Hi there! Im Vesperon from SEA server, I played thousands game on my WZ-120 and its my first tier 9 I can get into, its a very fantastic tank to play to support the team with its 122mm, the gun does not struggle very much to fight tier 10s the only thing that bugged me all the battle is where I will position myself to shoot before getting shot. To summarize, its a good tank to deal more than 2k damage each match.
Hello from the states. Baloobear56 here, and that game crash on launch and at close of the game for those that have a problem, started with patch 8.11and not quickybaby's mods. i dont run his mods and have the problem. Next thought, thanks for the info on this tank. after the vid i promptly went to my garage and got rid of this tank. you are correct about its VERY BAD character. my game play as bad as it may be, still allows me to get 1500 to 2500 damage, in my nerfed down t59 with much better results for me. others may do better in the wz120, but for me its a piece of junk. again you and jingles really make my days and appeciate the work you do on these videos.
***** Tier for tier, I put my money on the Churchill 1. Of course a tier 9 stock grind is going to be worse since you need more xp, but the Churchill 1 is such a bad tank stock, and it takes a lot of modules to make it even good.
***** The Churchill 1 has a gun that only has 78 mm of pen and 50 damage. ROF doesn't do much for you when your shot bounce off everything, and barely tickles anything it does pen. And you want to talk speed? How's 20 kph. Max. That kind of speed means you can't get anywhere useful for your gun, which means your left plinking away at the front armor of whatever decides to engage you. The armor may be good, but it has glaring weak spots that tier 3 s can pen with the right gun. And there are so many mediocre guns you need to get through before you can get the good ones. The 6 pdrs, while not bad guns, don't belong on a heavy tank. The short 75 mm has average pen as well. Besides, once you get the tracks of the Patton you can mount the upgraded 90 mm from the Pershing, with 20 more pen. And you can always fall back on that strong turret front and gun depression combo. Of course the XP grind is worse for the Patton, I'm just saying that tier for tier, the stock Churchill is less useful by far than the stock Patton.
Brilliant review. Thanks. I am pretty sure at 19:28 that huge miss was a slight chassis move before you came to a restful stop as opposed to the accuacy being an issue. The tanks that have cushier rides tend to sway a bit when they accelerate, and stop, like any vehicle. So, I have noticed that waiting that extra .30 of a second pays off after it is both coming to a hault, or even after it makes that sound when it is aimed in. Kind of like the gunner grabbing his breath. That slight rock, or a slight undulation that you might not see in the chasis absorbing the shock translated to the end of a really long barrel, would show up as meters of difference in a 300 meter long shot. Whereas at 50 meters it might not have mattered as much.
For anyone who is thinking about this tank and the 121... here are my thoughts. Note: I have 2 marks in the WZ-120 and around 300 battles in it. My recent Winrate and Wn8 is 1900 and 58% respectively. I'm gonna be completely honest... this tank is garbage. People are bullshitting you if they say this tank is good. At it's current state, the WZ-120 has all of the following: -Alpha damage is best for Mediums. On par with Heavies. But you will bounce heavies and struggle to hit their weakpoints while they will pen you basically every single time. Do not fight heavies OR mediums of the same tier (directly/brawling) unless you have an HP advantage and wish to trade hitpoints. -View Range is mid-range -Armor is garbage despite what it looks like on paper. Basically everything will pen your hull and your turret can be easily penned via prem or even higher pen standard rounds -Mobility is not best for it's tier. It's not the worst, but it's nothing to be happy about -Gun handling and accuracy are ATROCIOUS. Nothing will help this gun be more accurate. I have BIA, Both Perk's for gun handling, Vert Stabs, I have tried both Vents and ELD, I have used Directives to buff the vert stabs, nothing helps this tank's gun be remotely accurate. And 440 alpha is NOT the best at it's tier. It's gun handling is worse than basically all of the same tier mediums (well it's alpha is better I guess) and it's turret traverse handling is terrible when compared to HEAVIES at its tier -DPM is nothing to be happy about. If you're looking for DPM this is not the tank -Premium rounds are GREAT. If you wanna spam HEAT this is the tank I guess. 340mm of Pen is the same you get on tanks like the 121 and Obj 277. Nice. -Gun depression is ABYSMAL. 3 degrees. Terrible. Can't use it at all on a ridgline making the turret armor useless too. Not that it was ever really good. All in all... not worth at all. I average 47% wins in this tank over the 300 battles I've played. I hover around 2 marks in this tank. Safe to say I am performing better thank a large portion of people in this tank. I can't make it work. Playing very passively isn't quite good because the accuracy and DPM is lackluster. Playing aggressively gets you killed instantly. This is a SUPPORT tank 100%. You cannot take hits yourself and you have to sit there and aim all the way in to be remotely accurate. P.S. This tank is a bully when it's top tier against a bunch of Tier 7's. Against 8's it's okay. Against 9's it will get destroyed. Essentially, you will have insane games if you're top tier and you play well. You will not do well in a tier 9 and 10 game. (Against a decently good enemy team. Not one that dies in 10 seconds.)
So I finally got the 122mm gun for this tank, as well as the suspension, tier 9 engine and turret. The tank is very good. 440 shots, aim time isn't too bad either, seems faster than the T-34-3. I usually cover the light tanks from behind. The 122mm helps with Tier X tanks.
I really love this beast and do well in it, but it seems to attract bad teams, because my winrate in it really sucks! Btw QB, why don't you use Tank Inspector? It's much more detailed with effective angled armor numbers and stuff. Would be really nice to use for these kind of video's I guess?
Why is tank inspector best? The only thing I can think of it that is normalises armour for you. However I believe it is more important to memorise the thickness of each tanks armour and then aim at the weakest plate at the best angle that you can manage.
QuickyBabyTV True, but Tank Inspector gives the precise effective armor thickness when you angle the tank. So for example you can proof it's impossible to penetrate the angled lower glacis of the E-75 with the 122mm of the WZ-120 just by showing the angled tank and pointing right at the spot. Besides, Tank Inspector contains a lot extra numbers and stats you can't even find in world of tanks such as camo factors. It's just so much more extensive than wot viewer.
Hundreds of battles in mine but this schooled me. Thx. Sold my 121 and kept the 120. It's smaller than the 121, and the gun is the same with some "help". Gun laying drive + Stabilizer + BIA. I am 30 minutes into the video and have not heard you mention it's stealth factor yet. Again, another reason the tier 10 doesn't compare. You lose all that stealth value with the 121. Comparisons I've made say this tank is 3rd in stealth of all mediums, save for the Type 59 and the Batchat 25t. This means you can have crew skills/Stabilizer/Gun Laying Drive and not need a net. But it's not a camper. The stealth can be used on the front lines over ridges, like Prokorovka (Fiery Salient) on the hill lighting the enemies down hill or uphill from you and remain unspotted under their noses.
Another great video. I've been sitting on the fence about continuing along the Chinese line ( I came to a screeching halt at the Type T-34 out of disgust) for some time now. Thanks to this video I may give the Chinese another chance. Take care and continue the great work.
To everyone who says servers are laggy: Compare your internet to others, I have 12mb download speed average (16mb max) which gives me at most 100 ping (unless it goes wrong). Check the signal strength to your computer (mine is the full 5 bars) and consider the power of your PC in general. The servers are hardly ever actually laggy, it is usually your computer. First thing to solve this is to turn your graphics down or close any other internet tabs you have open.
WZ-120 fanclub fo lyf, yo. The 122 crits like mad as well, because of its high pen and large calibre - not to mention overmatch. It's an absolute monster. I had a 4-skill crew to drop directly into mine from the Type 59 when I got it and don't regret a thing. Full repair, sixth, all the vstab skills, full camo, deadeye on my gunner too... I still kinda prefer my 120 over the 121. Not sure why, it just feels more comfortable to me.
You forgot to mention the excellent camo values of the tank ;) I have it myself, and I love it. An excellent brawler and if you know the terrain very well, you can use those tricky slopes to your advantage, using them to only show your turret :D
QB --- have you considered trying the top 100mm gun on the WZ-120 which has higher DPM than the 122? The top 100mm also has *much* better gun depression and much improved ROF over the 122. It would be interesting if you did a comparison between the two, I tend to use the 100 much of the time, occasionally I'll use the 122 for a change-up. I also have the 121 which is a fantastic Tier X medium.
at close range, If you can pen all the shots the 100mm is better due to RoF and aim time at range if you can land all of the shots the 122 is better and less worries of bounces. It's all dependant on playstyle and luck.
Thanks learned a lot. I'm still at the T34-2 which i love, in part because i can scare heavies with the 122mm gun.And i've seen how to try and correct some mistakes i've been doing.
As the noob I am, I found the WZ120 a bit of a chore till I got the big gun and now it's much better but alas I'm still kinda crap. I like the T54 better even though it's alpha is less. The T54 is more adaptable and kind to my lack of talent, with better armor, aim time and accuracy. In the WZ the other guy always seems to shoot me before I can shoot him. It does work well in a wolf pack though and that's where it really shines. Even I can hit a tank if I'm right beside it and it's already fired at someone else ;)
Everyone says this tank sucks with the 100mm, I ended up getting my Ace tanker with the 100mm on this tank. It's not as good as the 122mm but it still competes well.
Actually, with my over 400games in wz120, most of my shots are done on the move. Some how it's more effective that way, due to how fast we can go through different terrain! Quicky missed 1 important point, yes, hp/t is lower, but if you count in the road resistance, it put it above t54's 20hp/t in hard/soft terrain. Maybe it's because my crew is at 3 skills each, that's y I had such monster games in this tank. This is my current favourites, besides my isu152,n e5.
Really educational, however; i'm stuck with the 100mm 60-100T gun and can barely penetrate anything that isn't a light tank. A video of you playing with that gun would be great ^^ Thanks for great videos :)
So Quivkybaby, you use World of Tanks viewer and I'm not against that but, have you tried any other software. I know that Jingles uses Tank Inspector and I myself use it too, and it seems to have an epic abundance of information over World of Tanks viewer. I just wanted to throw this out there for you just in the case that you might be interested. P.S. I really like your videos, keep up the awesomeness.
QuickyBabyTv, I know you probably said this in the video, but what would be a good tactic for penetrating this things side armor (at a 45 degree angle) in a Tiger II or Panther II?
Strangely enough I went exactly the line in order to unlock everything for the wz 120 except the top engine which I skip the top engine on the Wz-111-1-4 and go straight to 113 since the engine isn't much of a upgrade but only increase module health but if I'm getting my engine knock out in the rear then I'm doing something wrong. I'm having such a blast playing a dangerous high alpha med that can move really good but always be aware of other med tank that can fire faster and deal more DPM. Can't wait for the 121, but I'm very curious if it worth getting the 113 heavy tank?
I did very well with the WZ 120, great tank the first two hundred matches, *then mm progressively got much worse* and seemed to be counting me as a heavy so I was on teams with 1 heavy all the time, then came nothing but teams of *pure shit*: 1) auto match fail if I didn't carry, 2) other meds and lights on my teams were such shit that *somehow by tier 9 and 10 they didn't what "wolf packing" was*, which was kind of unbelievable. But WOT's broken mm is why I no longer maintain a premium account after 3 years, yay!!.
Why do you compare the WZ-120 with the M46 Patton? since the E-50 has the highest DPM of all tier 9 mediums due to even better ROF than the patton also the rest of the gun stats are just amazing?
I just unlocked this thing, and even with all three of the tier eights elited (negating the need to research the first two 100mm guns) it is still a pretty terrible grind because the stock turret is bad and the DPM is terrible with the WZ-132 gun. Pretty much a Type 59 stock, moved up a tier.
One thing that stats wont tell you: Chineese tanks have absolutely sick ground resistance. They literally float above terrain not giving fuck about swamp, etc.
its unacceptable, but in this video alone you see Quickie rape many faces with it. So, ummmm, reality completely disagrees with your assertion. Why would you say something like that AFTER watching this? You have just watched with your own eyes 41 minutes of evidence that completely contradicts your claim, and yet you make the claim anyways. Why?
***** Oh dude come on! These are chosen replays. I could upload my replay where I killed 7 tanks in french garbage tank B1. Does that mean it's a beast tank? And I didn't even say it's a bad tank. I was just talking about aim time.
I am not sure your accessment is exactly right? The Patton which I owned seems to miss a lot beyond 100m. I never got good DPM out of it so I abandoned the line.
Oliver Walkins Well, AMX 40 has top speed around 40 kph. The fact that it has weak engine doesn't mean that AMX 40 can't reach its top speed. It's not a question "will I be able to use Patton's DPM?" but "what tank has higher DPM?".
Had to search for this video as I have a very hard time making this tank work. Is fully upgraded and I already got a radley walters with it, but 50% of the games played prove to be disastrous and I die very quickly.
The only thing better in this tank than a 34-3 is the armor, by 200 hit points. The stock gun sucks and isn't as good as the 122 mm. It's a Tier 9 med with a tier 8 low end gun. It takes a while to earn the next gun and then the next turret. You can keep going until you get the 122 mm gun or save your exp to get the mighty 121.
Quicky check new better program for analysing armor of tanks. Called Tank Inspector. It shows exact amount of effective armor under angle you look at in point you aim at, with all weakspots. Plus it has tons of additional data like passability of tanks, gun dispersion values etc. You'll like it ;-) Great review by the way :-)
1 mistake. wz-120 doesnt have better rof than the tiger ii. its the other way around. maybe the tiger ii you were facing didnt have full crew or equipment or had ammo racked/dead loader.
Raf von Thorn I bought the enhanced track equipment and just unlocked the upgraded turret as soon I I get the decent 100mm gun I'll unlock the tracks and remove the enhanced Suspension then I'll grind it as normal.
QuickyBabyTV I couldn't help but notice that throughout this entire review you kept comparing the tank to the centurion 7/1. Were you doing that cus you knew that jingles favourite tank in the game and to make him a bit jelly hehehe :D! But @ this review I think I might get this tank in the future but not right away. Can your next review be on the E100. I don't think you have done that one and have done many german heavys.
Have this tank love it, because I know how play tanks with no depression, can't handle bad depression? Don't even bother with this tank it'll never work if u play it like it has any depression or like any medium tbh. Going into urban areas as much as possible is the way to go in my opinion.
Learn the tank's limitation, and never put yourself into those places that makes your lack of depression prominent, it's simple as that when playing wz120. You can reallocate fast, so you can always control where you wants to take on your opponent. If you keep complaining about lack of depression, then you haven't overcome your previous tactic, which this tank need, new tactic that you don't usually do. That new tactic is what surprise your enemy most of the time.
The gun depression (GD) can be worked around. I simply love the chinese lights and i got used to bad GD at the Type 34. After a time its in your blood to use the terrain properly, unless you are really spoiled by playing a lot of american or JP tanks.
Hope you guys enjoy the review of this beast of a Chinese medium.
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yes eu is very bad :)
Lukáš Vaněk Exaggerated..
you've got a nice life:
flat
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and of couse you are a wot beast :D
*****
I dont have any lagg on eu. This is one of my less laggy games.
can u make an object 140 tank review?
0:07 - Quick Tank Review
Looks at video length
41:27
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Lol
He means if by his name...
"Hey guys, welcome to a quick review..." 40 min later....
25:27 "he can shoot you twice for every time he shoots you"
wow thats op, gotta play the Patton :D
Quite sure he meant T54 ;)
Hi there!
Im Vesperon from SEA server, I played thousands game on my WZ-120 and its my first tier 9 I can get into, its a very fantastic tank to play to support the team with its 122mm, the gun does not struggle very much to fight tier 10s the only thing that bugged me all the battle is where I will position myself to shoot before getting shot. To summarize, its a good tank to deal more than 2k damage each match.
Hello from the states. Baloobear56 here, and that game crash on launch and at close of the game for those that have a problem, started with patch 8.11and not quickybaby's mods. i dont run his mods and have the problem. Next thought, thanks for the info on this tank. after the vid i promptly went to my garage and got rid of this tank. you are correct about its VERY BAD character. my game play as bad as it may be, still allows me to get 1500 to 2500 damage, in my nerfed down t59 with much better results for me. others may do better in the wz120, but for me its a piece of junk. again you and jingles really make my days and appeciate the work you do on these videos.
this tank sucks when it's stock
Most stock tank suck btw
Sky Raider
well yeah.. but this 1 must in top 5 of the worst stock tanks :D
***** Tier for tier, I put my money on the Churchill 1. Of course a tier 9 stock grind is going to be worse since you need more xp, but the Churchill 1 is such a bad tank stock, and it takes a lot of modules to make it even good.
***** The Churchill 1 has a gun that only has 78 mm of pen and 50 damage. ROF doesn't do much for you when your shot bounce off everything, and barely tickles anything it does pen. And you want to talk speed? How's 20 kph. Max. That kind of speed means you can't get anywhere useful for your gun, which means your left plinking away at the front armor of whatever decides to engage you. The armor may be good, but it has glaring weak spots that tier 3 s can pen with the right gun. And there are so many mediocre guns you need to get through before you can get the good ones. The 6 pdrs, while not bad guns, don't belong on a heavy tank. The short 75 mm has average pen as well.
Besides, once you get the tracks of the Patton you can mount the upgraded 90 mm from the Pershing, with 20 more pen. And you can always fall back on that strong turret front and gun depression combo. Of course the XP grind is worse for the Patton, I'm just saying that tier for tier, the stock Churchill is less useful by far than the stock Patton.
Didn't know that, that sucks. Still, I'm standing by my Churchill claim.
Nostalgia. Remember when going down the valley on Westfield was a thing?
Brilliant review. Thanks.
I am pretty sure at 19:28 that huge miss was a slight chassis move before you came to a restful stop as opposed to the accuacy being an issue. The tanks that have cushier rides tend to sway a bit when they accelerate, and stop, like any vehicle. So, I have noticed that waiting that extra .30 of a second pays off after it is both coming to a hault, or even after it makes that sound when it is aimed in. Kind of like the gunner grabbing his breath. That slight rock, or a slight undulation that you might not see in the chasis absorbing the shock translated to the end of a really long barrel, would show up as meters of difference in a 300 meter long shot. Whereas at 50 meters it might not have mattered as much.
Sooo used to blitz 122mms (11S+ reload times even on heavies), seeing this reload time gives me chills.
For anyone who is thinking about this tank and the 121... here are my thoughts.
Note: I have 2 marks in the WZ-120 and around 300 battles in it. My recent Winrate and Wn8 is 1900 and 58% respectively.
I'm gonna be completely honest... this tank is garbage. People are bullshitting you if they say this tank is good.
At it's current state, the WZ-120 has all of the following:
-Alpha damage is best for Mediums. On par with Heavies. But you will bounce heavies and struggle to hit their weakpoints while they will pen you basically every single time. Do not fight heavies OR mediums of the same tier (directly/brawling) unless you have an HP advantage and wish to trade hitpoints.
-View Range is mid-range
-Armor is garbage despite what it looks like on paper. Basically everything will pen your hull and your turret can be easily penned via prem or even higher pen standard rounds
-Mobility is not best for it's tier. It's not the worst, but it's nothing to be happy about
-Gun handling and accuracy are ATROCIOUS. Nothing will help this gun be more accurate. I have BIA, Both Perk's for gun handling, Vert Stabs, I have tried both Vents and ELD, I have used Directives to buff the vert stabs, nothing helps this tank's gun be remotely accurate. And 440 alpha is NOT the best at it's tier. It's gun handling is worse than basically all of the same tier mediums (well it's alpha is better I guess) and it's turret traverse handling is terrible when compared to HEAVIES at its tier
-DPM is nothing to be happy about. If you're looking for DPM this is not the tank
-Premium rounds are GREAT. If you wanna spam HEAT this is the tank I guess. 340mm of Pen is the same you get on tanks like the 121 and Obj 277. Nice.
-Gun depression is ABYSMAL. 3 degrees. Terrible. Can't use it at all on a ridgline making the turret armor useless too. Not that it was ever really good.
All in all... not worth at all. I average 47% wins in this tank over the 300 battles I've played. I hover around 2 marks in this tank. Safe to say I am performing better thank a large portion of people in this tank. I can't make it work. Playing very passively isn't quite good because the accuracy and DPM is lackluster. Playing aggressively gets you killed instantly. This is a SUPPORT tank 100%. You cannot take hits yourself and you have to sit there and aim all the way in to be remotely accurate.
P.S. This tank is a bully when it's top tier against a bunch of Tier 7's. Against 8's it's okay. Against 9's it will get destroyed. Essentially, you will have insane games if you're top tier and you play well. You will not do well in a tier 9 and 10 game. (Against a decently good enemy team. Not one that dies in 10 seconds.)
I demand an updated video for this tank! 😏😏😏
So I finally got the 122mm gun for this tank, as well as the suspension, tier 9 engine and turret. The tank is very good. 440 shots, aim time isn't too bad either, seems faster than the T-34-3. I usually cover the light tanks from behind. The 122mm helps with Tier X tanks.
When are you going to make a t57 heavy tank review?
plys use tank inspector
I really love this beast and do well in it, but it seems to attract bad teams, because my winrate in it really sucks! Btw QB, why don't you use Tank Inspector? It's much more detailed with effective angled armor numbers and stuff. Would be really nice to use for these kind of video's I guess?
Lovely long review btw, really like the way you play the WZ-120!
Tank Inspector is the best! :D
Why is tank inspector best?
The only thing I can think of it that is normalises armour for you. However I believe it is more important to memorise the thickness of each tanks armour and then aim at the weakest plate at the best angle that you can manage.
QuickyBabyTV True, but Tank Inspector gives the precise effective armor thickness when you angle the tank. So for example you can proof it's impossible to penetrate the angled lower glacis of the E-75 with the 122mm of the WZ-120 just by showing the angled tank and pointing right at the spot. Besides, Tank Inspector contains a lot extra numbers and stats you can't even find in world of tanks such as camo factors. It's just so much more extensive than wot viewer.
Hundreds of battles in mine but this schooled me. Thx. Sold my 121 and kept the 120. It's smaller than the 121, and the gun is the same with some "help". Gun laying drive + Stabilizer + BIA. I am 30 minutes into the video and have not heard you mention it's stealth factor yet. Again, another reason the tier 10 doesn't compare. You lose all that stealth value with the 121. Comparisons I've made say this tank is 3rd in stealth of all mediums, save for the Type 59 and the Batchat 25t. This means you can have crew skills/Stabilizer/Gun Laying Drive and not need a net. But it's not a camper. The stealth can be used on the front lines over ridges, like Prokorovka (Fiery Salient) on the hill lighting the enemies down hill or uphill from you and remain unspotted under their noses.
Another great video. I've been sitting on the fence about continuing along the Chinese line ( I came to a screeching halt at the Type T-34 out of disgust) for some time now. Thanks to this video I may give the Chinese another chance. Take care and continue the great work.
QB, you should be a radio DJ, you have the perfect voice for it.
To everyone who says servers are laggy: Compare your internet to others, I have 12mb download speed average (16mb max) which gives me at most 100 ping (unless it goes wrong). Check the signal strength to your computer (mine is the full 5 bars) and consider the power of your PC in general. The servers are hardly ever actually laggy, it is usually your computer. First thing to solve this is to turn your graphics down or close any other internet tabs you have open.
Roll with your heavys when you are in this tank.
"We didn't camp out the game, we defended the cap." :D Brilliant!
Will you ever review the M46 Patton? I haven't seen that medium on your channel at all.
+Shea Samuels Imagine a Centurion 7/1 with less armor but faster and much better dpm
WZ-120 fanclub fo lyf, yo.
The 122 crits like mad as well, because of its high pen and large calibre - not to mention overmatch. It's an absolute monster. I had a 4-skill crew to drop directly into mine from the Type 59 when I got it and don't regret a thing. Full repair, sixth, all the vstab skills, full camo, deadeye on my gunner too...
I still kinda prefer my 120 over the 121. Not sure why, it just feels more comfortable to me.
QB gone Jingles: 41 minutes tank review :P
Maybe you could have talked about the terrain resistance on the 120? That thing has Russian Maglev Magitrax to make up for the HP/T.
You forgot to mention the excellent camo values of the tank ;) I have it myself, and I love it. An excellent brawler and if you know the terrain very well, you can use those tricky slopes to your advantage, using them to only show your turret :D
QB --- have you considered trying the top 100mm gun on the WZ-120 which has higher DPM than the 122? The top 100mm also has *much* better gun depression and much improved ROF over the 122. It would be interesting if you did a comparison between the two, I tend to use the 100 much of the time, occasionally I'll use the 122 for a change-up. I also have the 121 which is a fantastic Tier X medium.
at close range, If you can pen all the shots the 100mm is better due to RoF and aim time at range if you can land all of the shots the 122 is better and less worries of bounces. It's all dependant on playstyle and luck.
Thanks learned a lot. I'm still at the T34-2 which i love, in part because i can scare heavies with the 122mm gun.And i've seen how to try and correct some mistakes i've been doing.
Excellent timing I've got it researched and just need the credits for it now.
If you don't have the 110, it's over 110k XP to unlock that 122mm gun. Pretty insane grind.
spookanide thats why you shouldn't let youself get tempted to use your free xp to skip everything up to tier 6 if you start a new tank line....
As the noob I am, I found the WZ120 a bit of a chore till I got the big gun and now it's much better but alas I'm still kinda crap. I like the T54 better even though it's alpha is less. The T54 is more adaptable and kind to my lack of talent, with better armor, aim time and accuracy. In the WZ the other guy always seems to shoot me before I can shoot him. It does work well in a wolf pack though and that's where it really shines. Even I can hit a tank if I'm right beside it and it's already fired at someone else ;)
Everyone says this tank sucks with the 100mm, I ended up getting my Ace tanker with the 100mm on this tank. It's not as good as the 122mm but it still competes well.
***** the 100 mm is identical to the t54s
This video was very helpful as I am close to getting this tank. Thank you
Getting this tank today ...can't wait perfect timing QB
Actually, with my over 400games in wz120, most of my shots are done on the move. Some how it's more effective that way, due to how fast we can go through different terrain! Quicky missed 1 important point, yes, hp/t is lower, but if you count in the road resistance, it put it above t54's 20hp/t in hard/soft terrain. Maybe it's because my crew is at 3 skills each, that's y I had such monster games in this tank. This is my current favourites, besides my isu152,n e5.
looking back at the tank now, what's your opinion about it? I have bought it but have yet to play it (pretty excited though)
Really educational, however; i'm stuck with the 100mm 60-100T gun and can barely penetrate anything that isn't a light tank. A video of you playing with that gun would be great ^^
Thanks for great videos :)
I've managed 4040 dmg in a tier 10 game (with the WZ-120) using the 60-100t:) but yeah... You really need to develop your own tactics:)
cant help feeling QB doesn't really realize how weak the UP of the jgtiger is
qb you make my day
it is not a t54, but I love her. . .it can work out really well if you set it up right.
Thx for the review! Hate the stock wz-120.... Really want it fully upgraded!
So Quivkybaby, you use World of Tanks viewer and I'm not against that but, have you tried any other software. I know that Jingles uses Tank Inspector and I myself use it too, and it seems to have an epic abundance of information over World of Tanks viewer. I just wanted to throw this out there for you just in the case that you might be interested. P.S. I really like your videos, keep up the awesomeness.
QuickyBabyTv, I know you probably said this in the video, but what would be a good tactic for penetrating this things side armor (at a 45 degree angle) in a Tiger II or Panther II?
Didn't the gun depression and elevation get changed to -5/18 degrees?
no, still -3/15
i see, the top gun has -3/15 but the stock gun has -5/18. my b
Marshin72 All 100mm's on the WZ 120 have 5 degrees of depression only the 120mm has only 3.
At the end he was like:
"Aaah!! no Top Gun for me pew pew pew pew pew.."
"As an example."
-QuickyBaby 2014
Just got this tank. Hope the grind will be worth. Can't w8 to use the Bruce lee 1 inch punch 122Mm gun
i like the rate of fire, considering its a 122mm
hi quickyBaby...new to the game, I would like to know to you use the keyboard to play or sth else?
Strangely enough I went exactly the line in order to unlock everything for the wz 120 except the top engine which I skip the top engine on the Wz-111-1-4 and go straight to 113 since the engine isn't much of a upgrade but only increase module health but if I'm getting my engine knock out in the rear then I'm doing something wrong.
I'm having such a blast playing a dangerous high alpha med that can move really good but always be aware of other med tank that can fire faster and deal more DPM.
Can't wait for the 121, but I'm very curious if it worth getting the 113 heavy tank?
hi QuickyBaby. you opinion - the best tier IX medium tank? i love T54E1 and WZ-120 yet not very good for me....
Ive tryed it on my friends account. Its my fav tier 9 along with t54
15:46 reapeat this time till you get bored and you will find out what you need to win a game
I did very well with the WZ 120, great tank the first two hundred matches, *then mm progressively got much worse* and seemed to be counting me as a heavy so I was on teams with 1 heavy all the time, then came nothing but teams of *pure shit*: 1) auto match fail if I didn't carry, 2) other meds and lights on my teams were such shit that *somehow by tier 9 and 10 they didn't what "wolf packing" was*, which was kind of unbelievable. But WOT's broken mm is why I no longer maintain a premium account after 3 years, yay!!.
Why do you compare the WZ-120 with the M46 Patton? since the E-50 has the highest DPM of all tier 9 mediums due to even better ROF than the patton also the rest of the gun stats are just amazing?
hi! would you rather recommend wz120 or t54? I'm grinding now to both but i would like to set one grind as a priority
Thanks!
I just unlocked this thing, and even with all three of the tier eights elited (negating the need to research the first two 100mm guns) it is still a pretty terrible grind because the stock turret is bad and the DPM is terrible with the WZ-132 gun. Pretty much a Type 59 stock, moved up a tier.
I am at the T34-1 which is quite nice, but i am kind of afraid of the WZ120 stock grind.
Xtier medium the best
One thing that stats wont tell you: Chineese tanks have absolutely sick ground resistance. They literally float above terrain not giving fuck about swamp, etc.
If the 122 mm give bad gun depression, does the 100 mm have better?
This tank plays almost identically to the T-34-3
3.4 secs aim time! 3.4 fucking seconds! Even 2.9 secs is unacceptable for medium tank.
I would be OP if it didn't have a bad aim time.
its unacceptable, but in this video alone you see Quickie rape many faces with it.
So, ummmm, reality completely disagrees with your assertion. Why would you say something like that AFTER watching this? You have just watched with your own eyes 41 minutes of evidence that completely contradicts your claim, and yet you make the claim anyways.
Why?
IT is unacceptable for a lower alpha damage gun. Perfectly fine when you hit for 440.
***** Oh dude come on! These are chosen replays. I could upload my replay where I killed 7 tanks in french garbage tank B1. Does that mean it's a beast tank? And I didn't even say it's a bad tank. I was just talking about aim time.
yoman deWOT Are you f...g kidding me?
I know you probably know this but use Tank inspector it has so many many advantages
He said in a past video that he doesn't like it.
would you really use clutch over smooth ride in a 121?
I am not sure your accessment is exactly right? The Patton which I owned seems to miss a lot beyond 100m. I never got good DPM out of it so I abandoned the line.
DPM has nothing to do with accuracy. Those are two different characteristics.
Wysch
You can only USE that dpm if you hit and pen.
Oliver Walkins Well, AMX 40 has top speed around 40 kph. The fact that it has weak engine doesn't mean that AMX 40 can't reach its top speed. It's not a question "will I be able to use Patton's DPM?" but "what tank has higher DPM?".
Had to search for this video as I have a very hard time making this tank work. Is fully upgraded and I already got a radley walters with it, but 50% of the games played prove to be disastrous and I die very quickly.
i just looked at the tank, alpha damage is crazy, never knew it was there, but i love gun depression and my Leo 1, kool tank tho
how you get so cool hanger? it look so nice and only real weakness is gun depression for tank
looks like a improved version of the t34 3 :) that means it is a great tank :)
The only thing better in this tank than a 34-3 is the armor, by 200 hit points. The stock gun sucks and isn't as good as the 122 mm. It's a Tier 9 med with a tier 8 low end gun. It takes a while to earn the next gun and then the next turret. You can keep going until you get the 122 mm gun or save your exp to get the mighty 121.
Quicky check new better program for analysing armor of tanks. Called Tank Inspector. It shows exact amount of effective armor under angle you look at in point you aim at, with all weakspots. Plus it has tons of additional data like passability of tanks, gun dispersion values etc. You'll like it ;-) Great review by the way :-)
Loved the Review!
Thank you!! Was eating myself fat of boredom :)
can you do a review on the crusader?
1 mistake. wz-120 doesnt have better rof than the tiger ii. its the other way around. maybe the tiger ii you were facing didnt have full crew or equipment or had ammo racked/dead loader.
I feel that it is quite weak in the random battles. I don't have one but when facing it, I always think there's a free 1650 dmg
zero gun depression, is the same sensation i feel when i play my t-34-3 D:
Does the t-54 got the same turret and front armor like wz-120?
And whats the differences of T54 And WZ? Speed?
WZ-120 has slightly tougher turret, but bigger weak spots.
The difference in mobility is SMALL, because ground resistance is 20% better on WZ-120.
QB,why not tank inspector?
why dont you use tank insepctor?
I also went up the wz132 line and just got the wz120.. so Far I'm still stuck with the 132's 100mm gun not a good gun on a T9 med
Yeah, the grind is a real challenge. This is the first time i snapped and used the gold to free exp the second gun, in over 16k games...
Raf von Thorn I bought the enhanced track equipment and just unlocked the upgraded turret as soon I I get the decent 100mm gun I'll unlock the tracks and remove the enhanced Suspension then I'll grind it as normal.
what is your reload with the 122?
QuickyBabyTV I couldn't help but notice that throughout this entire review you kept comparing the tank to the centurion 7/1. Were you doing that cus you knew that jingles favourite tank in the game and to make him a bit jelly hehehe :D! But @ this review I think I might get this tank in the future but not right away. Can your next review be on the E100. I don't think you have done that one and have done many german heavys.
Can you do a tank review on the tier 5 T49 thanks. NICE VIDEO
Have this tank love it, because I know how play tanks with no depression, can't handle bad depression? Don't even bother with this tank it'll never work if u play it like it has any depression or like any medium tbh. Going into urban areas as much as possible is the way to go in my opinion.
Hey QB how can i send you a replay? i have one heartbraking moment at my hands in my amx ac mle 46
Anyone see that he recently downloaded a kv-2 derp montage at like 8 minutes?
this tank is best played in a platoon with french autoloaders
isn't it very similar to IS-8?
Learn the tank's limitation, and never put yourself into those places that makes your lack of depression prominent, it's simple as that when playing wz120. You can reallocate fast, so you can always control where you wants to take on your opponent. If you keep complaining about lack of depression, then you haven't overcome your previous tactic, which this tank need, new tactic that you don't usually do. That new tactic is what surprise your enemy most of the time.
The gun depression (GD) can be worked around. I simply love the chinese lights and i got used to bad GD at the Type 34. After a time its in your blood to use the terrain properly, unless you are really spoiled by playing a lot of american or JP tanks.
Correct, after many tanks before it, you should have already got used to that kind of GD. Plus that turret that's better than t54, just rocks
IS7 didnt ammo rack you?
Chinese gun depression can be quite depressing at times.. XD
CAN you do the KV-1S tank review?
What for? Its the most boring tank i have ever played. Its a definition of a "noob tank"
WZ-120 my favorite tank.
nearly got this cant wait look good
I'm having a horrific experience in this tank sofar. And I grind so hard to get it :(
can u make an T-34-2 tank review?
its pritty much the Type 59 with a better gun, more hitpoints and better armor :) i like it :D
superwous12 correction they have the same armor :)
Because it IS the type 59