MANDARIN & TIBETAN
Вставка
- Опубліковано 16 січ 2023
- Welcome to my channel! This is Andy from I love languages. Let's learn different languages/dialects together.
Please feel free to subscribe to see more of this.
I hope you have a great day! Stay happy!
Please support me on Patreon!
www.patreon.com/user?u=16809442.
Please support me on Ko-fi
ko-fi.com/otipeps0124
Two mutually unintelligible languages, but remotely related like Sanskrit is to Latin. For example, not all Tibetan dialects have tones, but all Chinese dialects are tonal. Tibetan languages put verbs after objects while verbs in Chinese often come before objects.
If you are interested to see your native language/dialect be featured here.
Submit your recordings to otipeps24@gmail.com.
Looking forward to hearing from you!
important to note that the translations of the prayer in either languages is different. the mandarin one is vernacular-focused, while the tibetan translation is translated to sound formal and literary, which is why it sounds more like a poem.
I feel like this is one of the reasons some ppl use the passage “The Northern Wind and the Sun” for comparing languages. Because when you’re using the Lord’s Prayer, you are not using the language in its most natural form.
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Hmm... Speaking of Sino-Tibetan languages, how about making a video comparing Chinese and Burmese?
I would also like Bodo language to be compared with other Sino-tibetan languages.
We just loaned some words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
For those wondering why Tibetan sounds like a song while Mandarin does not, even though they are both tonal languages: Mandarin uses 5-6 tones while Tibetan has only 2 tones (with 2 different contours each) so that 2-syllable words in Tibetan very often have 2 different tones on each syllable, so sentences can go like: "low-high-low-high-low-high" or "high-low-high-low-high-low", that's why they sound like a simple song. Mandarin with its many different tones, on the other hand, doesn't sound like a song but like regular speech because its cadence is more varied since it has a wider array of tones to choose from. That's why the rythm of Tibetan sounds so regular while that of Mandarin is so irregular.
It's actually 4-5 tones for Mandarin.
3-5 tones depends on dialects
Tibetan people love singing, that's why their spoken language sounds like a song. Mandarin was phonetically simplified for officials and artificially standardized machine language, called Putonghua, although it has been spoken by many Chinese people as they were obliged to learn Putonghua from primary school or even earlier.
Wrong, Mandarin only has the standard 4 tones
@@UnoriginallyOriginal that's not completely correct- Mandarin has a "5th" neutral tome
Wow, Tibetan language sounds like a song!
Thanks for this video.
We just loaned some words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group andchinese have blood group O
Nice. Would like to see Tibetan alongside Dzongkha.
I think he already compared all Tibeto-Burman languages in a video.
@@ElHeraldoHispano Yes I believe you're right but I think it was just the numbers, rather than the side-by-side sample text.
@@ElHeraldoHispano Dzongkha is Bhutanese language not Burmese..
@@karmakennylama6014 I know it's from Bhutan. But I'm saying that Dzongkha belongs to the Tibeto-Burman branch of the Sino-Tibetan family of languages.
We just loaned some words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
I get they are both part of the sino Tibetan language family but split between the Sinitic and Tibeto-Burman languages approximately around 4,000 to 7,000 years ago Chinese is from the sinitic branch while while Tibetan Tibeto-Burman let us put it this way indo Iranian split from indo European around 3,000 BCE so around 5,000 or so years so why not do a video comparing Persian with a Slavic language
That's a magnificent idea
Better yet, a video with like 15 Indo-European languages, but only non-national ones
A similar split is between Hebrew and Arabic
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
I was waiting for this video! thanks!
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
@@whyamihere2250I’m sorry? What are you on about
@@Kris102 jus spreading some info my bad if i annoy u bro :- D
@@whyamihere2250 okay. I’m not Chinese btw
@@Kris102 oh my bad
Ancient Chinese would be closer to Tibetan
What is ancient chinese language?
@@Zoogy_zooOld Chinese before Mongolian conquest
Tibetans originated from prehistoric Chinese people who migrated to Tibet.
@@aofeizhang8735 you talking about Mongolian from Kublai Khan era Yuan dynasty ?
@@Zoogy_zoo No, all Mongols count in
I,m Balti Spoken From Balti- yull
Balti Language Belong to Sino Tibeaten ...and I,m proud to be tebeaten
jullay brother love you as a tibetan brother living from nepal
@@whyamihere2250
Thank you brother
We know about Dolpo people and Dolpo languege lot of similarities with Balti language ....💝
@@BaltiBoy12 yes bro but im not from dolpo im from kham tibet im just living in nepal but anyways thanks brother
Greetings from Darjeeling, India, my distance brother. I am from Bhutia tribe of Tibetic group
Balti,purgi,tibetan🫡
Using the Lord's Prayer seems like a strange choice for a text sample between Chinese and Tibetan.
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
A bit weird to use a biblical text for this one, but I like the musicality. =O
Missionaries go to great lengths to translate the Bible into many languages. A lot of romanization systems and dictionaries were created by them, so reference material is easy to find.
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Why does the Tibetan language divide every sentence into these chunks of syllable clusters to where it sounds like a sort of old spoken song, very interesting
i have always heard lamas reciting their texts in 9, 7, 7+2 and 5+2 syllable clusters which makes it very musical
i dont get why they to divide, need a dot, why couldnt they use space?
@@equilibrum999 bro trust me tibetan script has everything or more that you can’t think off.
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
So, is it some kind of Tibetan poetic form to have 7 syllables every line?
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
how does trhe Yuzhou randomly decide that 'hmmm yes lets put Bod Skad and Zhongyu to be together' and after years, some random Zhizhe decide that 'hmmm yes these definitelly share the same tree'
Totally different.
Its like comparing English and Russian
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@var9599Yes
@@tripplehhh2584Why are you laughing?
@@cheerful_crop_circle I laughed because I want to laugh 😂 is their problem for laughing 😂
Compare Tibetan and Dzongkha languages please?
He compared all Tibeto-Burman languages in a video, including Tibetan and Dzongkha.
It’s the same thing. Different dialect just like Tibetan from amdo speak different dialect from kham and utsang. it would be interesting if Dzongkha has own script.
0:26 Wômen ☕🗿
Can you compare Esperanto and Ido?
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
@@whyamihere2250 why are you here
@@darkdemian7747 to explain some stuff lmao
cool.
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Can you do how sound ithkuil?
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
the tibetan number of 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 sound very close to southern hokkien dialect of chinese
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
The number 2 "ni" or "yi" is found among southern dialects. Unsure why it became "er" in Mandarin
ni->i->ir->er
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Mandarin：2 ni → zi → ri → rrr → er
5 nga → ngo → ngu → u
You should have compare Tibetan to Burmese
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Tibetan Dzongkha and Burmese comparison plzzz
Nice to find you here sis! 🥰💅
I need to learn Vachinese to find my new 69th papi in Vachina
@@lenguyenxuonghoa The slayness 🥰
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
SO DARN DIFFERENT 😂 I was able to find so many similarities in old persian and sanskrit compared to this. Lol!
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
wow,is that how tibetan people speak?because it kinda sounds like you're singing or something...
Yes! I wrote it too.
No reading and speaking it bit different also there’s also lots of different dialects . The one in this video is utsang dialect
no BROOO WE TALK LIKE THAT ONLY WHEN WE R SAYING SOMETHING IMPORTANT OR PERSUADING
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
very very different lanuages but resometimwa when i listen to the shortwaves they randomly seem as the same
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Let Tibet stand as Nation.
The Script here comes under Indic Script🇮🇳
Tibetan is literally is rap language! 😮
Poetic edition.
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
@@whyamihere2250 why do you keep copying and pasting to every comments
@@poetaetoe8833 what?
Goo you are 0:49
MANDARIM/CHINÊS & TIBETANO
Gro ba mi'i rigs rgyud yongs la skyes tsam nyid nas che mthongs dang*/_thob thangagi rang dbang 'dra mnyam du yod la/_khong tshor rang byung gi blo rtsal dang bsam tshul bzang po 'don pa'i 'os babs kyang yod/_de bzhin phan tshun gcig gis gcig la bu spun gyi 'du shes 'dzin pa'i bya spyod kyang lag len bstar dgos pa yin. Tibetan
Gro-ba-mi-rigs-ga-ra-dbaṅ-cha-’dra-mtam-’bad-sgyew-las-ga-ra-gis-gcig-
gis-gcig-lu-spun-cha’i-dam-tshig-bstan-dgo. Dzongkha
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Now I And The Philippines From Mandarin Chinese And South Philippines to Tibetan Rup Philippines Love it
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Wait wait wait. That is Tibetan alright. But that isn't how we speak. Clearly, whoever wrote that Tibetan part wrote it as a poem. That is why the syllable count in each sentence is same (that is tibetan poetry).
Yea, the cadence is different from casual speaking
Tibetan numbers sound like Thai numbers to some extent and it’s amazing. I’ve always known that Thai numbers 2-10 were all adopted from old Chinese, only number 1 is authentic Tai-Kradai word. And, Tibetan and Chinese both belong to Sino-Tibetan family which means they share the same ancestor. However, hearing number 1-10 in Tibetan similar to numbers in Thai still amazed me.
It sounds like Japanese numbers as well for some reason I found that Tibetan was closer to Japanese counting despite the fact it was taken from Chinese not Tibetian
@@Joseph-pz5boprobably because Sinitic Japanese counting system traces its root from early middle Chinese. Modern day mandarin had already branched out far away from early middle Chinese. However, some Chinese dialects, especially Southern ones, still have considerable degrees of resemblance to old or middle Chinese, depending on which dialect. My dialect is particularly close to old Chinese compared to the other counterparts so I figured that it still sounds very much like Tibetan (sounds like doesn't mean you could understand)
@@minami_totori5394 I am Thai of Chinese descent. My dialect is Hainanese, which is a branch of Minnan dialects. I wonder if you speak one of the Minnan dialects too?
@wkmt_xiu I guess, because number 1 is a basic word that has existed since ancient times. In the past, they might only distinguish between one and many, but the number 2,3,4,5,…weren’t developed yet, so the Tai ancestors adopted them from the Han Chinese later as counting system was getting more important in their daily life, such as calendar, trading,…etc.
@@chinese.etc.1034 yes I do. the hokkien i speak is more of quanzhou/xiamen accent. is hainanese still very popular in Thailand now? Cuz down south, hainanese is very rare now, despite its considerable demographics
And I just don’t know
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
0:50
i heard "gay women" 😂
You can see the difference. It would be better if compared on the bases of normal conversations . First comparing some words , then conversation.rather than reading this para.i am a tibetan.
that tibetan is reading poetry, not normal speech
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
It sounds more like Cantonese
tibetans had the same ancestors as chinese 15000-9000 years same for mongols that are 20000-15000
Knowledge I good but half Knowledge is very dangerous
eni
du
trom
chi
vu
slik
cem
pa
gun
chu
yir ni san shi wor ro qia ba gur jin Chu language
Ni hao dazya hao
Free Tibet !
Tibet sounds more south Asian than I expected
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
@@whyamihere2250 but the Y chromosome D is not Turks，Altai，or Mongol，is only Ancient Qiang
@@auir66li57 Chromosone D came from mongolia such as the ainu the natives of japan they actually came from mongolia
Tibetan language is like rap language rap song
A little bit close to Burmese
Tibetan sounds a bit like Russian
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
tibetan rap)
Literally
Number is more similar to Japan number
That's chinese numerals.😅The Japanese 1 number is hitotsu, 2 is futatsu. Do you understand?
Today, there are still 500 million people in the south who still speak medieval Chinese, and Mandarin is modern Chinese,So the difference is a little big.
Japanese advanced vocabulary comes from China, including architecture, traditional clothing, tea ceremony, Zen, bonsai, courtyard and calligraphy, all of which are Chinese culture.😅
funny
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Tibetan sounds like Hakka than mandarin to me
next burmese & tibetan
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Tibetan sounds like what Chinese sounds like to people who don't speak it
I don't know about that lol
I'd never heard how Tibetan sounds. It's so playful.
Yī
Èr
Sān
Sì
Wu
Liù
So,differences Mandarin n Tibetan,I,m a language family from Sino- Tibetan en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garo_language
Women de tiān fù yuàn ni de míng shòu xiănyâng
Yuàn ni de guó láilín yuàn ni de zhiyì fèngxíng zài rénjiān rútóng zái tiānshàng
Qiú ni jīntiān shăng gěi women rí yóng de shíliáng
Qiú ni kuānshù women de zuìguo rútóng women kuānshú biérén yīyàng
Bùyào ràng women xiànyù yòuhuò dàn jiù women miăn yù xiong-è āmén
i guess this si an prayer of Christianity
Han zu must stop hating & exterminating tibetan language & cultures. Mandarin & Tibetan must lives as hospitable brothers.
Hokien, Canton, Hakka, Wu, Teochiew in Southern China also
@@gudseygood3622 Its sinitic group with In Mandarin, like comparing Tibetan and Amdo or Tibetan with Dzongkha both tibetic languages
hanmin need stop torment Zangguo, Ziyou Zangguo he zangmin.
Tibets are really cousins to Burmese people 😅 most of original words are same
Tibetan is more level up, simplified, pratical and acessible, elevated than mandarin. Its lirical and musical naturally and never tonalist as mandarim, more pretty concise, coherent.
Mandarin is sinitic and Tibetan is Tibetanic Burmanic Tai diverse genres of langs, totally diverse and separated.
🎶🎵💜💜💋🥂🌷🙏🙏🙏
actaully we dont talk like that bud we talk like that only when persuading someone or praying sometimes
They are literally two most prominent representatives of the 'Sino-Tibetan' language family...
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
The pronunciations of Tibetan numbers are more similar to Hokkien as Min Chinese languages derive from Ancient Chinese. Mandarin is so "Manchuised."
is not, hanzi for gold doesnt sound like aisin
別亂造謠，你去看看滿語單詞，跟普通話毫無關係，沒文化就別好為人師
谁告诉你闽话粤语是古汉语的啊？又是客家人吧？
Tibetan sounds a bit like Russian
We just loaned a lot of words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
We just loaned some words just like the japanese and the koreans did we didnt migrate from you guys we migrated from three peoples, the qiangs(rma), Turks from altai, and some mongols that have the haplogroup D this why we tibetan have a haplogroup D blood group and you chinese have blood group O
Tibetan retains some of the sounds of Old Chinese that modern Chinese has lost.
The fact that the vocabularies of both languages are so different shows why the Sino-Tibetan language family is controversial
That's because they've diverged so much with Sinitic being the most innovative branch in the tree with Mandarin being very innovative, if you see the more conservative variaties of Chinese like Min or Cantonese, it bears closer resemblance to Tibetan.
@@gtc239 Exactly, furthermore the actual chinese standard from Beijing is closer to Manchu (Altaic Family) in phonology rather than the other Sino-tibetan languages
Do you have a reliable source for that? As far as I know, there is a consensus that Chinese languages and Tibetan are related.
Well even in Sino-Tibetan they fall in two different branches-Sinitic and Tibeto-Burman.
The fact the vocabularies of Russian and English , Malays and Taiwan Aborigin , Finland and Hungaria etc All are so different too , why Indo European languages , Austronesian languages and Uralic languages is controversional 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
They look nothing like each other
Its like comparing English and Russian or English and Hindi, both indo European with different branch
@@var9599At least you understand how languages work
Tibetan is not a single language.
Tibet belongs to India, not China.
Look at a map. Did you fail geography?😂
😅😅😅does india rule tibet just one day？？？？？？it was independent or belongs to China，ok？
Tibet belongs to Tibetans
Tibet belongs to Tibetans.
Wake up man
我甚至觉得粤语比普通话更像藏语是怎么回事🤣
The person who is speaking for me as a tibetan is either speaking sarcastically or to get that extra tone to persuade some people in a speech normally if you talk tibetan you would casually talk most words non tonally...
8=gay 888