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  • @loveandjoy810
    @loveandjoy810 2 місяці тому +1100

    I had a defining moment in my marriage. I drove my husbands car and scratched it. Not even a big scratch, but when he saw it he got really mad. He shouted, “Can you pay to have my car fixed? “I was still a college student and we had 2 kids at the time. I don’t have a lot of money. So I couldn’t fix the scratch, he said. All you’ll do is say you’re sorry. It made me realize the only thing my husband respects is money. So I finished school. I got a good paying job and started stacking up cash. We have 1 joint account but keep most finances separate. Once he realized I had high 5 figures in my savings, things changed and he never pulled that shit again. He knows I can walk away easily and be just fine. AND I told him he can have 100% custody of the kids and I’ll pay child support. I’ll make a list of their allergies doctors appointments extra curricular and teachers names. Nothing terrifies a man more than having to step in and do what I do every damn day all while working a full time job.

    • @MayaR-gk3oq
      @MayaR-gk3oq 2 місяці тому +105

      Boss move

    • @rebeccagypsysol
      @rebeccagypsysol 2 місяці тому

      Ohmygod get a divorce🫣

    • @VeeKayGreenerGrass
      @VeeKayGreenerGrass 2 місяці тому +40

      Good for you.

    • @daisiesx96
      @daisiesx96 2 місяці тому +240

      Stay at home mom/wife set up only works well with certain men tbh. There’s some men out there that are too stupid to realize all the stuff their partner does on a daily basis.

    • @bertinasalcedoramos8302
      @bertinasalcedoramos8302 2 місяці тому +16

      ❤ Boss

  • @selkarogers7662
    @selkarogers7662 Місяць тому +282

    When my Grandmothers talk to me about what life was like to be a woman as a 50's, 60's 70's house wife (in Canada) they despised it. The men in their lives were awful and they just had to suffer through the disrespect. They were essentially enslaved by their husbands and then told by society that they should be grateful because they're living the dream and that they had a "good man". My grandmas also had to work cash jobs like working in tobacco in the summertime and cleaning wealthy people's homes to have any money of their own because their husbands would only pay for the absolute bare minimum to keep a household running and half the time women would have to plead their case as to why the family needed certain things. This was more the norm for the time than the exception. Whoever is romanticizing those eras are clearly generations that had no idea what it was actually like to be a woman in those times.

    • @4lb280
      @4lb280 Місяць тому +25

      100% Luckily, we have choices now and don't have to settle. These 'tradwives" are so phony in these videos & don't have a clue. People in general are so fake these days. It's hard to watch any of it anymore. . I don't do social media but have been hitting the youtube pretty hard lately. I can feel myself getting less happy and more irritated with every hour. I think it's time to unplug after this video.

    • @heidibear44
      @heidibear44 Місяць тому +18

      My granny had the same experience. When my grandad died she spent a whole decade spending all his money on herself.

    • @schoolsucks782
      @schoolsucks782 Місяць тому +6

      It happens till these days in many places , where I live ( India)

    • @Goldzwiebel
      @Goldzwiebel Місяць тому +3

      so true! and this cycle continues to this day. The father has a big, expensive dinner every day with lots of meat, has a new car and immaculate clothes. But his son runs around with broken shoes and has no school materials. When the son grows up, he often does the same thing because he finally wants to have the good life he never had. He never knew respect for children and a woman. He never thought about the fact that it was bad to only give the children pasta to eat and so on. for him it is normal.

    • @realretta
      @realretta 23 дні тому +1

      My grandmothers had different lives. They worked very, very hard. Their husbands did also.

  • @Yeyho09
    @Yeyho09 3 місяці тому +588

    It’s the cultural pendulum swing from one extreme to the other. Like a reoccurring pattern in pop culture trends. Most of us tend to live somewhere in the healthy medium.

    • @sarahunt8795
      @sarahunt8795 3 місяці тому +39

      Yes! This! It’s all about trends and rarely deeper than that. I think the girl boss capitalism trend became saturated. So now we’re doing the opposite.

    • @sararichardson737
      @sararichardson737 2 місяці тому +2

      @@sarahunt8795as lemmings a-leaping off the cliff!

    • @brat7776
      @brat7776 2 місяці тому +1

      Interesting

    • @normandy2501
      @normandy2501 Місяць тому +13

      The healthy medium doesn't get clicks though. Hate watchers alone are a bag. Add positive supporters, a few relatively popular video essayists and media critics, you'll end up with a feedback loop of extremes to one end or another.

    • @amykoch8823
      @amykoch8823 Місяць тому +8

      It's also a generation benefitting from the work of those that came before it unable to see how they've benefitted. It's like people in the 2000s and 2010s not vaccinating their kids because they didn't know anyone with measles but they did know kids who were autistic. Then after being essentially eradicated, there was a measles outbreak in 2018 due to the reduced vaccinations. There is similarly faulty thinking behind the trad mom movement and sooooo much of it has to do with these young women having benefitted from growing up with the changes several waves of feminism have made.

  • @Mrs_Beanbag
    @Mrs_Beanbag 2 місяці тому +720

    Being a Tradwife/Stay at home Mom can burn you out just as much as being a Girl Boss 😂

    • @sreyanandhini3944
      @sreyanandhini3944 2 місяці тому

      Trad wife can burn more than girl boss lol being trad wife is 24 hour job ..

    • @whitneyanders5945
      @whitneyanders5945 2 місяці тому +83

      Indeed. Back in the 50s to the 70s trad wives were medicating with bex and getting high as kites just to get through another day. Kidney disease sky rocketed due to all the housewives getting wasted.

    • @Mrs_Beanbag
      @Mrs_Beanbag 2 місяці тому +36

      @@whitneyanders5945 isn't that exactly what the Rolling Stones Song "Mommys little helper" is about?

    • @robinn2013
      @robinn2013 2 місяці тому +39

      Underrated comment. Both are jobs

    • @voodooprincess11
      @voodooprincess11 2 місяці тому +31

      For sure. I've done both. You have to manage your time and your expectations well to avoid this burnout in both types of lifestyle.

  • @ourportuguesehomestead
    @ourportuguesehomestead 3 місяці тому +1157

    We're not going to talk about the elephant in the room, men not stepping up to share household duties?

    • @Clara-td9ob
      @Clara-td9ob 3 місяці тому +55

      🔥🔥🔥

    • @elizabethh7711
      @elizabethh7711 3 місяці тому +25

      Yes!

    • @risingstill486
      @risingstill486 3 місяці тому +132

      Exactly! If we both pay bills we should also both do house chores.The home is a work place. We are co workers in this workplace. Don't get me started on men weaponizing incompetence. "I don't know how..." Most men can't pay all the bills on their own but want the house kept. Women work and... Men should be able to work and too.

    • @hospitalfood6621
      @hospitalfood6621 2 місяці тому +81

      Exactly! If i am paying half the bills and working just as much, why cant my husband help with chores once we get home from work? This is why women are burnt out. You cant do it all. And men know, this but they want to be lazy and not do their share at home but they are very happy to take half your paycheck.

    • @bushra2179
      @bushra2179 2 місяці тому +51

      Fr women went into the workplace and found they still had to the large majority of housework and childcare. If you're getting burned out doing that then when the other shoe drops somethings gona give. The choice is paying more for childcare and housework and going all in at work to pay for it or staying home full time. And because it's cost of living has gone up so much it's more sustainable to do the former. The problem here is men are not stepping up enough within the household

  • @Ella_Vande
    @Ella_Vande 2 місяці тому +360

    Personally, the terms “girl boss” and “boss babe” have always sounded incredibly condescending to me. Like boss lite. Not an actual boss, just the person we keep around and let them think they’re in charge.

    • @carlafuqua1685
      @carlafuqua1685 2 місяці тому +38

      imagine "boy boss"

    • @dionnest
      @dionnest Місяць тому +2

      Exactly!

    • @claireblackall8848
      @claireblackall8848 Місяць тому +15

      Absolutely, the fact that a women would need to clarify she is a "girlboss" "bossbabe" etc means that the default "boss" is male. Sooo perpetuating stereotypes??

    • @audrey7650
      @audrey7650 Місяць тому

      Yes! Reminds me of “HBIC”.. Head B**** In Charge. The one that thinks she’s got it, but everyone is waiting to see her downfall. Not good vibes lol.

    • @simonanardi4312
      @simonanardi4312 Місяць тому

      I love the boss “light” concept!! Where can I find more on this topic??

  • @Just-Nikki
    @Just-Nikki 2 місяці тому +395

    I’m a homesteader and homemaker. I’m 50, it’s not an aesthetic for me, it’s what brings me joy but tbc, I handle the finances, our schedules, grow food, preserve it, tend to animals, make our medicine and delegate responsibilities to my family, including my husband. I respect him and of course we make important decisions together but managing the household means at home, I’m running the show and that’s fine by him. He works hard to provide for us and I wouldn’t want his job nor would I assume to try and run the show at his job. We are partners with our own set of responsibilities and skill sets that bring balance to our relationship and complement each others strengths.

    • @VeeKayGreenerGrass
      @VeeKayGreenerGrass 2 місяці тому

      Sounds good for you.
      It only helps if he views it as an interdependence. That's what's natural for women.
      Men tend to turn relationships into codependencies and want as to turn codependent with them, while they wield economic power over us.

    • @ForeverSwinging
      @ForeverSwinging 2 місяці тому +38

      That’s the rub, though. You wouldn’t be considered traditional because your husband answers to you. You’re in charge, not him. It makes a lot of sense because of set up you described, but that’s not what the tradwife influencer inspires to.

    • @nolegirl4god
      @nolegirl4god 2 місяці тому +21

      I love that you shared some of the positives. ❤

    • @Just-Nikki
      @Just-Nikki 2 місяці тому +71

      @@ForeverSwinging that’s funny to me because I assume they are basing their idea of “ traditional “ on tv shows. The reality is my lifestyle is more historically accurate. Women ran the household and the men provided for the household. Most men don’t want to carry that weight entirely on their shoulders and most women don’t want to be Stepford wives. There has to be balance or someone is going to be resentful in the long run but I’m not sure women doing it to influence or for the aesthetic are thinking that far ahead.

    • @Just-Nikki
      @Just-Nikki 2 місяці тому +4

      @@nolegirl4god thank you.

  • @paigedement3020
    @paigedement3020 3 місяці тому +416

    After watching the whole video, I wanted to say thank you for the nonjudgmental tone and word choices you made throughout the entire essay! As a mom of two littles who works 3 days a week outside of the home, I get condescending remarks on both sides. Growing up in a culture that tries to pit women against each other, this video was very refreshing!

    • @nym2201
      @nym2201 2 місяці тому +13

      There is no winning, you just do what feels right for you and your family. I WISH I could work just 3 days a week, but im still hopeful that in the future things change.

    • @paigedement3020
      @paigedement3020 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the encouragement! At the end of the day, I feel extremely lucky with the balance. 3 days is so good for my mental health.@@nym2201

    • @PB_324
      @PB_324 2 місяці тому +14

      I'm SOOO sick of the " mommy wars"
      Men seem to encourage this nonsense as well and its time we stopped feeding them.

    • @bleach2393
      @bleach2393 2 місяці тому +7

      Working 3 days a week while having 2 little kids is tough work. You're doing great mom. I hope you keep doing what works for you and your family !

    • @user-or2vq1vq9w
      @user-or2vq1vq9w 2 місяці тому +10

      I'm a father and I wish I could work 3 days a week, I rather spend more time with my daughter, watch her grow up but money doesn't grow on tree

  • @justwonder1404
    @justwonder1404 2 місяці тому +74

    My problem with tradwives will always be what you articulated: they're selling a brand, not reality. If a tiktok star's marriage falls apart, she will use her experience and platform to provide for herself and her kids. An impressionable high schooler who listens to her may not have that option. But there's nothing wrong with being a homemaker in and of itself. It's just not represented correctly in a tradwife trend.

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 2 місяці тому +2

      Yah my mom was a freelance journalist after she left her full time journalist career to stay home after my little sister was born (vs I went to daycare lol but I got better socialized than she did HA). Then mom pivoted to grant writing for nonprofits when my sister went to school. Always have options.

    • @11nica5
      @11nica5 Місяць тому

      That’s a character flaw of the individual nothing to do with the SAHM role.

  • @sfoanna
    @sfoanna 2 місяці тому +135

    For so many women the question of whether to stay home and take care of their children or work is not a choice. I have a family history that goes back generations of women being forced to work because the man lost his job, committed murder and went to jail, abandoned their families, cheated and created a second family, disabled and couldn’t work, died or became disabled in war, etc. For the latter cases, the men felt the psychological weight of not being able to be the sole “provider” like a man is expected to be and they suffered with depression (and for the other cases, for those who say “choose better” the murderer was one of the most upstanding members and leaders of his community and was able to use his influence to eventually get a pardon from the governor so good luck predicting who will end up doing something like that).
    Going back in history so many women who weren’t in upper and what constituted middle classes of the time were compelled to work out of economic necessity. And there was a time where the economic output of the family was entirely or almost entirely centered on their homes. Leaving the home to work wasn’t even a concept for a lot of people - everyone in the family did backbreaking labor all day so they’d have enough to eat. And maybe do piecework at night for extra money. Clothing and textiles constituted an enormous portion of a household budget equivalent to a car or even a college education today so making clothes at home was a necessity. Everyone’s economic relationship to home-based labor was very different and often necessitated additional outside help in the form of domestic labor (paid or not paid). Some of the trad wife content comes off as cosplaying. And they don’t bring up the fact that influencing is a job. People trying to mimic their lifestyle without having their platform and without their extra money may find that they won’t see the same results.

    • @4imee198
      @4imee198 2 місяці тому

      I appreciate this comment, the housewive 50s aesthetic is MODERN. Capitalism (before it died) brought that luxury. Previously of course woman worked, but not in the same way man did. To this day in my country there are man miners and their woman work with them too, BUT not on the mines, they never did. They work outside selecting the metals. Same way woman always worked but not competing directly with man, and I'm not a 22 year snob who think she knows it all so I don't know if there was another point in history where woman compete with man, in man's games with man's rules.
      But I know in modern days that's what we were taught to do, compete compete compete, we don't know another way. From the moment we born we are just a number, we follow broken systems and shut up. It's truly bread and circus, performative political fight, polarization, etc.
      Is there a better way? I mean we used to belong and have large families, most important be self sufficient and interdependent, and all that we have now is state dependency, chains, I mean phones and we belong to a discord group yippie!
      This is where feminism will blame pathiarchy but a real male dominant society wouldn't have allowed this mistreatment of the most vulnerable, woman and children. Is a poster "patriarcal" society we live in, feminism was key to put those physchos in power (the russian revolution was led by woman not proletarian man) and to this day we're taught to hate the idea of a loving selfless man that is gonna take care of us, and embrace the corporative coldness of a job that will discard you after using you, just like Joe from Tinder after he cums.
      Sick.
      Sisters, we can do better, we should.

    • @kittimcconnell2633
      @kittimcconnell2633 Місяць тому +6

      "Some of the trad wife content comes off as cosplaying" great point! I agree, especially with the influencers who make money with their 'trad" content. No traditional wife in history made a living by presenting her life via the internet, or even on historical forms of media. Writers did, actresses did, models did, but that immediately breaks out of the "traditional" definition.

    • @amarugo4224
      @amarugo4224 Місяць тому

      This is a very brilliant take. I didn't initially consider the angle of the cos playing concept

  • @JemimaDoesASMR
    @JemimaDoesASMR 3 місяці тому +309

    Some of the biggest things that frustrate me about the growing tradwife ‘movement’ are things you touched on in this video. It’s ultimately just any other aesthetic - ALL influencer content, especially the stuff that gets popular, isn’t normal! These women might often be genuine and sincerely living that lifestyle, but notice that most of these tradwife influencers are (just like most influencers in general) very pretty, usually white, with great hair and a pleasant voice? Their videos are well-lit and show them being happy baking bread or vacuuming their (already clean) floor. They don’t show the average woman’s reality of homemaking - wearing comfy clothes, minimal makeup, hair up in a comfortable practical style, grumbling in frustration because the oven’s doing that thing again and she forgot to put the clothes on to wash. These influencers make videos that are pleasant to watch, and rarely show a realistic depiction of the ups and downs of any lifestyle, much less a job being done imperfectly or without a metric tonne of grace. It’s the same problem, where women are expected to do whatever job it is perfectly and with humility and grace, but with a different coat of paint.
    The other thing, which I know has been talked about to death, is that they’re rarely “traditional” things. At its core, yes it’s women taking care of the home, but I think a lot of the tradwife influencers would be shocked to know that for most of recorded history, WOMEN were the people who managed the accounts and finances for the household. Far cry from not needing to worry about complicated things like money and budgeting, lol.

    • @Clara-td9ob
      @Clara-td9ob 3 місяці тому +10

      So well put!

    • @sls4170
      @sls4170 2 місяці тому +17

      Say more! Don’t just stop there 😂 I love how you spoke with a deeper approach.

    • @samandfee
      @samandfee 2 місяці тому +7

      So true! Thank you.

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 2 місяці тому +50

      Not only that but only wealthy women had to only manage the household. Poor women always have and always will work. They never had the option not to.

    • @Truenorth747
      @Truenorth747 2 місяці тому +24

      The greatest scam is that those women are business owners. Nothing trad about that. But people swallow that .

  • @anasotoco
    @anasotoco 3 місяці тому +442

    Something that no one talks about is that there are safety measures like life insurance and a spousal IRA in case something does happen to your spouse

    • @EMBERSASH
      @EMBERSASH  3 місяці тому +45

      True!

    • @gokatie42
      @gokatie42 3 місяці тому +53

      this is what i thought of watching the video! life insurance will literally buy some time in case something happened. of course, we hope it doesn’t but it’s there as a backup.

    • @mandi3891
      @mandi3891 3 місяці тому +60

      ​Sadly it's often not enough. My partner has a life insurance, it just covers his half of our mortage. I didn't even get a life insurance because I've had a weightloss surgery. If one of us dies, the other one is basically forced to move out of our home despite us both working.

    • @anasotoco
      @anasotoco 3 місяці тому

      ​@@mandi3891 unfortunately thats true for many people. My husband being in the military taught us that everyone in the home should have life insurance. You should definitely consider getting life insurance for yourself and if possible a higher policy.

    • @nriamond8010
      @nriamond8010 3 місяці тому +68

      I don't know if this is even enough, but it is really important to not rely completely on the partner. My grandfather died at age 34 (by an accident) and my grandmother suddenly was alone with two little children and a half-built house in after-war Germany. She made it but it wasn't fun, and at least she had a job. And I know several women who became widows at a young age relatively shortly after the wedding. All are working and none of them has children, but life can take a very unexpected turn very suddenly.

  • @komalparmarify
    @komalparmarify 2 місяці тому +164

    Somebody in the video is saying that- you are a mom, you are raising a human and that’s the most important job in the world.
    Why is the father being excluded from this most important role in the world!

    • @silververnallbells191
      @silververnallbells191 2 місяці тому

      Bcuz mostly men don't participate in fatherhood. They're too lazy and uncaring. Very few men are actually active fathers.

    • @realretta
      @realretta Місяць тому +7

      Because the vid is about women?

    • @marishapeters1647
      @marishapeters1647 Місяць тому +13

      Because who takes care of the baby the first few months of life? It biologically makes sense. You birthed the baby, you breastfeed the baby, the baby has an emotional connection to you. They need the mom more than the dad as a baby. Nobody said the dad wasn’t around ever but someone has to work and someone has to take care of children and biologically women are better suited for it

    • @CitySlickerButtKicker
      @CitySlickerButtKicker Місяць тому +9

      ​@@marishapeters1647Thats the first few months, but dads are still excluded or not involved when the kids are older. Fathers actually has a greater impact on childrens mental and emotional well being than moms.

    • @bobalooloo02
      @bobalooloo02 Місяць тому

      because raising a human isn't the most important job in the world. Idiots do it every day

  • @tinabecker1313
    @tinabecker1313 3 місяці тому +82

    Side note: Éowyn is a strong female character in LOTR who I’ve always found inspiring to fight for what I want in life! She goes to war to fight for those she loves and is just as brave if not more brave than some of the male protagonists.

    • @racheloftheprairie7722
      @racheloftheprairie7722 3 місяці тому +22

      I was thinking the same thing. I would classify Arwen as strong in her own way too. It's not easy to choose to stick behind when your family is all leaving for the undying lands or to take on a group of wraiths to save Frodo.

    • @11nica5
      @11nica5 Місяць тому +3

      Those are still male attributes and not feminine. The ultimate power lies in the Oracles and Alchemists and those are female traits where we use our minds, hearts, intuition to tap into everything that is the universe. We NEVER have to pick up a sword or ever go to war. Ever! In ancient theology the most feared warrior confided in the wisdom of the oracles and alchemists.

    • @CitySlickerButtKicker
      @CitySlickerButtKicker Місяць тому +2

      ​@@11nica5Not every feminine is an oracle, but lots of villages that were attacked, the helpless women were raped and killed, so were their children. They wouldnt dare do this to the Spartan village where the women knew how to fight. A real man who is secure in his manliness isnt afraid of a women who helps him in defense because at least he knows that if anything happens to him, he can rest assure his wife will care for his children long after he is gone. When a man and women marry, they become one flesh so what does that mean? People like to throw that scripture around and not truly understand what that entails. When man and women become one flesh, they understand each other and they mold into one another not just spiritually, but also mentally. Husbands are not arrogant enough to think housechores is only for feminine and women are not squeamish enough not to learn home self defense typically a male domain. They share qualities that makes them be a one parent team so they are both providers, protectors, and nurturers. Because God created man and woman in His image, parents represent the duo of disciplinary and merciful figure of God... if one leaves the earth, the other was molded enough from the deceased to be 2 in one!

    • @your_mom_is_my_dad
      @your_mom_is_my_dad 23 дні тому

      ​@@11nica5 I understood it more like this, fighting for something you love can also be a feminine trait, making it a neutral trait. Like women fighting for their children to have the best possible life. I think it's rather about protecting something you love, something I wouldn't contribute more to men than to women. And I would say women are also brave for giving up big part of their identity as an individuum to become a mother with a second individuum constantly by her side, and conforming to the expectations people have for women, is also brave. I agree, mental power is underrated in our society in general, but I also think physically many women can do more than they maybe think of themselves. I mean, having to carry a baby and doing household chores also requires a lot of physical strength. And those are just the clichés. Having practiced Karate for several years and regularly helping my partner with bodily work, I am amazed at what our bodies can do. I mean traditionally these traits are rather seen as masculine, but there were a lot of cultures where women also were warriors and I don't think people back than asked themselves if this watch the feminine thing for a woman to do, but maybe to get another capable force to defend the village. Idk, just my thoughts, it all boils down to the person in the end. I have a female friend who can arm wrestle a lot of guys my age, I also know some who cannot hold themselves up for 5 seconds on a bar.

  • @carlasamuels479
    @carlasamuels479 2 місяці тому +31

    Im glad i was not influenced by social media / friends/ family ...when i was 39 i had unplanned twins pregnancy was quite awful & high risk for early labour had to stop work at 6 months ...i was an ICU nurse at the time ...the twins had issues awful colic, excems , one had lung issues ...i was so drained by the time mat leave was over i quit ti be a SAHM & made all the financisl sacrifices to do so ....15 years later im looking forward to restarting career but i now have breast cancer ....im so grateful i had that time as a SAHM it was priceless !! Now im totally at peace with whatever cancer deals me , i spent the past 15 years in the best way for me

    • @SarawithnH
      @SarawithnH Місяць тому +6

      Sending healing prayers and healing hugs.

    • @lilianab4756
      @lilianab4756 10 днів тому

      Sending healing prayers ❤ 🙏

    • @carlasamuels479
      @carlasamuels479 9 днів тому

      @@SarawithnH 🙏Thanks so much !

    • @carlasamuels479
      @carlasamuels479 9 днів тому

      @@lilianab4756 🙏Thanks so much!

  • @aliciamartin6399
    @aliciamartin6399 3 місяці тому +42

    "Trad wife" for 32 years. (I'm 53) I wear yoga pants and tee shirts, hair in a messy bun most of the time. I do cook from scratch and bake but we also LOVE take out. I don't wear make up or aprons. But, I don't judge those who do. I just keep a really good stain spray on hand for my clothes😊 Social media influencers are really capitalizing on an aesthetic. Life is real and everything is not perfect and calm all the time. I bet they are making sweet money promoting this lifestyle though. Its the best of both worlds...girl boss and trad wife all in one. 🌹

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому +12

      No it’s not. By making social media content they are working so they aren’t trad wives, and most of them do not act the way they do on camera when they are off camera. It’s an act to get money. They are girl bosses at the end of the day, and this is their hustle.

    • @mmestevezc
      @mmestevezc Місяць тому +1

      AMEN!

  • @user-rc2yf8kt7i
    @user-rc2yf8kt7i 2 місяці тому +119

    That hustle culture is really toxic. I'm zillennial on the border of both and got the worst of that 9-5 bs. Jobs are not rewarding anymore..every employer is out to take advantage of you with low pay no stability temp jobs with no benefits replacing entire formerly white collar industries, so you go to college and into debt, do everything right, live like a pauper and deprive yourself, try to enter the job market, and get stonewalled with "temp jobs" where you work for a company for 6 months or so, do everything a real employee does, get 2/3 of their pay and 0 of their benefits, then get thrown on your ass before they are forced to pay you like a real employee. It's evil. Being a "contractor" is a trap, it's just a scheme for companies to not pay you the benefits you deserve like PTO. I get why people are getting fed up and looking elsewhere but tradwifery is a pipeline to poverty. And let me tell you that misogyny and gender discrimination is alive and well. If you're in an interview, a male candidate is BELIEVED and thought of as confident and smart, but a woman candidate is given disbelief and the spanish inquisition. Even if you do get the job you are paid less and might lose the job if someone decides to s!xually harass you. Just like in school zero tolerance, they punish the victim. The american corporate culture is nasty and vile.
    The answer isn't tradwifery--the answer is labor laws. Europe has it figured out. They get 35 hour workweeks, 5 weeks of PTO, and a job for life. They also have EASIER, SHORTER interviews, not this bs with 5+ interviews being put under a microscope and grilled for even shitty entry level jobs. I'm sick of it. LABOR LAWS. And gen X are just as bad as boomers in the workplace, if not worse.
    Tradwives have a grain of truth--they realize modern life is too stressful and our quality of life is garbage. But the issue is you can't trust men. The types of men who want tradwives are the types to either abuse you or divorce you for a younger woman and leave you high and dry toting around his kids with no career and no money. Tradwifery doesn't work because men are not held accountable by society. A man can ruin your life and still be welcomed with open arms by society no matter how deplorable his actions are.

    • @RJones-tn5vg
      @RJones-tn5vg 2 місяці тому +18

      I agree with everything you said here. I'm Xennial and older than you are, but I agree wholeheartedly that men have easier interviews, women face retaliation for reporting harassment, and gen X has a lot of workaholics who have no soul left.
      And I am very lucky that I came into adulthood when interest rates were low. If I had been born any later, I would have been in debt forever.
      I just wonder how long this will go on before a revolution happens. When are we really going to "eat the rich"?

    • @frozenheart7133
      @frozenheart7133 2 місяці тому

      ​@@RJones-tn5vgIt'll happen when they take food stamps for oil subsidies or bombs, hopefully before.

    • @lnsuvasquez2466
      @lnsuvasquez2466 2 місяці тому +10

      Kinda a mean girl perspective on life and you assume your experience is true for all. My beloved late husband gave me the opportunity to that trad wife. I got to care for my elder father in law. I got to work in prison ministry with my husband all while not wondering how to feed the family and best of all my son got to experience a loving dad. Because his bio dad left us to chase drugs and skirts. I also had a flex schedule while I worked that corporate job and a single parent. Just Imagine if I put my experience as the truth for everyone in a post how roasted I would be.

    • @crem9607
      @crem9607 2 місяці тому

      @@lnsuvasquez2466 So you're saying 'Not everyone's experience is like that' (alluding to the part where men can't be trusted) and then in the same breath you state something in your own life that exemplifies exactly what @user-rc2yf8kt7i is talking about: "his bio dad left us to chase drugs and skirts?"
      I'm not sure this is the rebuttal you think it is....

    • @Li_Tobler
      @Li_Tobler 2 місяці тому

      @@lnsuvasquez2466 you got really lucky with him, unfortunately men like him are quite a rare treasure

  • @Evridikibio1
    @Evridikibio1 2 місяці тому +39

    In Greek we have a phrase "Learn a skill and leave it, and if you go hungry pick it up" . In Greek it rhymes.

  • @oliviarinck5886
    @oliviarinck5886 3 місяці тому +60

    So I feel like there is really such a difference between "Little House on The Prarie" and "50's Housewife" vibes when it comes to the structure of a family. And I think it's also something that a lot of conservatives today get wrong. I think if we look back to something like the Little House on the prairie or Parenthood back in the days of like westward expansion there wasn't like a breadwinner per se and the mother wasn't seen as solely there to cater to her husband. Sure mother and father had different chores but they played together as a team and had their own strengths. There was mutual respect for the two roles. Now maybe this wasnt exactly how it was at this point in history in every case, but if we're looking at the books at least and that model that people are looking up to, ma and pa worked together to build a homestead and keep their children alive. Pa was at home working and every bit involved with his children as ma was. The 50's american housewife thing, is so different. Dad leaves the house to work, mom is at home being the sole caretaker for everyone in the home and pretending everything was ok to not burden dad with anything home related. There's no teamwork there. I think one of the biggest difference here is the father working outside of the home vs the father working at home to keep the home functioning. Those are veryyyyy different roles and I think that changes marital and family dynamics significantly.

    • @kandacewalker848
      @kandacewalker848 2 місяці тому +6

      This is an AMAZING point

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому +8

      I disagree of the respect part. In several of the books it’s made clear that women were unequal and even beneath men, but Pa in particular respected Ma because she was a good wife and mother, and Ma respected Pa because he was a good husband and father. I’d say Little House on the Prairie was a more positive depiction of what life on the prairie was like because there are other portrayals and historical accounts of this time period and they were not usually this nice. Abuse and confining women to gender roles was prime during this period as the town folk liked to talk about anyone that deviated from the norm. Especially women.

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 2 місяці тому +2

      Historically, most women have always worked in some capacity in and out of the home, unpaid labor and paid labor. Think maidservants in castles. Those are women who are working. Even the Bible had depictions of the entrepreneurial wife making things and selling them at market.

    • @marishapeters1647
      @marishapeters1647 Місяць тому

      but also in little house on the prairie times women had to be home because they didn’t have machines to do anything for them like we do now. Even men who didn’t farm they had their work and women had theirs.
      I think the feminist movement was needed, yes, men weren’t respecting women properly, and now I think today men are realizing, whether they want to admit it or not, the value of having their wives at home

    • @gemmasmit3577
      @gemmasmit3577 Місяць тому +1

      Also 50’s housewives were high as kites on meds or alcoholics and if not then getting lobotomies.

  • @Ksenia584
    @Ksenia584 3 місяці тому +92

    I think a part you didn’t mention is the pandemic forced a lot of women to become stay at home moms because of lack of high quality childcare and lack of maternity leave. I left the workforce during the pandemic when my daughter was born.

    • @whitneyanders5945
      @whitneyanders5945 2 місяці тому +9

      Are you American? If so, that’s a real shame you had to leave the workforce. In Australia, that doesn’t happen. It is rare for women to have to forsake a career or job to raise kids. The Government pays maternity leave for five months and many people also get six or more months at full pay on top of that. For some, it works out at nearly a full year off fully paid. My workplace also supplements childcare fees for staff. The Government also subsidises child care costs so families don’t have to pay half their salary just to childcare.

    • @leza4453
      @leza4453 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, for real, women in the US should stand up to their politicians and demand what is common today in first world countries. It seems like they are second class citizens, just because they have a womb.

    • @jessielynn
      @jessielynn 2 місяці тому +2

      Same!

    • @crem9607
      @crem9607 2 місяці тому +3

      ☝This.
      I wasn't forced to leave the workforce during the pandemic but I know a TON of women that were due to circumstances involving children (& none of it was voluntary for them). The ones amongst them who've seen & talked about the whole tradwife/cottage core BS are largely of the opinion that the whole tradwife thing is an exploitative coping mechanism. Tradwife influencers are pandering towards all those moms who were forced to stay at home during the pandemic (& adopt the lifestyle), romanticizing the idea & giving them false hope that it's ideal & that it'll work out for them. Pretty twisted when you think about it. Most of said women are looking for ways to get back into the workforce if they haven't already.

    • @realretta
      @realretta Місяць тому +2

      @@crem9607 I see a lot of the same from the "Girl Boss" perspective. Each side glamourizes its own.

  • @Zhadyre
    @Zhadyre 3 місяці тому +149

    Anybody else curious what the next trend and 'aesthetic' is going to be after the tradwife and homemaker fizzles out in another 5-10 years? 🙃

    • @ReneeDeane
      @ReneeDeane 2 місяці тому +31

      4b movement in korea

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому +31

      The mob wife aesthetic came out right after.

    • @radioserrelind
      @radioserrelind 2 місяці тому +5

      @@ReneeDeaneI am already right there with it

    • @AngiDas
      @AngiDas 2 місяці тому

      Well, if people don’t get out and vote for the Democrats, and I know not, everybody likes that option, but the other option is Republicans will force the trad wife lifestyle on women so get out there and vote.

    • @DinaStrange
      @DinaStrange 2 місяці тому +12

      Alien mom? AI mom?

  • @kianasealy3509
    @kianasealy3509 3 місяці тому +133

    I think the issue with both of these movements is that (when it comes to raising kids) we are so focused on the responsibilities of the mother and paying little attention to her support system. Even if you’re a trad wife, most/all of the childcare is on you and I don’t believe that’s healthy. It takes a village. The truth is our society doesn’t value women’s contributions in the home and doesn’t value the proper care of children which is why women go between these extremes of being a “girl boss” and feeling guilty about not being with your kids or being a “trad wife” and only focusing on raising kids. We need better resources for women and families so that doing both is more manageable. Also, what have the men been doing this whole time? 😅
    Either way, idealizing a life where you have little interaction with society and little contribution to it, all while being financially dependent on someone else, seems risky and I agree with you that trad wife influencers need to be more honest about that.

    • @ReneeDeane
      @ReneeDeane 2 місяці тому +2

      The village is the husband for 75 to 90 % of the work.

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому +18

      @@ReneeDeane The village are other women because women know their husband won’t step up to the plate and raise the family.

    • @VeeKayGreenerGrass
      @VeeKayGreenerGrass 2 місяці тому

      Infact, the rise in female suicide is directly linked to lack of support and isolation of women from our interdependent set up with other women.
      While men are unable to give each other community, and need a woman to form their community for them, which leads to their loneliness and suicide.

    • @skillbopster
      @skillbopster 2 місяці тому

      It is in a womans biology to take care of kids. Women are better nurturers.

    • @emilyann4549
      @emilyann4549 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@ReneeDeane since when did a village ever consist of 2 people? A village is husband, grandma, aunt, uncle, cousins, etc. It's not just house holds that are broken, it's extended families as well.

  • @k-macky1933
    @k-macky1933 3 місяці тому +183

    The clip of the guy getting all fired up about how women’s most important job is rocking the cradle is SCARY

    • @samanthaheins7711
      @samanthaheins7711 3 місяці тому +66

      Agreed - he said “how important it is for women to JUST rock a cradle”… so he’s demeaning the work of the mother/woman while simultaneously telling us where we belong. We’ve been in that position for all of history, my man, and a lot of us are pretty annoyed with that setup.

    • @kimbolinarino9
      @kimbolinarino9 2 місяці тому +20

      Dude, whatever. I've busted my ass in a saw mill right next to men and I am really happy to hear this man being very passionate about how much more extremely difficult it is to rear a child than hold a job. Being a mom is the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life. There are no smoke breaks. There is no clocking out. It's forever all the time every single day. We need men to understand that and make that plain to other men. It's hard. It's very hard. And it is the most important thing I will ever do. I am raising human beings. Granted, I also had an established career prior to having children. I had my first child at the age of 27. I had already had my own apartment, car, savings, education, skills and certification, and 10 years of solid work experience.
      The lesson here is, don't have kids and get married at 17. It makes life so much harder than it needs to be. Your kids only need you home full time until they are school aged. That's a few years. It's just a couple years. And the skills of homemaking are important. The skills of fostering love and trust and partnership within your marriage is important. It's not a Christian idea.
      Do you have kids?????? Seriously? It's not one job. It's TEN THOUSAND JOBS AT ONCE. BRUH. I can't watch this video anymore it's ridiculous. Just stop tearing other women down it's gross.

    • @k-macky1933
      @k-macky1933 2 місяці тому +15

      @@kimbolinarino9 I feel like your reply to my comment isn’t really relating to my comment but I just wanted to say I hear you 100% - yes I have kids - yes the person who made this video has kids - yes I agree being a mom is the freaking hardest thing in the world. It’s all consuming. I feel you. I’m sorry if you’re having a hard time right now ❤️ (please know I’m being sincere here)

    • @Just-Nikki
      @Just-Nikki 2 місяці тому +10

      I think he chose one action as opposed to naming every and I think he meant “ just “ as in not trying to parent and work outside the home at the same time. He clearly respects what it means to be a homemaker and mother and believes asking women to bare the children and work outside the home is asking a lot, especially when we tend to still take on a great deal of the responsibilities of homemaking even when working outside the home. I could be wrong but that’s how I understood his comment.

    • @jz372
      @jz372 2 місяці тому

      He has a lot of red flags. Demanding for women to just do one thing and one thing only. How about him? Can he equally care for his children? Can he participate to half the chores? Or is that too hard? Men want to push women in the kitchen, dependant of them, because they refuse to take care of their own home and take care of their own children.

  • @relaunchinglife
    @relaunchinglife 2 місяці тому +12

    Why in the world do women think they must choose either of these 2 extremes? If social media & the internet have taught us anything it's that everyone can pursue and build the life they WANT. And then change their mind when they want to. That doesn't mean it's easy - but we are talking about our lives right?
    My husband & I started our business at 25 and owned it for 27 years for the sole purpose of having flexibility to raise our children. We took turns staying home with them for 10 years, And then took turns meeting the school bus for the next 10. We built the life we wanted.
    After the kids launched - we split up. Life is not a fairytale but you can create your own magic.

  • @aylamyers5851
    @aylamyers5851 2 місяці тому +77

    I had to pause to reply to the guy talking about undermining the importance of women in the household. It amazes me how they come to realization that women can't do it all and their only solution is that women stay in the home. It doesn't even occur to them that maybe men and women can split responsibilities equally at home and in the work force. No it is one way or the other.

    • @akamesb4540
      @akamesb4540 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, some of them take it as a gotcha moment or try to scare women into following something they arenr completely honest about, if is what they want being a trad wife or not, ok, but it tend to be the woman takes more roles while the other part is not asked to ajust.

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 2 місяці тому +3

      Yah my husband and I both clean around the house and both bring in income and both take care of the pets and would both care for kids, too. It’s a team effort!

    • @smania7575
      @smania7575 Місяць тому +1

      Neither can do it all. They aren't saying men shouldn't help. But, kids go to moms for nurturing and that's normal, so moms will be in high demand of the children. And after working all day, giving kids the attention/nurturing they desire, and any other tasks that need to be done, most women don't even want to find time for their husband's. And that's disrespectful and where many issues start. It's the same when the man doesn't want to find time to do any yard work and/or house work. That's disrespectful and starts issues too.
      But, what I see much too often is the man doing all the yard work (mowing, tree/busb trimming, sidewalk maintenance, etc), most of the snow removal (if not all), car maintenance, and sometimes more but the woman is complaining because the man isn't helping with inside the house or isn't doing enough "emotional labor" even though he listens to his wife's stories without complaint and sometimes even asks her questions to seem more engaged. Plus, men are more likely to do labor jobs than women and still don't complain about all the yard work or other things they have to manage at home.
      Men get shit on so often even when they do a ton of work for the family. It's women that seem to shit on the men too. If you think your husband isn't doing enough, then go to him and say you want to switch roles for 3 months. You do EVERYTHING he does for 3 months (besides his job that is) and he does EVERYTHING you do for 3 months (besides your job). Afterwards, you two can discuss the disparities in your workloads. But, ladies, be warned. The men might enjoy being the house work too much and want you to take on some of the more laborious work.

  • @mommybreakdown
    @mommybreakdown 3 місяці тому +47

    Ooo the connection to girl boss 🤔. I’m here for this timeline! I can’t wait for the movement of “do whatever works for you.” There are risks to every decision.
    So often we raise our kids to be what WE want instead of supporting their temperaments and strengths. I try to stay curious with my students (and my own kids), helping them to uncover what puts them in a “state of flow,” while also reminding them that cultures vary, what is “normal” or “right” is mostly garbage, and we are literally existing on a floating rock 😆.
    You do such a nice job of pulling resources. Great, thought-provoking content!

    • @jeanettekakareka
      @jeanettekakareka 3 місяці тому +8

      "Do whatever works for you" I think is the REAL cultural goal! That to me is the essence of feminism, but I'm not sure everyone always agrees. 😅

    • @mommybreakdown
      @mommybreakdown 3 місяці тому

      @@jeanettekakareka😆❤️

  • @ccandcoffee
    @ccandcoffee Місяць тому +6

    All of these trends are missing a key component….BALANCE. They always go from one extreme to the other. Young woman, get educated, go to school, give yourself the OPTION to have financial stability if need be. This does NOT mean you cannot choose to be a stay at home mother for your children in the future with your husband. Giving all of yourself to a job as a “girl boss” and giving all of your financial stability to your husband to become a “trad wife” is not your only option. Remember that nothing in life is stable, sometimes roles change. If your husband loses his job, you may have to step up and support the family. What you see on social media are not real, they are selling you a dream.

  • @seasonalliving2881
    @seasonalliving2881 2 місяці тому +122

    Sharing an honest thought for a moment. I was a stay at home, homeschooling mom for almost a decade (prior to covid) and ADORED it. I felt my most feminine and thought it was my God-given calling (still do). The sad reality came after my bread-winning husband abruptly left me for another woman and I was left to fend for myself. Not having worked for almost a decade left me scrambling and now I am back to work and grieve my old life daily. I don't care who tries to sell it, but single motherhood does not work as well as a solid, unbroken family does where the man and woman have traditional roles. I respect men who take care of their families and honor their vows and commitments. Unfortunately, I don't believe there are a lot of these men left.

    • @foofieviolet
      @foofieviolet 2 місяці тому +25

      I'm so sorry this happened to you and your children. I think what saddens me most is seeing young women think that by adopting a certain lifestyle they'll make themselves more attractive to men or be more likely to "keep their man" (that's what you hear a lot in tradwife circles). It isn't about finding fulfillment or for the love of their children, it really is a desperate attempt to be loved.
      And unfortunately we see that it doesn't guarantee love or loyalty. Men are allowed to get away with anything in this society and not lose their social standing, meanwhile single moms have no support and get shamed for the transgressions of men, blamed for their male partners "losing interest".
      I see a lot of women got disillusioned with the "girlboss" mindset of being in a competitive toxic workplace, dealing with the same workplace stresses men deal with plus forever having to work twice as hard to achieve half as much, usually for less pay. They realize financial independence is still a pipe dream in this economy even with a college degree, and it still certainly doesn't bring happiness or love. I think the tradwife movement is appealing because it promises love and happiness, at the cost of independence (which women found out is difficult to come by no matter how hard they try anyway).

    • @mariamountain6718
      @mariamountain6718 Місяць тому

      That's the exact reason why I won't have children.

    • @seasonalliving2881
      @seasonalliving2881 Місяць тому

      @@mariamountain6718 🩷

    • @CitySlickerButtKicker
      @CitySlickerButtKicker Місяць тому +1

      ​@@foofievioletCorrect! Its like they try hard to look good and be sweet all the time so the husband doesnt lose interest, because they subconsciously are afraid their husband may just be as disloyal as the next guy the tradwife critics warn them about. All this effort, aside from housework and childrearing, isnt just an endearment, its fear in the back of their minds that we are right.

    • @believestthouthis7
      @believestthouthis7 Місяць тому +5

      I am sorry that this happened to you and your children. There is always the risk of a spouse dying, becoming disabled or even sadly abandoning his family by choice. However, the only one who NEVER leaves us is the Lord! We can always trust Him 100%.
      Hebrews 13:5 KJV - Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
      Romans 8:37-39 KJV
      37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
      38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
      39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  • @michellegranger7166
    @michellegranger7166 3 місяці тому +48

    I've been a fan of your videos for a long time, but I've been loving the shift your channel is making. This is a fascinating look at the culture phenomenon we've experienced - and a really well done documentary on the subject. If you enjoy making these types of films I think you have a real knack for investigative storytelling in a casual/approachable way :)

  • @brooke9847
    @brooke9847 3 місяці тому +28

    I love being a mom to my one year old daughter but I don't think I would be as good as a mom if I wasn't also a career women. I am an engineer which took years of dedication and hard work which translates to what values I will teach my daughter. I miss out on hours in the day with my daughter but when I am with her I am able to enjoy every moment and pass along my love of learning to her. I struggled with PPD and I know with my personality I would struggle being a SAHM. I think the biggest issue is that we have to take finances into consideration when choosing whether or not to stay home with our children or to work. Even with insurance it cost us 15k just for me to have my daughter. Other countries don't seem to have this issue.

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 2 місяці тому +4

      Stats prove kids education is directly informed by the formal education of their mom. I’m a lawyer and I feel that… I don’t regret my education even IF I become a stay at home mom /part time entrepreneur. I challenged myself to my full intellectual potential through that and I think you did too as an engineer. It’s really cool! And we can always return to good careers when kids are grown or if our partners want to stay home with kids or we can use those skills in different careers. Our knowledge and skills help us raise the next generation better if we do choose to have kids.

    • @tamararoberson8060
      @tamararoberson8060 Місяць тому +4

      Every sahm I know is not making sourdough bread and whistling to the birds while they make TikToks about the joys of vacuuming. They are in desperate need of adult interactions. We love Bluey but there is only so much Bluey one can take. People need adult interactions. When she was young and had her first kids, my sister even took a minimum wage retail job primarily for the adult interaction, people have to get out of the house.
      The irony of these influencers is that they *are* working. They are making income by UA-cam videos, blogs, TikToks, corporate sponsorships, etc. It's quite possible they make more than their husbands. (and with at least a certain milkmaid, it's not even clear she *has* a husband). It's basically just fetish content, selling a fantasy.
      I am also an engineer (EE) but I don't have kids. Even with a six-figure salary, paying bills for myself is hard enough. I couldn't imagine trying to raise kids and a spouse on a median income of like $40k. It wasn't even possible in the 50s when that was held up as the ideal on TV -- it was only a sliver of well-off white women actually living that life.

    • @brooke9847
      @brooke9847 Місяць тому +4

      @@tamararoberson8060 I agree with all of this! I think that's why that type of content annoys me so much. It's like when celebrities get a bunch of work done then claim to have gotten their body from genetics and doing crunches.

  • @juliramoos
    @juliramoos 3 місяці тому +11

    Unfortunately in my experience, traditional wives just get cheated on and abandoned for younger versions. That's what happened to my mom and grandma. That's why I'd never give all the power to a man. Once they have all the power they can do whatever they want and babe, men can be really devilish

  • @amandarenee8562
    @amandarenee8562 3 місяці тому +18

    You hit sooooooo many good points in this video!! I especially love that you mention not every woman enjoys being a stay at home mom! I love my children and love being home to raise them, but it’s also really hard and I need to be fulfilled in my creative passions as well. I feel like I gained respect for you for talking about trad wives being a business! No one talks about the level of privilege the trad wife ascetic fails to mention. Because there are financial sacrifices (especially in today’s economy) that being a stay at home mom brings!

  • @lifeoutnumbered
    @lifeoutnumbered 3 місяці тому +22

    I'm in this realm where I've realized I like to make financial contribution to the household and creating some disposable income for our family, but I also like taking care of my kids and home as my primary "role" if you will. I'm working part time now and it's really been what works for my family and marriage best.

  • @HolyTeacup-bc9uc
    @HolyTeacup-bc9uc 2 місяці тому +9

    One of the biggest issues I find, is, homemakers--almost always women--expect their world, their society, to acknowledge and appreciate all of their hard work. But how in the world can you reasonably expect this when you don't enforce these expectations on your husband? So often, most of the lack of appreciation is coming from their own partner who thinks they're entitled to all of the benefits of you being a homemaker. Homemaking doesn't have to be THIS stressful. Even if your partner is the breadwinner, they should be physically contributing to the household. Instead, people think they can just throw money at shit and that money justifies them being in a space. Contribute to your own living space. Care for it by interacting with it, cleaning up, etc--both partners should do this if capable. It's the principle of nursing your own space and not letting others do 100% of it.

    • @jamese5936
      @jamese5936 Місяць тому +2

      This is where you lose me. You cannot be a stay at home parent then still expect the other partner to still help with chores. If that is the case, then would he be wrong for expecting her to also have a part time job instead of 'being entitled to all the benefits of his work outside the house'. Surely you can see the irony in your comment. Yes, being a stay at homemaker is stressful but so is waking up early going to work and dealing with irritating co-workers. Everything you said literally applies to the stay-at home parent also doing part time work.

  • @katerinaschenke819
    @katerinaschenke819 3 місяці тому +30

    The issue of whether to fully combine finances and give up earning potential is deeper than just being in it to win it. Life experiences, whether your parents are together, what happens in your social circle all influence whether you are even privileged enough to have this outlook. Growing up with a single parent or divorce likely influenced your choice. Sure it works for some people but for others it might not

    • @valerieborovik3885
      @valerieborovik3885 3 місяці тому +10

      As a child of divorced parents my mum had to start again from zero so I saw first hand how hard it is. While my husband I combine finances I have always chosen to work even after having children because being employable has always been important to me. I previously worked in family law and saw many wives/mothers who had been out of the workforce for decades raising children when at 50 they go through a separation and have no means to support themselves having been out of the workforce for so long. So yes, it's great if it works out to be a trad wife but I feel like it's "putting your eggs in one basket".

    • @robinsonfamily3948
      @robinsonfamily3948 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@valerieborovik3885 Why not use that energy to create a family business that can be passed down to your children? A job can't be passed down. When you retire and pass away that job won't give two cents about you.

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому +6

      ⁠@@robinsonfamily3948 Kids don’t always want to take over the family businesses, and it can be risky. In 2020 many family businesses closed down because of you know what. They couldn’t make rent during the shut down, and they couldn’t compete with the cheaper prices of take-out. The job may not give two-cents but the money you earn can provide for your family. Let’s not act like jobs are worthless. You need money in order to survive and if you save, you can give your kids money while you’re alive and in a will after you pass. That’s better than a family business that can sink at any moment imo.

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 2 місяці тому

      Yes let’s just be real… some households can’t afford not to have dual incomes. Or at least some flexible income or overtime etc. especially in order to invest for the future, travel, raise multiple kids, buy a house. We “live” off of my husband’s income and we invest my income. That way we will have security now and in the future.

  • @jacqui-8598
    @jacqui-8598 3 місяці тому +27

    Really have enjoyed the That Awkward Mom channel for showing realistic strategies and showing an attainable life with a family that is not all about buying things

    • @megankuchta9145
      @megankuchta9145 2 місяці тому +1

      I love her! I use her 10-minute task videos all the time!

  • @Elspm
    @Elspm Місяць тому +11

    The "Well actually, feminists, I value motherhood" is so frustrating. Cause like, yeah, one of the great overarching aspects of the feminist movement is to recognise work in the home *as labour*. Childcare isn't all happy fun time, it's hard graft, even if you do greatly enjoy it.
    If a couple organises their family with one person full time at home, and the other full time in the workplace that's cool. But we need to recognise that does put the at home partner in a very vulnerable position. Couples really should be discussing measure like insurance and equitable divorce settlement ahead of anything going wrong.

  • @habibti320
    @habibti320 3 місяці тому +20

    One key to the tradwife movement in my opinion is the state of the economy. Paying for daycare is as much or more than rent/mortgage for many families and if you have more than one young child at the same time with a low paying job/career prospect, many families decide to have one parent stay home. I think the tradwife movement helps those in that situation try to find some sense of purpose in that situation but it isnt a choice for many families. Thankfully i got into a high paying career before having kids so we can afford daycare but it’s still a challenge to balance everything. I think as the economy resettles the tradwife movement will become less popular

  • @jessecreegan9451
    @jessecreegan9451 2 місяці тому +8

    Its almost like lifestyles that end up trending bring out the worst aspects of people. Like no matter how wholesome it is when it starts if it gains any amount of traction toxic influencers will ruin it for everyone.

  • @More13Feen
    @More13Feen 2 місяці тому +19

    You can be a SAHM and not wear prairy dresses, still buy butter and vote leftist and socialist and your husband can still doblaindry and your kids can go to public school.

    • @_Cortney-
      @_Cortney- 20 днів тому

      Yes. Lol. Love your comment. There’s a middle ground.

  • @annepoitrineau5650
    @annepoitrineau5650 2 місяці тому +8

    In Sweden, having been a stay-at-home mom is sthg you can put into your resume. It is valued as work experience. It is absolutely wrong that this is not the case everywhere in the world. I agree that a lot of skills are required to do this job well. I would not want to do it: too isolated, but, preceisely because I do not want to do it, I realise that it takes skills I do not have.
    Moreover: When are men going to sep up and give women what women have been giving men for so long?
    Also: if men are out to work, they grow in a certain dimension. If women stay at home: they grow in a different way. They both expand into completely differnt world, until they are not even on the same planet once the kids (the glue) have gone. They have nothing to say to each other. No wonder many of these marriages collapse.

  • @CogMarks
    @CogMarks 2 місяці тому +22

    I can’t wait to retire next year and just be a cat mom. I’m going to make that the next thing.

    • @lunayen
      @lunayen 2 місяці тому

      That would be fun!

  • @AyaEgbuho
    @AyaEgbuho 2 місяці тому +7

    If people continue to procreate, then we gotta understand that homemaking and family life is paramount. How you do it matters. Do what works not just for today, but for multiple generations.

  • @lizcollinson2692
    @lizcollinson2692 Місяць тому +5

    Feminism is about finding what works for you not tying yourself to a set if requirements that leave you unhappy.
    Not because it's trendy, trendy isn't a basis on which to model your life.
    Girl boss and trad wife are the same thing, it's about manipulation. Both lifestyles are too much for the majority and you should have the skills to be able to respond to change, change will happen, its not planning for disaster, it's being resilient to change.

  • @MrsTurner
    @MrsTurner 3 місяці тому +32

    You’d make a great reporter, I love watching these style videos you’ve been putting out lately.
    I’m a traditional wife and homemaker. For the last five years, since shortly after I married, I’ve stayed home and taken care of my home and family while my husband goes to work. I do have hobbies (sewing mainly) and I can make money with some of them but choose mainly to just keep them as entertainment.
    I don’t push for others to adopt my lifestyle but because I love it I do see it as the ideal!

    • @rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836
      @rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836 2 місяці тому +2

      If you are wealthy, sure. Though everything is easier and you have more choices when you have wealth

    • @MrsTurner
      @MrsTurner 2 місяці тому

      @@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836 we’re scraping by. I learned to pinch pennies from my mom who was also a sahm. I make almost every meal from scratch, i cloth diapered, I even hand washed the diapers at one point because the apartment complex we were in charged too much for laundry. If I was wealthy it would be a blessing but money doesn’t make everything easy.

    • @MrsTurner
      @MrsTurner 2 місяці тому

      @@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836 please don’t assume wealth when you see contentment.

  • @Gitchagoat
    @Gitchagoat 2 місяці тому +15

    I was raised by my Mother who played “Stand By Your Man” every day on the record player while suffering the pains inflicted by her “loving husband “. I didn’t get the memo.

  • @KS-xu7ih
    @KS-xu7ih Місяць тому +2

    I’m a “trad wife” I stay home with my kids. We homeschool. I make a lot of our food from scratch. But I don’t wear dresses or do all the stuff the social media trad wives do. lol my hair isn’t perfectly done and my makeup isn’t perfectly done every day.. it’s just not realistic.. but we are saving up to get land and chickens and a bigger garden then the balcony one we have.

  • @ktmggg
    @ktmggg 2 місяці тому +80

    My mother was a tradwife (1950-1990 when my father died) and her life was a sorry waste. Had she been born a few decades later she could have used her sharp and ferocious intellect and been an excellent lawyer, negotiator or politician. Instead she was a sad and depressed "afternoon drinker" who became an alcoholic. She always encouraged me to focus on my studies, have a means of income and really think hard about raising a family.

    • @jojobookish9529
      @jojobookish9529 2 місяці тому +21

      This is the kind of thing I thought of when that dudebro was going on about if women both work and raise kids, they'll resent one or the other. My dude, women still resented their kids and husbands when they weren't allowed a 9-5 outside the home. It wasn't 9-5s that caused the Valium epidemic among housewives, or the hidden alcoholism like you mentioned. Traditional gender roles can't solve the malaise that is existence under capitalism.

    • @BarbHayes-zn7fi
      @BarbHayes-zn7fi Місяць тому

      It's sad that you call your mother's life a "sorry waste". She produced YOU and wasn't a money hungry bitch who aborts her babies in the quest for money and career. I'm sure she drank to numb her grief. At least she has a heart

    • @NightinGal89
      @NightinGal89 Місяць тому

      Communism was much worse

    • @ladynori
      @ladynori Місяць тому +5

      Odd her options were only politician, lawyer, or drinker? Respectfully, I think you’re giving excuses for your mother’s alcoholism, she could have been a lawyer particularly into the 70s and 80s, as well as many other positions. Worked as a para legal prior to that and got a law degree if she wanted. But remember that actually all of this was allowed then and prior to the 70s and 80s, it just wasn’t as common. For example Margaret Thatcher was first elected to parliament in 1959. I’m not saying any of this to insult your mother, but it’s important for us to be honest and realistic particularly about the long term benefits of modern feminism…

    • @Just-Nikki
      @Just-Nikki Місяць тому +5

      I’m not trying to be rude but there were many job opportunities in that time period as well as many, many, hobbies and skill sets women learned so they could find fulfillment. My grandmother ran an entire mental hospital in that time frame, a famous one at that. Women were college professors, nurses, nurse practitioners, authors, activists, school teachers, artists, seamstresses, owned diners, worked in banks, libraries, grocery stores, etc. staying home or working outside the home are both personal choices but women have had a choice for many, many decades.

  • @mrs.stocky2445
    @mrs.stocky2445 2 місяці тому +9

    I’m a stay at home, homeschooling, bread baking, cooking, messy, piano teaching, ukulele playing, co-op teaching, wish the roomba knew how to navigate around the air fryer and grocery bags I left out because I was too tired to put them up last night…kind of woman. I’m 36…I never considered myself a boss girl when I was in the corporate world or a trad wife when I had my son and longed to stay home with him. I’m just me. We struggled financially at first but my husband has moved up in the corporate world so we do well now. This just worked for our family.

    • @Chi_xxx
      @Chi_xxx 2 місяці тому

      I am a “girl boss” with 2 corporate businesses that can allow my man to stay home all day. Before being a girl boss, I dreamed of being a home maker because it’s easier.. After i lost my child at 25 unexpectedly, I realized that there’s more to life than a man and kids, and I need to be happy and validate my life on my own in this unfair world. Other women are infertile and shamed by men and society. People who are baby-homemakers are very lucky and never seen the horrors the world has to offer. I guess.. girl boss just works for people like us too🫤I dislike such an argument to home life

  • @elizabethh7711
    @elizabethh7711 3 місяці тому +23

    I'm halfway through but that bro who was going off about motherhood and careers for women and how we can't do both...isn't that what men do? Oh wait, it's only possible on the back of women's (largely unpaid) domestic labour...
    ETA: it's not that we as women have to do it all, we can if we want (but it does sound exhausting and I think that's what these two extremes are showing us). What gets my back up is the implication that men can and women can't. Men CAN have a career AND family because he isn't the one doing the majority day in and day out childcare & household responsibilities and accompanying mental and emotional load/labour.

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly!

    • @jz372
      @jz372 2 місяці тому

      Exactly! I mean it’s exhausting that this is the main problem to women issues but we never talk about it. The problem is that women, whether they work or not, do prioritize their family. Men don’t. They just work. They don’t deserve a family with that kind of narcissism.

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes and then there’s those of us who have a vocation that is fulfilling. I’m an artist - a musician, a writer/novelist. If I can flexibly have kids while doing what I love then I will. But if not, I’d rather just keep working my vocation.

  • @cinthiaham1517
    @cinthiaham1517 3 місяці тому +14

    For those who say “you need to work what if your husband dies”
    Take a look at japans value of the mother. She gets her husbands pension in case he dies. They are taken care of by the government so they can continue to do their work.
    When we go back to valuing women and the choice to raise their children then we will truly have a society where women are happy and truly have options

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 2 місяці тому +7

      It shouldn’t be a gendered conversation. Men and women should be having a near equal hand in raising their children. This idea that mother should be staying home and are being socialized to stay home is sad. This is really an issue of capitalism and neoliberalism.

    • @lunayen
      @lunayen 2 місяці тому +9

      Japan isn't the best place to look for women's representation given that the women there are forced out of the workforce. Single and divorced moms don't receive that much help.
      Pensions don't always stretch (especially if your partner worked a lower wage job), so yes, the fear of having to go back to work after the husband dies is real. I don't care if someone wants to stay at home with the kids, but it's better to work at least part-time so you can have money in case your partner dies. You still have time to dedicate your attention to your kids and home and have a stream of income on the side.

    • @emilyp3150
      @emilyp3150 Місяць тому +1

      I love that for Japan! Men and women are inherently different. Women have children. Our bodies get absolutely ravaged by children and we emotionally want to be by our children.

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 Місяць тому +3

      @@emilyp3150 It’s naturally for fathers to want to be around their children as well.

    • @jellymila7678
      @jellymila7678 18 днів тому

      Japan is also totally ok with men seeing escorts 😅

  • @violettracey
    @violettracey 2 місяці тому +10

    Amazing how our social media loves extremes.

  • @LailaZub
    @LailaZub 2 місяці тому +6

    I was also extremely burnout from corporate and decided that working part time while being able to still pick up my kids from school everyday was the best course for me.

    • @PB_324
      @PB_324 2 місяці тому +1

      My working part time worked for us. Highly recommend if you can. Fulltime turned me into an absolute Crab Apple. No matter how supportive a husband is- the house hold burden is almost always done by the wife.

  • @HeatherFragglehead
    @HeatherFragglehead 2 місяці тому +18

    I had a breakdown at work recently because I couldn’t remember the last time I looked at the stars, and I just wanted to be with my son teaching him about birds and bugs and not sitting at a computer all day. 😂

  • @Thatcaramelchic
    @Thatcaramelchic 3 місяці тому +52

    Currently pregnant and working but thanks to my husband. I am going to stop working the first day of my third trimester indefinitely and I definitely can feel that some people are resentful of that, kind of like a how dare you why can’t you work while you’re pregnant? Women have always worked while pregnant. What makes you special? I’m a teacher and while yes it’s not a physically laborious job. It’s extremely stressful and the burnout is real. I also work in special education as a case manager for context so unfortunately, I wear two hats. It’s not everyone though. There are a lot of women who are so happy for me and wish that they had been given the same opportunity and have expressed that they would love to be able to be at home with their children or just be at home and be a wife.
    I’m happy that women are feeling more comfortable saying that they do not want to be in the workforce in the traditional since. That was always me. I never had a dream job I never had career aspirations. I always kind of felt ashamed of that because we live in a culture that highly prioritizes money and grinding but that’s just never been me.

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому +14

      Are they resentful or are they cautioning you of the reality of relying on a man? If your husband divorces you, passes, or something else, you and your children could be severely affected, and you will have to go back to work which is harder when you have a large gap in your resume. It is foolish to rely on a man for finances, and I advise you to be aware of any changes in your husband. Men change when they become the sole provider, and when the baby comes. Don’t be surprised if he leverages money for necessities over you in exchange for sex. This happens to a lot of women, and many of them bragged like you and thought they’d never have anything bad happen to them. Just be aware is all anyone is saying.

    • @Rowanda7361
      @Rowanda7361 2 місяці тому +8

      Yes. I hate working and I am not ashamed to admit it! I don’t want to be a girl boss, and I am so grateful that my husband has always agreed.
      I have run into some very jealous and resentful women who are envious of my husband and I’s arrangement. Making snide and passive aggressive remarks about me not working and paranoid “cautionary tales”. I have come to understand & accept that they really just wish they had it the same but were swooned into girl boss culture and now they are stuck with an expensive mortgage, insane child care bills, a job they hate and a dead beat husband

    • @Rowanda7361
      @Rowanda7361 2 місяці тому +12

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@tiahnarodriguez3809 what do you mean? You sound bitter and paranoid. In that mindset, money and jobs are just as unreliable. You can lose a job position very unexpectedly, then what? You can become disabled as well and be unable to work, then what? Savings can be blown through in one day, then what? Is it worth putting your kids in expensive daycare and not enjoying your life but rather working yourself to death just waiting for your husband to die or cheat on you?
      My husband didn’t change in those ways you say. He was always the sole provider and babies only made him more driven to provide. Young girls should be picky and find better men, tell them on the first date that you want marriage, a family and a provider; and go from there.

    • @daleanaaa9961
      @daleanaaa9961 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Rowanda7361wow do you hear how she spoke to you. The jealousy and venom and lies. Chile they are big mad. Trad wife here and Christian. God is the ultimate provider and I trust my husband as head of household.

    • @kant.68
      @kant.68 2 місяці тому

      @@tiahnarodriguez3809
      80% of divorces are initiated by women so…and in divorce courts women get half the shit of the men most times, plus alimony. Wtf are you whining about?😂

  • @ashtonfinkenbinder7233
    @ashtonfinkenbinder7233 2 дні тому

    I truly enjoyed this video! Like the WHOLE thing! Great synopsis of such a vast array of these events.

  • @gogetyourgun1490
    @gogetyourgun1490 3 місяці тому +15

    Domestic labor & raising children are still labor. Except I don't get paid for it. Also if I get "terminated" or "quit my job" as a tradwife (I.E. divorce) I won't get severance for it, let alone unemployment. Yeah no, a man is not a financial plan.

    • @Rowanda7361
      @Rowanda7361 2 місяці тому

      Imagine planning your ENTIRE life and love life around money. Damn the greed and fear is real here

    • @gogetyourgun1490
      @gogetyourgun1490 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Rowanda7361 Welcome to the real world where money makes the world go round.

    • @Enriquez2222
      @Enriquez2222 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Rowanda7361greed? lol you need money to survive… housing cost money, food cost money, I can’t leave my house without spending money, my entire existence requires money…. This isn’t greed, this is basic survival, so yeah your entire life revolves around money 😂😂. Welcome to the real world

  • @valerie6709
    @valerie6709 3 місяці тому +8

    Women need to take a closer look at the type of men they are marrying these days. If you get married and you live terrified at the possibility of getting divorced in the future then you got a serious problem.
    You have to take the time to meet and study your prospective’s husband’s family. How does your future father in law treats his wife and viceversa. How did your father treated your mother? Was your mom and mother in law stay at home mothers in the pasts?
    People seriously need to learn about conflict resolution before bringing up the “D” word. Also stop getting into debt trying to impress people you don’t even like. It’s so freeing to live a debt free life and having a good amount of money in your emergency savings in case something happens.
    People these days are terrible at saving money , finding partners and conflict resolution. Every choice you make wether staying at home or being a working mom will have its risk but you cannot be living terrified about living life.

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 2 місяці тому +2

      The person you marry is not the person you divorce. People should absolutely be worried about the potential consequences of being completely reliant on anyone. As an adult, you should never put the reins of your life in another person’s hands. People change all the time. They could be raised right and do you right the whole relationship, but end up wanting nothing to do with you through the end.
      I don’t know if you’ve ever started disliking a person before, but that builds resentment and causes you to not desire to care for them anymore. And the thing is it is better that people divorce rather than stay just because. Certain people simply are not compatible or they outgrow one another.

    • @valerie6709
      @valerie6709 2 місяці тому

      @@madlie2452 That is why is never a bad idea to invest your time or money in a career. I feel bad for women who marry young with only a high school diploma and very little experience in a job/career. They start having kids and then it’s too late to start a career from scratch. Then something happens in the marriage and they panic.
      My mother told me since I was young that is good to go to college and invest in a career just in case. You can always restart your career specially if you have a technical and practical career that is always hiring. Recruiters always send me emails and text messages looking for candidates like me so there is no job scarcity in health care. I am still taking continuing education courses to refresh my memory and keep my license up to date.
      Also is ok to seek help if you have conflict in your marriage. My marriage is doing well but I still talk to a therapist so I can learn to resolve any little conflict that gets in the way not only with my husband but with parents, in laws, extended relatives, friends etc. You will always be in conflict with people. It’s just part of life. Obviously never tolerate abuse but many people divorce for reasons that could have been resolved.

  • @jenniferlynnwaters
    @jenniferlynnwaters 2 місяці тому +2

    Honestly I’m so grateful that you created this. It’s so hard to meet the expectations when they’re shifting often and hard. It’s hard and miserable when social media is telling us this is the way to be happy… actually THIS is the way… better yet THIS is the way. And never catching up. But honestly it’s all bullshit. Because we’re all different and should follow our own hearts and paths. It’s not a one size fits all and will never be. We have to break free of the trap.

  • @BrixU-cv5tn
    @BrixU-cv5tn Місяць тому +1

    You’ve done a phenomenal job creating the content for this video. The order in which you presented the material and how articulate you were in summarizing these topics with examples and quotes was absolutely fantastic. We’re all better for watching your content. Thank you and high five 🙌!

  • @laurenkaemingk5640
    @laurenkaemingk5640 3 місяці тому +40

    Loved this!
    1. Both roles can be fulfilling and challenging.
    2. Feminism is about choice!
    3. Modern day workplaces still aren’t supportive of women, having flexibility, more part time and remote options, and honestly try to pay you as little as possible.
    4. Coming from the US, I realllllly wish we had paid leave and subsidized childcare. Providing good little humans for the economy is a big and valuable job and well worth supporting.
    5. I really wish the option of staying home as a dad was more talked about.
    6. Unfortunately, surviving off of one income isn’t doable for everyone even though I wish it were. It can also complicate saving for retirement.
    7. There are risks in every situation and I trust families to make their own choices.

    • @helgaioannidis9365
      @helgaioannidis9365 2 місяці тому +6

      I'd like to modify point 3 a bit:
      Society doesn't provide jobs that allow parents to properly parent.
      As long as we think only women need flexibility in jobs to be able to parent, implicitly we're claiming that men don't need to parent. But men need to parent.

  • @heathermcdill7697
    @heathermcdill7697 3 місяці тому +8

    I trained for a total of 8 years to become a mental health therapist and left my job after only a year to stay home with my kids. I still love therapy and dream to go back to it but that’s the thing. I CAN go back to my career later. I will only be 46 when my youngest graduates high school so I will have a good 20+ years to do that work that I also love. Because I have my degree, I can do both just not at the same time

    • @keeleyhank6812
      @keeleyhank6812 Місяць тому +2

      This is what people don't understand. Women can go back to their profession at any time.

  • @darlabrumit503
    @darlabrumit503 12 днів тому

    This is the best, most kind, well spoken video I’ve seen on this subject so far. Thank you. 🙏🏻

  • @ManjiriChitnis
    @ManjiriChitnis Місяць тому

    First time here and I love how you jumped straight into the topic without a lenghthy intro, very refreshing. Also , the comment section is really good. Am here to stay! Subscribed x

  • @kfors1082
    @kfors1082 2 місяці тому +4

    I’m a homesteading, homeschooling, traditional wife (of 25 years) with a college education. It is a sh&$ton of work. I manage the home in all aspects. Occasionally my husband cooks. He does a lot of the “muscle jobs” around the place and works full time plus away from home. I also teach online classes. I think it’s best for kids to have a full time caregiver. I realize that’s not possible for everyone. Homemaking is not an easy job, but I enjoy it. (I think the title homemaker needs to make a resurgence over trad wife).
    I also think a homemaker needs to have a side business (like the proverbs 31 woman). You never know what life will throw at you.

  • @carambvs
    @carambvs 3 місяці тому +3

    Love your discussion on the topic! The movie The Stepford Wives came across my mind 😅 In the current season of my life, my husband is currently the home maker with our two under two while I'm at work. In the future, he plans to go back to work full time and we are just going to have to eventually make that work for us🤞

  • @Athena240sx
    @Athena240sx 2 місяці тому

    New subscriber, I can see your channel is amazingly deep researched. I listen a lot during drawing or exercising. I will be back, love the intellectual video essays.

  • @sararichardson737
    @sararichardson737 2 місяці тому +4

    Really easy solution to this: don’t consume anti social media.

  • @beccasknittingcorner943
    @beccasknittingcorner943 3 місяці тому +5

    My mom was a stay at home mom but she knew how to knit and actually used it to sell items at craft fairs

  • @wii3willRule
    @wii3willRule Місяць тому +19

    Instead of pushing women to "do it all", it would be better to encourage more men to take on some of the domestic work. It's unrealistic for anyone, man or woman, to be expected to be both a full time parent and a full time worker. I think that's starting to happen more, and I do notice that fathers are now more involved in their children's lives, which is heartwarming to see. But with the rise of the "tradwife" trend, I'm a bit concerned that we'll go back to how things were where few fathers taking an active or leading role with their children.

    • @smania7575
      @smania7575 Місяць тому

      I think women should take on more of the duties men do so they can understand what men go through more. Men tend to take on the yard work, snow removal, car maintenance, etc. But, many women don't see that work. All they see is the lack of house work the man does. Even if the man does stuff in the house too, it's rarely ever enough for many women.

    • @jellymila7678
      @jellymila7678 18 днів тому

      @@smania7575 thing is those tasks are done once in a while not daily/ several times a day. So splitting things by gender roles while both are working is inherently unbalanced

    • @smania7575
      @smania7575 18 днів тому

      @@jellymila7678 I never said for men not to help the women with the tasks they do while women learned what men do. Beyond that, I also never said it had to be traditional gender roles.
      My entire point is women fail to see the time and effort men put in because they're too worried about keeping score of what each of them are doing. You've proven this perfectly with your comment.
      You see mowing the lawn as an every once in a while work when it also comes with prep work, trimming bushes and trees, weeding, possibly bagging clippings, and any tool maintenance. And depending on how short the grass is being cut, this could easily be a weekly to maybe even twice per week task that is done across 2-4 days vs one if it's being done during the week to have more time on the weekends.
      But, as I've stated, you've proven my point perfectly. You only see what you want to see. And most women only see the work they do and can't see what the men do.

    • @jellymila7678
      @jellymila7678 18 днів тому

      @@smania7575 you read what you wanted into my comment✌️

  • @tapeteze
    @tapeteze 12 днів тому

    I thing you have found a very appreciative way to talk about the different ways of living and showed the good AND negative sides. Well done, thank you!

  • @Anastasiia15
    @Anastasiia15 Місяць тому +1

    I want to hug you for making this video! ❤ you said everything I had on my mind lately. We need to talk about these extreme selling ideas/lifestyles more, because they really make women feel bad when they can’t achieve them.

  • @xbriannaxbananax
    @xbriannaxbananax Місяць тому +12

    Regarding the argument about "what if your husband leaves you and you have no money or skillset" - If there is so much fear about husbands turning into hostile jerks, then why is the emphasis on "better not have any gaps in your resume" and not on "HERE'S HOW TO CHOOSE A GOOD HUSBAND"??? Let's get to the root of the problem and take responsibility for the fact that YOU CHOSE HIM. Oh, "but he wasn't like that when I married him". Well, have some foresight. I bet you the signs were there but no one ever taught you how to choose a life partner and so you genuinely didn't see them. THIS is what we should be teaching young girls as a means to protect themselves. Not how to have a separate secret bank account.

    • @smania7575
      @smania7575 Місяць тому +2

      At least one other person here is reasonable and logical. So many comments talking about how men don't do this or men don't do that. Too many women who see men as the problem and themselves (and other women) as victims. I thought women were now strong and independent so why do they need their men to do anything? Can't they shoulder it all?

    • @aleksandrasvintsitskaia470
      @aleksandrasvintsitskaia470 Місяць тому +2

      This is so true! Thank you for leaving this reasonable comment.

    • @your_mom_is_my_dad
      @your_mom_is_my_dad 23 дні тому

      I mean that kinda is true, but I bet the man would say the same in the situation if the woman were to come out about how she feels there isn't an equal base, he wouldn't think to himself "well but it's my fault I chose this woman who doesn't confirm to my wishes". I really think the issue goes deeper than women needing to learn to choose the right partner, teaching both genders about healthy communication, acceptance and where the one or the other gender might struggle is the way to go. If we continue to not teach our sons how to even do laundry, of course there will be a lot more grown up men who women might not ge satisfied with, and the same goes vice versa. Let's take an example of a glass being put down on the edge of a counter by a mom, and a child knocking it down. We're both at fault? Yes, danger could have been minimized by putting the glass down in the middle of the counter. But the child could have knocked it down there anyway, either by accident or intentional. And that's stuff you a) don't know before, and b) isn't your fault, and this goes for both genders. I don't really think blaming women for choosing the wrong partners is the way to go because the same could be applied to men. So there's no solution, better solution would be teaching our kids about mutual respect in a relationship and communication, in my example, basically telling the child to be careful not to knock the glass down.

    • @smania7575
      @smania7575 23 дні тому +1

      @@your_mom_is_my_dad Agreed. And we need to teach our daughters how to mow the lawn, maintain a lawn mower, maintain a snow blower, do basic car maintenance (oil change, putting a spare on, changing whipers, etc), how to trim trees, how to trim bushes, how to maintain a washer and dryer, how to maintain a water heater, how to maintain a furnace and/or boiler, and all the things that go along with home ownership. Women need to stop relying on men to do all that stuff and be a stronger woman.

    • @your_mom_is_my_dad
      @your_mom_is_my_dad 23 дні тому

      @@smania7575 Agree. I am lucky because I got taught almost all of that by my dad (chopping wood, mowing the lawn, building with wood and how to maintain our heater and boiler system are things that immediately come to my mind) and even some of those kind of things by my mom (household electrics, fixing stuff like furniture or walls for example), and I will teach it both my sons and daughters. It doesn't make sense to me though why my brother wasn't even taught to use something as simple as a washing machine. I don't even see this as a female thing, especially cooking. Everybody needs to know how to prepare food to survive on their own, the things you have to watch out for and that are important to survive. I always think of it like this, in case of the apocalypse, imagine your daughter freezes because she doesn't know how to build a fire or chop wood, or your son dies of food poisoning because he doesn't know what you should watch out for when cooking beans for example or meat. Maybe it's just me, but I would want my children to be prepared. My partner also agrees with me, I teach him skills he didn't know yet and he shows me stuff I have never done before. And it really does feel enriching for the both of us, knowing we won't have to get on the other ones nerves if some chore comes up and can do it both, making it all a bit more flexible. He has had a hard day of bodily work? I can move the lawn. I feel tired and he has more of the energy on that day? I can do the dishes and the laundry, while he shovels up snow. Up until now, there have only been advantages, and we are still learning. But I feel like growing as a person the larger my set of skills gets.

  • @emilynelson3504
    @emilynelson3504 2 місяці тому +10

    This is such a good, well balanced, non-shaming video that considers many sides and the fact that we all have a slightly different path in life.
    You also pointed out some of the inconsistencies with each view. Well done! 🙌

  • @katb6057
    @katb6057 Місяць тому +1

    My ex got into drugs and alcohol realy bad and started abusing me and our toddler kids. If i didnt have a job and money, i could have never left, especialy with no suport from family. Even if u go to the shelter u have to find a job, u cant just stay there. No car, no job, abusive husband, i cant imagine someone feeling stuck like that. Everything was great the first couple years, like it always is, but then, ur blindsided by a bad partner and if things get bad in a relationship u cant leave. Especialy with how expensive things are. If i had staid, i would have gotten killed, or worse, something could have happened to my kids, because he would get high and drunk at home. I now feel so free with no panick attacks daily. So i teach my daughters to always make some type of money and save it, just in case.

  • @gokatie42
    @gokatie42 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you for this video and the new style you’re gravitating towards. loving it and you appear* to be thriving (i hope it feels that way to you, too!). when our son was born, i was trying to work full-time 2 months after his birth. 3 years later, our family has made a lot of changes and i’ve recently found myself as a sahm. i don’t think i could call myself a trad wife cuz i’m not “submissive” and my clothes are from costco. 🤷🏼‍♀️im still figuring out how i feel about all of it but this video gave me more to think about while i was making dinner!

  • @Atlantikk
    @Atlantikk 2 місяці тому +4

    watching this was very cathartic. I've struggled with full time work, littles, online school and taking care of myself. Now I want to work but had to quit a great full time position because my kid needed more support adjusting to school. It doesn't matter what I want, which is to work part time at this point. I'm wearing this ill fitting shirt until I can bring in another income again because I have no choice. I've always worked and I feel that it's just as much my responsibility as my husband to create financial security. Starting from square one every time is exhausting coming from a military fam, but I know I won't feel fulfilled until I can return to the workforce.

  • @MysteryExodus
    @MysteryExodus 3 місяці тому +11

    Growing up I was easily influenced by the culture that pushed the “Sex & the City” lifestyle. I thought having a career and not settling down would fulfill me. It didn’t. I spent my 20’s depressed. I never felt passionate about going to work. I just had my first baby at 35 and this is the happiest time of my life.
    And I have no problem with the “trad wife” aesthetic. It’s an ideal that many women should aim for.

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 2 місяці тому

      Women shouldn’t aim for being. TradWife. I need you to re-examine why you believe that staying home cooking and cleaning up after a grown man is something to aspire to specifically for women. You sound like you just want to reinforce gender roles that most women throughout history have never met. Most women throughout history worked; they had no choice but to work. Only wealthy women didn’t work outside the home and even they directly worked as Housekeepers, keeping track of household finances. Wealthy women didn’t cook, clean, nor raise their own children. This idea of a TradWife ever really existing is a fantasy. Shut it down. Women should be able to choose the life they want, but they should not strive to be a grown man’s servantz

    • @silververnallbells191
      @silververnallbells191 2 місяці тому +4

      If you had genuine passion for your career in your 20s then you wouldn't have been so depressed. Now that you've found your passion at 35 it doesn't mean that many women will find it ideal or aim for it.

  • @ifzatindall2451
    @ifzatindall2451 3 місяці тому +1

    This is my favorite bit of content on UA-cam at the moment! I love the well considered insights !!

  • @redhot654
    @redhot654 3 місяці тому +1

    Love your balanced and honest take on these issues as always! We truly need to put down our pitchforks and stick together to improve things

  • @NoraConrad
    @NoraConrad 3 місяці тому +17

    As someone who girl-bossed the last decade and straight into burnout, I am moving more toward Trad wife for my mental health's sake. I still work from home but my primary job is my kids and household. 08:05 is me 100% - that being said, these terms often point toward the worst version of the phrase. I am a work from home mom, and my husband and I have a lot of traditional gender roles but we are both fulfilled by them which is WHY we are doing them.

    • @hospitalfood6621
      @hospitalfood6621 2 місяці тому +4

      So you are working from home, and still doing your "traditional" gender roles too? so does he help clean? help cook? Help with the kids? Or does he let you keep your whole paycheck for yourself? Because if he is till making you pay for bills while you work from home AND do all the female traditional roles at home, well, you are being cheated. This is a mans dream...she stays at home, does all the child care and chores AND makes money to help with the budget. i mean if we are talking traditional, should you even be working from home? I thought he would/should be the bread winner. And the reason you burnt out was probably because you were working 9-5 and doing everything at home. What happened to men helping out with their own children and their home? Why is it that WE have to change but they cant? Burn out is because women cant do it all and they shoudn't. If women contribute financially to the bills , then men can help with the children and household chores.

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому +5

      If you work from home you are not a trad wife. You just work from home.

  • @Sport-ws6ef
    @Sport-ws6ef 2 місяці тому +4

    I find it funny that always 1 of the parents has to give up their entire full-time job for children... you can, you know... both work part-time jobs and both take care of the housework and children. And you are not reliant on 1 person to bring in the money. If 1 of them loses their job, at least you have the other parent who brings in some money.

    • @ashleyestes8232
      @ashleyestes8232 2 місяці тому +1

      Can you get private health insurance if both people are working part time? I don’t know if many companies that offer that.

    • @emilyp3150
      @emilyp3150 Місяць тому

      I’m so happy I didn’t have to work full time. I’m very grateful my husband worked full time while I raised our kids. It was not perfect and it kind of sucked, but it was also really amazing.

    • @Sport-ws6ef
      @Sport-ws6ef Місяць тому +1

      @@ashleyestes8232 Ah I see, I live in a country that has health insurance separate from work, it's not linked to a job.

  • @xLolitaxRagxDollx
    @xLolitaxRagxDollx Місяць тому

    This was interesting and thought-provoking. Thanks for posting! I'm sure this took a lot of work to compile!

  • @bananasmatter1321
    @bananasmatter1321 15 днів тому +1

    I work from home and take care of my kid. It's hard, but I love it.
    I had 6 month maternity leave and by the end I was going nuts just taking care of a kid and house.
    My job was a life-saver!
    There is a good healthy medium between the tradwife and girlboss!

  • @pineapplepapercrafts
    @pineapplepapercrafts 3 місяці тому +8

    Doesnt feminism mean you can pick what you wanna do. Like I work part time. My partner works full-time. We are super lucky we have our parents to baby sit so we dont have to worry about paying for childcare. Which i realize makes us a unicorn couple. But lots of my friends utilize their parents to help with childcare.

    • @wanjawandia1786
      @wanjawandia1786 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly. I thought feminism was about women getting to have choices over their own life. Yet well before the pandemic women that claimed to be feminists were the biggest bullies towards women like me who wanted to live a more slow paced/ “traditional” life in terms of being a SAHM and valuing marriage and family. It literally wasn’t until after the pandemic when I noticed feminists are less judgmental and even starting to like the idea of a slower paced life after being burnt out from the harsh corporate world.

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 2 місяці тому +1

      No feminism was about women’s liberation, not choice. It was about being seen as human, equals intellectually with men. It was never about choice.

    • @kant.68
      @kant.68 2 місяці тому

      No😅…that’s liberal feminism. Modern feminism is about destroying gender roles and the patriarchy. You can choose as long as is “not against” feminism

  • @masumachowdhury
    @masumachowdhury 3 місяці тому +4

    I honestly love these videos so much. It gives me something to watch which isn’t mindless capitalist sponsorship or affiliate pushing. Obviously I appreciate that you have a sponsor, but the way you do it is in a tasteful way. Also, the perspectives you share are really refreshing and actually teach me to unlearn a lot of the judgemental tendencies I’ve picked up from mindless scrolling the last few years.

  • @chelseashurmantine8153
    @chelseashurmantine8153 2 місяці тому

    Thanks this was a really cool video. Love your perspectives.

  • @MalinaCC
    @MalinaCC 3 місяці тому +1

    This video is so good! I grew up with parents who both worked before sun up to past sundown and weekends. My sis and I were basically latch key kids who now have little connection with our parents and a poor relationship with them. I currently have my own job, money and bank accounts but I personally plan to not work full time for the first few years when my husband and I have a young child(ren). I like my job but I enjoy homemaking even more so that’s the route I’m planning to take. I hope we all learn that everything isn’t all or nothing and everyone doesn’t have to take the same path. The beautiful thing about life is that we all are different in our own unique ways and at this moment in time, we actually have the autonomy to make our own choices ❤

  • @szfrj
    @szfrj 2 місяці тому +6

    Hmm traditional as in only after the Industrial Revolution! Before that women were pulling their weight in the economy by processing the raw materials that men brought in! Milling grain, weaving cloth, preserving food, leather goods etc. Traditionally, men and women both worked and contributed to the economy.
    Edit: although the work available to women was of a kind that suited looking after kids at the same time.

    • @madlie2452
      @madlie2452 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for pointing this out. Even during the 50s, poor women worked. Women have always contributed, we were just kept out of fields that were make dominated .

  • @lisaares7091
    @lisaares7091 2 місяці тому +19

    The tradwife community seems a bit whitewashed. Also, I don’t really know any couples these days who can live off of one income. Seems like just another niche aesthetic.

    • @4imee198
      @4imee198 2 місяці тому +1

      you can if you're not terminally consumist :)

    • @hieronymusvonlipschitz
      @hieronymusvonlipschitz Місяць тому

      Yeah that one video of the blonde woman with her kids felt cult-like

  • @ashleysmattf
    @ashleysmattf 2 місяці тому +1

    This was very well done! Well researched! Convincing! Should be written out as an article and pitched/published to something like the Walrus (Canadian pub). More videos like this, please!

  • @TheCreativeCommoner
    @TheCreativeCommoner Місяць тому +2

    I'm so glad that you pointed out that the trad-wife trend is selling you a lifestyle, not advocating for it. It's just a marketing strategy used by trad-influencers to help boost their brands and profits as they build up their equity.

  • @caesiusgeo
    @caesiusgeo 3 місяці тому +17

    I'm an electrician
    My official title is Journeyman Inside Wireman
    When people try to call me a "journeywoman" I tell them "the *man* in journeyman means *human*"
    I don't want a different title. I earned my title!

    • @lunayen
      @lunayen 2 місяці тому

      Good for you for not wanting a different title, but I don't see what's Wong with "journeywoman." I doesn't make your job any less difficult.

    • @caesiusgeo
      @caesiusgeo 2 місяці тому

      @lunayen
      My job ticket says "journeyman"
      Calling me a "journeywoman" is incorrect.
      I earned my title and it makes me feel separate from my brothers when I'm addressed by a different title.
      And it sounds ridiculous

    • @lunayen
      @lunayen 2 місяці тому

      @caesiusgeo
      It's not a different or a lesser title. You are no different than your "brothers" just because of it. It's your title, and you're free to do whatever, but it says a lot that you think that a "journeywoman" is different.

    • @caesiusgeo
      @caesiusgeo 2 місяці тому

      @lunayen we don't call female doctors "doctoress" because it's incorrect and it sounds stupid.
      Don't call me a "journeywoman" because it's incorrect and it sounds stupid.
      I don't know why this is beyond your comprehension.

    • @lunayen
      @lunayen 2 місяці тому

      @@caesiusgeo
      🤨
      Not every title has a female equivalent. However, journeyman does, which makes it neither stupid nor incorrect. Like I said, it's you can do whatever you want, but it says a lot when you see a title as "different" or lesser because it has the word "woman" in it.

  • @andreanaquin5119
    @andreanaquin5119 2 місяці тому +12

    For me the desire to switch to being a stay at home mom that homeschools in the future isn’t about less work, it’s about work that I am PASSIONATE about. It’s tiring. It’s hard. But I care 100% more about my family than my job.

    • @tamararoberson8060
      @tamararoberson8060 Місяць тому +1

      and then what? What do you do when your kids grow up? What do you do when your husband leaves you or you have to leave him? If you're focusing all your energy on hoping to spend a few years homeschooling your little kids, what are you going to do with the rest of your life? Are you going to go back to school and finally start working to save for retirement at 40?
      Any men wealthy enough to support a stay at home wife and kids will not hand over half of everything when they leave. If you get divorced and have no money of your own, you can't even hire a lawyer. You have to maintain your own income to be able to support yourself and your children. You can't rely on a man.

    • @emilyp3150
      @emilyp3150 Місяць тому +1

      Of course there are risks with life. Anything can happen. However, we have our whole lives to work, and only a few years while our kids are little.

    • @tamararoberson8060
      @tamararoberson8060 Місяць тому

      @@emilyp3150 How many years do you plan to not work? You need money in your own name and you need to keep your resume relevant.
      Unless you *plan* to go back to work at a minimum wage job, you are going to be very surprised of how hard it is to re-enter professional life after taking 5+ years off. That's just for one kid. People often end up having multiple and then you are taking a decade or two off from work during your prime earning years.
      Even if you marry a wealthy man, it may not last. Men leave all the time. In my 20s, I was envious of my friends getting married and having babies. Some even bought a house. You know what most were doing a few years later? Raising kids as a single mother. Then you have to work and raise kids with no one to help and no extra money.
      Wealthy men are often the most selfish men. They get a big ego, have a midlife crisis and decide they don't like being tied down with family life and replace you with a newer model who likes to party on his money.
      You can say this guy is different, he goes to church, so he wouldn't do that. Church men do it all the time. Even the *pastor* of the church I was in throughout my childhood did it. He had an affair with a woman that worked at the church, and abandoned his wife and kids. He was wealthy from the church grift and got a big ego.
      Go watch UA-cam videos and TikToks about women who had to start over at age 40 or older. The YOLO decision of "It'll be fun for now, the hardships are a future me problem" will inevitably come back to bite you. This is how women end up homeless and begging their kids to send them money and house them.
      You *need* your own money and career. It's not realistic to just walk away and say you'll figure it out in 10-20 years.

    • @tamararoberson8060
      @tamararoberson8060 Місяць тому

      @@emilyp3150 So instead of taking huge risks that could seriously harm children you want to bring into the world, make sure you mitigate those risks. Even if you think you're a good driver, you should still wear a seat belt because you're not the only one on the road and you're a smartCar in a world full of Escalades.
      I can guarantee you that every woman who ended up living in her car with her kids or in a shelter because her husband walked out or she had to run thought it would never happen to her.
      Even if you don't care what happens to you, care about what happens to your kids or don't have kids.

  • @winspiff
    @winspiff Місяць тому

    You said some things that I really needed to hear. To be honest, it wasn’t even related to the point of the video. It was remarks towards the beginning that pulled together a lot of things I’ve been thinking about in terms of work culture and how to approach it in a healthy way.

  • @maryscott1830
    @maryscott1830 3 місяці тому

    Really enjoying these motherhood series of yours! Excellent job & very relevant topics!

  • @juliahawleydubay4788
    @juliahawleydubay4788 3 місяці тому +3

    Well-said! I’m a SAHM for this season of life by choice, but I’ve been unnerved by the trad wife movement. Thanks for breaking down the pendulum swing.

  • @dusklvr
    @dusklvr 2 місяці тому +8

    After a long day of cleaning and cooking he comes home and accuses me of doing nothing all day..
    Done.

  • @Bingewatchingmediacontent
    @Bingewatchingmediacontent 2 місяці тому +1

    A friend of mine became a Life Coach, and started telling women to lower their voices, and started lecturing everyone to stop apologizing. Then she cheated on her husband and claimed he was toxic for not being ok with that. Yeah, becoming toxic and pushy and mimicking men isn’t empowering. It’s just as gross as men acting that way. Instead we should be encouraging men to apologize.

  • @lisan8611
    @lisan8611 3 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for bringing that up.
    Exactly what i was thinking seeing that content online - but they are NOT traditional because i'm sure they are making enough money to stay independent from their content. It is not the same.
    Besides, we cannot disregard the fact that traditionally women were taking care of the kids and households NOT ALONE, there were generations and support groups, communities - unlike now. And also the fact that so many people cannot rely on just one income in the modern world, it simply isn't enough.

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 2 місяці тому

      Not always. Plenty of traditional women were isolated and had “mommy’s little helper” (pills) and alcohol and cigs to help them deal with how depressing and stressful their lives were. The “women had a village and community” is a myth.

    • @nehalilisays
      @nehalilisays 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@tiahnarodriguez3809You are talking about the 20th century. Before the industrialization most people worked in farming, including children, which had to help a lot in the household as well.