How Jazmine Almost Cancelled The Boondocks | Behind The Boondocks
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2024
- ►► How Jazmine Almost Cancelled The Boondocks.
With The Boondocks' finally getting syndicated, we should finally be leaving a world of controversy behind us, right? Yeah, not happening.
It's easy to forget that before Jazmine was seen as simply Huey's childhood friend, she was almost singehandedly responsible for getting the comic strip cancelled.
Jazmine sparked a furor of complaints and a longstanding conversation around multiracial identity with Huey's bluntness creating a sea of trouble and Aaron McGruder's intentions around creating the character. Let's get into it, and continue our deep dive into the world of The Boondocks comic strip.
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My first L is via Star Wars. Apparently George Lucas explicitly stated Star Wars was paritially based on the Vietnam war. My lack of Star Wars knowledge strikes back again. I'll freshen up next time and for the record its really cool that people were able to catch that and engage with the strip in a way i didn't. I've read these strips for years and never caught that. You learn something new everyday.
Oh my gosh, I never heard of this before either, and I’m Vietnamese. Now I’m reconsidering getting into the series to analyze its possible commentary given the controversies I’ve heard around the movies at least... 🤔
Lucas is a better artist than most Star Wars fans deserve. Love how Aaron points that out in the arc
I thought your 1st L was via your pronunciation of Dubois, did you not watch the show?
@@suspectv322 I'm so flabbergasted at how many of you who don't know who W.E.B DuBois is loool
@aPonderousChain I feel that way a lot, then I recognize that a lot of the problems with the later movies (and the fact that he basically stopped directing) are because he bought into his own great man narrative, (imo because of the ridiculous money he made from merchandising).
He no longer valued his collaborators in a collaborative art form, he STILL had great ideas but had nobody to work with to sand them into something great.
No because legit Jazmine’s psychological struggles with accepting who she truly is was one of my favorite things about the show and it should’ve been explored more.
Did you mean the comics?
@@DDarkestKnight exactly cause this was not touched on in the show AT ALL LMAOO. She was just a whiny lightskin mixed girl in the show that was all
@@dre691 I don't know what you were watching but she wasn't that either
@@DDarkestKnight In the show that's what it seemed like to me. It rarely rouched on her racial identity with being mixed but I don't believe that was the point of her character in the show
@@dre691 That wasn't the point of her in the show but I don't know where you got the idea that she was "just some whiny lightskin mixed girl."
3:31 Dawg. I’m not even gonna lie, the fact that they perceive an 10 year old biracial child as a sex symbol meant for the use of black men makes me think we gotta check their hard drives
Edit: Jazmine is apparently 10 not 8 also what are some of y’all on about
That one threw me for a loop fr, it is absolutely wild
Fr like if someone sees a little mixed girl as a sex symbol, then something’s obviously wrong with their mind.
That threw me off so hard too like.....that's a child? How did they get that impression....
Accusing someone of being a pedo is an easy way to villify them when you lack real insults. Look at what the modern republican party and their base does towards people with liberal leanings. Just call them a pedo and they're automatically the bad guys.
Get Chris Hanson on the line!
One Sunday strip I've kept in my mind all these years is Jazmine brushing her hair after a shower and it's in a ponytail all straight and she's got a big smile on her face, then she walks outside into the heat and her hair just instantly poofs out and she instantly has a defeated look on her face.
Wanted to include that one here, but it's later in the timeline.
There was another Sunday strip where Jasmine was complaining about her hair. Huey points at the clouds and asks Jasmine what she thought of them. She expresses how they looked soft and fluffy and how pretty they were. She gets frustrated and tells how Huey wasn't paying attention to her. He replies..
"Neither do you."
@@rahsaanthomas7030 The closest Huey has gotten to rizz
@@rahsaanthomas7030That was so kind-hearted of him to do that. If only Jazmine was aware of the point Huey was making.
@@EggEnjoyerthis shouldn't have made me laugh
The “breaking grandad” episode about the hair industry was the closest we got to Jasmine’s and Tom’s identity crisis. They were the first to try the wave cream instead of embracing their natural hair
No not necessarily for Tom cause he had a fear of going to jail there is also the whole usher episode he displayed his insecurities with Sara but once that show went mainstream they wouldnt greenlight alot of stuff man AARON had them hot!
A breaking bad/better call Saul crossover?
@Lemuel928 yes.
I very truly hate when people say things like "comics are about making people laugh" like jfc imagine living with the mindset that art exists solely as a disraction from reality
It’s especially annoying when it comes from certain comic book fans getting mad whenever stories bring up real world issues, as if it’s suddenly a new thing or something.
Wait until they find out that old superhero characters were created to bring hope for the people during war.
@@etoileshine1011 That would only reinforce their point, as those comics were made to distract from the reality of wartime.
Reminds me of the right-wing push on Twitter to insist that all art must be pretty and pleasing to the eye (ergo modern art is bad because it is ugly).
Extend that logic to all creative media and that means music, movies, books, games etc. must only make us feel positive emotions and never dare attempt to reflect the full scope of the human experience. You'd have to wipe off almost all of the greatest works of all time.
And that runs parallel with the "x should only be escapist fantasy" line of thought.
Shallow retort.
It's takes like yours that will never let comics as a medium be taken seriously in the first place...
No one:
3:30 : This cartoon 8 year old is a real sex symbol hubba bubba, no surprise that McGruder made her so sexy
Like, how does a mf start writing that and not just stop themselves
People be weird sometimes. And by weird, I mean take a seat over there
Right I knew I wasn’t trippin
Legit had to do a double take because of that sentence. Like, wtf?
Fr maybe people just not need to talk about biracial people
Right?? When that popped up on screen my brain shut down for a second. Some of these people are seriously cracked out.
Ngl, as a nerdy "black" guy who is not American, it's weird when someone says I act white or I'm not black because I'm not "American." As a person who's looked at being "black" through many different lenses, I've come to the understanding that honestly I don't even think anyone is truly "black," at least not by someone's definition. There are so many definitions of what it means to be black or of African descent, and it's not like you can just ignore it, too. Race is such a complex thing that has shaped who we are as a people, but I think it's what divides us the most, too. I'm not biracial, but to a degree, I do get how it feels to not fit in with most of the "black" kids. But I think this really depends on where you are raised and what the "culture" around there is and how it's affected the black population within the area. But that's just my opinions.
It took me a while to find peace with a couple things, but one of them is certainly this.
We have to understand that a lot of people's ideas of blackness are heavily Americanised and influenced by pop culture, and it sadly impacts the way they receive and perceive black issues and identity across the globe. It does not invalidate your black experience, nor does it make it lesser than.
We spend our whole lives being taught about Americans. Many Americans spend their lives only being taught about themselves. Those who simplify the black experience to specific experiences are being naive and not worth losing your sleep over. Be yourself and do what gives you joy.
@@TheStorytellerAJI just think about the fact that most intelligent and profound black people in history would not beat the “acting white” allegations.
Frederick Douglass was most definitely “acting white”.
I think the boondocks kinda points this out with their MLK episodes.
If I’m more educated and aware of black history than any of the black people around me and the cost of that is being called white, then so be it. That’s just the cost. I wear it as pride almost because I know despite such an accusation, I care more deeply than most.
@@EggEnjoyerI’ll simplify is pal, most human beings are absolute shit for brains, and black folk are no different. Remember that and keep it pushing instead of letting it affect you
@@EggEnjoyer I won’t lie as I’ve gotten older, this take has been massively exaggerated. The issue isn’t coming from you being more intelligent, it’s how pretentious and full of yourself it can typically come off. Even your comment comes off as pretentious, “If I’m MORE educated and aware of black history than ANY of the black people around me and the cost of that is being called white,” this notion of knowledge = whiteness isn’t how the term “acting white” even started. It comes from you disassociating yourself with your blackness to get ahead in life and a byproduct of that was knowledge (i.e. Tom.) Perfect example, Uncle Ruckus, at no point in the story are you mentioning him acting white. Even though he has a romanticized view of them and believes himself to be white, the audience looks at it as comedic, but he’s truly on the other side of the coin of Tom. This border between “acting white” and being a “self-hating bigot” through Tom and Ruckus is a motif throughout the Boondocks. The idea of tailoring your responses to the demographic you’re speaking to is a theme of the “MLK” episode. Throughout the episode, MLK is trying to elicit change in ways he sees effective (which is why the episode stating he had come out of a coma was genius by Aaron) failing, trying the conventional method for the time period (writing a book and trying his hand in politics) with that failing not only to captivate his community, but also being bashed by the other side. It was only when he took a step back and looked at how his people had changed was he able to formulate a response that finally elicited change. I say that to say if multiple people are telling you “You’re acting white,” then it may be an issue with the way you tailor your response. I’m sorry if my response comes off as a ramble. I just woke up and what you said is something I hear far too often. Chances are I’ll probably edit this and elaborate, or I’ll just do that in a response to you.
Nah, sometimes it's stupid shit, I've been called that in the past just for liking to read, tho I was not called white I was just called an alien by a dumbass kid.
But that's exactly why you don't listen to folk acting like that, because they are just dumb.@@CIavis
I like Jazmine and her sympathetic protrayal. Huey was insensitive when he kept insisting that she's 'denying being black' and is his major blind spot
She is denying being Black tho 😒. I agree Huey is insensitive at points and as a revolutionary he should be able to walk her thru the challenges of her biracial experience of Blackness with love but Jazmine fundamentally misunderstands Black identity and is alienated from her history and culture by both parents. Huey understands and he literally tries to stop the Dubois from chemically damaging their daughter’s hair. Black women and hair trauma is common but Jazmine wouldn’t/couldn’t know. Jazmine is fairly adamant that belonging to the “Black” category makes her uncomfortable. Her perspective is that her dad is Black but she’s something different. Encounters with racism are what break her illusion that she can self define, which is yet another part of the Black experience.
@@joshuaingram6732 Everything you just said illustrates Huey's character flaw. He's unsympathetic to Jazmine's lack of knowledge, it's not her fault her parents shielded her from "blackness." He tries to make her feel sorry about something she has no control over
@@ogreface8 my disagreement wasn’t with the flaw in his approach. I explicitly acknowledged it. But when does he try to make her “feel sorry”? He’s blunt and teases her naïveté but when does he disparage her? Also as a Black child himself why is Huey not extended the same empathy considering he’s on the receiving end of a lot of Jazmine’s anti-Black rhetoric she inherited from her parents?
If anything Huey repeatedly tries to show Jazmine how she’s harming herself. Think about that lemonade stand episode. He goes out of his way to explain to her she’s invested in something harmful and she willingly engages that system for her own benefit (a pony) and accuses him of acting in bad faith. Meanwhile, Huey is about to pass out from his misguided one man protest but where’s his help? Quite often he’s left to fend for himself. He’s a kid too. He’s not invincible. And yet the episode ends w him fighting to break Jazmine out of her contract and giving Jazmine his scarf in an act of care. I get his position as a know-it-all stand in for the author’s perspective sometimes makes it harder to see his innocence but there’s more than enough evidence of his vulnerability.
I feel Huey means well but doesn't know how to phrase things in a way that is kinder and gets people to come to his side.
His abrasive nature and self-rightousness keeps others from listening to him or accept his help. He likely wanted to help Jazmine come to terms with her blackness and wanted to prevent her from being screwed by Ed Wuncler, but his nature makes her more angry and not listen to him.
@@joshuaingram6732growing up black means you aren’t innocent nor worthy of grace. Everyone else is a victim of your existence and it is your responsibility to coddle them through the harm they cause you bc you’re never the victim.
This wound is so deep he didn’t realize it himself to acknowledge most importantly Huey is a child.
Jazmines struggle is something that needs to be explored more.
its so fucking crazy how bad mfs can miss the point. I mean im white, but I've never seen Jazmine as the butt of any of those type of jokes. she isn't a character that exists to get dunked on and I actually think she, and what she represents is actually really brilliant. I love her character. mcgruder never seems to just frivolously invents a character. it seems to me like every single aspect and detail is there for a reason.
Jazmine is a great example of what light skinned mixed girls go through. We struggle in finding beauty in big hair when everyone around us makes jokes and tease while asking downright stupid question that make you feel less than human. We aren't accepted by other black women but also denied by white women and it is isolating. You stand out and people let you know. It's hard growing to love yourself when no one else looks like you in media or in your family. Jazmine was one of my favorite characters and she reminds me of my sister so hard.
White's are racist, that's the point. Jazmine is nothing like y'all because she learns to love she is Black and will never be white or " mixed"
There is a huge denial about the way blk women and blk men in interracial relationships raise their kids differently. Blk men really seem to think they have erased their blkness due to having non blk wife and children, like Tom. They don't teach their kids anything. There was whole wave of biracial kids coming out about it on social media. Jasmine is extremely accurate as a character, especially as a girl, because beauty standards absolutely affect them more than biracial boys.
More like blk women seem to have a preconceived notion that anytime a blk man dates white women, it must be because he doesn’t respect blk women so is incapable of raising his biracial child to be black, but somehow when it’s the other way around, that white father is somehow going to raise his biracial child to be Malcom x…I’ll never be convinced that a biracial boy with a white father will be more black than a biracial boy with a black father.
Lol I would argue it's the same and even worse on the other side
it's the same thing with black women tbh
@@IIIv0no it really isn't. Mixed black girls with monoracial black mother's are definetley more prone to connecting with both sides of their culture but being proud of their blackness. It isn't about fetishisation. When you have friends on both sides you see a massive difference. Another thing is alot of black guys (not all) tend to hide their self hatred in their preferences. But you'll see them praising white women like they're angels whenever someone mentions black girls. Black women alternatively ussually marry more for love if it's with a white man, not because they want to erase their blackness.
That’s definitely a myth! First of all there’s no way to quantify such a claim! Secondly there’s a large number of blacks not aware of what it means to be “black” that aren’t mixed
My perspective on race coming from a Brazilian person
Jazmine and Huey are probably the most relatable characters ive seen in a cartoon. Huey's personality has a lot in common to mine's and Jazmine being biracial also is relatable to me since im Brazilian and people here are even more than just biracial, theyre literally everything. I never understood the duality that (usually people from the US have) when it comes to race. For them it seems like a bigger problem, you either gotta be white or black, while in Brazil, a country that over 50% of the population is mixed, you are just you, kind of. People here got many different features from many different races. Even the average white person in Brazil has some afro features like the hair or the nose. But yeah, its weird to see that Jazmine is considered controversial for some public in the US, even though for my country, she would just be the average citizen.
That was an interesting read, thanks for the insight.
It’s so bad in America that when people would jokes about the character Lucio from over watch being black, they’d retort by saying he isn’t black, he’s Brazilian. They’re completely oblivious to the African population and lineage in Brazil, they don’t even know that there’s a lot of Africans there. But it isn’t just an American issue. 70% of people in middle and South America identify as white. These people would not be called white in the US or Europe. Even in the Dominican Republic, many people do not acknowledge their African lineage and don’t identify as black.
The idea of being black has been smeared on a global level.
@@EggEnjoyer I feel like people need to be more open about racial diversity, it really isnt as one dimensional as a lot of people say. And to my latino folks, they gotta stop following european/north american standards, we are way more diverse than the average european country and i dont see why we need to be like them in any way, it frustrates me. Last year that was a girl in my school that had the same skin color as mine, if not slightly darker and she would call herself white while calling me black, and she also had mixed/white parents. At this point its just some crazy colorism and lack of respect for diversity honestly... I dont call myself black because i know i got a diverse family and that ill never go through what someone with a darker skin color than mine has been on, but at the same time i know that im not white and will never be seen as one cause thats not what i am
Race is not nearly as rigid as some people might have you believe.
@@TheStorytellerAJThe Original Comic Strip Jazmine Dubois was Huey’s Tipping off point. She was quite intelligent like him but more free spirited and open minded. The Pilot Jazmine was also pretty much the same. The eventual Jazmine in the Animated Series was toned down to be completely child naive because Gabrielle Soliei ended up voicing her.
my favorite character when i was little and watched the show and read the comics!!!!
Kinda wished she was in the show more.
Same Harry!
10:52 George Lucas is pretty anti-war, and is on record saying that the Vietnam war was a big influence on him while writing the original trilogy. So, I don't think Huey is reaching THAT far. It definitely has an intentional anti-imperialist message in there underneath the popcorn entertainment.
I really need to know where Jazmine learned to do corn rows. 😂
Her mom probably UA-camd it
@Sheljackson the comics came out in 1999, youtube wouldn't be a thing until 2005
If anything Jazmine knowing how to do cornrows was either am oversight on Mcgruder's end or a cousin on her dad's side taught her
@@demontigress24As early as 1997, black people on the internet had posted tutorials on how to do cornrows, with text and pictures. It's possible she looked one up.
@@morganqorishchi8181 Books are also a thing.
@@morganqorishchi8181 that and tom probably has parents and siblings that taught her
Im half black and dont act like other black people apparently. I just act how I do, race be damned. Not gonna let simebody tell me how to act because the color of my skin, or assume there's some degree of self-hate cuz I don't like the same things or talk how they do.
Yeah, that’s just goofy misnomers to project their own monolithic narrative on Black identity.
Blackness is vast and far extended due to culture, assimilation, and ethnicity.
In other words: racism is technically a brain-dead idea that we’re slowly working as length to prove ad false.
Ppl think race=culture=personality
Exactly, people are obsessed with the race and openly attack someone who says that they don't care what race you are or just don't see race. Claiming that not caring about what race a person is is somehow racist. My dear mentor was a black man that actively fought for civil rights in the 1960s and he was devastated by the way the black community was acting in the last 15 + years. He said that their focus on their race and trying to build "black culture" and especially the blatant racism that it entailed was spitting in the face of everything that they worked so hard to build. That all this afrocentrism, black supremacy, and anti white racism was literally the opposite of what they wanted and the message they pushed. He also believed that it would come back to bite the blacks if they didn't shape up and learn this soon.
happy he passed before he saw what has happened in the last 5 years. The sorrow would have killed him.
Sadly for so called "half blacks". Whites are racist see you as Black and enjoy being racist to black people..
I'm half Israeli half Ethiopian. I've always been "too Black" or "not Black enough". Add on to this I've lived in Santa Clarita my whole life and was brought up Jewish. So I was raised "White" according to my mom's side of the family.
It is kind of funny how most of the characters like Grandad and Ruckus are protrayed as athletic-like from time to time.
Even though they are old man, they definitely run, swim and fight like young people.
Grandpa keeps himself in shape. Drinks orange juice, runs, takes care of himself. People can stay athletic well into their 80s if they take care of themselves
@@juannaym8488facts
The controversy surrounding Jasmine's role is largely rooted in the polarized American cultural perspective. In less polarized countries like the UK or Brazil, Jasmine's role might have been appreciated for the a genius it was (While it is to others). Criticisms seem to interpret "soft points", that subversively project insecurities by dismissing the sophisticated and serious satire that Aaron skillfully incorporated into his work. This proves that Aaron fulfilled his radical role as a truthful writer and artist by creating a thought-provoking and groundbreaking masterpiece just based on some of the dumb extremist public reception.
3:28 WHAT?????????????
I had to do a double take to make sure if I heard that part correctly.
@@truegraham6780they called a cartoon lil girl a sex symbol, and didn’t think twice on whether what they said was tad bit creepy
I legit choke on my food when I heard that. I was like “THIS CAN’T BE REAL?”
I feel like I should call CPS on them for calling Jazmine a sex symbol
I'm glad someone mentioned this because what the actual fuck
I'm multi racial; blk, white, native American(also latino), middle eastern and Polynesian to name a few. I always grew up in a household where it was always encouraged to love every aspect of yourself. Ik my heritage and wore it. Others would try to exclude me, saying I didn't count, telling me what I am and am not. They tried saying they had the right to dictate who and who couldn't celebrate their heritage, their ancestors. I come from many wonderful people and I plan to always and forever celebrate and honor them. No one can take my identity.
Tiktok always makes fun of biracial people
That’s a goofy take. How are they gonna remove you from a group when you exists? 😂😂
@Theohybrid For a sec, I thought you were saying my life experiences were a goofy take lol. I had to reread that, was not thinking right. But yeah, those people are weird and illogical lol
Sadly those people exist but you gotta keep moving forward
This is deep, basically a bunch of traitors and white supremacists attacked Mugregger’s right to freedom of speech and expression. What Jazmine is going through is definitely something lots of half and half kids go through. In Japan there’s literally half Japanese and half black kids that get harassed by their peers because of their curly hair. What Jasmine is facing is real life stuff and the peanut gallery is trying to shut this man up! I want this comic to be animated! Boondocks must comeback! And Mugregger must be given 100% freedom to say and write whatever he wants!
McGruder sure does have the right to free speech! You tell em’!
I live and grew up in a Maryland suburb and I've met all these archetypes.
This is wild to me as someone who is mixed and grew up constantly picked on due to my light skin. I actually used boondocks as one of the few mediums that helped me get thru some of the hardest times growing up.
That A.D. powell was definitely projecting and making everything about jazmine about her.
As someone who is a light skin mixed person who considers themselves, both black and mixed, i actually really liked the character Jasmine found her incredibly realistic portrayal of mixed people and also the fact that. There was a reassurance that yeah, if you're biracial, you are also black. IDK I am also someone who is raised by the black side of my family, so my experience Is slightly different from another biracial person, but....😅
i feel like the animated adaptation should've focused more on this side of Jazmine..
The pilot did? I think she was phased out for the more adult animated fare. It's interesting to think about.
@@TheStorytellerAJ i meant the main show.. but yeah, i agree, it's indeed interesting
I think she's free to identity as white or black, but preferably both. Despite the history around it, I don't think it should be seen as bad if she identifies with one side of her race. Isn't it a bit counterintuitive to say it's bad for her to "act" or "identify" with her white side and say that it's only right for her to do so with her black side?
I have yet to meet a biracial person (that’s mixed with white) that doesn’t hate their white side and refuses to acknowledge their white parent, no matter how loving that parent is.
@@BlackSheepNara because there is more to gain from the other side, being white is treated as a bad thing now
@BlackSheepNara it's because of the ever increasing racism being pushed by the black community. This racism is especially against whites and mixed people. The mixed kids are basically told they have to hate their white side or they aren't black and will never be accepted by anyone "because the white side will definitely never accept you but we're willing to give you a chance." It's complete manipulation and blatantly racist.
It's really wonderful seeing someone cover the old web and newspaper comics where Boondocks got its start. I'm 43, and I was reading newspaper comics for about two decades by the time Boondocks was being nationally syndicated. These days, I don't think people understand what an achievement it was to be nationally syndicated. There was rarely a push for "young blood" on the newspaper page. Newspaper readers would complain at the slightest change, so if one paper drops, say, The Lockhorns to publish The Boondocks, there's going to be many angry letters. For a strip like The Boondocks to even be given a chance was really shocking. It was so bold. What Aaron did was a real accomplishment.
I never expected to relate to a fictional nine year old biracial girl since I always hated my natural hair too. I would always keep it low until I turned 14. Around that time, I started to express my "emo-ness" and got back into Linkin Park. When I saw that Mike Shinoda had this really cool red spiky haircut, that's when I knew that's what would make me truly me. I did get my hair straightened before and loved it but I still hate my natural hair lol. In the future I will just curl it as an alternative.
Very informative video. I never had the chance to look into the comic strip stuff before I lost my sight so any videos on this content is a fun listen along with the context surrounding it.
I hope my audio isn't too bad!
OG here… Bro in 1998, methodman wore goggles in a number of appearances, including Triumph…. Young black males between ages 14-20 were wearing goggles as if we all rode motorcycles.
My dad was about 60 when I was born and my mom is Filipino, so I've been the black sheep in both sides of my family and amongst my peers, pun intended. One parent was born and raised in an entirely different generation and had the perspective of decades past, and the other parent was born in the East so their perspective was completely different in it's own way from the "Modern American" experience. All my life I've been told that I am black, yet also not black enough. I grew out my hair because I felt like it, yet I gravitated towards a lot of "white" music and interests. I've been told I'm the "black friend that every white group has" and on some occasions I just brush it off and other times I am irked by it. I've also gotten comments on both sides of the coin where I'm told that I speak eloquently or professionally, yet with others they tell me I must be bothered by people telling me that I speak well. In reality, I only do so because that's what my dad wanted and I respect and value him as my dad so that's what I did.
I guess the main takeaway from this is that with the dualistic aspects of cultures coming together, the only thing that should matter to you is how you internalize all of these things and what you put back out. You don't have to force yourself to be in a rigid identity if you don't want to, but you also don't have to be ashamed of it nor overidentify more than what you feel as a way to compensate for not being fully "there".
So yeah, I guess be yourself lol
God i experienced that too this comforted me.
Bro I struggled with this and I very much black black no mix just black as hell. It most had to do with going to private schools and what not growing up. I kinda leaned toward an general idea that I was just "american" in hopes of escape judgement and perceptions from people. So glad I grew out of that. Wasn't too hard because I never really vibed with the "american" ideal anyway. I just wanted to get away from being treated a certain way.
When I was a little girl, I also struggled with my curly hair due it having multiple different textures since I'm mixed, so I related to Jazmine a lot.
What I liked about Jazmine was that she was just a nice, NORMAL girl!
All the crazy characters, and there was just this pure, innocent, sweet, little girl,
who donates Riley's millions of candy bar dollars to charity without a second thought
because she's just so wholesome like that.
Hot take, Aaron doesn't really know how to write female characters, she could have been better in the cartoon with actual depth
Post 2004? ...Yeah.
Right now, there's not much to base it off so far. Though, he certainly seems to lean to male characters.
I see that from that perspective, but I always thought he would maybe explore it more if season 4 wasn't crap 😅
That's not a hot take that's just true
Fair but I don’t think he has intended to write her as such. She’s more a symbol for the biracial American lost and not sure where she fits in the world. I think had he been looking for the female nuance found; especially as it relates to race, he’d had explored that but instead, it’s mainly been the racial dynamic rather than boy meets girl than one race meets biracial.
I think my issue is claiming multiracial people as one race is that it denies the differences in socialization and access to opportunities that are largely denied towards monoracials. There is a problem with multiracials, particularly those mixed with Black, being a shamed of their Blackness because of how anti blackness is ingrained, even into the people who fit the label. At the same time, restricting multiracials to their Black side *is* naive. Because it denies the different socializaion and access to opportunities these "just Black" people have, due to having ethnic white proximity.
Even in the US with the one-drop rule. There was a huge difference in how mixed kids with white moms vs mixed kids with Black moms were treated. The former were less likely to be seen as Black because acknowledging Blackness would defy the "white purity" of their mothers, whereas the children of Black women were labeled Black to absolve white fathers from responsibility. And tbh, this sometimes persists in the modern day given how historically some Black Men have pursued white women as a revenge against the white man to marry out of Blackness, whereas Black women are still treated as the burden of proof of Blackness due to normalized devaluation of them.
You see a clear difference between Mixedness and Blackness in acting, where actresses like Zendaya, Amandla Stenberg, and Yara Shahidi are granted opportunities more than even monoracial light-skinned Black women, because their white heritage puts them above.
And then the "just be Black" thing sometimes falls apart in other countries like South Africa where categories like "Colored" exist and there were systemic differences made between Indigenous South Africans and multiracial counterparts as a buffer between the Boers. Are Mixed (with white) people white? No. Does that make them "Just Black?" The social and systemic differences made between them and monoracials says otherwise. Which is why I think Afro-denial is so rampant? Because how can one identify with an experience that they're actively denied, whether by their parents or the ones who maintain mixedness as a buffer.
Recently I’ve been seeing more and more people saying that mixed people are NOT black and shouldn’t call themselves black which has been so weird to me especially considering most of the people saying this are “pro-black” liberals. And is it just me or do people some people in the black community seem to have a weird obsession with biracial women’s race much more than biracial men? Men get the light skin jokes meanwhile women have people policing their identity.
@@parisortiz8731It's largely because mixedness effects women differently than it does men (intersection of race and gender). And most famous mixed women acknowledge this by talking about their experiences treated as the "palatable Black" due to their white proximity. I never even said that mixed people can't call themselves Black. I'm saying that the insistence that they are "just Black" is contradictory to history or white lineage granting opportunities, especially if it comes from the mother.
I'm not even denying the blackness that Mixed people have, I'm just saying that there's a historic reason why Mixed people deny their Blackness, and it's largely because the state and their parents deny them Blackness. They're not Black because they're propped up against Black people, they're just not White either because of the Blackness they're allotted.
In south Africa coloured people people don't have the same experiences as black people so they don't have anything to deny.
@@parisortiz8731it’s almost as if you didn’t even read what op said and just think people are picking on the poor half whites. It’s the way y’all miss the point and instant start making mixed people these victims when they’re stating a truth you just dont like.
@@PrincessPisces00I think both you and op took this person's contribution as an attack when to me I read it as another side to the same issue. Both things mentioned can and do exist at the same time.
I'm old enough to remember all of this. I remember reading the comics as an 11yr old and thinking "Why are people so angry?" I was often the only black person in an entire city or town. These were feelings that i had to deal with.
Anyone who is angry about Jazmin doesn't know what is like to be the only black person or be the victim of actual overt racism. The struggle between survival in a community or violence and outcasting.
Beaten in front of a crowd as a child for being black talking without being spoken to.
Called an animal by a friend's parents and confirmed to a welcome mat. (That friend told her parents if im not allowed in the house then she isn't either)
As an 8 year old i had to explain to a teacher that i couldn't do an assignment because i was black so my family tree only went back a few generations. She cried apologizing because i was the only black kid she ever taught in her 40 years as a teacher and never thought about it. I got an automatic A.
I was once told by another black person as a kid "Black people that read too much is whats wrong with us".
Growing up not being able to meet the local euro-centric standards of beauty because of black heritage really fucks you up.
You should have seen my school. We had a race gang of black students who used their "victim" status to literally threaten and rob white students. The principal was black as night and who throw the book at anyone accused of racism. No matter how ridiculous the claims or if you were even there on the day you supposedly did it. If you were white and the accuser was black you were always guilty.
The gang would threaten and force the white students to do what they wanted or give them what they wanted on this threat. I fought this gang for 4 years straight, and they finally lost their power the year after I graduated because the principal was caught committing overt racism against the white students and literally tried to justify it as whites being lesser to blacks. Seriously. And so he got fired and replaced.
Such a sad world we live on where blatant acts like this can happen and people will still deny that there is any discrimination against whites or even declare that you can't be racist towards whites. It's all insane
It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't sort of thing. As a Mixed person if you say you're Black there are people who will make sure to remind you that you aren't and if you say you're Mixed then you will deal with people will tell you that you only identify as Mixed as a way to deny your Black side and associate closer to with White side. In reality most people that identify with Mixed see it as just as an honest statement about who they are and they aren't trying to deny anything about themselves. Most Mixed people I've come across tend to identify more closely with Black culture but this also depends on a variety of factors in their upbringing and as a result Mixed people tend to have very nuanced identities and develop a skillset where they know how to navigate in and out of the cultures that make up their background.
I'm amazed that at this stage I can still BE amazed at how absolutely, mind-numbingly stupid my people are. Just...ugh. Great video, frustrating reality.
I can't relate to the afro denial. Grew up in the south, mixed, with Caribbean relatives, got teased for reading/studying/nerd/doing white activities, and the insults went through one ear and out the next. Those taunts hurt my sister badly, but me, I couldn't give af. 99% of my friends in one state are blck, 99% of my friends in another state are white, 99% of my friends now are from Africa... I've been to every continent, dated every race, and every so often, still, someone has to hit me in the head and reminded me, "hey, wyd? You're black!" Ah... lol... almost forgot! Preciate ya!
Some of the 99 stripes are in "because I know you don't read the newspaper" if you need help looking.
I'm not biracial myself, but I've always pitied those who felt like they had to "choose" or disliked one part of themselves. They should be able to embrace every side of themselves and love themselves equally. Especially children who aren't allowed to explore each sides of their culture properly.
Yes I'm biracial and I'm constantly made fun of for it and then shamed for talking about it
Oh god, finally someone with common sense.
This whole "pick a side" bullshit is too tiring. Thank god im brazillian.
I love Jazmine sooo much- what a well thought out character. I’m not mixed but I still relate because I was called white washed and I wasn’t as outspoken as my cousins and other family members. One episode that stood out was when grandad took everyone to the movies and she was scared. 😭💕😂😂ALSO when she got the perm and her hair was stretched out- I felt so seen when she couldn’t stop looking in the mirror and called herself “the most beautiful girl in the world.” because seeing yourself thru a Eurocentric lens as a CHILD for the first time- will totally make you feel like that.😅😂
Jazmine's always my favorite. There's a lot of nuance to her particular experience of being multiracial that flies under the radar because the show just makes her the butt of the joke so often. There's this bizarre sort of privilege to being "raised white," for lack of a better term, because you don't act like you're "supposed to," and it confuses people. You end up sidestepping a lot of people's individual racism because they can't fighre out what kind of racist to _be_ to you. And when so much of the experience of being a person of color arises from that experience of racism, and when you know you've been spared from the worst of it, it feels _weird_ to claim that identity for yourself. It's not just internalized racism, it's also this weird kind of impostor syndrome. You don't know your own people, you always feel apart from them, and they don't _feel_ like "your people" because of that. You missed the crucial window to learn what it's like to be what you look like. And there's a part of you that's comfortable in that privilege, because, like, being the target of racism _sucks,_ man! And yet, despite all of that, you still have the skin, you still have the hair, you can't be white, not that you would want to either. So yeah, there is that sense of floating, and loneliness, and a kind of gut rejection to actually claiming a label that it should otherwise be your birthright to claim, just because you don't feel like you've actually _lived_ it.
And this is why we all play tieflings in D&D. That and the bisexuality.
First time watcher i was going to just scroll past this but i saw it said “uploaded 15mins ago” and i said “hm let me check them out” AND IM GLAD THAT I DID this was very well said and done 💯
I feel like a lot of those people missed the point of Jazmine. I feel like people who are bi-racial (idk if thats the correct term) or even people who are multi-cultural may also be able to relate as well, although both of those seem to go together as well
In love with the way you did this man. I was even considering doing a video about the original comic strips cause I use to actually read this when it came out back in the day lol. I did however do a video about the style and look of the original unaired pilot compared to the comic strip itself. Watching this is taking me back fr
As a mixed kid growing up with a single white parent, in predominantly white neighborhoods, it's really *really* fucking hard socially in those early years of childhood. Sure, black culture and black art and black entertainment will be enjoyed by white people into high school, when they themselves are finally exploring who they are as people, but until that process of introspection begins you are always the "other", the person who is not like the others.
Jasmine, and her relationship with Huey, is vitally important to both of them, to the comic, and to the readers. Huey is a black nationalist. Because Jasmine is black, he naturally has empathy for her. Tom is the character she would become, if not for Huey, it is easy to see the world where she denies her race due social pressures, for personal and professional acceptance. Huey, being as genuine a friend as he is, is important for her, because no matter her bites back at him for being how he is, he is one of the only people who accepts a part of her that she can not change and who will point out how the world is trying to shape her into something to fit into it, rather than allowing her to shape herself into something they must accept.
But... would Huey even be her friend if she were *NOT* black? How many white friends does Huey have? Huey has his own agenda, and while he cares for Jasmine, he also is a "radical". If Jasmine did everything Huey's way, she basically would risk becoming the same kind of cynical, embittered person Huey is, which for Jasmine, is *exactly* the same as what all her other friends are doing, just on the flip side of the coin.
What we get from Jasmine is a girl who is clearly intelligent, quick witted, and kind who is sat between two worlds. Huey, the black world, which wants her to be black and proud of her blackness to hell with what white people say, and the white world, which sees her blackness as a curious thing, unsure what to make of it, and poor Jasmine is stuck there. She *KNOWS* what Huey is saying most of the time, she *KNOWS* what her white friends are saying most of the time. She is a great character because of how she handles these two worlds, and how she struggles to handle these two worlds.
Every character in Boondocks is a representative of aspects of blackness in america. Jasmine is no different, and therefore, no less important. When she's confused about Huey's radicalism it's rarely because she's straight up ignorant, it's because she's confused how doing what Huey is doing is going to change anything -- because chances are, whatever Huey is doing, *isnt* going to change anything, and it's important to point out Huey isn't always right. Jasmine is a humanizing element, because her existence allows the critique of both white america, and black america.
God fucking bless Jasmine.
I kinda face Jasmine's insecurity in the opposite way, I'm Hispanic yet I don't speak or understand Spanish, and so many people (Including Hispanics) said that I don't "Look Hispanic" which just makes me feel like I don't belong and therefore I have trouble connecting with my culture because I feel like I can't, because I don't belong. And in turn that something is wrong with me.
This is how I see it (I'm black so I can only explain it from my perception about my race) but if you're Hispanic, there is nothing you need to do to prove it. If you want to learn Spanish then do it or if you want to know more about your culture then do it because its YOUR culture. Its one of the only things you are entitled to in this world. No one can make you not Hispanic its literally in your DNA and apart of you no matter how you act. You don't need to do certain things to prove it. If you want to be more involved in the culture then do it! No one can stop you, and if you don't you don't have to. Hope that helps❤
@@parisewellington3664Honestly something I needed to hear, thank you. :)
I remember a dude from work who was mixed with White & Mexican and do was surprisingly knowledgeable.
The Mexicans were colonized by Spain, speak their Spanish language, yet have the gall to criticize you for not being “Hispanic”? That’s rich.
I mean what about the natives or Africans that intermingled with the Spanish (perhaps others like the Portuguese in Brazil) population or the others throughout South America?
It’s silly because you likely look like someone from Latin America because they’re pretty much any and all colors.
I’m Hispanic and feel the same way, except I do speak Spanish fluently
This video is making me realize that I need to re-read the comic as an adult. I read it as teenager and I liked it, knew it was political and satirical, but I know I can understand a lot more if I read it today.
Just pausing to read the pages on screen (instead of doing my chores).
The comics seem to be much more meaningful than the animated series, and that is usually the case with adaptions.
As a light skinned woman myself my white mom never taught me how to do my hair.
I’m a Cape Town South African and I can say I appreciate your videos man. I’ve been a boondocks fan since 2012 and I can say your videos are informative. Keep it up Brodie 🤝🏽👊🏾🫂
3:30 damn the self report is crazy.
The fact that this dialogue is necessary is why the show exists. No point in arguing unless the subject is divisive. No point in feeling strongly about issues that have already been addressed and resolved
I remember reading the comic strip whenever I could as kid. It always stuck with me as a strip that was way more elevated in concept than any of the others that were usually just fluff by comparison. I understood Huey's point of view often, and even felt like I got to understand the black experience in America to a limited degree. I had never read or knew why W.E.B. DuBois was known, and so I never understood the meaning behind Jazmine's character, but did understand as a multiracial person what her struggle was when you don't feel like you really belong to any one side of your heritage. And I guess that is the point.
Love your vids, thanks for using "I Wanna Kno"!
Honesty, your analysis and philosophy is eye opening. For the longest time, i wondered how society see different cultures outside of media. Thank you
Where can I read the leaked pilot script, as I thought that it would have been included in your list of citations.
I always go back and read my boondocks collection books every few years, so it's fun to see deeper into the lore
In all honesty, I feel nothing but sadness and empathy for Jasmine and those that live her struggle. The truth is, the "One Drop Rule" was created to disenfranchise a whole group of people from their fair share of humanity. All in order to justify someone else's selfish (and many times evil) desires and actions. That was true not only back during the days of slavery but, it remains true to this day. And I find it an equally evil thing for people who consider themselves "liberal" to act as if that Common law "Rule" doesn't still exist today. I have spoken to quite a few biracial people and it's a life and existence I dare say, I wouldn't wish on a curr dog. No matter what society one lives in, the invention of "racial" caste systems throughout the world has made the lives of biracials untenable in so many respects, because all societies demand that their people identify within that system. And try as they might, the biracial is caught in the mailstrom between two separate worlds. And while modern times have given its peoples many different additives they may wish to hide behind, and many different publically accepted labels they can use at the end of the day, race is still the #1 identifier used to differenciate people within a group. Especially in Western cultures. This is due in no small part to the insidious nature of the concepts of White exceptionalism and Black inferiority in the West (and really across the globe). For biracials, these concepts are a catch 22 of no correct answers. As they straddle both worlds and must choose which one best suits them. Yet, this is a fool's mission. As no matter what choice they make, they are right. But ultimately, they are also wrong. For a character like Jasmine, she CAN identify as white. As she has the genes and lineage to back up her claim. However, due to the "Rule," that one drop of African blood denies her the full benefits and privileges thereof. Because the all encompassing caveat to that lifestyle, is racial purity and mindset. Conversely, she can also claim heritage and pride from her African DNA as well. With its long lists of accomplishments and achievements. Yet, who wants to identify with the "losers" of the racial race? Which leads many biracials to feel conflicted and alone because while those "losers" may have open arms and welcoming smiles, most don't fully "trust" or "accept" biracials due to their "duel consciousness."
And therein lies the rub.
Biracials are not born or bred from testtubes. They weren't dropped off by some mysterious spaceship in the middle of the night. They were born of the coupling of two people who on some level claim "love" for each other. And it is within that moment, they must hold themselves accountable and their "love" for that child as the foundation of taking on the hard work and telling that child; the truth. Like Tom and Sarah (Jasmine's parents), too many interracial parents ultimate sin and betrayal is not fully explaining the full scope of what their children will have to live through. Because it's an uncomfortable conversation. Instead choosing to create a "safety bubble" of lies, omissions, and obfuscations. This is wrong and truly treasonous. I love the fact that Aaron included a character like Jasmine so much, BECAUSE she leaves no room for the lies. This conversation should be open, honest and it must be had between both communities in order for clarity and healing to begin. there is a small groundswell of people who live this experience that are trying to create their own separate identity of "mixed or biracial." While this might seem an innocuous and correct reaction. It is a theory doomed to fail. As it's goal is to delineate from both racial castes or even some that choose to say they don't like to "identify" as anything or want to be "labeled" as anything. These are both weak deflections in order to sidestep or get away from the hurt of having to be a part of a wicked system. It is my opinion that Aaron doesn't "hate" interracial couples, nor does the addition of Jasmine poke fun or make mockery of those that live this experience. But what he "hates" is the need for the conversation of the products of their decisions. That these people must CHOOSE at all. And Jasmine's inclusion by proxy is an inclusion of those people within the black (and white) communities, whose voices are hidden behind the rhetoric of Black power and independence and white denial. We should all be open to having biracials as our brothers and sisters. Because in this great, vast human family...they are us. And we are they.
With due respect, dude. I did read this and it was some great thoughts but, I say this:
Please break up your paragraphs.
You have a lot of good things to say but this will burn somebody out from reading this mountain of content that you have to say.
I agree that Biracial people should be the end-product of a multi-ethnic society. She shouldn’t have to deny herself and you’re also right in that her parents owe it to her to prepare her for this special section of reality as a mixed person.
She shouldn’t have to pick but also in the tv series, she kinda doesn’t but in the comic strip, she really is self-conscious or is in outright denial; which is the product of living with parents who were ill-equipped with the reality of having an mixed-race kid and the identity issues that would ensure.
I think you did have some good thoughts here.
Jazmine should be the perfect representation of an American but currently isn’t and is almost culturally-speaking, an cultural illegal alien ( in the past she would’ve been such as Trevor Noah in South Africa Apartheid hence his book “Born a Crime”.)
Good ahh video. Thanks for keeping The Boondocks still on people's minds, with enough community persistence we can maybe get a movie with the remaining recorded lines.
Ain't got much to add to the conversation, but yeah nice video. Jasmine deserved more attention in the series honestly and its also nice to see Huey and Sarah having some pretty interesting dynamics in the strips. I didn't even know she had a job much less as a lawyer and activist. Kinda wish we got to see more of that. Feels like we misses out on some interesting potential episodes, but I ain't necessarily saying that her series counterpart isn't something interesting to dig into as well.
I wanna read more of the strips, but its kinda awkward to do it now for the first time, cuz its hard to set a reading consistency for strips. With Peanuts I trued going over them year by year and I just got bored. Now I just jump to a random year on a random page and start reading whatever looks interesting.
i love reading these in the character voices from the show
Ooooh the point about Riley and Huey's seeing eye-to-eye really hit home. It's probably we me and my brother could vibe.
I'm loving this series so far
No one is forcing anyone to hate their hair or identy, and no one is forcing anyone to buy product.
Ugh, what's the beat of that song in the background? @13:45 ?
George Lucas has actually gone on record stating that the empire is meant to represent america and the rebels were directly based on the viet cong so Huey wasn't stretching it that far
YOO ITS HERE
Huey isn't reaching you dont even have to do death of the author for that star wars take. George has gone on record that luke n gang are an allegory for Vietnam and the empire is supposed to be America. Mr lucas was wacky dude he has also said he would rather make a movie in the USSR since he may not be able to complain about the state but other than that you are good.
What’s the background music 14:28
If you don’t mind me asking what’s the song at 13:40? I’ve definitely heard it before but don’t remember the name 😭
Never mind, the song list popped up at the end of the video
Where can i buy or read there's please?
13:28 this is a calvin and hobbes reference, also, which i think gives a lot of needed context for this lol. Like it's the exact same structure and tone it's uncanny lol, i havent looked at calvin and hobbes in a decade and it still hit me like a ton of bricks
The thing I love about McGruders style is how he can make you laugh and think at the same time.
Jazmine is biracial and it is hard to love blackness when blackness in America isn't the same thing in Africa. This is seen with the huge contrast between Huey and Riley even though Huey's blackness is arguably not true since he would had supported Janet Pinkett Smith's Cleopatra as well as the Woman King even though the vast majority of true Africans would not. So to insist Jazmine should appreciate her American Blackness as it is now called is also asking her to hate Africans.
what would you recommend be the best way of getting a collection of these comics? i find myself pausing to read each one and would like to just support the author at this point while having an easier time to read.
i see a few books on amazon, but nothing that looks like a complete collection. should i just grab one of each book?
There's no complete collection.
I'd always recommend A Right to be Hostile and All The Rage. Those are the two essentials. Other than that, you can also visit GoComics and read them all online.
11:22 while death of the author applies to every work of art, it’s not quite as big of a reach as you might think. George Lucas himself stated the empire was like the United States and the rebels were like the Vietnamese. While not about black colonial struggles it is ultimately inspired by colonial struggle.
Where can I find the comic strips did Aaron ever make an omnibus or collection of these?
He made a few. The ones I reccommend are:
A Right to be Hostile, Public Enemy No.2 and All The Rage.
That will mostly cover all the strips, outside some of the last ones.
Dawg when that bomb rush cyberfunk song came on I thought I was losing my mind I thought the game had taken over my life
20:14 back when microphones had the sound quality of a microwave
I've never seen this many Boondocks strips back to back. These strips are really sober in their analysis of topics, but a few ot them actually got me to wheeze, and that never happens with newspaper comic strips. The Boondocks is head and shoulders above every comic strip I've ever read.
What's the instrumental at the start of the vid?
David Banner - No Denyin'
@@TheStorytellerAJ Thank you 🙏🏾
0:30 Is it the song? Why do I keep hearing Grandad yelping?
David Banner - No Denyin'
It's a 9th Wonder beat, but this is a different version of the song I had to chop up myself. The yelps couldn't be avoided sadly.
@@TheStorytellerAJWas that done as a Hip Hop Doctrine callback or just coincidental?
Edit: Made it to the credits, answered my own question
@@Fooacta Yes. Expect a lot of a Hip Hop Docktrine stuff in this series.
27 minutes of calm low volume talking with chill jazzy music followed by an outro that has the same energy as "WHAT THE FUCK IS UP DENNY'S??????!" is really jarring ngl
Loved the video. If you see this and you could give me music recommendations? Songs our artist.
The bomb rush ost caught me off guard lol
I wish they explored Jazmine’s identity crisis and insecurities more in the show and comics.
You know she's mixed-race?
Sarah was ruined?? People just make anything to bring nonsense in a fandom
In the show she kinda was
i love how in depth you get in these videos, always the best analysis (´∀｀*)
Weird off topic question- is ‘negro’ spelled without an n at 1:06’s quote because of weird YT censorship rules or is that just a typo
These comics never should’ve left.
Un related, but you have a beautiful voice
Thank you for referencing AD Powell . I went down a rabbit hole and learned the word "hypodescent" now 👀 Reminds me of Khadija Mbowe's video on "racelessness" even though it was slightly different
16:35 “Let’s talk about Tom”
Quoting the line of that one inmate from that butty warrior episode?
“What’s it gon’ be Tom!”
"What'chu want Tom?!"
@@TheStorytellerAJ “But TOM here will be callin it LUNCH!”
Hey everybody