Thank you Teresa, that is praise indeed, coming from a professional teacher... it's not always easy projecting a message simply to a camera, as you don't know who's watching, your viewers could be 6yrs old to 66yrs old, and we hear that they often are, and as you will know yourself, it helps a great deal with teaching anything, to be able to direct your demonstration within the frame of reference of your pupils, a primary school teacher does their job very differently to a university lecturer, but they're still both teaching, so we have to give a very broad and basic explanation , with the hope we don't patronise those who already know...! But we love doing it, and as you know, anything you have a passion for, you wan't to excel at .. thanks for watching, and appreciate your kind support, Del & Penny!
I love this guy. It feels like a wise man imparting fatherly knowledge when I watch these videos. I have a triumph street scrambler on order and its so great how I will have many instructional videos on how to DIY. Also very easy to listen to and not one bit confusing . Your a real stand up guy for doing this and I sincerely appreciate it.
Thanks for teaching me to care for my bike in a professional way (and without scratching the paint) your work habits match what I was taught when working on fighter aircraft in the Fleet Air Arm .... Professional bike mechanics would benefit from your enthusiastic information, which I am sure must keep many of us safer on the road ..... and thanks to the camera lady who you pay so well ....
+Graham Spink Hi Graham, now you've gone and reminded her she should be paid, and now that's gonna cost me lol ! ... thanks for your kind comments, I'm sure you agree there's no subsitute for doing something properly...!
Keep up the good work mate...I am a Walsall (Staffordshire born Australian aged 76) and deciding whether to invest in a Triumph Speed triple R or a BMW 800 ? ....(presently own two aging Suzuki's .I am the youngest of three English born Aussies who burn around the Hills surrounding Perth in beautifull Western Australia state....More than twice as big as Texas.... You should check it out one day !!!
+Graham Spink We watched Henry Cole on TV doing one of his "Worlds greatest motorcycle rides" right along the west coast, it looks awesome, like a place on another planet....and yeah that came across....is very big indeed..lol
I bought a ten year old Buell to play with in my old age !!!....Best handling bike I've ever ridden, but need to replace the baffles to appease all the neighbours...
Hi, I have a Bonneville T100 Black (2015) and have been following a few of your videos on Bonneville. I am surprised and quite happy at the same time that your videos are so clear, you know what common people without the knowledge like me are looking for and just by following your videos, I am inspired to do a few DIY mods on my Bonneville T100. Great Job and please do keep posting.
Hello there, oh my goodness, what a lovely message, thank you my friend... am glad we can inspire you, keep in touch and let us know how you get on with your projects... good luck! D&Px
Listen carefully: I am a certified PANIC MECHANIC. I overthink everything, forget what I just done, and end up screwing up everything. This video restored my confidence in myself, and I changed my air filter in under 10 minutes. THANK YOU! And thanks for finally aiming the light at the bike. At first, I couldn’t see anything and was about to find another video when voila! Let there be light!
great video... just did this today on my scrambler... I did find out that my dealership doesn't use the rag protecting the frame rail trick... it's all banged up right in that spot... thanks again...
Couldnt agree more, great upgrade. I use K&N and have for a long time, on my Harley its exposed so I always use the oil (slight coat) to bring the color back. BUT,,, the filter is taken out and washed monthly. Very good points you have made here.... Ride Safe....
New/returning rider with little or no mechanical background and I’m loving the information your are sharing. Thank you very much Very best to you both in the new year Thanks again and keep it up Steve
Nice 1 Del, K&N is the way to go,love the sound a K&N filter gives out,and like you said it can be washed,I even had one on my 1984 KX,250,☺TC,n like always drive it like you stole it,greetings from a wet n cold Scotland.
Thanks fellah, I know what you mean... nothing like a good ol' wash and re-use! Just wish they would invent tyres you could do it with, as mine just keeping wearing out!
Thanks Byron, it's great to have her back too, the editing takes half the time and not only that, we just up-graded the camera so from the next video onwards things should be much improved! Ride safe buddy, Del
Great information as always. I really do feel that the K&N and other similar products are the way to go. As a matter of fact, my wifey insists on all our vehicles and we just wash it in soapy water. Tried it with the oil and living in a desert like environment just made the filter harder to clean. Just a small tip I use is 3" painters tape to help against scratches on maintenances, but don't know if it would hold up against the "cheese grater." Thanks for the awesome info again.
Hey buddy, you've re-affirmed exactly my point... in dusty desert conditions on a long ride or tour your filter can just become blocked, the ability to take it out and bang it against the foot peg and carry on is essential... good call on the tape, anything will do that stops that filter scuffing your paint...
Thanks so much for all your hard work in filming these videos. I have the laptop next to my bike playing these videos, following your instructions step by step when playing with my bike. Keep up the great work and just wanted to say - thanks...!!!
+Wayne Nicholson Thanks Wayne, im glad the videos can help you out buddy, its good to hear that you're taking charge of your bike and doing things yourself.. take care and ride safe buddy.... all the best. Del.
I'm a big fan of K&N -the previous owner of my DRZ fitted one, but when I went to clean it I discovered they'd re-oiled it with something heavy like engine oil, and the thing was gummed up like treacle. One wash later and the performance difference was amazing! When I got the S4 I slapped a K&N in her within the first week. Brilliant bit of kit, I don't know why manufacturers stick with paper filters, except for the financial aspect of course :o)
Well done mate, it's amazing what substances I've found soaking these filters, but honestly, you don't need anything... the wetter they are, the quicker they gunge up and I can't think there's much profit in selling you an air filter, not to mention the green aspect of sending them to landfill... after all, they charge you £12 for disposal of your old oil, so it's not like they aren't tuned it to recycling!
Thanks for the tips again Delboy. I wasn't sure if you needed to use that oil after washing the filter, glad you don't need to because it's no good to be washing oil down the drain either. I don't care if this is one of your oldest videos, it's great.
It's perfectly ok to run a K&N filter dry as it is to oil it, specially if you're in a dusty environment oiling it makes it like a fly paper, so if you have an oiled filter it will bung up extremely quickly , it's perfectly ok to run them dry, just because you're givven the oil doesn't mean you have to use it, after all, they don't oil the paper or foam ones do they...??!
unfortunately like ALL manufacturers "why sell you 1 when they can sell you 1 every 5000 miles", I've been away on holiday and your scrambler is looking sweet as m8, your pipes are looking loads better than when I first seen them and the black looks is killer.
Dr. Delboy, another fine tutorial for proper maintenance ! Appreciate your point of view regarding long-term/lifetime filters vs. toss away factory versions...Best wishes from Atlanta, Georgia.
Hearing you talk about torque settings reminded me of something the instructor told me on a SwageLok course I did. He said there's a direct link between how much someone over tightens a nut or bolt and the amount of hair there is on their arse.
Hiya Del, yes I put a K&N in my 1200 mk1 Bandit, did a plug chop and really there was no difference between that and the HiFlow I fitted last time up. The trick is as you wisely state to not alter the airbox or use pods! (Horrible things!...)
Cheers Ted, totally agree mate, it was in a conversation with the now legendary 'Ray Deben' about 20yrs ago when I took my Z1000 into him and asked him to dyno it up with cone filters on and he told me the best thing to do was throw them away and re-fit the air box! Engine's must breather from a still air cavity to avoid the turbulence around cones!
For a 2-stroke MX bike, it come with those foam filters that you have to oil. Do you need foam air-filter specific oil, or can any 30W type engine oil? Also, if you oil it too much, it probably won't breathe properly, but if you don't oil it enough, it probably won't filter as effectively. How to you find that balance between oiling enough, and not oiling too much.
I've been using K&N oil filters for two years now. The internals are superior to the big names, but my favorite is the 17mm nut spot welded onto the top of the canister style filters. It makes removing the old and and torquing the new easy. Ya I'm OCD about torqing everything. :)
I make you right on the k&n filters ive fitted them to all my bikes too. Some nice little tips in this vid. I cant stand people who hang on metal fixings going into plastic. Im sure the moron who owned my bandit before used a breaker bar to do the air box up. Another nice tip with the cloth around the frame too. I bet they dont take that much care at a main dealers. Great vid as always Del keep em coming. Lewis
Cheers buddy, wasn't sure whether it needed a video, but as is so often the case we often hear from people who have never heard of the thing, so why not share it! Been thinking about some ideas for the middle England meet next year, just keep coming up against trying to make the dates work!
Another great video Del We had a debate on the XJR forum about the pro's and con's of fitting after market filter over the oem in the end i think it was something like a 60/40 split in favour of the after market,mainly because of the life time use rather than performance I have always fitted K&N on my bikes,the XJR ran a bit lean according to the dyno so i was advised to lift the needles in the carbs one notch ,I must get it back on the dyno and see if it;s worked lol oh and top tip about not using the oil on the K&N ,your theory make's a lot of sense mate
Sure thing mate, but don't over think it on the dyno... just do a PROPER plug colour check and that will reassure you of the mixture... ride at 4,000 rpm for about 3mins then hit the kill switch, pull in the clutch and coast to a halt, then pull a plug out... if it's Rich Tea biscuit coloured on the tip, it's perfect! cheers fellah, Del
Great video @Moonfleet41. Quick question, was there a reason why you didn't just leave out the snorkel when you were installing the new air filter in? I've read that if you remove the snorkel, it will further remove any restrictions to the airflow...allowing you to squeeze a bit more performance and make the bike sound more beastly? Your thoughts would be appreciated. thanks
Hi Ryan, what you have read is right, the snorkel and internal air baffle removal do make a tiny difference.. but the factory snorkel is bonded to the cover that holds the filter in place.. you cannot leave it off of the filter will fall out.. and to remove the snorkel means literally cutting it off the cover with a box knife and that still leaves a rough shape to the hole that needs shaping properly.. you can buy a replacement retaining cover for the filter that has no snorkel.. but its about £70 for what amounts to little more then plastic ring... maybe cannibalize a spare one from eBay.. but TBH, the small gains from removing it arent worth the trouble..
Thank you for your response - really appreciate your info. I see that you've used the cylindrical K&N filter for your scrambler. I understand that the filter for the Street Twin version is of the cassette type. Would you know if the concern for filter falling out if cutting the snorkel would still be applicable for the ST version? From what I read, the cassette filter sits flat inside the compartment. But point taken regarding cost vs reward in cutting out the snorkel portion and the supposed small gains obtained. thanks again!
Hi again Ryan, firstly I can't answer the question about the cassette filter being held in, but I can say that honestly mate, all that kind of malarky is pointless, it will not give you any more performance... the whole concept of it comes from long ago when Japanese manufacturers seemed to only get woefully poor return in means of horsepower from some quite big engines, my old GSX1100 Suzuki in the 80's made about 80hp brand new, and even £3000 spent on the engine, only made 110hp... (before the days of turbos)... but fast forward to modern Triumphs, they have become incredibly good at wringing all the power out of their engines, there truly is nothing being wasted on tardy tuning, what you get from your Street Twin, if you put it on a dyno, is probably 99% of what it's capable of, and that's great news when you buy a bike now cos you don't have to worry about trying to make it faster, nowadays if you want a faster bike, you have to buy one! If you speak to George Milburn at TEC Bike Parts, he has done some amazing research development work involving the cams on the new breed of Triumphs and what he's offering can actually create some proper bona fide meaningful horsepower, a kick in the pants you will actually notice in real time... but all that faffing about with air boxes, and air box eliminator kits, etc., is 100% for looks only mate... you get nothing meaningful from it, so don't waste your money or your time... The best way to achieve better performance on today's bikes is down to just removing weight and improving the quality of the tyres... heop that helps you mate ! Give George a ring and have a chat with him !
Thank you Moonfleet41, honest and incredibly useful response - really appreciate that! Again, I take your insights to heart as I'm no expert. I've seen the videos of the TEC cams and they do seem to add legitimate performance (with dyne results posted as proof). I think from my perspective, a quick, least intrusive and cost effective way to boost performance on a ST is to put in a high flow air filter and decat it. thanks again!
@8:34"I imagine if you really want to be OCD, there is a torque setting for these"...3 Nm!!! LOL I have started the countdown on you for when you decide to carve that airbox up and really let the ol' girl breath! +1 on your attitude of why you do this mate...I do it for the same reasons too.
Ayup mate, you're gonna wait a long time for the air box mods cos I'm no gonna bother! Not only is it a bitch to get out, but I don't see the reason, there are practically no performance gains to be had from that alone and when you consider that even the 900 big bore kit only gives you a fraction more horse power, it's just not worth the grief... bikes always run better with air boxes, specially EFI motors... pipes, filter and AIS remove is all it's gonna be... ! The way the bike is so easy to throw around and handles so well, I'm actually chasing that rainbow instead... gonna deal with a rear shock upgrade shortly to eliminate the wallowing in bends and when it's tyre time, switch over to something softer... I've never used all the power yet, even on standard pipes, it has enough grunt for pissing off the traffic lol!
Good point on the EFI but there is a decent gain on the carb'd models. The butt dyno makes it a lot of fun too. It's easy to get them out...just need to undo the rear shock and accordion the bike up at the swingarm. I agree with the suspension...always a good investment especially with the stock set up on these bikes.
Hi Moonfleet 41, I installed the d&d full system exhaust when it came straight out from the dealer. i'm wondering do i need to remap again if i put the k&n filter?? thanks love you videos ive learned alot
Hi mate.....as long as you had i remapped when you fitted the D&D, then thats all you need to do... the filter wont make any difference, you dont have to remap at all for the filter even if its all standard.... ill bet it sounds great too... hope that helps... all the best, Del.
That's a nice simple modification Del!! makes a big differemce doesn't it?? ... By the way, I saw that same guy here riding his Scrambler a couple of days ago. IDoesn't soind nearly as good as yours though!!
Ayup Jeff, thanks mate, certainly sounds a bit more 'dark side' now eh?! Looking forward to getting both bikes out for a little sound off in the open once this damn salt washes away!
Sorry mate, didn't make it clear, you can run K&N filters wet or dry... at no point does the dust go into the engine provided the filter is fitted correctly! One normally runs them wet as that's the initial idea, but running them dry in extreme dusty conditions can lead to a thick claggy build up that will block the filter... whereas if it's dry, it can drop to the bottom of the filter and allow it to still breathe and you can whip it out at the roadside on a long trip, such as through the desert etc., and just bang it out... you can't do that if it's all gummed up with oil...
hey man great stuff .. i just recently change my standards filter to a k& n on my t100 2006 model. and a new exhaust tec 2-1 .. so my question is do i need re jet? or do i leave my bike as it is.. with the new exhaust and the filter.. will damage somehow my bike if i don’t re jet or i just loose a bit power.. ?
The only thing i had to adjust on my FZ6S2 when i switched to KN filter was up the idle slightly. I checked to make sure installed flow direct right on it and it was right. Apart from than it nice easy mod, gain was noticible until i was main road where i could let her breath fully. Next mod...progressive springs!
You should definitely oil the filter as It requires the oil to stop dirt particles from passing through the filter and into the air intake/engine. It will hardly affect mixture if you clean it regularly. The only time you don't use oil type air filters is with maf sensor style intakes as the oil passing through can damage the hot resistor wire. However the dry type filters used on those systems have a closer weave to reduce particle transfer.
The cotton gauze filters usually come oiled. I have ran a K&N on my truck since 2004. The MAF sensor is right behind it. If you don't go nuts with the oil, it will not cause any issue with the MAF sensor. The tighter weave on the paper filter is more restrictive. A properly maintained oil and gauze filter is actually less restrictive and filters down to a smaller particle size.
Hi, i'm contemplating between replacing the standard air filter to a K&N or getting the BC air box removal kit which comes with 2 K&N cone filters. Any advice on which should i go for would greatly be appreciated! Thanks
+Ian Sim Hi Ian, even after fitting the open pipes and remap, i didn't notice any more fuel consumption.. revs a lot more freely due to the free flowing nature of the filter and open pipes... but generally better all round.
Hi, in one of the later videos you recommended another filter because of the wider gaps in k&n. can you pls give link to that video. can't seem to find it
Have to admit, i am ripping the K&N out of my bandit and going back to paper, as for me my bandits running a tad lean with the filter and the stubby can. I think with stock jetting its either got to be one or the other, not both. Going back to OEM. :/ Good vid matey!
Sounds like a weird move John... you're actually gonna throttle it and choke up the air intake to rectify incorrect fueling... I've stock jetting in mine, 10" exhaust and a K&N panel and it runs fine... or have you been listening to Dave & Gerry again lol!
Very useful video! Just need your opinion on something, I've read reviews that DNA air filters give better performance on a thruxton as compared to K&N. Any opinion about this?
+Shaun Goh Hi Shaun. DNA are just a competitor to K&N, and i guess they will natually be compared with each other.... but i fail to see how any Air filter can improve performance...even on a Dyno you would struggle to see any difference other than "points of a percent" here or there in the graph... TBH buddy, the Thruxton (865cc) is a camel anyway, just like my Scrambler, you need to do an awful lot of modification to those motors to see any reall street performance.... if you havent tried the new 1200 bikes yet...then go test ride one and you give up bothering with expensive mods on your 865..! your money would be better spent on a top class handling package like some Ohlins shocks, and some sexy forks.... then some real chewy tyres and you'll be too busy having fun to notice the BHP...lol Hope that helps buddy... maybe not the reply you expected, but that how i see it.. Del.
+Moonfleet41 Thanks for your advice sir! My thruxton is only 6 months old thus I won't be swapping it for the thruxton 1200 I'm afraid. And yeah I agree it is a camel compared to my street triple lol. I've got Ohlins rear shocks and am looking around for some good Michelins or Pirellis that fit the stock rims (front rim is a pain to fir tires for). Did consider doing the air box removal but decided thats more of a cosmetic mod than anything. Will settle for a setup of Ohlins shocks, AI removal, air intake bellmouth with baffle removed and TORS exhausts. Do you think O2 sensor block off is necessary? I read that a remap is required for that and I'm not sure if Triumph's TORs map is compatible.
hi Del do you have any videos of cleaning used air filters, noticed my old GPX filter was lookin bit grubby but daft as it is ive never actually cleaned one, or is it better to buy a new one? Cheers
If it's a paper filter mate, which the standard ones would be, then they're disposable, so you'll have to replace it... but if somebody in the past has upgraded it to the K&N cloth type, they can be washed and there are different methods, depending on the filter... so you'd need to identify which one it is first mate, hope that helps!
@@SEANO1810 Awesome mate, that's money saved then.. the foam ones can get real greasy over time with fuel residue... so if it feels sticky to the touch, try a little degreaser through it first..even WD40 can dissolve any greasy residue.! but if it's just plain dirty, then use a big dollop of hand cleaning gel (like Carex or something), NOT washing up liquid.... mix the hand soap with warm water and make a small wash bath for it in the bottom of a bucket.. first, soak it for ten minutes, then gently agitate it to loosen all the dirt... and let it dry naturally NOT with an airline.! .. hope that helps mate, good luck with it.. Del.
@@Moonfleet41 cheers Del gives me something to tinker with during lockdown doing the old girl up a bit did brake pads all round yesterday tyres week before and generally polishing bits up, stay safe mate
Hi I want to replace my Scrambler´s air filter with the K&N TB 9004, does it really increase power? I have use K&N filters in my cars but never on my bikes
Alright Del Another good video. i use the K n N myself, totally agree with you! dont see the point in buying a new filter every year when a K n N has paid for itself in 18 months and then you have a lifetime of use out of it. But im waffleing, i was wondering if you know of anyone that is looking to do their own project bandit? My 1996 600S is going up for sale soon and thought you may know of someone looking for a.........decent bike for a project lol anyway just thought i would put the Question out there. Cheers mate
I certainly do mate, not sure if it will be exact right bike for him, or if you are close enough geographically to deal, but get in touch with ...pgod1960.... he's currently looking for a Bandit to use as a bit of a project, so why not drop him a PM and see if you can help each other out! Good luck mate, Del
Evening Del Do these booster plugs i hear alot about do or don't they work Secondly if you are ever in Australia I'd be keen on going for a ride with you
Hi mate.. The booster plugs only apply to the later fuel injected bikes, and they do make a few small changes to the feel of the pull away and initial acceleration, but for the huge price tag, you'd need to be pretty unhappy with the factory performance to take the plunge... !
At last some common sense but then if that's an RSV then they are Rotax which is clever north Europeans and not money-grabbing Orientals... but better not go any further down that road...!
Ahh a doodad is similar to a doobrie :-) A plastic washer for the sidecase screws ? Smashing vid as allways, now lets grate some cheese onto toast, yum :-))
Hey Delboy I'm a big fan of your channel and had a quick question for you. I recently installed a pair of the British customs predator exhaust pipes on my 2012 T-100 and have ALOT of popping on de-acceleration. I had the bike remapped but it hasn't helped with the popping. I was wondering if a K&N might help with this annoying issue. I really don't want to pay $300 for a full airbox removal kit unless I absolutely have to. Thanks for all the vids and keep up the great work!
Hi mate, The popping is caused by the Air Injection system igniting the unspent gasses in the neck of the header pipes, its designed to burn off any last residue and create a clean exhaust emission....now when the factory pipes are fitted, they are so restrictive that they suppress any popping, but it still happens inside the pipes...when you fit open pipes, you just let it breath and the sound is heard. To stop (or massively reduce) the popping, you need to remove the Air Injection system, and that also means removing the Lambda sensors too, and make sure the bike is remapped to run correctly... there are many after market free maps that can accommodate this..some dealers can help with this depending on your local law allowance for tuning.. Hope that helps.. Del.
As always, great video :). Probably gonna install a K&N on my bike as well after I've fitted a new exhaust... great opportunity to get it fully remapped (or whatever you'd call it on carburetter bikes). I noticed that the videos are kinda weird looking lately (black bars on the top + bottom and sometimes the sides), and I've read some comments that you guys looked into it but couldn't find the issue. I wouldn't mind taking a look. If you can send me the footage that you upload to UA-cam and a little part that's raw of the camera, that way I can figure out where the problem is. Also, I noticed that the camera is struggling in low light... it doesn't get enough contrast. I'm pretty sure some subscribers wouldn't mind to pitch in a few $/€/£ in case you wanna get a new camera (I'd love to). I know you don't do it for money or other stuff, but I'm sure we really want to do something back for all the great videos! Btw, I'm not complaining about the videos, the content really is awesome. I just want to do something back and as an IT guy I hope to put some of my skills to good use for the channel. Just let me know what you think :).
Dealership rates for a mechanic to wash and dry a washable filter - I suspect this will be one of many reasons manaufacturers will use a disposable product. You'll need to watch out when you put it in for dealer service to get your book stamped that they don't put that one in the bin too.
Didn't really cover that Guy, but all you simply do is place the supplied sticker on the filter lid that clearly says 'K&N inside do not dispose of'... and also, not only would it be expensive at £70+ per hour to ask them to wash it, but tbh mate, I don't think they'd want to! It's something you do yourself at home before you present the bike for service and just tell them to leave it alone! I'm sure you'll get NO discount for them not having to change it, but you certainly won't be billed for it's replacement!
There's no doubt they make sense, even when moving a bike on. They're an indicator that the owner thinks about the care and maintenance of the bike and if one is fitted to a bike you're buying, then it's one less consumable you have to think about at a time when you should want to check the state of brake pads, brake fluid, plugs, fresh oil and filter, chain sprockets, tyre etc. These won't always be as you would want them to be, and personally I'd go through the lot replacing anything remotely worn. Only then would I be happy that the bike was sorted for my ownership. The things any conscientious seller should have done first, and if they claim to have done it, ask for receipts!
All good points Peter, I always call that a 'consumables make over'...even when I mentioned to ThreeX that the Hayabusa had a panel filter they were glad of that as it was due a service and it would save them £20!
Perfect vid Del. I've been following your channel for quite a while now. I always like those small common sense hints. Like the one with covering the frame before pulling out the filter. You pointed out that the engine would not need re-mapping if you only change one single element. BUT... You just recently changed your exhaust (now almost without baffles ;-)), didn't you? Will you do re-mapping after changing the air filter now?
Yes indeed Ray, I will be getting it re-mapped as I have changed the exhaust for an open one but if you're running a completely standard bike and just change the element then you should be able to run factory map or jetting... thanks for watching mate, much appreciated, ride safe, Del
Hi Del, i just went to check my air filter on my 2005 bonneville t100. Finding that the previous owner pulled, i believe,,the air box and placed 2 clamp on k&n,s. I cleaned them and noticed it says,oil before using. That's what I wanted ur opinion on. Personally I see no reason to oil, simply for rrason u gave. I figure dry fit is fine as well, but wanted the opinion of an expert. I've never used these clamp on type but seems logical. Another question. It looks to me what the dude did was, glue the original rubber boot to the air filter. Do you know if there is a filter with the proper size boot? Just ask because u do so much revamp on the Triumphs, maybe youd know. I guess I can measure the air intake to the carbs. Anyway, take care, ride safe. Thanks Del.
Hi Peter, I'm trying to visualise what you've got there, it sounds like a bit of a custom alteration, and there are some pretty cool parts available on the market now, so it would help to know what you've got as far as fitting and operating the best arrangement, drop me a line on email, perhaps chuck a couple of photos in and we can take it from there... email: delboysgarage@yahoo.com Cheers, Del
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del. Rather than try my hand at pics sending. One of your mates, The Man Cave, has a t100 build hes doing. The 4th segment is on removing the air box and installing clamp on k&Ms. Those are what I'm looking for, I believe. It seems that's what's been done to my 2005 t100. Thanks Del.
@@peterford9369 Hi again Peter, don't believe I know that Channel, but there are lots of great Triumph videos out there, so glad you found what you needed!
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del, I just thought you'd be interested. I'm actually just trying to find a couple of clamp on filters that fit my carbs. For a reasonable price. K&N, wants 50 bucks a piece for the ones that are now on it. And, not sure if they come with boots. Maybe I can call K&N. Thanks again Del. Take care.
I love the idea of a K&N air filter but I must admit I bought one for my last bike the kawasaki VN800B and was surprised that with the straight through pipes already fiited it ran like a bag of shit, I took it to the bike shop to see if they had any idea's and they told me that it would need to go on a dyno and more than likely need re-jetting, so I said well you'd better book me in then, only to be told that they don't do it, so I asked where the closest place to get it done was and it was sixty miles away, so out the K&N came, Oh well better look with this bike I suppose, lol, Sorry to whine at you Del, Didn't mean to, Ride Safe My Friend.
Hi Skeggy, that sounds to me like the typical no-nothing bullshit that you get from dealers who haven't got a phuqin' clue! There was absolutely no need for it to be Dyno run, what you did in replacing your filter to go with the pipes was effectively give it a 'stage 1' tune and the third stage of this three-stage process is to fit a dynajet kit to correct the fueling in the carbs... dynajet make kits for just about every bike through years of research they have already worked out what you need and supply it as a ready made kit for about £20.. shame these fuckwits didn't know this basic common knowledge and couldn't pass it on to you! Just goes to re-affirm my opinion of some of them!
Moonfleet41 Cheers Del, That's most appreciated, For warned is for Armed so to speak! I'll know better next time, I got the impression they didn't want to know because I hadn't bought the bike from them, I feel like I was right now bud, Thanks, TTFN.
Added a K&N filter to my Speed Triple, haven't noticed a difference in performance, but my wallet will hopefully have more coinage in it come the next service.
After all that work you didn't lightly spray K&N filter oil inside the filter before installing it. You must use the oil and you must apply it very lightly but covering all surfaces where the air comes in, Not the intake side.
Which is predictably short sighted of them because the sale of the filters makes them pennies, and the dealer/technician takes a few minutes to change it....but to add "washing and drying of air filter = 20minutes" to the service bill would make them far more money...but hey, when did you ever hear of a dealer using common sense...!!!!
I trust paper more for dusty conditions. I'll gladly keep using them as I ride the bike on gravel alot. it is scrambler after all....and who buys them from triumph anyways. far cheaper if you don't.
That's an odd notion as if every bike had one from the factory, then they'd sell 4 times as many and wouldn't need to sell them to us plebs as an aftermarket item, they also wouldn't have the expense of packaging and marketing every single one and sending them out to millions of shops round the world, they could just shop container loads straight to the factory....!
On the other hand, their markup on their product would be a lot less in order to sell to the factories. They still have to have sales representatives for each manufacturer to keep other competitors out. Marketing to the bike bikes reps. etc...I worked both the manufacturing and wholesale. Markups to retailers are a LOT more than to manufacturers. Overhead is about the same.
I bought one for the Tiger off ebay £39 Bargain!!!. not fitted it yet a timely reminder to get my arse in gear and get the job done, Its a tank off job but there are a few jobs i would like to do while its off Throttle Cable Adjustment, Lubricate the Stepper Motor and balance the Throttle Bodies so it will be worth it, probably do it over Christmas while having a day off the beer lol. Great Video as always Del very informative. RSMF Craig...
Nice one Craig, sounds like a fun day in the garage mate... but make sure you take the beer in there with you and why not take the camera too and show us the Tiger?! I love 'em! After all, they are the correct bike that Ewan Boorman and Charlie McGregor SHOULD HAVE gone round the world on... after all, they are British aren't they?! Cheers mate, ride safe, Del
Hi. I have spent my life teaching. You have a great sense of what someone needs to know and how you can show them. This s really very good.
Thank you Teresa, that is praise indeed, coming from a professional teacher... it's not always easy projecting a message simply to a camera, as you don't know who's watching, your viewers could be 6yrs old to 66yrs old, and we hear that they often are, and as you will know yourself, it helps a great deal with teaching anything, to be able to direct your demonstration within the frame of reference of your pupils, a primary school teacher does their job very differently to a university lecturer, but they're still both teaching, so we have to give a very broad and basic explanation , with the hope we don't patronise those who already know...! But we love doing it, and as you know, anything you have a passion for, you wan't to excel at .. thanks for watching, and appreciate your kind support, Del & Penny!
I love this guy. It feels like a wise man imparting fatherly knowledge when I watch these videos. I have a triumph street scrambler on order and its so great how I will have many instructional videos on how to DIY. Also very easy to listen to and not one bit confusing . Your a real stand up guy for doing this and I sincerely appreciate it.
Thank you Jacob, Congratulations on your street scrambler, i hope you enjoy it buddy..
Great info, I'm an old guy, new rider and am happy you put in the time and effort for this stuff.
Thanks for teaching me to care for my bike in a professional way (and without scratching the paint) your work habits match what I was taught when working on fighter aircraft in the Fleet Air Arm .... Professional bike mechanics would benefit from your enthusiastic information, which I am sure must keep many of us safer on the road ..... and thanks to the camera lady who you pay so well ....
+Graham Spink Hi Graham, now you've gone and reminded her she should be paid, and now that's gonna cost me lol ! ... thanks for your kind comments, I'm sure you agree there's no subsitute for doing something properly...!
Keep up the good work mate...I am a Walsall (Staffordshire born Australian aged 76) and deciding whether to invest in a Triumph Speed triple R or a BMW 800 ? ....(presently own two aging
Suzuki's .I am the youngest of three English born Aussies who burn around the Hills surrounding Perth in beautifull Western Australia state....More than twice as big as Texas.... You should check it out one day !!!
+Graham Spink We watched Henry Cole on TV doing one of his "Worlds greatest motorcycle rides" right along the west coast, it looks awesome, like a place on another planet....and yeah that came across....is very big indeed..lol
I bought a ten year old Buell to play with in my old age !!!....Best handling bike I've ever ridden, but need to replace the baffles to appease all the neighbours...
P pack off
Hi, I have a Bonneville T100 Black (2015) and have been following a few of your videos on Bonneville. I am surprised and quite happy at the same time that your videos are so clear, you know what common people without the knowledge like me are looking for and just by following your videos, I am inspired to do a few DIY mods on my Bonneville T100. Great Job and please do keep posting.
Hello there, oh my goodness, what a lovely message, thank you my friend... am glad we can inspire you, keep in touch and let us know how you get on with your projects... good luck! D&Px
Listen carefully: I am a certified PANIC MECHANIC. I overthink everything, forget what I just done, and end up screwing up everything. This video restored my confidence in myself, and I changed my air filter in under 10 minutes. THANK YOU!
And thanks for finally aiming the light at the bike. At first, I couldn’t see anything and was about to find another video when voila! Let there be light!
Thanks buddy, old video, early production equipment, and the white garage made metering really dark.. but im glad the video heklp you in the end..
I have a T100 and I have watched all of Delboys videos over the last couple of weeks I have learnt so much!
Thanks buddy, that's very kind of you, glad the videos have helped... it's only basic stuff and easy to get in to !
great video... just did this today on my scrambler... I did find out that my dealership doesn't use the rag protecting the frame rail trick... it's all banged up right in that spot... thanks again...
All too many dealers damage customer's bike, it's a sad indictment to the money grabbing, couldn't care less, state of the industry... well done mate!
Couldnt agree more, great upgrade. I use K&N and have for a long time, on my Harley its exposed so I always use the oil (slight coat) to bring the color back. BUT,,, the filter is taken out and washed monthly. Very good points you have made here....
Ride Safe....
New/returning rider with little or no mechanical background and I’m loving the information your are sharing. Thank you very much
Very best to you both in the new year
Thanks again and keep it up
Steve
Thank you Steve, very kind of you my friend, welcome back to the 'family', enjoy your bike, ride safe and have a happy new year!
Nice 1 Del, K&N is the way to go,love the sound a K&N filter gives out,and like you said it can be washed,I even had one on my 1984 KX,250,☺TC,n like always drive it like you stole it,greetings from a wet n cold Scotland.
Thanks fellah, I know what you mean... nothing like a good ol' wash and re-use! Just wish they would invent tyres you could do it with, as mine just keeping wearing out!
Thanks for the reply Del, its apriciated !,Rubber wearing oot,??? you been burning rubber.☺
Well done mate. You even make changing an air filter interesting! Lol Good to have Penny back on the camera!
Thanks Byron, it's great to have her back too, the editing takes half the time and not only that, we just up-graded the camera so from the next video onwards things should be much improved! Ride safe buddy, Del
Great information as always. I really do feel that the K&N and other similar products are the way to go. As a matter of fact, my wifey insists on all our vehicles and we just wash it in soapy water. Tried it with the oil and living in a desert like environment just made the filter harder to clean. Just a small tip I use is 3" painters tape to help against scratches on maintenances, but don't know if it would hold up against the "cheese grater." Thanks for the awesome info again.
Hey buddy, you've re-affirmed exactly my point... in dusty desert conditions on a long ride or tour your filter can just become blocked, the ability to take it out and bang it against the foot peg and carry on is essential... good call on the tape, anything will do that stops that filter scuffing your paint...
Thanks so much for all your hard work in filming these videos. I have the laptop next to my bike playing these videos, following your instructions step by step when playing with my bike. Keep up the great work and just wanted to say - thanks...!!!
+Wayne Nicholson Thanks Wayne, im glad the videos can help you out buddy, its good to hear that you're taking charge of your bike and doing things yourself.. take care and ride safe buddy.... all the best. Del.
I put a K&N in my Yamaha XJ6 and posted a 'how to' as well. Top Job mate.
Cheers mate, thought a bit about this video before I did it cos I think we've all done it at some time or another eh?!
Moonfleet41 I think that having a 'how to' for different models is great, the more help out there, the better IMHO.
Cheers Del, as a new Bonnie T120 owner, appreciated!
Congratulations on your new bike, glad to know the videos of help - ride safe mate...
I'm a big fan of K&N -the previous owner of my DRZ fitted one, but when I went to clean it I discovered they'd re-oiled it with something heavy like engine oil, and the thing was gummed up like treacle. One wash later and the performance difference was amazing!
When I got the S4 I slapped a K&N in her within the first week. Brilliant bit of kit, I don't know why manufacturers stick with paper filters, except for the financial aspect of course :o)
Well done mate, it's amazing what substances I've found soaking these filters, but honestly, you don't need anything... the wetter they are, the quicker they gunge up and I can't think there's much profit in selling you an air filter, not to mention the green aspect of sending them to landfill... after all, they charge you £12 for disposal of your old oil, so it's not like they aren't tuned it to recycling!
thanks for the great tips Delboy👌👍greetings from Norway
Welcome my friend, hope you're having a great weekend!
I always questioned oiling the filter and you confirmed my thoughts. Thanks!
Sure thing Jeff, it's just common sense eh? Dust sticks to an oily surface, so why turn your filter into a fly paper !
Thanks for the tips again Delboy. I wasn't sure if you needed to use that oil after washing the filter, glad you don't need to because it's no good to be washing oil down the drain either. I don't care if this is one of your oldest videos, it's great.
It's perfectly ok to run a K&N filter dry as it is to oil it, specially if you're in a dusty environment oiling it makes it like a fly paper, so if you have an oiled filter it will bung up extremely quickly , it's perfectly ok to run them dry, just because you're givven the oil doesn't mean you have to use it, after all, they don't oil the paper or foam ones do they...??!
Make u right on the k&n filters. Fitted them to all
unfortunately like ALL manufacturers "why sell you 1 when they can sell you 1 every 5000 miles", I've been away on holiday and your scrambler is looking sweet as m8, your pipes are looking loads better than when I first seen them and the black looks is killer.
Thanks mate, you are very kind, hope you had a good holiday! Thanks for watching, D&P
Great videos I personally don't think you're been commercial at all. Keep up the good work! Cheers
Cheers mate, I guess we've evolved a little since the early ramblings, but all things have to grow, thanks mate, Del
Dr. Delboy, another fine tutorial for proper maintenance ! Appreciate your point of view regarding long-term/lifetime filters vs. toss away factory versions...Best wishes from Atlanta, Georgia.
Hi Sam, good to hear from you, and thank you for your support... take care.. Del.
awesome channel, very very helpful. do i need a remap if i only remove snorkel and replace air filter like in the vid?
Hearing you talk about torque settings reminded me of something the instructor told me on a SwageLok course I did. He said there's a direct link between how much someone over tightens a nut or bolt and the amount of hair there is on their arse.
Hiya Del, yes I put a K&N in my 1200 mk1 Bandit, did a plug chop and really there was no difference between that and the HiFlow I fitted last time up. The trick is as you wisely state to not alter the airbox or use pods! (Horrible things!...)
Cheers Ted, totally agree mate, it was in a conversation with the now legendary 'Ray Deben' about 20yrs ago when I took my Z1000 into him and asked him to dyno it up with cone filters on and he told me the best thing to do was throw them away and re-fit the air box! Engine's must breather from a still air cavity to avoid the turbulence around cones!
orderdd k and n already
Great videos! Thank you. The instruction was top notch.
For a 2-stroke MX bike, it come with those foam filters that you have to oil. Do you need foam air-filter specific oil, or can any 30W type engine oil? Also, if you oil it too much, it probably won't breathe properly, but if you don't oil it enough, it probably won't filter as effectively. How to you find that balance between oiling enough, and not oiling too much.
Another informative vid better than a manual cheers del best regards mark
Thanks Mark, you're very kind mate...
I've been using K&N oil filters for two years now. The internals are superior to the big names, but my favorite is the 17mm nut spot welded onto the top of the canister style filters. It makes removing the old and and torquing the new easy. Ya I'm OCD about torqing everything. :)
I make you right on the k&n filters ive fitted them to all my bikes too. Some nice little tips in this vid. I cant stand people who hang on metal fixings going into plastic. Im sure the moron who owned my bandit before used a breaker bar to do the air box up. Another nice tip with the cloth around the frame too. I bet they dont take that much care at a main dealers. Great vid as always Del keep em coming. Lewis
i hope we are both still around to see that bike at 100,000 miles.
+padwah I do that much mileage in about 4 years....but with three bikes, it may take some time...lol
K&N fitted in the TDM, great simple improvement
Cheers buddy, wasn't sure whether it needed a video, but as is so often the case we often hear from people who have never heard of the thing, so why not share it! Been thinking about some ideas for the middle England meet next year, just keep coming up against trying to make the dates work!
Another great video Del
We had a debate on the XJR forum about the pro's and con's of fitting after market filter over the oem in the end i think it was something like a 60/40 split in favour of the after market,mainly because of the life time use rather than performance
I have always fitted K&N on my bikes,the XJR ran a bit lean according to the dyno so i was advised to lift the needles in the carbs one notch ,I must get it back on the dyno and see if it;s worked lol
oh and top tip about not using the oil on the K&N ,your theory make's a lot of sense mate
Sure thing mate, but don't over think it on the dyno... just do a PROPER plug colour check and that will reassure you of the mixture... ride at 4,000 rpm for about 3mins then hit the kill switch, pull in the clutch and coast to a halt, then pull a plug out... if it's Rich Tea biscuit coloured on the tip, it's perfect! cheers fellah, Del
Interesting video here about K&N filters.
ua-cam.com/video/sJ3L-E-ufYo/v-deo.html
Just done my air filter today same as your video but I fitted a piper x air filter and left the snorkel on
thanks for the demonstration ,, just got a this air filter today and a pair of toga Exhaust pipe and ready to install ！
drive safe for sure
Hi Hsuanhui, thankyou for watching...i hope your install goes well, take care.. Del.
Great video @Moonfleet41. Quick question, was there a reason why you didn't just leave out the snorkel when you were installing the new air filter in? I've read that if you remove the snorkel, it will further remove any restrictions to the airflow...allowing you to squeeze a bit more performance and make the bike sound more beastly? Your thoughts would be appreciated. thanks
Hi Ryan, what you have read is right, the snorkel and internal air baffle removal do make a tiny difference.. but the factory snorkel is bonded to the cover that holds the filter in place.. you cannot leave it off of the filter will fall out.. and to remove the snorkel means literally cutting it off the cover with a box knife and that still leaves a rough shape to the hole that needs shaping properly.. you can buy a replacement retaining cover for the filter that has no snorkel.. but its about £70 for what amounts to little more then plastic ring... maybe cannibalize a spare one from eBay.. but TBH, the small gains from removing it arent worth the trouble..
Thank you for your response - really appreciate your info. I see that you've used the cylindrical K&N filter for your scrambler. I understand that the filter for the Street Twin version is of the cassette type. Would you know if the concern for filter falling out if cutting the snorkel would still be applicable for the ST version? From what I read, the cassette filter sits flat inside the compartment. But point taken regarding cost vs reward in cutting out the snorkel portion and the supposed small gains obtained. thanks again!
Hi again Ryan, firstly I can't answer the question about the cassette filter being held in, but I can say that honestly mate, all that kind of malarky is pointless, it will not give you any more performance... the whole concept of it comes from long ago when Japanese manufacturers seemed to only get woefully poor return in means of horsepower from some quite big engines, my old GSX1100 Suzuki in the 80's made about 80hp brand new, and even £3000 spent on the engine, only made 110hp... (before the days of turbos)... but fast forward to modern Triumphs, they have become incredibly good at wringing all the power out of their engines, there truly is nothing being wasted on tardy tuning, what you get from your Street Twin, if you put it on a dyno, is probably 99% of what it's capable of, and that's great news when you buy a bike now cos you don't have to worry about trying to make it faster, nowadays if you want a faster bike, you have to buy one! If you speak to George Milburn at TEC Bike Parts, he has done some amazing research development work involving the cams on the new breed of Triumphs and what he's offering can actually create some proper bona fide meaningful horsepower, a kick in the pants you will actually notice in real time... but all that faffing about with air boxes, and air box eliminator kits, etc., is 100% for looks only mate... you get nothing meaningful from it, so don't waste your money or your time... The best way to achieve better performance on today's bikes is down to just removing weight and improving the quality of the tyres... heop that helps you mate ! Give George a ring and have a chat with him !
Thank you Moonfleet41, honest and incredibly useful response - really appreciate that! Again, I take your insights to heart as I'm no expert. I've seen the videos of the TEC cams and they do seem to add legitimate performance (with dyne results posted as proof). I think from my perspective, a quick, least intrusive and cost effective way to boost performance on a ST is to put in a high flow air filter and decat it. thanks again!
If you’ve done the AIS delete and add a high flow air filter do you need to remap after this?
@8:34"I imagine if you really want to be OCD, there is a torque setting for these"...3 Nm!!! LOL I have started the countdown on you for when you decide to carve that airbox up and really let the ol' girl breath! +1 on your attitude of why you do this mate...I do it for the same reasons too.
Ayup mate, you're gonna wait a long time for the air box mods cos I'm no gonna bother! Not only is it a bitch to get out, but I don't see the reason, there are practically no performance gains to be had from that alone and when you consider that even the 900 big bore kit only gives you a fraction more horse power, it's just not worth the grief... bikes always run better with air boxes, specially EFI motors... pipes, filter and AIS remove is all it's gonna be... ! The way the bike is so easy to throw around and handles so well, I'm actually chasing that rainbow instead... gonna deal with a rear shock upgrade shortly to eliminate the wallowing in bends and when it's tyre time, switch over to something softer... I've never used all the power yet, even on standard pipes, it has enough grunt for pissing off the traffic lol!
Good point on the EFI but there is a decent gain on the carb'd models. The butt dyno makes it a lot of fun too. It's easy to get them out...just need to undo the rear shock and accordion the bike up at the swingarm. I agree with the suspension...always a good investment especially with the stock set up on these bikes.
Nice video. Congrats from Brazil!!!
Delboy please have a video for throttle body cleaning on the bonneville
Hi Moonfleet 41,
I installed the d&d full system exhaust when it came straight out from the dealer. i'm wondering do i need to remap again if i put the k&n filter??
thanks
love you videos ive learned alot
Hi mate.....as long as you had i remapped when you fitted the D&D, then thats all you need to do... the filter wont make any difference, you dont have to remap at all for the filter even if its all standard.... ill bet it sounds great too... hope that helps... all the best, Del.
Thanks mate
That's a nice simple modification Del!! makes a big differemce doesn't it?? ... By the way, I saw that same guy here riding his Scrambler a couple of days ago. IDoesn't soind nearly as good as yours though!!
Ayup Jeff, thanks mate, certainly sounds a bit more 'dark side' now eh?! Looking forward to getting both bikes out for a little sound off in the open once this damn salt washes away!
The "dust" that sticks to the oil is meant to do that, that dirt is going on the oil instead of going into the engine.
Sorry mate, didn't make it clear, you can run K&N filters wet or dry... at no point does the dust go into the engine provided the filter is fitted correctly! One normally runs them wet as that's the initial idea, but running them dry in extreme dusty conditions can lead to a thick claggy build up that will block the filter... whereas if it's dry, it can drop to the bottom of the filter and allow it to still breathe and you can whip it out at the roadside on a long trip, such as through the desert etc., and just bang it out... you can't do that if it's all gummed up with oil...
hey man great stuff .. i just recently change my standards filter to a k& n on my t100 2006 model. and a new exhaust tec 2-1 .. so my question is do i need re jet? or do i leave my bike as it is.. with the new exhaust and the filter.. will damage somehow my bike if i don’t re jet or i just loose a bit power.. ?
The only thing i had to adjust on my FZ6S2 when i switched to KN filter was up the idle slightly. I checked to make sure installed flow direct right on it and it was right. Apart from than it nice easy mod, gain was noticible until i was main road where i could let her breath fully.
Next mod...progressive springs!
You should definitely oil the filter as It requires the oil to stop dirt particles from passing through the filter and into the air intake/engine. It will hardly affect mixture if you clean it regularly. The only time you don't use oil type air filters is with maf sensor style intakes as the oil passing through can damage the hot resistor wire. However the dry type filters used on those systems have a closer weave to reduce particle transfer.
The cotton gauze filters usually come oiled. I have ran a K&N on my truck since 2004. The MAF sensor is right behind it. If you don't go nuts with the oil, it will not cause any issue with the MAF sensor. The tighter weave on the paper filter is more restrictive. A properly maintained oil and gauze filter is actually less restrictive and filters down to a smaller particle size.
Great simple vid mate!
Hi, i'm contemplating between replacing the standard air filter to a K&N or getting the BC air box removal kit which comes with 2 K&N cone filters. Any advice on which should i go for would greatly be appreciated! Thanks
Hi, will it increase your petrol consumption after putting a K&N Air Filter?
Will the bike have increased power? Or any changes?
+Ian Sim Hi Ian, even after fitting the open pipes and remap, i didn't notice any more fuel consumption.. revs a lot more freely due to the free flowing nature of the filter and open pipes... but generally better all round.
Hi, in one of the later videos you recommended another filter because of the wider gaps in k&n. can you pls give link to that video. can't seem to find it
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/t_GlToZGEBs/v-deo.html It's a Simota filter, covered in the middle part of the video...
Thank you :)
Man thanks a lot for this video bro. One question will it remap on my FI 2014 scrambler if I have a aftermarket exhaust?? (D&D slip-on)
Have to admit, i am ripping the K&N out of my bandit and going back to paper, as for me my bandits running a tad lean with the filter and the stubby can. I think with stock jetting its either got to be one or the other, not both. Going back to OEM. :/ Good vid matey!
Sounds like a weird move John... you're actually gonna throttle it and choke up the air intake to rectify incorrect fueling... I've stock jetting in mine, 10" exhaust and a K&N panel and it runs fine... or have you been listening to Dave & Gerry again lol!
Very useful video! Just need your opinion on something, I've read reviews that DNA air filters give better performance on a thruxton as compared to K&N. Any opinion about this?
+Shaun Goh Hi Shaun. DNA are just a competitor to K&N, and i guess they will natually be compared with each other.... but i fail to see how any Air filter can improve performance...even on a Dyno you would struggle to see any difference other than "points of a percent" here or there in the graph... TBH buddy, the Thruxton (865cc) is a camel anyway, just like my Scrambler, you need to do an awful lot of modification to those motors to see any reall street performance.... if you havent tried the new 1200 bikes yet...then go test ride one and you give up bothering with expensive mods on your 865..! your money would be better spent on a top class handling package like some Ohlins shocks, and some sexy forks.... then some real chewy tyres and you'll be too busy having fun to notice the BHP...lol Hope that helps buddy... maybe not the reply you expected, but that how i see it.. Del.
+Moonfleet41 Thanks for your advice sir! My thruxton is only 6 months old thus I won't be swapping it for the thruxton 1200 I'm afraid. And yeah I agree it is a camel compared to my street triple lol. I've got Ohlins rear shocks and am looking around for some good Michelins or Pirellis that fit the stock rims (front rim is a pain to fir tires for). Did consider doing the air box removal but decided thats more of a cosmetic mod than anything. Will settle for a setup of Ohlins shocks, AI removal, air intake bellmouth with baffle removed and TORS exhausts. Do you think O2 sensor block off is necessary? I read that a remap is required for that and I'm not sure if Triumph's TORs map is compatible.
Am I right to assume that changing the air filter will end my thruxton's warranty? (I still have 3 years at my dealership) Thanks!
hi Del do you have any videos of cleaning used air filters, noticed my old GPX filter was lookin bit grubby but daft as it is ive never actually cleaned one, or is it better to buy a new one? Cheers
If it's a paper filter mate, which the standard ones would be, then they're disposable, so you'll have to replace it... but if somebody in the past has upgraded it to the K&N cloth type, they can be washed and there are different methods, depending on the filter... so you'd need to identify which one it is first mate, hope that helps!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks Del its actually a foam type so think i should be able to wash dry and reuse it cheers mate
@@SEANO1810 Awesome mate, that's money saved then.. the foam ones can get real greasy over time with fuel residue... so if it feels sticky to the touch, try a little degreaser through it first..even WD40 can dissolve any greasy residue.! but if it's just plain dirty, then use a big dollop of hand cleaning gel (like Carex or something), NOT washing up liquid.... mix the hand soap with warm water and make a small wash bath for it in the bottom of a bucket.. first, soak it for ten minutes, then gently agitate it to loosen all the dirt... and let it dry naturally NOT with an airline.! .. hope that helps mate, good luck with it.. Del.
@@Moonfleet41 cheers Del gives me something to tinker with during lockdown doing the old girl up a bit did brake pads all round yesterday tyres week before and generally polishing bits up, stay safe mate
@@SEANO1810 You too stay safe buddy, and enjoy your project.
Have you removed the airbox baffle? Seems like hell of a job but worth it, some say. Opinion?
+Turbojuugend Opinion????..
Re. the ari box baffle, I've not bothered, purely there for noise reduction and bears nothing on performance....
Hi I want to replace my Scrambler´s air filter with the K&N TB 9004, does it really increase power? I have use K&N filters in my cars but never on my bikes
Alright Del Another good video. i use the K n N myself, totally agree with you! dont see the point in buying a new filter every year when a K n N has paid for itself in 18 months and then you have a lifetime of use out of it. But im waffleing, i was wondering if you know of anyone that is looking to do their own project bandit? My 1996 600S is going up for sale soon and thought you may know of someone looking for a.........decent bike for a project lol anyway just thought i would put the Question out there. Cheers mate
I certainly do mate, not sure if it will be exact right bike for him, or if you are close enough geographically to deal, but get in touch with ...pgod1960.... he's currently looking for a Bandit to use as a bit of a project, so why not drop him a PM and see if you can help each other out! Good luck mate, Del
Moonfleet41 Hey Del thanks for that i will certainly drop a line. the geography might be a problem but hey its worth a shot lol thanks again dude :)
Evening Del Do these booster plugs i hear alot about do or don't they work Secondly if you are ever in Australia I'd be keen on going for a ride with you
Hi mate.. The booster plugs only apply to the later fuel injected bikes, and they do make a few small changes to the feel of the pull away and initial acceleration, but for the huge price tag, you'd need to be pretty unhappy with the factory performance to take the plunge... !
My Aprillia came with a washable foam filter from factory ;)
At last some common sense but then if that's an RSV then they are Rotax which is clever north Europeans and not money-grabbing Orientals... but better not go any further down that road...!
I ride a Kwak now and fitted a K&N ;)
Ahh a doodad is similar to a doobrie :-)
A plastic washer for the sidecase screws ?
Smashing vid as allways, now lets grate some cheese onto toast, yum :-))
No washer in place, the screw bottoms against a steel top hat that goes through a rubber bush... cheers mate, Del
Moonfleet41
sorry del, misunderstanding i ment use a plastic washer to undo the sidecase screws, no scratching of the new screws :-)
sorry del, misunderstanding i ment use a plastic washer to undo the sidecase screws, no scratching of the new screws :-)
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Oh i know what you mean...like a big tiddlywink....!!!! lol
Del, I like your way :)
Cheers
Thank you for your kind regards...... Take, care, Del.
Hey Delboy I'm a big fan of your channel and had a quick question for you. I recently installed a pair of the British customs predator exhaust pipes on my 2012 T-100 and have ALOT of popping on de-acceleration. I had the bike remapped but it hasn't helped with the popping. I was wondering if a K&N might help with this annoying issue. I really don't want to pay $300 for a full airbox removal kit unless I absolutely have to. Thanks for all the vids and keep up the great work!
Hi mate, The popping is caused by the Air Injection system igniting the unspent gasses in the neck of the header pipes, its designed to burn off any last residue and create a clean exhaust emission....now when the factory pipes are fitted, they are so restrictive that they suppress any popping, but it still happens inside the pipes...when you fit open pipes, you just let it breath and the sound is heard.
To stop (or massively reduce) the popping, you need to remove the Air Injection system, and that also means removing the Lambda sensors too, and make sure the bike is remapped to run correctly... there are many after market free maps that can accommodate this..some dealers can help with this depending on your local law allowance for tuning..
Hope that helps..
Del.
Thank you so much and keep up the great work! Cheers
As always, great video :). Probably gonna install a K&N on my bike as well after I've fitted a new exhaust... great opportunity to get it fully remapped (or whatever you'd call it on carburetter bikes).
I noticed that the videos are kinda weird looking lately (black bars on the top + bottom and sometimes the sides), and I've read some comments that you guys looked into it but couldn't find the issue. I wouldn't mind taking a look. If you can send me the footage that you upload to UA-cam and a little part that's raw of the camera, that way I can figure out where the problem is.
Also, I noticed that the camera is struggling in low light... it doesn't get enough contrast. I'm pretty sure some subscribers wouldn't mind to pitch in a few $/€/£ in case you wanna get a new camera (I'd love to). I know you don't do it for money or other stuff, but I'm sure we really want to do something back for all the great videos!
Btw, I'm not complaining about the videos, the content really is awesome. I just want to do something back and as an IT guy I hope to put some of my skills to good use for the channel. Just let me know what you think :).
Wow, that's great news! Look forward to the new videos :).
Dealership rates for a mechanic to wash and dry a washable filter - I suspect this will be one of many reasons manaufacturers will use a disposable product. You'll need to watch out when you put it in for dealer service to get your book stamped that they don't put that one in the bin too.
Didn't really cover that Guy, but all you simply do is place the supplied sticker on the filter lid that clearly says 'K&N inside do not dispose of'... and also, not only would it be expensive at £70+ per hour to ask them to wash it, but tbh mate, I don't think they'd want to! It's something you do yourself at home before you present the bike for service and just tell them to leave it alone! I'm sure you'll get NO discount for them not having to change it, but you certainly won't be billed for it's replacement!
There's no doubt they make sense, even when moving a bike on. They're an indicator that the owner thinks about the care and maintenance of the bike and if one is fitted to a bike you're buying, then it's one less consumable you have to think about at a time when you should want to check the state of brake pads, brake fluid, plugs, fresh oil and filter, chain sprockets, tyre etc. These won't always be as you would want them to be, and personally I'd go through the lot replacing anything remotely worn. Only then would I be happy that the bike was sorted for my ownership. The things any conscientious seller should have done first, and if they claim to have done it, ask for receipts!
All good points Peter, I always call that a 'consumables make over'...even when I mentioned to ThreeX that the Hayabusa had a panel filter they were glad of that as it was due a service and it would save them £20!
Perfect vid Del. I've been following your channel for quite a while now. I always like those small common sense hints. Like the one with covering the frame before pulling out the filter.
You pointed out that the engine would not need re-mapping if you only change one single element. BUT... You just recently changed your exhaust (now almost without baffles ;-)), didn't you? Will you do re-mapping after changing the air filter now?
Yes indeed Ray, I will be getting it re-mapped as I have changed the exhaust for an open one but if you're running a completely standard bike and just change the element then you should be able to run factory map or jetting... thanks for watching mate, much appreciated, ride safe, Del
The Cynic that I am would say its so you have to buy the manufacturers replacement filter every 5000 miles which I bet costs more than a K&N anyway.
Hi Del, i just went to check my air filter on my 2005 bonneville t100. Finding that the previous owner pulled, i believe,,the air box and placed 2 clamp on k&n,s.
I cleaned them and noticed it says,oil before using. That's what I wanted ur opinion on. Personally I see no reason to oil, simply for rrason u gave. I figure dry fit is fine as well, but wanted the opinion of an expert. I've never used these clamp on type but seems logical.
Another question. It looks to me what the dude did was, glue the original rubber boot to the air filter. Do you know if there is a filter with the proper size boot?
Just ask because u do so much revamp on the Triumphs, maybe youd know.
I guess I can measure the air intake to the carbs. Anyway, take care, ride safe. Thanks Del.
Hi Peter, I'm trying to visualise what you've got there, it sounds like a bit of a custom alteration, and there are some pretty cool parts available on the market now, so it would help to know what you've got as far as fitting and operating the best arrangement, drop me a line on email, perhaps chuck a couple of photos in and we can take it from there... email: delboysgarage@yahoo.com Cheers, Del
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del. Rather than try my hand at pics sending. One of your mates, The Man Cave, has a t100 build hes doing. The 4th segment is on removing the air box and installing clamp on k&Ms. Those are what I'm looking for, I believe. It seems that's what's been done to my 2005 t100. Thanks Del.
@@peterford9369 Hi again Peter, don't believe I know that Channel, but there are lots of great Triumph videos out there, so glad you found what you needed!
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del, I just thought you'd be interested. I'm actually just trying to find a couple of clamp on filters that fit my carbs. For a reasonable price. K&N, wants 50 bucks a piece for the ones that are now on it. And, not sure if they come with boots. Maybe I can call K&N. Thanks again Del. Take care.
You teach well. Thanks.
I love the idea of a K&N air filter but I must admit I bought one for my last bike the kawasaki VN800B and was surprised that with the straight through pipes already fiited it ran like a bag of shit, I took it to the bike shop to see if they had any idea's and they told me that it would need to go on a dyno and more than likely need re-jetting, so I said well you'd better book me in then, only to be told that they don't do it, so I asked where the closest place to get it done was and it was sixty miles away, so out the K&N came, Oh well better look with this bike I suppose, lol, Sorry to whine at you Del, Didn't mean to, Ride Safe My Friend.
Hi Skeggy, that sounds to me like the typical no-nothing bullshit that you get from dealers who haven't got a phuqin' clue! There was absolutely no need for it to be Dyno run, what you did in replacing your filter to go with the pipes was effectively give it a 'stage 1' tune and the third stage of this three-stage process is to fit a dynajet kit to correct the fueling in the carbs... dynajet make kits for just about every bike through years of research they have already worked out what you need and supply it as a ready made kit for about £20.. shame these fuckwits didn't know this basic common knowledge and couldn't pass it on to you! Just goes to re-affirm my opinion of some of them!
Moonfleet41 Cheers Del, That's most appreciated, For warned is for Armed so to speak! I'll know better next time, I got the impression they didn't want to know because I hadn't bought the bike from them, I feel like I was right now bud, Thanks, TTFN.
Added a K&N filter to my Speed Triple, haven't noticed a difference in performance, but my wallet will hopefully have more coinage in it come the next service.
+Red Thunder Hey Red, yeah, tey dont really add any power by themselves, but they will save you money at service time as you just wahs them..!
After all that work you didn't lightly spray K&N filter oil inside the filter before installing it. You must use the oil and you must apply it very lightly but covering all surfaces where the air comes in, Not the intake side.
throw-away filters brings money to the company! they will never change to washable filter.
Which is predictably short sighted of them because the sale of the filters makes them pennies, and the dealer/technician takes a few minutes to change it....but to add "washing and drying of air filter = 20minutes" to the service bill would make them far more money...but hey, when did you ever hear of a dealer using common sense...!!!!
be careful with the bolts mate, I overtightened one and it snapped off in the thread
Doh.. thanks for the headsup mate.
@@Moonfleet41 You make everything look easy Del
I trust paper more for dusty conditions. I'll gladly keep using them as I ride the bike on gravel alot. it is scrambler after all....and who buys them from triumph anyways. far cheaper if you don't.
Never mind just looked below my post. Thanks bro:-)
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THANK YOU man.
I think filter companies give money to the bike companies NOT to put them in so the filter companies sell more filters.
That's an odd notion as if every bike had one from the factory, then they'd sell 4 times as many and wouldn't need to sell them to us plebs as an aftermarket item, they also wouldn't have the expense of packaging and marketing every single one and sending them out to millions of shops round the world, they could just shop container loads straight to the factory....!
On the other hand, their markup on their product would be a lot less in order to sell to the factories. They still have to have sales representatives for each manufacturer to keep other competitors out. Marketing to the bike bikes reps. etc...I worked both the manufacturing and wholesale. Markups to retailers are a LOT more than to manufacturers. Overhead is about the same.
My 2017 T100 is a bit different. 🤷
I bought one for the Tiger off ebay £39 Bargain!!!.
not fitted it yet a timely reminder to get my arse in gear and get the job done, Its a tank off job but there are a few jobs i would like to do while its off Throttle Cable Adjustment, Lubricate the Stepper Motor and balance the Throttle Bodies so it will be worth it, probably do it over Christmas while having a day off the beer lol. Great Video as always Del very informative.
RSMF
Craig...
Nice one Craig, sounds like a fun day in the garage mate... but make sure you take the beer in there with you and why not take the camera too and show us the Tiger?! I love 'em! After all, they are the correct bike that Ewan Boorman and Charlie McGregor SHOULD HAVE gone round the world on... after all, they are British aren't they?! Cheers mate, ride safe, Del