After testing three different bottles I've essentially come to that conclusion as well. Which saddens me a little bit. I usually base most of my glaze reviews off of a few things. Versatility, how well it does with combinations both over and under, consistency, accuracy of the description on the bottle. This glaze is essentially pigeonholed into doing one thing. Going over other glazes. It's essentially a topper glaze but it's very sad to me that it can only do that one job otherwise it's bad at all other jobs. While even some of my bad handmade glazes have more versatility and utility than this glaze does. If I'm being honest my handmade lumos glaze is just a better version of this. It makes me very sad because I thought after enough experimentation I would find some utility other than just putting it over a darker glaze .but no. It essentially does one job . Sadly
@@EarthNationCeramics I mean, it's actually kinda impressive how you've tried all the worst ways to use C-10 (on it's own... boring! as an underglaze... pointless!) and only got the good results of it as an overglaze by sorta accident.
Snow over not under. Just think of a snow storm covering the countryside, and you get a real nice oil spot look on your other glasses if you put snow over.
Just like others have said, c-10 seems to only ever work well as a top glaze. Can have amazing results. Love to see you try all those again in reverse.
Agree with the other commenters about putting snow over, rather than under. Also a flat plate doesn't give gravity much opportunity to affect how glazes play with each other.
I would love you to test more glaze combinations. When you do two with the same combo, could you do one over and then one under so we can see how they react differently with each other.
I’ve used snow, I keep the glazes separate so that the top glaze runs over snow. On a mug, from top to bottom oatmeal over lapping iron lustre and then snow. It’s ok for oatmeal and iron lustre to overlap snow. I love this combo.
Hi! I love using Snow as a base, and then...dripping other glazes over it. It makes a great background if you want something clean to work with. My favorite is dripping Seaweed over it. You get the fun of the Seaweed and it keeps everything in place! I can glaze all the way to the bottom of the piece and it doesn't run onto the shelf! Most recently, I used Snow as a back ground for Mayco Blue Hydrangea...heading to the studio this morning to see the results!
I'm a new Potter and use snow over celedons for embellishment. It's creates a gorgeous snow effect so I can develop my Nordic look.... Seagirl from Aotearoa New Zealand....
Well, it’s not a celadon. But it does do cool things over other glazes. Only over though, for some reason. There. I said it. I like snow. Please don’t unsubscribe me. I love you 74.8 per cent of the time. If my first ever go at mixing my own glaze, the oilspot red you shared, goes well, I could go to 94 per cent.
Is it worth it? Let me work it (C10) Put that thang down, flip it and reverse it... I'm seeing really good results with C10 on top. Double do-over puh-lease!!! Pretty please?
Could the failure be that these were used on plates? In my mind the glazes don't have much space to flow would just puddle in the middle so the top glaze would be in greater concentration. A bowl or a mug allows them to stretch and thin with gravity giving you the variation you like. Like a difference between using wax melts vs. a pillar candle. Wax melts leave a puddle and a pillar drips and flows...I have no idea what I am talking about. I use the glazes that my class provides
I also read that it can create an oilspot look over a couple of the other Celadons like Rainforest and one other I believe. I think that Snow is basically to mix with the other Celadons in the Amaco line to lighten that Celadon and/or create custom colors as they are all mixable with each other.
You can only say it's not good if you try it on top 😁.....one more test please....you have to try to replicate the original snow over river rock results.
In 2019 (I think), I got five PC glazes (PC-20,21,30,35,59) and C10 and made 16 test tiles. There wasn't a lot of mixing that happened. The only C-10 that ran was when I dipped it on the rim. My son (who got me started) said you really need to glaze at Cone-10 to get good running action. On one that I had C10 on the top coat it looked like cake frosting - no mixing/running, it just pulled away from the corners. Like you, I was looking for something inspirational to happen and none of that happened. The one that looked like it had the most potential was PC35(OilSpot) over PC21(ArcticBlue).
Looks like the horizontal application does not allow running and mixing or rolling of glaze over glaze. Instead it sits there one over the other. Your original kiln load that came out outstanding were mugs..vertical eye candy
I'm surprised to see that you have done none of what amaco advertises this glaze for. C-10 and C-1 obsidian are in the celadon line because they are used in the blending /mixing you can do, Before application, the celadon line lets you create your own custom colors based from any of the C-x options.
My kiln just got wired in. So can't wait to vacuum it out before I fire it the first time!!! I saw that comment and laughed. Do you ever glaze one coat and then wait 24 hours for the next? asking for a friend....
Maybe you could test combos two ways...first one base then the top....and afterwards test the two colors inverting the order. That would be interesting.
have you ever really mixed glazes instead of layering them? say 50% of one glaze and 50% of another glaze mixed and then applied ton the pot? I have thought that it would be cool to do a pot glazed with the 50-50 glaze and an identical pot ;ayer glazed with the same glazes. Sound interesting?
Hmmm there is something I have wondered...and it might be something to test in a future video.... can some of the minerals used in Chinese paint such as azurite be used to color clay. There is a variety of inks made with azurite that is pounded dry until it is a very fine powder. The azurite is then boiled and skimmed of any froth. Then animal glue (wood working supplies like rockler carry it) is added and melted into the hot water until a liquid acrylic paint type visocity is obtained once it has cooled. Read about it in a translated copy of Chinese Painting Colors, by Yu Feian, trans. Silbergeld & McNair. Very fascinating book and I think it might be a must for the ceramic artists book shelf. Silbergeld dedicated his life to painting and studying painting and pigments. I wonder if this ink paint was mixed into the pottery during the wedging process would it change the clays color and still survive the firing process? Azurite is extremely expensive in powder form (238 dollars for 100 grams). Another and probably cheaper way to test would be through clamshell white which is very finely powdered clam shell prepared the same way as above with azurite. Clam shell powder is sometimes used in the agricultural industry for giving calcium to chickens and a bag runs maybe 50 bucks from Amazon as a calcium supplement made with oyster shells and comes as a 50 pound bag. Worse case scenario you learn how to make a white paint that you could use to decorate pots with using stamps or something....which could be also cool...
Because I usually sell my plates in pairs so if I decide to sell them they need to come as a set Glaze the same way. Secondly I like to test for consistency so if a glaze combination comes out the same way twice I know I depend on it. If it only happens sometimes it's luck. I need consistency.
Try Snow on vertical surface on top not under. Around the rim down a third layer or snow icing on a cake. I agree not impressed with snow under the glazes.
All these friends I've done with it turn out fine regardless of whether it's on top or bottom. I will say I don't usually mix it with other light glazes. So I've only tested it on about four different darker glazes
Obviously the glazes on the plates aren’t going to move like on the side of a mug! Please tell me you know this! You said you know what you’re doing with glaze and you usually do but I’m really second guessing you right now.
I'm sure this is obvious to you but....... the mugs are upright and the plates are flat. The glazes don't have the opportunity to flow down like the mugs. Soooooooo....
you know nothing john snow. Put it on a mug, rub it on a slug, its all about the secret sauce! Make sure to frown at the knees or you'll be flung with peas. Apply more spray fart as it will motivate adequate clay puffers on tuesday. subb muffin
Seems C-10 does much better over other glazes vs under.
After testing three different bottles I've essentially come to that conclusion as well.
Which saddens me a little bit.
I usually base most of my glaze reviews off of a few things. Versatility, how well it does with combinations both over and under, consistency, accuracy of the description on the bottle.
This glaze is essentially pigeonholed into doing one thing.
Going over other glazes.
It's essentially a topper glaze but it's very sad to me that it can only do that one job otherwise it's bad at all other jobs. While even some of my bad handmade glazes have more versatility and utility than this glaze does.
If I'm being honest my handmade lumos glaze is just a better version of this.
It makes me very sad because I thought after enough experimentation I would find some utility other than just putting it over a darker glaze .but no.
It essentially does one job . Sadly
@@EarthNationCeramics I mean, it's actually kinda impressive how you've tried all the worst ways to use C-10 (on it's own... boring! as an underglaze... pointless!) and only got the good results of it as an overglaze by sorta accident.
Came here to say the same thing... snow over ancient copper is *chef's kiss*
Snow over not under. Just think of a snow storm covering the countryside, and you get a real nice oil spot look on your other glasses if you put snow over.
Just like others have said, c-10 seems to only ever work well as a top glaze. Can have amazing results. Love to see you try all those again in reverse.
You love me, you really love me.
Agree with the other commenters about putting snow over, rather than under. Also a flat plate doesn't give gravity much opportunity to affect how glazes play with each other.
I would love you to test more glaze combinations. When you do two with the same combo, could you do one over and then one under so we can see how they react differently with each other.
You're killing me! Showing the love! ❤️❤️❤️
I’ve used snow, I keep the glazes separate so that the top glaze runs over snow. On a mug, from top to bottom oatmeal over lapping iron lustre and then snow. It’s ok for oatmeal and iron lustre to overlap snow. I love this combo.
What clay body?
@@francesrubis5220 white. I’ve used both bmix and stoneware
Hi! I love using Snow as a base, and then...dripping other glazes over it. It makes a great background if you want something clean to work with. My favorite is dripping Seaweed over it. You get the fun of the Seaweed and it keeps everything in place! I can glaze all the way to the bottom of the piece and it doesn't run onto the shelf! Most recently, I used Snow as a back ground for Mayco Blue Hydrangea...heading to the studio this morning to see the results!
I’d love to see more combination reviews. Oh, and puppy dog images! Thanks for another really interesting video.
Snow over Rainforest is my favorite. Also snow over ancient jasper is beautiful
How many coats of each did you use?
Yep I'm using snow over storm for Nordic look... happy as with my snowing effects 🐬
Snow on top, not under yeilds a different effect. Ty for the content 🙂💕
Thanks for your video they are really helpul ! Love your humour ^-^
C-10 makes a great canvas - 3 coats - paint over those 3 coats 😮as you would watercolours using underglazes and or oxide washes
Keep em coming - appreciate your honest results!
I'm a new Potter and use snow over celedons for embellishment. It's creates a gorgeous snow effect so I can develop my Nordic look.... Seagirl from Aotearoa New Zealand....
Over cinnabar! I’d post a pic if I could, it’s INCREDIBLE 💕
Donte, thanks for doing these reviews. I'd love it if you reviewed more of the recipe glazes instead of the store bought ones.
Can you try it again but using it over other glazes 🥺❤️
Well, it’s not a celadon. But it does do cool things over other glazes. Only over though, for some reason. There. I said it. I like snow. Please don’t unsubscribe me. I love you 74.8 per cent of the time. If my first ever go at mixing my own glaze, the oilspot red you shared, goes well, I could go to 94 per cent.
Layer snow on Amaco ancient copper! It’s amazing!
I have used over Rainforest and have never been able to get the `snow` effect, but it is useful as an edge glaze to add interest.
The angry beginning plus the sexy glazing soundtrack has me all kinds of confused and flustered 😳
😂
Is it worth it? Let me work it (C10)
Put that thang down, flip it and reverse it... I'm seeing really good results with C10 on top. Double do-over puh-lease!!! Pretty please?
*sigh*.... Fine I'll do one more
Can you do a review of clayscapes glazes?
Could the failure be that these were used on plates? In my mind the glazes don't have much space to flow would just puddle in the middle so the top glaze would be in greater concentration. A bowl or a mug allows them to stretch and thin with gravity giving you the variation you like. Like a difference between using wax melts vs. a pillar candle. Wax melts leave a puddle and a pillar drips and flows...I have no idea what I am talking about. I use the glazes that my class provides
I also read that it can create an oilspot look over a couple of the other Celadons like Rainforest and one other I believe. I think that Snow is basically to mix with the other Celadons in the Amaco line to lighten that Celadon and/or create custom colors as they are all mixable with each other.
No more testing c-10 I say !
C-10 looks way better on top of other PC glazes!!
You can only say it's not good if you try it on top 😁.....one more test please....you have to try to replicate the original snow over river rock results.
Lol
You have to! Lol snow likes it on top. Serious awesome things happen when it is over not under.
In 2019 (I think), I got five PC glazes (PC-20,21,30,35,59) and C10 and made 16 test tiles. There wasn't a lot of mixing that happened. The only C-10 that ran was when I dipped it on the rim. My son (who got me started) said you really need to glaze at Cone-10 to get good running action. On one that I had C10 on the top coat it looked like cake frosting - no mixing/running, it just pulled away from the corners. Like you, I was looking for something inspirational to happen and none of that happened. The one that looked like it had the most potential was PC35(OilSpot) over PC21(ArcticBlue).
Looks like the horizontal application does not allow running and mixing or rolling of glaze over glaze. Instead it sits there one over the other. Your original kiln load that came out outstanding were mugs..vertical eye candy
The massive power of Loud Guy Green.
I'm surprised to see that you have done none of what amaco advertises this glaze for. C-10 and C-1 obsidian are in the celadon line because they are used in the blending /mixing you can do, Before application, the celadon line lets you create your own custom colors based from any of the C-x options.
What happens if snow is the top glaze instead of the bottom? Bet there will be huge differences.
Nice ASMR shot at 2:50 👍
My kiln just got wired in. So can't wait to vacuum it out before I fire it the first time!!! I saw that comment and laughed. Do you ever glaze one coat and then wait 24 hours for the next? asking for a friend....
Are the disappointing results because you did it on plates? Not vertical stuff
Maybe you could test combos two ways...first one base then the top....and afterwards test the two colors inverting the order. That would be interesting.
Could it be that the glaze didn't have the vertical run needed to produce the effect you wanted ?
It would probably be a little different on cups Dante especially with massive texture
Snow always likes to be on top 😝
Snow is definitely one you put over stuff not under!
I like seeing tests...
You said it right you call it like it is Dante😄
have you ever really mixed glazes instead of layering them? say 50% of one glaze and 50% of another glaze mixed and then applied ton the pot? I have thought that it would be cool to do a pot glazed with the 50-50 glaze and an identical pot ;ayer glazed with the same glazes. Sound interesting?
Hmmm there is something I have wondered...and it might be something to test in a future video....
can some of the minerals used in Chinese paint such as azurite be used to color clay. There is a variety of inks made with azurite that is pounded dry until it is a very fine powder. The azurite is then boiled and skimmed of any froth. Then animal glue (wood working supplies like rockler carry it) is added and melted into the hot water until a liquid acrylic paint type visocity is obtained once it has cooled.
Read about it in a translated copy of Chinese Painting Colors, by Yu Feian, trans. Silbergeld & McNair.
Very fascinating book and I think it might be a must for the ceramic artists book shelf. Silbergeld dedicated his life to painting and studying painting and pigments.
I wonder if this ink paint was mixed into the pottery during the wedging process would it change the clays color and still survive the firing process? Azurite is extremely expensive in powder form (238 dollars for 100 grams). Another and probably cheaper way to test would be through clamshell white which is very finely powdered clam shell prepared the same way as above with azurite. Clam shell powder is sometimes used in the agricultural industry for giving calcium to chickens and a bag runs maybe 50 bucks from Amazon as a calcium supplement made with oyster shells and comes as a 50 pound bag.
Worse case scenario you learn how to make a white paint that you could use to decorate pots with using stamps or something....which could be also cool...
Just a tip. C-10 likes to be on top.
so... like your mom?
sorry that was a gimme.
@@autopilotceramics got em'
When you do 2 plates why don't you do c10 snow over logai green instead of both the same?
Because I usually sell my plates in pairs so if I decide to sell them they need to come as a set Glaze the same way.
Secondly I like to test for consistency so if a glaze combination comes out the same way twice I know I depend on it.
If it only happens sometimes it's luck. I need consistency.
@EarthNationCeramics ok so now you must do 2 plates of snow over Logan green etc to compare 😂
Try Snow on vertical surface on top not under. Around the rim down a third layer or snow icing on a cake. I agree not impressed with snow under the glazes.
I have a question about Lanettes opal. In my messing around with it...I don't find it likes to be on top.
All these friends I've done with it turn out fine regardless of whether it's on top or bottom. I will say I don't usually mix it with other light glazes. So I've only tested it on about four different darker glazes
Speak it Donte!! Lol
Ya Snow is definitely a top 🤓
This glaze crazed when used in tea cups.
Dante I love you I hope I’m in the 5.3
Obviously the glazes on the plates aren’t going to move like on the side of a mug! Please tell me you know this! You said you know what you’re doing with glaze and you usually do but I’m really second guessing you right now.
You did it in a faulty way.. love or hate me.. I am not the controlling type. Try it over your beautiful glazes for a lovely oil spot effect!
Donte rages at snow
It does better over glazes, not under
Snowed out
I'm sure this is obvious to you but....... the mugs are upright and the plates are flat. The glazes don't have the opportunity to flow down like the mugs. Soooooooo....
Flat plate= glaze doesn't break.
Put the snow over those colors, not under...
you know nothing john snow. Put it on a mug, rub it on a slug, its all about the secret sauce! Make sure to frown at the knees or you'll be flung with peas. Apply more spray fart as it will motivate adequate clay puffers on tuesday. subb muffin
Over snow is great under its literal garbage I have made that mistake so many times.
It crawled on me on the inside of a mug. Sucks
🐶 < 🐱 😂
Haha! That one yellow plate looks like a nipple