I've always accepted AP's products as 'close enough'. 100% accuracy is absolutely something to strive for, but is likely impossible. Though going to get better motor sounds would help with the immersion, now that Covid restrictions are letting up, it's immersive enough for me. Making a brand new Electrostar model from scratch would take time and money to create, hence why AP uses the existing London-Brighton/Chatham Mainline model and gets Gu to change bits of it. Not to mention Richard has stated in the past that he has a passion for the old slamdoor units, hence the excruciating detail that went into the 411/412. He mentioned on an ATS stream a while back that if he had the money to do another pack like the 411 again, he'd probably do the 421/423 next, something I don't blame him for as I love the old slammers too.
Honestly mate, with regards to the motor sounds, there are so many videos on the Internet to use as motor sound reference . The most annoying this is despite sounding really warped and uncelar , the worst part is that it isn't consistent, for example you can here the motors from 1mph to 100mph consistently. Whereas in the game, yhe Motor sounds are ghost like...blending into the track run sounds. In reality motors are very audible, listen to every electrostar video on the Internet. The motors are a big part of what makes electrostars stand out.
The thing is someone has already made a complete model of the Electrostar family from 377, 387, 375, 379 and the 377/7 an he also made new Pantograph's for every variant.
@@Speedster-jw7qx yeah true but they normally include liveries for trains, even if the route doesn't exist. Or they used to. Good because it means future=proofing
They didn't include the Heathrow express because it would require making a different cab as the Heathrow express even more different than their "387" cab as it uses ETCS level 2 so the cab is just comprised of a giant screen with a speedometer and some ETCS stuff I know I was shocked by a lack of Heathrow express as well but that's the reason why its missing. So yes your right if they included it it may bump up the price
Yawwie was super spot on with older gen electrostars motor sounds vs modern electrostar sounds, firstly the modern electrostars are much more audiable , they are consistantly louder, and they have slight different noises. But one similarity they share with older electrostrs have with newer ones, is that the motors are both consistent from low speed to high speed. My criticisms, the motor sounds are decent , they actually re appear at 75mph mph only on the ep 2, in reality they can be heard consistently from 1mph to 110mph consistently, in game you can clearly hear how AP just blended them with the track run sounds to have an excuse not to create the entire sound sequence, as an electrostar fan,...its not that hard to hear them in real life, there are so many online examples of videos to use as sound references, the motors are quiet but very very audible. I really wanted them to re do them and make them properly audiable. If they do a juniper pack, I do hope they don't just make the same mistake as blending the motor sounds with the track run sounds, that will piss me off heavily, juniper motors are even. More audible than electrostars , esspecially class 334s, they are LOUD!! With regards to the compressor sounds and the "hiss' at the end. They even missed that out on the class 365s ep, the class 365 in reality have a random hissing sound I'm assuming that just releases air. With regards to the
No route for 357 (yet) and a suitable route for the 376 is non-existent and I doubt will come into Train Simulator anytime soon (which is sad because that’s my local)
The dynamic breaking is more less the same:ua-cam.com/video/iY7F8uS2bA8/v-deo.html but in the older trains you can hear the squeak. Also I think you might be pitch perfect. My issue is mainly with the metro electrostars that being the class 378. The departing noise should literally be one octave higher than the conventional electrostars.
With the Class 379 Electrostars. Perhaps Great Northern or Heathrow Express should inherit them to work with the Class 387. Or Great Western Railway can have some of the Class 379s and some to Great Northern and the Class 387/3s cascaded from c2c to be cascaded to Gatwick Express or Heathrow Express or Southern.
And as you mentioned about the traction motors on the newer electrostars. It’s actually from IGBT-VVVF (Bombardier MITRAC DR1000). Which sounds bit deeper than the older electrostars.
What liveries do you all like? I like the Gatwick express and the ex Gatwick express and the Heathrow Express (it’s not included but he showed it when he said they didn’t add that livery)
I was already expecting this pack to be a total disappointment, but it’s become immeasurable hence ruining my brain with a scam of a price tag I never knew every Electrostar was secretly a 377/2, what is Armchair Wheelbarrow trying to say to us? HMM
Just like how nobody asked for the electrostars, nobody asked for this video jk jk jk lmaoooo, this was pretty nice, everyone is money hungry tbh now and its pretty pathetic how armstrong got away with this bs like its fookin stupid
@@militarybandsOP ohh is it because the 378 and 376 sound is supposed to be one octave higher than the other electrostars and that there should also be a 376 in the game?
@@Nice_Person7379 no there isnt but people don't know that they run sometimes run between London Victoria and Orpington. But a new 378 is needed badly.
damn, just how expensive rushed content from ts is, £16 or probs £12470297340918821402149872109470219... then omsi bus simulator we get a whole new modeled accurate sounds bus is like £13 still i guess as said in the video it serves its purpose but rushed stuff should shouldnt be so damn expensive, and arsefuck studios decide to say "realistic" when using innaccurate models they didnt make
6:00 the best bit of the entire video
Oh man, I love these Yawwie videos so much and I don't even play Train Simulator.
Armstation Land Rover! These will never get old.
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I've always accepted AP's products as 'close enough'. 100% accuracy is absolutely something to strive for, but is likely impossible. Though going to get better motor sounds would help with the immersion, now that Covid restrictions are letting up, it's immersive enough for me.
Making a brand new Electrostar model from scratch would take time and money to create, hence why AP uses the existing London-Brighton/Chatham Mainline model and gets Gu to change bits of it.
Not to mention Richard has stated in the past that he has a passion for the old slamdoor units, hence the excruciating detail that went into the 411/412. He mentioned on an ATS stream a while back that if he had the money to do another pack like the 411 again, he'd probably do the 421/423 next, something I don't blame him for as I love the old slammers too.
Honestly mate, with regards to the motor sounds, there are so many videos on the Internet to use as motor sound reference . The most annoying this is despite sounding really warped and uncelar , the worst part is that it isn't consistent, for example you can here the motors from 1mph to 100mph consistently. Whereas in the game, yhe Motor sounds are ghost like...blending into the track run sounds. In reality motors are very audible, listen to every electrostar video on the Internet. The motors are a big part of what makes electrostars stand out.
The thing is someone has already made a complete model of the Electrostar family from 377, 387, 375, 379 and the 377/7 an he also made new Pantograph's for every variant.
The reason heathrow express isnt included is because of the cab having a digital speedometer.
True
And also there is no Heathrow airport route in train simulator
@@Speedster-jw7qx that doesn't explain why the 379 is here
ye cuz ETCS
@@Speedster-jw7qx yeah true but they normally include liveries for trains, even if the route doesn't exist. Or they used to. Good because it means future=proofing
I always look forward to these videos they make my day
the west anglia mainline dialogue was spot on🤣🤣🤣 absolute havock on that side of North london
Both the 153 and 165/166 really need new models as to me doing an EP for both units would be a half arsed job to me.
the 153s model is decent enough for an enhancement back but the 165/166 desperately needs a new model
Armstrength Powerhorse presents: Class 375/377 Enhancement Pack, Volume 2
7:42 "thank you glados (or gladis idk)" im now gonna be in the next eurostarn enchancment pack
Finnaly, a new vid from yawwie, i love your content and make more awesome and hilarious videos
I reckon a 360 and 442 upgrade would be great
Approve on the east London accents on the 379 clip literally East London and Essex in a bubble…
At 5:09 the only way the saloon lights turned off then was because an oncoming advert made the screen blank for a second LOL
Good ol' armstation landriver are back at it. You know what they say, 2nd time's a keeper 😏
6:48 It is a decent recording I completely agree with you on that. To me it sounds like they recorded it from a 2009 stock tbf
They didn't include the Heathrow express because it would require making a different cab as the Heathrow express even more different than their "387" cab as it uses ETCS level 2 so the cab is just comprised of a giant screen with a speedometer and some ETCS stuff I know I was shocked by a lack of Heathrow express as well but that's the reason why its missing. So yes your right if they included it it may bump up the price
They have every choice not to bump it up. Keep the price the same. Its a fucking screen. Flat. A texture. 😂
@@NSE465 even if AP did do the HX 387 with the proper cab they would run into the problem of how to get ETCS to work within the limitations of TS
@@kylelennard9932 DTG must completely redesign the original Train Simulator series so the ETCS can be added without limitations.
Nice one Yawwie! Always make me laugh! And just wondering do you need any clips of pics of the 701?
165/166EP anyday its needed cus the old sounds are over 10 years old
2:15 PTSD intensifies.
Yawwie was super spot on with older gen electrostars motor sounds vs modern electrostar sounds, firstly the modern electrostars are much more audiable , they are consistantly louder, and they have slight different noises. But one similarity they share with older electrostrs have with newer ones, is that the motors are both consistent from low speed to high speed.
My criticisms, the motor sounds are decent , they actually re appear at 75mph mph only on the ep 2, in reality they can be heard consistently from 1mph to 110mph consistently, in game you can clearly hear how AP just blended them with the track run sounds to have an excuse not to create the entire sound sequence, as an electrostar fan,...its not that hard to hear them in real life, there are so many online examples of videos to use as sound references, the motors are quiet but very very audible. I really wanted them to re do them and make them properly audiable.
If they do a juniper pack, I do hope they don't just make the same mistake as blending the motor sounds with the track run sounds, that will piss me off heavily, juniper motors are even. More audible than electrostars , esspecially class 334s, they are LOUD!!
With regards to the compressor sounds and the "hiss' at the end. They even missed that out on the class 365s ep, the class 365 in reality have a random hissing sound I'm assuming that just releases air.
With regards to the
no new sounds when departing!!!!!!! >:((((((((
xd
375/377/378/379/387: "YAY, WE ARE ON TRAIN SIMULATOR"
357 and 376: *Crying intensifies*😭😭😭
Also 376: "Yawwie, you missed me out, you plum"😭
No route for 357 (yet) and a suitable route for the 376 is non-existent and I doubt will come into Train Simulator anytime soon (which is sad because that’s my local)
Yes,no suitable route for the 376 *Cough Cough* London-Sevenoaks *Cough cough*
@@bowlerstuff9589 to be fair you’re right. as long as you have the Victoria +St Pancras to Dover route from the workshop, you can use the 376 there.
Now to wait for a Class 376/378 EP
we need the class 376 378 and 357 EP ap just missed those trains out
To be fair they did say "would you most like to see" not "which would you like next?"
Yawwie News #7 headline incoming: Northern Line Extension is finally open
Been waiting for this 🤣🤣🤣
“ThEy hAVe tHe SaMe MoTorS” same argument from various other packs *cough* 317, 325 etc
*vol 2 of the 465 is here*
Newer motor recordings will increase the price by £5.99 + £100 for various health and COVID-69 permissions.
0:36 we're finally getting this in 2025
When reversed the dynamic brake it litterally sounded the same as the accelerating sounds.
2:06 class 376 be like: am I a joke to you
You forgot the CLASS 378 AND 376 AND 375 ALSO THE 357
Heathrow express being in the sound pack would be pointless because Heathrow is not in the game
Neither is Stansted Airport
@@kismikola the 379 can run on the great eastern mainline
@@Westlondontransportguy7045 but Stansted Airport isn't officially in the game, so therefore the livery is useless, i guess.
@@kismikola but greater anglia is on it right
Sadly the 357 won't appear unless the LTS route gets made
fancy seeing you here
The dynamic breaking is more less the same:ua-cam.com/video/iY7F8uS2bA8/v-deo.html but in the older trains you can hear the squeak. Also I think you might be pitch perfect. My issue is mainly with the metro electrostars that being the class 378. The departing noise should literally be one octave higher than the conventional electrostars.
With the Class 379 Electrostars. Perhaps Great Northern or Heathrow Express should inherit them to work with the Class 387.
Or Great Western Railway can have some of the Class 379s and some to Great Northern and the Class 387/3s cascaded from c2c to be cascaded to Gatwick Express or Heathrow Express or Southern.
And as you mentioned about the traction motors on the newer electrostars. It’s actually from IGBT-VVVF (Bombardier MITRAC DR1000). Which sounds bit deeper than the older electrostars.
@@Andrewjg_89 actually Great Northern are using the 379s
@@BusesFromHanworth Yep and to replace the Class 387s.
Need I say something else about this pack...The "realistic" run sounds are reused recordings from the Class 170/171/172 enhancement pack..
Great stuff
1:13 me when Ro-scale Railway (RSR) is down.
I think your price summery pretty much explains AP’s pricing system all be it a bit exaggerated at least for now...
The yellow on the southern doors are two short they go from the top to the bottom of the window
What liveries do you all like?
I like the Gatwick express and the ex Gatwick express and the Heathrow Express (it’s not included but he showed it when he said they didn’t add that livery)
Completely irrelevant in the spectrum of things but the irl 375 was filmed at Folkestone central
The 376 is underrated
It's underrated for a reason, it's shit
i do hope armtractor petrol station make an IET pack soon...
They did
Nice
3:16 Where are you freeware lords
I was already expecting this pack to be a total disappointment, but it’s become immeasurable hence ruining my brain with a scam of a price tag
I never knew every Electrostar was secretly a 377/2, what is Armchair Wheelbarrow trying to say to us? HMM
Rushing releases and cutting corners but still asking the same prices. Armstrong powerhouse are starting to be more like DTG with every release.
CLASS 90 UPGRADE WHEN?
yes
Yawwie I must warn you, the doors are a copyright from the class 377.
Where's the class 357?
Class 172 ep when
We don’t even have the West Midlands 172s in game which is annoying as they are pretty much local to me
when is the next Yawwie news Yawwie
Not any time soon lol
Yawwie you need to do another weathering mod please 😫
And Sam needs to make the Sound patch for these electrostars.
No and no
@@Yawwie love you too
Those motors do be sounding like brush 465s
11:50 This got me good lol
153 will probs be next
Just like how nobody asked for the electrostars, nobody asked for this video jk jk jk lmaoooo, this was pretty nice, everyone is money hungry tbh now and its pretty pathetic how armstrong got away with this bs like its fookin stupid
cLass 442 enhancement pack when ?
I know its not coming but come on it should still be better than thisb
Hi yawwie
fr though. Who wants a class 153 EP... Class 442 EP for me lol
701 entered service
If only the 378 was enhanced 😭 instead of this.
You mean 387?
@@Nice_Person7379 no 378
@@militarybandsOP ohh is it because the 378 and 376 sound is supposed to be one octave higher than the other electrostars and that there should also be a 376 in the game?
@@Nice_Person7379 no there isnt but people don't know that they run sometimes run between London Victoria and Orpington. But a new 378 is needed badly.
2:15 wait yaw you fucking didn't HAAHAHAHHA
He did xD
@Liam Moore did i ask?
@Liam Moore do I give a fuck?
It's now £19.99
10:46 🤣😂
Love the videos #Yawwie
1:05 lol
153
damn, just how expensive rushed content from ts is, £16 or probs £12470297340918821402149872109470219... then omsi bus simulator we get a whole new modeled accurate sounds bus is like £13
still i guess as said in the video it serves its purpose but rushed stuff should shouldnt be so damn expensive, and arsefuck studios decide to say "realistic" when using innaccurate models they didnt make
Every thing in the pack was almost a fail
165/166 DEFINITELY
Just realised
another one from 'richard': ua-cam.com/video/7o6T4eIG18c/v-deo.html
1:45
1:47
not as good as that ScoutZz guys video
1:48
1:34