No because the gale concidering it as the player, i have seen videos of a elden ring bosses fight, and one of them doing supzr hight poise damages because he is the player who doing these damages
Please don't say the Lord's name in vain. He loves you so much He died the worst way, on a scale of perception unimaginable. A day for God is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day. God is the inward, and outward infinity of infinities, and He feels all feeling, sees all sight, hears all sound. The crucifixion of Jesus might have taken a day, but for God it was like a thousand years. Imagine being crucified for a thousand years. Jesus paid the wages of sin for all who will humble themselves, all who will read the Bible, learn their sin, acknowledge their sin, confess to their sin, ask for forgiveness, and turn from their sin daily. Mankind is more sinful then it could have imagined, but more loved by God then they could have hoped.
@@colinnixon7739midirs stance break only happens in 2nd phase if you've done enough damage, I've never seen midir be poise broken before that. And yes indeed only if you've hit the head enough times.
Midir is the best dragon fight in the genre imo. Especially if you're melee and want that knight vs dragon experience, nothing else really comes close in the same way. Because Midir likes to literally throw hands, and likes to fight dirty. His attack routine feels personal, almost like he can't stand that you're winning. He's swinging these hands like "Why won't you DIE! " Like the audacity of this tiny thing trying to kill him, and he can't even hit them. You can just feel his desperation in the fight as it comes to a close. Love that fight so much.
Exactly! Out of the 5,000+ hours I spent on the souls series, Midir was the only dragon fight the felt TRULY powerful. Him, Slave Knight G, and PRE-patch Radahn were the only fights that genuinely gave me that “ OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHI-” feeling. I miss the old Radahn😢
@@beast5290 there are two very different things: Game accurate, and lore accurate. I'll put you an example: Most of elden ring's bosses can beat the elden beast (in Game) although accoring to the lore the elden beast not only is an outer god, but the enbodiment of the greater will. And still in game most bosses can kill him So something that happens in the game does not make it lore accurate. If we were to be talking lore accurate then there is a high chance that the dragonlord would take this one. (Sadly since i am a huge ds3 fan) Hope you understood :)
Placi ices him every time if he doesn't get gimmick poise break and they actually made it to where placi hit em. This guy had to nerf and handicap placi and he was still putting up Hella fight
and placidusax is the dragonlord the strongest among all living dragons and the capable of bending time and space and controling the lightning bolts of heaven
it's terrifying to think that he's LESS powerful than he used to be because his Scales were corrupted by the Abyss he consumed. He was a descendant of Everlasting Dragons, who had scales which made them immortal. Those scales were ONLY able to be destroyed by Gwyn in his Prime, the same Gwyn who created the Sun and wielded the very concept of Light. There's a purebred Everlasting Dragon in Dark Souls 1, and because of it's scales it's literally impossible to kill in the game.
Poise and staggering aside, it’s cool to see how much of Placidusax’s moveset (and by extension some of the other dragons in ER.) are inspired by Midir. The exploding laser comes to mind- which has come quite a way! If I’m not wrong this dates back all the way to Bloodborne’s Amygdala’s, then moving onto Midir, and now placidusax’s ruin!
i'm really curious to see how the fight would have gone if Placi had hyperarmor or a way higher poise because he may get staggered every two hits he still manage to bring midir really low health every round, and even won once
@@walaxometrobixinodrink1727 Lol I’ve beaten Elden Ring plenty of times. The game shined with it’s gameplay, not it’s bosses. Look at my video where I beat Malenia.
Bubba placi missed everything cause the game wasn't working and the poise is wildy unfair cuz midor was written that way. No shot you get to sit here and say midir had it unfair😂
If Midir didn't win the majority, I would have asked for a redo! I've only died to Placid once on my 10 vigor run out of the 4 times I fought him. I've never beaten Midir without some few dozen deaths on any of my 7 play through. Gives me well warranted PTSD and anxiety every time I reach the final few bonfires of the Ringed City when he shows up.
Midir is the only fromsoft boss that i had to give up on, and come back to months later. I couldn't even beat him while being overleveled and using summons. He just cooked us all
This is a pure testament of how ridiculous midir is . ER bosses do higher damage than DS3 bosses in general and DS3 bosses do more poise damage . But here Midir was outdamaging ER's strongest of dragon who is a late game boss. Jesus!
Midir has much higher health and defense than most bosses though. His only weak spot is his head which is hard to hit because that means being in front of him the entire fight where he does all.his attacks 😂
Well Midir is like a DLC Boss. Not only that, but he's a finale secret boss. It's kinda expected for him to be stronger in that regard. Even Placidusax, a main game boss, could've been alot stronger himself.
@@manuellamanna8776 unlikely, Midir is Resistant to a lot of types of damage with Exceptions to Lightning and ironically Dark (Void) damage. I maxxed out the Wolf Knight Greatsword to fight him which has void damage and in all my battles never managed a stun.
@@erandigael2878 Turns out we now have a video of Midir fighting every ER bosses and Fire Giant came super close to killing him, because his rolls do absurd amounts of damage and multi-hit (one roll would do 2000-8000 damage to Midir).
Midir was like “let me teach you how to use that laser you stole from me, boy” A cool fight nonetheless, plaxi with lots of health and midir with poise break, i was cheering for midir gonna have to admit, bc i think he is the ultimate dragon fight in all souls series and design and lore counted too, anyway, the first elden lord fought well too and stood to his name.
@@kgbauo309 The original creator of the video did confirm that the laser did holy damage, and if you watch Nameless Rings video also showcasing Midir vs er bosses the laser did very little damage to maliketh who has 80% holy resist.
@@agentcd7806 he does after many hits (and especially in the head) he falls making him vulnerable to critical attack and his fire does limited poise damage it is just the modder abilities that are limited and he justify this by meaningless talking everything of normal dragons in Elden ring is reskinned from Midir
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 Midir's fire breath definitely does NOT deal little poise damage. If you've seen other BvB, you would see that almost all of Midir's fire attacks can near insta-stagger (poise break) bosses like Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, and even Yhorm. Though I do agree that Midir should probably have been poise broken at least once here. Also Midir's attacks are definitely not taken from normal Elden Ring dragons. (Face charge, laser breath, rush down with fire breath, etc. are unique to Midir)
And in the case of the midir critical hitbox only on the head and high resistance to all types of damage on the rest of the body... This is my favorite boss of all in the series
I just think it's funny that they made him hunch and crouch super low so you can hit him 😂😂😂 They just made placid fat and round so it looks less silly
This was amazing! Poor Grandpa, he only won once! I loved how smart was Midir sometimes, how in 5:20 stunned Placi before he used his nuke, 5:35 calculating where he woul fall to stun him and avoid the damage, or how in 8:45 he dodged Placi's attack and striked before Grandpa could use his fire against him. Chaos Silver Moon is underrated! PTSD: I use these videos to take photos of Midir, if you could have his full body in good postion, I would thank you beyond the Greater Will's comprehension!
well, takes about 2 wings until being stunned while the other requires an ungoodly amount of hits to the head for the same to occur I cannot help but feel as if Midir was less relying on smarts and more on his raw strenght still impressive, but just saying
I can't express my gratitude from how ecstatic this makes me feel. From the moment I fought Placidusax I could see the contrasting design compared to Midir. FromSoft made the ultimate dragon boss fight (Midir) but Elden Ring needed a new one and despite my personal disappointment of not getting an updated Midir (which the closest enemy to Midir would be a crossbreed between a Rune bear and Modern Dragon (and who knows maybe they will expound on the bear eating dragon lore and make that boss in the DLC)) but Placidusax worked and I love him, he's like a Isshin Ashina; not the spring chicken he used to be but he has mastered elemental manipulation and gained unique abilities never seen before from the context of their respective worlds. You also could totally picture a Sword Saint isshin-Placisudsax that could rip everything to shreds with brute force and unparalleled precision, but the thing is they already have a dragon like that; Midir. I love any great boss fight, and Placidusax is no exception. But my favorite dragon fight ever is still Midir and this video highlights his awesome raw power and stalwart persistence. I read some comments from midir vs placidusax forums and the the general consensus was that they are both great bosses (I'd say slightly more favored Midir's design but that might just be the "the OG is better" mentality, but who cares, people's opinions are inconsistent and easily swayed anyway. Just like, what you like duh) but Placidusax would absolutely win. I couldn't wait until an actual, vs battle would be made, and besides the upset at the start Placi getting over-powered was exactly what I was expecting. Although he put up a way better fight despite that, which was unexpected. I thank you Chaos Silver Moon and any other parties for modding Midir into Elden Ring, your skills are incredible. I am blessed to live in a time where a Godzilla inspired video game dragon got to fight a Ghidorah inspired video game multi-headed dragon.
Man, Midir is such a chad, he mops the floor with placidusax face, his only advantages are teleportation and that he has more lasers, other than that midir just stunlocks him
I love Elden ring so much. It’s incredible and the characters and story are insane. But there’s something special about dark souls which will always be with me. It brings so much nostalgia and memories to me. Both with enjoying the game, and times in my life as I played the game too.
And this is without Midir’s humanity attack. Which would probably deal some cheap damage (but I mean. It’s Midir. Cheap damage for him is still quite a lot)
I think one of the problems about thes battles for what I see, the ER bosses were made with much less poise than the DS3 ones, probably because they wanted us to be able to break it more easily as a mechanic than in the DS3 when few bosses really gives us some opening to do critical hits
And late game Elden Ring bosses have far more health points because they are balanced around a much longer game. Placidusax has 11,000 more health than Midir, it's fair. Either way, Midir poise breaks everything in DS3 as well. His attacks were designed to have high poise damage, so it is irrelevant in this specific fight.
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 he actually can, he just misses because his enemies are small but against bosses that are big, he whops damages that can produce five digits like with yhorm. Too bad po88 deleted his videos.
I was thinking about midir and the whole boss fight from the original Dark Souls game and started thinking, "Aren't we fighting a weaker state of midir?", and I thought this mainly because we beat him once on the bridge and sent him falling down into a very deep, so when we find him, he seems to be sleeping or just injured from the first battle and the fall all together, so this gave me the idea we are fighting the weak version of midir. His second phase could be his true strength, but I don't know. I am most likely incorrect, but it's a cool thought. Well, more of a spooky thought now knowing we won when midir was weak... imagine if we had to fight a full strength midir...
For those of you thinking placidusax lore wise should be stronger. I’d think again. Darkeater midir not only survived all of the wrath of mankind and monstrosities of the chaos. They also survived, and manipulated the abyss, only manus himself truly did this other than midir. Midir is also an arch dragon, and the only real one we ever see alive in any of the games. The arch dragons were the most powerful beings imaginable really. It took thousands of men and the wrath and guidance of what is practically god. Gwyn in his prime.
Midir always was the better boss in my opinion. I like Placidusax, he's a cool boss but Midir is just badass. Placidusax's laser attack is basically just stolen from Midir and then changed a bit, and then overtuned the damage of it so that it basically one shots a max level character in normal NG lol
They are incomparably different bosses, Placidusax is a dragon boss only in name, he is a turn based spectacle boss and he does that perfectly. Midir is a surprisingly well executed classic dragon boss only held back by usual big boss problems and by how basic his moves are. If Kalameet had his AI improved along with a bit of polish on his hitboxes he would be far better than Midir.
@@botondkunos1774Kalameet definitely was a product of his time. He's easily the most powerful dragon you fight in the Dark Souls trilogy, but DS1 didn't have the technology to pull off something spectacular.
Truly put into perspective how poise works between the soulsborne and ER, where er is closer to sekiro's posture bar and the rest of soulsborne is closer to an enemy flinching giving you 1 more hit
The fact Midir lazer is Holy damage means its not at its full power in DS3 very little amount had any dark resistance so the Eldenring bosses who highly resist Holy damage (except DLC bosses) taking that much damage is insane
I really liked that one video where it was Midir against all of ER main bosses. And he actually won against everyone except Maliketh and Malenia. There was also a Slave Knight Gael vid and he won against everyone except Godskin Duo, Rykard (Had literally 1 HP remaining), "Maliketh" (Gael died immediately after killing Maliketh) and Malenia. Malenia is just built that different
Malenia and Maliketh are pretty much impossible for any other NPC to beat due to the mechanics of their attacks. Maliketh deals gigantic percentile damage which is balanced around the fact that the player can heal themself, an NPC cannot. Malenias water fowl dance heals her, which is balanced around a player being able to intelligently dodge. NPCs cannot do that.
@@gmayzes7268There's this one UA-camr that actually uses mods to take control of NPCs, and many of the bosses have what it takes to beat Maliketh and Malenia when an actual person is directing their movements and not the AI that is based around fighting a player.
I mean, same for Placidusax. Both aren't even in their prime. Since Midir is like a DLC boss, it makes sense why he's scaled so high compared to Placidusax.
@@jatman9556Read the description, first three rounds the bosses are scaled to their original locations, second three they are scaled equally. Midir still wins 5/6, but you'll notice he's STRONGER in the second three rounds. Elden ring is much longer than ds3, the damage scales much higher. Also, lore wise, neither are in their prime, because midir basically has dark cancer and also is crippled just before his battle in ds3.
i supported midir because he traumatised me still one of the hardest first time bosses to me and it shows that in this fight he won the 2nd 3rd 4th round and he bodied placi in 5th and 6th with quick finishes he only lost round 1 due to luck 😂
2:10 This was funny. I could almost hear Midir's thoughts: "WHERE DID THE FUCKER GO?!? DRAGONLORD MY ASS! STUPID CHEATER, WHAT ARE YOU A WHIMPY VAMPIRE LORD, HUH? He transformed into a cloud to escape my claws, GET OVER HERE YOU SCUM!!"
It’s hard to really scale the dark souls bosses with Elden ring bosses because the Elden ring bosses were designed to be staggered while dark souls bosses really don’t give a fuck about what you hit them with they aren’t going down 😭
Placidusax : I'm the first elden lord truly and hard stone skin and king of all dragons Midir : oh so you eat abyss for lunch? Cuz thay are be taste funky
Midir is so much cooler than Placidusax, it's kind of funny, and if we went off of lore, it's safe to say Midir would flatten every dragon in Elden ring both in present and in their respective primes, prime Placidusax or Bayle might have a chance against present Midir, but even that's a little generous. Midir thought the abyss and won for thousands of years, most other characters can't even resist it for a few decades. He's also a member of a race that took five gods working together to bring down.
I'm sorry. Midir's downward fire breath seems to have failed to take effect due to different games and different settings.
Why does Midir get to stagger so much? That’s so broken and OP. Have you seen this in prior simulations?
What stagger?@@PWNINSWAGMASTER
@@PWNINSWAGMASTEReven in ds3 where staggering was hard,midir was the king of staggering
@chaossilvermoon it's when an opponent gets interrupt basically.
Also i have a question, how did you restore the fxr (the visual effects) for midir?
Even in ds3, midir's laser and flame breath can poise break almost anything, including giant boss like Yhorm @@PWNINSWAGMASTER
Christ, the poise damage on Midir's attacks goes crazy.
999 poise dmg on fire and lasers, he easily stagger Yhorm aswell because of that
No because the gale concidering it as the player, i have seen videos of a elden ring bosses fight, and one of them doing supzr hight poise damages because he is the player who doing these damages
Please don't say the Lord's name in vain.
He loves you so much He died the worst way,
on a scale of perception unimaginable.
A day for God is like a thousand years,
and a thousand years is like a day.
God is the inward, and outward infinity of infinities,
and He feels all feeling, sees all sight, hears all sound.
The crucifixion of Jesus might have taken a day,
but for God it was like a thousand years.
Imagine being crucified for a thousand years.
Jesus paid the wages of sin for all who will humble themselves,
all who will read the Bible, learn their sin, acknowledge their sin,
confess to their sin, ask for forgiveness, and turn from their sin daily.
Mankind is more sinful then it could have imagined,
but more loved by God then they could have hoped.
@@generaldurandal3568 Saying the Lord's name in vain refers to using his name to justify heinous acts, not swearing by him, calm down.
Poise breaking was a mistake. Trivializes fights.
Dark Souls 3 bosses seem to do far more stagger damage than Elden Ring bosses.
The Nameless King also had insane staggering power.
That's because they were designed with different mechanics in mind.
@botondkunos1774 it's crazy because you can get midir down for a critical hit but only if you hit his head hard as fuck like 6 times 😂
@@colinnixon7739midirs stance break only happens in 2nd phase if you've done enough damage, I've never seen midir be poise broken before that. And yes indeed only if you've hit the head enough times.
@@kickdoornbos1226and mostly when his HP is close to 1/8 or 1/9 of his full healthbar
@@colinnixon7739Midir's a DLC Boss. He's expected to be *that* hard.
Midir is the best dragon fight in the genre imo. Especially if you're melee and want that knight vs dragon experience, nothing else really comes close in the same way. Because Midir likes to literally throw hands, and likes to fight dirty. His attack routine feels personal, almost like he can't stand that you're winning. He's swinging these hands like "Why won't you DIE! " Like the audacity of this tiny thing trying to kill him, and he can't even hit them. You can just feel his desperation in the fight as it comes to a close. Love that fight so much.
Based opinion
Exactly! Out of the 5,000+ hours I spent on the souls series, Midir was the only dragon fight the felt TRULY powerful. Him, Slave Knight G, and PRE-patch Radahn were the only fights that genuinely gave me that “ OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHI-” feeling. I miss the old Radahn😢
That rampage combo and godzilla beam is goated
@@ofmasterOofI thought they reverted him back to pre nerf already?
Ok, true, but the camera angles suck on a different level
The ancient once said “Placidusax checks under his bed for Midir”
placidusax: ''mom, before i slepp, can you check inside the closet in case Midir is there?''
Bro,this was a heavily nerfed placidusaxx and still managed to win once
@@beast5290 there are two very different things: Game accurate, and lore accurate.
I'll put you an example:
Most of elden ring's bosses can beat the elden beast (in Game)
although accoring to the lore the elden beast not only is an outer god, but the enbodiment of the greater will. And still in game most bosses can kill him
So something that happens in the game does not make it lore accurate. If we were to be talking lore accurate then there is a high chance that the dragonlord would take this one. (Sadly since i am a huge ds3 fan)
Hope you understood :)
Placi ices him every time if he doesn't get gimmick poise break and they actually made it to where placi hit em. This guy had to nerf and handicap placi and he was still putting up Hella fight
Midir, the last elder dragon is the most powerful, devourer of the abyss, the one who blows the wind roars and the ground shakes.
and placidusax is the dragonlord the strongest among all living dragons and the capable of bending time and space and controling the lightning bolts of heaven
Yea but this dude Midir is weak to lightning like most Dark Souls dragons. I'm pretty surprised he didn't take much damage from it.
it's terrifying to think that he's LESS powerful than he used to be because his Scales were corrupted by the Abyss he consumed.
He was a descendant of Everlasting Dragons, who had scales which made them immortal. Those scales were ONLY able to be destroyed by Gwyn in his Prime, the same Gwyn who created the Sun and wielded the very concept of Light.
There's a purebred Everlasting Dragon in Dark Souls 1, and because of it's scales it's literally impossible to kill in the game.
Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.
Precisely. A nice homage to Shin Gozzila
I like how they are both eepy sleeby before the fight
Poise and staggering aside, it’s cool to see how much of Placidusax’s moveset (and by extension some of the other dragons in ER.) are inspired by Midir. The exploding laser comes to mind- which has come quite a way! If I’m not wrong this dates back all the way to Bloodborne’s Amygdala’s, then moving onto Midir, and now placidusax’s ruin!
The lazers are inspired by godzilla. That's it.
IT'S JUST RECYCLING ANIMATIONS SO THAT THEY FINISH DEVELOPING THE GAME FASTER
@@colinnixon7739it's literally the same animation as midir
i'm really curious to see how the fight would have gone if Placi had hyperarmor or a way higher poise
because he may get staggered every two hits he still manage to bring midir really low health every round, and even won once
Placidusax has way more health though, so giving him poise would be unfair.
@@Ann1ka2425 good. Placi deserve that
@@walaxometrobixinodrink1727 Midir is a much better boss. The bosses of Elden Ring were kinda boring.
@@Ann1ka2425 sorry cant hear you, still struggling in stormveil castle
@@walaxometrobixinodrink1727 Lol I’ve beaten Elden Ring plenty of times. The game shined with it’s gameplay, not it’s bosses. Look at my video where I beat Malenia.
Placidusax: I am your Lord. Kneel before me.
Midir: No.
6:30 bro literally said "keep your mouth shut"
Fighting Battle ❌
Sleeping Battle ✅
Midir: That’s some nice poise you have there, it would be a shame if someone were to fucking delete it.
Chad midir
Midir: yeah nice poise unfortunately it dosent exist anymore
In spite of the nerf Midir received with some of its attacks not fully work. He still one 4/5 of the fights.
Bubba placi missed everything cause the game wasn't working and the poise is wildy unfair cuz midor was written that way. No shot you get to sit here and say midir had it unfair😂
"How many times do i have teach you this lesson old man?!"
If Midir didn't win the majority, I would have asked for a redo!
I've only died to Placid once on my 10 vigor run out of the 4 times I fought him.
I've never beaten Midir without some few dozen deaths on any of my 7 play through.
Gives me well warranted PTSD and anxiety every time I reach the final few bonfires of the Ringed City when he shows up.
Midir is the only fromsoft boss that i had to give up on, and come back to months later. I couldn't even beat him while being overleveled and using summons. He just cooked us all
@@Kazbulida
As expected of the dragon at the end of the world.
Very old, very corrupted, very powerful.
@@kyosukeplays and also very big. I forgot how big he is until i saw him next to thr Fire Giant from Elden RING
This could've been so much better if placi wasn't getting staggered every second
Well, boþ are broken.
I mean... when ðey've got so much healþ, you better bet ðey do.@reyditrinus3562
Also the fact Midir could stagger all bosses in DS3 as well even Yhorm the giant who is immune to fire could stagger and dropped from Midirs flames
@reyditrinus3562the game is designed around poise and stance. Charged r2, ashes of war and jumps are insentivised to stagger
@@danielantony1882you did not just use the letter “thorn” non-ironically 😂.
This is a pure testament of how ridiculous midir is . ER bosses do higher damage than DS3 bosses in general and DS3 bosses do more poise damage . But here Midir was outdamaging ER's strongest of dragon who is a late game boss. Jesus!
Midir has much higher health and defense than most bosses though. His only weak spot is his head which is hard to hit because that means being in front of him the entire fight where he does all.his attacks 😂
There is a reason the Unkindled One fights him last.
Well Midir is like a DLC Boss. Not only that, but he's a finale secret boss. It's kinda expected for him to be stronger in that regard.
Even Placidusax, a main game boss, could've been alot stronger himself.
Only smaller ER bosses may get a shot at beating Midir, anything his size or larger will just get obliterated due to his enormous hitbox.
Rykard and fire giant might have a chance against him tho
@@manuellamanna8776I really doubt that, Midir has infinite poise damage, they won't be able to move
@@manuellamanna8776fire giant? I doubt, he will get stunlocked to death just like Yhorm, Midir does 999 poise dmg
@@manuellamanna8776 unlikely, Midir is Resistant to a lot of types of damage with Exceptions to Lightning and ironically Dark (Void) damage. I maxxed out the Wolf Knight Greatsword to fight him which has void damage and in all my battles never managed a stun.
@@erandigael2878 Turns out we now have a video of Midir fighting every ER bosses and Fire Giant came super close to killing him, because his rolls do absurd amounts of damage and multi-hit (one roll would do 2000-8000 damage to Midir).
Midir was like “let me teach you how to use that laser you stole from me, boy”
A cool fight nonetheless, plaxi with lots of health and midir with poise break, i was cheering for midir gonna have to admit, bc i think he is the ultimate dragon fight in all souls series and design and lore counted too, anyway, the first elden lord fought well too and stood to his name.
Midir is a fucking hero dragon. Love them!
I hope they make a prime placi version cuz having 5 heads is insane 😂
Chad here
I wonder what damage midirs laser does as dark damage doesn't exist in elden ring, maybe holy damage as that's just darks equivalent
If I had to guess they probably went with the safest formula and made dark do Physical like in DS1
The dark is more like fire or maybe magic attack. I think it is magic because it is not that strong like fire but still the damage is good
@@kgbauo309 The original creator of the video did confirm that the laser did holy damage, and if you watch Nameless Rings video also showcasing Midir vs er bosses the laser did very little damage to maliketh who has 80% holy resist.
@@magnuswannabe4374 ohh understand. I have to watch this video still. I didn't knew it was old video even😂
Yea I didn't see the fact the Laser was holy until I watched part 2
Now I’m imagining a duo fight against these two at the same time, and I’m scared
The recipe for transferring the boss from DS to Elden Ring:
1. Endless balance (Unnatural)
2. The ability to introduce an enemy into Stan in one hit.
Midir does not have poise and his fire does 999 poise damage
@@agentcd7806 he does
after many hits (and especially in the head) he falls making him vulnerable to critical attack and his fire does limited poise damage
it is just the modder abilities that are limited and he justify this by meaningless talking
everything of normal dragons in Elden ring is reskinned from Midir
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735
Midir's fire breath definitely does NOT deal little poise damage.
If you've seen other BvB, you would see that almost all of Midir's fire attacks can near insta-stagger (poise break) bosses like Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, and even Yhorm.
Though I do agree that Midir should probably have been poise broken at least once here.
Also Midir's attacks are definitely not taken from normal Elden Ring dragons.
(Face charge, laser breath, rush down with fire breath, etc. are unique to Midir)
And in the case of the midir critical hitbox only on the head and high resistance to all types of damage on the rest of the body... This is my favorite boss of all in the series
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735Midir's stagger is scripted, it only triggers once when he is at the last 1/4 of his healthbar
imagine bringing kalameet and the ancient dragon from darksouls 1&2 into this fight.
Sinh crying in background
Midir washing all of them 😂
midir is the true dragonlord from the souls. good job midir
Bro half of these comments are just ER players complaining that their daddy placi lost
Bunch of whiny kids
Placi has a lot more potential he is the fucking "dragonlord of fromsofware" but midir poise damage is incorrect for elden ring.
@@robertopazsoldan9641 found one of the complainers
They do and I love it
@@robertopazsoldan9641 Sorry, but Midir is THE big bad dragon, Placid is just a weak imitation.
5:50 Midir just pulled some Godzilla 2014 moves knocking Placidusax out of his swooping attack
yeah and right in the exact time pure legend!!
Midir pretty much folded sax neatly into a box and sent it back to Miyazaki and said, "Next time, don't send me a dragon that's made of paper mache"
Woah chaos you stepped your game the hell up beautiful modding skills My friend
A dragon from below the depths and the dragon that reigned from the clouds
I wanna see Black/Silver knights vs Crucible knights
Finalmente um confronto que eu esperei para ver !!! Os dois gigantes! Parabéns pelo vídeo ficou excelente amigo !!!
Placidusax: asleep, or maybe in stasis
Midir: f*ckin' dead
The way midir moves is terrifying
I just think it's funny that they made him hunch and crouch super low so you can hit him 😂😂😂
They just made placid fat and round so it looks less silly
And his aerial attack that does a good amount of dmg is missing too.
You can see the hate in his animations. The man does NOT like you at all.
This was amazing! Poor Grandpa, he only won once! I loved how smart was Midir sometimes, how in 5:20 stunned Placi before he used his nuke, 5:35 calculating where he woul fall to stun him and avoid the damage, or how in 8:45 he dodged Placi's attack and striked before Grandpa could use his fire against him. Chaos Silver Moon is underrated!
PTSD: I use these videos to take photos of Midir, if you could have his full body in good postion, I would thank you beyond the Greater Will's comprehension!
P.D. , I meant P.D. , not PTSD
well, takes about 2 wings until being stunned while the other requires an ungoodly amount of hits to the head for the same to occur I cannot help but feel as if Midir was less relying on smarts and more on his raw strenght
still impressive, but just saying
Yeah, ðey're boþ fucked in some way. @@umukzusgelos4834
Midir best tank str > dex unga bunga
@@umukzusgelos4834 Well, he's a powerful dragon. Fighting him is one of the more imposing bosses in the Souls franchise.
hope Midir vs all ER bosses is coming at one point
The only reason Placidusax was king was because Midir was fighting monsters worse than him, and could not be bothered to take the throne.
Imo, Placidusax is a little bitch of a boss compared to Midir,
Oh yeah but midir is like end series DLC boss. He's literally the last optional boss. Mad strong.
I can't express my gratitude from how ecstatic this makes me feel. From the moment I fought Placidusax I could see the contrasting design compared to Midir. FromSoft made the ultimate dragon boss fight (Midir) but Elden Ring needed a new one and despite my personal disappointment of not getting an updated Midir (which the closest enemy to Midir would be a crossbreed between a Rune bear and Modern Dragon (and who knows maybe they will expound on the bear eating dragon lore and make that boss in the DLC)) but Placidusax worked and I love him, he's like a Isshin Ashina; not the spring chicken he used to be but he has mastered elemental manipulation and gained unique abilities never seen before from the context of their respective worlds. You also could totally picture a Sword Saint isshin-Placisudsax that could rip everything to shreds with brute force and unparalleled precision, but the thing is they already have a dragon like that; Midir. I love any great boss fight, and Placidusax is no exception. But my favorite dragon fight ever is still Midir and this video highlights his awesome raw power and stalwart persistence. I read some comments from midir vs placidusax forums and the the general consensus was that they are both great bosses (I'd say slightly more favored Midir's design but that might just be the "the OG is better" mentality, but who cares, people's opinions are inconsistent and easily swayed anyway. Just like, what you like duh) but Placidusax would absolutely win. I couldn't wait until an actual, vs battle would be made, and besides the upset at the start Placi getting over-powered was exactly what I was expecting. Although he put up a way better fight despite that, which was unexpected. I thank you Chaos Silver Moon and any other parties for modding Midir into Elden Ring, your skills are incredible. I am blessed to live in a time where a Godzilla inspired video game dragon got to fight a Ghidorah inspired video game multi-headed dragon.
Man, Midir is such a chad, he mops the floor with placidusax face, his only advantages are teleportation and that he has more lasers, other than that midir just stunlocks him
I love Elden ring so much. It’s incredible and the characters and story are insane. But there’s something special about dark souls which will always be with me. It brings so much nostalgia and memories to me. Both with enjoying the game, and times in my life as I played the game too.
And this is without Midir’s humanity attack. Which would probably deal some cheap damage (but I mean. It’s Midir. Cheap damage for him is still quite a lot)
I think one of the problems about thes battles for what I see, the ER bosses were made with much less poise than the DS3 ones, probably because they wanted us to be able to break it more easily as a mechanic than in the DS3 when few bosses really gives us some opening to do critical hits
And late game Elden Ring bosses have far more health points because they are balanced around a much longer game. Placidusax has 11,000 more health than Midir, it's fair. Either way, Midir poise breaks everything in DS3 as well. His attacks were designed to have high poise damage, so it is irrelevant in this specific fight.
midir is too strong.
And he didn't even use his ultimate laser spam
@@jonesgurjones because this port is hugely flawed
in the normal game there's no way he can deal this damage
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 he actually can, he just misses because his enemies are small but against bosses that are big, he whops damages that can produce five digits like with yhorm. Too bad po88 deleted his videos.
Not, poise strong
@@tc-channelhobby4051pretty sure he renamed his channel
Mi novia:¿Por qué no me contesta?
Yo: Midir vs Placidusax 😈
Wasn't expecting Midir's theme to be added. Nice!
Placidusax forgot to level up his poise.
All Dragons against Milena +Knight dlc Dark Souls 3
Malenia is hard, sure, but MIDIR WAS ON THAT DEMON SHIT
I was thinking about midir and the whole boss fight from the original Dark Souls game and started thinking, "Aren't we fighting a weaker state of midir?", and I thought this mainly because we beat him once on the bridge and sent him falling down into a very deep, so when we find him, he seems to be sleeping or just injured from the first battle and the fall all together, so this gave me the idea we are fighting the weak version of midir. His second phase could be his true strength, but I don't know.
I am most likely incorrect, but it's a cool thought. Well, more of a spooky thought now knowing we won when midir was weak... imagine if we had to fight a full strength midir...
it is so badass when they wake up and epic roar one at another before fighting
Placidusax: You can deafeat me! i'm lord or dragon.
Midir: I WILL SHOW YOU! HOW IS lazy dragon is.
For those of you thinking placidusax lore wise should be stronger. I’d think again. Darkeater midir not only survived all of the wrath of mankind and monstrosities of the chaos. They also survived, and manipulated the abyss, only manus himself truly did this other than midir. Midir is also an arch dragon, and the only real one we ever see alive in any of the games. The arch dragons were the most powerful beings imaginable really. It took thousands of men and the wrath and guidance of what is practically god. Gwyn in his prime.
Would love to see bayle vs midir and then a ffa with all 3 that'd be dope
Midir always was the better boss in my opinion. I like Placidusax, he's a cool boss but Midir is just badass. Placidusax's laser attack is basically just stolen from Midir and then changed a bit, and then overtuned the damage of it so that it basically one shots a max level character in normal NG lol
They are incomparably different bosses, Placidusax is a dragon boss only in name, he is a turn based spectacle boss and he does that perfectly. Midir is a surprisingly well executed classic dragon boss only held back by usual big boss problems and by how basic his moves are. If Kalameet had his AI improved along with a bit of polish on his hitboxes he would be far better than Midir.
@@botondkunos1774Kalameet definitely was a product of his time. He's easily the most powerful dragon you fight in the Dark Souls trilogy, but DS1 didn't have the technology to pull off something spectacular.
@@jarlsterra that's understandable with the original release, but not with the remaster.
@@botondkunos1774 You confuse a remaster with a remake. A remaster updates visuals, everything else remains the same.
@@jarlsterra bad hitboxes and janky A.I. pathing shouldn't remain the same even in a remaster.
placi getting staggered every 2 secs IS MAKING THIS TOO HARD TO WATCH
Elden ring is easier because of this. Almost all the bosses can be brought down with the right builds.
1:12
Pacidusax: keeping calm and composed while summoning lighting
Midir: going absolutely ape-shit
An average dark souls boss' respiratory exhale is enough bring an entire arsenal of bosses of another game, on their knees, begging for mercy.
And the average Castlevania boss is enough to send Dark Souls bosses running like bitches to daddy Miyazaki
Mider was raised by gods also
Midir 90% of the time attacking the air.
Placidousax taking lil naps mid fight.
"Ah yes, so epic"
Tbf if midir hit him with his combo every time this would be a short ass fight😂
@@colinnixon7739yep, Placi is p much underleveled against Midir
CAN WE PLEASE GET MIDIR VS BAYLE NOW
Finally, a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary!
Truly put into perspective how poise works between the soulsborne and ER, where er is closer to sekiro's posture bar and the rest of soulsborne is closer to an enemy flinching giving you 1 more hit
It’s gonna be crazy when you can get AC6 bosses to fight other Fromsoft bosses
The fact Midir lazer is Holy damage means its not at its full power in DS3 very little amount had any dark resistance so the Eldenring bosses who highly resist Holy damage (except DLC bosses) taking that much damage is insane
Midir: i will polvorize you dragon king!
Midir will forever be my favorite dragon. Lichdragon fortissax is number 2. And in third place is placidusax.
Dayum but midir vs bayle would go so hard considering both op dragons from the dlcs
The only thing that would make placi beat midir, is if they had a Prime Placi with all 5 heads - still imo Midir is the topppp dragon in Souls
I really liked that one video where it was Midir against all of ER main bosses. And he actually won against everyone except Maliketh and Malenia.
There was also a Slave Knight Gael vid and he won against everyone except Godskin Duo, Rykard (Had literally 1 HP remaining), "Maliketh" (Gael died immediately after killing Maliketh) and Malenia.
Malenia is just built that different
Malenia and Maliketh are pretty much impossible for any other NPC to beat due to the mechanics of their attacks. Maliketh deals gigantic percentile damage which is balanced around the fact that the player can heal themself, an NPC cannot. Malenias water fowl dance heals her, which is balanced around a player being able to intelligently dodge. NPCs cannot do that.
@@jarlsterra exactly this. If the Bosses would be programmed to dodge attacks then I think they would slam everyone
@@gmayzes7268There's this one UA-camr that actually uses mods to take control of NPCs, and many of the bosses have what it takes to beat Maliketh and Malenia when an actual person is directing their movements and not the AI that is based around fighting a player.
Midir is like a seasoned athlete still in his prime compared to poor old Placidusax.... holy poise damage, Midir dominated this fight!
I mean, same for Placidusax. Both aren't even in their prime. Since Midir is like a DLC boss, it makes sense why he's scaled so high compared to Placidusax.
@@jatman9556Read the description, first three rounds the bosses are scaled to their original locations, second three they are scaled equally. Midir still wins 5/6, but you'll notice he's STRONGER in the second three rounds.
Elden ring is much longer than ds3, the damage scales much higher.
Also, lore wise, neither are in their prime, because midir basically has dark cancer and also is crippled just before his battle in ds3.
Midir is the best dragon boss fight in the souls genre dont @me
It’s like the Dragon King(Midir) vs the Dragon God(Placidusax)
They’re both the strongest dragon in their respective games, but midir is weak to lightning damage and placi deals lightning damage
Midir's body has like 60% resistance to lightning, he isn't that weak to lightning.
only Midir's head can take any meaningful damage
@@snsbsbsbdnsjdvsbsjzjv7870 midir resists every other elemental damage type more than lightning. I meant weak relative to other damage types
@@samueleborn9909
I can see what you mean.
my point is placidusax doesn't have that much of advantage against midir
And he still won lol
@@123NERDZbecause this guy hates placi lol watch his astel vs dragon lord vid
i supported midir because he traumatised me still one of the hardest first time bosses to me and it shows that in this fight he won the 2nd 3rd 4th round and he bodied placi in 5th and 6th with quick finishes he only lost round 1 due to luck 😂
2:10 This was funny. I could almost hear Midir's thoughts: "WHERE DID THE FUCKER GO?!? DRAGONLORD MY ASS! STUPID CHEATER, WHAT ARE YOU A WHIMPY VAMPIRE LORD, HUH? He transformed into a cloud to escape my claws, GET OVER HERE YOU SCUM!!"
Relax 😂
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@@colinnixon7739 Vengeance
This is really cool! I don’t see the complaints
The complaints are ER kids being mad that placi lost lol. Both are great!!
It’s hard to really scale the dark souls bosses with Elden ring bosses because the Elden ring bosses were designed to be staggered while dark souls bosses really don’t give a fuck about what you hit them with they aren’t going down 😭
Midir's laser one hit staggers Yhorm. This is the one boss you can't complain about poise damage with. Midir was intended to deal insane poise damage.
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I know it’s impossible but this just makes me want to see Midir Vs Safi’jiiva. Battle of the giant laser shooting dragons
Placidusax : I'm the first elden lord truly and hard stone skin and king of all dragons
Midir : oh so you eat abyss for lunch? Cuz thay are be taste funky
Crazy comeback from placidusax, my god
I’ve never been so angry in my whole life bruh midir jus standing there most of the time
now i have seen, midir have crystals on his body and they also are similar to Liurnia Crystals
Typical. Despite being outplayed with basic attacks, all it took for placidusax to win was one L2.
Midir buddy, how did you fuck up so bad in the first round with that huge lead?
Er damage, that's how. He worked that ds poise damage thought.
That double laser is cheap. Lol
Bro never got defeated after that.
I never knew how huge Midir actually is
If fromsoftware ever change engine, we'll miss mod like this
Midir say to placidusax i am the true dragon lord
Midir real built different
Midir is so much cooler than Placidusax, it's kind of funny, and if we went off of lore, it's safe to say Midir would flatten every dragon in Elden ring both in present and in their respective primes, prime Placidusax or Bayle might have a chance against present Midir, but even that's a little generous. Midir thought the abyss and won for thousands of years, most other characters can't even resist it for a few decades. He's also a member of a race that took five gods working together to bring down.
I would expect no less from daddy midir
Why so far every bosses I’ve seen imported to ER looks 10 billion times better than from the original game?!?
Light and artstyle make a huge difference
@@purehollow but they look more appealing to look at overall visually in ER and that’s what I don’t understand
Yo, Bayle the Dread vs Midir. Can u make it happen?
Midir: a
Placidusax: 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
Literally Ghidora (Placidusax) vs Godzilla (Midir)
you need to fix the hitbox for Midir, because some of Placi's lightning slashes on the ground looks like he's hitting nothing but air
That's because the collision system has changed. Midir's collision box is very large. So it's hard for Dragonlord to get close to him.
Godzilla vs King Ghidorah
Jesus Christ midirs laser damage is through the roof