@@aplum4218 more have been arrested as well. There is rumored to be a group. The list of arrests are on Fox 5 Atlanta, no names of anyone underage but the list is quite extensive. I am local and my kids are schooled in the county this occcured.
As a high school teacher of 13 years in the UK- I wouldn't trust a teenager with a staplegun
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you dont deserve to be a teacher. BTW i wouldnt trust a muslim with anything sharp in the uk, but since you let them in they should be allowed to have those things.
@@profphilbell2075 Unfortunately lobbyists and special interest seem to have some kind of "power" over our elected officials. We the people as Americans have figured it out. It's our representatives who have blood on their hands due to caving into Lobbyists and Special Interest.
@@TheDuqe Go back and look at Dianne Feinstein's gun control bill up for vote in April 2013 after Sandy hook to ban all semi-automatic firearms. Both sides, left and right were getting calls from constituents 8 to 1 against passing that gun control bill. This is a historical fact recorded in the senate records. The followed the will of "we the people" instead of feelings and emotion. To this day, the same support exists for the 2nd amendment. That my friend is democracy, the majority rules. It's not the "gun lobbyists" or the politicians' feelings or personal beliefs. We have constitutional rights and infringing on 1 will in the end infringe on all rights.
So the largest most powerful country in the world with the largest most powerful military in the world, protecting American interest all over the globe. For some reason, can’t keep our school children safe. Sounds like a priority issue to me. RIP, beautiful young people and teachers. So sad
@@redfoxsecurity3334a weapon built to kill humans. And that’s exactly what an AR-15 does. You want to hunt game? Get a repeater or a crossbow. You want home defense? Get a 12 gauge shotgun. You want personal defense? Get a Glock 17. No body needs an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine. They are built to kill as many people as possible.
@@thinkharder9332 Wrong, wrong and wrong again. How many shots does a repeater hold? 10 maximum? Crossbows shoot one at a time. AR-15s hold 30 rounds. They are built to kill as many people as possible. If you need 30 rounds to hunt then you are the worst hunter of all time and you should go find a grocery store. The fact is, AR-15s are a mass shooters choice of weapon because they hold the most rounds, have high power and are accurate. They are human killing machines. You just wrote a bunch of nonsense trying to justify anyone needing an AR-15. No you don’t it’s a big toy for adults. A toy that mass kills human beings. Did you know fire arm deaths are now the leading cause of death for kids? More kids die from guns than from car accidents… and you are trying to justify it. Sickening.
@@thinkharder9332 We are talking about 2024 and you are bringing up Thomas Jefferson. This is why we can’t have a real conversation with people like you. There’s no way you can explain your way around this. The AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass shooters. You cannot kill people at the same rate with a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle. You are making excuses for these unnecessary weapons. Tell me, why do you need an AR-15? And if you say because of a possible Civil War, you have just proven my point because the AR-15 is a human killing machine.
I am a retired mental health worker and it goes without saying that people with mental health issues should not have access to guns at all. However, the mere fact that people are arguing for the right to own an assault rifle is pure insanity in and of itself, so those who defend having the right to own an assault rifle should lose their right to have guns too. Why didn't the FBI do anything about this a year ago, well, they love guns, the father of this adolescent loved guns, and clearly the adolescent, himself, loved guns. Once again, that's crazy and those people too should not be allowed to have guns either. This is all beyond defending in anyway. Ban assault rifles. Period.
@johnmichaeloneal8231 You people are so ignorant it's not even funny!! You say ban "assault rifles" because you're totally clueless and all you do is listen to other idiots. I'm 100% positive you haven't done any real research on your own! Otherwise, you wouldn't make such ridiculous statements. Rifles in general... Meaning AR-15s and every other similar rifle combined are only responsible for about 5% of all gun related homicides!!! Not allll homicides.... Gun related homicides!!! Meaning, that's not including any of the other weapons used in murders. To have this push on banning these guns is a political stunt the politicians cooked up to deceive their voters into doing just what every idiot here, who hasn't done any of their own research, into believing is the biggest problem. Children continue to get murdered because you fools care more about playing politics than you do, finding real solutions to the real problems! You should all be embarrassed you've given such a serious issue such little research.
I am a US Marine Corps veteran whose weapon of choice is the M-16A2 which I was trained on. I qualified as a sharpshooter while I was in the service. But that was for a purpose. It was to protect my country from (as my oath stated) "all enemies foreign and domestic" That's it. Assault weapons, machine guns, grenade launchers, etc belong ONLY in the hands of the military and law enforcement PERIOD. They receive formal training on how and when to use them. I agree 100% with Cenk. There is no need for the ordinary citizen to own any assault style weapons.
@@CaptainSaltyOcean You are correct I do not get to dictate laws as I am not a lawmaker nor am I in a position to do so. This is my opinion. But, there is no justifiable reason why a regular citizen wants to own a military-style weapon. There are other rifles and guns alvailable. Why a military weapon???? Unless your intentions are sinister.
We in Australia, can’t understand how Americans seem to love their guns more than they care about the safety of their children. The very thought that your child might be murdered at school never needs to cross the mind of Australian parents. For the sake of your children, tighten your gun laws. Guns should be kept at the gun club, not at home unless you need them for your job.
@@savageboxing1402 Yes I know. Your precious second amendment has allowed for 384 mass shootings this year alone. We have not had such a thing for 40 years. Losing assault weapons will make a good start for your country.
@@samsciascia4004 You would not have criminals with such easy access to guns in the first place. Tens of thousands more innocent people die by guns in America than are saved by guns.
@@profphilbell2075 Brazil has gun control and a massive number of murders by....guns. Wayyy more than in the US. Gun control = only the bad guys have guns because THEY ARE OUTLAWS
This goes back to alot of ppl's point. Guns are still too easy to get. You can't tell me dad, didn't know son was a bit unstable. And you gonna give someone like that a weapon? smh
As a gun owner I support certification and registration of all gun owners and their guns. The Constitution calls for a "well regulated militia" not gun anarchy.
...the constitution also supported gun ownership when guns (whether long rifles or handguns) could only fire one projectile at a time before reloading as compared to today's handguns - 6 to 22 available shots or the favored assault rifles that carry a magazine with 30 or more shots ....
@@ryanhill8886 I 100% agree that the "founding fathers" would think this is absolutely nuts and the constitution should be molded and shaped based on society today. Realistically I just don't know if there's a real solution at this point. I don't know anymore...
@@chuckgamble5696 - Yes, the Constitution should be a "living" document to adapt to the world today, but the SCOTUS should be the remedy. The founders are rolling in their graves by the fact the gun lobby has bought one of the 3 branches of the Gov't.
@@chuckgamble5696 Only the 2nd amendment gets so many restrictions. Not even the first amendment gets so many restrictions. That’s like saying we need to go back to sending letters to each other writing with a feather quill in order to communicate 😂😂
So what. It’s not the FBIs fault. They did investigate. They can’t do anything if there’s not a crime. It’s still the access to guns. The access to the AR15. It’s still our failure to do anything about the guns. Guns kill. People holding those guns are responsible but guns are the problem.
The FBI told the local cops who visited them. Listen to the audio transcripts and then let me know if that cop did enough. His dad was literally admitting the kid had access to his guns & had countless issues at his middle school. The cop was just there to tick boxes & wanted to get home as it was 10pm on a Friday. Whole thing was a big red flag yet the cop believed the kids most basic lies that he was hacked, despite all other parts of the story lining up.
As someone who lives in Europe it blows my mind that kids in America have to go through what to do in preparation for a possible shooting in their school.
I am glad that the father was arrested. He and his son were questioned last year by the FBI and then the father turns around after that and buys his kid a gun. The father basically told his son that it was open season. I am glad they are both behind bars.
The kids dad should be prosecuted. The FBI interview should have been a massive red flag. He should have locked up the guns. Dad is partially responsible.
That’s a 9th or 10th grader, folks. Barely out of middle school. With a weapon of war. In the hands of a child. What are we doing by doing nothing?Same 💩 different day.
@@jeannieves6275 'cause he broke his Legos and daddy refused to buy the Barbies that he ask for at Christmas. Daddy said " learn to be a man and have this gun".
My parents had guns when I was kid. They weren’t locked up. I never messed with them because my family didn’t idolize them and make them an example of strength. It wasn’t a portion of our personality. My dad taught me to shoot with a bow and arrow first and showed me to be careful because all life is precious and it’s our responsibility to protect as much as possible.
People like you could have a bazooka and I would sleep like a baby.. the right has to acknowledge that assault weapons are a problem and the left has to acknowledge that it is easy to build an AR15 , so what do we do because unfortunately most family are not as mentally stable as yours !! I do support your post whole heartedly though
You were very lucky. Most kids didn't have parents like yours growing up. The dysfunctional family the alleged shooter was brought up in. Is probably more common than most people suspect.
Why are americans blaming the FBI when it is the american civilians who support "the right to bare arms ,second amendment laws" to own a gun and it isnt just one gun, they need to own 20 different types of guns, hunting gun,pistol , silencer, semi automatic, sniper gun in their homes because they beleive that some middle eastern terrorist or some immigrant will invade their home, just like this woman in this video is carrying on about. There are 42 million adolescents and 74 million children in USA . Do the american people think that for each child and person who has a gun in their home that the FBI will be standing right behind 74 million childrens back making sure to stop that child from shooting anyone , because 42 million adults keep crying that they have the right the right to bare arms and own a gun ? If the 42 million adults in USA grew a brain and stopped being so selfish and stopped pushing the government to allow the adults to own a gun by crying that they have a right to bare arms, and it is clearly obvious that the 42 million adults are unable to own a gun safely, maybe there wouldnt be 384 mass shootings in the year of 2024 alone. The reason why all these shootings are happening is because of GUNS. I dont understand why this is so difficult for americans to realise
My dad taught me from a very young age how to handle guns and that they weren't toys, but were designed and built to kill. They weren't built for fun, they were for killing and to never point at anyone or anything you didn't want to kill. Even if you think it's empty, he drilled into our heads "there's no such thing as an unloaded gun".
I live in the UK and its gotten to the point where we don't even feel sorry for you guys anymore. These stories have way less impact on us than they did a few years ago because we know you are choosing it.
100% false. Stop it bro. Nobody cares that you’re black. And you know damn well that has never happened. Is your brain sezing up or do you just believe all the lies that you are being told from the left?
@@scifisoldier The gun control laws are so week that you could tell a principal of a grammar school minute by minute detailed list of actions of how you would accurately shoot every student, every day for a year, and you would never get arrested , never have your guns taken away, because of your freedom of speech. Every damn thing is a "second amendment infringement" for these nuts. Saying the word gun in a threatening tone is gun control of these fools.
Ok well most people don't realize what the actual Second Amendment says and means it says a well-regulated militia we already have a well-regulated militia and that is the National Guard
@@JustSita5000 And they also wrote that amendment while they were still at strife with the UK. And as of now, I don't think that's King Charles's number one priority to reconquer the United States...
@@JustSita5000 and to think that many British folk regret leaving the EU... Well, you lose some, you win some, but sadly it doesn't work 100% of the time.
School shootings, 200 people a day dying from Fentanyl over doses, human trafficking etc. America is in moral decay, praying we can regain a Godly way of living. The level of hatred is very palpable. We are not seeing each other as valuable.
More arrested. I am local and over a dozen are being charged with terroristic threats and double that number have been taken into custody. Fear is great and my son said police are lined up around the school when the bus is pulling in. The other arrests I found on Fox 5 Atlanta and there is supposedly a group with a “list”
On top of social media, is it any surprise that US children have such poor mental health?? Here in the UK we haven't had a school shooting since the 90s. We don't have active shooter drills (you are likely the only country that has them). We have troubled children here like any other country, but what we don't have is easy access to guns. I would hate to have to send my children to school and worry about them getting shot while they are there. How can you just let this happen without changing your gun laws?? It is beyond sick...
Why can't the parents go to jail along with the shooter? Unsupervised possession of the weapon. Perhaps other parents will think about consequences for themselves.
the main reason I'm still alive today is because I couldn't get a gun when I was going through puberty. Puberty made everything the end of the world, and I have no idea how I survived other than I didn't have access to a gun, any gun with bullets would have sufficed.
@@josephwinder6878 I'm Canadian so on the outside looking in its the US gun culture I find bizarre. We have guns up here but everyone isn't paranoid and think they need them all the time.
The parents should have took away all access to those guns after cops came to the house last year about the threats. Parents of the 14 year old should be seriously held accountable for what their son did. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
The dad has been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter and child abuse. He purchased the gun for Colt knowing he had been questioned last year because of reports that he was making online threats.
yes, report was the dad bought him the gun as a gift, the dad is now arrested, and he deserves jail time. After the son made threat against the school, for the dad to not take away the gun made him culpable for what happened.
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He wasnt a black kid with a funny hairstyle ,so not a ' threat ' .
As a person who was shot as a kid with her grandfather's hunting rifle, I believe people should have the right to protect themselves from home invaders, but also have gun safety precautions in effect. #KeepGunsAwayFromMinors
I'm brazilian and I remember Columbine with sadness. It's so frustrating to see that things never change in USA. I remember they blaming Doom witch is a nice videogame instead to putting real laws to protect students as a priority
I had the alcoholic neighbor that was teaching 8 year old boy and 6 year old girl to shoot guns. He was a lunatic, his wife too. I’m sure they will be in headlines one day.
To ban commonplace firearms and require those owned to be locked and put in another location? How on earth are you supposed to be able to utilize arms for self defense if they’re locked in a separate building than your home?
@@DireAvenger001 That's the thing, assault style weapons shouldn't be commonplace to begin with. You want self defense? All you need is a pistol using pistol calibers. As for hunting, you don't need anything more than a five round capacity bolt action rifle. Furthermore, I'm saying this as an owner of multiple AR-15 and high capacity rifles
@@gayfrog68 The gangs know how to sink the blade (knife, machete, or Samurai sword) into the heart. Do a little research on the topic, it will shock you. Heck, listen to a few UK drill tracks and you'll get it straight from the horse's mouth... brev.
I'm from Australia which is always brought up with mass shootings. I have family that go pistol shooting every fortnight (pistols and ammunition stored at the range) and on hunting trips (rifles and shot guns stored at home in separate safes than the ammunition) who are licensed and inspected yearly. This is responsible gun culture. It is also very rare for any criminals to have guns because they are so rare which makes them so expensive that they can't get them. A street pistol would start at $5000 as rare but able to be imported legally before going black market and an AR would start at $30000 because they only arrive in shipments of cocaine. It's the law of supply and demand. Unfortunately the USA never restricted supply so you are now in a hole so deep there is no way to climb out.
Prepositioned by associates. It is illegal for non-U.S. citizens to possess firearms. A federal judge ruled on this last week. The 2A only applies to U.S. citizens.
Still need a gun in the home for protection, instead of running off to the redbox at 7-11. She's right about that. What a crazy idea. This is why Cenk would have been a clown president.😅
It is not often that I completely agree with Cenk, but he is spot on with this one. He very well stated my personal frustration with our system right now. Not even sure how we can fix this anymore, not with the mental attitude of the gun owners. It will take something really major to get America to wake up. And the fact that THEIR KIDS are dying is NOT enough to get people to grasp this is stupid is honestly both heartbreaking and terrifying.
How Can We Even Claim That We Care About Our Children's Safety When We Have Another Mass Shooting And We Don't Even Adress The Gun Violence They Face Every Day? We Want To Ban Books Instead Of Keeping Our Kids Safe. The F.B.I Knew This Could Happen And They Didn't Take It Seriously. They Just Don't Care, That's Has To Change. We Need To Do Anything We Can To Protect Our Children!😢
It popped into my head when Cenk said that shooter father should be arrested that a parent of an underage shooter who neglected the safety of the weapons be charged with the same charges as the shooter. So, we need a nationwide law to enact to this effect.
I think the FBI should've dug a bit deeper, maybe questioned the teachers what the kid's life was like at school. But the father also needs to be held accountable.
This kid was at the school for one and half days......he was new.....I don't think he was bullied that much....but I guess we will find out in the dec 4th
@@adriannaquirarte i say that not from this incident only , but from the majority mass shooters in America for the past decades , it’s obvious bullying on them , and they mentioned alot from his father and others he was bullied, but maybe he revenged in his new school, as against bullies in general.
I grew up going every summer (80’s-90’s). Took my own kids when young. But the day Trump got elected, I told them we won’t be going as long as Trump was potus. But he made the US such a dumpster fire I’m not interested in stepping foot there anymore.
in my country guns are totally banned and owning one gets life inprisonment, Using it to commit crime leads to death penalty, we only have murders committed using knives and parangs here
well...if they make a creditable threat you can...like if the kid had easy access to guns then they could have...thing is, the local police contacted the family, and talked with the kid and father, and they determined that all the guns were locked up correctly...thats why the kid didnt get arrested 1 year ago...we need armed guards
"Well regulated militia". You as an individual are not part of a militia. The 2nd ammendment was put together as a means for local communities to organize self defense and policing in a newly developing country where there were hostile indigenous groups, wild animals, lack of law enforcement, and a hostile foreign power. It was never intended to be any rando can pick up a gun and walk around with it without questions, and it was conceived in a time where guns were 1000x less deadly and took time to reload and weren't as accurate.
The criteria for owning guns in the US is crazy. It should be first assumed all individuals are mentally ill, or can be easily be pushed that way by any unforeseen circumstances affecting them.
You should say "assault style weapons" otherwise you'll get jumped by the gun toting right with,"YoU dOn'T kNoW wHaT aSsAuLt wEaPoNs ArE". The actual definition of assault rifle includes a fully automatic function. Which 95% of assault style weapons in the US don't have.
The father has been arrested. We need to start holding these parents accountable.
Agree
May 2023: His kid with known school issues gets questioned over threats by FBI.
Dec 2023: His dad buys him his own gun as a xmas present.
Dad the Trumper, who despises public school “indoctrination” and wants gub’ment out of our lives, blames school & gub’ment failure.
@@aplum4218 more have been arrested as well. There is rumored to be a group. The list of arrests are on Fox 5 Atlanta, no names of anyone underage but the list is quite extensive. I am local and my kids are schooled in the county this occcured.
As a high school teacher of 13 years in the UK- I wouldn't trust a teenager with a staplegun
you dont deserve to be a teacher. BTW i wouldnt trust a muslim with anything sharp in the uk, but since you let them in they should be allowed to have those things.
Australia banned guns and we don’t have the issues America has.
You guys are on an island
I think pressing charges on parents will make a huge difference
Agreed that is another view point to consider. How does a parent not know that their child needs mental health help?
@@TheDuqe You are correct. Any decent parent knows if their kid is a screw up. Dad sounds like an idiot.
@@rafaelreyes711 not really. This shooting was 3 or 4:days ago. Another school shooting just happened 3 hours ago in Maryland.
Really isn't much of a country when kids are not safe at school.
You would think Americans could figure that out.
Might even call it a chit hole.
@@profphilbell2075 Unfortunately lobbyists and special interest seem to have some kind of "power" over our elected officials. We the people as Americans have figured it out. It's our representatives who have blood on their hands due to caving into Lobbyists and Special Interest.
@@TheDuqe Go back and look at Dianne Feinstein's gun control bill up for vote in April 2013 after Sandy hook to ban all semi-automatic firearms. Both sides, left and right were getting calls from constituents 8 to 1 against passing that gun control bill. This is a historical fact recorded in the senate records. The followed the will of "we the people" instead of feelings and emotion. To this day, the same support exists for the 2nd amendment. That my friend is democracy, the majority rules. It's not the "gun lobbyists" or the politicians' feelings or personal beliefs. We have constitutional rights and infringing on 1 will in the end infringe on all rights.
So the largest most powerful country in the world with the largest most powerful military in the world, protecting American interest all over the globe. For some reason, can’t keep our school children safe. Sounds like a priority issue to me.
RIP, beautiful young people and teachers. So sad
Agree...This is sad
Update: Shooters Dad was arrested and charged with the death of the 4 after he punched the AR for his son.
Punched?
@@PWB69purchased
@@PWB69purchased. Come on you don't speak typo?
@@cattibingo no
@@josephwinder6878 Nah. I ain’t loose like that.
Sickening that our schools have to have a "active shooter button" in the classrooms 😢
Exactly. Vote for the people who want strong gun laws
Our schools have beaded curtains on the open doors to protect against mosquitoes - cos that is the biggest threat the kids face.
@@piccalillipit9211 precisely!
Why on earth would civilians need assault weapons? I just cannot understand the gun culture in the US. It is insane,
Define assault weapon, please 😹
@@redfoxsecurity3334a weapon built to kill humans. And that’s exactly what an AR-15 does.
You want to hunt game? Get a repeater or a crossbow. You want home defense? Get a 12 gauge shotgun. You want personal defense? Get a Glock 17. No body needs an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine. They are built to kill as many people as possible.
@@berenicepaulse-lemba4872 what’s an assault weapon? Is a baseball bat an assault weapon?
@@thinkharder9332 Wrong, wrong and wrong again. How many shots does a repeater hold? 10 maximum? Crossbows shoot one at a time. AR-15s hold 30 rounds. They are built to kill as many people as possible.
If you need 30 rounds to hunt then you are the worst hunter of all time and you should go find a grocery store.
The fact is, AR-15s are a mass shooters choice of weapon because they hold the most rounds, have high power and are accurate. They are human killing machines.
You just wrote a bunch of nonsense trying to justify anyone needing an AR-15. No you don’t it’s a big toy for adults. A toy that mass kills human beings. Did you know fire arm deaths are now the leading cause of death for kids? More kids die from guns than from car accidents… and you are trying to justify it. Sickening.
@@thinkharder9332 We are talking about 2024 and you are bringing up Thomas Jefferson. This is why we can’t have a real conversation with people like you.
There’s no way you can explain your way around this. The AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass shooters. You cannot kill people at the same rate with a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle. You are making excuses for these unnecessary weapons.
Tell me, why do you need an AR-15? And if you say because of a possible Civil War, you have just proven my point because the AR-15 is a human killing machine.
The father should be held accountable
@@cowgirl1163 he was arrested this evening.
@@whitmeister1190 along with a whole list of others. It’s on fox5atlanta. I am local and in the county so fear is very high right now.
I am a retired mental health worker and it goes without saying that people with mental health issues should not have access to guns at all. However, the mere fact that people are arguing for the right to own an assault rifle is pure insanity in and of itself, so those who defend having the right to own an assault rifle should lose their right to have guns too. Why didn't the FBI do anything about this a year ago, well, they love guns, the father of this adolescent loved guns, and clearly the adolescent, himself, loved guns. Once again, that's crazy and those people too should not be allowed to have guns either. This is all beyond defending in anyway. Ban assault rifles. Period.
@@johnmichaeloneal8231 I completely agree. They should not have access to guns.
What's an "assault rifle" ?
@johnmichaeloneal8231 You people are so ignorant it's not even funny!! You say ban "assault rifles" because you're totally clueless and all you do is listen to other idiots. I'm 100% positive you haven't done any real research on your own! Otherwise, you wouldn't make such ridiculous statements. Rifles in general... Meaning AR-15s and every other similar rifle combined are only responsible for about 5% of all gun related homicides!!! Not allll homicides.... Gun related homicides!!! Meaning, that's not including any of the other weapons used in murders. To have this push on banning these guns is a political stunt the politicians cooked up to deceive their voters into doing just what every idiot here, who hasn't done any of their own research, into believing is the biggest problem. Children continue to get murdered because you fools care more about playing politics than you do, finding real solutions to the real problems! You should all be embarrassed you've given such a serious issue such little research.
@@HomeBrewAudioNut A weapon designed to kill many people in a few seconds.
@@HomeBrewAudioNut the term has been used since world war 2. Maybe do a little research. It’s out there
I am a US Marine Corps veteran whose weapon of choice is the M-16A2 which I was trained on. I qualified as a sharpshooter while I was in the service. But that was for a purpose. It was to protect my country from (as my oath stated) "all enemies foreign and domestic" That's it. Assault weapons, machine guns, grenade launchers, etc belong ONLY in the hands of the military and law enforcement PERIOD. They receive formal training on how and when to use them. I agree 100% with Cenk. There is no need for the ordinary citizen to own any assault style weapons.
thank you for your service
@@WTC104 You're Welcome
@TheDuqe well go to cenk's country get out of here
@@TheDuqe no “PERIOD” anything because you do not get to dictate laws to anyone. You get to vote like the rest of us.
@@CaptainSaltyOcean You are correct I do not get to dictate laws as I am not a lawmaker nor am I in a position to do so. This is my opinion. But, there is no justifiable reason why a regular citizen wants to own a military-style weapon. There are other rifles and guns alvailable. Why a military weapon???? Unless your intentions are sinister.
Now it turns out that Dad gave the kid the gun after the FBI brought the kid in for questioning. Talk about clueless parenting
We in Australia, can’t understand how Americans seem to love their guns more than they care about the safety of their children. The very thought that your child might be murdered at school never needs to cross the mind of Australian parents. For the sake of your children, tighten your gun laws. Guns should be kept at the gun club, not at home unless you need them for your job.
@@profphilbell2075 Owing firearms is constitutional protected right in the US. In your country there’s no 2nd amendment.
Tell that to people living in high crime areas. Should they stay in a fetal position until officer friendly gets there?
@@savageboxing1402 Yes I know. Your precious second amendment has allowed for 384 mass shootings this year alone. We have not had such a thing for 40 years. Losing assault weapons will make a good start for your country.
@@samsciascia4004 You would not have criminals with such easy access to guns in the first place. Tens of thousands more innocent people die by guns in America than are saved by guns.
@@profphilbell2075 Brazil has gun control and a massive number of murders by....guns. Wayyy more than in the US. Gun control = only the bad guys have guns because THEY ARE OUTLAWS
He got the gun from his (republican) father AFTER the threats were made. It was a Christmas gift. Go dad. Now you both go to prison.
This goes back to alot of ppl's point. Guns are still too easy to get. You can't tell me dad, didn't know son was a bit unstable. And you gonna give someone like that a weapon? smh
As a gun owner I support certification and registration of all gun owners and their guns. The Constitution calls for a "well regulated militia" not gun anarchy.
1000%
...the constitution also supported gun ownership when guns (whether long rifles or handguns) could only fire one projectile at a time before reloading as compared to today's handguns - 6 to 22 available shots or the favored assault rifles that carry a magazine with 30 or more shots ....
@@ryanhill8886 I 100% agree that the "founding fathers" would think this is absolutely nuts and the constitution should be molded and shaped based on society today. Realistically I just don't know if there's a real solution at this point. I don't know anymore...
@@chuckgamble5696 - Yes, the Constitution should be a "living" document to adapt to the world today, but the SCOTUS should be the remedy. The founders are rolling in their graves by the fact the gun lobby has bought one of the 3 branches of the Gov't.
@@chuckgamble5696 Only the 2nd amendment gets so many restrictions. Not even the first amendment gets so many restrictions. That’s like saying we need to go back to sending letters to each other writing with a feather quill in order to communicate 😂😂
So what. It’s not the FBIs fault. They did investigate. They can’t do anything if there’s not a crime. It’s still the access to guns. The access to the AR15. It’s still our failure to do anything about the guns. Guns kill. People holding those guns are responsible but guns are the problem.
Making a terroristic threat is a crime. However, I agree with the "guns are the problem" sentiment.
The FBI told the local cops who visited them. Listen to the audio transcripts and then let me know if that cop did enough. His dad was literally admitting the kid had access to his guns & had countless issues at his middle school. The cop was just there to tick boxes & wanted to get home as it was 10pm on a Friday. Whole thing was a big red flag yet the cop believed the kids most basic lies that he was hacked, despite all other parts of the story lining up.
I hope his father is prosecuted. He clearly did not do anything to address his son's mental health issues.
he's been charged
Hes in jail with no bail. Charged with second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter
Clarence Thomas says there's no problem because 14 year olds in 1785 could carry muskets .
As someone who lives in Europe it blows my mind that kids in America have to go through what to do in preparation for a possible shooting in their school.
I am glad that the father was arrested. He and his son were questioned last year by the FBI and then the father turns around after that and buys his kid a gun. The father basically told his son that it was open season. I am glad they are both behind bars.
The kids dad should be prosecuted. The FBI interview should have been a massive red flag. He should have locked up the guns. Dad is partially responsible.
he also bought him the AR for Xmas. More than partially responsible
They arrested the father. Apparently he bought the kid the gun after the threats smfh
The Shooter's dad got arrested today. Parents should be help responisble.
When are they going to arrest Adam Lanza's mother?
F the NRA
@@shellylogan5594 The NRA does nothing for gun rights or gun owners
That’s a 9th or 10th grader, folks. Barely out of middle school. With a weapon of war. In the hands of a child. What are we doing by doing nothing?Same 💩 different day.
Why give a child a weapon of war
He didn’t have a weapon of war tho
Throughout Human history bladed impliments/weapons have been used as weapons in wars, far more so than firearms.
We don't live in medieval time anymore guns are preferred over swords unless you want to go back to the year 792@@plipogamez3173
well war is going to happen one day, as they say war never changes.
@@jeannieves6275 'cause he broke his Legos and daddy refused to buy the Barbies that he ask for at Christmas. Daddy said " learn to be a man and have this gun".
My parents had guns when I was kid. They weren’t locked up. I never messed with them because my family didn’t idolize them and make them an example of strength. It wasn’t a portion of our personality. My dad taught me to shoot with a bow and arrow first and showed me to be careful because all life is precious and it’s our responsibility to protect as much as possible.
People like you could have a bazooka and I would sleep like a baby.. the right has to acknowledge that assault weapons are a problem and the left has to acknowledge that it is easy to build an AR15 , so what do we do because unfortunately most family are not as mentally stable as yours !! I do support your post whole heartedly though
You were very lucky. Most kids didn't have parents like yours growing up. The dysfunctional family the alleged shooter was brought up in. Is probably more common than most people suspect.
The lack of gun laws that makes assault weapons available to the public is sheer madness.
Image you and your family's safety at the whim and mood of a teenager with an AR15 - sheer madness!
@@tuckerfrd1 exactly!
@@profphilbell2075 What’s an assault weapon? Is a baseball bat an assault weapon ?
@@savageboxing1402 a baseball bat is for playing baseball. Guns are for killing things. There you go.
@@behonestwithyourself3718 Owing a gun a constitutional protected right. There you go
No kid should have access to a firearm ever
Why are americans blaming the FBI when it is the american civilians who support "the right to bare arms ,second amendment laws" to own a gun and it isnt just one gun, they need to own 20 different types of guns, hunting gun,pistol , silencer, semi automatic, sniper gun in their homes because they beleive that some middle eastern terrorist or some immigrant will invade their home, just like this woman in this video is carrying on about.
There are 42 million adolescents and 74 million children in USA . Do the american people think that for each child and person who has a gun in their home that the FBI will be standing right behind 74 million childrens back making sure to stop that child from shooting anyone , because 42 million adults keep crying that they have the right the right to bare arms and own a gun ?
If the 42 million adults in USA grew a brain and stopped being so selfish and stopped pushing the government to allow the adults to own a gun by crying that they have a right to bare arms, and it is clearly obvious that the 42 million adults are unable to own a gun safely, maybe there wouldnt be 384 mass shootings in the year of 2024 alone.
The reason why all these shootings are happening is because of GUNS. I dont understand why this is so difficult for americans to realise
smart deduction but pointless. people are emotion driven creatures, not logic driven. humans are not vulcanians (yeah a star trek reference)
Doesn't mexico ban guns for their citizens hows that working out for them?
My dad taught me from a very young age how to handle guns and that they weren't toys, but were designed and built to kill. They weren't built for fun, they were for killing and to never point at anyone or anything you didn't want to kill.
Even if you think it's empty, he drilled into our heads "there's no such thing as an unloaded gun".
Basic gun safety, that's a W dad.
That's not the point. You think this dad didn't do the same ? The son wanted to kill, he didn't think it was a game or was being careless.
gun safety is pointless if the person wants to kill. this 'kid' had the intention to kill, so no safety training would have prevented that.
I don't believe underage children should have unsupervised access to any firearm.
I live in the UK and its gotten to the point where we don't even feel sorry for you guys anymore. These stories have way less impact on us than they did a few years ago because we know you are choosing it.
Come on, we're just as stupid as they are. How many times we voted Torries in and don't get me started on Brexit, Boris and Farage.
Doesn't the UK arrest people for having an opinion? I have to say your statement hurts my feelings. I hope you don't get arrested 😹
If he was a black kid in a house with locked up hunting guns he'd have gone to jail just on the threats and possibility that he might use them.
Give me one instance of that happening. Cause that’s 100% not true bro.
100% false. Stop it bro. Nobody cares that you’re black. And you know damn well that has never happened. Is your brain sezing up or do you just believe all the lies that you are being told from the left?
If I was forced to live in America (not happening), I would NEVER send my children to school. I would home school them. Or leave the country.
As an American, I agree.
please never come here
No one's forced . I'm american and poor, and I have been able to be poor anywhere I've went in the world. Haha everything is a choice.
I go to school I’m not worried. These events, tragic, are extremely unlikely to happen to you personally
FingerFronthole snowflake
The dad should be held partially responsible, because he was warned by authorities prior.
He was arrested
more than partially responsible
We need to start holding parents accountable
WE need to start holding Republicans accountable.
I think they are charging this shooter's father.
100%. thankfully, the father was areested.
@@scifisoldier The gun control laws are so week that you could tell a principal of a grammar school minute by minute detailed list of actions of how you would accurately shoot every student, every day for a year, and you would never get arrested , never have your guns taken away, because of your freedom of speech. Every damn thing is a "second amendment infringement" for these nuts. Saying the word gun in a threatening tone is gun control of these fools.
If the Founding Fathers knew how bad that situation with guns would devolve into, they'd fully rewrite the second amendment.
Ok well most people don't realize what the actual Second Amendment says and means it says a well-regulated militia we already have a well-regulated militia and that is the National Guard
True!... and then the NRA & followers would try and shoot the founding fathers
@@JustSita5000 And they also wrote that amendment while they were still at strife with the UK. And as of now, I don't think that's King Charles's number one priority to reconquer the United States...
@@potrelviewer9536 well of course not lol the uk for most part loves us but I bet deep down they still salty when they see the great wealth of America
@@JustSita5000 and to think that many British folk regret leaving the EU... Well, you lose some, you win some, but sadly it doesn't work 100% of the time.
School shootings, 200 people a day dying from Fentanyl over doses, human trafficking etc. America is in moral decay, praying we can regain a Godly way of living. The level of hatred is very palpable. We are not seeing each other as valuable.
The parents should be held responsible because they were notified by the FBI about their teen's activities on social media...🤔
Dad was arrested! If they won’t change the laws, this is a decent step forward
The father is facing charges of involuntary manslaughter and second degree murder.
More arrested. I am local and over a dozen are being charged with terroristic threats and double that number have been taken into custody. Fear is great and my son said police are lined up around the school when the bus is pulling in. The other arrests I found on Fox 5 Atlanta and there is supposedly a group with a “list”
I wonder if this was a black kid or Muslim and had this threat , if they would've just let him be 🤔🧐
Hell no, house searched on watch and definitely family would be on a watchlist
A Black Man With A Nice Foreign Car Gets Followed By The FB!/F€Ds ~ With No Crime History
We know the answer to that ..dont we ?
@@southjanexg Only Blks Get Followed & Obsessively Stalked By The FB! They Have A Crush On Dark Chocolate 🍫
Exactly! He'd have been arrested immediately or deemed a threat, provoked, and put down and painted a criminal in the news media.
The dad should be charged
He has been arrested and charged according to reports.
Hes in jail with no bail. Charged with second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter
@@bonbonvegabon thank you for sharing this
@@carlarivera0033 NO prob bob
On top of social media, is it any surprise that US children have such poor mental health?? Here in the UK we haven't had a school shooting since the 90s. We don't have active shooter drills (you are likely the only country that has them).
We have troubled children here like any other country, but what we don't have is easy access to guns. I would hate to have to send my children to school and worry about them getting shot while they are there. How can you just let this happen without changing your gun laws?? It is beyond sick...
They took all the guns in Australia. It worked out.
And many regret it.
Not one mass shooting since 1996. You can still own a gun in Oz but they tighten the rules considerably.
@@timwarcloud not the majority tho. And the kids dont go thru metal detectors, have armed guards etc etc
@@timwarcloudAustralia didn't regret they don't have mass shootings anymore believe or not you can live a full live without having sex with a firearm
@@icebergrose8955Liar! There has been at least 7.
Why can't the parents go to jail along with the shooter? Unsupervised possession of the weapon. Perhaps other parents will think about consequences for themselves.
the main reason I'm still alive today is because I couldn't get a gun when I was going through puberty. Puberty made everything the end of the world, and I have no idea how I survived other than I didn't have access to a gun, any gun with bullets would have sufficed.
Thank you so much! I hope this wakes up some people.
@@carolynstuart5901 it wont...those people are not watching this or reading the comment section
23 school shootings this year?!!! Thats insane.
@@josephwinder6878 I'm Canadian so on the outside looking in its the US gun culture I find bizarre. We have guns up here but everyone isn't paranoid and think they need them all the time.
Our last mass shooting here in Canada happened over 47 years ago lol
How is that funny?
@@dontshadowbanmeyoutube Its not but your hellhole country sure is a joke lol
@@dontshadowbanmeyoutube Your country is a joke dude
@bonbonvegabon I agree, but I don't find it funny. We're fcked.
The parents should have took away all access to those guns after cops came to the house last year about the threats. Parents of the 14 year old should be seriously held accountable for what their son did. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Actually, his father bought him a gun after the FBI interview.
The father bought the gun for the son a few months after the investigators spoke with both of them.
His father is being held accountable moron, he’s been arrested.
You gonna run your mouth then learn to follow along before you spout out clown. 🤡
Totally agree. No military style weapons in the hands of any civilians, even those who were in the military and now back to civilian life.
American obsession with guns...teach your kids how to ride dirt bikes instead!
"We don't invest in mental health at all", is spot on Ana.
If everybody’s forgetting, there was a time when we used to Teach people in school how to use weapons and there wasn’t any shootings back then
There were gun clubs
The dad has been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter and child abuse. He purchased the gun for Colt knowing he had been questioned last year because of reports that he was making online threats.
@@SAKILE1 desperately trying to find a scapegoat won't help. Father and Child are american. Same culture of those who are now mourning their dead.
was worse because they also questioned the father last year too. And the charge is second degree murder
His father bought him the gun
yes, report was the dad bought him the gun as a gift, the dad is now arrested, and he deserves jail time. After the son made threat against the school, for the dad to not take away the gun made him culpable for what happened.
He wasnt a black kid with a funny hairstyle ,so not a ' threat ' .
As a person who was shot as a kid with her grandfather's hunting rifle, I believe people should have the right to protect themselves from home invaders, but also have gun safety precautions in effect. #KeepGunsAwayFromMinors
Nothing has been learned since Columbine.
I'm brazilian and I remember Columbine with sadness. It's so frustrating to see that things never change in USA. I remember they blaming Doom witch is a nice videogame instead to putting real laws to protect students as a priority
If Donald Trump makes it we know that he will not do anything about it because for him is the easy way is to except the endorsements of the NRA.
YOU NEED TO SHUT UP
all he more reason to vote up and down for the Democrats if only to get better gun laws.
@@KathyCyr-dg7bvno he's right
@@philiplombardo4332 Donald Trump banned bump stocks lol he’s actually not second amendment friendly 😂
The kids' father has been charged with murder.
Hell we have one mental person running for president
Dad bought the gun after the interview.
I had the alcoholic neighbor that was teaching 8 year old boy and 6 year old girl to shoot guns. He was a lunatic, his wife too. I’m sure they will be in headlines one day.
Saying "school shooting have slowed down a bit" is crazy. Like that's a normal thing to say. Like, we're talking about rain.
It likely only slowed down because of the school holidays, which is just depressing.
Rest assured nothing will be done to protect our children or their teachers......
You need a license to drive a car. Guns should be treated the same way.
So many red flags here and they still give him a gun
Cenk is right
To ban commonplace firearms and require those owned to be locked and put in another location?
How on earth are you supposed to be able to utilize arms for self defense if they’re locked in a separate building than your home?
@@DireAvenger001 That's the thing, assault style weapons shouldn't be commonplace to begin with. You want self defense? All you need is a pistol using pistol calibers. As for hunting, you don't need anything more than a five round capacity bolt action rifle.
Furthermore, I'm saying this as an owner of multiple AR-15 and high capacity rifles
My wife is a teacher if anything happens to her watch out. If they want them make them serve 20 years in the marines and army.
Here in the UK, we have had ZERO school shootings.
Yes. Stabbings seem to be the thing in the UK.
@@horatiodreamt Stabbings suck, but they're much less lethal than shootings~
How are the machete gangs treating you, mate?
@@gayfrog68 The gangs know how to sink the blade (knife, machete, or Samurai sword) into the heart. Do a little research on the topic, it will shock you. Heck, listen to a few UK drill tracks and you'll get it straight from the horse's mouth... brev.
@@menandwomenarefromearth What machete gangs? 😕
FBI selective profiling. Naah he is harmless.
Blonde white kid. What could go wrong..
I'm from Australia which is always brought up with mass shootings. I have family that go pistol shooting every fortnight (pistols and ammunition stored at the range) and on hunting trips (rifles and shot guns stored at home in separate safes than the ammunition) who are licensed and inspected yearly. This is responsible gun culture.
It is also very rare for any criminals to have guns because they are so rare which makes them so expensive that they can't get them. A street pistol would start at $5000 as rare but able to be imported legally before going black market and an AR would start at $30000 because they only arrive in shipments of cocaine.
It's the law of supply and demand. Unfortunately the USA never restricted supply so you are now in a hole so deep there is no way to climb out.
Anna when somebody comes here by plane from another country and terrorizes a US citizen they don't come with guns. They get the guns here.
Prepositioned by associates. It is illegal for non-U.S. citizens to possess firearms. A federal judge ruled on this last week. The 2A only applies to U.S. citizens.
Still need a gun in the home for protection, instead of running off to the redbox at 7-11. She's right about that. What a crazy idea. This is why Cenk would have been a clown president.😅
@robchuk
Thousands of kids of died because of keeping guns in the home. Homes that never had anyone break into them and most likely never would have.
That father should also be charged!
"My gun has more rights than your kid"
It is not often that I completely agree with Cenk, but he is spot on with this one. He very well stated my personal frustration with our system right now. Not even sure how we can fix this anymore, not with the mental attitude of the gun owners. It will take something really major to get America to wake up. And the fact that THEIR KIDS are dying is NOT enough to get people to grasp this is stupid is honestly both heartbreaking and terrifying.
How Can We Even Claim That We Care About Our Children's Safety When We Have Another Mass Shooting And We Don't Even Adress The Gun Violence They Face Every Day? We Want To Ban Books Instead Of Keeping Our Kids Safe. The F.B.I Knew This Could Happen And They Didn't Take It Seriously. They Just Don't Care, That's Has To Change. We Need To Do Anything We Can To Protect Our Children!😢
The 2nd Amendment has 0 to do with hunting. Stop saying that.
As far as im aware, his father bought him the gun. The father has been arrested.
would the FBI have been so casual with the concern if it had been a black or muslum teenager
You know they would have done something...
White man can do anything!
@@darkdan3379Any NaZionester IsraHELL kids died?
Europeans and Descendants are disgrace to humanity!
@@darkdan3379 exactly and maybe those kids would still be alive
Gun manufacturers just dumped a million into Clarence Thomas' bank account.
I have a child who used to be suicidal and the state I live in won't allow me to have steak knives, yet men can keep their guns!?
Even the wild wild west we see in the movies wasn't the wild west. Today's gun culture fares much much worse.
in other countries they get robbed but they dont have guns and no one dies... this is uniquely american problem
This is called "guns control."
@@eldenringer6466 People get robbed in Mexico with guns all the time
It popped into my head when Cenk said that shooter father should be arrested that a parent of an underage shooter who neglected the safety of the weapons be charged with the same charges as the shooter. So, we need a nationwide law to enact to this effect.
Its happened before
@@MsDragonbal776 But that needs to be a publicly announced consequence.
In cases of negligence like this one yes definitely.
I think the FBI should've dug a bit deeper, maybe questioned the teachers what the kid's life was like at school.
But the father also needs to be held accountable.
The nra should not have a voice in politics
It’s bullying, then mental health issues , then the guns .
This kid was at the school for one and half days......he was new.....I don't think he was bullied that much....but I guess we will find out in the dec 4th
That’s crap because if the kid was black you would never bring up bullying or mental health. You would call him a thug and a killer
If it were really about bullying, he would have targeted his bullies. Stop making excuses for him.
I respect you for saying guns is part of the problem, not the only problem.
@@adriannaquirarte i say that not from this incident only , but from the majority mass shooters in America for the past decades , it’s obvious bullying on them , and they mentioned alot from his father and others he was bullied, but maybe he revenged in his new school, as against bullies in general.
"The FBI Spends a Lot of Time Spying on Black Americans." ~The Intercept, Oct. 29, 2019.
That's Why They Can't Intercept The Colt Gray's, Dylann Roof's & Nicolas Cruiz's 😂
A Bunch Of Obsessive Blk Men Hunters 😂
Yep. Part of the problem with this specific incident is that the suspects are white
The father was arrested as reported by the BBC two hours ago EST.
Yep I saw that too
Only place in THE WORLD i would never set foot is the US, N.E.V.E.R.
I grew up going every summer (80’s-90’s). Took my own kids when young.
But the day Trump got elected, I told them we won’t be going as long as Trump was potus.
But he made the US such a dumpster fire I’m not interested in stepping foot there anymore.
this Canadian hasn't been to USa since 2010. I never will again.
Everything you said Cenk is correct about guns
in my country guns are totally banned and owning one gets life inprisonment, Using it to commit crime leads to death penalty, we only have murders committed using knives and parangs here
Arent these the same people who call themselves *"Pro Life"* ??
We know they are pro de&th
Tell Ana that Daddy bought his son the gun for XMAS after being visited by the Sheriff's office!
You can't arrest people for what you think they might do.
well...if they make a creditable threat you can...like if the kid had easy access to guns then they could have...thing is, the local police contacted the family, and talked with the kid and father, and they determined that all the guns were locked up correctly...thats why the kid didnt get arrested 1 year ago...we need armed guards
"Well regulated militia".
You as an individual are not part of a militia. The 2nd ammendment was put together as a means for local communities to organize self defense and policing in a newly developing country where there were hostile indigenous groups, wild animals, lack of law enforcement, and a hostile foreign power. It was never intended to be any rando can pick up a gun and walk around with it without questions, and it was conceived in a time where guns were 1000x less deadly and took time to reload and weren't as accurate.
The criteria for owning guns in the US is crazy. It should be first assumed all individuals are mentally ill, or can be easily be pushed that way by any unforeseen circumstances affecting them.
100% right Cenk. This country loves assault rifles more than their own children.
You should say "assault style weapons" otherwise you'll get jumped by the gun toting right with,"YoU dOn'T kNoW wHaT aSsAuLt wEaPoNs ArE".
The actual definition of assault rifle includes a fully automatic function. Which 95% of assault style weapons in the US don't have.
The problem with gun control is that the Trump people are already very well armed. I feel like some regular people need to be able to fight back.