National name for tribes of Greece in the Bronze Age = Achaeans National name for tribes of Greece as per Italic tribes = Greeks National name for tribes of Greece as per Asiatic nations = Ionians National name for tribes of Greece as per Greeks themselves = Hellenes National name for Greeks of the Eastern Roman Empire = Romans Long history, several terms for the one and the same people.
@@Judge_Magister The Dorians were one of the greek tribes , along with Aeolians, Achaeans, and Ionians. These tribes all had highly similar culture and religion but also distinct national identity and dialect. As it is explained in the video the national identity in these old times was much more... narrow, geografically. All tribes, however viewd themselves as having the same ethnicity and referred to themselves as Hellenes.
@@sarantis1995 "National identity" here I guess is "state identity" or "tribal identity". The word "nation" is used very vaguely today but I would prefer to use it as the latin/french/english translation of the Greek word "ethnos".
@@Judge_Magister You mean who were the Dorians? They were Greek tribes which originated from Western Macedonia and Eastern Epirus, i.e. they were the mountainous tribes residing in the Pindus mountain range in north Greece. We already find the term "Dorian" in Linear B tablets referring to what we presume were "servants" or "slaves" so it is safe to presume that these mountainous tribes were trickling to the southern richer and more advanced states as labour force, i.e. as "slaves"/"servants" or, very plausibly as mercenaries. We know for example that Achilles' Myrmidones were in fact Dorians, it is explicitly mentioned in the Iliad since Homer calls them "Hellenes" back at a time the term "Hellenes" was not a national term for all Greek tribes but rather a tribal name of Dorians. So Dorians were trickling down from Macedonia into Thessaly - that is presumably where they got the name "Hellenes", residing in a region called Hellas, mentioned by Homer - they either named it themselves or adopted the name after it being a local pre-existing one. To be noted Homer describes these "Hellenes" (i.e. Dorians) as "Achaeans" in the ethnic/national term thus telling us that they were a different tribal set but always withing the ethnic group of the rest of Achaeans, i.e. the rest of Greeks (as said, back then the national term for all Greek tribes was "'Achaeans"). In Thessaly, perhaps the oldest Dorian invasion was that of the Magnetes who took over Magnesia. Them they retained their Dorian dialect. The rest of Dorians who ruled over Thessaly adopted rather the pre-existing Aeolian dialect. A sub-group of Dorians from south Thessaly, from the old kingdom of Achilles which contained the region of Hellas, moved southwards taking over Boetia and its main cities, Orchomenos and Thebes (descendants of these spoke a mixed Aeolian-Dorian dialect, called Boetian). And then moved further south. After failing to capture Attica which was well defended by the local Achaeans (ancestors of the later Ionians living there, known as Attics/Athenians), they jumped over into Peloponesus and after a succession of wars they finally took over Argos and then a generation later moved into Sparta. Once done that, a part of their aristocracy moved back to their original birthplace, in Macedonia which back then was fragmented into tiny kingdoms and set a kingdom which evolved into the later known kingdom of Macedonia. The kingdom of Macedonia as we know it expanded then further to the east subjugating the Thraecian tribes one by one - but beware when we mean "Thraecian" here we again speak of Greek tribes as the term "'Thraecian" was a regional one, not an ethnic one. It is very unfortunate that today this is fantacized as some kind of "ethnic" term when in reality the 100% of these "Thraecian" tribes living south of the Rhodope mountain range spoke Greek, had Greek culture and had the same Gods. Not to be mixed with northern Thraecians, i.e. tribes residing north of Rhodope mountain range (in modern day Bulgaria) whose ethnic identity is uknown to this day (though even them left the 100% of their written record in Greek and Greek only, for whatever reason - not of this topic of course). Dorians also organised the kingdom of Epirus. The Aetolians and Akarnanians in western Greece were also Dorians but it is not sure whether they were invaders there or if they had been locals such as in the case of Epirus and Macedonia. What is interesting in this is that if we study Achaeans we will soon find that they were not, themselves too, locals of Peloponesus. In Peloponesus there was another set of Greek tribes, called Arcadians, who were found in the mountainous center of this islandic-like piece of Greek land. So all chances are that Achaeans too could had been a product of an earlier invasion into Peloponesus... we could even presume that Achaeans themselves were an earlier "Dorian-like" invaasion from central or northern Greece that may had happened many centuries before the Trojan War, somewhere in the early (3000 BC) or at latest middle-Bronze Age (around 2000 BC). What you need to keep out of all this is that we always talk of local Greek tribes moving around. We have no evidence of any "newcomers". This is the reason why all these tribes spoke dialects of theirs but always within the Greek language, always having the same general culture in spite of their regional differences. I am stating this because in the past 2-3 centuries many wanted to fantacize about "out of Greece" invaders coming in and wrecking the place which was something that now we know for sure did not happen. All the Bronze Age collapse and the coming of the Dark Ages actually was a self-inflicted misery caused by the Greek tribes themselves. If you think of it, this is in fact an even darker scenario! And a good lesson to everybody of how civilisation may collapse, and so easily.
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Nice! You explained quite correctly the mistake of calling all Hellenes Greeks! Back then there was not the concept of countries. There were just nations. The Hellenic nation consisted of many Hellenic tribes: Thracians, Makedonians, Thessalians, Epirus, Minoans, Achaeans… etc etc One of these was the Γραικοί/grekoi Grekoi colonised the southern part of Italy and the Etruscans thought that all Hellenes were Grekoi… That’s why the Romans named us Graeci! And that’s why even today, all the southern part of Italy is known as Magna Grecia/greater Hellas. Grekoi means nothing but Hellas has a very interesting meaning! First, in Hellenic it’s Ελλάς / Ellás. The stress is on the second syllable. El + las *El* is a proto-Hellenic term meaning Sun Ελ - Ελιος or Ήλιος = El -Elios or Ilios > Helios: Sun in English *Las* is a proto-Hellenic term meaning literally rock but metaphorically soil/land. From las came the term land. Eng-land > the land of Aglos Deutsch-land the land of Deutsch… So, Hellas means the land of Sun/light Hellenes means the sons of Sun Hellenic means the language of light! Hellenes never referred to ourselves as Grekoi… Calling all Hellenes Greeks it’s like me calling all Americans Californians… It’s like calling the island of Britain Londonia and every British person Londoner…
It is not a mistake. Nations often have several names. Italic tribes including Romans met the Graikoii tribe thus called us "Graechi". Hellenes were originall a Dorian tribe of South Thessaly and by conquering Peloponesus they sptead their tribal name as a national name for all tribes. In the East Ionians were the predominant tribe thus Asiatic people including the Persians called us Yunani/Yauna. There is no error in this. Remember that back in the Bronze Age the most predominant tribe were the Achaeans and that was also our national name it seems. Later on in the Middle Ages, having adopted the Roman citizenship, the term "Roman" had become a national name for Greeks. So depending on era, you have Achaeans, Hellenes, Greeks, Ionians and Romans all being national names of Greeks. No error. Just historical circumstances.
@@dinos9607 you are wrong! Hellenes is an umbrella that contain all the others! Hellenes were divided in four main races: Dorians Aeolians Achaeans Ionians Each of the Hellenic nations were belonging in one of these races: *Dorians* = Peloponnesians, Makedonians…etc *Aoelians* = Thessalians…etc *Achaeans* = Mycenaeans…etc *Ionians* all the Hellenes of Minor Asia and Thrace… Hellenes | _______________________________ | | | | Dorians Aeolians Ionians Achaeans | | | | Sparta Thessaly Thrace Mycenae Makedonia Minor Asia … During the Roman era every citizen of the empire could be called as ‘’Roman’’ During the Byzantine era, the Hellenes were self called Ρωμιοί/Romií not Ρωμαίοι/Romans. Romiòs meant Hellene and Orthodox Christian in contrast to the term Roman which later was associated with Italy and Catholicism. It was a misunderstanding by the Etruscans/Italians that all Hellenes we were Grekoi because they met only the Frekoi that colonised their lands. On the other hand, the Middle Eastern tribes call all Hellenes Yunans> Ionians which is also wrong because not all Hellenes are Ionians! Herodotus, Homer, Plato, Thucydides… all of our ancestors were calling themselves Hellenes even though some were Grekoi, some Ionians, some Achaeans… etc We are all Hellenes!
@@Kolious_Thrace What I am saying is that just like tribal "Greeks" gave the national name among Italic (and by extension to Europeans) tribes, just like the tribal "Ionians" gave the national name among Lydians (and by extension to most Asians), the tribal "Hellenes" who were Dorian tribes from South Thessaly (and part of Achille's army at Troy - Homer mentions that explicitly), gave the national name among us. It is the same procedure really. The only difference is that the one process occurred in Italy, the other in Minor Asia and the third in mainland Greece. But essentially there is no difference in the process. We call Iranians as "Persians" who were only one of the Iranian tribes. Earlier in archaic times we were calling them as " Medes" again from another Iranian tribe. Nations do tend to have mutiple names. We call the French as Galloi. Magyars are called Hungarians and Suomi Finnish. So you see, it is not even any Greek particularity here. Asking people to call us Hellenes is of no importance at all when all three names are essentially Greek. Greek is fine, Yunan is fine and ours, Hellenes, is also fine. I am fine with Roman too - and no there is no difference between " Romaios" and "Romios", the same thing just different accent. When we speak of Romans of the Eastern Roman Empire, particularly after the loss of Syria and Egypt, we mean us Greeks and that is how it was. None was calling as "Romans" the Bulgarians or the Serbians or the Armenians even if they far too often were part of the Empire.
@@palisadenhonko4962 hello my friend, unfortunately for you you are wrong. You can find on the internet a research which was conducted in Harvard and it says that modern greeks are direct descendants of the ancient ones. You need to educate yourself, and not say foolish things without giving your sources, you make yourself look fool.
We know almost nothing about what transpired during the period in Greek history that followed the collapse of the Mycenaean civilization and into the Archaic Age. The most amazing thing about this mystery is the fact that after a long blank period there all of a sudden appeared a new alphabet, an unbelievable perfect language and so much wisdom and culture. I believe we are missing a tremendous important part of the puzzle, which will require further archeological research until we can get the full picture.
It is true that that period is to a great extent obscured in darkness, as are many, many periods of ancient history. But the greek alphabet was not new; as mentioned in the video, it was greatly influenced by the phoenecian alphabet. You can check more about it here: ua-cam.com/video/J0FdFQ4v2nU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HistoryWithHilbert
Greek history has been stolen what you just mentioned was the evolution of the Greek language which started from the pyramids. The pyramids were all built by the Greeks. When the new alphabet came out all our prior history was stolen. The language that the albanians claim for their own is the way the Greeks communicated before the alphabet.
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed the pyramids are far older than the greeks or egyptians. They were built by an older civilization that got wiped out by the floods. Then the egyptians tried to re create them hence the smaller pyramids that came after.
Greek history is way older than what we are told. Just like the alphabet took many evolutionary steps. Those civilizations you mentioned are prior Greek civilizations. Just like the Mesopotamians just like the Minoans the list goes on. Just because the language doesn't look the same anymore doesn't mean that the people are not the same. Look up ancient Greek computer. No way can such a device be created without thousands and thousands of years of ingenuity. There is no way so much knowledge was created in such a short amount of time that we are told. Plato's writings say that Atlantis was destroyed 11,000 years before he wrote his notes. All of the Middle East is littered with Greek ground murals. They just found Hercules statue in turkey and they found a gigantic stadium. There is no other people on this planet that could have had the knowledge to build anything.
My theory is that a new kind of sophisticated modern people appeared as a result of human evolution. And these peoples genes spread all Greek territory by marrying. Anthropologiests and genetic engineers could solve this mystery. Could be an alien intervention to our genetics also
when the library of Alexandria was destroyed, the knowledge about Greek real history was also lost, the Greek alphabet is the most perfect of all languages and this is because it creates new words all the time
"FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Hellenic Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes.” The Greeks and their Heritage, A.J Toynbee, 1st Korais Professor of Greek Studies
@@hattorihaso2579 "As heirs to the Greeks and Romans of old, the Byzantines thought of themselves as Rhomaioi, or Romans, though THEY KNEW FULL WELL that they were ETHNICALLY GREEKS." (see also: Savvides & Hendricks 2001).Niehoff 2012, Margalit Finkelberg, "Canonising and Decanonising Homer: Reception of the Homeric Poems in Antiquity and Modernity", p. 20 or Pontificium Institutum Orientalium Studiorum 2003, p. 482: "After the Empire lost non-Greek speaking territories IN THE 7th AND 8th CENTURIES, "Greek" (Ἕλλην), when not used to signify "pagan", became synonymous with "Roman" (Ῥωμαῖος) and "Christian" (Χριστιανός) to mean a Christian Greek citizen of the [Eastern] Roman Empire." "Roman, GREEK (if not used in its sense of 'pagan') and Christian became SYNONYMOUS terms, counter-posed to 'foreigner', 'barbarian', 'infidel'. The citizens of the Empire, now predominantly of GREEK ethnicity and language, were often called simply ό χριστώνυμος λαός 'the people who bear Christ's name'." Harrison, Thomas (2002). Greeks and Barbarians. New York: Routledge., p. 268
@@hattorihaso2579 "The Byzantine empire was clearly, despite its multinational dimension, a Greek empire while its neighbours considered it so, and whose unity was based on the power of authority, in the dominance of Orthodoxy and the use of Greek as the official language." Sylvain Gouguenheim, "La gloire des Grecs", 2017, pp.73 "The discussion of dates also highlights the differences in the ethnic and cultural mix between the two halves of the Roman world and the distinctness of the medieval state from its earlier Roman heritage. The Byzantines called themselves 'Romans', their emperor was basileon ton Rhomaion or 'Emperor of the Romans' and their capital was 'New Rome'. However, the most common language was Greek, and it is fair to say that for the vast majority of its history, the Byzantine Empire WAS MUCH MORE GREEK THAN ROMAN in cultural terms." Byzantine Empire: Definition by Mark Cartwright
@@vangelisskia214 eeeihm yeah no they where romans a multi ethnic empire with lots of ethnixities and greek being the lingua franca get the fuck over urself the byzantines never existed just romans
@@hattorihaso2579 Roman identity was solely a political identity until the empire was geographically reduced to mostly Greek speaking areas at around the 7th century A.D. Only after the loss of Syria and North Africa by the Muslims, the term "ROMAIOS" gradually took an ethno-linguistic sense referring ONLY to the GREEK SPEAKING Chalcedonian Christians (who now were the majority population of the empire), utterly becoming a SYNONYM of the terms "GREEK" (which was always being used as a semantic equivalent of "Hellene") and "HELLENE" itself which gradually also revived with it's original ethno-cultural connotation (since paganism was no longer a threat) and came to refer to the same peoples till this very day.
WTF is Hellenic? That word don't make sense in the Greek language. Hell is not part of our tittle. Ελλάδα. Where do you see the H. The H is an E in Greek the same E used in the American language so where do they find Hell? Greeks are the only people of God not Hell.
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed "Η" is the δασεία that doesn't exist anymore, either as a letter nor as a sound in modern Greek spelling, but has survived in romance languages, that is the modern languages that evolved from Vulgar Latin between the third and eighth centuries. Nothing to do with God or Hell, then! Are you sure you can speak Greek?
E is the sound all Europe knows. Η has nothing to do with ΕEEΕλλάδα Where do you find H to sound like E. Why is the Greek supposed to listen to non-Greeks to teach us about Greek? Are you ok?
Ancient Greece, the cradle of western civilization. One of the greatest civilizations in history. The pioneers of democracy and modern science came out from there. Greek philosophers' legacies and what they did, are still felt today and will be continued forever. Hence, Greek mythology has always been a huge inspiration source for books, movies, and games.
I think ancient Rome is the cradle of Western Civilization more so than ancient Greece. The Romans were the ones that actually introduced complex civilization to western Europe, all of European culture and history can be traced back to the Romans, not the Greeks.
Just a little addition. The Latin alphabet was a western variant of the Greek alphabet, used in the first Greek colonies of southern Italy, Pithecusa and Kyme (nowadays the towns of Procida and Cuma). I'm writing from Cuma now.
latins were first cousins with greeks ,their roots coming straight from troy and aineias .War of troy was a civil war...as always In greece...Moreover there were no translators between troyans and achaians 10 years of war just like sparta and athens... and they were just swearing each other in greek!
@@christostentes3199 unbelievable! You quoted Aeneas! In his book Eneide written by Vergil in the chapter 6, there is the lake of Avernus. I live very close to the lake. Unbelievable that Aeneas is known outside of italy!
Latin script evolved from Etruscan, Etruscan evolved from Greek, Greek evolved from Phoenician, Phoenician evolved from Proto-Sinaitic, and Proto-Sinaitic evolved from ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs.
Pelasgians, Minyans-Minoans, Mycenaeans are all same in DNA as Greeks. The only differences are the names. Also Greek alphabet had been made from Phoenician GREEKS settlers and not Semitic Phoenicians. There there were Minoans known as Peleset (Pelasgians), then became Philistaioi and finally Palaistinioi. They had come from Crete after the explosion of the Thera volcano (~1650bc). That's why there is a dispute about whether or not the alphabet is Greek or just Phoenician etc.
I wish I could go back and see these civilizations Ancient Greece and Rome and visit cities like Babylon and Constantinople. That would be fucking sick.
@@tudormardare66 Minoans were too. The only exception is that they were using linear A too. Linear A hasn't been yet decrypted, but it will in the near future. Also the language of Greeks has been changing in the millennials starting from the Pelasgians as engraved symbols, like the Egyptian ones. After many natural destructions and the known floods of the Greek mythology, Linear A comes as a fragmentation of Pelasgian language. Then came Linear B more simplistic than linear A but still with symbols and finally the "Kadmeia" or "Phoeniciia" letters that as the Greek mythology says Kadmos brought them from Greek Phoenicia or Philistaia. Others say that they've been called Phoenician, because of the paint that were painted, the "Phoinos" or "Porphyros" or red. Finally others say that : φοινίκεια, διὰ τούτων φοινήσσεται ὁ νοῦς, ἤγουν λαμπρύνεται. [( They've been called phoeniceia, because from them the brain lights up)(from thoughts)].
Personally I don't think the question has ever been answered as to and how and why the Ancient Greeks became such an enlightened people . I mean hec man look .....the birth place of democracy , huge advancements in geometry , mathematics , medicine, the sciences , architecture , philosophy and even our very forms of government and judicial systems today were all birthed in that extraordinary country by its people . No wonder Greece is called the cradle of Western Civilization . NO society ever reached the heights that were attained by Ancient Greece. An incredible people . The world we live in today is a Hellenised world . The Greeks of today should remember who they were , and who they still are , .......if they can find it within themselves .
🤺☦🇷🇺Democracy? Who cares... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy What you have said is extremely interesting, but I must confess I have no knowledge of it. I began reading all the comments that have been made on this video, some of them go back over a year ago. Seems this video had sparked a great deal of debate on the Ancient Greeks, who they were and where they came from. I don't know how accurate it all is, as we are going back in time a good deal. One commentator here even stated the Egyptian pyramids were built by one of subcultures within the multiple Greek tribes or groups. It's a bit too deep for me but thank you for your comment. All I know is that as time progressed all these different tribes or groups must have come together to call themselves HELLENES, WITH ONE LANGUAGE ONE RELIGION ONE CULTURE. They went on to achieve remarkable things. Thank you again for what you contributed to the discussion.
@@andrewmiller4885 Thanks. Well, we who follow the table of nations, and research it with ancient sources, archeology and dna, know 100% who the Greeks are, so you can count on my data. Don't listen to the freaks who try to hijack others peoples cultures, like the American freaks and that western m0r0n who said Greeks built the pyramids - that something that should be mocked and laughed at. Egyptians built the pyramids! People shouldn't be sticking their nose in other peoples cultures. No wonder that m0r0n thinks minoans were Greeks lol
PS You made a little mistake, though: Philip II was stabbed by one of his seven bodyguards, Pausanias son of Orestes, during the incestuous wedding of his daughter Cleopatra. It happens that I just started reading a book about Antipater, one of his clever generals who became really influential during the reign of Alexander, and this is why I know the whereabouts of the Macedon's death. It's a really petty detail, but it spoils a little the great quality of all your report, otherwise flawless.
What I find interesting is that, during the Mahabaratham & Ramayanam period; The scriptures of the epic was completed between 5th BCE and 4th CE ( time of decline from archaic age into fall to rome ) ; The events itself takes place around 31st BCE up tp 1100 BCE ( time of the minoans , Myceaeans ), Alot of stories and morals are shared, but something I found interesting was : In the epics, there is a constant message to 'humanity' that we are going into the 'kali' age ( a time of decline in moral values and time where 'sins' flourish i.e: greed, lust, intoxication etc. The same thing in the history of greece at the exact same time! (This is in India btw) mind = blown
hi Capavating History thank you I injoyed this video like always you make it fun and interesting and thank you for it being captioned so I could understand what you we're saying and injoy the video have a goodnight and a very good Friday and coming weekend :-)
@@philipdriscoll5733 hi Philip Driscoll and good morning and thank you for you're reply and thank you for you're kind words :-) well I'm glad you injoyed my comment let's see injoy as you are injoying something as you we're in the middle of it injoyed as you did injoy something that you just finished or referred either to something as you are in the middle of it or you had finished ah then again what the He'll do I know lol :-D ha ha just kidding you have very good Friday and coming weekend Philip Driscoll :-)
Reading the comments one has to be very careful not to take them seriously because each person who comments may have some knowledge of true historic facts that they learnt from somewhere but most of what is written is mixed, distorted, made up and inaccurate or just don't make any sense. People should be careful and only comment to say if they liked the video or not and not try educating others when they do not have the qualifications to do so.
Agni ... :: You make some great observations ; but people have knowledge and want to share on UA-cam. Some of these videos have mistakes and have been corrected by commentators. There are so many issues surrounding Ancient History, I don't think we will ever know the fully-complete History and especially FACTS ! One thing is certain :: when they tell us that a particular "God" impregnated a particular mortal and began a magnificent lineage ... well ... it's time to start asking serious questions about that "lineage" !
The fourth age was the age of heros! This is my the fifth age "the iron age"! The Greeks learned mathematics from the people that came from planet Serios! Also their DNA is the same. Their history goes back more than 50.000 years. From the many destractions earthquakes, floads etc history is lost! They are the first humans on this planet. Prometheus is the titan that gave them the knowledge! Their history is endless and fantastic! This documentary is very nice! Thank you! 😉 Greetings from a Greek Spartan named Georgios!
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, we do know... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
"The Homeric poems were first written down in more or less their present form in the seventh century B.C. Since then GREEK HAS ENJOYED A CONTINUOUS TRADITION DOWN TO THE PRESENT DAY. Change there has certainly been. But there has been no break like that between Latin and Romance languages. Ancient Greek is not a foreign language to the Greek of today as Anglo-Saxon is to the modern Englishman. The only other language which enjoys comparable CONTINUITY OF TRADITION is Chinese." Browning 1983, p. vii: Medieval and Modern Greek Robert Browning Cambridge University Press, Aug 18, 1983
Greece began as inland ports for Atlantis, Crete, as early as 2350 BC. They were the royal house of Egypt that left Egypt following 2447 BC Exodus. The National Geographic places the volcanic eruption in the south Agean Sea that destroyed the north side of Atlantis withany of the islands sinking.
🤺☦🇷🇺You Indians are a mix of the Semitic Sheba, the Hamitic Sumerians, and the Japhetic Madai... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
How is it possible ,since we know Deukalions flood is dated at approximately 9500 B.C. (meaning that before this event Greek civilisation was already present) , you say that Greeks are only 2000 years old ? And who were the great Minyans builders (Greeks of Thessaly back in the 3rd millenia)? Do your homework guys ;)
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ Zeus derives fom the Greek word "Ζευξις" - Zefksis as pronounced in the latin alphabet , which means "combining in pairs" and is a characteristic of the diety of "Διας" - Deus (later "Dio" ;) ) , thus explaining that Zeus - Deus is the combiner of ..... etc etc. What does it mean in Sanskrit ?? Sorry . nothing personal its just nessecary to dive deeper into the ancient texts and languages and not how convienient everybodies opininion is . My regards !
🤺☦🇷🇺Romans were also Greeks... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
@@levesd3722 yeah exactly actually they might be related to them. I don't think they are from Caucasus cause Armenia and Georgia are ancient AF and Albania has insignificant culture
myceneaneans and minoans were populations of the aegean space. we do not know how the minoas called themselves because we have no records or texts about these but we know for sure how the myceneaneas called themselves. also the use of the name hellas is already from the myceneanean era but its a name given in some cities. the myceneaneas had primarly an organization close to the origins of some ancestors and like a tribal organization as the classical greeks had also a tribal organisation later. there is not any clear evidence that the bronze age populations came from china or mars but there are lot of references in the ancient texts that do not talk about massive and total colonization of people. so anyone can do any ypothesis want but they cannot support it scientifically.
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, we do know... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
Thank you. I believe Herodoto or Thucydides stated the Egyptians gave the Greeks the name Hellenes from Hellen and if you read the Ancient Greek texts, Thucydides mentions in the beginning chapters of the Hellenes chapters that its founded by Menes or Minos. The only Minos that there was, to my understanding was King Min of Egypt. And so many references of Minoa are analogous - the many ram references- to King Min of Egypt.
I’ve travelled to Crete the Greece island of the Minos. It had a clear, I mean CLEAR Egyptian influence with the bright colors everywhere. They were a society created prior to the formation of Greece.
🤺☦🇷🇺The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
"The kinship of all Greeks in blood and speech, and the shrines of gods and the sacrifices that we have in common, and the likeness of our way of life." Herodotus, 8.144.2
@Stratos I They make up a third now, but there were also flood myths in the americas also. Also how is that bias showing? You just explained that it spread over europe and was in the first civilization, ( and it’s also in the americas) and that IS all over the world.
A group of scientists in 1997 proposed the Black Sea deluge hypothesis in which during the Quartenary Period the Black Sea was an inland lake not connected to the Mediterranean. There is evidence that the shoreline was much further in than it is at present, and Bob Ballard did find evidence of man-made structures beneath a few meters below the surface. It is thought that around 5600 BC there was a catastrophic natural disaster which may have released the Mediterranean waters into the Black Sea basin increasing its size and destroying whatever human settlements that existed near the ancient shoreline. Beyond cultural influence of borrowing stories from one another, the memory of this and the passing down of stories and myths of a great flood would explain the existence of these stories throughout the ancient Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean. In the Americas such flood myths can be explained by more localized flood events.
@Stratos I there are many flood myths around the world from the native americans to regions in india that talk about a flood during the time of the gods. There was a gigantic sea level rise around 12 000 years ago which caused world wide floods. Tribes that existed back then passed the stories down. There is no other explanation to why countless cultures talk about a flood myth.
Hellenic culture was completely engineered. How free can we have people believe they are while having a culture/society that is fully subjugated to corporate interests.
It’s interesting that almost if not every culture has a story about the flood of Noah. We know from the Bible that Noah and his children lived before the flood and lived up to 900 years old. Because we don’t know how they aged if you knew this older guy when you were a child and when you became an old man and this person looked the same way you remember as a child. This is more than likely how Greece would have a religion of God’s mating with humans mistaken men who lived before the flood as a God. This is my speculation from study. The holy Bible old covenant and new covenant
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, that is 100% correct, and was the same situation with all gentiles... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, we do know... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
Giuseppe Catapano: "Atlantis which disappeared 12,000 years ago, was the land of the Pelasgians (ancestors of Albanians), who escaped the flood of Atlantis and began new civilizations on all continents, especially in Europe, Africa and small Asia". THOTH spoke Albanian! Thot means "to say" in Albanian Language. Zeus was a Pelasgian, not a Helen! Illyad and Odyssey were oral poems of Pelasgians. The Oracle of Zeus, Dodona of Epirus was the Tempel of Pelasgians. After Illyad, the Language of Gods was Gheg, North Albanian Dialect. (Herodotus)
Has anyone noticed that every religious and or polytheistic or Asian cultures as well as pre Native American and native Americans all refer to a flood I’ve started noticing this
The storytelling is quite ok, the pictures though are most times irrelevant and misleading. A mixture of ancient Greek artifacts, artifacts of other periods and civilizations, modern representations of different styles and intensions, it’s a complete mess.
Crete had people ovet 130.000 years ago who are indigenous to the land and litterly came out of tunnels from underground to find rocks and ocean So they littetly had to conquer the sea to live... Its muuuch older then taught about Other then that I agree , this video is dead on about the wrest and yes things not taught about , and easily and well explained quick. Good stuff :)
🤺☦🇷🇺 The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians. Here is the correct division of the Greek family: *YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians): *Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks) *Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans) *Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians) *Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
Ohhh u want me to repeat it ok... Crete had people 130000 years ago from under ground and a footprint 6million years old.. north Greece 8 mill. I don't know why u wrote that to me but thanks lol Acually for modern times u are correct though
@@liveforever9888 All the pyramids around the world were built by the Greeks. They would navigate the Earth with a ancient Greek computer. You can Google that if you like. Ancient Greek computer. And they would build the pyramids according to the planets which are the 12 God's of Olympus? When we were enslaved they stole our history by forcing Christianity on us. This is the facts.
The minoans painted their skins red, but only the men, if you see an image of a Minoan couple the man will always have red painted skin and the women white.
his name has an origin that was passed down throughout thousands of years. He was likely an extraterrestrial that visited us in the past whom the people at the time thought he was a god because they wouldn’t be able to comprehend an alien from another world.
@@nidhint.r1516 because most myths are based off of real encounters. Zeus odin osiris gilgamesh all of them were aliens that the ancient people thought were gods because they couldn’t comprehend aliens. That’s why they always talk about gods coming down from the sky
its gunna be crazy to try to explain whata computer was to my grandchildren after they pull theplug and only let royalty of the world have technology agian
the Minoans wouldn't even recognize their land or its people if they were able to time travel to this period indo europeans were prolly so unique looking and darker in skin color (for the most part)
MAKE KIDS STUPID I just made a serious correction to a major mistake on my third video before 8 am today, all three on completely different subjects and I'm not that smart. This is happening with greater frequency on serious subjects in respectable looking presentations, like the wrong people named in historic events ? The wrong names for political figures in an event, the wrong country in current events ! This one had a major one, and it's no wonder we have children that parrot idiocy. I'm an average citizen, not a scholar. Too numerous to even mention, yesterday was the "apathy " Attilla the Hun felt so he fiercely struck back. My eyes cross, soon to become permanent; an occassional mistake is ok. This is the slaughter of a fine language.
I appreciate free history content as much as the next nerd, but you guys play a little fast and loose with your facts for my tastes. Honestly, you’re a history channel that consistently gets basic facts wrong.
Real History at ΑΝΙΟΧΤΗ ΑΚΑΔΗΜΙΑ ΜΙΝΩΙΚΩΝ ΜΕΛΕΤΩΝ UA-cam as far as language, alphabets, and e c t ,the writing methods, witch city states used the same system, and time period . Hieroglyphs, Linear A
National name for tribes of Greece in the Bronze Age = Achaeans
National name for tribes of Greece as per Italic tribes = Greeks
National name for tribes of Greece as per Asiatic nations = Ionians
National name for tribes of Greece as per Greeks themselves = Hellenes
National name for Greeks of the Eastern Roman Empire = Romans
Long history, several terms for the one and the same people.
What about the Dorians?
@@Judge_Magister The Dorians were one of the greek tribes , along with Aeolians, Achaeans, and Ionians. These tribes all had highly similar culture and religion but also distinct national identity and dialect. As it is explained in the video the national identity in these old times was much more... narrow, geografically. All tribes, however viewd themselves as having the same ethnicity and referred to themselves as Hellenes.
@@sarantis1995 "National identity" here I guess is "state identity" or "tribal identity". The word "nation" is used very vaguely today but I would prefer to use it as the latin/french/english translation of the Greek word "ethnos".
@@Judge_Magister You mean who were the Dorians? They were Greek tribes which originated from Western Macedonia and Eastern Epirus, i.e. they were the mountainous tribes residing in the Pindus mountain range in north Greece. We already find the term "Dorian" in Linear B tablets referring to what we presume were "servants" or "slaves" so it is safe to presume that these mountainous tribes were trickling to the southern richer and more advanced states as labour force, i.e. as "slaves"/"servants" or, very plausibly as mercenaries. We know for example that Achilles' Myrmidones were in fact Dorians, it is explicitly mentioned in the Iliad since Homer calls them "Hellenes" back at a time the term "Hellenes" was not a national term for all Greek tribes but rather a tribal name of Dorians.
So Dorians were trickling down from Macedonia into Thessaly - that is presumably where they got the name "Hellenes", residing in a region called Hellas, mentioned by Homer - they either named it themselves or adopted the name after it being a local pre-existing one. To be noted Homer describes these "Hellenes" (i.e. Dorians) as "Achaeans" in the ethnic/national term thus telling us that they were a different tribal set but always withing the ethnic group of the rest of Achaeans, i.e. the rest of Greeks (as said, back then the national term for all Greek tribes was "'Achaeans"). In Thessaly, perhaps the oldest Dorian invasion was that of the Magnetes who took over Magnesia. Them they retained their Dorian dialect. The rest of Dorians who ruled over Thessaly adopted rather the pre-existing Aeolian dialect.
A sub-group of Dorians from south Thessaly, from the old kingdom of Achilles which contained the region of Hellas, moved southwards taking over Boetia and its main cities, Orchomenos and Thebes (descendants of these spoke a mixed Aeolian-Dorian dialect, called Boetian). And then moved further south. After failing to capture Attica which was well defended by the local Achaeans (ancestors of the later Ionians living there, known as Attics/Athenians), they jumped over into Peloponesus and after a succession of wars they finally took over Argos and then a generation later moved into Sparta. Once done that, a part of their aristocracy moved back to their original birthplace, in Macedonia which back then was fragmented into tiny kingdoms and set a kingdom which evolved into the later known kingdom of Macedonia. The kingdom of Macedonia as we know it expanded then further to the east subjugating the Thraecian tribes one by one - but beware when we mean "Thraecian" here we again speak of Greek tribes as the term "'Thraecian" was a regional one, not an ethnic one. It is very unfortunate that today this is fantacized as some kind of "ethnic" term when in reality the 100% of these "Thraecian" tribes living south of the Rhodope mountain range spoke Greek, had Greek culture and had the same Gods. Not to be mixed with northern Thraecians, i.e. tribes residing north of Rhodope mountain range (in modern day Bulgaria) whose ethnic identity is uknown to this day (though even them left the 100% of their written record in Greek and Greek only, for whatever reason - not of this topic of course).
Dorians also organised the kingdom of Epirus. The Aetolians and Akarnanians in western Greece were also Dorians but it is not sure whether they were invaders there or if they had been locals such as in the case of Epirus and Macedonia.
What is interesting in this is that if we study Achaeans we will soon find that they were not, themselves too, locals of Peloponesus. In Peloponesus there was another set of Greek tribes, called Arcadians, who were found in the mountainous center of this islandic-like piece of Greek land. So all chances are that Achaeans too could had been a product of an earlier invasion into Peloponesus... we could even presume that Achaeans themselves were an earlier "Dorian-like" invaasion from central or northern Greece that may had happened many centuries before the Trojan War, somewhere in the early (3000 BC) or at latest middle-Bronze Age (around 2000 BC).
What you need to keep out of all this is that we always talk of local Greek tribes moving around. We have no evidence of any "newcomers". This is the reason why all these tribes spoke dialects of theirs but always within the Greek language, always having the same general culture in spite of their regional differences. I am stating this because in the past 2-3 centuries many wanted to fantacize about "out of Greece" invaders coming in and wrecking the place which was something that now we know for sure did not happen. All the Bronze Age collapse and the coming of the Dark Ages actually was a self-inflicted misery caused by the Greek tribes themselves. If you think of it, this is in fact an even darker scenario! And a good lesson to everybody of how civilisation may collapse, and so easily.
Φιλε.what about ,cooper age obsidian age , Πελασγους Αρκαδες, Μινυες Κυκλαδητες, ετεοκρητες Κουρητες,;;;; See ΑΝΟΙΧΤΗ ΑΚΑΔΗΜΙΑ ΜΙΝΩΙΚΩΝ ΜΕΛΕΤΩΝ UA-cam, Η ΙΣΤΩΡΙΑ ΤΩΝ ΑΡΧΑΙΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΞΑΝΑΓΡΑΦΕΤΕ .
Nice! You explained quite correctly the mistake of calling all Hellenes Greeks!
Back then there was not the concept of countries. There were just nations.
The Hellenic nation consisted of many Hellenic tribes:
Thracians, Makedonians, Thessalians, Epirus, Minoans, Achaeans… etc etc
One of these was the Γραικοί/grekoi
Grekoi colonised the southern part of Italy and the Etruscans thought that all Hellenes were Grekoi…
That’s why the Romans named us Graeci!
And that’s why even today, all the southern part of Italy is known as Magna Grecia/greater Hellas.
Grekoi means nothing but Hellas has a very interesting meaning!
First, in Hellenic it’s Ελλάς / Ellás.
The stress is on the second syllable.
El + las
*El* is a proto-Hellenic term meaning Sun
Ελ - Ελιος or Ήλιος =
El -Elios or Ilios > Helios: Sun in English
*Las* is a proto-Hellenic term meaning literally rock but metaphorically soil/land.
From las came the term land.
Eng-land > the land of Aglos
Deutsch-land the land of Deutsch…
So, Hellas means the land of Sun/light
Hellenes means the sons of Sun
Hellenic means the language of light!
Hellenes never referred to ourselves as Grekoi…
Calling all Hellenes Greeks it’s like me calling all Americans Californians…
It’s like calling the island of Britain Londonia and every British person Londoner…
Interesting
Great explanation ! Thanks
It is not a mistake. Nations often have several names. Italic tribes including Romans met the Graikoii tribe thus called us "Graechi". Hellenes were originall a Dorian tribe of South Thessaly and by conquering Peloponesus they sptead their tribal name as a national name for all tribes. In the East Ionians were the predominant tribe thus Asiatic people including the Persians called us Yunani/Yauna. There is no error in this. Remember that back in the Bronze Age the most predominant tribe were the Achaeans and that was also our national name it seems. Later on in the Middle Ages, having adopted the Roman citizenship, the term "Roman" had become a national name for Greeks. So depending on era, you have Achaeans, Hellenes, Greeks, Ionians and Romans all being national names of Greeks. No error. Just historical circumstances.
@@dinos9607 you are wrong!
Hellenes is an umbrella that contain all the others!
Hellenes were divided in four main races:
Dorians
Aeolians
Achaeans
Ionians
Each of the Hellenic nations were belonging in one of these races:
*Dorians* = Peloponnesians, Makedonians…etc
*Aoelians* = Thessalians…etc
*Achaeans* = Mycenaeans…etc
*Ionians* all the Hellenes of Minor Asia and Thrace…
Hellenes
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Dorians Aeolians Ionians Achaeans
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Sparta Thessaly Thrace Mycenae
Makedonia Minor Asia
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During the Roman era every citizen of the empire could be called as ‘’Roman’’
During the Byzantine era, the Hellenes were self called Ρωμιοί/Romií not Ρωμαίοι/Romans.
Romiòs meant Hellene and Orthodox Christian in contrast to the term Roman which later was associated with Italy and Catholicism.
It was a misunderstanding by the Etruscans/Italians that all Hellenes we were Grekoi because they met only the Frekoi that colonised their lands.
On the other hand, the Middle Eastern tribes call all Hellenes Yunans> Ionians which is also wrong because not all Hellenes are Ionians!
Herodotus, Homer, Plato, Thucydides… all of our ancestors were calling themselves Hellenes even though some were Grekoi, some Ionians, some Achaeans… etc
We are all Hellenes!
@@Kolious_Thrace What I am saying is that just like tribal "Greeks" gave the national name among Italic (and by extension to Europeans) tribes, just like the tribal "Ionians" gave the national name among Lydians (and by extension to most Asians), the tribal "Hellenes" who were Dorian tribes from South Thessaly (and part of Achille's army at Troy - Homer mentions that explicitly), gave the national name among us. It is the same procedure really. The only difference is that the one process occurred in Italy, the other in Minor Asia and the third in mainland Greece. But essentially there is no difference in the process. We call Iranians as "Persians" who were only one of the Iranian tribes. Earlier in archaic times we were calling them as " Medes" again from another Iranian tribe. Nations do tend to have mutiple names. We call the French as Galloi. Magyars are called Hungarians and Suomi Finnish. So you see, it is not even any Greek particularity here. Asking people to call us Hellenes is of no importance at all when all three names are essentially Greek. Greek is fine, Yunan is fine and ours, Hellenes, is also fine. I am fine with Roman too - and no there is no difference between " Romaios" and "Romios", the same thing just different accent. When we speak of Romans of the Eastern Roman Empire, particularly after the loss of Syria and Egypt, we mean us Greeks and that is how it was. None was calling as "Romans" the Bulgarians or the Serbians or the Armenians even if they far too often were part of the Empire.
Greece gave so much to the world proud to be Greek
Τι είναι το Ελληνικό σου όνομα?
the modern Greeks have not much in common with the Greeks of the antiquity.
@@palisadenhonko4962 hello my friend, unfortunately for you you are wrong. You can find on the internet a research which was conducted in Harvard and it says that modern greeks are direct descendants of the ancient ones. You need to educate yourself, and not say foolish things without giving your sources, you make yourself look fool.
@@y.p.9797 sure buddy just add a thousand gears of turkification and orebtial influence
@@hattorihaso2579 you clearly don't know history nor biology. Pretty funny how you have an opinion
We know almost nothing about what transpired during the period in Greek history that followed the collapse of the Mycenaean civilization and into the Archaic Age. The most amazing thing about this mystery is the fact that after a long blank period there all of a sudden appeared a new alphabet, an unbelievable perfect language and so much wisdom and culture. I believe we are missing a tremendous important part of the puzzle, which will require further archeological research until we can get the full picture.
It is true that that period is to a great extent obscured in darkness, as are many, many periods of ancient history. But the greek alphabet was not new; as mentioned in the video, it was greatly influenced by the phoenecian alphabet. You can check more about it here: ua-cam.com/video/J0FdFQ4v2nU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HistoryWithHilbert
Greek history has been stolen what you just mentioned was the evolution of the Greek language which started from the pyramids. The pyramids were all built by the Greeks. When the new alphabet came out all our prior history was stolen. The language that the albanians claim for their own is the way the Greeks communicated before the alphabet.
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed the pyramids are far older than the greeks or egyptians. They were built by an older civilization that got wiped out by the floods. Then the egyptians tried to re create them hence the smaller pyramids that came after.
Greek history is way older than what we are told. Just like the alphabet took many evolutionary steps. Those civilizations you mentioned are prior Greek civilizations. Just like the Mesopotamians just like the Minoans the list goes on. Just because the language doesn't look the same anymore doesn't mean that the people are not the same. Look up ancient Greek computer. No way can such a device be created without thousands and thousands of years of ingenuity. There is no way so much knowledge was created in such a short amount of time that we are told. Plato's writings say that Atlantis was destroyed 11,000 years before he wrote his notes. All of the Middle East is littered with Greek ground murals. They just found Hercules statue in turkey and they found a gigantic stadium. There is no other people on this planet that could have had the knowledge to build anything.
My theory is that a new kind of sophisticated modern people appeared as a result of human evolution. And these peoples genes spread all Greek territory by marrying. Anthropologiests and genetic engineers could solve this mystery. Could be an alien intervention to our genetics also
when the library of Alexandria was destroyed, the knowledge about Greek real history was also lost, the Greek alphabet is the most perfect of all languages and this is because it creates new words all the time
King Philip the 2nd of Macedonia wasn't poisoned he was assassinated
True that, he was stabbed in the ribs at a wedding.... He wasn't poisoned at all.... Where did you guys come up with that information??
@@philipdriscoll5733 acute metal poisoning
He was killed by his guard
Probably true, but if he WAS (intentionally) poisoned that would ALSO imply he was assassinated
He was assassinated by poison
"FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Hellenic Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes.”
The Greeks and their Heritage, A.J Toynbee, 1st Korais Professor of Greek Studies
Byzantines nevers existed they where romans
@@hattorihaso2579 "As heirs to the Greeks and Romans of old, the Byzantines thought of themselves as Rhomaioi, or Romans, though THEY KNEW FULL WELL that they were ETHNICALLY GREEKS."
(see also: Savvides & Hendricks 2001).Niehoff 2012, Margalit Finkelberg, "Canonising and Decanonising Homer: Reception of the Homeric Poems in Antiquity and Modernity", p. 20 or Pontificium Institutum Orientalium Studiorum 2003, p. 482:
"After the Empire lost non-Greek speaking territories IN THE 7th AND 8th CENTURIES, "Greek" (Ἕλλην), when not used to signify "pagan", became synonymous with "Roman" (Ῥωμαῖος) and "Christian" (Χριστιανός) to mean a Christian Greek citizen of the [Eastern] Roman Empire."
"Roman, GREEK (if not used in its sense of 'pagan') and Christian became SYNONYMOUS terms, counter-posed to 'foreigner', 'barbarian', 'infidel'. The citizens of the Empire, now predominantly of GREEK ethnicity and language, were often called simply ό χριστώνυμος λαός 'the people who bear Christ's name'."
Harrison, Thomas (2002). Greeks and Barbarians. New York: Routledge., p. 268
@@hattorihaso2579 "The Byzantine empire was clearly, despite its multinational dimension, a Greek empire while its neighbours considered it so, and whose unity was based on the power of authority, in the dominance of Orthodoxy and the use of Greek as the official language."
Sylvain Gouguenheim, "La gloire des Grecs", 2017, pp.73
"The discussion of dates also highlights the differences in the ethnic and cultural mix between the two halves of the Roman world and the distinctness of the medieval state from its earlier Roman heritage. The Byzantines called themselves 'Romans', their emperor was basileon ton Rhomaion or 'Emperor of the Romans' and their capital was 'New Rome'. However, the most common language was Greek, and it is fair to say that for the vast majority of its history, the Byzantine Empire WAS MUCH MORE GREEK THAN ROMAN in cultural terms."
Byzantine Empire: Definition by Mark Cartwright
@@vangelisskia214 eeeihm yeah no they where romans a multi ethnic empire with lots of ethnixities and greek being the lingua franca get the fuck over urself the byzantines never existed just romans
@@hattorihaso2579 Roman identity was solely a political identity until the empire was geographically reduced to mostly Greek speaking areas at around the 7th century A.D. Only after the loss of Syria and North Africa by the Muslims, the term "ROMAIOS" gradually took an ethno-linguistic sense referring ONLY to the GREEK SPEAKING Chalcedonian Christians (who now were the majority population of the empire), utterly becoming a SYNONYM of the terms "GREEK" (which was always being used as a semantic equivalent of "Hellene") and "HELLENE" itself which gradually also revived with it's original ethno-cultural connotation (since paganism was no longer a threat) and came to refer to the same peoples till this very day.
The ancient Greeks for a time were truly the power basis of the world and had various great set up and landmass and landscapes and so on yeah.
Hellenic history is amazing
WTF is Hellenic? That word don't make sense in the Greek language. Hell is not part of our tittle. Ελλάδα. Where do you see the H. The H is an E in Greek the same E used in the American language so where do they find Hell? Greeks are the only people of God not Hell.
I will be the one to make the change.
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed "Η" is the δασεία that doesn't exist anymore, either as a letter nor as a sound in modern Greek spelling, but has survived in romance languages, that is the modern languages that evolved from Vulgar Latin between the third and eighth centuries. Nothing to do with God or Hell, then! Are you sure you can speak Greek?
Κοίτα να δεις έχουμε τώρα και τη μαϊμού να μας πει για την Ελληνική γλώσσα Xα χαχα
E is the sound all Europe knows. Η has nothing to do with ΕEEΕλλάδα
Where do you find H to sound like E.
Why is the Greek supposed to listen to non-Greeks to teach us about Greek? Are you ok?
Ancient Greece, the cradle of western civilization. One of the greatest civilizations in history. The pioneers of democracy and modern science came out from there. Greek philosophers' legacies and what they did, are still felt today and will be continued forever. Hence, Greek mythology has always been a huge inspiration source for books, movies, and games.
I think ancient Rome is the cradle of Western Civilization more so than ancient Greece. The Romans were the ones that actually introduced complex civilization to western Europe, all of European culture and history can be traced back to the Romans, not the Greeks.
@@The.Renovator the romans just copied everything greek and represented at the known world.how is possible that you missing that part ?lol
Name one civilization that is greatest?
@@MC-bu6ez since the romans copied the greek one so i voting the greek as the greatest
Just a little addition. The Latin alphabet was a western variant of the Greek alphabet, used in the first Greek colonies of southern Italy, Pithecusa and Kyme (nowadays the towns of Procida and Cuma). I'm writing from Cuma now.
latins were first cousins with greeks ,their roots coming straight from troy and aineias .War of troy was a civil war...as always In greece...Moreover there were no translators between troyans and achaians 10 years of war just like sparta and athens... and they were just swearing each other in greek!
@@christostentes3199 unbelievable! You quoted Aeneas! In his book Eneide written by Vergil in the chapter 6, there is the lake of Avernus. I live very close to the lake. Unbelievable that Aeneas is known outside of italy!
@@lucaschiantodipepe2015 He was greek aineas,petheas,perseas etc...its agreek word!
@@lucaschiantodipepe2015 we all know aeneas in greece,southern italians with greeks are brothers
Latin script evolved from Etruscan, Etruscan evolved from Greek, Greek evolved from Phoenician, Phoenician evolved from Proto-Sinaitic, and Proto-Sinaitic evolved from ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs.
Pelasgians, Minyans-Minoans, Mycenaeans are all same in DNA as Greeks. The only differences are the names. Also Greek alphabet had been made from Phoenician GREEKS settlers and not Semitic Phoenicians. There there were Minoans known as Peleset (Pelasgians), then became Philistaioi and finally Palaistinioi. They had come from Crete after the explosion of the Thera volcano (~1650bc). That's why there is a dispute about whether or not the alphabet is Greek or just Phoenician etc.
My respect Euthime!!!!!
@@mikefrantzeskakis1513 Ευχαριστώ :)
Can you explain more ? What has phoniciend to do with greeks
@@kousseilashakur672 Read it again but slowly, so you can understand.
@@Efthimis_xatz phoniciens greeks ? How come
In October 336 BCE, king Philip ll of Macedonia was killed by Pausanias, not poisoned, how can you get that so wrong?
And ,,,Solon ??? Who the heck was he???
You erroneously state that Philip II of Macedon was poisoned. He was not. He was stabbed by a bodyguard.
I wish I could go back and see these civilizations Ancient Greece and Rome and visit cities like Babylon and Constantinople. That would be fucking sick.
What would be sick about it ?
What is this sickness you say?
You won't last even for few hours.
@@HimanshuSingh-ce8tf speak for yourself you don’t know me, and who said anything about surviving?
@@agnimoraitidi1770 that’s a stupid question why are you even watching this video ?
Minoans and Mycenaeans were Greeks
So were the Pelasgians and the Minyans
Minoans weren't. Mycenaeans were.
It's language that defines Greekness first and foremost.
Pelasgians, Minyans-Minoans, Mycenaeans are all same DNA with Greeks. Same in DNA, not in name. JUST LIKE THAT.
@@tudormardare66 Minoans were too. The only exception is that they were using linear A too. Linear A hasn't been yet decrypted, but it will in the near future. Also the language of Greeks has been changing in the millennials starting from the Pelasgians as engraved symbols, like the Egyptian ones. After many natural destructions and the known floods of the Greek mythology, Linear A comes as a fragmentation of Pelasgian language. Then came Linear B more simplistic than linear A but still with symbols and finally the "Kadmeia" or "Phoeniciia" letters that as the Greek mythology says Kadmos brought them from Greek Phoenicia or Philistaia. Others say that they've been called Phoenician, because of the paint that were painted, the "Phoinos" or "Porphyros" or red. Finally others say that : φοινίκεια, διὰ τούτων φοινήσσεται ὁ νοῦς, ἤγουν λαμπρύνεται. [( They've been called phoeniceia, because from them the brain lights up)(from thoughts)].
Minoans we’re not Greeks everyone knows that, Mycenaean were not Greeks either they became Greeks.
Personally I don't think the question has ever been answered as to and how and why the Ancient Greeks became such an enlightened people . I mean hec man look .....the birth place of democracy , huge advancements in geometry , mathematics , medicine, the sciences , architecture , philosophy and even our very forms of government and judicial systems today were all birthed in that extraordinary country by its people . No wonder Greece is called the cradle of Western Civilization .
NO society ever reached the heights that were attained by Ancient Greece. An incredible people . The world we live in today is a Hellenised world . The Greeks of today should remember who they were , and who they still are , .......if they can find it within themselves .
🤺☦🇷🇺Democracy? Who cares... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy What you have said is extremely interesting, but I must confess I have no knowledge of it.
I began reading all the comments that have been made on this video, some of them go back over a year ago. Seems this video had sparked a great deal of debate on the Ancient Greeks, who they were and where they came from. I don't know how accurate it all is, as we are going back in time a good deal. One commentator here even stated the Egyptian pyramids were built by one of subcultures within the multiple Greek tribes or groups. It's a bit too deep for me but thank you for your comment.
All I know is that as time progressed all these different tribes or groups must have come together to call themselves HELLENES, WITH ONE LANGUAGE ONE RELIGION ONE CULTURE. They went on to achieve remarkable things.
Thank you again for what you contributed to the discussion.
@@andrewmiller4885 Thanks. Well, we who follow the table of nations, and research it with ancient sources, archeology and dna, know 100% who the Greeks are, so you can count on my data. Don't listen to the freaks who try to hijack others peoples cultures, like the American freaks and that western m0r0n who said Greeks built the pyramids - that something that should be mocked and laughed at. Egyptians built the pyramids! People shouldn't be sticking their nose in other peoples cultures. No wonder that m0r0n thinks minoans were Greeks lol
They did not come together as one people . Their contributions came of diversity
Great narrative: exhaustive, to the point, never boring. Congratulations on your admirable work and keep on your good job. Thank you so much!
Thanks for your comment Massimo!
PS You made a little mistake, though: Philip II was stabbed by one of his seven bodyguards, Pausanias son of Orestes, during the incestuous wedding of his daughter Cleopatra. It happens that I just started reading a book about Antipater, one of his clever generals who became really influential during the reign of Alexander, and this is why I know the whereabouts of the Macedon's death. It's a really petty detail, but it spoils a little the great quality of all your report, otherwise flawless.
Sub love listening to this while playing video games. So calming and soothing.
What I find interesting is that, during the Mahabaratham & Ramayanam period; The scriptures of the epic was completed between 5th BCE and 4th CE ( time of decline from archaic age into fall to rome ) ; The events itself takes place around 31st BCE up tp 1100 BCE ( time of the minoans , Myceaeans ), Alot of stories and morals are shared, but something I found interesting was : In the epics, there is a constant message to 'humanity' that we are going into the 'kali' age ( a time of decline in moral values and time where 'sins' flourish i.e: greed, lust, intoxication etc. The same thing in the history of greece at the exact same time! (This is in India btw)
mind = blown
Hesiod mirrors the same sentiments when he speaks abou tthe Iron Age when mankind is in decline.
hi Capavating History thank you I injoyed this video like always you make it fun and interesting and thank you for it being captioned so I could understand what you we're saying and injoy the video have a goodnight and a very good Friday and coming weekend :-)
Injoy? Injoyed?.... I very much enjoyed this comment....
@@philipdriscoll5733 hi Philip Driscoll and good morning and thank you for you're reply and thank you for you're kind words :-) well I'm glad you injoyed my comment let's see injoy as you are injoying something as you we're in the middle of it injoyed as you did injoy something that you just finished or referred either to something as you are in the middle of it or you had finished ah then again what the He'll do I know lol :-D ha ha just kidding you have very good Friday and coming weekend Philip Driscoll :-)
Reading the comments one has to be very careful not to take them seriously because each person who comments may have some knowledge of true historic facts that they learnt from somewhere but most of what is written is mixed, distorted, made up and inaccurate or just don't make any sense. People should be careful and only comment to say if they liked the video or not and not try educating others when they do not have the qualifications to do so.
Agni ... ::
You make some great observations ; but people have knowledge and want to share on UA-cam.
Some of these videos have mistakes and have been corrected by commentators.
There are so many issues surrounding Ancient History, I don't think we will ever know the fully-complete History and especially FACTS !
One thing is certain ::
when they tell us that a particular "God" impregnated a particular mortal and began a magnificent lineage ... well ... it's time to start asking serious questions about that "lineage" !
Loved it good job
This was very well presented and entertaining. For some reason now that I'm 30 I have a renewed interest in ancient history
The fourth age was the age of heros! This is my the fifth age "the iron age"!
The Greeks learned mathematics from the people that came from planet Serios! Also their DNA is the same.
Their history goes back more than 50.000 years. From the many destractions earthquakes, floads etc history is lost! They are the first humans on this planet. Prometheus is the titan that gave them the knowledge!
Their history is endless and fantastic!
This documentary is very nice! Thank you! 😉
Greetings from a Greek Spartan named Georgios!
Thank you georgios. are the ages happening at the same time, like a cycle?
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, we do know... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
King Phillip II wasn’t poisoned. He was assassinated by Pausanias, his bodyguard and ex-lover.
lover meant comrade back then. They werent sexually or romantically involved. Thats only woke propaganda
"The Homeric poems were first written down in more or less their present form in the seventh century B.C. Since then GREEK HAS ENJOYED A CONTINUOUS TRADITION DOWN TO THE PRESENT DAY. Change there has certainly been. But there has been no break like that between Latin and Romance languages. Ancient Greek is not a foreign language to the Greek of today as Anglo-Saxon is to the modern Englishman. The only other language which enjoys comparable CONTINUITY OF TRADITION is Chinese."
Browning 1983, p. vii: Medieval and Modern Greek Robert Browning Cambridge University Press, Aug 18, 1983
Greece began as inland ports for Atlantis, Crete, as early as 2350 BC. They were the royal house of Egypt that left Egypt following 2447 BC Exodus. The National Geographic places the volcanic eruption in the south Agean Sea that destroyed the north side of Atlantis withany of the islands sinking.
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Nice understanding video sir thank you so much from India 🇮🇳
🤺☦🇷🇺You Indians are a mix of the Semitic Sheba, the Hamitic Sumerians, and the Japhetic Madai... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy lol
@@levesd3722 🤣👉 🇺🇲🧟♂️: "lol...lol...lol..."
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
ancient greek did not begin, greeks are the beginning of everything.
Greeks are mongol immigrants
Keep on the great work 😉
Amazing video, based on historical data!
This would be one of the places I’d go back to in a time machine. See building blocks to western civilization being laid.
Me too. When I was younger I was obsessed with Ancient Greece
How old are u now if u don’t mind
it's easy... they all came from Babylon.
@@mhenrique4860 not really.
How is it possible ,since we know Deukalions flood is dated at approximately 9500 B.C. (meaning that before this event Greek civilisation was already present) , you say that Greeks are only 2000 years old ? And who were the great Minyans builders (Greeks of Thessaly back in the 3rd millenia)? Do your homework guys ;)
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ When someone uses the fraud of "hindoeuropeans" i have no other option than to ....rest my case ! :)
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ Zeus derives fom the Greek word "Ζευξις" - Zefksis as pronounced in the latin alphabet , which means "combining in pairs" and is a characteristic of the diety of "Διας" - Deus (later "Dio" ;) ) , thus explaining that Zeus - Deus is the combiner of ..... etc etc. What does it mean in Sanskrit ?? Sorry . nothing personal its just nessecary to dive deeper into the ancient texts and languages and not how convienient everybodies opininion is . My regards !
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ a theory for uneducated people only,educate your self
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ prove it
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ I am not the one who is so obsessed in supporting such theories, so go ahead and prove it yourself.
I would appreciate a study of central and northern Europe before the Romans.
Tribes,Paganism & battles...
🤺☦🇷🇺Romans were also Greeks... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
Modern Albanians are Dagestanis Egyptians East Asians from the 1944 Communist Relocation.
I think they are a slavic subgroup/tribe tbh
@@sprc155 It's certainly possible.
@@levesd3722 probably a Bulgarian subgroup
@@sprc155 Like the Avars.
@@levesd3722 yeah exactly actually they might be related to them. I don't think they are from Caucasus cause Armenia and Georgia are ancient AF and Albania has insignificant culture
myceneaneans and minoans were populations of the aegean space. we do not know how the minoas called themselves because we have no records or texts about these but we know for sure how the myceneaneas called themselves. also the use of the name hellas is already from the myceneanean era but its a name given in some cities. the myceneaneas had primarly an organization close to the origins of some ancestors and like a tribal organization as the classical greeks had also a tribal organisation later. there is not any clear evidence that the bronze age populations came from china or mars but there are lot of references in the ancient texts that do not talk about massive and total colonization of people. so anyone can do any ypothesis want but they cannot support it scientifically.
They where called Minoan because of there kings name. Minoa it's not the name of the race
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, we do know... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
Always been highly interested in Ancient Greece
they are everywhere
Thank you. I believe Herodoto or Thucydides stated the Egyptians gave the Greeks the name Hellenes from Hellen and if you read the Ancient Greek texts, Thucydides mentions in the beginning chapters of the Hellenes chapters that its founded by Menes or Minos. The only Minos that there was, to my understanding was King Min of Egypt. And so many references of Minoa are analogous - the many ram references- to King Min of Egypt.
King Minos of Crete. Which is greece and Thucydides tells us he is reigned over Crete not Egypt.
I’ve travelled to Crete the Greece island of the Minos. It had a clear, I mean CLEAR Egyptian influence with the bright colors everywhere. They were a society created prior to the formation of Greece.
🤺☦🇷🇺The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy lolwhat???
@@levesd3722 lolwhat what? Can you read? Obviously not😅
i love your history programs. i am confused because your program says that phillip ii was poisoned but i thought he was killed by his body guard!!
"The kinship of all Greeks in blood and speech, and the shrines of gods and the sacrifices that we have in common, and the likeness of our way of life."
Herodotus, 8.144.2
Interesting how prevalent the global flood myth is across cultures all over the world...
Because there probably was one at some part in time and it burned itself into our common knowledge and was passed down through the ages
@Stratos I They make up a third now, but there were also flood myths in the americas also. Also how is that bias showing? You just explained that it spread over europe and was in the first civilization, ( and it’s also in the americas) and that IS all over the world.
A group of scientists in 1997 proposed the Black Sea deluge hypothesis in which during the Quartenary Period the Black Sea was an inland lake not connected to the Mediterranean. There is evidence that the shoreline was much further in than it is at present, and Bob Ballard did find evidence of man-made structures beneath a few meters below the surface. It is thought that around 5600 BC there was a catastrophic natural disaster which may have released the Mediterranean waters into the Black Sea basin increasing its size and destroying whatever human settlements that existed near the ancient shoreline. Beyond cultural influence of borrowing stories from one another, the memory of this and the passing down of stories and myths of a great flood would explain the existence of these stories throughout the ancient Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean. In the Americas such flood myths can be explained by more localized flood events.
There was one, there are archeological proof all over the world.
@Stratos I there are many flood myths around the world from the native americans to regions in india that talk about a flood during the time of the gods. There was a gigantic sea level rise around 12 000 years ago which caused world wide floods. Tribes that existed back then passed the stories down. There is no other explanation to why countless cultures talk about a flood myth.
Beautiful video!
The Minoan Liner A is Hellenic.... Also Linear B....
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think king Phillip got assassinated by a old lover turn bodyguard not poison.
Some references OF THE NAME GRAEC AND HELLEN from ancient Greek texts .
1. ᾤκουν γὰρ οἱ Σελλοὶ ἐνταῦθα καὶ οἱ καλούμενοι τότε μὲν Γραικοὶ (GRAECOI) νῦν δ' Ἕλληνες(HELLENES) (Αριστοτέλης, Μετεωρολογικά Α,352b) ARISTOTELES ,METEOROLOGIC A,352b.
2 . ο Ωρωπός καλουμενος Γραία(GRAEA) και η περιοχή αυτου Γραϊκή(GRAEKH).ARISTOTELES.
3 .«ὁ δὲ αἱρεῖται ἀνθρώπους αὐτῷ γενέσθαι. καὶ Διὸς εἰπόντος ὑπὲρ κεφαλῆς ἔβαλλεν αἴρων λίθους, καὶ οὓς μὲν ἔβαλε Δευκαλίων, ἄνδρες ἐγένοντο, οὓς δὲ Πύρρα, γυναῖκες. ὅθεν καὶ λαοὶ μεταφορικῶς ὠνομάσθησαν ἀπὸ τοῦ λᾶας ὁ λίθος. γίνονται δὲ ἐκ Πύρρας Δευκαλίωνι παῖδες Ἕλλην (HELLEN) μὲν πρῶτος, ὃν ἐκ Διὸς γεγεννῆσθαι λέγουσι, Ἀμφικτύων ὁ μετὰ Κραναὸν βασιλεύσας τῆς Ἀττικῆς, θυγάτηρ δὲ Πρωτογένεια, ἐξ ἧς καὶ Διὸς Ἀέθλιος. Ἕλληνος (HELLENO) δὲ καὶ νύμφης Ὀρσηίδος Δῶρος Ξοῦθος Αἴολος. αὐτὸς μὲν οὖν ἀφ᾽ αὑτοῦ τοὺς καλουμένους Γραικοὺς (GRAECOUS) προσηγόρευσεν Ἕλληνας (HELLENAS), τοῖς δὲ παισὶν ἐμέρισε τὴν χώραν»(Απολλόδωρος, Α, 7, 1 - 3) APOLLODORO , A,7,1-3.
4 . Βοιωτῶν μὲν Πηνέλεως καὶ Λήϊτος ἦρχον
Ἀρκεσίλαός τε Προθοήνωρ τε Κλονίος τε, 495
οἵ θ᾽ Yρίην ενέμοντο καὶ Αὐλίδα1 πετρήεσσαν
Σχοῖνόν τε Σκῶλόν τε πολύκνημόν τ᾽ Ἐτεωνόν,
Θέσπειαν Γραῖάν (GRAEAN) τε καὶ εὐρύχορον Μυκαλησσόν, (Ιλ. Β 498) HOMER ILIAD. B 498.
5."οι τε είχον Φθίην ήδ' Ελλάδα (HELLADA) καλλιγύναικα
Μυρμιδόνες δε καλεύντο και Έλληνες (HELLENES) και Αχαιοί"
HOMER ILIAD, Β -683,4 .
6 .Και η Γραία (GRAEA) δ’ εστι τόπος Ωρωπού πλησίον, και το ιερόν του Αμφιαράου, και το Ναρκίσσου του Ερετριέως μνήμα, ό καλείται Σιγηλού, επειδή σιγώσι παριόντες . Στράβων Θ-10 STRABONE. Θ-10
7 .Γραίκες (GRAEKES) δε παρά Αλκμάνι αι των Ελλήνων(HELLENON) μητέρες και παρά Σοφοκλεί εν Ποιμέσιν. ALKMAN VII ac , poet
Hellenic culture was completely engineered. How free can we have people believe they are while having a culture/society that is fully subjugated to corporate interests.
Greeks go way before 3500BC. The sesclos and Diminis go back to 6000BC. The Arcadians go before that.
What's the song in the background?
It’s interesting that almost if not every culture has a story about the flood of Noah. We know from the Bible that Noah and his children lived before the flood and lived up to 900 years old. Because we don’t know how they aged if you knew this older guy when you were a child and when you became an old man and this person looked the same way you remember as a child. This is more than likely how Greece would have a religion of God’s mating with humans mistaken men who lived before the flood as a God. This is my speculation from study. The holy Bible old covenant and new covenant
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, that is 100% correct, and was the same situation with all gentiles... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
Proselene tribe present in Arcadia from 37,000 BC
ha probably half of the mediteranian ppl and half middle east have a bit of Greece inside them
Nice work!
Ya benden çok eski bir kitap var ne olduğunu bilmiyorum bana yardımcı olursanız iyi olur yazısı altın yazısı
Love history
Ancient greece 🇬🇷
So much INCORRECT
As A Anatolian Pontus Turk we are proud to say we are the Ancient Helleens inhereted there Civilization,made it Great Again.
No mention to Pericles.
Time traveler talking to Minoan born in the bronze age collapse: "You knew the Sea People?"...."Well of course I knew them, they're me!"
Lake Superior ????? I have been there !!! He said !!
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, we do know... The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
You didn’t explain where Greek people came from (migration) and by using dates.
You started off with Greek mythology, which can be debated.
the mysterious sea people?
Phillip wasn’t poisoned ?
Your forgot cycladic civilization
The question is how did it end
Giuseppe Catapano: "Atlantis which disappeared 12,000 years ago, was the land of the Pelasgians (ancestors of Albanians), who escaped the flood of Atlantis and began new civilizations on all continents, especially in Europe, Africa and small Asia". THOTH spoke Albanian! Thot means "to say" in Albanian Language.
Zeus was a Pelasgian, not a Helen! Illyad and Odyssey were oral poems of Pelasgians. The Oracle of Zeus, Dodona of Epirus was the Tempel of Pelasgians. After Illyad, the Language of Gods was Gheg, North Albanian Dialect. (Herodotus)
Math is a visual explanation of concepts, not really needed to pile blocks
Has anyone noticed that every religious and or polytheistic or Asian cultures as well as pre Native American and native Americans all refer to a flood I’ve started noticing this
Almost like it happened😂
Γιατί δε μεταφράζονται στα ελληνικά ;
Theseus killed and captured minotaur not Minos
Right but he only killed him, he didn't capture him.
Philip wasn’t poisoned he was stabbed
The storytelling is quite ok, the pictures though are most times irrelevant and misleading. A mixture of ancient Greek artifacts, artifacts of other periods and civilizations, modern representations of different styles and intensions, it’s a complete mess.
No
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Inaccuracy in a lot of points, "same language and religion, but not the same "??
If by poisoned you mean stabbed a bunch of times by a bodyguard...
Philip was literally murdered at a wedding.
He was stabbed by a poisoned knife, thus he was poisoned.
M'kay?
Crete had people ovet 130.000 years ago who are indigenous to the land and litterly came out of tunnels from underground to find rocks and ocean
So they littetly had to conquer the sea to live... Its muuuch older then taught about
Other then that I agree , this video is dead on about the wrest and yes things not taught about , and easily and well explained quick.
Good stuff :)
🤺☦🇷🇺 The Greek family y-dna is J2a and J2b, but E-v13 is actually the so called "Minoan/Pelasgian" Y-dna, which is nothing but the Egyptian dna of the distinct sub-races of Egyptians called the Caslukhites from which came the Philistines who resettled later in the Levant (Canaan) = PELESET. It is the dna that represents Albanians as a whole, who are the Illyrian sub-races of Egyptians.
Here is the correct division of the Greek family:
*YAVAN* (Greeks/Ioanians):
*Elisha* (Aeolians: Hellas/Elis/Alishiya -mainland Greeks)
*Tarshish* (Etruscans: Tarsus, Cilicia-->Italy/Corsica/Tartessus/Troas; Teresh/Tyrrhenians -Tuscans)
*Kittim* (Achaeans: Cyprus+aegean islands - Macedonians)
*Dodanim* (Dorians: Dardanians, Dodana/Denyen/Dodecanese islands+Rhodes; Italics/Latins=Rome - Italians)
Ohhh u want me to repeat it ok... Crete had people 130000 years ago from under ground and a footprint 6million years old.. north Greece 8 mill. I don't know why u wrote that to me but thanks lol
Acually for modern times u are correct though
Lol it's not egyptian it's Phoenician wich was a mix of semetic ,Greek annnd yes eygypt
@@jonnymak1079 Wrong, it is an Egyptian race (E-v13), Phoenician are a different African sub-race (E-z830)
@@jonnymak1079 Excuse me? No, these are evolutionist myths, the world is about 6000 yes old wtf lol
Hellen of Troy?
no Hellen was a guy, the chick was Helen (one L) - same name tho, male and female variants. In Greek they are Hellin (M) and Heleni (F)
Everything is Greek. This planet is Greek.
Agreed. God is a proud Greek aswell.
@@liveforever9888 Thats !00% correct
@@liveforever9888 All the pyramids around the world were built by the Greeks. They would navigate the Earth with a ancient Greek computer. You can Google that if you like. Ancient Greek computer. And they would build the pyramids according to the planets which are the 12 God's of Olympus? When we were enslaved they stole our history by forcing Christianity on us. This is the facts.
Garlic Bread followed by Cheese followed by the antipesto
The minoans painted their skins red, but only the men, if you see an image of a Minoan couple the man will always have red painted skin and the women white.
Was Zeus real.
yeah he and my dad used to go discus together
his name has an origin that was passed down throughout thousands of years. He was likely an extraterrestrial that visited us in the past whom the people at the time thought he was a god because they wouldn’t be able to comprehend an alien from another world.
@@GG-ng6zm how are you so sure
@@nidhint.r1516 because most myths are based off of real encounters. Zeus odin osiris gilgamesh all of them were aliens that the ancient people thought were gods because they couldn’t comprehend aliens. That’s why they always talk about gods coming down from the sky
Yes he was real.
am i tripping or are the people in the painting at 3:02 black??
You are tripping
At least i'm not blind lol@@ΔημοςΛιακος
in 1:30 you are using outdated map. Yugoslavia is long gone
its gunna be crazy to try to explain whata computer was to my grandchildren after they pull theplug and only let royalty of the world have technology agian
the Minoans wouldn't even recognize their land or its people if they were able to time travel to this period indo europeans were prolly so unique looking and darker in skin color (for the most part)
MAKE KIDS STUPID I just made a serious correction to a major mistake on my third video before 8 am today, all three on completely different subjects and I'm not that smart. This is happening with greater frequency on serious subjects in respectable looking presentations, like the wrong people named in historic events ? The wrong names for political figures in an event, the wrong country in current events ! This one had a major one, and it's no wonder we have children that parrot idiocy. I'm an average citizen, not a scholar. Too numerous to even mention, yesterday was the "apathy " Attilla the Hun felt so he fiercely struck back. My eyes cross, soon to become permanent; an occassional mistake is ok. This is the slaughter of a fine language.
Omg it's not polies it's polis p-o-l-i-s I can't listen to this guy mispronounce my language
I been hearing about this "sea people" in other docs...
It began in 1821. When Turkey let them go.
Turkey started existing in 1923.
Not a whisper of the Cycladic culture. Shame!
Solman =Lincoln in past life
Or Washington. Or someone. I always suspected the founding fathers had Grecian past lives
Great I forgot that name. Autocorrect overcorrected
@@MagdaleneDivine what made u "mantis"
that?
Wait, "Mysterious Ancient Sea People" attacking multiple cultures? WTF??
Phoenicians
BC. not bce. Greece is a Christian nation. Atheists are a minority there.
You forgot the Greeks discovered America 😮 in 2000 BC
I appreciate free history content as much as the next nerd, but you guys play a little fast and loose with your facts for my tastes.
Honestly, you’re a history channel that consistently gets basic facts wrong.
Real History at ΑΝΙΟΧΤΗ ΑΚΑΔΗΜΙΑ ΜΙΝΩΙΚΩΝ ΜΕΛΕΤΩΝ UA-cam as far as language, alphabets, and e c t ,the writing methods, witch city states used the same system, and time period . Hieroglyphs, Linear A
Good but many things missing here!
Modern albanians are Dagestanis Egyptians East Asians race and RNA. Whoever said Alexander the boxhead or Alexander the Baba Hoxa?🤣🤣🤣