I'm only five feet tall and need a block too. I used to be the exercise rider of Kansas City Chief's mascot Warpaint. Now THAT horse would have been competitive in this but any relay rider would have to be able to jump to the top of the Empire State building as Warpaint was a good 16.3 hands. Also, a good seat (knee grip, hand hold on the mane) since Warpaint's #1 objective was to unseat his rider. I think Warpaint was used in extreme Indian sport because he was said to be one of the fastest in tribal races. I never ran or galloped him to find out as Warpaint also could buck almost hard enough to put his rider in orbit. I heard War Paint was 37 years old when he passed on. Extraordinary age for any horse.
Its not very often you see people who can understand that a game is a game, it's a contest that's meant to be fun and challenging for those involved. Lady luck is a fickle mistress but we love her all the same.
And both men did a great job. Loved how he didn't try to over push or become aggressive with the horses because of the sex back. Fantastic people so cool to see
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The first time I ever saw Indian Relay, was 1984 at the Kalispell Fairgrounds. I was 12. It was one of the most breathtaking things I ever saw. It was the afternoon before the fair opened...and they were just practicing.
How the hell can they call Curling an Olympic sport, and not see how difficult this is? Unbelievable how dedicated that young man was, to get slammed by a 1,000 lb horse, and still keep going... Unreal. Absolutely no losers, unbelievable really.
@@alphahale7668 you should see the drunken fights either with team rivals or teammates who hate each other hahaha!! The cameras dont show everything on televised events
Natives did use bits or rawhide or rope war bridles. The horse was brought from Europe remember, with it came the bit or the native adaptation known as the war bridle. Look at all the old pictures you can find and you will see both. The most vocal experts are generally always self proclaimed experts with no knowledge or experience to go along with their expertise. They know exactly how things should be for everyone else, but have no concessions (and every excuse) for themselves and how they live; very hypocritical. They know what real horsemanship looks like since they generally all have pets and think horses are the same animals as dogs.
jks6557 while this is true, leather and rope are miles apart than hard metal with ridiculously long shanks. If this is about culture why don’t they use those methods? Also I’m a barn manager of a working draft barn so I’m much more aware than the average bear.
Rawhide and rope war bridles around the lower jaw can be every bit as brutal as any bit; as can hackamores. It really is less about the bridle and more about the hands and feel of the rider. I can ride any of my finished horses with any bridle or without any bridle or neck rope. Turn, stop, backup, spin all on feel. I'm sure as a draft manager there have been plenty of times you have pulled on lines at what, to the untrained eye, would be the point of disapproval. Especially to the commonly found unexperienced horse experts. I'm not saying these folks don't have any room for improvement, but the point of my comment is that horsemanship is something everyone has to develop and should always be developing. Let's not point fingers at people who are actively trying to get better. Horses are very forgiving and understanding with us and we should emulate the same with each other.
Oh man I love how the rein is loose!!! I watch "equestrian" events and I'm ALways, lighten up on the rein! Why do you hve to make the rein so short/tight?? No one can say anything as the young man galloped with no rein. It is an honour to be able to ride like that. He warned up to you in the corral. I think the young man and he bonded in the corral. A horse is an herd animal. It will always run to take the lead no matter how far behind - if he can. OUCH! 😖😓 Working with horses will always keep youth out of trouble, teaching the kids the basics every life needs in the universe - a higher level of awareness ❣ God bless you
You worry about the reigns of the bridles being to short in other horse sports but don’t see the way the horses in this video are being hit with literal clubs? How blind can you be. Working with horses is great that’s true, but not in this way. We have to stop any kind of horse racing.
Plot twist, equestrians sometimes need to **gasp** communicate with their horse and, thus, hold contact in the bridle. It's all fine and dandy to let a horse go without control when he's already galloping and can pretty much only go forward but trying doing a dressage test on most warmbloods, a hunter round or any other sport that requires more than fear and general forward energy and you'll find that, again **gasp** you need to communicate. At least you aren't a bitless fanatic with a hatred for bits, right...? Right?
Also, a horse won't always run to the top of the herd. It can't do that because there's a system. The leader is upfront and the other horses have to respect that. They will follow eachother, not race eachother. They'll race eachother when they're playing.
This makes me want to go out and ride so bad. Seeing them put this work into their horses and being so confident up there... just inspiring. Bless the Indigenous Peoples
Julia Youngriver You know NOTHING about horses, right? They have PANIC in such a "game". They fear about their life, when they run that fast (many horses are dying due to a heart attack and breaking their legs, but it gets covered and ignored. You can watch videos of that, it's not an exception) Only people stuck in the 19th century doesn't believe in those research studies and a good human mind. It's just to entertain us humans. Like bullfights. Just more beautiful for the watchers.
@@karolynnolson3359 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Where do you think this took place?????? You do realize that Native Americans, including The Siksaka Nation, are in North America....right????? Lmfao!!
Honestly there are definitally things that i dont like. This is still racing. But the lack of money hungry industry is definitally better, they dont use saddles so its all u and they cant hide devices under em either. most of the riders seem to be using ropes as whips, which might seem bad but try hitting urself with a stick and then a rope. The softer the whip, the bigger the sound and lesser the impact. Ropes might sting but they dont hurt. Also the horses' legs are wrapped, which if done right can help a lot. They are also running on dirt, not grass. Thats also a plus point cause there's a much smaller chance for little holes to appear if they are keeping it under good care. (Which they seem to, judging by the lack of greens and stones). Theres also a clear horsemanship involved and the horses while young and kinda bony, seem to be able to stand still between rounds. Or as still as a young horse can. The riders also dont hold onto their mouths, even if they do have a bit. So, not a fan but its a step from racing.
I agree except for your point of "ropes might sting but they dont hurt". If it stings it hurts. Horses have very sensitive skin so really any whipping action(with a crop, your hand, rope, etc.) is going to hurt them. If horses can feel a tiny fly land on them with their skin, they can definitely feel strap of leather slapping them.
@Gi Gi Must agree, would help if they'd lose the whips and have softer or no bits. Im not sure if those whips actually do something, cause whupping them so much should desensitize them tremendously
Wonderful film. The riders are AMAZING. I do wish they would rein in their crop/whip/quirt use. One guy had what looked like a billy club? I'm hoping it was just a large homemade crop. There is just no need to beat the horses like that and doesn't make them go faster after the first hit or so, they stop responding if they get no relief.
Beautiful. Let’s not lose sight of how the people in this film are as beautiful and noble as the horses. Best of luck to that young man and his people.
@@gerrycoleman7290 western saddles were first designed by the vaqueros in Mexico for roping the saddle horn was invented for that very purpose horses were ridden bareback long before any saddle was invented Greeks-romans had no saddles
It's really a pitty. It would be a pretty cool sport without these whips, but apparently the egos of the riders and their bloodlust to win is higher than everything else. I guess only high penalties could even this out...
Years ago, I had a grulla Quarter Horse that was a great grandson of King P-234. I ran barrels, poles, and team penned on him. I still have a long list of things I wish we could have done together. He was a once in a lifetime horse.
Considering Man O War is one of the leading sires of all time, he is actually in quite a few bloodlines! I ride a horse for my aunt who has Man o War And War admiral.
This is fantastic! So proud of the riders. Indian relays are becoming so popular and to think they have always been a part of our culture. Congratulations on winning the award!
I think everyone involved loves their horses and want the best for the horses, but those really harsh bits and whipping habits really speak against them.
@@lizziesangi1602 Use/presence of the crop/leather in the race entirely says otherwise about them 'being in their element'. See 8:45 . It's all throughout the race the riders using the crop/whip if you pay attention. As for the reins, see 9:44 . I get they have to get the horse to stop but you can see how much force they are putting being the bit to get the horse to stop after hitting them with the whip to push them faster. The horse's head comes up with the pain and force on their mouth. Leg signals, weight positioning, and just lots of time and work with your horse is the best way to communicate what you want without relying on harsh bits and yanking on the horses mouth to force them to your will.
🐎My dad had that same philosophy about horses for his kids. All 4 of us kids had horses that we cared for & lived for, even in adulthood. Dad felt horses kept us out of trouble & they did. 🤓We did ‘all the work’ involved with horses...even building fences & barns. I think it’s even a responsibility that helps to prepare you for parenthood, someday. The horses always came first & always ate before we did! We loved it.😁✌🏼
Totally awesome, I come up short on words: the sportsman ship, the comeradery, the care and handling of the horses its magnificant to watch. Thank you.
Al Johnston I’ve seen the behind the scenes care 1st hand- there’s is nothing more sickening than the treatment of their animals. It’s absolutely disgraceful. A glossy peek into their ‘ways’ during a state fair side show - is not an indicator of their horsemanship. I’ve watched them beat the horses into trailers- leave the ‘slow ones’ for dead in dry fields. They die on their tie out lines in their yards in full view of their reservation community. There are serious problems with animal cruelty, abuse and neglect. It’s nothing to be supported or championed.
This is FANTASTIC!! Such an awesome video depicting a cultural tradition that has helped us, Native ppl/nations, endure!! I am captivated & hope to see more videos like this! Thanks for posting this!
This was amazing-gave me goosebumps and brought tears to my eyes- human and animal athletes working together. As someone who appreciates her own ethnic heritage, I'm glad first people are proud of theirs. The image of the incredible rider and the traditional dress of rider and horse-beautiful. Have to put seeing this live on my bucket list.
Wish the thoroughbred industry would take a few pointers on respect for the horses and people! This is what a sport should be: a friendly competition without abuse and neglect! To think about how many TBs die at every racetrack and how many end up in slaughter trucks before they are five; doomed to suffer from that day they were born! And here you have people compete, have fun together, loose without losing... And the horses get treated well! Like they are the athletes they are! Beautiful!
MPStudios 515 theyre really not. The best I can get a horse to run is when I use my voice and weight to shove them forward then get out of their way. The only time I’d hit a horse is to stop a dangerous behavior ie. Feeling like he’s about to refuse a jump where we’re so close the refusal would cause a crash
They aren't. I think that it's a mental thing that some riders think that the crop or whip helps the horses to run faster just because we see that harso A will 'bite' horse B his butt (most of the time) to go forward. A horse will not ever run faster than they can under normal circumstances so the whip/crop won't work. Just like spurs don't work that way either.
We neither, although the guy they chose to follow is using a (yes this is real life western folk r so basic) a giddy up rope, basically for the most part it’s used against the riders leg or the tack to swing back and forth on either side of the horse to make a big noise but doesn’t usually make contact with the horse, and when it does it’s a softer aid than a crop. Obviously this guy is using it on the animal but I imagine because he can’t use much of a leg aid while he’s hanging on for dear life he uses the rope instead.
I just love these races and the crowd obviously does too. But they are never televised at the stampede like all the other rodeo sports. Thank goodness there are videos or we would never know a thing about this. Big Boo to Calgary Stampede and local news
Honestly this is dope af - even though I kind of don’t like the harsh way of riding and the use of the whips, but i still think this is really something special and somehow beautiful to watch lol
What i liked best was they taught their horses to stop as well as run. Anyone who has ever done any type of time event knows its lots easier to get a horse to run than to stop the running because the horse is usually so keyed up from the initial run especially when running against other horses.
Incredible courage and skill required to participate in this type of racing. I have total respect for all the teams involved. For a Native American, it must be a real honour to be involved in this type of traditional event. Truly inspiring to watch. Thanks for sharing. 🙏😊
Excellent award-winning Canadian film production about a subject of which we otherwise know very little. The quality of the craftsmanship is high, though I remain critical of any human activities dependent primarily on animals in potentially dangerous situations.
I admire the determination that goes with this. All people and horses in the race and during training are determined and have a mindset of only going forward, not back.
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I don't think people realize how hard it is to get a horse to follow orders when VERY stressed out. native Americans have a way with animals like no other. I'm not being stereotypical but if you ever been to a reservation and went hunting with them you'll understand. very respectful to the animals even when the animal is facing death . but the way they ride is unreal. there's a reason the sport is called "Indian relay racing"
@Joe Penn That is because they are prey animals while we are predators. They expect to be hurt. Especially doing this sport those horses most likely dont want this and know there will be something bad coming their way
Joe Penn I can usually tell when a horse is terrified. I work with OTT thoroughbreds that have been abused or abandoned, and when they first come the look on their faces is horrid and sad to see - But, I’m not gonna assume he is terrified, he LOOKS terrified, but you know if you feel you NEED to make sure I know he’s super duper happy living his best life then go ahead lmao
@Joe Penn What I said is true. If your horse comes up to you, it means they trust you. The horses in this video were treated badly, were hurt a lot. I heard from someone that behind the scenes there is a lot of abuse and neglect going on. They fear those people.
@Joe Penn The horses are on edge because a person is jumping from their backs and then onto an another horse. They can get used to it, but if they aren't treated well (which is happening in most events, not just racing but also dressage, jumping, western events etc.) Then they are going to react a certain way. Of course, I'm not going to respond in a rude way if someone is talking to me nicely too. And I'm an atheist so don't worry about that part, I'm simply overly protective of horses because I love them a lot and I have a lot to regret that concern horses. I believed in stuff most of the horse world says and made one horse who I loved like my own hurt, confused and scared, because I didn't know, because most riders say the same thing and I was believing in it. Then I found someone who explained horse behavior, and why horses react in a way, who is not a trainer but has two self trained horses. Since I learned from him I started getting critical about how people ride, what they do to horses, how they train them. And I have noticed so many wrong things. I just want to make sure that the things I was told to do to a friend aren't done to other horses. It seems kinda pointless though, seeing as videos as this one are praised so much.
I've always loved horses, and the Indians whom treat them with far more respect than most would think of doing. Loved this look into a sport I'd love to witness r/time at one point. Ride safe, stay well.
I have so much respect for those people that came before me. As a mixed black person, I know this is not my land and I was not meant to be here. But since I am, I bow to those before us. These absolutely brave, incredible people from across the Northern hemisphere. I prey to them for strength and clarity in these crazy times. And I appreciate their spirit.
enjoyed this video very much, horses look happy and healthy, riders are gamers and put themselves in harms way, very competitive, big body check happened to rider, with no equipment to help him, that's part of the competition, keep on keepin on, look forward to more.
Old sports, from old cultures like these are sports people all over the world should be learning. Gotta keep old stuff alive, no matter who or where it comes from. I've never seen a man aside from my husband speak to a horse that sweetly. I like how they acknowledge the sport is rough on the horses but how they still care for them expertly and with care, and take the time to dedicate to practicing even that running mount. I'd like to think people from Native Tribes and Mongolian Nomads are some of the best horsemen on the planet, some of the oldest and purest forms of horsemanship we have left as human beings, and that's so important. Horses are a part of human history.
Great sport and wonderful athletes, both human and horses. I do wish they wouldn't hit the horses so much! That's a LOT of hitting with those very hurtful whips! Their ancestors went to battle with NO whips - just their legs and connection with the horse. If a horse WANTS to run, it will do its best. Hitting it does NOT help. Great sport. Great athletes. Wonder what would happen if they banned the whips - then we'd really see who was best.
Where I live India Relay Races are very popular. I also worked for a vet and we saw the horses for routine visits. They were always well taken care of and healthy. This is an extreme sport and if the horse doesn't enjoy it, then there are always other things, like cattle work or pleasure riding, the horse can do. If the horse is afraid or feels abused, one well timed kick can end all of it. I don't think the people complaining are giving the horses enough credit that they can take care of themselves. They definitely not giving the Indians enough credit that they care for and respect the horses on a spiritual level also.
It looks like they're either using foam bats (which hurt about as much as you'd expect a packing peanut to) only for the sound or 'missing' the horse with a quirt (for the most part) to elicit the forward energy from the sound, again. It's not the best horsemanship but it's not abuse, lol
@De liefste paardjes zijn van mij, Jup How do you figure that? I'm Native and we are more reserved in our expressions than most other people are. We don't have to be all huggy-kissy-gushy to show we love someone. Our relationship with our horses is a partnership, not owner/property or pet. Horses are sacred beings, not commodities. That has not been the way of Europeans or their colonial descendants since, well, forever. Horses are sold for slaughter in Europe and their meat sold in markets. We'd have to be starving to death before we'd eat a horse, even a wild one.
@@allisonshaw9341 I'm from Europe and I can tell you that the vast majority would never ever sell their horse to the slaughterhouse or even eat a horse. That comment about Europeans was really REALLY uncalled for and unnecessary. The only people who do that are people who are in it for the money and you can find those people everywhere. Regardless of believes or nationality.
I feel like, in races like this, horses should run at their own pace, without being whipped and hit to burst their lungs. It would be more beautiful if they just ran instead of pushed.
@Michael Burkinshaw A horse who loves to race and run will do so without the pain/use of a whip though. If you need to use a whip to get your horse to race......
The whips used in horse racing are lightweight and made with soft foam. Jockeys strike their horses to encourage them to run, and hitting them with the whip creates a popping sound that makes a horse focus. The modern whip is designed to create noise, not pain.
EXCELLENT presentation... a really tough 'break' for Cody. But you didn't let it get you down. You did great! That's the warrior in you. Keep on keeping on. You will succeed.
I just love this so much I've been around horses most of my life also and riding bareback was amazing to feel the horse under you somebody made a comment about the scars on the horses these horses are not babied they're outside horses. The horse is very revered in Native American cultures I stand with my Native American brothers and sisters
@Gi Gi they're lose maybe a few times throughout the race😂wih every movement there arms go flying and the horses mouth gets pulled on:( they can go forward getting their mouth hauled especially when they're so numb to it now:/
Old Sun Loves their horses. A real match between a horse and rider is like a spiritual thing. I really love how that young man uses his whip...he twirls it and whisks it instead of hit with a crop. That;s areal trust builder I think. He's got style. A great event. ALL TEAM: horses, riders and pit crews ...and their moms got a lot heart!!!
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Meanwhile I can’t get on a horse without a a block...
I'm only five feet tall and need a block too. I used to be the exercise rider of Kansas City Chief's mascot Warpaint. Now THAT horse would have been competitive in this but any relay rider would have to be able to jump to the top of the Empire State building as Warpaint was a good 16.3 hands. Also, a good seat (knee grip, hand hold on the mane) since Warpaint's #1 objective was to unseat his rider. I think Warpaint was used in extreme Indian sport because he was said to be one of the fastest in tribal races. I never ran or galloped him to find out as Warpaint also could buck almost hard enough to put his rider in orbit. I heard War Paint was 37 years old when he passed on. Extraordinary age for any horse.
Paige L. I can’t get on a 14h pony without a block it’s sad
lol me either honey
Just takes practice I bet you can do it.
@@amanda.equine3986 I feel ya!!!!
I like how respectful they are to each other after he hit him with the horse
How true! Such sportsmenship, many other athletes could learn from these young men.
Its not very often you see people who can understand that a game is a game, it's a contest that's meant to be fun and challenging for those involved. Lady luck is a fickle mistress but we love her all the same.
And both men did a great job. Loved how he didn't try to over push or become aggressive with the horses because of the sex back. Fantastic people so cool to see
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The first time I ever saw Indian Relay, was 1984 at the Kalispell Fairgrounds. I was 12. It was one of the most breathtaking things I ever saw. It was the afternoon before the fair opened...and they were just practicing.
My parents grew up in Kalispell...
'40s-'60s
Kalispell was the first place I ever visited in Montana! I fell in love with it!
@@alexramirez8198 A lot of great memories there. I lived there from 7th grade to 11th & it's where my mom grew up. Still have family there.
And I lived there then...AND MISSED IT ALL... arggggh
Feels weird seeing the name of your hometown in the comments. Lol
As a long time trainer and indigenous, seeing these guys ride is absolutely amazing! Megwich!
It's really special.
This makes me feel so far apart from my culture..
Ah it means thank you TIL
That was humble of him to apologize. My adrenalin is pumpin
Mans game out there. Dude literally was trucked by a horse. Then got up and finished the race. Respect! I hope he gets a chance to compete again.
There are also women who race and even children.
A simple Arabian sending Salams to you generous people. I love your accent, you carry dignity with you it very humbling.
Also this young man rides!
Love this comment.
As a gaucho from the south of Brazil, I commend you in your skill!
I didn't see no losers in this race. Just winners!
Such good riding and no restriction on whipping !!
Guess you weren't watchin, Kid got spiked, He's broken hearted. Me too,
Double negative
I disagree, all the horses are losers in this case. All they get from this is being frightened, whipped and kicked.
Alice W like I'm sure you know all about
I admire them for riding bareback which is not easy to do very brave awesome
This is a wonderful sport it teaches partnership relationships, common goals team goals
no so difficult . if you don't race with others...
It's easy to ride bareback if the horse is walking slow and you have lots of mane! lol!
Riding a horse bareback is extremely tough on a horse. It is a lot of impact for the horses back to endure.
@@leyaleigh5041 you shouldn't do it always, that's true
How the hell can they call Curling an Olympic sport, and not see how difficult this is? Unbelievable how dedicated that young man was, to get slammed by a 1,000 lb horse, and still keep going... Unreal. Absolutely no losers, unbelievable really.
I don't see animals being abused in curling. Count how many times horses are being hit with a whip in this "sport"
At least in Curling nobody gets relentlessly beaten by a rope.
There are losers, and those are the horses being abused and exploited
@Moon Jar What?
@@alphahale7668 you should see the drunken fights either with team rivals or teammates who hate each other hahaha!! The cameras dont show everything on televised events
Natives didn’t use bits. We’re known for their horsemanship. Sad to see them fall from that
Sweet Scoto finally someone said it
Crazy Ami lets say it louder for the people in the back
Natives did use bits or rawhide or rope war bridles. The horse was brought from Europe remember, with it came the bit or the native adaptation known as the war bridle. Look at all the old pictures you can find and you will see both. The most vocal experts are generally always self proclaimed experts with no knowledge or experience to go along with their expertise. They know exactly how things should be for everyone else, but have no concessions (and every excuse) for themselves and how they live; very hypocritical. They know what real horsemanship looks like since they generally all have pets and think horses are the same animals as dogs.
jks6557 while this is true, leather and rope are miles apart than hard metal with ridiculously long shanks. If this is about culture why don’t they use those methods? Also I’m a barn manager of a working draft barn so I’m much more aware than the average bear.
Rawhide and rope war bridles around the lower jaw can be every bit as brutal as any bit; as can hackamores. It really is less about the bridle and more about the hands and feel of the rider. I can ride any of my finished horses with any bridle or without any bridle or neck rope. Turn, stop, backup, spin all on feel. I'm sure as a draft manager there have been plenty of times you have pulled on lines at what, to the untrained eye, would be the point of disapproval. Especially to the commonly found unexperienced horse experts. I'm not saying these folks don't have any room for improvement, but the point of my comment is that horsemanship is something everyone has to develop and should always be developing. Let's not point fingers at people who are actively trying to get better. Horses are very forgiving and understanding with us and we should emulate the same with each other.
Oh man I love how the rein is loose!!! I watch "equestrian" events and I'm ALways, lighten up on the rein! Why do you hve to make the rein so short/tight?? No one can say anything as the young man galloped with no rein. It is an honour to be able to ride like that. He warned up to you in the corral. I think the young man and he bonded in the corral. A horse is an herd animal. It will always run to take the lead no matter how far behind - if he can.
OUCH! 😖😓
Working with horses will always keep youth out of trouble, teaching the kids the basics every life needs in the universe - a higher level of awareness ❣
God bless you
You worry about the reigns of the bridles being to short in other horse sports but don’t see the way the horses in this video are being hit with literal clubs? How blind can you be. Working with horses is great that’s true, but not in this way. We have to stop any kind of horse racing.
The cookies are empty they are most likely foam crops so they are light and don’t hurt but make a loud sound
Plot twist, equestrians sometimes need to **gasp** communicate with their horse and, thus, hold contact in the bridle. It's all fine and dandy to let a horse go without control when he's already galloping and can pretty much only go forward but trying doing a dressage test on most warmbloods, a hunter round or any other sport that requires more than fear and general forward energy and you'll find that, again **gasp** you need to communicate. At least you aren't a bitless fanatic with a hatred for bits, right...? Right?
Also, a horse won't always run to the top of the herd. It can't do that because there's a system. The leader is upfront and the other horses have to respect that. They will follow eachother, not race eachother. They'll race eachother when they're playing.
@@redfyresasoiaf you can see in the video when they were practicing he actually tried to give contact with reins
This makes me want to go out and ride so bad. Seeing them put this work into their horses and being so confident up there... just inspiring. Bless the Indigenous Peoples
Dude, you were AMAZING! Nobody can take that away from you. You took that hit and kept going! That is impressive!
This sport should be covered more. Canadians would watch it.
I wish America would have this. Because i know i would watch it. This was AMAZING! ❤❤
If you like to watch animal abuse🤷🏻♀️
Monsta M how is it animal abuse?
Julia Youngriver You know NOTHING about horses, right? They have PANIC in such a "game". They fear about their life, when they run that fast (many horses are dying due to a heart attack and breaking their legs, but it gets covered and ignored. You can watch videos of that, it's not an exception) Only people stuck in the 19th century doesn't believe in those research studies and a good human mind. It's just to entertain us humans. Like bullfights. Just more beautiful for the watchers.
@@karolynnolson3359 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Where do you think this took place?????? You do realize that Native Americans, including The Siksaka Nation, are in North America....right????? Lmfao!!
Honestly there are definitally things that i dont like. This is still racing. But the lack of money hungry industry is definitally better, they dont use saddles so its all u and they cant hide devices under em either. most of the riders seem to be using ropes as whips, which might seem bad but try hitting urself with a stick and then a rope. The softer the whip, the bigger the sound and lesser the impact. Ropes might sting but they dont hurt. Also the horses' legs are wrapped, which if done right can help a lot. They are also running on dirt, not grass. Thats also a plus point cause there's a much smaller chance for little holes to appear if they are keeping it under good care. (Which they seem to, judging by the lack of greens and stones). Theres also a clear horsemanship involved and the horses while young and kinda bony, seem to be able to stand still between rounds. Or as still as a young horse can. The riders also dont hold onto their mouths, even if they do have a bit. So, not a fan but its a step from racing.
You put it the best on here 👍👍
Yeah! :)
I agree except for your point of "ropes might sting but they dont hurt". If it stings it hurts. Horses have very sensitive skin so really any whipping action(with a crop, your hand, rope, etc.) is going to hurt them. If horses can feel a tiny fly land on them with their skin, they can definitely feel strap of leather slapping them.
Theres so much ignorance in this comment. For starters dirt racing is way more dangerous than turf racing
@Gi Gi Must agree, would help if they'd lose the whips and have softer or no bits. Im not sure if those whips actually do something, cause whupping them so much should desensitize them tremendously
Wonderful film. The riders are AMAZING. I do wish they would rein in their crop/whip/quirt use. One guy had what looked like a billy club? I'm hoping it was just a large homemade crop. There is just no need to beat the horses like that and doesn't make them go faster after the first hit or so, they stop responding if they get no relief.
summerhorse So you like horse abuse for entertainment?
The most beautiful sight in the world to see an NA young man on a beautiful horse!
Beautiful. Let’s not lose sight of how the people in this film are as beautiful and noble as the horses. Best of luck to that young man and his people.
@Lost Hero STFU idiot.
Yes!
Outstanding! I'm so glad CS finally took this up as an event. So proud to see members of the Siksika nation represented!
Represented to abuse horses.
Osiyo better be careful all the armchair riders will say omg you cant ride bareback gonna hurt that horse 😂😂😂
@@dakota3086 Why do you think western saddles are designed the way they are?
@@gerrycoleman7290 western saddles were first designed by the vaqueros in Mexico for roping the saddle horn was invented for that very purpose horses were ridden bareback long before any saddle was invented Greeks-romans had no saddles
@@gerrycoleman7290 Says the guy/girl who has clearly never ridden a horse bareback.
Amazing riding but sad to see the numerous scars on the horses and the excessive amount they use the crops on them...
Yes.. I see the skin is damaged and open at 13.08
Amazing riding but sad to see how many horses are injured in sport jumping, and how stressed they are in dressage.
Scars on the butt like that are usually from fighting with other horses in the paddock not the rider
It's really a pitty. It would be a pretty cool sport without these whips, but apparently the egos of the riders and their bloodlust to win is higher than everything else. I guess only high penalties could even this out...
Omg the horses are made for running and racing god damn I'm tired of seeing comments like yours DAMN.
There was something so noble about that. Horse, man, respect, sportsmanship. Loved it! First time I've even heard of it but won't be the last.
I have a stallion that would excel at this race, he's a decedent of Man O'War, beautiful Appaloosa
Do you have any videos of him
That is cool that your horse decedent from Man O War
Years ago, I had a grulla Quarter Horse that was a great grandson of King P-234. I ran barrels, poles, and team penned on him. I still have a long list of things I wish we could have done together. He was a once in a lifetime horse.
Considering Man O War is one of the leading sires of all time, he is actually in quite a few bloodlines! I ride a horse for my aunt who has Man o War And War admiral.
My gelded is a descendant of man o war as well
This is fantastic! So proud of the riders. Indian relays are becoming so popular and to think they have always been a part of our culture. Congratulations on winning the award!
Man brother 👍 for taking that hit. In stride.
Native American riders were truly artists, and some of the best horsemen in history. I’m glad to see that this tradition is still alove!
There native Canadian
Wow! Through this man I can see his ancestors riding horses ♥️
The way that horse loaded right into the trailer 2:33, so calm, even eagerly. That man's a horse whisperer. A horse knows who to follow. Wow.
😂😂😂 too funny. Oh yeah, horse whisperer. 😂😂😂😂
I think everyone involved loves their horses and want the best for the horses, but those really harsh bits and whipping habits really speak against them.
whips don't make horses run faster...
@@rebeldown771 never said they did. Whips should be eliminated from the racing scene.... not that they will be however.
There was no snaffle rein/bit. And the young man galloped without rein. Nothing cruel was done. The horses are in their element.
@@lizziesangi1602 I would hardly call horses being whipped and hit and forced to bust their lungs for a crowd's entertainment "in their element".
@@lizziesangi1602 Use/presence of the crop/leather in the race entirely says otherwise about them 'being in their element'. See 8:45 . It's all throughout the race the riders using the crop/whip if you pay attention.
As for the reins, see 9:44 . I get they have to get the horse to stop but you can see how much force they are putting being the bit to get the horse to stop after hitting them with the whip to push them faster. The horse's head comes up with the pain and force on their mouth.
Leg signals, weight positioning, and just lots of time and work with your horse is the best way to communicate what you want without relying on harsh bits and yanking on the horses mouth to force them to your will.
The rider actually went and apologize for hitting him with the horse. My favorite part of the video.
6:50 That is insane
More like, stupid.
That was the most bad ass shit I've ever seen xD
@Allison Hoff Really cool
Gerry Coleman you go try it then. Bet you’ll look as stupid as your comment.
@@crimson.flower9619 😂
Oh yes, so natural and they looove their horses... That's why they use huuuge shank bits... Horrible to see those heads go up in pain like that...
Exactly! Also, did you see how many times they whipped those horses?
Get a life... how many horses land in the kill pens ?? Babied and without ANY-skill set. Did you listen at all ??
@@bkdascenzo how is that connected to what were talking about here?
I know, seriously. Was looking for a shred of horsemanship and couldn't find it.
That’s why I don’t ride I can’t ride without feeling bad 4 the horse
🐎My dad had that same philosophy about horses for his kids. All 4 of us kids had horses that we cared for & lived for, even in adulthood. Dad felt horses kept us out of trouble & they did. 🤓We did ‘all the work’ involved with horses...even building fences & barns. I think it’s even a responsibility that helps to prepare you for parenthood, someday. The horses always came first & always ate before we did! We loved it.😁✌🏼
Lol, teach a kid to love a horse, and they'll never have money for drugs. 🤣
FULL HEARTED HONORABLE WARRIORS... Miigwetch for being a good example for our young ones. The ELDERS are happy !
Totally awesome, I come up short on words: the sportsman ship, the comeradery, the care and handling of the horses its magnificant to watch. Thank you.
Hahahahhahaha the "care"....hahaha you're so funny
Al Johnston I’ve seen the behind the scenes care 1st hand- there’s is nothing more sickening than the treatment of their animals. It’s absolutely disgraceful. A glossy peek into their ‘ways’ during a state fair side show - is not an indicator of their horsemanship. I’ve watched them beat the horses into trailers- leave the ‘slow ones’ for dead in dry fields. They die on their tie out lines in their yards in full view of their reservation community. There are serious problems with animal cruelty, abuse and neglect. It’s nothing to be supported or championed.
Handling of the horse involved harsh whipping and pullling their mouthes like crazy. that stuff is bound to hurt any living beings greatly.
I never even heard of this sport. Maximum Respect. More videos from this team!
I rode racehorses for 15 years. You got to be so strong in the legs and back. This film is great.
Amazing! Not only does it take tons of courage but you can see how connected riders are to the horses. It's beautiful to watch.
This is FANTASTIC!! Such an awesome video depicting a cultural tradition that has helped us, Native ppl/nations, endure!! I am captivated & hope to see more videos like this! Thanks for posting this!
John Southern, and?
John southern but the horse breed itself was created in north america
Terrific riding, great guys and a sweet little documentary! Thanks!
Absolutely incredible riding! What a great subject for a movie this would be.
Yassss!
Do you know what incredible riding is because it definitely ain’t that
Have you ever seen incredible riding before
Yesss!!! A movie. Very cinematic.
They did, it was disney in the 60's called Run Appaloosa Run. Great movie
This was amazing-gave me goosebumps and brought tears to my eyes- human and animal athletes working together. As someone who appreciates her own ethnic heritage, I'm glad first people are proud of theirs. The image of the incredible rider and the traditional dress of rider and horse-beautiful. Have to put seeing this live on my bucket list.
they are only ''working together'' because the racers beat the living hell out of these horses during a race
Your horses are great, your spirit is great, you will do well!!! Keep going!!!❤❤❤
It would be wonderful to see a full length movie involving your fine sport.
Ive watch this for the first time in Heartland!
There is something different about the way these guys interact with their horses. It's amazing. ❤️
What a great run! Beautiful Doc!! A'ho!!
Amazing! A follow up video of the next years race please?
Kia kaha to all riders, horses & supporters. Mauri ora :)
Beautiful and raw. I love this. First Nations People are amazing. Their connection with horses is otherworldly. 😘🤲🏻👌🏻
Just found out this is one of my racing club's thoroughbred mare's new career . I think she's going to really be good at this . Makes my heart glad.
Wish the thoroughbred industry would take a few pointers on respect for the horses and people!
This is what a sport should be: a friendly competition without abuse and neglect!
To think about how many TBs die at every racetrack and how many end up in slaughter trucks before they are five; doomed to suffer from that day they were born!
And here you have people compete, have fun together, loose without losing... And the horses get treated well! Like they are the athletes they are!
Beautiful!
I don’t think the crops are needed..
MPStudios 515 ik
MPStudios 515 theyre really not. The best I can get a horse to run is when I use my voice and weight to shove them forward then get out of their way. The only time I’d hit a horse is to stop a dangerous behavior ie. Feeling like he’s about to refuse a jump where we’re so close the refusal would cause a crash
They aren’t if they see the horse is staying at a speed why are the hitting the horse to go faster when they clearly see the horse can’t
They aren't. I think that it's a mental thing that some riders think that the crop or whip helps the horses to run faster just because we see that harso A will 'bite' horse B his butt (most of the time) to go forward.
A horse will not ever run faster than they can under normal circumstances so the whip/crop won't work. Just like spurs don't work that way either.
We neither, although the guy they chose to follow is using a (yes this is real life western folk r so basic) a giddy up rope, basically for the most part it’s used against the riders leg or the tack to swing back and forth on either side of the horse to make a big noise but doesn’t usually make contact with the horse, and when it does it’s a softer aid than a crop. Obviously this guy is using it on the animal but I imagine because he can’t use much of a leg aid while he’s hanging on for dear life he uses the rope instead.
I just love these races and the crowd obviously does too. But they are never televised at the stampede like all the other rodeo sports. Thank goodness there are videos or we would never know a thing about this. Big Boo to Calgary Stampede and local news
Honestly this is dope af - even though I kind of don’t like the harsh way of riding and the use of the whips, but i still think this is really something special and somehow beautiful to watch lol
You need to see this live; so amazing, the talent and guts required. And this is one excellent film.
Geez, wish I could mount half as good as that. Just an old lady that take quite a while to mount and longer to dismount! You are inspiring!
What i liked best was they taught their horses to stop as well as run. Anyone who has ever done any type of time event knows its lots easier to get a horse to run than to stop the running because the horse is usually so keyed up from the initial run especially when running against other horses.
Wow! Unbelievable how stupid some are. 😂😂😂
Long may you run
Incredible courage and skill required to participate in this type of racing. I have total respect for all the teams involved.
For a Native American, it must be a real honour to be involved in this type of traditional event. Truly inspiring to watch. Thanks for sharing. 🙏😊
Excellent award-winning Canadian film production about a subject of which we otherwise know very little. The quality of the craftsmanship is high, though I remain critical of any human activities dependent primarily on animals in potentially dangerous situations.
Terry Crowley indeed. Well I wonder if you have heard of bitcoin mining and binary trading?
I admire the determination that goes with this. All people and horses in the race and during training are determined and have a mindset of only going forward, not back.
Omg this is possibly my favourite sport ever, this is amazing!!
Nog nooit gehoord van Siskisa- en deze sport nog nooit gezien- maar het staat nu bij mij opde kaart-!!!
Geweldig-!!!
Bedankt voor het delen en veel liefs uit Nederland--!!!
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What a wonderful sport. My Buddy from Wyoming sent me this vid and I'm very grateful he did. Ride on!!
I don't think people realize how hard it is to get a horse to follow orders when VERY stressed out. native Americans have a way with animals like no other. I'm not being stereotypical but if you ever been to a reservation and went hunting with them you'll understand. very respectful to the animals even when the animal is facing death . but the way they ride is unreal. there's a reason the sport is called "Indian relay racing"
That poor grey horse looks terrified.
@Joe Penn That is because they are prey animals while we are predators. They expect to be hurt. Especially doing this sport those horses most likely dont want this and know there will be something bad coming their way
Joe Penn I can usually tell when a horse is terrified. I work with OTT thoroughbreds that have been abused or abandoned, and when they first come the look on their faces is horrid and sad to see - But, I’m not gonna assume he is terrified, he LOOKS terrified, but you know if you feel you NEED to make sure I know he’s super duper happy living his best life then go ahead lmao
@Joe Penn What I said is true. If your horse comes up to you, it means they trust you. The horses in this video were treated badly, were hurt a lot. I heard from someone that behind the scenes there is a lot of abuse and neglect going on. They fear those people.
@Joe Penn The horses are on edge because a person is jumping from their backs and then onto an another horse. They can get used to it, but if they aren't treated well (which is happening in most events, not just racing but also dressage, jumping, western events etc.) Then they are going to react a certain way.
Of course, I'm not going to respond in a rude way if someone is talking to me nicely too.
And I'm an atheist so don't worry about that part, I'm simply overly protective of horses because I love them a lot and I have a lot to regret that concern horses. I believed in stuff most of the horse world says and made one horse who I loved like my own hurt, confused and scared, because I didn't know, because most riders say the same thing and I was believing in it. Then I found someone who explained horse behavior, and why horses react in a way, who is not a trainer but has two self trained horses. Since I learned from him I started getting critical about how people ride, what they do to horses, how they train them. And I have noticed so many wrong things. I just want to make sure that the things I was told to do to a friend aren't done to other horses. It seems kinda pointless though, seeing as videos as this one are praised so much.
Vivien Takacs how tf was the horses treated badly. I don’t think we watched the same video at all😂.
Love how you choose the right spirited horses for racing. Thanks for sharing this video.
Great spirited horses, great spirited riders...compassion & empathy all around and true sportsmanship. No cruelty here.
I've always loved horses, and the Indians whom treat them with far more respect than most would think of doing. Loved this look into a sport I'd love to witness r/time at one point. Ride safe, stay well.
Ugh I love this. Ride on my friends!
I have so much respect for those people that came before me. As a mixed black person, I know this is not my land and I was not meant to be here. But since I am, I bow to those before us. These absolutely brave, incredible people from across the Northern hemisphere. I prey to them for strength and clarity in these crazy times. And I appreciate their spirit.
enjoyed this video very much, horses look happy and healthy, riders are gamers and put themselves in harms way, very competitive, big body check happened to rider, with no equipment to help him, that's part of the competition, keep on keepin on, look forward to more.
Barbara on the edge so horses being beaten and having their faces yanked off are happy horses?
You obviously like to watch horses being whipped harshly and beaten just because the rider wants to win a competetion.
I don't get why there are so many positive comments? People are hating on horse races but this is oke? I don't see how it is really better..
O for Christ's sake shut yer irrelevant wordhole.
@@karaamundson3964 I don't see why you have to be rude now..
Neither of these two are good and idk why people still keep defending it
@@vivientakacs5599 that's exactly what I was thinking..
Fantastic sportsmanship after the race between competitors!
This comment section is mainly sensitive horse girls and equestrians lmao chill
Old sports, from old cultures like these are sports people all over the world should be learning. Gotta keep old stuff alive, no matter who or where it comes from. I've never seen a man aside from my husband speak to a horse that sweetly. I like how they acknowledge the sport is rough on the horses but how they still care for them expertly and with care, and take the time to dedicate to practicing even that running mount. I'd like to think people from Native Tribes and Mongolian Nomads are some of the best horsemen on the planet, some of the oldest and purest forms of horsemanship we have left as human beings, and that's so important. Horses are a part of human history.
You guys are amazing athletes! Saw the relay races at Pendleton and loved it!! Good luck to you at your next race.
That kid has legendary genetics and height ❤
I'm glad to see that french and english immigrants left some real americans alive.
He won 2023!!! So awesome to see this now! :)
man i love the old son team
That kid needs to be a model, he's gorgeous
Great little film!!
Too amazing to comment! Wow. What skill balance bravery boldness with gentleness do these people have! To be admired!
Great sport and wonderful athletes, both human and horses. I do wish they wouldn't hit the horses so much! That's a LOT of hitting with those very hurtful whips! Their ancestors went to battle with NO whips - just their legs and connection with the horse. If a horse WANTS to run, it will do its best. Hitting it does NOT help. Great sport. Great athletes. Wonder what would happen if they banned the whips - then we'd really see who was best.
Where I live India Relay Races are very popular. I also worked for a vet and we saw the horses for routine visits. They were always well taken care of and healthy. This is an extreme sport and if the horse doesn't enjoy it, then there are always other things, like cattle work or pleasure riding, the horse can do. If the horse is afraid or feels abused, one well timed kick can end all of it. I don't think the people complaining are giving the horses enough credit that they can take care of themselves. They definitely not giving the Indians enough credit that they care for and respect the horses on a spiritual level also.
I definitely hate how much they are slapping the horses.
It looks like they're either using foam bats (which hurt about as much as you'd expect a packing peanut to) only for the sound or 'missing' the horse with a quirt (for the most part) to elicit the forward energy from the sound, again. It's not the best horsemanship but it's not abuse, lol
@@redfyresasoiaf on top of that, they dont even wear spurs.
@De liefste paardjes zijn van mij, Jup How do you figure that? I'm Native and we are more reserved in our expressions than most other people are. We don't have to be all huggy-kissy-gushy to show we love someone.
Our relationship with our horses is a partnership, not owner/property or pet. Horses are sacred beings, not commodities. That has not been the way of Europeans or their colonial descendants since, well, forever. Horses are sold for slaughter in Europe and their meat sold in markets. We'd have to be starving to death before we'd eat a horse, even a wild one.
@@allisonshaw9341 I'm from Europe and I can tell you that the vast majority would never ever sell their horse to the slaughterhouse or even eat a horse. That comment about Europeans was really REALLY uncalled for and unnecessary.
The only people who do that are people who are in it for the money and you can find those people everywhere. Regardless of believes or nationality.
I am also very happy, same as Al, seeing these guys in some way keeping Tradition and doing something they can be proud of
I feel like, in races like this, horses should run at their own pace, without being whipped and hit to burst their lungs. It would be more beautiful if they just ran instead of pushed.
@Michael Burkinshaw A horse who loves to race and run will do so without the pain/use of a whip though. If you need to use a whip to get your horse to race......
@Michael Burkinshaw I understand if you've never met a horse who loved to run, but they're out there ^^
@Michael Burkinshaw Its proven whipping doesn't make the horse run faster. But slower.
The whips used in horse racing are lightweight and made with soft foam. Jockeys strike their horses to encourage them to run, and hitting them with the whip creates a popping sound that makes a horse focus. The modern whip is designed to create noise, not pain.
EXCELLENT presentation... a really tough 'break' for Cody. But you didn't let it get you down. You did great! That's the warrior in you. Keep on keeping on. You will succeed.
Should check out a few horses from wild horse island finest and fastest in the world ! :) Ktunaxa owned !
So cool watching these guys ride! What a great mini-doc, loved every bit of it! What warriors in tune with the animals the ride alongside! ✊
A Winner !!!
Horse and rider already, yeah I love it
Cody is my cousin
I just love this so much I've been around horses most of my life also and riding bareback was amazing to feel the horse under you somebody made a comment about the scars on the horses these horses are not babied they're outside horses. The horse is very revered in Native American cultures I stand with my Native American brothers and sisters
This is so effing rad!!!!
That looks fun! I would have loved to do that when I was young!
I watched this sport in live!! Was amazing experience, those riders deserve a lot respect
not to mention these guys are basically holding on for dear life and balancing on their poor horses mouths.
@Gi Gi they're lose maybe a few times throughout the race😂wih every movement there arms go flying and the horses mouth gets pulled on:( they can go forward getting their mouth hauled especially when they're so numb to it now:/
Old Sun Loves their horses. A real match between a horse and rider is like a spiritual thing. I really love how that young man uses his whip...he twirls it and whisks it instead of hit with a crop. That;s areal trust builder I think. He's got style. A great event. ALL TEAM: horses, riders and pit crews ...and their moms got a lot heart!!!