Trail of Tears was more of a worst example of something that’d been occurring for 300 years and would continue up until the 1960’s in some manner. People will say slavery was worse and it really is more of a “Stalin or Hitler: Who was worse” kind of question. They’re both terrible and the victims of both shouldn’t be forgotten.
Yes Let LOVE AND PEACE LIVE IN ALL AND LET ALL NATIVES HAVE BACK ALL THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THEM...AND TRAIL OF TEARS,,,BE A PLACE HONORED AND RESPECTED. ASK NATIVE COUNCILS TO BE ON THAT TERRITORY. IT IS HOLY GROUNDS TO ALL PEOPLE. ESPECIAL NATIVES TOP PRIORITY. STOP THE MURDER HUNGER AND HATE ACTS❤❤❤
As a modern-day tribal member of the pokagon potowatomi. I can say we are headed nowhere but up. I've never known community like we have for our own. 15 years ago, there was nothing but single wide trailers for our administrators. With the casinos, we now have the ability to prosper and care for all our families. The grandfather was ripped away from his family with his brothers and sisters and taken to a boarding school. Their motto was literally "kill the indian, save the man" he escaped at such a young age and hopped a train to anywhere but there. We still do tours on those hallowed grounds. Such disgusting treatment of a great race of people. Ill leave this comment with some native language, some ojibwe. "Get make ma she na anwe e'bmadziyan" -doing poorly, yet still alive. Up until recent years. That was the way of life. Pay attention to history. It's important
Very Very Important. And Pray History Doesnt Repeat....Grant Love Peace Kindness Caring Sharing And Charity Expand❤❤❤ God And Spirits Be With You All And Us As One Nation Undivided. ❤❤❤ I Love You All❤❤❤❤
It’s funny to me, today, that a certain segment of American society bemoans the fact that this subject “could” be taught in public schools. That this material teaches young people to hate their country. It’s funny, because this material was taught and made available to me in the 1980s (4th, 5th, 7th and 8th grade). In Utah schools … a very conservative state. I remember feeling shame for certain acts of my ancestors … but more importantly, the tone from my teachers brought a desire to do better. Not to hate my country. But to LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES, DON’T FORGET, and DO BETTER. I will never understand how teaching and understanding our history (both the good and the bad) is evil for our country.
I remember a clip used in a segment of Last Week Tonight regarding education. A father at a meeting said he only wanted his kids to learn things that would make them feel good about being Americans. Apparently it’s too much for some people to realize this country has some dark chapters.
As a Cherokee, there were DOZENS of treaties, even Supreme Court rulings, that were totally ignored. Not to say it was worse than Hawaii, I’m not super familiar with that history? Just wanted to point out that not t abiding by treaties with indigenous peoples is a long and honored tradition.
it wasnt shameful. neither was the conquering of north america from the jndians. we need to conquer the rest of borth america. further what do you think would have happened to hawaii had the usa not cknquered it? it would have been conquered by the uk or japanese
3:05 - Chapter 1 - The civilized tribes & their unhappy neighbors 6:15 - Chapter 2 - A matter of policy 8:25 - Chapter 3 - Fighting back 10:55 - Chapter 4 - A trail of death & tears 13:45 - Chapter 5 - Aftermath 16:10 - Chapter 6 - Rebuilding what was lost 19:05 - Chapter 7 - The legacy of the trail 21:45 - Conclusion
Hey everyone! Scriptwriter Ben here, I hope this solemn video resonated with you in some way. If you'd like to learn more about the Trail of Tears, I'd highly recommending checking out "The Trail of Tears" by Gloria Jahoda, I relied on it heavily when writing about this topic. Thanks for watching!
This really was Americas biggest shame. The Indians that the government expelled were living no different than any other american in their communities. The indians were farmers and ranchers just like their white neighbors. They lived in the same kind of houses, shopped in the same stores, went to the same churches, had fought in the same wars. These expelled americans were no different than anyone else in their communities, except that they could be lumped into the catagory of "others" and taken advantage of by the greedy who wanted their land. And this is a lesson we must never forget.
Andrew Jackson was a member and leader of the slave owning aristocracy, composed of members who were committed in spreading the greediness, brutality, violence, maliciousness, and viciousness of slavery and its accompanying concentration csmps. Andrew Jackson brutally and viciously mistreated the African American people being held as prisoners inside the Hermitage, which was operated as an enforced slave labor prison concentration camp. He was also scared and frightened of the abolitionists. He should also be remembered for the widespread corruption of the federal government by instituting the Spoils System and causing a serious recession in the United System and pursuing an unjust war against Mexico for the purpose of spreading the greediness, violence, and brutality of slavery.
Please talk about Wounded Knee, Sand Creek, the Dakota 38, Boarding Schools/Residential Schools, Alcatraz Occupation or the California Genocide. These stories need to be told to the world, please.
What did the cotton gin have to do with this? The cotton gin vastly reduced the cost of removing seeds from cotton bolls. The demand for cotton shot up. But land was needed to grow that cotton. Hence the Trail of Tears. Then some bodies were needed to pick the cotton. Technology changes economics and the Economic Power Games.
This needs to go viral!!!! The truth needs to be told & people need to hear about the true suffering instead of trying to act like none of it happened.. They sugar-coated it when I was in school & I knew then that it was a bunch of bs they were trying to teach.. Thanks for telling the truth...
Since the beginning of time humans have fought for territory. The US isn't any different than any other country. I hate that people with less power aren't valued as much as the mighty dollar. I have studied this subject extensively and its horrific on all sides. The government took money from immigrants to go homestead in land that really wasn't theirs, these immigrants rarely knew what was coming for them when they started building their farms. The natives were brutal and the government was brutal and the immigrants were right in the middle. Part of this problem was that the eastern states were funding the new states, roads, towns, etc. and it was unsustainable. So the government decided that they would take more and more land, especially when gold was found. Such an interesting topic and there really is no way to blame anyone but the rich eastern white men
This was a much needed look into this. It would be great if you could talk about Tecumseh and Mad Anthony Wayne. That is another story that should be known to the wider world.
This is something that everyone needs to see!! Utterly shameful and despicable behaviour!!! 😢 the federal government still doesn't treat the native Americans horribly 😢😢😮
The United States has to date not undertaken any truth commission nor built a memorial for the genocide of Indigenous people. It does not acknowledge nor compensate for the historical violence against Native Americans that occurred during territorial expansion to the West Coast. American museums such as the Smithsonian Institution do not dedicate a section to the genocide. In 2013 the National Congress of American Indians passed a resolution to create space for the National American Indian Holocaust Museum inside the Smithsonian, but it was ignored by the latter.
They say it was because they found silver in George, but this all came down when Sequoyah born around 1770 at Tuskegee, Cherokee Nationnear where Knoxville, Tennessee is now translated Cherokee from English. Not only that, he translated the King James Holy Bible into the Native Cherokee Language in about one month. It instilled a ton of fear into white European Christians who did not practice the truth.
Well yeah, kid lol. None of us, nor our parents nor grandparents were even alive for this 😂😂 My family didn’t even immigrate here until the 20th century lol. I owe nothing to a single Indian. “Sins of the father” is some primitive barbar nonsense…which I guess should be expected from the reds lol. PRIMITIVE. Move on. Go enjoy free college and a booming nation! Yall ain’t trying to chase the Buffalo anyway 😂
Why should they? None of us had any part in it and land is a finite resource. I have Pamunkey Indian ancestors and they assimilated into extinction generations ago by marrying German and Irish settlers. No genocide required and their decedents are doing well for themselves. Significantly better than the NA's that refused to adapt to a changing World.
New people that come to America, generally, do not seem to show any interest in American indigenous people and civilizations, and no sympathy towards them. Thomas Paine wrote the following. "Land, as before said, is the free gift of the Creator in common to the human race. Personal property is the effect of society; and it is as impossible for an individual to acquire personal property without the aid of society, as it is for him to make land originally."
i mean...we had slavery too. other countries had their atrocities through-out history as well. i feel like they're all horrid and not one is worse than the other. when it comes to being a tragedy that is. i just feel like america gets beat up more for its history than other countries and i think its because out of all the countries in the world, america is the "youngest" seeing that it was founded in 1492 and then colonized and eventually civilized. america was 1776. thats sooo young for a country to be formed. look at how old england is. when did THEY form? they've been around way longer and have conquered way more lands and had way more horrid and tragic history than america. i feel like people make what happened in america such a big deal because it only "recently" happened in our history. where we are in american history is like where england was with medieval times or something. we didn't experience those times so those tragedies dont affect us as much. plus they were also way further away in time which is also a factor. its the diff between a healed wound thats now a scar and a wound that's just starting to crust over. we're coming to a time in americas history where we're starting to delete history to make a new narrative and it makes me wonder....how many times has it happened before? is what we ever learn the truth? the people who lived in those times know what happened but no one else will unless the truth is always kept the truth. but theres always someone who comes along to make themselves or their people oor culture or country look better than they really are.
The British empire had a far bigger area and directly ruled a quarter of the world in the 19th century. Virtually all modern systems from the rule of law to the railways come from that influence.
Trail of cheers is more like it! You know Florida is home to more wet t-shirt contest than anywhere else on earth! Plus does anyone here feel bad for the East Prussians who were kicked out of the homeland after WW2 (I also don't)?
Here's a fun fact not mentioned in the teary video: All of these tribes, with the possible exception of the Seminoles, were slave holders of Black slaves. In fact, they took their slaves with them. For a while after the Civil War, they kept their slaves because the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to US territory, which didn't include Indian land. Later, the lands became valuable because of oil wells. The Blacks started suing, claiming they were Indians and rated some of the oil money; the Indians fought the law suits. Eventually, after a half century or so, the Blacks won.
@@archstanton6102 Indians have a very long history of slavery of other Indians, though the slaves Media tastefully calls the slaves “captives.” But the 5 tribes were very much into Black slavery. Here are a few links. Just do a Google search on any of these titles: Web Search - Cherokee Slave Owners Web Search - Native American Slave Owners Native American Slave Owners - Wikipedia Native American Slave Owners - Smithsonian Native American Slave Ownership - Splinter Native Americans Slave Owners - The Imagantive Conservative Slave revolt on Indian Land When Tribal Nations Expel Their Black Members | The New Yorker Incidentally, the 5 Tribes didn’t walk all the way to Oklahoma. Most of them traveled by steamboat for the bulk of the journey. Many died, but it was usually due to disease, which Whites had no control over.
In the grand scheme of things, that is a minor footnote if true. The tone of the rest of this comment makes it sound like this is supposed to be a justification? It's not. It's really not.
@Talisguy Enslaving Blacks is a minor footnote in the grand scheme of things? I'd recommend you share that opinion with you Black pals. Sorry you don't care for my tone.
It's one of the most, but not the least. The nuking of two cities during WW2 was another. The trail of tears always got to me. The same comment keeps popping up in my head of “What the heck is wrong with people.”
Totally different situations. The 2 Atomic bombs were during war time after Japan had been the agressor AND inflicted genocide on the Chinese at Nanjing. Also used chemical weapons in China.
sorry the people of scotland and ireland was originaly slave then were sent against there wish due to famine and clearences they never went for power but when then as poor displaced people forcibly removed from there ancient lands so whe they go there they fought
You had us up to “Greatest Shame” Tell that to the natives of Mexico, Guam, Marshall Islands, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. The American Natives were forced away from their land, forced to assimilate to Eurocentrics and were physically and culturally killed to wipe out their mark engraved in this land. That is a great shame indeed, but is not morally considered any greater than any other American atrocities. African Americans who were enslaved to physical labor and torment to build this country and its economy never received protected lands or any incentives to help build and restore their culture. They were subjected to torture and inhumane practices to further the advancement of American medicine and were not even considered human just less than 100 years ago. Great video to bring awareness to the Natives suffering but let’s not compare and contrast everyone who were (and still are being) affected by America’s shame. Also, for accuracy in history, this video needs to include how the natives owned enslaved African Americans to work their lands as well. Otherwise, informative video.
I wish to offer constructive criticism 😀 (because I think you, Ms. Harris, and that Sheffield dude that keeps playing Metal Gear Revengeance, Snarl Largesteel or something, are doing fantastic) You gesticulate a lot, which is fine, but let your brain drive, not your nerves, Mr. E => (you look nervous, it might be the fun juice, which is also fine, just be mindful) Keep the ending-bit where you you say you'll see us next time, space cowboy - that is an Eric Malikyte calling-card now, I noticed you haven't referred to yourself as a cosmic-horror-madman in the last few episode intros I've watched
Crazy to me that as an Irish person I’ve only heard about the trail of tears THIS year. American loves to cause massive tragedies and then pretend nothing happens. Country of freedom? You’re lying to yourselves. The Chocataw people donated food to the Irish in the 1800’s while we were suffering from the famine(genocide). There will always be love and respect between the both of us.
Had to be done. What gets lost in the story are the consequences that would have befallen the United States had Jackson allowed them to stay in Georgia and other parts of the country. At that point in time, the Nullification Crisis between South Carolina and the federal government was threatening to rip the country in two and Georgia was threatening to fight federal troops if they were sent in to enforce the Supreme Court's decision in Worcester vs. Georgia. It was either civil war or Cherokee removal. Jackson went with what he thought was the lesser of two evils. It's not always black and white.
There was bigger consequences from joining WW2 than any civil war at that point in time. What your morality then supposes is that US was morally wrong to join fight against the Axis. Lesser of two evils.
I do not feel shame for something that happened long before I was born and have no responsibility in nor do I fall for the fallacy that you can go back in history and apply current societal norms to what was done in the past.
First of all, there is a difference between personal responsibility/guilt and a collective (you might say national) responsibility/guilt. No one says that YOU should feel personally responsible for what happened. The expectation is that we as US citizens, regardless of our skin color or family history, can acknowledge a national responsibility which justifies a national form of indemnification. Secondly, almost all US citizens at that time were church-going Christians. The ethical norms of practicing Christians is to treat others as one would wish to be treated. Christ's "golden rule." So it is clear that these American officials were choosing to defy their code of ethics in pursuit of material gain, resulting in horrific human suffering.
@@harrisonbergeron9764 with the lack of attention these dark pages in USA history get you are pretty quick to calling even the slightest info ‘dwelling in it’ bit of a weird attitude.
@@abbofun9022 People tend to use historical events as a cudgel and not as a learning experience. There is nothing a bit weird to not want to be hit over the head again and again with something I have zero responsibility for.
There are truly a mountain of things we all admire the US for, and that they are leaders/pioneers in. Unfortunately the US is also a true pioneer in a majority of the world's true ills and horrors. ms The persecution/genocide of Native Americans by white settlers was in percentage terms in the same ballpark as the Holocaust...THE HOLOCAUST!!! Let that sink in. (In both cases, the societies involved suffered population reduction of over 90%)
The guy who owned this channel and a few others Simon hosted died. His daughter took over. She had an issue with Simon so he stopped hosting her channels.
@@sid06 Name any of them and there's most likely a period of time during their history where they were, going all the way back to Rome and probably even further.
Dude did simon's channels get hacked? I am really not intrested in watching Geographics without Simon whistler, and based on the amount of views on this video, neither is anyone else.
@@archstanton6102 Africa is a mess due to tribalism. The tribes couldn't form effective resistance because they were too busy fighting amongst themselves. How does that not make sense to you?
@@Noah_E Now you have added some context it makes sense. As long as they had remained totally isolated from the rest of the planet, and there was no clonisation of either north or south america. Totally logical. The tribes were peaceful enough to have built cities at Povery Point and Cahokia. They did not have firearms and were naive enough to believe the continual lies of treaties. Africa is a mess due to colonialism and the 1885 Berlin Treaty on how the continent was divided up.
You make it sound as if the only reason there was conflict was white racism. I always find it intriguing how these videos leave out the inter-tribal conflicts and brutal attacks on white settlers. Oh, the whole small problem that is was disease that wiped out 90% of the native population, not violence. Your omissions amount to propaganda. If you're going to try to educate people, at least tell all sides of the story. THUMBS DOWN
Trail of Tears was more of a worst example of something that’d been occurring for 300 years and would continue up until the 1960’s in some manner. People will say slavery was worse and it really is more of a “Stalin or Hitler: Who was worse” kind of question. They’re both terrible and the victims of both shouldn’t be forgotten.
stalin was worse
legit the government was secretly sterilizing native people in the late 1900s they are probably still doing it tbh or some other fucked up shit
As a Cherokee/choctaw citizen. Thank you for making this. There is a lot of history that they have either never taught or don’t tech anymore.
Yes Let LOVE AND PEACE LIVE IN ALL AND LET ALL NATIVES HAVE BACK ALL THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THEM...AND TRAIL OF TEARS,,,BE A PLACE HONORED AND RESPECTED. ASK NATIVE COUNCILS TO BE ON THAT TERRITORY. IT IS HOLY GROUNDS TO ALL PEOPLE. ESPECIAL NATIVES TOP PRIORITY. STOP THE MURDER HUNGER AND HATE ACTS❤❤❤
As a modern-day tribal member of the pokagon potowatomi. I can say we are headed nowhere but up. I've never known community like we have for our own. 15 years ago, there was nothing but single wide trailers for our administrators. With the casinos, we now have the ability to prosper and care for all our families. The grandfather was ripped away from his family with his brothers and sisters and taken to a boarding school. Their motto was literally "kill the indian, save the man" he escaped at such a young age and hopped a train to anywhere but there. We still do tours on those hallowed grounds. Such disgusting treatment of a great race of people. Ill leave this comment with some native language, some ojibwe. "Get make ma she na anwe e'bmadziyan" -doing poorly, yet still alive. Up until recent years. That was the way of life. Pay attention to history. It's important
what state/ county do you reside in. St. Joseph?
why even call your self american that i find to much your not be who you are very strange why yous all still affiliate as an american
@@darranwilkins4648 Wow. You are terribly ignorant. 1st grade much?
Very Very Important. And Pray History Doesnt Repeat....Grant Love Peace Kindness Caring Sharing And Charity Expand❤❤❤ God And Spirits Be With You All And Us As One Nation Undivided. ❤❤❤ I Love You All❤❤❤❤
@@americanjones2380Montana Is St. JOSEPH❤❤❤
It’s funny to me, today, that a certain segment of American society bemoans the fact that this subject “could” be taught in public schools. That this material teaches young people to hate their country.
It’s funny, because this material was taught and made available to me in the 1980s (4th, 5th, 7th and 8th grade). In Utah schools … a very conservative state. I remember feeling shame for certain acts of my ancestors … but more importantly, the tone from my teachers brought a desire to do better. Not to hate my country. But to LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES, DON’T FORGET, and DO BETTER. I will never understand how teaching and understanding our history (both the good and the bad) is evil for our country.
Came to make this comment.
I remember a clip used in a segment of Last Week Tonight regarding education. A father at a meeting said he only wanted his kids to learn things that would make them feel good about being Americans. Apparently it’s too much for some people to realize this country has some dark chapters.
I thought it was more important to get transgender rights and other psychopath lefty agendas into the class rooms of America these days? No?
I wish everyone in this country could read this comment
There are some people out there that like to pretend our shit doesn't stink and that pointing out our problematic past will inspire irrational hatred.
Don't forget the over throw of the Kingdom of Hawaii...you want shame...try having a treaty, that was worthless.
As a Cherokee, there were DOZENS of treaties, even Supreme Court rulings, that were totally ignored.
Not to say it was worse than Hawaii, I’m not super familiar with that history? Just wanted to point out that not t abiding by treaties with indigenous peoples is a long and honored tradition.
@@lyamainu A pleasure to "meet" you! Correct it still "is a long and honored tradition".
it wasnt shameful. neither was the conquering of north america from the jndians. we need to conquer the rest of borth america. further what do you think would have happened to hawaii had the usa not cknquered it? it would have been conquered by the uk or japanese
Not really, us Hawaiians would have been taken over by another country anyways.
@@TomokoPlaysGameshawain kingdom was pretty strong .the zulus kingdom the Cherokee neyion all ward with whites.all were nice n generous at first...
Excellent video, as ever. But this one was definitely more important than the average video. Thank you for bringing this injustice to light.
3:05 - Chapter 1 - The civilized tribes & their unhappy neighbors
6:15 - Chapter 2 - A matter of policy
8:25 - Chapter 3 - Fighting back
10:55 - Chapter 4 - A trail of death & tears
13:45 - Chapter 5 - Aftermath
16:10 - Chapter 6 - Rebuilding what was lost
19:05 - Chapter 7 - The legacy of the trail
21:45 - Conclusion
Hey everyone! Scriptwriter Ben here, I hope this solemn video resonated with you in some way. If you'd like to learn more about the Trail of Tears, I'd highly recommending checking out "The Trail of Tears" by Gloria Jahoda, I relied on it heavily when writing about this topic. Thanks for watching!
This really was Americas biggest shame. The Indians that the government expelled were living no different than any other american in their communities. The indians were farmers and ranchers just like their white neighbors. They lived in the same kind of houses, shopped in the same stores, went to the same churches, had fought in the same wars. These expelled americans were no different than anyone else in their communities, except that they could be lumped into the catagory of "others" and taken advantage of by the greedy who wanted their land. And this is a lesson we must never forget.
I remember reading the story about this a few years ago and it brought me to tears...amazing video
Thanks For this eric! Love your content❤❤❤❤
Andrew Jackson was a member and leader of the slave owning aristocracy, composed of members who were committed in spreading the greediness, brutality, violence, maliciousness, and viciousness of slavery and its accompanying concentration csmps. Andrew Jackson brutally and viciously mistreated the African American people being held as prisoners inside the Hermitage, which was operated as an enforced slave labor prison concentration camp. He was also scared and frightened of the abolitionists. He should also be remembered for the widespread corruption of the federal government by instituting the Spoils System and causing a serious recession in the United System and pursuing an unjust war against Mexico for the purpose of spreading the greediness, violence, and brutality of slavery.
Please talk about Wounded Knee, Sand Creek, the Dakota 38, Boarding Schools/Residential Schools, Alcatraz Occupation or the California Genocide. These stories need to be told to the world, please.
Geographics did a video on Wounded Knee late last year, I also wrote the script for that one.
Everybody needs to hear this story. Never forget .
What did the cotton gin have to do with this?
The cotton gin vastly reduced the cost of removing seeds from cotton bolls. The demand for cotton shot up. But land was needed to grow that cotton.
Hence the Trail of Tears. Then some bodies were needed to pick the cotton.
Technology changes economics and the Economic Power Games.
This needs to go viral!!!! The truth needs to be told & people need to hear about the true suffering instead of trying to act like none of it happened.. They sugar-coated it when I was in school & I knew then that it was a bunch of bs they were trying to teach.. Thanks for telling the truth...
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many tribes are in poverty / extreme poverty / discrimination continues openly!
Same with blacks. My ancestors and Native American have different but similar stories while whites walk around very privileged still in this country
Since the beginning of time humans have fought for territory. The US isn't any different than any other country. I hate that people with less power aren't valued as much as the mighty dollar. I have studied this subject extensively and its horrific on all sides. The government took money from immigrants to go homestead in land that really wasn't theirs, these immigrants rarely knew what was coming for them when they started building their farms. The natives were brutal and the government was brutal and the immigrants were right in the middle. Part of this problem was that the eastern states were funding the new states, roads, towns, etc. and it was unsustainable. So the government decided that they would take more and more land, especially when gold was found. Such an interesting topic and there really is no way to blame anyone but the rich eastern white men
“One of the worst” is not something we hear often enough
Truth though 😔❤
This was a much needed look into this. It would be great if you could talk about Tecumseh and Mad Anthony Wayne. That is another story that should be known to the wider world.
Very glad to see Jade. I'm sad that I'm seeing the stupidity that lead to the trail of tears rising again.
Jade might not be in as many videos going forward. :( She's gone blind and we're trying to figure out why.
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This is something that everyone needs to see!! Utterly shameful and despicable behaviour!!! 😢 the federal government still doesn't treat the native Americans horribly 😢😢😮
The United States has to date not undertaken any truth commission nor built a memorial for the genocide of Indigenous people. It does not acknowledge nor compensate for the historical violence against Native Americans that occurred during territorial expansion to the West Coast. American museums such as the Smithsonian Institution do not dedicate a section to the genocide. In 2013 the National Congress of American Indians passed a resolution to create space for the National American Indian Holocaust Museum inside the Smithsonian, but it was ignored by the latter.
Maybe you could do a video like this for the First Nations of Australia and the Ainu in Japan.
They say it was because they found silver in George, but this all came down when Sequoyah born around 1770
at Tuskegee, Cherokee Nationnear where Knoxville, Tennessee is now translated Cherokee from English. Not only that, he translated the King James Holy Bible into the Native Cherokee Language in about one month. It instilled a ton of fear into white European Christians who did not practice the truth.
the cat in the background: what a wacky and bizarre story
I have always been so sympathetic with native americans…
And now i am getting married to one of them 🙈🙈🙈
Good luck!! High rates of domestic abuse on most reservations..
@@jimjohnson4072 he isn't from a reservation. An amazing man…
@@jimjohnson4072 Do you have a source for this?
History never repeats itself, but it often rhymes.
If it's indelible, it doesn't wash off. But it is history.
Post civil war treatment of western plains people is just as shameful.
Regret is a strong word
I dont think most americans give a single fuck about their past atrocities
Well yeah, kid lol. None of us, nor our parents nor grandparents were even alive for this 😂😂 My family didn’t even immigrate here until the 20th century lol. I owe nothing to a single Indian. “Sins of the father” is some primitive barbar nonsense…which I guess should be expected from the reds lol. PRIMITIVE. Move on. Go enjoy free college and a booming nation! Yall ain’t trying to chase the Buffalo anyway 😂
They don't care about current ones.
Why should they? None of us had any part in it and land is a finite resource. I have Pamunkey Indian ancestors and they assimilated into extinction generations ago by marrying German and Irish settlers. No genocide required and their decedents are doing well for themselves. Significantly better than the NA's that refused to adapt to a changing World.
@@Noah_E true, they should've just left, amiright lmao
@@Noah_E Ah, so it should be forgotten then. That's so that your future generations can use that as an excuse for doing it again, right?
We shouldn't have treated the natives so badly. It's shameful.
Thank you.
Truth and Reconciliation
Slavery was worst. Atleast they had an opportunity to fight while being in better environmental conditions than slaves esp ones on slave ships
And people say Columbus was such a terrible person
New people that come to America, generally, do not seem to show any interest in American indigenous people and civilizations, and no sympathy towards them.
Thomas Paine wrote the following.
"Land, as before said, is the free gift of the Creator in common to the human race. Personal property is the effect of society; and it is as impossible for an individual to acquire personal property without the aid of society, as it is for him to make land originally."
The whole story is important; including the forced removal of native nations by the Mohawks!!
pretty much same thing happened in canada :(
i mean...we had slavery too. other countries had their atrocities through-out history as well. i feel like they're all horrid and not one is worse than the other. when it comes to being a tragedy that is. i just feel like america gets beat up more for its history than other countries and i think its because out of all the countries in the world, america is the "youngest" seeing that it was founded in 1492 and then colonized and eventually civilized. america was 1776. thats sooo young for a country to be formed.
look at how old england is. when did THEY form? they've been around way longer and have conquered way more lands and had way more horrid and tragic history than america.
i feel like people make what happened in america such a big deal because it only "recently" happened in our history. where we are in american history is like where england was with medieval times or something. we didn't experience those times so those tragedies dont affect us as much. plus they were also way further away in time which is also a factor.
its the diff between a healed wound thats now a scar and a wound that's just starting to crust over.
we're coming to a time in americas history where we're starting to delete history to make a new narrative and it makes me wonder....how many times has it happened before? is what we ever learn the truth? the people who lived in those times know what happened but no one else will unless the truth is always kept the truth. but theres always someone who comes along to make themselves or their people oor culture or country look better than they really are.
The British empire had a far bigger area and directly ruled a quarter of the world in the 19th century. Virtually all modern systems from the rule of law to the railways come from that influence.
12:13 what's with the ak?
You stand in the presence of a native American 🇺🇸 6:59 now what
Trail of cheers is more like it! You know Florida is home to more wet t-shirt contest than anywhere else on earth! Plus does anyone here feel bad for the East Prussians who were kicked out of the homeland after WW2 (I also don't)?
Here's a fun fact not mentioned in the teary video: All of these tribes, with the possible exception of the Seminoles, were slave holders of Black slaves. In fact, they took their slaves with them. For a while after the Civil War, they kept their slaves because the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to US territory, which didn't include Indian land.
Later, the lands became valuable because of oil wells. The Blacks started suing, claiming they were Indians and rated some of the oil money; the Indians fought the law suits. Eventually, after a half century or so, the Blacks won.
Do you have a source for this? I woukd like to read more.
Bingo! This is usually missing from history.
@@archstanton6102 Indians have a very long history of slavery of other Indians, though the slaves Media tastefully calls the slaves “captives.” But the 5 tribes were very much into Black slavery. Here are a few links. Just do a Google search on any of these titles:
Web Search - Cherokee Slave Owners
Web Search - Native American Slave Owners
Native American Slave Owners - Wikipedia
Native American Slave Owners - Smithsonian
Native American Slave Ownership - Splinter
Native Americans Slave Owners - The Imagantive Conservative
Slave revolt on Indian Land
When Tribal Nations Expel Their Black Members | The New Yorker
Incidentally, the 5 Tribes didn’t walk all the way to Oklahoma. Most of them traveled by steamboat for the bulk of the journey. Many died, but it was usually due to disease, which Whites had no control over.
In the grand scheme of things, that is a minor footnote if true. The tone of the rest of this comment makes it sound like this is supposed to be a justification? It's not. It's really not.
@Talisguy Enslaving Blacks is a minor footnote in the grand scheme of things? I'd recommend you share that opinion with you Black pals. Sorry you don't care for my tone.
It is Written White Man, now many MEM
"Greatest regret?" More than slavery? No. But yes, Europeans have much to answer for. Regret will merely be the beginning.
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My native name is udom
What gives?! This guy isn’t bald or British?!
What happened to Simon?????????
He's been gone for over a year. Try to keep up.
Leftenant colonel, nowhere near a General
It's one of the most, but not the least. The nuking of two cities during WW2 was another. The trail of tears always got to me. The same comment keeps popping up in my head of “What the heck is wrong with people.”
Totally different situations. The 2 Atomic bombs were during war time after Japan had been the agressor AND inflicted genocide on the Chinese at Nanjing. Also used chemical weapons in China.
sorry the people of scotland and ireland was originaly slave then were sent against there wish due to famine and clearences they never went for power but when then as poor displaced people forcibly removed from there ancient lands so whe they go there they fought
You had us up to “Greatest Shame” Tell that to the natives of Mexico, Guam, Marshall Islands, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. The American Natives were forced away from their land, forced to assimilate to Eurocentrics and were physically and culturally killed to wipe out their mark engraved in this land. That is a great shame indeed, but is not morally considered any greater than any other American atrocities. African Americans who were enslaved to physical labor and torment to build this country and its economy never received protected lands or any incentives to help build and restore their culture. They were subjected to torture and inhumane practices to further the advancement of American medicine and were not even considered human just less than 100 years ago. Great video to bring awareness to the Natives suffering but let’s not compare and contrast everyone who were (and still are being) affected by America’s shame. Also, for accuracy in history, this video needs to include how the natives owned enslaved African Americans to work their lands as well. Otherwise, informative video.
Let's also address the problem of native women going missing and no one seems to care. Still.
I haven't got 1 minute into this and already my tears might flood the whole Mississipiee .
Please bring back Simon.
Where he at?
He's left over a year ago and doesn't want to come back. If you want to complain at someone, complain at him instead of this channel.
Please stop trolling.
I mean if the native Americans could have united they may have had a chance….but they all hated each other so it is what it is.
You know the talk about the plight of native Americans but never the slaves they took with them.
Might want to check yourself there. There's plenty of talk about the slaves and their plight
I wish to offer constructive criticism 😀 (because I think you, Ms. Harris, and that Sheffield dude that keeps playing Metal Gear Revengeance, Snarl Largesteel or something, are doing fantastic)
You gesticulate a lot, which is fine, but let your brain drive, not your nerves, Mr. E =>
(you look nervous, it might be the fun juice, which is also fine, just be mindful)
Keep the ending-bit where you you say you'll see us next time, space cowboy - that is an Eric Malikyte calling-card now, I noticed you haven't referred to yourself as a cosmic-horror-madman in the last few episode intros I've watched
Crazy to me that as an Irish person I’ve only heard about the trail of tears THIS year. American loves to cause massive tragedies and then pretend nothing happens. Country of freedom? You’re lying to yourselves.
The Chocataw people donated food to the Irish in the 1800’s while we were suffering from the famine(genocide). There will always be love and respect between the both of us.
The natives on the trail brought their African slaves with them... Don't let them make you feel bad about your people
Source?
@@archstanton6102 just ask Google "where their slaves on the trail of tears"
Had to be done. What gets lost in the story are the consequences that would have befallen the United States had Jackson allowed them to stay in Georgia and other parts of the country. At that point in time, the Nullification Crisis between South Carolina and the federal government was threatening to rip the country in two and Georgia was threatening to fight federal troops if they were sent in to enforce the Supreme Court's decision in Worcester vs. Georgia. It was either civil war or Cherokee removal. Jackson went with what he thought was the lesser of two evils. It's not always black and white.
There was bigger consequences from joining WW2 than any civil war at that point in time. What your morality then supposes is that US was morally wrong to join fight against the Axis. Lesser of two evils.
Regret..? Doesn't look like that when you look at the middle east nowadays..
Show me a country that wasn’t founded
By force
*should be their national shame. Unfortauntely millions revel in it to this day.
I didn't listen to this. Does it mention The thousands of African American slaves that the Indians owned and had carry their belongings West.
National shame episode 15 of 698609
I do not feel shame for something that happened long before I was born and have no responsibility in nor do I fall for the fallacy that you can go back in history and apply current societal norms to what was done in the past.
At least you could acknowledge it and not shrug it off as you seem to be doing as that’s not very respectful.
@@abbofun9022 We need to learn from history not dwell on it.
First of all, there is a difference between personal responsibility/guilt and a collective (you might say national) responsibility/guilt. No one says that YOU should feel personally responsible for what happened. The expectation is that we as US citizens, regardless of our skin color or family history, can acknowledge a national responsibility which justifies a national form of indemnification.
Secondly, almost all US citizens at that time were church-going Christians. The ethical norms of practicing Christians is to treat others as one would wish to be treated. Christ's "golden rule." So it is clear that these American officials were choosing to defy their code of ethics in pursuit of material gain, resulting in horrific human suffering.
@@harrisonbergeron9764 with the lack of attention these dark pages in USA history get you are pretty quick to calling even the slightest info ‘dwelling in it’ bit of a weird attitude.
@@abbofun9022 People tend to use historical events as a cudgel and not as a learning experience. There is nothing a bit weird to not want to be hit over the head again and again with something I have zero responsibility for.
Reminds me of what the Maori did to the original natives of New Zealand
There are truly a mountain of things we all admire the US for, and that they are leaders/pioneers in. Unfortunately the US is also a true pioneer in a majority of the world's true ills and horrors. ms
The persecution/genocide of Native Americans by white settlers was in percentage terms in the same ballpark as the Holocaust...THE HOLOCAUST!!! Let that sink in. (In both cases, the societies involved suffered population reduction of over 90%)
i know a dirty little secret about israel too. and africa aswell.
You seem pretty arrogant, my guy. It's not what you say it's how you say it.
The guy who owned this channel and a few others Simon hosted died. His daughter took over. She had an issue with Simon so he stopped hosting her channels.
Dane - you keep crying about the new hosts. But you keep coming back to watch. Pathetic.
SAY NO TO MASS DEPORTATION! KAMALA 2024!
Come legally and there wouldn’t be a problem
access to white people is not a right
Something I've never understood. If history is written by the victor, why is it called the trail of tears. There weren't any white people crying.
Natives took it the same way, being in perpetual war among themselves, and didn't use it to establish a superior political system for the individual.
They weren't in "perpetual" war with each other any more than the Europeans were at "perpetual" war with each other.
@@resileaf9501 Which European nation was equivalent to the Apaches etc. in terms of battle frequency?
@@sid06 Name any of them and there's most likely a period of time during their history where they were, going all the way back to Rome and probably even further.
@@resileaf9501 Vikings or Vandals lived similarly, but the _nations_ are what started civilized life.
@@sid06 Way to ignore that the Natives had advanced nations of their own.
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More Democrat, foreign and domestic policy at its finest
Where is bald man
Dude did simon's channels get hacked? I am really not intrested in watching Geographics without Simon whistler, and based on the amount of views on this video, neither is anyone else.
Simon left of his own will over a year ago. Try to keep up.
imagine indians still had their land. america would be africa.
That makes no sense at all.
@@archstanton6102 Africa is a mess due to tribalism. The tribes couldn't form effective resistance because they were too busy fighting amongst themselves. How does that not make sense to you?
@@Noah_E Now you have added some context it makes sense. As long as they had remained totally isolated from the rest of the planet, and there was no clonisation of either north or south america. Totally logical.
The tribes were peaceful enough to have built cities at Povery Point and Cahokia. They did not have firearms and were naive enough to believe the continual lies of treaties.
Africa is a mess due to colonialism and the 1885 Berlin Treaty on how the continent was divided up.
Still no Karl with a “K”….
Going to unsubscribe soon….
Karl has gone. Not coming back. So unsubscribe and move on.
Karl doesn't want to host anymore. It was too stressful for him. He prefers writing.
The tribal societies destiny was to be conquered.
Is this rage bait? Because it's not very good
@@Demonic_Tang Just another ignorant troll, desperate for attention, as they got none as an unloved child.
You make it sound as if the only reason there was conflict was white racism. I always find it intriguing how these videos leave out the inter-tribal conflicts and brutal attacks on white settlers. Oh, the whole small problem that is was disease that wiped out 90% of the native population, not violence. Your omissions amount to propaganda. If you're going to try to educate people, at least tell all sides of the story. THUMBS DOWN
Yet there is a segment of people and politicians who revere Jackson as a President.
So we are just going to slide 🛝 right over the slavery part, like it never happened or is not as important as the Trail ofTears?🙄
The whole story is important; including the forced removal of native nations by the Mohawks!!