@@antoino3salinas531 wait, youre telling me you never defeated a water type using a fire type? Or a flying type vs electric? Or a grass vs fire? Are you even a trainer?
@@filthyweeabootrash1995 1. This series is a direct sequel to the sun and moon series. 2. There are no alternate universes in the main anime. Mega evolution still exists.
Nikos Ziogas yeah, if this was actual Pokémon games (which is all about type advantages and disadvantages) Charizard would be out by now. Just how high of a level are these Pokémon anyway?
What about Charizard's Thunder Punch? It would have obliterated Gyarados if this was game logic, especially considering that a Charizard has higher base Speed than a Gyarados.
Calculating the odds, assuming we’re taking their level from the most recent titles they’ve appeared in (Lance appeared in Let’s go with a lv64 Gyarados, and Leon appeared in SS with a lv65 Charizard) with no EVs or impacting nature’s, Gyarados’s attack would only have a rough 50% chance of KOing Charizard, meaning while he would take high amounts of damage, he may not have died and the luck was in Leon’s favour. And Gyarados took quite a bit to prepare the next attack meaning the Charizard had time to Roost. And charizard did manage to land two thunder punches throughout the fight, which is a guaranteed 2HKO against Gyarados. So no, it’s not plot armor, it just so happened that luck was on Leon’s side.
@@yoboiaizen7731 u also fail to realize charizard's base speed is higher than gyarados, plus stone edge has piss poor accuracy and at best 8 chances of use, thunder punch has far more at max and has 100% accuracy on top of the paralysis chance
@@yoboiaizen7731 there's also max lightning to consider if dynamaxing is factored in which hits even harder,at a base power of 130 and is a guaranteed paralysis should gyarados survive and thats a very big if
And a stupid monke killed half her team including the gourgiest which defeated Lance's second ace , the same poke that dominated Leon's Charizard in its base form 🤣. Journeys will always be journeys.
@@amarnathg2998 Exactly 😂😂. Thank God, I finally found a Pokefan with Brains. Literally In a 2V2 battle Lance is definitely the Strongest. Thanks to his Gyarados and his Ace Dragonite. Pokemon Journeys is really inconsistent. Its even worse than Rock-Paper-Scissor 🤣🤣.
Sai Hardik tbh I don’t think so mega gyradose is just gyradose with spiky fins and it wold be just ripping off XY I’d rather the new anime do gen 8 things so it’s more it’s own thing
Murtajiz Mehdi the in game changes like the stat gain and gaining mold breaker don’t really apply in the anime only type change and the fact that it’s now stronger really
@@Neevkl_7 megas where cool, dinamax and gigantamax aren't as great, i would say just making a pokemon giant and giving him weaker z-moves on all slots is actually bad, also the only stat that goes up is hp, most of the pokemons that do gigantamax don't even change way less than an mega evolution, also they are just big verssions.
Leon was champion for 10+ years in his region. He's also more experienced in dynamax battles. Had this battle taken place without dynamax I'm sure lance would've put up a better fight. Leon has Pokemon better than charizard though so idk who would've won
ninjaruss well in the timeline doesn’t gen 2 take place before Galar so there fore Lance would be more experienced. I also don’t understand why lance didn’t use his dragonite
@@popnpets8022 not really. In the anime ash is still young. Leon would've been champion around when ash was born and he was undefeated throughout his champion career. That would be like ash becoming champion when he was 10 and not losing a match for another 10 years. Leon is much older now and he became champion of that league when he was younger than ash is now
@@popnpets8022 because not much time has passed since ash started his journey. Leon is like in his 20s. He was already champion in his region long before ash even started in kanto. It doesn't seem like ash ages because it really doesn't take him that long to go through a region. The longest journey for him I believe was kanto but after that he went through the others pretty quick. He may spend like a few months in each at the most. The Orange islands probably only lasted a few weeks. All of alola was just like a summer vacation for ash
Leon may be unbeatable in his own region, but lance should've won. He's basically the leon of kanto, except more experienced. All this setting aside type advantage...
@@oidorite357 yeah, and Brock said that water is weak to fire once And Pikachu managed to use thunder attacks against Geodude and Onyx with no problems at all, so types doesn't seem to matter much
It looks cool, but its g max move is objectively worse than than the regular max move for fire type moves. Creating sunlight is better because it strengthens its fire moves and weakens water moves.
The shusher i think its medium since red is also a protagonist and has his own series called pokemon origins and red charizard can easily beat ashes charizard
Majoras arbok u see ashs charizard cant mega evolve whilst reds charizard can mega evolve plus when reds charizard mega evolves it gains a stat boost so its technically stronger and the anime is kinda not actually correct like how can a pikachu deal damage to a onix?
I think it’s getting really tiring the whole situation with Charizard. Beating Greninja at the finals and now Gyarados. There are other Pokémon as well who deserve to be on the spotlight way more than Charizard. Okay, I get it that fans love it but this is getting too far.
@@teamcori pokken tournament sceptile loops were a thing that definitely existed. As well as lucario 40% combo's from an anti air. God i miss that game.
Anyone who says this man is wrong clearly has a screw loose and no amount of 9 year old retaliation will change the fact that this is what the overwhelming majority of pokemon fans would want (if implemented correctly. Make no mistake this would be insanely difficult)
Gyarados moveset be like: -Aqua Tail -Dragon Dance -Ice Fang -Rock thing? -Hyper Beam Charizard be like -Flamethrower -Fire spin? -Air Cutter/Air slash? - Electric Thingie? honestly i have no idea Leon is way too smug but apparently hes strong enough to not give a living sh*t Gyarados should probably have won
Charizard had thunder punch, gyarados’ rock thing was just hitting the ground with his tail to counter Charizard’ s attack since he was immobilized by the hyper beam
@@eyep4733 um so why does pokemon logic apply there and like nowhere else? charizard was hit by dragon dance aqua tail, ice fang, and max geyser edit: oh and maybe max quake(?)
Nothing compares with Pikachu losing to the level 5 snivy.... Nothing. Would've been a cool moment to compare Pikachu's strength against a type disadvantage and compare ash to a beginner trainer. Should've been a teachable moment for that little guy. Instead his snivy merks Pikachu with a leaf storm. A level 5 snivy... With leaf storm. Against a battle hardened pika... Yea worst offender ever
@@abdullahyousafi4920 it's so fucking annoying we knew Lance for years he was such a badass added with Pokemon generations. The fucking Leon Walt's in we barely know him and destroys him with overrated dynamax Charizard. Defeating him with his plot armor tier shit.
Well, it's just Charizard is overrated so he just wins all battles, it can even be a legendary, he just wins it all, I'm not saying charizard is strong but... yeah
Idk how lance lost max gaurd literally blocked the max wildfire then suddenly i guess gigantamax pokemon can attack twice OH YEAH THEY CANT ONLY RAID POKEMON CAN DO SO
Everyone’s being so buthurt about this, but they choose to ignore the fact that Ash’s greninja won against sceptile, but lost to charizard. Or that pikachu’s thunderbolt effected onix at all. lol
If Gyarados only has given such a close fight and that too Lace caught it around 1 year then think what type of a beast would Lance's Dragonite be who he has been training for years and is also his Ace. Dragonite Vs Charizard would be the best match in Pokemon and Lance's Dragonite would have defeated Leon's Charizard for sure in base form and While Gigantamaxed/Dynamaxed, it could go either way.
@@elementmanexe8389, umm, what? Canceled out? And how should it work? I mean, some water had already been released and it just disappeared when a lightning hit Gyarados. Electricity was not even used against a water attack, but against Gyarados...
@@doctoreleven1642 what I mean is, when gyarados got hit with max lightning, it forced it to stop it's attack due to the pain, forcing it to stop releasing pressure on the water and shortening the attack. But in all honesty this is just a guess and if I watch the episode to find something different then I'll let you know
So why is Lance not wearing a uniform or why is Leon still wearing his? Why did Lance lose to new Leon? I could understand a past gym leader or champion of the "anime" but a legit champion like Lance? That's disrespectful.
That was probably one of the best battles in the anime. The two Pokemon both resisted to a OHKO of their target (Aqua Tail+Dragon Dance for Charizard and Dynabolt+Thunderpunch for Gyarados) showing how strong they are compared to other examples of their species. Exactly two "Pokemon champions". In addition Hyper Beam on Gyarados was motivated due to the Dynamove which reduces speed. The only thing I personally would have changed is the final. I mean, if Gyarados can take a Thunderpunch... is ok. But a Dynabolt is enough to finish him, the Gigamove was totally uneccesary in this battle.
It’s so annoying how the fanbase keeps complaining all the time. I think this battle was awesome, and it does make sense that Charizard didn’t get one shotted by Gyarados because Leon obviously trained it really well. They were trying to prove that Leon is the strongest of them all and truly deserves his unbeatable title.
um dude u do realize leon's gmax zard would easily stomp alain's? sure mega evolution has stats, but leon's gmax zard has so much more than stats, airslash for the speed buff in gmax, then there's max wyrmwind which alain's mega zard x is weak to and it would lower his stats, then there's gmax wildfire to cause a damage over time effect on zard, plus he could always whip out a max guard if need be to deal with a thunderpunch............ all in all the answer is beyond obvious: gmax zard > mega zard x hands down
@@ManpreetSingh-xd1zk ashs charizard has always been his strongest. Greninja at best is #2 or 3. Though id put it at 3 since, unlike charizard and sceptile, greninja needs to "evolve" in a sense in order to win against other pokemon
@@donaldmerrian4044 greninja still can't win ash charizard after bond evolution. Because ash charizard is more powerful than a mega charizard x. And greninja can't beat mega charizard x after bond evolution. And if ash charizard mega evolves greninja has nothing to do .
Jesus when the hell is he gonna use his 5 most powerful mons and I say 5 because he obviously gonna use the og pikachu and these are the moms I want him to use charizard,greninja( if he finish helping zygarde),sceptile,snorlax and noivern(maybe)
@@CorvinMarsh Beginning with Johto, Ash has a policy of "starting fresh" with each new region he travels to and leaving the Pokemon he got during his previous adventures - with the obvious exception of Pikachu - at Professor Oak's lab. It makes no sense given his desire to be a champion, but it's moreso to show off the new Pokemon of each generation.
Princess serena This is the anime. Of course it will live a boosted aqua tail. If the anime was like the games, the champions wouldn’t be as strong as they are and the entire anime would be boring AF.
I get they need to push dynamaxing out there to get it half as popular as mega evolution. But really? Charizard would never get an easy win over gyarados.
Itachi Uchiha I just watched that today actually after randomly remembering it on my way home from work.. Still the biggest load of bs they ever pulled off. 😂
0/10
Lance didn't use *Full Restore.*
Pokémon golder
@@njrhea1881 the rule of a champion
You dont get to be champion of the pokemon league without knowing how to spam full restore
What u mean
I feel like Pokémon has decided to ignore even their own logic now
How does a water type get defeated with a fire type and the carmander is weaker then a (forgot name)
@@antoino3salinas531 cause logic isn't real In anime
Lol sounds like any anime thats been on for a long time.
@@antoino3salinas531 wait, youre telling me you never defeated a water type using a fire type? Or a flying type vs electric? Or a grass vs fire? Are you even a trainer?
@@thisissnake-_-6874 last time I seen charzar was a fire type while the other one I cant remember its name was a water / dragon
I love charizard but bringing oldskool OG's like lance to lose against new trainers not cool
Leon was undefeated. How did you think he would lose
I was just thinking the same thing and we all know gyarados is stronger than charizard
:(
Shahrukh Shaikh true
Lol Leon is the undefeated champion.
I kinda expected lance to mega evolve his gyrados instead of dynamaxing.
soul eater sun Remember, Mega Evolutions nor Z-Moves exist in this "timeline"
@@filthyweeabootrash1995 in the games not the anime
@@filthyweeabootrash1995 z moves are only in alola
@@filthyweeabootrash1995 that's just a theory, they very well could, the items just aren't found in galar
@@filthyweeabootrash1995
1. This series is a direct sequel to the sun and moon series.
2. There are no alternate universes in the main anime. Mega evolution still exists.
That plot armor that charizard gets its so irritating. I mean an aqua tail with a dragon dance should be enough
Nikos Ziogas yeah, if this was actual Pokémon games (which is all about type advantages and disadvantages) Charizard would be out by now. Just how high of a level are these Pokémon anyway?
@@IIPM6500 they are both champions and their pokemon are 50-70(through my experience a 75 blastoise one hit ko me 100 charizard with a hydro pump)
What about Charizard's Thunder Punch? It would have obliterated Gyarados if this was game logic, especially considering that a Charizard has higher base Speed than a Gyarados.
@@EzequielGI gmax charizard is a special attacker and gyarados was x2 speed from d dance
Calculating the odds, assuming we’re taking their level from the most recent titles they’ve appeared in (Lance appeared in Let’s go with a lv64 Gyarados, and Leon appeared in SS with a lv65 Charizard) with no EVs or impacting nature’s, Gyarados’s attack would only have a rough 50% chance of KOing Charizard, meaning while he would take high amounts of damage, he may not have died and the luck was in Leon’s favour. And Gyarados took quite a bit to prepare the next attack meaning the Charizard had time to Roost. And charizard did manage to land two thunder punches throughout the fight, which is a guaranteed 2HKO against Gyarados. So no, it’s not plot armor, it just so happened that luck was on Leon’s side.
I guess the Galar Police wouldn’t let him use Dragonite
But ash has one?
Lmao what's a dragoninte?
@@VoltLuke1 anime is anime
Or its becouse they didnt want to do charizard vs dragonite AGAIN!
thagumaster1 dragonite is a gen 1 pokemon that is Lance’s main pokemon in every game, but was cut from swsh
In reality, there's no way a well trained Gyaradoes would lose against a Charizard.
U know its an anime right?
2 words pal: thunder punch
@@ARCEUS493ZELDA charizard's phys attack quite suck, Gyarados can learn stone edge
@@yoboiaizen7731 u also fail to realize charizard's base speed is higher than gyarados, plus stone edge has piss poor accuracy and at best 8 chances of use, thunder punch has far more at max and has 100% accuracy on top of the paralysis chance
@@yoboiaizen7731 there's also max lightning to consider if dynamaxing is factored in which hits even harder,at a base power of 130 and is a guaranteed paralysis should gyarados survive and thats a very big if
Can't Believe Lance's Gyarrados lost to Diantha's Gourgeist. He really dominated Leon's Charizard in base.
And a stupid monke killed half her team including the gourgiest which defeated Lance's second ace , the same poke that dominated Leon's Charizard in its base form 🤣. Journeys will always be journeys.
@@amarnathg2998 Exactly 😂😂. Thank God, I finally found a Pokefan with Brains. Literally In a 2V2 battle Lance is definitely the Strongest. Thanks to his Gyarados and his Ace Dragonite. Pokemon Journeys is really inconsistent. Its even worse than Rock-Paper-Scissor 🤣🤣.
@@amarnathg2998 na bro. Leons charizars was not even tired. It could still take out 3 more of lances pokemon easy
@@amarnathg2998 also your wrong lance dynamaxed first not leon. Leon did not need to dynamax to win in base
Nah should have been a G Max vs Mega Evolution battle would have been sick
Leviathan GamerHD ye LoL
But that's illegal
@@ac42o77 *_NOT._*
BRUH THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE
Dynamaxed Mega Gyarados vs GMax Charizard. This would have been epic.
Never take water types against Charizard I repeat Never
Ash and his Greninja: First time?
@@chaos_blue1089 I know that's why I said 😂
@@chaos_blue1089 Gary and Blastoise:???
ehh I wasn't happy about that either but charizard had thunder punch so it kinda evens out.
what if....... *kyogre* -H E H E H E-
When mega evolutions were a thing this fight would be 1000X times better
Sai Hardik tbh I don’t think so mega gyradose is just gyradose with spiky fins and it wold be just ripping off XY I’d rather the new anime do gen 8 things so it’s more it’s own thing
Neevkl _7 it also turns into a 640 base stat and gains the dark type (making it only 2x weak to electric). Mega Gyarados is a big threat
Murtajiz Mehdi the in game changes like the stat gain and gaining mold breaker don’t really apply in the anime only type change and the fact that it’s now stronger really
So fking true megas where da bomb
@@Neevkl_7 megas where cool, dinamax and gigantamax aren't as great, i would say just making a pokemon giant and giving him weaker z-moves on all slots is actually bad, also the only stat that goes up is hp, most of the pokemons that do gigantamax don't even change way less than an mega evolution, also they are just big verssions.
They have Aegislash use king shield on the arena to protect the audience lol
That's actually pretty smart.
@@cavetr0ll799 yeah
The pokemon league officials must've been getting a lot of complaints ever since ash vs paul and ash vs kukui
The game could never
U watch pokemon? The atack all pokemon not have efecct in human, dont my asked why, i realized a long time ago
G-Max Charizard ability: Plot Armor
Decrease the power of supper effective moves by 80% and bends pokemon logic
This is wack. Lance has been a champ way longer, has type advantage, and should have mega evolved.
Leon was champion for 10+ years in his region. He's also more experienced in dynamax battles. Had this battle taken place without dynamax I'm sure lance would've put up a better fight. Leon has Pokemon better than charizard though so idk who would've won
ninjaruss well in the timeline doesn’t gen 2 take place before Galar so there fore Lance would be more experienced. I also don’t understand why lance didn’t use his dragonite
@@popnpets8022 not really. In the anime ash is still young. Leon would've been champion around when ash was born and he was undefeated throughout his champion career. That would be like ash becoming champion when he was 10 and not losing a match for another 10 years. Leon is much older now and he became champion of that league when he was younger than ash is now
ninjaruss I’m just confused why Leon aged and ash hasn’t?
@@popnpets8022 because not much time has passed since ash started his journey. Leon is like in his 20s. He was already champion in his region long before ash even started in kanto.
It doesn't seem like ash ages because it really doesn't take him that long to go through a region. The longest journey for him I believe was kanto but after that he went through the others pretty quick. He may spend like a few months in each at the most. The Orange islands probably only lasted a few weeks. All of alola was just like a summer vacation for ash
Leon may be unbeatable in his own region, but lance should've won. He's basically the leon of kanto, except more experienced. All this setting aside type advantage...
Speaking of type advantages, remember when in the kalos league Ash Greninia beat mega Sceptile, but lost to Mega charizard?
@@oidorite357 yeah, and Brock said that water is weak to fire once
And Pikachu managed to use thunder attacks against Geodude and Onyx with no problems at all, so types doesn't seem to matter much
You mean johto?
I mean charizard new thunderbolt so yeah 4x effective, cause Charizard can learn thunderbolt for some reason ig, makes sense.
@@HanTian777 Thunder Punch*
Even though I feel Charizard is awfully overrated, its Gigantamax evolution is beast
Just so you know g-max is not an evolution but rather its a form
I really support you
I was lucky enough to encounter one in the sword & shield game after 2 hours of searching for a charizard in a den. Best pokemon in the game!
@@key4duty but dud you can just get one in hops house lmao
It looks cool, but its g max move is objectively worse than than the regular max move for fire type moves. Creating sunlight is better because it strengthens its fire moves and weakens water moves.
Plot Twist
Leon is on his final Pokemon Charizard
Lance always used Gyarados as his lead Pokemon. Still 5 more 😂
Sadly not, Gyarados was Lance’s final
@@theworthysoul I'm referencing the games of Gen 1 and 2 he always lead Gyarados.
In Gen1&2, Lance's Gyarados is super sick. I mean you'll end up 3remaining p'mons after batlling Gyarados hahaha
I love the shiny effect when Gyarados was released. I'm surprised that they even added it.
*_NOT._*
Me too, it’s a nice little touch. They kind of did that with Ash’s shiny Noctowl, it had sparkles when it came out of the pokeball.
They've always done that
@@hellointernet4467 Hello, asshat
Why they added it w ashs noctowl
Everyone's using a charizard except our hero ash.
And he has one of the strongest in the series.....
The shusher i think its medium since red is also a protagonist and has his own series called pokemon origins and red charizard can easily beat ashes charizard
rahil ahmed How? Ash’s Charizard has far better feats and Origins comes from a weaker canon
Majoras arbok u see ashs charizard cant mega evolve whilst reds charizard can mega evolve plus when reds charizard mega evolves it gains a stat boost so its technically stronger and the anime is kinda not actually correct like how can a pikachu deal damage to a onix?
Yeah....
I think it’s getting really tiring the whole situation with Charizard. Beating Greninja at the finals and now Gyarados. There are other Pokémon as well who deserve to be on the spotlight way more than Charizard. Okay, I get it that fans love it but this is getting too far.
It's just that charizard is op and you know it
Marco The Phoenix other starters are op too
@@diomarinakis i have not scene any other pokemon beat a charizard y nor charizard x in the games.
@@diomarinakis Ik they are but the only other pokemon which is op is greninja and he got beaten by charizard x and greninja was in ash greninja so...
You can say that about Pikachu as well
Lance should have used Dragonite
I thougt he Will do it
No, because dragonite isnt in this timeline (i think)
@@theroitero2234 do your research. Lance does have a Dragonite and this is the same timeline as past seasons.
@@ElectroBlastLuigi ok sorry🙏
Dragonite isn't legal in Galar.
Imagine Pokemon battles being that interactive in main titles... not just klick a button and lazy animations.
Pokken tournament dx
Get over yourself
@@teamcori pokken tournament sceptile loops were a thing that definitely existed. As well as lucario 40% combo's from an anti air. God i miss that game.
Would be terrible.
Anyone who says this man is wrong clearly has a screw loose and no amount of 9 year old retaliation will change the fact that this is what the overwhelming majority of pokemon fans would want (if implemented correctly. Make no mistake this would be insanely difficult)
Me one-shotting Leon's Charizard with Hydro Cannon
Don't think you could one shot it. Didn't it have Sturdy or something?
@@jesusburgess6252 sturdy on charizard? Are you drunk?
@@lollopollqo2240 Lol all I know is that it survived somehow after an attack that should have been a 1 hit KO in my game. Focus Sash maybe?
Meex Overgrowth on a fire type ehhhh
@@jesusburgess6252 I'm fairly certain NPCs can't have non-berry items.
The only thing that’s cool about this is that they canonically kept Lance as the trainer of the red Gyarados that’s legit it
What. That dragon dance plus aqua tail would of one shoted Charizard
Tidus Yang not if Lvl 100, also shiny doesn’t have good iv
You forgot that anime dont follow the games rules xD
@@ItaGoric true got a 39% shiny swinub yesterday
@@ItaGoric You don't know how shiny work, do ya? Plenty of perfect iv shiny. Not hard to acquire.
Andres Gomez oh right I forgot some people use hacks
Gyarados moveset be like:
-Aqua Tail
-Dragon Dance
-Ice Fang
-Rock thing?
-Hyper Beam
Charizard be like
-Flamethrower
-Fire spin?
-Air Cutter/Air slash?
- Electric Thingie?
honestly i have no idea Leon is way too smug but apparently hes strong enough to not give a living sh*t Gyarados should probably have won
Charizard had thunder punch, gyarados’ rock thing was just hitting the ground with his tail to counter Charizard’ s attack since he was immobilized by the hyper beam
Wild charge?
Gyrados had the advantage with 5 moves
@@eyep4733 um so why does pokemon logic apply there and like nowhere else? charizard was hit by dragon dance aqua tail, ice fang, and max geyser
edit: oh and maybe max quake(?)
Gyarados is 4x weak to electric.
Reading the comments, are people really still bitching that the anime doesn't follow game logic?
there will always be :')
Nothing compares with Pikachu losing to the level 5 snivy.... Nothing.
Would've been a cool moment to compare Pikachu's strength against a type disadvantage and compare ash to a beginner trainer. Should've been a teachable moment for that little guy. Instead his snivy merks Pikachu with a leaf storm. A level 5 snivy... With leaf storm. Against a battle hardened pika... Yea worst offender ever
@@Joah1990 dude get over it it's been like 15 years
Also in that situation Pikachu got severely nerfed by Zekrom
@@ThePokemonPrinceYT dude you get over it. I said this a year ago 😆
How did Lance lost with his Gyradose. He is a Champion.
So is Leon
@@abdullahyousafi4920 it's so fucking annoying we knew Lance for years he was such a badass added with Pokemon generations. The fucking Leon Walt's in we barely know him and destroys him with overrated dynamax Charizard. Defeating him with his plot armor tier shit.
How did lance lose*
If lance won it would ruin the whole arc of Leon being the "unbeatable champion"
Well, it's just Charizard is overrated so he just wins all battles, it can even be a legendary, he just wins it all, I'm not saying charizard is strong but... yeah
Everbody knows damnnn well Leon didn’t beat lance. If lance had his dragonite it would’ve been different story
They had to give Charizard a thunder punch. Such bullshit.
That's because they banned his dragonite from entering galar
@@nealfernandez522 thats different bs games,anime and these thingys are three different worlds
@@nealfernandez522 they banned Dragonite because of Lance. I am pretty sure about that.
@@blakemcwilliams9028 Didnt know having a type coverage move is BS. You probably did the same thing in the games too.
In my opinion gyarados deserved a gygamax form
He probably used max restore on charizard multiple times, we just did not notice.
Idk how lance lost max gaurd literally blocked the max wildfire then suddenly i guess gigantamax pokemon can attack twice OH YEAH THEY CANT ONLY RAID POKEMON CAN DO SO
Lance is a dirty hacker who had multiple underleveled Dragonite and taught his pokemon moves they can't learn. Karma's a bitch..
@@db9944 im in tears after what you just said
Something to remember, in anime there are no "turns".
@@akirandrake414 oh thats true
Lmao this is a dumb comment it's the anime not the game idiot there's no turns
Lance with a Dynamax band makes me hope we get something akin to the Pokemon World Tournament in the Isle of Armor
While it was cool to see the Red Gyarados again, I'm still wondering why the Dragon Master Lance didn't use his Dragonite.
Isnt in this region werid none told you
To have type advantage
The games should try going Action RPG one day
Thing is we all know lance would decimate with his dragons
And Cynthia or Steven will fuck him up
@@ashuradarklighter4822 then again this is the anime so lance is cool and strong and shit like that
@@ashuradarklighter4822 probably not lol, they tried to hint at cynthia vs lance in masters but no conclusion yet
This was an epic battle, Nice Amv :)
Everyone’s being so buthurt about this, but they choose to ignore the fact that Ash’s greninja won against sceptile, but lost to charizard. Or that pikachu’s thunderbolt effected onix at all. lol
Or thundershock my bad
What else can you expect from Greyninja fans
Can you make an amv for ash's fire starter pokemon and have it go through all the hardships they had to go through before becoming ash's pokemon
HoW dId YoU kNoW aBoUt TyPe AdVaNtAgEs?!
wait
If Gyarados only has given such a close fight and that too Lace caught it around 1 year then think what type of a beast would Lance's Dragonite be who he has been training for years and is also his Ace. Dragonite Vs Charizard would be the best match in Pokemon and Lance's Dragonite would have defeated Leon's Charizard for sure in base form and While Gigantamaxed/Dynamaxed, it could go either way.
Charizard: I'm imbencible
Types: You are weak too water...
Charizard: NO
Leon: "Screw the type advantages, I have Charizard!1!"
Lance: "..."
Well charizard also had thunder attacks
@@Sana0987.8, I know but why he ended battle with fire type attack? And why water attack from DGyarados didn't reach DCharizard?
@@doctoreleven1642 probably because gyarados got hit with lightning, causing it's attack to cancel out
@@elementmanexe8389, umm, what? Canceled out? And how should it work? I mean, some water had already been released and it just disappeared when a lightning hit Gyarados. Electricity was not even used against a water attack, but against Gyarados...
@@doctoreleven1642 what I mean is, when gyarados got hit with max lightning, it forced it to stop it's attack due to the pain, forcing it to stop releasing pressure on the water and shortening the attack. But in all honesty this is just a guess and if I watch the episode to find something different then I'll let you know
Para mi lance siempre sera el mejor entrenador. Desde mi primer juego que era elpokemon rojo mis equipos siempre han sido de dragones.
I’m seeing this fight pop all over UA-cam it’s blowing up
It was an amazing episode xd
I don't know why but I can't stop my laughing 😂🤣🤣 while watching this.
Lance had to use Dragonite not Gyrados..... god damn it
Drqgonite is not in the galar dex he probably was stopped at the airport
Could be... but we all know that Dragonite always kicks charizards ass in every ocasión
@@MontanaDX have you seen Ash's Charizard vs Iris' Dragonite?
@@Ray-wo1gw *_NOT._*
@@Ray-wo1gw *_SHUT THE FUCK UP._*
Deep down we all know Lance Gyrados is the real winner.
So why is Lance not wearing a uniform or why is Leon still wearing his?
Why did Lance lose to new Leon? I could understand a past gym leader or champion of the "anime" but a legit champion like Lance? That's disrespectful.
Leon is a legit champ too? What's your point
In reality there is no way lance would lose
Tawayne Walker this is reality. This is the anime lol
@@tra-guyd5209 lol
Guys I have a perfectly reasonable explanation why Lance didn’t win this fight...
It’s cause he didn’t use the power of *FULL RESTORESSSSS*
That was probably one of the best battles in the anime. The two Pokemon both resisted to a OHKO of their target (Aqua Tail+Dragon Dance for Charizard and Dynabolt+Thunderpunch for Gyarados) showing how strong they are compared to other examples of their species. Exactly two "Pokemon champions".
In addition Hyper Beam on Gyarados was motivated due to the Dynamove which reduces speed. The only thing I personally would have changed is the final. I mean, if Gyarados can take a Thunderpunch... is ok. But a Dynabolt is enough to finish him, the Gigamove was totally uneccesary in this battle.
It’s so annoying how the fanbase keeps complaining all the time. I think this battle was awesome, and it does make sense that Charizard didn’t get one shotted by Gyarados because Leon obviously trained it really well. They were trying to prove that Leon is the strongest of them all and truly deserves his unbeatable title.
Greyninja fans bro. They have started since he lost to Mega Charizard X.
Bruh this was the worst battle ever
Alain's Charizard is strongest Charizard of Pokemon series.
His Charizard can finish garidos just one thunder punch.
Alain's Charizard would have gone down by just a Hyper Beam by this Gyarados. Leon's Charizard is the strongest Charizard of all of them.
@@Andrej-f7c
Alan is Elite 4 level at best
Leon is the world champion
Leon would defeat Alan
um dude u do realize leon's gmax zard would easily stomp alain's? sure mega evolution has stats, but leon's gmax zard has so much more than stats, airslash for the speed buff in gmax, then there's max wyrmwind which alain's mega zard x is weak to and it would lower his stats, then there's gmax wildfire to cause a damage over time effect on zard, plus he could always whip out a max guard if need be to deal with a thunderpunch............ all in all the answer is beyond obvious: gmax zard > mega zard x hands down
Red would overlevel the shit outta both of them
@@ARCEUS493ZELDA Leon's Charizard doesn't need Gigantamax to beat Alain's Charizard. He can do it in it's normal form.
I would've liked to see Lance's Dragonite against Leon's Charizard lol
Leon would lose so hard.
Well dragonite isnt in this region and is none listening to "undefeated champion" think of what that means
@@elechapa7970 dude I know I just said I would've liked to see his Dragonite in action because it's literally like his best Pokemon
@@alexalvarado2156 yeah mb I'm trying to be like my friends "Smart" or as old people say party pooper ._.
I hate _Gigantamax_ evolution 😕
Same bro
It kinda makes sense that Leon would win a Gigantimax Battle against Lance who’s presumably never played with Gigantimax mons
And uh not to mention he’s the darn CHAMPION FOR GODS SAKE! Lol
Maybe that Charizard's level is above 90 🤔
Although I find this absurd but I’m so focused on the song the most XD
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If Lance use his dragonite instead I'm sure he would beat leons Charizard.
Yeah if Gyarados which he barely trained for a year has given so tough competition then think what would much more trained Dragonite would have done
Cmon guys we can all agree that lance would have won if he didn't do that flex XD.
MegaEvolution,Z-Moves were all cool but these oversized pokemons are something very odd. 😑
Seems creators are going out of ideas. 🙄
I love charizard, but lance should have won. Bringing a powerful OG AND Having him lose to this lady boy is disrespectful. Smh
Gyarados should have won.
That is the awesome giantamax pokemon battle I ever seen
Y el ganador es el personaje de moda
British aircraft facing Japanese destroyer during Operation Meridian, on 24 January 1945, colorized.
I'm glad they're starting to make Charizard the face of Pokemon instead of Pikachu I see Charizard in everything now
When fire spin hits harder than aqua tail with dd
YEAH !
Saludos desde... *ESPAÑA !!!*
Where is original video plz I need to see this without music
Nice AMV btw xD
Ok, I think I speak for all pokemon fans on this one. The fact that Lance's Gyrados didn't absolutely murder Charizard is bullshit.
I thought that ash would bring his charizard back for this season.
He Will Win The Champion Ship If Brings His Charizard Back cos after greninja's Releasing Ash's Charizard Is the Most Powerful Pokémon Of Ash
@@ManpreetSingh-xd1zk ashs charizard has always been his strongest. Greninja at best is #2 or 3. Though id put it at 3 since, unlike charizard and sceptile, greninja needs to "evolve" in a sense in order to win against other pokemon
@@donaldmerrian4044 greninja still can't win ash charizard after bond evolution. Because ash charizard is more powerful than a mega charizard x. And greninja can't beat mega charizard x after bond evolution. And if ash charizard mega evolves greninja has nothing to do .
Jesus when the hell is he gonna use his 5 most powerful mons and I say 5 because he obviously gonna use the og pikachu and these are the moms I want him to use charizard,greninja( if he finish helping zygarde),sceptile,snorlax and noivern(maybe)
@@CorvinMarsh Beginning with Johto, Ash has a policy of "starting fresh" with each new region he travels to and leaving the Pokemon he got during his previous adventures - with the obvious exception of Pikachu - at Professor Oak's lab.
It makes no sense given his desire to be a champion, but it's moreso to show off the new Pokemon of each generation.
This is just dumb Leon is the weakest of all League Masters Lance should've won easily
Correction undefeated champion....
@@elechapa7970 every league masters are undefeated before we beat their ass ingame. But here Lance should've won
Impressive 🎶
pokemon is WACK now.. This shit is just rediculous.. Oh how i miss '95..
Can you make an amv Ash vs all the kalos gym leaders
Already made here: ua-cam.com/video/T1G7kYHu26M/v-deo.html
Dragon dance aqua tail bam sounded over with already but some how he out lived it
Princess serena This is the anime. Of course it will live a boosted aqua tail. If the anime was like the games, the champions wouldn’t be as strong as they are and the entire anime would be boring AF.
In fire red when I caught lance this is what went on in my head
You caught Lance?
XD
@@stardustamvs Gotcha! Lance was caught!
I get they need to push dynamaxing out there to get it half as popular as mega evolution. But really? Charizard would never get an easy win over gyarados.
Are we all going to ignore that fire blast that hit the crowd and in reality killed a bunch of fans
Da Polarbear there was kings shield so no one gets hury
Lance is way more iconic. Besides it being unrealistic, it just made me mad at Leon xD Lance and Cynthia are the coolest champions for me.
Manuel Traut wym unrealistic I beat lance with blastiose
Lance: serious AF
Leon: Yeah have you seen the news?
I want a world championship where z move, mega evolotion and dimax every thing will be used.and ash will also get a mega stone.
What if Wailord has a Gigantamax form?
He would jsut be more bigger then he already is or she
@@elechapa7970Yeah, you're right. I wanna see a trainer use it in its gigantamax form. lol
OK
Me:how the f*** did Leon beat a water type with fire
Because Leon's Charizard had Electric attacks. Gyrados is 4x weak to Electric. Charizard also has a much higher Sp Atk and Speed stat than Gyrados.
Aki B you clearly never watched the anime if this suprises you
Lancé tenía que tener dragonite
si verdad
Completamente deacuerdo
WHO DOES THIS MAN THINK HE IS USING CHARIZARD AGAINST GYRADOS... whatever it worked I guess lmao
Is it mean Mega is useless anymore
two BEASTS (ĒPÏČ BÅŤȚŁĒ )🤟
So currently, Lance is the 2nd Strongest Trainer. I think Tobias and Brandon haven't participated yet and Alain will come come later.
They didn’t have cynthia in the anime, because everyone knew the outcome...
Can anyone send me a link to this episode
www15.gogoanime.io/pokemon-2019-episode-12
Charizard learn some kind of electrical attack on Galar region? That extrange bolt tackle was unexpected
Notice how the trainers don't stand in the middle of the battling pokemon, unlike the actual game.
Gigantamax Charizard X
I would have liked to see mega gyarados vs giga charizard, missed opportunity
I wish lance used his dragonite instead of gyardos.
Before anyone starts trying to be a smart aas and tell us this can’t happen in reality,remember that pikachu once used thunder on it self for armor
Itachi Uchiha I just watched that today actually after randomly remembering it on my way home from work.. Still the biggest load of bs they ever pulled off. 😂