I have read the books, and watched the 1980s movie. Seriously, Christian’s getting upset about the white veiled dress is ridiculous. In the books, the Feenan people’s culture and language and religion is based on Islam and how they were taken from their original planet and bought to Dune to harvest the spice . In the book, the Feenan women wear hijab style clothes in their home communities, very suitable for desert environments.
Anya’s dress is also a reference to the David Lynch version of her in the 80’s movie. She wears a dark version of this. But she’s a toddler. You’d have to look it up to understand.
dune head here: you’re almost there with the lore im very proud. the fembot pull was extra apt for this movie *because* of the “computer war” not in spite of it. seeing humans become their own computer via the mentats is why they pulled this. also the stillsuits are why you’re seeing looks that accelerate that concept of an ultra structured stuff too. as for rebecca ferguson, the reason for the patchwork vintage lace is a reference to funeral attire because the lady jessica becomes a death dealer in her choices to push the her bloodline as the prophetic messiah which spells death for millions. her little cult’s decision to deus ex machina themselves a foothold on arakis was bad enough but she manipulated it with her whole chest with generational consequences for the people there.
Anya Taylor Joy wore a piece that Alia wore in the „old“ Dune movie at the end, but Alia‘s was black/dark, I think. It was a homage to the old Dune, not nuns.
Yes AND, Lady Jessica is a Harkonnen, so the somewhat fluid black leather and death imagery is appropriate from that perspective as well, and ties in to the film representation of the Harkonnen's.
As a person who read Dune as a kid in the 80s I just appreciate how fashion brought you into talking about the story of Dune and even excited you. It's wonderful. Love your content!
Zandaya is a freaking goddess. She does not miss the mark. She never ever misses the mark. Her stylist is an absolute genius. And she is the absolute perfect model. Not a single note to say about her looks in every single movie she is part of. Amazing
I think the white look of Anya is also referencing her future, as a bene gesserit. As the daughter of lady Jessica, she is also going to be one (bene gesserit).
Well, she's already one of the Bene Gesserit, i dare say. She was one of them even before she was born as her consciousness merged with the consciousnesses of all previous Reverend mothers when Jessica transformed the Water of Life. So i think white look of Anya is actually referencing the black look of Reverend mother Gaya Elena Mohiyam in first movie. And its is white, as the opposite of black, since Alia opposes herself to the Bene Gesserit, being one of them I apologize for my English, it's not my native language
When you said the texture of Zendaya's LV look reminded you of sand, spice, and rose shapes, it immediately made me think it's a reference to her Fremen name "desert rose" which is important in the later half of the movie.
I know costume design can be a little different from high fashion but I’d love to see Luke do a video on some iconic/memorable fashion in film. I so appreciated the research that went into this
Women in the western world were wearing head coverings and veils well into the XX century. Catholic nuns still wear them now (and the fit of the dress is a lot closer to them than a hijab), brides wear them, old women in european villages still wear them. That is not cultural appropriation, if only people had just a tiny bit more knowledge of western history before they went around throwing criticism around.
I would suggest him to look at our orthodox icons (pictures of God and saints): EVERY woman has her head covered. We still cover our heads in churches.
Anya’s outfit is clearly inspired by the women in the movie, she is promoting the movie after all. The women’s clothing, face tattoos and head veils were clearly inspired by Arabic and Kurdish cultures. We’re not saying Arabic and Kurdish people are the only ones who wear head veils, the point is that Anya’s outfit in inspired by these cultures, and women of these cultures get ridiculed when wearing the same thing.
There was criticism around for a reason. As you said, there are other groups and cultures who wear head coverings but the reason why people were upset is because it’s practically only Muslim women who are persecuted for it. And considering the themes of the movie and the political happenings of the world, the “backlash” of the look was completely deserved and warranted. Why you people love to pretend that hijabi women don’t get constantly mocked and harassed, I’ll never know
I think Zendaya definitely should keep going down the fashions of the past ,bring them back show the new generation what struck the fashion industry in shock n Aw.
I’ve spent my entire life in farms in outback Australia. I don’t wear anything other than jeans, boots and shirts, with the odd dress once a year to go out, which I feel extremely self conscious in. And yet I found your channel and love it. You couldn’t get 2 more opposite worlds but that in itself is kinda cool
I think that is what draws a lot of us in. I dress totally different but I love hearing about these garments from an alternative perspective, someone who has been to school and currently goes to runway shows.
22:15 This is so interesting. First of all, to me the look is obviously inspired by a nun‘s dress. But then second of all, why is that not „offensive“ or „problematic“, but had it been inspired by a hijab it would’ve been? Neither should be imo. People need to fkn chill. It’s fashion, it’s art, it’s culture. Different populations and cultures have always influenced each other.
20:13 peoe were crying about Anya and hijab, forgetting about christian nuns that also had similar covers, her character is daughter of Mother Reverend, so she is literally born to a nun order also being a Bene Gesserit
I mean absolutely, yes. But I think the outcry was more specifically about how Muslim women are quite literally persecuted in France for wearing headscarves (where headscarves are illegal), whereas a seemingly secular white woman gets to wear a headscarf and it’s high fashion, chic. It’s about the disproportionate discrimination towards POC women. Like if Anya Taylor Joy wore that to the Paris premiere she wouldn’t be arrested and/fined, but if a POC woman wore it just for fun and fashion in Paris she would be. That’s the big critique. Less so about Muslim cosplay etc., although that was a part of the outcry.
Are we sure the bene gesserit are a nun order though? Again, Frank Herbet takes A LOT from Shia Islam. Shias believe that the prophet's successor is from his daughter's bloodline which is known as "bene hashim". To me, it's clear what they are. It's interesting he uses the mother's bloodline (Jessica's) for the savior, same as Shia Islam. This same bloodline in Shiasm has the Mahdi (as used exact wording in the Dune books) or the savior. Idk there is a TON of layers but to dismiss that Herbet didn't take like 99% of Shia Islam literally verbatim terminology is being just ignorant. Ignorant in the way that you don't mean harm, but just don't know. Anya looked good though! People need to relax.
@@Sowindiee10 even with all that I believe that outcry for this clear injustice should be targeted at the law and not at the ATJ herself since we all agree that there is nothing wrong with wearing a head covering in the first place.
Nuns ??? The Bene Gesserit Dressing is direct Inspiration from Niqab even the color (Muslims have sisterhood too not only Christians), Most Niqabs are in Black, The Books are a Tribute to ARAB ISLAMIC Culture (if we are being positive here) the Books and Movies are filled with Arabic words such as EL Mehdi, Lissan EL GHAIB....... and you are telling me this look is inspired by Nuns ?
Anya's white dress can be interpreted in so many different ways. If it was inspired by nun attire, well, it makes perfect sense since she is the daughter of a Bene Gesserit, who are like these ultra cool nuns lol - and also, she will move on to be known as Saint Alia of the Knife, so sainthood, nuns, it all ties together. But also, it kinda looks like she's being born? The head emerging from out of the fabric, like a baby being born (which also makes sense, since she's an embryo in the whole movie).
I *really* don’t see the connection on the whole appropriations thing with Anya Taylor joys outfit. Head coverings are downright *common* in a large percentage of the worlds religions, and were a significant fashion statement just a few decades ago in the west (Grace Kelly, Jackie O). Tbh I think it looks far more nun-like that hijab-like, but regardless the whole thing feels like people looking for something to be mad at.
the fembot suit also resembles the fremen stillsuits (which themselves are like full-body armor against the harshness of the desert) and the cutout in the white stepahne rolland is similar to the emperor's sigil. brilliant method dressing overall. another one for the books!
One of my fave videos of yours. Very impressed by your knowledge of Dune - connecting the dots and drawing parallels beyond their looks and on screen characters. Well done! And it’s crazy how good Zendaya looks every single time. She can do no wrong!
I've been waiting for this video since the press tour started! Even though Zendaya's suit is originally a femme bot, I interpreted her use of it to be more of a take on a suit of armor, which would make sense in the Dune universe as there are scenes of battles where the fighters are wearing full metal armor. Also, bummed you didn't talk about the event where Zendaya and Timothee were wearing matching leather jumpsuits.
The Muslim hijab/khimar was likely based off of the habit worn by Orthodox nuns throughout the Byzantine Empire called an apostolnik. Anya's outfit makes sense as the Bene Gesserit ultimately function similarly to a convent. The title of "Reverend Mother" is just the Dune version of a Mother Superior. To be fair, women throughout Central/Southern Asia have always worn some sort of scarf head covering, like the Hindu dupatta, because it's simply a practical garment in hot arid climates. But there is evidence to suggest that the hijab is inspired by the Christian apostolnik specifically and not just the general fashion of the region. A lot of cities in Saudi Arabia were predominantly Christian for centuries before the Muslim conquests, and the oldest churches in the region are specifically from Eastern sects from the early Byzantine period (~4th century). The prescription for women wearing the hijab is based on Surah Al-Ahzab, wherein Mohammed observes the harassment of the women of Medina in 622 AD by the Banu Qaynuqa tribe. He tells the women to draw their cloaks over their bodies in order to be recognized as "virtuous" so that the rival tribesmen will no longer sexually harass them. To be recognized as virtuous is different from simply covering up for the sake of just being hidden from men. This suggests that most tribes in the area were aware of the Orthodox nuns in the region and understood that their habits were meant to signify their relation with God, that is to say, that they were virtuous. The women of Medina aren't just told to make their bodies imperceptible, they are told to look like "virtuous" women (presumably nuns) in order to dissuade the rival tribesmen from viewing them as sexually available objects to harass.
@@karpathian_slaw7928 The attire itself isn't inherently insensitive because the designer's inspiration didn't stem from SWANA/Islamic culture. However, the outfit is being worn in the context of DUNE, a film influenced by SWANA and Islamic culture in the 20th century, rather than the other cultures you mentioned. Were it not for DUNE, it's unlikely this attire would have been chosen. In the video, we see actors donning garments reflective of DUNE's aesthetic, and Anya Taylor-Joy is styled similarly. Thus, the stylists are aligning their choices with DUNE's aesthetic, which indirectly draws from SWANA and Islamic influences. Also, the ongoing political unrest in France and the Middle East adds another layer of sensitivity to the situation. All of these factors contribute to the insensitivity of the outfit choice. SWANA/Muslim individuals often find themselves dismissed or patronized when expressing disapproval of cultural appropriation or disrespect. This dismissal is exacerbated by the portrayal of SWANA/Muslims in Western media, where they are often dehumanized in news coverage and entertainment. It's important to understand the reasons behind the anger felt by SWANA/Muslim individuals and to strive to listen and improve our actions accordingly.
I've been watching your videos for a hot minute now and always appreciated the wealth of fashion knowledge and history you bring to your analyses, but this video is on another level! I love how you blend the movie lore into your analysis, it's so interesting!
Really glad that Anya Taylor-Joy had some great hair styling for her Margiela look, not mimicking the runway “Gibson girl” styles but finding something else really fitting that made the dress pop.
I see a thematic link between Zendaya's suit and the fremen stilsuits. They're both armour that protects the inhabitant (the stilsuits protect from the desert), and what they wear to battle. Chani is a warrior.
I was sooooooo anticipating this review, and the fact that you are (aside from delivering a meticulous fashion critique) kind of geeking out the movie is giving me life! great video as always, many thanks ☺
My interpretation of Rebecca Ferguson wearing Olivier Theyskens: the Bene Gesserit are called "witches" by other characters because of their physical and mental conditioning. Her gothic look could be a nod to that.
One thing no one can say is that you don't do your work. We can see that you study your ass off and deliver knowledge. I love when you do these kinds of videos, bringing details, names and references.Amazing!
i’m so glad a new generation are getting to fall in love with mugler’s work. i saw beyoncé in this suit and a heap of his other creations at the IAWT and was gagged!
that last dress at 36:24 actually reminds me of one of paul’s visions of chani, where shes wearing a long white dress with long sleeves while walking in the sand, and her hair is done naturally and worn down- so the many similarities are making me think it may be a reference to that
if anyones curious about what vision it is its from the first movie, and its a vision paul haves (of presumably one of the possible alternate futures he has) where chani is overlooking a fight scene (something alluding to the holy war maybe?)
As some others have already said, Taylor-Joy's premiere look is basically a white, fashion chic version of what her character wore in the 1984 film version, so it is inspired by the hijab (indirectly). She has taken this approach of modeling her looks on references to the film she's in a number of times recently, such as the pink jumpsuit for _Super Mario Bros._ and the look inspired by the wives from _Mad Max: Fury Road_ when she attended a _Furiosa_ convention panel.
When I watch your videos, I not only learn about fashion, but also geography, literature, history of medicine and film analysis. I am so happy to watch your content!
Anya’s Christian Dior look is quite literally how I personally wear my hijab just like many other Muslim women do. However, her look was modest and she looked absolutely beautiful imo 🤍
I am obsessed with listening to you talk about fashion! I am a bb in fashion knowledge, so hearing how deep and artistic looks can be is so fun! Thank you!
I'm so impressed that you are embracing the movie and that you have really done your research. I love love love that you have such a perspective on fashion history. Baby sandworms indeed!!!!
Your analysis on anya Taylor joy in terms of religion and the relationship between fashion and culture is really nice. As a muslim woman, i am looooving her outfit. Anyone who is pissed at her is insane
Just pissed at the hypocracy, Muslim women, especially in the west are ridiculed for their head coverings. It’s banned in France. Anya Taylor is not Muslim 🤷🏾♀️
oh thank you so much for mentioning my beautiful country Tunisia! most people forget that Alaia is Tunisian! such an icon! it's an honor when celebrities, especially like Zendaya, wears a Tunisian name like Alaia. Hope more Tunisian fashion designers become global and show the beauty of North Africa to the rest of the world!
21:41 I am also convinced Anya Taylor-Joy had a dress inspired by nuns... because if you look at the model, there is a white catholic cross hanging half way on the dress.
The story isn't about nuns or Christianity-it's inspired by SWANA and Islam, which is where the problem lies. The clothes themselves are not offensive since the designer had a different inspiration. But wearing them to the DUNE premiere is insensitive because we know what DUNE was inspired by. Also, the clothes are being worn during a time of political trouble in France and the Middle East, which makes it even more insensitive. There's a strange situation where Western culture loves Muslim/SWANA stuff only if it's made palatable for white people. But when Muslims/SWANA folks do their own thing, they often get made fun of or treated badly. As someone who grew up Muslim in the West but has roots in North Africa and the Middle East, I've seen our culture mocked and put down many times-it's sadly normalized. Only recently have Muslims/SWANA people started speaking out, mostly thanks to the widespread of social media. Even though they mostly get negative reactions, their complaints are real and deserve attention. We need to listen to them and understand why they're upset.
so excited! was hoping you will film video like this!!! on the other note - i don’t care (I haven't watched the video yet) i will forever be obsessed with Rebecca’s look 🤍🫡
I kinda liked the subtle fashion-coded military details in stuff like the Prada suit with that double-wrapped belt: it may not be pure sci-fi wackadoodle method dressing, but it still feels utilitarian enough and shows how more traditional fashion has always employed bits of military-inspired detailing
the dress controversy for anya wasn't because of whom the dress was inspired by but rather demonising the people who veil themselves for the sake of their beliefs but letting these celebs and designers use the same faith for profit.
I didn;t want the spoilers so watched it with the sound down.! Im obsessed with Dune and I found the first one, artistically beautiful. So to see Dune 2 having so much aesthetic to it is just mind blowing. I love it.
I think some references were much closer... Like Zendaya's grey and brown looks were a nod to her armour in the movie, the same as Rebecca's black lether dress for me looked like their suit... You truely reached, I hate it and i love it ;D
Wow, already commited but loved the Dune tie ins. Amazing detailed referencing!! Fantastic and so entertaining watching again and forwarded to my daughter. Thank you❤
As a hijabi, i don’t think Anya’s dress is necessarily offensive, it’s just frustrating. Knowing that me and my people have BEEN dressed like her for years, but we get called slurs or have our scarves banned in public places (ie. France), so to see a white/non muslim women wearing the SAME thing but getting complimented for it is where all the anger is coming from. It doesnt help that the movie is set in the desert, and uses Arab influences, but there are NO Arabs in the main cast. We’ve been living like “desert people” for centuries and were ignored, but when a white person does it, it’s awesome and futuristic. It’s kinda like whenever Adam Sandler or Kanye West wears “casual street clothes” and people are obsessed, but when a middle class person wears the same thing, they’re called homeless.
yess so true on that anya taylor head covering look. head coverings like that have been a part of the christian church dress since the beginning- Mary was a middle eastern woman and often depicted in a head covering, it was not just a religious thing. Some religious women in communities still cover their hair in bonnets and scarves in her likeness
That second look by up and coming artist with mixed heritage took my breath away... simply fabulous I google searched it right away to see what else was in the collection I could get 😂😅
I appreciate your videos so much! I love how you actually give the historical background and context significance instead of just a subjective opinion on a trend. I learned so much through your research, thank you 🫶
Timothee's first look reminded me if the stillsuits. The color, vaguely military appearance, close fit, and the way the belt was worn all hark back to the suits.
the gold shapes on the bottom of zendayas last dress remind me a lot of desert roses, which is a crystal that has these sort of petal like flat shapes that cluster together... it just adds another layer of genius to the look and reference
I saw the movie when it debuted here in South Africa . The fashun alone kept me rivetted to my seat and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I think Austin Butler as Feyd was inspiring and made me watch Elvis too. Maybe Luke can review that as the costumes were epic. This review was on point as usual. 👠👠
Luke!! Wow!! You **nailed** that architectural reference with the Salk Institute. Because there’s another architect whose work looks a *lot* like Louis Kahn’s, with that sculptural poured concrete, and they used his work as a location in the film. His name is Carlo Scarps, and the scenes with the emperor and his daughter (I.e. Christopher Walken and Florence Pugh) at home were filmed at this couple’s tomb outside of Venice, Italy-those walls with interlocking circles in particular.
Her looks did half the marketing truly
The studios even thanked Law personally😂 Law mentioned it in a recent interview.
Queen of method dressing!!
And timothee was also a hottie as always
@@h.b.1315 They should let Law style the main cast for Dune 3. WE WILL GAG🥰🥰
She got the gays to the theatre like frfr
No really because the commercials didn’t do it for me
we are seated for mother zendaya
she really did say “SIT DOWN”
@@hautelemode her fashion is the "voice"
I’m sat!
Sat, seated and my butt in all of the seats
Fully squished😂
Luke explaining Dune lore through fashion is the thing that I needed to be convinced to read the damn books, truly
Facts ❤
it's quite dense and i'm reading it in bits but they are very engaging.
I have read the books, and watched the 1980s movie. Seriously, Christian’s getting upset about the white veiled dress is ridiculous. In the books, the Feenan people’s culture and language and religion is based on Islam and how they were taken from their original planet and bought to Dune to harvest the spice . In the book, the Feenan women wear hijab style clothes in their home communities, very suitable for desert environments.
The books are heavy reading 📚 enjoyable though no idea if the film(s) are similar as I've only read the books.
He's so good!
Anya TaylorJoy was in ONE SCENE 💀😩. I was shook
She will be a very important character though. It's good to build the hype
there will be part 3?@@BiNguyen-jy1zh
I loved that scene. It is kind of like how Zendaya had only a few scenes in the first part.
tell me you don't understand the story without telling me you don't understand the story:
@@RED-my9hl who did you replay too?
Anya’s dress is also a reference to the David Lynch version of her in the 80’s movie.
She wears a dark version of this.
But she’s a toddler.
You’d have to look it up to understand.
Came here to say this!!
Ow yes since we are going to act ignorant let's also say that Dune itself is inspired by David Lynch.
Imma start telling people they’d have to look it up to understand 💀
That’s the black abaya (explicitly Muslim attire in the books).
@@edwardjamesjr1 Explicitly? I feel like it would be allegorical if anything. Is there a Nation of Islam on Arrakis? Lol
Zendaya has brought cosplay to the red carpet. Love it.
dune head here: you’re almost there with the lore im very proud. the fembot pull was extra apt for this movie *because* of the “computer war” not in spite of it. seeing humans become their own computer via the mentats is why they pulled this. also the stillsuits are why you’re seeing looks that accelerate that concept of an ultra structured stuff too. as for rebecca ferguson, the reason for the patchwork vintage lace is a reference to funeral attire because the lady jessica becomes a death dealer in her choices to push the her bloodline as the prophetic messiah which spells death for millions. her little cult’s decision to deus ex machina themselves a foothold on arakis was bad enough but she manipulated it with her whole chest with generational consequences for the people there.
Lady Jessica is quite hard to read in the third book. Very mysterious.
Anya Taylor Joy wore a piece that Alia wore in the „old“ Dune movie at the end, but Alia‘s was black/dark, I think. It was a homage to the old Dune, not nuns.
Yes AND, Lady Jessica is a Harkonnen, so the somewhat fluid black leather and death imagery is appropriate from that perspective as well, and ties in to the film representation of the Harkonnen's.
As a person who read Dune as a kid in the 80s I just appreciate how fashion brought you into talking about the story of Dune and even excited you. It's wonderful. Love your content!
Zandaya is a freaking goddess. She does not miss the mark. She never ever misses the mark. Her stylist is an absolute genius. And she is the absolute perfect model. Not a single note to say about her looks in every single movie she is part of. Amazing
Law Roach is just awesome. The Image Consultantancy, for the Dune part 2 press tour alone, has been nothing less than flawless.
Zendaya and Law Roach made red carpet history with that lewk
Zendaya continues to slay red carpet looks. The references and interesting fashion always wow me. Great video!
I think the white look of Anya is also referencing her future, as a bene gesserit.
As the daughter of lady Jessica, she is also going to be one (bene gesserit).
AHHHHHHHHH have not read enough to get to that hehe
Well, she's already one of the Bene Gesserit, i dare say. She was one of them even before she was born as her consciousness merged with the consciousnesses of all previous Reverend mothers when Jessica transformed the Water of Life. So i think white look of Anya is actually referencing the black look of Reverend mother Gaya Elena Mohiyam in first movie. And its is white, as the opposite of black, since Alia opposes herself to the Bene Gesserit, being one of them
I apologize for my English, it's not my native language
When you said the texture of Zendaya's LV look reminded you of sand, spice, and rose shapes, it immediately made me think it's a reference to her Fremen name "desert rose" which is important in the later half of the movie.
her fremen name is sihaya which means "desert spring" no?
@@cgm530You right
@@cgm530 you're so right. Typo on my end.
excellent point
I know costume design can be a little different from high fashion but I’d love to see Luke do a video on some iconic/memorable fashion in film. I so appreciated the research that went into this
Women in the western world were wearing head coverings and veils well into the XX century. Catholic nuns still wear them now (and the fit of the dress is a lot closer to them than a hijab), brides wear them, old women in european villages still wear them. That is not cultural appropriation, if only people had just a tiny bit more knowledge of western history before they went around throwing criticism around.
💯 and well said!
I would suggest him to look at our orthodox icons (pictures of God and saints): EVERY woman has her head covered. We still cover our heads in churches.
Thank you! That’s so true and I’m really baffled so many people are unaware/ forgot about it 😨
Anya’s outfit is clearly inspired by the women in the movie, she is promoting the movie after all. The women’s clothing, face tattoos and head veils were clearly inspired by Arabic and Kurdish cultures. We’re not saying Arabic and Kurdish people are the only ones who wear head veils, the point is that Anya’s outfit in inspired by these cultures, and women of these cultures get ridiculed when wearing the same thing.
There was criticism around for a reason. As you said, there are other groups and cultures who wear head coverings but the reason why people were upset is because it’s practically only Muslim women who are persecuted for it. And considering the themes of the movie and the political happenings of the world, the “backlash” of the look was completely deserved and warranted. Why you people love to pretend that hijabi women don’t get constantly mocked and harassed, I’ll never know
Hmm really appreciated your breakdown of Anya’s white dress. Lots of food for thought
I think Zendaya definitely should keep going down the fashions of the past ,bring them back show the new generation what struck the fashion industry in shock n Aw.
If anyone can pull it off, it’s her
In some of Paul's visions, we see a gold metal armor that will be used by the Fremen in the upcoming war, possibly inspiring Zendaya's metallic look
I’ve spent my entire life in farms in outback Australia. I don’t wear anything other than jeans, boots and shirts, with the odd dress once a year to go out, which I feel extremely self conscious in. And yet I found your channel and love it. You couldn’t get 2 more opposite worlds but that in itself is kinda cool
I think that is what draws a lot of us in. I dress totally different but I love hearing about these garments from an alternative perspective, someone who has been to school and currently goes to runway shows.
love this! ❤
Jealous of your lifestyle :(
22:15
This is so interesting. First of all, to me the look is obviously inspired by a nun‘s dress. But then second of all, why is that not „offensive“ or „problematic“, but had it been inspired by a hijab it would’ve been? Neither should be imo. People need to fkn chill. It’s fashion, it’s art, it’s culture. Different populations and cultures have always influenced each other.
I love that you broke down the fashion in sync with the storyline of Dune!!! This is why you are the best Luke!!!
20:13 peoe were crying about Anya and hijab, forgetting about christian nuns that also had similar covers, her character is daughter of Mother Reverend, so she is literally born to a nun order also being a Bene Gesserit
I mean absolutely, yes. But I think the outcry was more specifically about how Muslim women are quite literally persecuted in France for wearing headscarves (where headscarves are illegal), whereas a seemingly secular white woman gets to wear a headscarf and it’s high fashion, chic. It’s about the disproportionate discrimination towards POC women. Like if Anya Taylor Joy wore that to the Paris premiere she wouldn’t be arrested and/fined, but if a POC woman wore it just for fun and fashion in Paris she would be. That’s the big critique. Less so about Muslim cosplay etc., although that was a part of the outcry.
Are we sure the bene gesserit are a nun order though? Again, Frank Herbet takes A LOT from Shia Islam. Shias believe that the prophet's successor is from his daughter's bloodline which is known as "bene hashim". To me, it's clear what they are. It's interesting he uses the mother's bloodline (Jessica's) for the savior, same as Shia Islam. This same bloodline in Shiasm has the Mahdi (as used exact wording in the Dune books) or the savior. Idk there is a TON of layers but to dismiss that Herbet didn't take like 99% of Shia Islam literally verbatim terminology is being just ignorant. Ignorant in the way that you don't mean harm, but just don't know. Anya looked good though! People need to relax.
@@Sowindiee10 even with all that I believe that outcry for this clear injustice should be targeted at the law and not at the ATJ herself since we all agree that there is nothing wrong with wearing a head covering in the first place.
You think this movie is inspired by Christian nuns? Look up prayer hijab dress and tell us ahian how this is inspired by a nun.
Nuns ??? The Bene Gesserit Dressing is direct Inspiration from Niqab even the color (Muslims have sisterhood too not only Christians), Most Niqabs are in Black, The Books are a Tribute to ARAB ISLAMIC Culture (if we are being positive here) the Books and Movies are filled with Arabic words such as EL Mehdi, Lissan EL GHAIB....... and you are telling me this look is inspired by Nuns ?
Anya's white dress can be interpreted in so many different ways. If it was inspired by nun attire, well, it makes perfect sense since she is the daughter of a Bene Gesserit, who are like these ultra cool nuns lol - and also, she will move on to be known as Saint Alia of the Knife, so sainthood, nuns, it all ties together. But also, it kinda looks like she's being born? The head emerging from out of the fabric, like a baby being born (which also makes sense, since she's an embryo in the whole movie).
I *really* don’t see the connection on the whole appropriations thing with Anya Taylor joys outfit. Head coverings are downright *common* in a large percentage of the worlds religions, and were a significant fashion statement just a few decades ago in the west (Grace Kelly, Jackie O). Tbh I think it looks far more nun-like that hijab-like, but regardless the whole thing feels like people looking for something to be mad at.
Z is giving us everything we want. In fashion, in acting, in kindness, EVERYTHING. You just can not NOT love her.
Zendaya and Law ate as they always do . Also dune the film is definitely in my mood board for my looks and aesthetic .
I loved TC and zendaya matching looks on the premiere in South Korea
Hi ! Can you please again start reacting to retrospective awards like Golden Globe 1999, Academy Awards 2009 etc...love you videos anyway :)
As a DIE HARD Dune fan for the last 30 years, your references and knowledge of Dune culture makes me so so happy. ❤
the fembot suit also resembles the fremen stillsuits (which themselves are like full-body armor against the harshness of the desert) and the cutout in the white stepahne rolland is similar to the emperor's sigil. brilliant method dressing overall. another one for the books!
One of my fave videos of yours. Very impressed by your knowledge of Dune - connecting the dots and drawing parallels beyond their looks and on screen characters. Well done! And it’s crazy how good Zendaya looks every single time. She can do no wrong!
I've been waiting for this video since the press tour started!
Even though Zendaya's suit is originally a femme bot, I interpreted her use of it to be more of a take on a suit of armor, which would make sense in the Dune universe as there are scenes of battles where the fighters are wearing full metal armor. Also, bummed you didn't talk about the event where Zendaya and Timothee were wearing matching leather jumpsuits.
Zendaya is a superstar, and I say this without even knowing a single production she was in aside from Dune 1.
The Muslim hijab/khimar was likely based off of the habit worn by Orthodox nuns throughout the Byzantine Empire called an apostolnik. Anya's outfit makes sense as the Bene Gesserit ultimately function similarly to a convent. The title of "Reverend Mother" is just the Dune version of a Mother Superior.
To be fair, women throughout Central/Southern Asia have always worn some sort of scarf head covering, like the Hindu dupatta, because it's simply a practical garment in hot arid climates. But there is evidence to suggest that the hijab is inspired by the Christian apostolnik specifically and not just the general fashion of the region. A lot of cities in Saudi Arabia were predominantly Christian for centuries before the Muslim conquests, and the oldest churches in the region are specifically from Eastern sects from the early Byzantine period (~4th century).
The prescription for women wearing the hijab is based on Surah Al-Ahzab, wherein Mohammed observes the harassment of the women of Medina in 622 AD by the Banu Qaynuqa tribe. He tells the women to draw their cloaks over their bodies in order to be recognized as "virtuous" so that the rival tribesmen will no longer sexually harass them. To be recognized as virtuous is different from simply covering up for the sake of just being hidden from men. This suggests that most tribes in the area were aware of the Orthodox nuns in the region and understood that their habits were meant to signify their relation with God, that is to say, that they were virtuous. The women of Medina aren't just told to make their bodies imperceptible, they are told to look like "virtuous" women (presumably nuns) in order to dissuade the rival tribesmen from viewing them as sexually available objects to harass.
Thank you
You think this movie is inspired by nuns and Christian culture?
@@omaewamoushindeiru6581not the movie point blank but this outfit specifically yes
@@karpathian_slaw7928 look up prayer hijab dress and try again to tell me this is purely intended to represent a nun.
@@karpathian_slaw7928 The attire itself isn't inherently insensitive because the designer's inspiration didn't stem from SWANA/Islamic culture. However, the outfit is being worn in the context of DUNE, a film influenced by SWANA and Islamic culture in the 20th century, rather than the other cultures you mentioned. Were it not for DUNE, it's unlikely this attire would have been chosen. In the video, we see actors donning garments reflective of DUNE's aesthetic, and Anya Taylor-Joy is styled similarly. Thus, the stylists are aligning their choices with DUNE's aesthetic, which indirectly draws from SWANA and Islamic influences. Also, the ongoing political unrest in France and the Middle East adds another layer of sensitivity to the situation.
All of these factors contribute to the insensitivity of the outfit choice. SWANA/Muslim individuals often find themselves dismissed or patronized when expressing disapproval of cultural appropriation or disrespect. This dismissal is exacerbated by the portrayal of SWANA/Muslims in Western media, where they are often dehumanized in news coverage and entertainment. It's important to understand the reasons behind the anger felt by SWANA/Muslim individuals and to strive to listen and improve our actions accordingly.
That gorgeous Mugler!!! Your knowledge of fashion is beautiful. xx
I've been watching your videos for a hot minute now and always appreciated the wealth of fashion knowledge and history you bring to your analyses, but this video is on another level! I love how you blend the movie lore into your analysis, it's so interesting!
Really glad that Anya Taylor-Joy had some great hair styling for her Margiela look, not mimicking the runway “Gibson girl” styles but finding something else really fitting that made the dress pop.
I thought that look more referenced the Fosse style:
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I see a thematic link between Zendaya's suit and the fremen stilsuits. They're both armour that protects the inhabitant (the stilsuits protect from the desert), and what they wear to battle. Chani is a warrior.
I was sooooooo anticipating this review, and the fact that you are (aside from delivering a meticulous fashion critique) kind of geeking out the movie is giving me life! great video as always, many thanks ☺
I dream to be half the method dresser Zendaya is
Z E N D A Y A you will always be a famous iconic talented gorgeous woman
I feel like the Mulger Zendaya look also reminded me of the sandsuit they wore in the movie that helps retain water
My interpretation of Rebecca Ferguson wearing Olivier Theyskens: the Bene Gesserit are called "witches" by other characters because of their physical and mental conditioning. Her gothic look could be a nod to that.
One thing no one can say is that you don't do your work. We can see that you study your ass off and deliver knowledge. I love when you do these kinds of videos, bringing details, names and references.Amazing!
i’m so glad a new generation are getting to fall in love with mugler’s work. i saw beyoncé in this suit and a heap of his other creations at the IAWT and was gagged!
Congratulations Luke, the analysis you did in this video of the pieces, it’s designers and how it connects with the movie is insane. Great video!
that last dress at 36:24 actually reminds me of one of paul’s visions of chani, where shes wearing a long white dress with long sleeves while walking in the sand, and her hair is done naturally and worn down- so the many similarities are making me think it may be a reference to that
if anyones curious about what vision it is its from the first movie, and its a vision paul haves (of presumably one of the possible alternate futures he has) where chani is overlooking a fight scene (something alluding to the holy war maybe?)
As some others have already said, Taylor-Joy's premiere look is basically a white, fashion chic version of what her character wore in the 1984 film version, so it is inspired by the hijab (indirectly). She has taken this approach of modeling her looks on references to the film she's in a number of times recently, such as the pink jumpsuit for _Super Mario Bros._ and the look inspired by the wives from _Mad Max: Fury Road_ when she attended a _Furiosa_ convention panel.
When I watch your videos, I not only learn about fashion, but also geography, literature, history of medicine and film analysis. I am so happy to watch your content!
Anya’s Christian Dior look is quite literally how I personally wear my hijab just like many other Muslim women do. However, her look was modest and she looked absolutely beautiful imo 🤍
I am obsessed with listening to you talk about fashion! I am a bb in fashion knowledge, so hearing how deep and artistic looks can be is so fun! Thank you!
Alia is a reverend mother, so a nun motif makes sense for Anya Taylor-Joy's Paris dress.
Austin Bulter's look reminds me of a Patrick Swayze throw back.
The references to the movie via fashion blows my mind 🤯 they did great
I'm so impressed that you are embracing the movie and that you have really done your research. I love love love that you have such a perspective on fashion history. Baby sandworms indeed!!!!
Omg! I guessed the Helmut Lang right 😮
I remember it in one of my first Vogue Magazines in 96/97!
Lets hope the met gala this year will deliver just half as much as these fits...
Uts gonna be a good year then
Your analysis on anya Taylor joy in terms of religion and the relationship between fashion and culture is really nice. As a muslim woman, i am looooving her outfit. Anyone who is pissed at her is insane
Just pissed at the hypocracy, Muslim women, especially in the west are ridiculed for their head coverings. It’s banned in France. Anya Taylor is not Muslim 🤷🏾♀️
Glad you decided to continue the dune press tour review but this time around for pt. 2. Enjoyed your review for dune pt.1, im sure I'll enjoy pt.2 !
Very impressed with your Dune lore knowledge. The AI wars pre Dune? Top citation ❤
27:52 Good job whoever matched the skin tone of the bodysuit she wore underneath it.
oh thank you so much for mentioning my beautiful country Tunisia! most people forget that Alaia is Tunisian! such an icon! it's an honor when celebrities, especially like Zendaya, wears a Tunisian name like Alaia. Hope more Tunisian fashion designers become global and show the beauty of North Africa to the rest of the world!
21:41 I am also convinced Anya Taylor-Joy had a dress inspired by nuns... because if you look at the model, there is a white catholic cross hanging half way on the dress.
Ow yes cause the movie is so inspired by nuns and Christian culture right? You are soooo right aren't you
She was born a reverend mother in the books (albeit an “abomination”) because she survived the spice (water) agony.
The story isn't about nuns or Christianity-it's inspired by SWANA and Islam, which is where the problem lies. The clothes themselves are not offensive since the designer had a different inspiration. But wearing them to the DUNE premiere is insensitive because we know what DUNE was inspired by. Also, the clothes are being worn during a time of political trouble in France and the Middle East, which makes it even more insensitive.
There's a strange situation where Western culture loves Muslim/SWANA stuff only if it's made palatable for white people. But when Muslims/SWANA folks do their own thing, they often get made fun of or treated badly. As someone who grew up Muslim in the West but has roots in North Africa and the Middle East, I've seen our culture mocked and put down many times-it's sadly normalized.
Only recently have Muslims/SWANA people started speaking out, mostly thanks to the widespread of social media. Even though they mostly get negative reactions, their complaints are real and deserve attention. We need to listen to them and understand why they're upset.
i've been looking for your commentary on the Margiela Spring/summer 2024 :D!
Omg. The bottega Veneta. I just love it so much. You can never go wrong with a wide belt and a crop top
Anya Taylor Joy’s veil is based on a wimple from the medieval European period.
I love that you give so much background information, I'm here for fashion and architecture history :D
so excited! was hoping you will film video like this!!!
on the other note - i don’t care (I haven't watched the video yet) i will forever be obsessed with Rebecca’s look 🤍🫡
I'm here for how much you know about Dune! You're playing it off, but I see you 🪱🙌💜
I kinda liked the subtle fashion-coded military details in stuff like the Prada suit with that double-wrapped belt: it may not be pure sci-fi wackadoodle method dressing, but it still feels utilitarian enough and shows how more traditional fashion has always employed bits of military-inspired detailing
the dress controversy for anya wasn't because of whom the dress was inspired by but rather demonising the people who veil themselves for the sake of their beliefs but letting these celebs and designers use the same faith for profit.
Ooo the black leather skull dress?!? Amazing, amazing
I didn;t want the spoilers so watched it with the sound down.! Im obsessed with Dune and I found the first one, artistically beautiful. So to see Dune 2 having so much aesthetic to it is just mind blowing. I love it.
I think some references were much closer... Like Zendaya's grey and brown looks were a nod to her armour in the movie, the same as Rebecca's black lether dress for me looked like their suit... You truely reached, I hate it and i love it ;D
Wow, already commited but loved the Dune tie ins. Amazing detailed referencing!! Fantastic and so entertaining watching again and forwarded to my daughter. Thank you❤
As a hijabi, i don’t think Anya’s dress is necessarily offensive, it’s just frustrating. Knowing that me and my people have BEEN dressed like her for years, but we get called slurs or have our scarves banned in public places (ie. France), so to see a white/non muslim women wearing the SAME thing but getting complimented for it is where all the anger is coming from. It doesnt help that the movie is set in the desert, and uses Arab influences, but there are NO Arabs in the main cast. We’ve been living like “desert people” for centuries and were ignored, but when a white person does it, it’s awesome and futuristic.
It’s kinda like whenever Adam Sandler or Kanye West wears “casual street clothes” and people are obsessed, but when a middle class person wears the same thing, they’re called homeless.
Watching this as the deep dive into dune lore that it is. Slay
The subtle dig at another celebrity not respecting historical, transformative fashion is SENDING meeeeeeeee!! 🤣😂
22:02 fun fact: habits became popular in Catholicism following the crusades when the hijabs inspired wimples and habits!
yess so true on that anya taylor head covering look. head coverings like that have been a part of the christian church dress since the beginning- Mary was a middle eastern woman and often depicted in a head covering, it was not just a religious thing. Some religious women in communities still cover their hair in bonnets and scarves in her likeness
That second look by up and coming artist with mixed heritage took my breath away... simply fabulous I google searched it right away to see what else was in the collection I could get 😂😅
Excellent content as ALWAYS, Luke.
Zendaya is the Queen for sure ! Long live the Queen! She’s a force all on her own !!!
7:42 gasp i instantly knew from the pic thats where im from. such a cool trivia abt the inspiration behind the look tyyy 🥺
I also think Butler's wide shouldered looks call back visually to the old Dune movie, I donno, it's all very 70s-80s and Sting to me 🤭
You are so well spoken and researched. I admire that so much!
I appreciate your videos so much! I love how you actually give the historical background and context significance instead of just a subjective opinion on a trend. I learned so much through your research, thank you 🫶
I wish you talked about the matching look and the McQueen from the Tokyo stop
Would you ever do a video on the best/most fashion forward looks on drag race I would love to see you dive into that !!
Would like to add that it could be the looks they brought from home or the looks they made in the workroom
Great video. Really well researched. Thank you.
Timothee's first look reminded me if the stillsuits. The color, vaguely military appearance, close fit, and the way the belt was worn all hark back to the suits.
Really enjoyed this. You have become one of my favorites. Setting aside a full day to watch the Met review. 👏👏👏😉
Yesssss: the Dune content we NEED
the gold shapes on the bottom of zendayas last dress remind me a lot of desert roses, which is a crystal that has these sort of petal like flat shapes that cluster together... it just adds another layer of genius to the look and reference
I love and respect how deep your research goes.
I saw the movie when it debuted here in South Africa . The fashun alone kept me rivetted to my seat and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I think Austin Butler as Feyd was inspiring and made me watch Elvis too. Maybe Luke can review that as the costumes were epic. This review was on point as usual. 👠👠
Awesome interpretations of the looks! Thank you ❤
Luke!! Wow!! You **nailed** that architectural reference with the Salk Institute. Because there’s another architect whose work looks a *lot* like Louis Kahn’s, with that sculptural poured concrete, and they used his work as a location in the film. His name is Carlo Scarps, and the scenes with the emperor and his daughter (I.e. Christopher Walken and Florence Pugh) at home were filmed at this couple’s tomb outside of Venice, Italy-those walls with interlocking circles in particular.
Thank you for your historical references and context in world religious history and fashion history…❤❤❤❤…my heart is singing.
Yess been waiting for a full recap!