I haven't kept up with your videos in months. Returning to them now with this one, and your writing continues to absolutely floor me. You just nail these huge, dramatic ideas with simple to follow yet wistfully poetic language. The phone call interlude-segue at 1:25 was so heartwarming. Thank you.
@@jimj2683😅 you obviously don't know Bryan then. I honestly haven't seen this content creator linking to a paid content site is so far different to a wannabe cult leader shilling overpriced olive oil, supplements, merchandise, food products and motivational seminars you're actually making a fool of yourself publicly with your comments 😅
For the love of your sanity you need to find a different path of thought. I just breezed through your history and everything is so negative, if you look for the bad you will find it. The same goes for the reciprocal, also you have a very condescending frame of view which I just can't see as healthy. I don't mean this as an assault to your being but hopefully as enough of a shock to provoke some introspection as to why you are in such a seemingly painful state of being. Sitting in silence and solitude for 30mins every now and then may do you some good as it did for me.
@@ChrisLeeW00 this, but unironically. Sign of high IQ + at least trying to lead a healthy, disciplined life Now compare vs. morning routines of sad, sick, depressed masses.
@@Adam-rf5xpthose "low-iq" working masses are depressed because they're forced to live in the world your beloved supermen profited off the creation of.
@@Adam-rf5xp Having a routine, sure that's healthy. Having an obsession with how you look and every single aspect of your health? Not healthy. Seems like you missed the point of the comment and joke 🤓 ☝🏽
Wait, so you're telling me this guy is obscenely wealthy, can't go outside during the day, obsesses about his own mortality and steals blood from people. Are you sure you haven't got him confused with count Dracula?
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'brians relationship to science is not that of a scientist' is absolutely true. He does not want to find out how things work, he wants for the things he wishes for to become true.
"he wants for the things he wishes for to become true." so does literally every human on earth. Surley you're not implying that wishing for something to be true, and trying to make it true is wrong? And btw scientists aren't just absolutely curious mindless robots, go ask any scientist "whats your goal" and they'll tell you "to make the world a better place"
@@alexmendenhall5416 they're not making claims of right and wrong, just pointing out that he's not a scientist (which i agree). Scientists wish to illuminate the nature & processes of the world, engineers apply these insights to optimize and achieve some goal, and businessmen commodify these solutions for selfish gain. Brian seems far more obsessed with the goal and the aesthetics of science than the actual processes that make it possible, which plants him firmly in the business camp
@@allanchon1361 yes Bryan Johnson is doing what he does for selfish gain, I know, I just literally said that in my last comment. What I’m asking is that is it wrong for a person to selfishly want to live longer? Businessman or scientist. Also most scientists are not curiosity motivated, but profit motivated. We would never study anything if there was nothing gain from knowing anything.
Former Mormon here. I'd like to reinforce what you said about the psychological toll of losing faith in the afterlife. Because Mormon's conception of the afterlife is philosophically similar to the life we live on earth (learning, changing, and growing), you never have to fear death. The moment you begin to doubt your beliefs is the first moment you have to grapple with death. It's a jarring experience to have, and at the same moment you're losing your community. Thanks for talking about it with empathy.
My father lost his mormon faith deep into his life. Sadly, he also had a near death experience shortly after duri g cover, so yeah, that's a difficult thing to deal with
I was raised Catholic. It took me longer to come to grips with finality than my entire life beforehand, up to and including the day I was born and the day I finally started to think about death. The overwhelming, suffocating dread that I felt when I was ~15-16 years old couldn't possibly compare to what a former mormon missionary who left in his mid 20s must have gone through.
The afterlife, according to the Abrahamic religions, is stagnation. No change. Forever frozen. Forever stuck. I am not really sure what kind of mental gymnastics one has to make to convince themselves otherwise but if one believes in anything but the eternal stagnation, then whatever they believe, no longer has anything to do with any of the Abrahamic religions. To the point that it veers into open fanficitaion... sorry, different sects of these religions. One can veer into the very reasonable argument of "literally each of those religions are pure imagination and make-believe", which is objectively true but it is a bit jarring to me how little any of this is even discussed, yet alone acknowledged.
It's very telling that the slogan is "don't die" instead of "stay alive" because the objective isn't to live and enjoy a long healthy and fulfilling life, but to simple "not die" at all costs
the slogan "stay alive" doesn't work because its subjective , (stay alive for how much) but "don't die" does not have this problem , you can easily measure if a person is alive or not , you are either alive or not .
@@vkpfp0kx1flmwmygit's building community, and that's most human thing we can do. It's important especially for me, queer person from country where being gay is illegal so non respectfully stfu
Blame millennial highly vocal and opinionated politicaly interested people. They turned social discussion into power wars. It shuts down open communication which in turn locks people into their own little bubbles. Free speech is required for free discussion which is required for authenticity which is required for interest in others.
what's weird about an experimental therapy? he's experimenting, he didn't do it for teh lulz. when the data showed that it didn't work for him, he stopped.
@@strangejune yes, experimenting is a core concept in what this dude's doing. do you happen to know a-priori which mechanisms may have which effects without experimenting? this is how empirical understanding progresses. the kneejerk response of 'ewwy yucky, omg he's so weird and different' and inferring from those pre-reflective vibes that there's something morally wrong here at all is cringe & low iq tribal bs.
I mean that seems like kind of a silly thing to base morals on. There’s lots of folks tales about ppl getting punished for questing authority figures or women trying to he independent but we wouldn’t consider those good reasons to see those things as bad.
@@ataraxia7439 oh for sure but my point was that he seems to think that trying to not die is just. something we've never tried before. like his logic doesn't make sense, he condemns how humans have always come up with stories to cope with death and conveniently ignores that a lot of those stories in folk tales revolve around ppl trying to cheat death and being punished, of like. alchemists. like bro has never heard of alchemy.
@@ollie4716he doesn't think that, and we never did try 'not dying' this way. our age is quite different from the ages from when those folk tales originate.
I don’t think he realizes that he’s literally going to be a cautionary tale of the hubris of trying to live forever, much like a classic folktale he does not take into account
@@onyx6904 I'm not sure he actually thinks he'll live forever, he seems more interested living healthy as long as he can, which I don't think is an inherently bad desire.
@@RyvreRandom No, he hs explicitly stated that he wants to continue to live forever. Like he admits that this isn't possible to achieve right now, so currently he is only attempting to live for as long as possible, but he is fully convinced that in the near future procedures will be available that truly reverse a body's age and allow someone to live in perpetuity. It's extremely nutty.
@@ItWasSaucerShaped I thought that too, if the only way to outlive the life expectancy is to stick to a struck regimen of constant exercise, fasting, and then only eating specific selected healthy foods with little taste with vitamins, then why live??
My intuition says he feels deeply, despairingly cut off and alone and that his life once he dies will have been totally meaningless. All this measuring and reporting and worshipping immortality is his way of feeling connected, his assurance that he will be seen and remembered.
I'd been researching Mormonism independantly when this video dropped, and it really hits the nail on just how "American" the religion feels to me. The weird mix of Calvinist asceticism, awkward culturally confused mythology and unrestrained grift-friendly capitalism represents the psyche that permeates a lot of American culture in a way only the greatest satirist could come up with. Very insightful video, I love your conclusion and it overall made me feel much more at peace with myself.
Ooh if you're researching Mormonism you should definitely look into the time they tried to make a communist like compound. Lots of crazy history. The modern state of the Mormon church is plenty crazy on its own, but the history is even more bizarre
As a mexican with an ex mormon fanily, it is really creepily american, it has terrible vibes with the super white jesus and angels teaching native americans how to be good.
A weirdly waxy looking, scarred man with a surfer haircut trying to sell us a life without sunlight on your skin or surprise pizza parties as a utopian future would be a hilarious premise if it weren't so fucking cruel.
Hahahaha, I got a mental image of a deranged Capitan Planet slapping pizza slices out of children's hands during a birthday party all the while mumbling about being immortal. My thanks to you.
Bryan's whole deal really reminds me of deep depression: hating being alive but terrified of dying. In the past, when I've felt such feelings, the idea of joining a monastery or the Armed forces has seemed appealing because of the lack of decision making. Depression can make decision making impossible so having an "algorithm" tell you what to do could be appealing. However, by doing that you've stopped living (at least IMO) Really excellent video (congrats on the engagement :) )
I mean removing the cognitive load of mostly unimportant decisions is useful outside of depression too 😅 Many busy or stressed people create routines that basically achieves this, Bryan just took the time to design his more towards health than most.
the end of this resonated with me so hard. i'm about to graduate with a degree in genetics. i could help people with cancer, with rare diseases, anything medical at all to be honest. but i know that there is no research i could undertake, no therapy i could design, nothing, that would save as many lives as just giving people clean water, something we could do at any time. i don't know what to do with that but bryan is exactly who i never want to help
@hayward325 I have been getting more and more disillusioned with a certain sect of scientist in center circles. I was raised Pentecostal and became pretty heavily atheist/left. Still consider myself a leftist but the older I get, the more I realize- we could have had as close to a utopia as is possible, 1,000, 2,000, perhaps even 5,000 years ago. The problem isn't how dense our fertilizers are or theory on microbes, though those things certainly *facilitate* well-being and happiness. 99.99% of humanity's suffering comes from individuals disdain and cruelty to one another ):
@@marcomoreno6748 I think its more deeper and systematic than that. There's every day people who help out each other, I've seen homeless people give each other the clothes on their back to each other, I've seen people who have more voulunteer and help out others bc they want to. It's just the greedy people who hoard resources and make money poisoning us (like fracking or corporate media where they pit people against each other). I really suggest getting in contact with your local community and helping out with what they need, you'll become more disillusioned with the system but you'll see the good in every day people.
Start a business that digs wells in West Africa. They need it. I used to do development work there. A well CAN be dug fairly cheaply, but you must shore up the walls with cement. A village can shred hand pumps faster than you can fix them, so a side business of teaching local blacksmiths (that's a family clan people are born into) how to repair and sand cast parts is necessary. They can come up with junk metal to melt and cast, no problem. Trickier things to make are pulleys that don't wear so fast. They make their own 'buckets' out of old inner tubes and wire, so that's all set. They must be taught how to assemble a cast hand pump by properly tightening the 4 screws SLOWLY clockwise so not to crack the whole thing! A smart village car repairman will know about this from working on engine blocks. You don't even need to travel in country, they have cell phones. I saw a very clever pic of homemade wifi using a plastic water bottle and moped parts. They are very clever similarly to Cubans and can kludge and fix anything given enough time. They're hungry to learn. Please, give this a sincere thought.
My family left the Mormon church a few years ago in the fallout of my coming out. Once you brought up the fact that Bryan had left the church, everything slotted into place for me. I was impressed how well you were able to articulate what it feels like to leave Mormonism despite never having done it. All ex-mormons are in the pursuit of a replacement for the Heavenly Father they grew up with. When you've grown up in a religion that intense, you become unable to function unless you're worshipping something. Whatever is nearby at the time is what tends to fill the vacuum. For Bryan it's this wild goose chase in pursuit of eternal life. For my parents, it's psychedelics and capital A Atheism. For some of my friends, it's been far right conspiracies. I feel lucky that my queerness let me land in the social justice / leftist space like I did. Fantastic video, and congratulatuons on the engagement!
I feel strangely fortunate that my autism made me disinterested in patriarchy, I kinda gave up tradition and social roles before I even left the church. Because of that I never felt particularly traumatized or boxed in by the way I was raised.
May I interest you in tulpamancy or wider plurality? Notice how those thought patterns behave... That's a big reason why I left. I had a better explanation than they did, and I'm too cynical to act solely on "trust me bro" or bandwagon fallacy vibes.
I’ve been out for a long time now and I feel like at some point you stop needing whatever your initial replacement for the church was and you kinda level out
I’m an ex-Mormon therapist in Utah who helps people deconstruct and find their own meaning and belonging again after leaving the church and this video just made SO much click into place for me
@@lily_lxndr Thanks for saying so. It’s tough working as a therapist in this state, I’m currently on a maternity leave I may or may not come back from lol
The whole thing kinda does. This idea that you have to conquer your own body with its wants and needs as a way to get control over something in a world that is completly out of your control is so familiar!
@@bananbanan6520 Eating disorders are at their core defined by a well, disordered relationship with food and eating. He body checks. He obsessively weighs himself. He doesnt allow himself to eat anything outside of what he designated as "good". Its not healthy or normal to do that. Or feel contempt for yourself, past, present or future for eating things like doughnuts. Or pizza parties. The forms of disorders popular in media is mainly bulimia or anorexia. But a common form is orthorexia. And it tends to be overlooked because its a form of obsession with eating what is considered healthy foods. And often it looks like what that guy is doing. Another mistake people make is thinking you only form disordered eating patterns from body image issues. You can also form it due to overwhelming anxiety and stress from feeling like you have a lack of control. So your brain latches onto food and controlling that aspect of your life. An example of something like that... Oh lets say for example. An overwhelming fear of death.
I know this was a small part of the video but the amount of men that leave their s/os when they find out they have cancer is so incredibly disheartening... for him specifically, it seems like her having cancer made him have a singular negative feeling so he had to eliminate her from his life
I don't think it's that this negative feeling was "singular," in the sense of it being his only negative feeling. I think her cancer diagnosis hit a fear so deep and overwhelming for him that he couldn't stand to be around her anymore.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real The same reason any rich person extracts money from the poor or disenfranchised, I'd imagine. There's not really a whole lot of thought which has to go into that in particular.
Im an exmormon, i mentally left the church before i was an adult and i had the go to therapy for years to unpack all the religious trauma and bs the church ground into me. Bryan has very clearly not done this work. "The natural man is an enemy to god" is a very commonly quoted mormon scripture, it basically means that you should never trust anything you want or feel or think because it is evil. Which is to say, i think you are spot on about his inferiority complex/inability to trust his base wants along with his fear of both life and death and how they stem from his former beliefs. Even his horrific misogyny can easily be traced back to the church, where women are treated like property. He may have left mormonism, but oh boy did the mormonism not leave him. I feel so bad for Lena
He started deconstructing from religion but stopped the process halfway. He still thinks in terms of purity and sin, the separation of human beings from nature and the rest of the animal kingdom and he still seeks salvation: to achieve some kind of perfection and eternal life. It is kind of sad.
I wonder where I actually got my belief that humans are a part of the world, and therefore inseparable from other animals, and I don’t believe immortality is possible whatsoever except in extremely technical terms about some cnidarians. I can’t understand why people believe otherwise, it’s just a fact that many do and personally I think it’s completely wrong, just like how someone deeply convinced that humans are somehow higher or other than animals are thoroughly convinced I must be wrong.
The things bro will do to avoid just going to therapy. I know it's awkward opening up to a complete stranger, but I promise you, many are there to help. I'm glad you're putting your health first, but some wounds need to be let in, sat down, and made aware of. You don't have to make friends with your demons, but you do have to have a conversation with them. E: on a separate note, congrats on getting engaged! That's so exciting, and may your years be filled with love and joy and success and laughter.
he reminds me of the desperate efforts i went through to repress my gender dysphoria. i earned graduate degrees and ran marathons, filling up my day with work, study, meditating and training runs. i didn’t know i was running away from myself until i stopped.
I mean I don't think it is necessarily a really bad thing you do earn a lot this way, at that point even if you realize your "true self" the things you have done will always already become a part of you. It is also sometimes the necessary part of the process, as said there is no rebirth if there is no death, when everything seems hopeless whether it is reality hitting you or just noticing you are still alive you still have to move on. I had similar problem with something entirely different. I did a lot of things but I don't think I regret them eventually.
@@notarabbit1752 maybe, but also theres a chance something could click mentally for him, and it would trigger an actual “want” to change on his part :)
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People say we're in a new Gilded Age, but at least Carnegie & Rockefeller conducted philanthropic endeavors. Can any of these new tech bro millionaires/billionaires say they helped to build a library? A university in their name? I think not.
@@thirdcoinedge Billionaires now engage in "philanthropic altruism" which is when they establish charities with the goal of "doing the most good for the most people with the least money." And wow, it's so odd how every single time the charity figures out that the greatest good is investing in infinite money glitches so that the charity always exists. Oh, and the billionaire will use their charity to cheat on taxes, except it's perfectly legal for them to do it so redditors will "uhm actually" you when you call it what it is.
I think he first did this it made some kind of improvement or perceived improvement and now he’s seeing himself get better while the world sees him as getting worse but nothing can be said and him hear it. Like when your friend falls in love with a problem and everyone sees it but him. Or those people who become addicted to plastic surgery all they hear is the demons saying just do this one more thing it will all come together. They see no wrinkles everyone else sees a shiny plastic mask.
its insane how he looks so alive in the photos he showed. he looks human. he literally exerts the essence of humanity in his old photos. while the current talking him looks like a soulless husk. already dead.
> From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal…
Steel. The relatively brittle alloy that is highly susceptible to corrosion. Between flesh and steel, steel would do well to not forget that it is forged and used in fleshy hands, and it is flesh that keeps steel from corroding and crumbling into rust. Compare biomass and steel, and steel in comparison is about as crude and simple as it gets. Steel doesn't heal. Without constant care and maintenance, steel just rots away.
@stm7810 the first parts of your post dont align with the rest - if they have advanced blah blah blah then you dont need to worry about the computer parts going bad because age - you woule bio-like processes to maintain them.
I had an uncle like that. Word salad and my family claimed he was highly intelligent. All I saw was a train wreck I needed to stay far away for my safety.
In part, I think it's because the media portrays smart people as those who say things that don't make sense to average people. The smart people in media then end up being right, because they're smart That leads to people seeing lines of reasoning that they can't follow as being smart because they can't follow it.
I've been listening to your videos while playing minecraft (in peaceful mode) for a few years now. When I started watching this video, I felt this oddly serene feeling and realized it's because I've began so associate you with minecraft and all that it encompasses within my heart.
@@firetarrasque4667yeah I see SOOOO many of what one would call “hardcore reddit atheists” that were once Christian or Muslim or one of the other ones. Left. But still hold their views about gay people or women.
When I was deeply depressed and psychotic I too thought I had no human needs and needed nothing but to follow a strict inhuman routine. (But I'm poor so I was institutionalized (and it helped, I'm better now))
Ex-Mormon here. Not surprised that Bryan was raised in the church. Even when I started disagreeing with its fundamentals, the fear of no longer believing in God and getting sent straight to "Outer Darkness," where I would no longer be able to see my family again, stuck with me. If you came to know the gospel either by being born into the church or hearing it from missionaries, but later chose to reject Christ's teachings, then there would be no hope for you. You had you're one shot. Only those who never got the chance to learn about and convert to the LDS faith will be able to do so after death, when they're visited by missionaries in purgatory. It's no wonder why people who grew up in the church, faced with this ultimatum, would be so afraid of dying. Fortunately, my family and some of my neighbors were pretty lax about the church's instructions. My parents drank coffee and tea regularly and indulged in blue humor. In other households, a Dr. Pepper was the most amount of caffeine that they'd allow teenagers to have, but seeing the butt of a cartoon character would cross the line. It did make leaving the church somewhat easier for me than I assume other people, but that didn't make the stigma of enjoying life's many pleasures any less palpable. Thank you for the video!
Trump moves his head at exactly the right moment and gets his ear grazed by a bullet. We are spiraling down the worst timeline tree. If things start getting better, I wish you well because I'm convinced that I'm doomed to lose all my coin flips.
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I am really grateful for this video. Without getting too deep into it, because I want to be mindful about revealing his identity, I've gotten to know a man recently in a professional context who believes he's never going to die. He thinks that AI is going to save all of humanity from all of their problems, and stop death in its tracks, and he just needs to hold out for 5-10 more years. He's deep in the tech landscape and is surrounded by people who all believe this to be true. I've had hours and hours of conversation with him, and it's made me feel absolutely insane. It's so clear to me that he is deeply afraid of dying and unwilling to engage with it. He's a hardcore "atheist," but he's essentially developed a messiah figure (AGI) that's going to right humanity's wrongs and save him from suffering. It's baffling, and a bit scary. I'm grateful to see someone else go down the rabbit hole into this ideology so I can think about it all more clearly.
I think it makes a lot of sense from a utilitarian perspective to try to defeat death with technology. it seems like people by and large don’t want to die, or want to go out on their own terms, and the acceptance of death, while a fundamental part of the human experience up to this point, is sort of a cultural coping mechanism to deal with the fact that we don’t have the means to extend a life as long as we want. That said, anybody in this day and age who is genuinely using that remote possibility of a technological escape from death as a way to avoid the hard process of accepting their own I feel sorry for. I don’t think it’s theoretically impossible to find and reverse mechanisms for aging, I just think there are so many of them and they are so deeply baked into biology we have no idea how to influence that we are nowhere close. I don’t think it’s impossible to create a human-like artificial intelligence, but I do think it’s basically impossible to take a flesh and blood human brain and simulate it with enough detail that it will effectively be a digital recreation of that person. the obstacle is the precision of measurement, not the difficulty of simulation (the digital brain can take as long as it wants to model the original human brain, and we’d just perceive at a different time scale)
Hmm. I am not entirely dissimilar to that person. I am an atheist and afraid of death (these seem like inescapable and obvious conclusions.. there's obviously no god and death is scary). I do think about "the singularity" a lot, but I try to be self-aware because I have read a lot of scifi and work in machine learning so obviously, these are things I'm going to be heavily biased towards. Even accounting for this I do think AI is the biggest existential threat to mankind. But I don't think it automatically happens the right way, and I don't think I am automatically saved if it happens. Though some small part of my brain hopes for it - only because it's the only plausible way I could be saved in a meaningful sense. It's more of a hail mary than the inevitable glorious future. But I don't think it's baffling, or scary. It's a kind of natural evolution of the extremely normal human tendency to magical thinking and seeking for greater meaning and life after death. I certainly don't think it's baffling or scary when my mom talks about jesus (even though the idea that the judeo christian god could be real is absurd to me). At the end of the day it very well might just be a nerd religion but.. can't we just have it?
@@johnk6757 Why is death scary? Every time you go to a dreamless sleep you briefly dip into something that death most likely feels like. What are you afraid of? The 'nothing'? And the philosopher Seneca asked: does your non-existence before your birth scare you? Do you remember any suffering? No, you don't. You don't feel any kind of way about it, even though you're aware of lives being lived before you were even there. Are you sad for missing out? Death is the same. You return to the perfectly neutral non-existence. Being dead won't hurt, and life around you will keep on going just like it did before you were born. Some fear is warranted, all biological matter tries to survive, but as a species who is capable of thinking abstractly about existence, when you truly think about life and death, then death really isn't any more scary than the act of being born or the act of living. 'Death is scary' you say. I ask again, does the time before your birth fill you with dread? Does dreamless sleep? You didn't know you were going to be born, and whilst sleeping, you don't know you're guaranteed to wake up. So what's so scary about death? You'll be gone, there won't be a 'you' to have to worry about missing out on the world.
@@Killjoy_Mel What an incredibly terrible argument. Death is the absence of experiences I want to enjoy. I want to enjoy as many experiences as possible, ergo I want to delay death as much as possible.
the stuff he eats for breakfast looks like what my friend had to give her guinea pig when she (the guinea pig) got too old and her teeth too worn down to properly chew normal guinea pig food.
“I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I’ll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1,000 now. After I remove the ice pack, I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water-activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face, an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm, followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.” -Bryan Johnson … probably
I wanted to ask if this isn't similar to American Psycho, then thought it might be, then realize it is, and damn what a true comparison. We are the hollow men We are the stuffed men Leaning together headpiece filled with straw. Alas! Our dried voices When we whisper together Are quiet and meaningless As wind in dry grass Or rat's feet over broken glass In our dry cellar
Bryan has so clearly never even tried to engage with anything other than generating or accumulating capital. Like surely if you were going to live forever you would want to take some pottery classes or like learn to knit or something. Instead he wants to spend eternity doing bizarre masochistic routines and trials that help nobody but himself and to me that seems fucking miserable. It's being alive without living. It's cowardly. *Also side note, if I were in 'After Life' the memory I would chose to take with me is the time my friend and I took our dogs to the local creek after a major flood when we were both 9 or 10 without telling either of our parents and trying to cross it to go exploring on the other bank. Except my friend let go of her crusty little white dog about half way across and had to recuse him but in the process lost her shoe and so we spent 45 minutes trying to rescue her shoe from a fast-moving flooded creek because she refused to walk back home without it. And then once we finally found her shoe and headed back to our respective houses, my mum spotted us in front of the local milk bar and bailed us both up because she thought we'd gone missing/been kidnapped because we hadn't told anyone where we were going or for how long and had been about to call the police (this was around 2011/2012 and most 9-10 year olds didn't have phones - certainly not anyone I knew did). I have no clue why this memory in particular is the one I would want to carry around forever but it is.
As a programmer it drives me fucking nuts that people treat technology like magic, and that it's in large part because capitalists see it as good marketing
@@hasanmuttaqin464notably, computer science is not a product of capitalism. Instead, Capitalists desperately try to apply said 'magic' into a money sucking device.
@@Dong_Harvey true, but unlike everything else where they just pad up something, capitalist just love conputer science to an unhealthy degree, this result in the birth of many tech millionares, which in turn drag the progress backward
1:24:24 okay I have so many comments on this vid but as a person that loves creating the photorealistic eyes, the beauty is also in the experience of drawing. It just feels good to make the thing. Like yeah I *could* add an interpretation, but I don't feel like I need to. The thing is already enough for me.
Artistic expression should not have to rest on mastery. I'm not showing my paintings at a gallery, but they do the trick for a spot on the wall, and the doing is fun.
The part about how he treated his fiancé Taryn Southern… holy shit what a vile man. To be so unbelievably cruel to your partner when they’re dealing with cancer… just why?!
As a computer science guy, I'm sorry about this guy. As a philosophy guy, I'm sorry _for_ this guy. The urge to optimize, to be efficient, to get parts of life down to exactly what's necessary is one that I feel as well. It shows up in my life in small ways all the time. But I know that it's not really a Healthy Thing. It's very useful but it's hard to turn off and there are a lot of things that just can't be optimized and even more that shouldn't. Johnson is that on steroids and I apologize on behalf of the CS guys. But what I find really interesting psychologically and philosophically about Johnson is how he talks about consciousness and choice. It's very revealing says he's trying to run his life like an algorithm so that waking up and doing his routine is autopilot. He doesn't want to think, and not just in the sense of transcending the profane. He doesn't want to think because living with his own thoughts is absolutely terrifying and doing anything to avoid those thoughts is necessary. I know because it's how I act when I am deeply depressed. How I'm living right now. Anything except living in the moment. Mormonism might have directed his life path but I suspect it's the terror of death that has shaped _how_ he does it. Making himself a lab rat? "Algorithmizing" his life, collecting all of these statistics, constantly checking them, removing the need to choose what to do? It's just tech-speak for doing the same thing I do. The algorithm is just rules to unthinkingly follow. Turning everything into numbers and data is just a way to live in a numerical abstraction rather than your own experience. And that's an awful way to live. I really do feel bad for him that he feels like he needs to live like this. It's not really living.
You may, or may not I don't know, appreciate this comment, but personally I'm really tired of tech people referring to biology in broad computer terms. No, DNA is not a "programmable code". The brain in no way "functions just like a computer". Stuff like that. Not only is it untrue it cheapens what biology actually is and does. "Input" and "stimuli" are not the same thing. Sure, you can build computer systems that are gross simulacra of biological systems, but that system isn't "alive", not anywhere close to it. And I'm of the belief it will never be. This type of thinking also leads to absolutely bizarre conclusions that we see emerging in almost all companies. Users aren't "people" anymore, with all the mess that comes with that, but rather "agents" that can be funneled through The Algorithm™️. When you reach that level of abstraction, that level of dehumanization, you get things like Facebook having no problem causing massive damage, because they're not "hurting people"...they're "herding agents" in the most brutally efficient ways to make money off them. It's all so gross.
yeah, i'm depressed too and his emphasis on automating his life and avoiding thinking and avoiding "evening brian" just screams inability to deal with his feelings. this guy needs therapy, not to run his life like this. if anything, his entire routine is making his life worse. feeling like a lab rat doesn't cure depression. it just pushes the depression further down the road for you to deal with later.
I feel like there's too much judgement going on here. There are lots of ways to live and you have no idea if he is fulfilled or not. Also, a lot of people believe there is peace in routine and removing choice. He has taken it to an incredible extreme but it IS his life after all. The idea being that you free up your cognitive energy for other things when you don't have to choose e.g. what to eat or wear. And I'm sure his mind is plenty busy with other things.. he's a billionaire
I find it funny how often folks that have delved into very logical or optimizing processes (mathematics, CS, often science) find a certain need to pull back from that tendency. I wonder if there's a similarity to a martial artist knowing peace or conflict avoidance. I have a lot of black and white thinking that studying maths helped me channel into a good outlet. It helped me not be that in my daily life by showing me where such thinking was more appropriate. Your comment got me thinking about how discipline can soften our views. Maybe as a philosophy guy you can understand or say what I'm getting at here better, but I appreciate reading your comment.
I'm not sure how a collection of businesses based on consumer electronics and internet commerce managed to label themselves as "tech" as if that represents even a large slice, let alone a majority of technological advancement.
"You should invest in biotech now because it's as smart as investing in microsoft in the 70s" Y'all. Get your analogy straight. Investing in a random biotech company would be like investing in a random "tech company" in the 70s. Even assuming it is going to be the next big thing, there's a good chance you ain't picking Microsoft 2
@@aromata1 Is there though? Is there?? Because he went from looking like someone healthy for his age to like he had his skin replaced with wax. He looks like if I touch him at all, he will crumble on the spot.
I often think about how privileged I am to be born in an age where I can have access to projects like this video. This level of deep intellectual analysis, as a young adult trying to figure life out, is absolutely invaluable to me. I think I'll pick up the Nebula subscription with my next paycheck. Thank you for the work that you do!!
death is not antagonistic to life, but rather a mechanism thereof-bryan's body "wants to become dirt", which is of course a continuation of the messy, complex, and evolving material condition of profane life. this is the source of bryan's aversion to death, which is that he hates Life, he hates pleasure, he hates his ex-fiancee, he probably hates his kids, and as such seeks an undeath, a death-outside-of-life, a total inertness, a Total Death like plastic, or like cancer. the death of actual living bodies is his greatest enemy for this reason; death forces us to be something else, death forces us to unpredictable nonreproductive futures, death forces us to keep being life beautiful video, thank you for committing to the project of life
@stm7810 nowhere did i say that death is _morally good_ (at least not without a context for it). i actually don't want to die anytime soon if i can help it. not particularly because i love being _alive_ (though I do) but because i love being _myself_ . i love my projects and ambitions and memories, which are the actual things death ends, in giving space to other possible projects/ambitions/memories. it's just that death of "a life" is not the same thing as the end of the conditions of life. bryan johnson is, yes, a millionaire who abuses people and reinforces hierarchy. but he also is a man who *Hates Life* as revealed by his _particular_ aversion to death. these two notions are unsurprisingly very intertwined and not mutually exclusive at all. lastly, as i mentioned, at least one person is stopping me from experiencing death and that person is me. you should consider if you mean what you say, that wanting to live is good, when you insinuate that i ought to kill myself. to which ethics of Life are you holding yourself to?
@stm7810 i hear what you're saying, i'm very familiar with the political value of "bodily autonomy" as a trans person. i have a couple points of complication that might be interesting to think along 1. i think the body is a far more contestable territory than we would like to admit. "only for me to choose" what happens to it-but then there are political demands at stake, right? if i am to take hormones, or to get an abortion, or a surgery, *somebody* has to provide these services for me. if i am to eat, there must be some other organism that i am willing to kill and consume, because i am heterotrophic. already upon being born the body is a contested space-and every moment you inhabit a space, or drink water, or eat something, is a moment that "autonomy" is *not granted* to others. the question of bodily autonomy also has odd standing for disability, as it implies in the "auto" a very individualistic approach to the powers and limits of the will-we especially see this hitch when it comes to the "autonomy" of people with intellectual disabilities... just in being alive we are in a broad contact with the world, constantly in encounter with other beings, and not always without violence, but moreover, not always without _vulnerability_ .... and again, this intersects in a funny way with the mind-there is no mind-body dualism, so the question is to what extent we can have "autonomy" over our own minds, what we view as violences, etc... there is no uncomplicated universality to bodily autonomy, without retreat into the least productive kind of utopianism. i'd even argue bodily autonomy is a sign that only has meaning in the negative sense of _body horror_ -access to abortion is _bodily autonomy_ only in the sense that lack of access to abortion is _body horror_ . 2. i think while the discussion of the "right" to bodily autonomy can be a very valuable tool, we have to understand "rights" themselves as attempts to essentialize what they actually are: Demands. when you or i say "i choose when i die" we actually make a political demand that that choice be ours, and all the powers of making it so be ours, regardless of the desires of others. which Bryan Johnson also makes as a demand-but then one wonders whose demands are unheard that provide him his healthcare, his wealth, his food... the ethics of the situation is less directly inscribed in the body itself, but more in the relational power dynamics and allegiances involved in the _project_ of living forever... instead of focusing on bodily autonomy as a positive universal, we could engage with Jasbir Puar's concept of "debility", which describes oppressive power structures that write limits of power into the body. examples might be war zones that produce bodies without limbs; my inability to acquire hormones at my own pace (why not at the grocery store!) because the state-medical complex _specifically disempowers me_ so; the immobility forced upon Palestinian subjects by the Israeli occupation. 3. maybe a bit more esoteric, but, following from my points in previous comments, i would argue that to alive forever is not quite to be *oneself* living forever-even if you manage to live for a thousand, two thousand, three thousand years, its entirely possible that your politics, desires, ambitions, identity, would all change, as would the field of the world upon which identities and projects are formed at all. at which point we wonder what the being living forever even _is_ -i might argue that the only constant would be the Human Shape of the body, or the imagining of the body as human at all. whether or not we value that depends on one's stance on humanism or anthropocentrism. i'm not going to keep writing essays in youtube comment sections (i do it _autonomously_ to help myself think along concepts, really!) but i recommend reading _Staying with the Trouble_ by Donna Haraway to counter humanist valuations of the body; _Brilliant Imperfections_ by Eli Clare, for a really interesting work in disability justice engaging critically with the concept of cure; Jaspir Puar's _The Right to Maim_ in which the concept of debility is really fleshed out; and _The Vegetarian_ by Han Kang, which is a short novel about a woman who wants to become more plantlike (i.e. autotrophic). my reading of johnson here is of course brief and rudimentary but draws from deleuzian understandings of thanatos and eros vs a fascist-paranoid death drive. cheers
@stm7810 x2 everybody here is just coping so hard. They say stuff like "if you dont accept death then you hate living and hate your dog" "death is whay gives life meaning". But they say it just because they know they cant avoid dying, when they get sick they go to the doctor, they look both sides befoe crossing the street, etc.
sorry about how hateful and reductive the people in this thread have been. i think your writing is interesting. the ‘esoteric’ section of your comment on bodily autonomy especially resonated with me (us?) Keep doing what you do.
@@KateeAngel Sure that is a great idea for most people, but a more specialized regime is the only thing that has helped my chronic health conditions even though I was already doing the normal stuff :3
I'm only 20 minutes in so far, and already, as a trans person, I can't help but recognize something in this guy's bizarre relationship with his own body, some kind of disconnect that he has to have with his own sense of self in order to be okay with reducing himself to numbers and powders and weirdass nihilist bs. I don't think he's literally trans of course, I just think it's interesting the way cis men can jump through all these hoops to justify their own existence to themselves because for them it's just easier to deny their emotions than accept that something is deeply wrong (regardless of if that Wrong Thing is that he's an egg or if he's just depressed). Idk, all of this to justify this joke: maybe the next chemical he should try is estrogen?
@@thearchitect813 but like... totally tho. it reminds me of trixie and katya reacting to "how to be a cult leader" and commenting on how one of the cult leaders was fully doing gender play with his injectables and style requirements for the cult some cis men (speaking from experience) are terrified to recognize that there's something wrong with manhood
Not wanting your body to fall apart and die is not gender dysphoria. Although sure you could call all of this "gender affirming care", with the idea of youth and vitality being so tied up in masculinity
I would definitely sum up my reaction to this man's existence and choices as disgust, particularly in his treatment of Lena. The demand for legal fees after already having successfully destroyed her life is perhaps one of the most callous actions I have ever had described to me. There is a derangement here which falls outside my capacity for description. To hold in contempt all joy and compassion; to waste monumental discipline in a petty effort to shill supplements. I can hardly imagine a more pointless existence. That, perhaps, is the problem: he has to survive because it is all that he has. The body must continue because there is nothing inside of it.
I dunno, it feels kind of in character for him, at least to me. I’ve definitely heard of similar threats made during divorces or nasty mergers but I don’t think I’ve seen someone go thru with it. It speaks to the level of self hatred i guess. Since bullying comes from self hatred and bigotry being externalized, it makes sense that a man who so obviously is obsessed with running from himself and his inadequacies would absolutely obliterate people in their way and laugh about it. (I also never considered that those people who are that cruel to wring a human being dry and laugh at their earnest trust probably think of their own bodies the same way they treated mine. Small comfort at least)
@@swagathachristie5242 I don't find it confusing. I was only remarking on how utterly contemptible an existence it is. Usually even in horrible people I can discover some redeeming quality: a deep curiosity, an odd passion, a spark of the human spirit. In this man there is simply nothing to latch onto. He has placed himself firmly beyond the ability to be connected with in any meaningful sense. He got his wish; I can no longer see him as a person.
A chillingly accurate and amazing breakdown of how Mormon beliefs feed into what this guy is doing - even some things I didn't think of while hearing people talk about him, and I was raised a Provo-born Mormon. Great work as always ~
I grew up mormon and left in my early 20s (7+ years ago) after having done the mission, the temple marriage, going to BYU (I actually graduated after leaving while pretending to still believe. It was awkward being there, but tuition is super cheap for members). A few months after leaving the whole "I don't know what my life's purpose is and also death is terrifying" thing came crashing in on me. I was completely paralyzed by existential dread. Every night I couldn't fall asleep because I was terrified to be alone with my thoughts, so instead I would just watch TV until I passed out. This went on for weeks I was really having a time of it until eventually I moved on past it. Later I would find different strategies and philosophies to help me accept death and cope with the knowledge. All this to say, I understand the deep-seated fear that fills in the gap where belief in eternal life has gone away, it can be crippling. That said I've also seen a lot of people work though it and of all of them, this guy found the least (emotionally) healthy way to cope.
One of my favorite human beings, my uncle, an artist just like me, passed away last night. Today was his funeral. I cannot comprehend how someone like this guy would Isolate himself from the shared experience of grief, especially the communal creation of the good and bad of the departed. I hope nobody close to him dies abruptly and if it happens I hope that he will find his humanity again.
i really resonated with feeling like people like johnson are stealing my, our lives. so many tragedies in the world could be reversed but money is spent on stupid tech start ups. also im sorry about the fires last year, that was awful.
I'm often reminded of a scene in chainsaw man(spoilers) where the president of the united states makes a deal with the gun devil for him to kill makima in exchange for 1 year of every American, the idea that millions of people had their lives cut short by the same man that claimed he would protect them only for him to use that trust to further his own gains at their loss is horrifying
Whats actually crazy to me is i am maybe 16 years younger than this guy and I will probably continue living years after he dies, and I will remember all this posturing, all these beliefs he has, and everything he had hoped for in his life. And I will remember him for a bit, and I think I will be sad.
@@smilleur Yes and no. Even if he lives longer than you. You will have lived more than him. You will have made more friends, seen more places, seen the sun more. Enjoyed more food, tried new food. Tried new things. Have had new experiences that change you physically and mentally. And your goals are likely much more reachable than his. Longer doesnt always mean fulfilling, yknow?
I think it makes a lot of sense that this guy says he was in a deep, suicidal depression before all of this. When you’re depressed, routine- purposely throwing away your humanity, in favor of BECOMING routine- it sounds SO appealing. You don’t have to worry about what you’re going to eat, when you’re going to sleep. Your obligations to your friends and family. Existing is so much easier when you aren’t required to act like a human being Edit: 15:08 “I try to eliminate my conscious mind from decision making.” YUPPP. UH HUH.
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine."
Lily's description of being pushed out of everyday life leading to a kind of avoidance, stemming from an immense will to live thwarted by deep sense of loss... ... it actually syncs up really well w/ a theory of melancholic depression that says it's a deep creativity where you (i might say im included in this 'you' as a disabled, autistic, multiply queer person) sense a loss so all-encompassing that all your creativity goes towards creative ways to mourn something that can't ever be fully mourned. I think that might be where I'm headed, but i wonder if there's a way to accept "Shit Life Syndrome" without blaming myself for it :( At least I'm not Bryan.
Queer, autistic, and multiply disabled, plus "spent my teenage years trying to cure my lingering christian trauma with an unverifiably optimistic faith in science to solve this fallen world." This whole thing made me feel seen - all my art is traumatic in ways I'm just now uncovering.
I watched several interviews with him and read the extensive content from his blueprint website. The comments from people on many videos featuring him are all very rich with praise, but I was just left disturbed by how out of touch he seemed to be with his own multifaceted mental illness. I saw a madman who was scared of the notion of death more than anyone I'd ever seen, driven by fear and anxiety, constantly searching for some elixir of life like a crazed person; intensely focused on trying to replicate his son's looks, odd posts of him boasting about how he's in the top x percentile of strength or youth similar to that of young boys, getting facials and treatments to look like some androgynous half man half woman half teen half old guy, hyper focused on isolating himself and getting rid of even the slightest "imperfection," clearly showing his unrest and inability to make peace with an imperfect world; he seemed absolutely unhinged. Him posing shirtless with his shirtless son all over his website left me feeling ick like he was a man refusing to give up youth gracefully, and in the midst of a mid life crisis except with a bunch of money and wacked out mind.
Saw that clown when the video started and my cave girl brain went “omg Lily girl what HAPPENED to you?” I think I need to go to bed. Great video, glad you haven’t turned into a ghostly self-loathing, blue-light emanating right-angled ghoul.
@@therealOXOC machine learning (in its current most popular form) pumps out results based on the dataset it is trained on. It can’t miraculously manifest immortality. Machine learning is a scalpel. It can do something specific inhumanly well, but the second you try to make it do something it isn’t trained on, it falls apart. Machine learning is great for robotics, manufacturing, data processing and retrieval, etc. Not so good for creative solutions.
@@therealOXOC neural nets are mathematical functions that process the training dataset and return the closest answer to your input based on previous outputs. It cannot accomplish anything brand new
the moment where he was weighing himself reminded me so much of myself when ana was in the drivers seat. i hope he lives his life instead of missing out on it.
One critique - they call such rules for decision making in medical clinical practice "algorithms". They have "algorithms" for how to go about treating specific conditions based on the patient's risk and other factors. It seems more like he's using that language to appear more legitimate in terms of medical lingo than comparing himself to a computer algorithm.
The 40 seconds from 1:20:10 on describes my episodes where I "want to die" the most so accurately it's insane. It's not about wanting to die, it's about wanting something that isn't *this* so much that your mind just can't take it and you just... fall and detach. "A desire for life so extreme and overcome by a fear of loss that it locks itself away"' is probably the best way I've ever heard this be articulated.
The level of ortorexia this guy has reached is honestly one that feels impossible. But he's rich enough to do anything to himself, and mormon enough that his closest will not be intervening.
god thank you for explaining what's up with this guy because i've seen people talk about Bryan online for a while but i've been too frightened of him to further investigate
15:12 that’s way too much. I go to gym 3x a week, drink lots of protein shakes, I try stretching 2x a week, I feel like I take a lot of supplements but this… wtf is he doing 😭
Bryan Johnson is eccentric, somewhat delusional (especially when it comes to AGI imo), and obsessive. So what? Life extension seems to be his passion and he's happy devoting his life to it. I don't see any issue with that. I do however see quite a lot of issues with this video. 1) A lot of this video and the comments are basically about shitting on the guy because he is obsessed with something that you are not. We all have different views about whats important in life. One of my highschool friends is really into trains (classic). He works for some company that makes train signaling software or something. He goes home and plays train simulator. He watches documentaries on trains. People like you would say "oh my god he's wasting his life on trains, go out and see the world" but if he's doing what he wants to do and is happy doing it, why are you so judgmental? I see this a lot online from women towards men in particular. Just accept that not everyone is like you... 2) Related to 1), a lot of this video is basically trying to psychoanalyze the man and claim that he's not really happy even though he claims he is. You are not a therapist and he's not your client. Stop. 3) You're calling him out for using tech lingo. Guess what, that's how people in tech talk. People use words like "stack" or "algorithm" all the time. When I studied math, everyone always used the word "modulo" in casual conversation. They're not trying to "sound smart", its a sociolect. 4) The whole biomarker thing. His general approach is "try everything that some kind of evidence for it". I'm pretty sure he knows that reducing a bunch of numbers isn't guaranteed to make him live to 200. On the other hand, its the only thing that he can reasonably do to measure his progress. The whole thing is an experiment anyways. You claim that if he lives a long life it won't be because of his biomarkers. How can you possibly know that? Are you an expert on the science of aging with knowledge from the future? 5) The strange claim that Bryan would think gray hair has anything to do with early death. Holy smokes, what a strawman. He's obviously trying to reverse the visual signs of aging as well as delay death. I can guarantee 100% that this video and the comments would be clowning him if he had gray hair. They would be like "hahaha he's spending so much time on anti-aging and yet he looks like a teenager with gray hair!" You're literally doing this exact thing with his pale skin already. Now if he goes and takes some self-tanning peptide you go "hahaha, why is he tanning his skin, does he think thats going to make him live longer? He's just vain!" 6) You claim that he's not a scientist. That's correct. However, you also seem to claim that his experiment is useless and that is very much false. n = 1 experiments (case reports) are quite useful in science. For example, what if he lives to 130? He would make for an extremely interesting case report and I'm pretty sure scientists would be trying to figure out which parts of his protocol led to the unusual lifespan. Science isn't just about the large double-blind studies. There's a lot more but at this point I'm tired of writing this.
Spotted a Bryan fanatic. Your homeboy isn't normal. He's not doing anything groundbreaking. He's just another self absorbed narcissistic grifter throwing his money on ridiculous pseudoscience & duping his followers to buy his products. It's impossible to reverse aging & death. This isn't a sci first movie this is real life. Gray hair is natural. Even young people get gray hair & he probably dyes his hair cause gray hair would scare him. Holy smokes you Bryan fans would strawman or use any fallacy to justify his craziness & make him out to be some genius & hero. I don't know who's worse Elon Musk fan boys, Joe Rogan fans , MaGa or you Bryan fans. 🤦
@@GrapeCheez2 Wtf are you on about you raving lunatic. I'm not a "Bryan fan" nor do I think (or say anywhere in my comment) that he's a genius or a hero. I'm fairly indifferent towards the guy. I just don't like judgmental video essays with weak arguments. "It's impossible to reverse aging & death." Oh look another wannabe scientist from the future. In what century does science conclude that reversing aging is impossible? Do you guys have flying cars yet over there? Please let the aging researchers know that so they don't waste their time anymore.
The amount of (self-)contempt he seems to have for himself at the mere thought of eating a cookie... All this talk of utilitarianism, becoming superhuman and seeking enlightenment is a pretty translucent justification for a severe eating disorder.
My indirect pop culture exposure to Brian Johnson as the weird tech bro vampire didn't prepare me for how melancholy this deep dive was going to make me feel. Not because I feel intensely sorry for him so much as he just seems like the most extreme version of these bits of denial and fear and self loathing that pretty much everybody carries around, you know? He has all these resources, and that just gave him infinite leeway to cater to the destructive parts of himself
i mean this facetiously but. what actually happened is that unlike most of us, he had infinite money, so he could choose to double down and simply reify ocd into a career. it's *buckwild.*
lol If ai gets that smart, what makes billionaires think it will care about us. Do we care about every single ant? The best an ant can hope for is a human to not see them as a pest and or be put in an ant farm with no foraging, building, or entertainment. We can expect the same.
"Instead of hiding in a shell Why make your life a living hell? So do the toast, gulp down the cup And drink to bones that turn to dust" -No One Lives Forever by Oingo Boingo
He calls it an algorithm cause it is an algorithm. It wasn't always a tech term, it was meant to describe a set of instructions in hierarchical order. I cannot imagine anything more like an algorithm than the blue print protocol
I honestly hope BJ lives to 200, and a reporter asks him if it was all worth it, and he comes to the conclusion that it was not worth all he went through to live that long.
i'm barely 1/3 in to the video but the overwhelming religious tones are already astounding. things like the treating of the body as a temple & the faith that one day some all knowing intelligence will come down to earth and sort us all out. he thinks he's an atheist but he turned to a new god called data & attributed similar supernatural powers to it. it makes no sense to sort out the practical aspects of a post-immortality society because it is when the heavens will join the earth. it just makes me sad.
I don't think that these people get that a long life that isn't fun or interesting just isnt appealing to a lot of people. I'm here for a good time, not a long time, yknow?
'imagine if you'd invested in microsoft' 'okay. imagine if you'd invested in commodore, since there was no reason at the time to prefer one company over the other'
As someone who actually knows how tech works, I feel that it's insane for tech to be viewed as anything above a tool, and for art and humanities to be so belittled
The worst of all they belittle human mind as a whole and worship computers and AI. That is why there are some tech bros obsessed with uploading themselves into a computer or think that AI will save us from everything. While actual neurobiology shows that animal (including human) brains work very differently from computers. And they totally ignore much of natural sciences and physical reality, hence belief in things like technological singularity, which is based on an idea of endless exponential growth of computing technology
Precisely. Tech is a tool for philosophy. Tech and science are applied philosophy, without humanities, tech and science alone serve no meaning, no purpose, it's just machinery. I wish people in science and techs would not dismiss humanities so readily, as humanities are the foundation of why we go above and beyond in the first place. Foundation, language, commentary, and the end goal. Tech is just the tool to get there, so there's no reason for such resentment between the disciplines. It's like thinking that the mind and the body are separate. They are not. There is no mind without the body, and the body without the mind is just a sack of flesh.
I just wanted to comment that beyond the high quality writing this video essay has, I just deeply love this last montage of you walking through a park. It's something I've done before, as a way to capture the essential magic of just ... existing and feeling the world. But those videos takes storage and I thought nobody would be interested by such trivial content. Seeing you doing this is comforting. It is proof that the love of existence and the acute knowledge that it is ephemeral, gone in a fleeting moment you already can't remember the details of, is universal. I also want to thank you for the truly humanist video you brought on this pale blue dot, and wish you a nice day.
bryan johnson's belief that a gen intelligence AI would immediately try to make humans live forever is honestly hilarious to me. putting aside all the biases that humans program into AI, a true singularity or actual general artificial intelligence would probably see humans as the source of most of the problems happening on earth, and turn us all into manure, or scrap our bodies for the iron in our blood. can't remember if it was david chalmers or bertrand russel who argued that future AI would be more likely to do this, it's been a few years since i wrote abt it for philosophy, but just. tech bros take literally any humanities 101 course challenge: impossible mode.
Check out my Nebula bonus video, where I review Bryan’s quite bad kids’ books! nebula.tv/videos/lilyalexandre-bryan-johnsons-bad-kids-books/
You seem like an even worse grifter than Bryan Johnson.
I haven't kept up with your videos in months. Returning to them now with this one, and your writing continues to absolutely floor me. You just nail these huge, dramatic ideas with simple to follow yet wistfully poetic language. The phone call interlude-segue at 1:25 was so heartwarming. Thank you.
We're gonna need a part 2 of this video after watching The Substance
@@jimj2683😅 you obviously don't know Bryan then. I honestly haven't seen this content creator linking to a paid content site is so far different to a wannabe cult leader shilling overpriced olive oil, supplements, merchandise, food products and motivational seminars you're actually making a fool of yourself publicly with your comments 😅
For the love of your sanity you need to find a different path of thought. I just breezed through your history and everything is so negative, if you look for the bad you will find it. The same goes for the reciprocal, also you have a very condescending frame of view which I just can't see as healthy. I don't mean this as an assault to your being but hopefully as enough of a shock to provoke some introspection as to why you are in such a seemingly painful state of being. Sitting in silence and solitude for 30mins every now and then may do you some good as it did for me.
The Patrick Bateman morning routine, truly the sign of a healthy individual.
Damn, he even LOOKS like Patrick Bateman
@@ChrisLeeW00 Now lets see Paul Allen’s routine
@@ChrisLeeW00 this, but unironically.
Sign of high IQ + at least trying to lead a healthy, disciplined life
Now compare vs. morning routines of sad, sick, depressed masses.
@@Adam-rf5xpthose "low-iq" working masses are depressed because they're forced to live in the world your beloved supermen profited off the creation of.
@@Adam-rf5xp Having a routine, sure that's healthy. Having an obsession with how you look and every single aspect of your health? Not healthy. Seems like you missed the point of the comment and joke 🤓 ☝🏽
Wait, so you're telling me this guy is obscenely wealthy, can't go outside during the day, obsesses about his own mortality and steals blood from people. Are you sure you haven't got him confused with count Dracula?
Personalitywise he's more like Colin Robison...
@@LunaRoseManor >steals
Interesting reframing.
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Best comment ever. Ty
Ha! Love it.
'brians relationship to science is not that of a scientist' is absolutely true. He does not want to find out how things work, he wants for the things he wishes for to become true.
"he wants for the things he wishes for to become true." so does literally every human on earth. Surley you're not implying that wishing for something to be true, and trying to make it true is wrong? And btw scientists aren't just absolutely curious mindless robots, go ask any scientist "whats your goal" and they'll tell you "to make the world a better place"
Like, some science is pure science but like. Nah dog the fellas working on the covid vaccine had a goal
@@alexmendenhall5416 they're not making claims of right and wrong, just pointing out that he's not a scientist (which i agree). Scientists wish to illuminate the nature & processes of the world, engineers apply these insights to optimize and achieve some goal, and businessmen commodify these solutions for selfish gain. Brian seems far more obsessed with the goal and the aesthetics of science than the actual processes that make it possible, which plants him firmly in the business camp
@@allanchon1361 yes Bryan Johnson is doing what he does for selfish gain, I know, I just literally said that in my last comment. What I’m asking is that is it wrong for a person to selfishly want to live longer? Businessman or scientist. Also most scientists are not curiosity motivated, but profit motivated. We would never study anything if there was nothing gain from knowing anything.
@@alexmendenhall5416 did you just not the read the original comment? What are u even talking about lol
Former Mormon here. I'd like to reinforce what you said about the psychological toll of losing faith in the afterlife. Because Mormon's conception of the afterlife is philosophically similar to the life we live on earth (learning, changing, and growing), you never have to fear death. The moment you begin to doubt your beliefs is the first moment you have to grapple with death. It's a jarring experience to have, and at the same moment you're losing your community. Thanks for talking about it with empathy.
there really is such empathy in this video. not insecurity, not coddling - it feels just, like, compassionate but cleareyed. it's very special.
My father lost his mormon faith deep into his life. Sadly, he also had a near death experience shortly after duri g cover, so yeah, that's a difficult thing to deal with
The relationship between the Mormon sphere and the Transhumanist sphere is WEIRDLY close.
I was raised Catholic. It took me longer to come to grips with finality than my entire life beforehand, up to and including the day I was born and the day I finally started to think about death. The overwhelming, suffocating dread that I felt when I was ~15-16 years old couldn't possibly compare to what a former mormon missionary who left in his mid 20s must have gone through.
The afterlife, according to the Abrahamic religions, is stagnation. No change. Forever frozen. Forever stuck. I am not really sure what kind of mental gymnastics one has to make to convince themselves otherwise but if one believes in anything but the eternal stagnation, then whatever they believe, no longer has anything to do with any of the Abrahamic religions. To the point that it veers into open fanficitaion... sorry, different sects of these religions. One can veer into the very reasonable argument of "literally each of those religions are pure imagination and make-believe", which is objectively true but it is a bit jarring to me how little any of this is even discussed, yet alone acknowledged.
It's very telling that the slogan is "don't die" instead of "stay alive" because the objective isn't to live and enjoy a long healthy and fulfilling life, but to simple "not die" at all costs
the slogan "stay alive" doesn't work because its subjective , (stay alive for how much) but "don't die" does not have this problem , you can easily measure if a person is alive or not , you are either alive or not .
"a worrying disinterest in the human experience" is a good way to sum up most of what I have issue with in the world
@@vkpfp0kx1flmwmygit's building community, and that's most human thing we can do. It's important especially for me, queer person from country where being gay is illegal so non respectfully stfu
@@vkpfp0kx1flmwmyg "Talking About the human experience isnt part of the human experience"
- Broccoli-Dev
@@vkpfp0kx1flmwmyg another stupid fan of tech bro bs?
Blame millennial highly vocal and opinionated politicaly interested people. They turned social discussion into power wars. It shuts down open communication which in turn locks people into their own little bubbles.
Free speech is required for free discussion which is required for authenticity which is required for interest in others.
@@vkpfp0kx1flmwmygWhen you can't come up with a rebuttal but you really wanna "own" people online
I hate that the whole “taking the blood of my son” thing is quite possibly the Least Weird Thing about this guy
the vampire comment seems more worryingly accurate now
what's weird about an experimental therapy? he's experimenting, he didn't do it for teh lulz. when the data showed that it didn't work for him, he stopped.
@@real_pattern the word 'experimental' is doing some heavy lifting in this sentence for sure
@@strangejune yes, experimenting is a core concept in what this dude's doing. do you happen to know a-priori which mechanisms may have which effects without experimenting? this is how empirical understanding progresses.
the kneejerk response of 'ewwy yucky, omg he's so weird and different' and inferring from those pre-reflective vibes that there's something morally wrong here at all is cringe & low iq tribal bs.
@@real_pattern It's the whole "taking the blood of your son" thing that's weird
guy who has never heard of literally any folk tale about seeking immortality: gee i cant believe no one has ever tried just not dying before!!!
I mean that seems like kind of a silly thing to base morals on. There’s lots of folks tales about ppl getting punished for questing authority figures or women trying to he independent but we wouldn’t consider those good reasons to see those things as bad.
@@ataraxia7439 oh for sure but my point was that he seems to think that trying to not die is just. something we've never tried before. like his logic doesn't make sense, he condemns how humans have always come up with stories to cope with death and conveniently ignores that a lot of those stories in folk tales revolve around ppl trying to cheat death and being punished, of like. alchemists. like bro has never heard of alchemy.
@@ollie4716he doesn't think that, and we never did try 'not dying' this way. our age is quite different from the ages from when those folk tales originate.
I can't believe someone didn't consider what folk tales had to say when trying to do something
certified gilgamesh moment
This is going to end like a Greek tragedy, isn't it? The man who feared death so much he forgot to live.
Hates his humanity, but wants to continue living indefinitely, terrified of death but spends all his time thinking about it.
I don’t think he realizes that he’s literally going to be a cautionary tale of the hubris of trying to live forever, much like a classic folktale he does not take into account
@@onyx6904 I'm not sure he actually thinks he'll live forever, he seems more interested living healthy as long as he can, which I don't think is an inherently bad desire.
@@RyvreRandom No, he hs explicitly stated that he wants to continue to live forever.
Like he admits that this isn't possible to achieve right now, so currently he is only attempting to live for as long as possible, but he is fully convinced that in the near future procedures will be available that truly reverse a body's age and allow someone to live in perpetuity. It's extremely nutty.
@@RyvreRandomignoring your feelings at every turn is inherently bad, and will absolutely lead to overwhelming remorse at old age
@@RyvreRandom Does he seem healthy in any way to you?
I very much agree with your point albeit with the caveat that he's *literally* probably going to just die at a normal time
my dear god in heaven
this man is the embodiment of missing out on life for the sake of living
In running from death, it consumes his every thought.
@@ItWasSaucerShaped I thought that too, if the only way to outlive the life expectancy is to stick to a struck regimen of constant exercise, fasting, and then only eating specific selected healthy foods with little taste with vitamins, then why live??
Or maybe he's a smooth liar selling a product he doesn't consume. He probably smokes a bunch of weed when nobody is looking.
My intuition says he feels deeply, despairingly cut off and alone and that his life once he dies will have been totally meaningless. All this measuring and reporting and worshipping immortality is his way of feeling connected, his assurance that he will be seen and remembered.
@@monroe7532 There's much more to life than gorging on poisonous, highly processed "food".
I'd been researching Mormonism independantly when this video dropped, and it really hits the nail on just how "American" the religion feels to me. The weird mix of Calvinist asceticism, awkward culturally confused mythology and unrestrained grift-friendly capitalism represents the psyche that permeates a lot of American culture in a way only the greatest satirist could come up with. Very insightful video, I love your conclusion and it overall made me feel much more at peace with myself.
Ooh if you're researching Mormonism you should definitely look into the time they tried to make a communist like compound. Lots of crazy history.
The modern state of the Mormon church is plenty crazy on its own, but the history is even more bizarre
As a mexican with an ex mormon fanily, it is really creepily american, it has terrible vibes with the super white jesus and angels teaching native americans how to be good.
@@cactus2260 i never heard about that last part, whaaat
My dad id mormon and I was exposed to it early and I’d describe it as the original Flying Saucer Cult, with Mason aftertaste.
@@jonathanedwardgibson Yeah it's just lucky to be one of the first American cults, before people knew any better
A weirdly waxy looking, scarred man with a surfer haircut trying to sell us a life without sunlight on your skin or surprise pizza parties as a utopian future would be a hilarious premise if it weren't so fucking cruel.
Hahahaha, I got a mental image of a deranged Capitan Planet slapping pizza slices out of children's hands during a birthday party all the while mumbling about being immortal. My thanks to you.
@@neckpeck2738
pizza…..
american children, more than a half of them are overweight to obese.
You can't drop something like "what heaven could be higher than watching the flowers bloom every spring" in a video essay and walk away
Bryan's whole deal really reminds me of deep depression: hating being alive but terrified of dying. In the past, when I've felt such feelings, the idea of joining a monastery or the Armed forces has seemed appealing because of the lack of decision making. Depression can make decision making impossible so having an "algorithm" tell you what to do could be appealing. However, by doing that you've stopped living (at least IMO)
Really excellent video (congrats on the engagement :) )
I mean removing the cognitive load of mostly unimportant decisions is useful outside of depression too 😅
Many busy or stressed people create routines that basically achieves this, Bryan just took the time to design his more towards health than most.
another nerd trying to psycho analyze, ur not dr house bro.
@@maddiekits "Health"
@@anzaia2164 yes he sleeps and eats well and exercises. do you?
@@tophatv2902well put 🤣
the end of this resonated with me so hard. i'm about to graduate with a degree in genetics. i could help people with cancer, with rare diseases, anything medical at all to be honest. but i know that there is no research i could undertake, no therapy i could design, nothing, that would save as many lives as just giving people clean water, something we could do at any time. i don't know what to do with that but bryan is exactly who i never want to help
@hayward325 I have been getting more and more disillusioned with a certain sect of scientist in center circles. I was raised Pentecostal and became pretty heavily atheist/left. Still consider myself a leftist but the older I get, the more I realize- we could have had as close to a utopia as is possible, 1,000, 2,000, perhaps even 5,000 years ago. The problem isn't how dense our fertilizers are or theory on microbes, though those things certainly *facilitate* well-being and happiness.
99.99% of humanity's suffering comes from individuals disdain and cruelty to one another ):
@@marcomoreno6748 I think its more deeper and systematic than that. There's every day people who help out each other, I've seen homeless people give each other the clothes on their back to each other, I've seen people who have more voulunteer and help out others bc they want to. It's just the greedy people who hoard resources and make money poisoning us (like fracking or corporate media where they pit people against each other). I really suggest getting in contact with your local community and helping out with what they need, you'll become more disillusioned with the system but you'll see the good in every day people.
Start a business that digs wells in West Africa. They need it. I used to do development work there. A well CAN be dug fairly cheaply, but you must shore up the walls with cement. A village can shred hand pumps faster than you can fix them, so a side business of teaching local blacksmiths (that's a family clan people are born into) how to repair and sand cast parts is necessary. They can come up with junk metal to melt and cast, no problem. Trickier things to make are pulleys that don't wear so fast. They make their own 'buckets' out of old inner tubes and wire, so that's all set. They must be taught how to assemble a cast hand pump by properly tightening the 4 screws SLOWLY clockwise so not to crack the whole thing! A smart village car repairman will know about this from working on engine blocks. You don't even need to travel in country, they have cell phones. I saw a very clever pic of homemade wifi using a plastic water bottle and moped parts. They are very clever similarly to Cubans and can kludge and fix anything given enough time. They're hungry to learn. Please, give this a sincere thought.
@@2degucitas “They are very clever” is not a phrase we usually apply to people
@@VultureSkins Why? Is it paternalistic? Yeah, my bad.
My family left the Mormon church a few years ago in the fallout of my coming out. Once you brought up the fact that Bryan had left the church, everything slotted into place for me. I was impressed how well you were able to articulate what it feels like to leave Mormonism despite never having done it. All ex-mormons are in the pursuit of a replacement for the Heavenly Father they grew up with. When you've grown up in a religion that intense, you become unable to function unless you're worshipping something. Whatever is nearby at the time is what tends to fill the vacuum. For Bryan it's this wild goose chase in pursuit of eternal life. For my parents, it's psychedelics and capital A Atheism. For some of my friends, it's been far right conspiracies. I feel lucky that my queerness let me land in the social justice / leftist space like I did.
Fantastic video, and congratulatuons on the engagement!
I feel strangely fortunate that my autism made me disinterested in patriarchy, I kinda gave up tradition and social roles before I even left the church. Because of that I never felt particularly traumatized or boxed in by the way I was raised.
May I interest you in tulpamancy or wider plurality? Notice how those thought patterns behave... That's a big reason why I left. I had a better explanation than they did, and I'm too cynical to act solely on "trust me bro" or bandwagon fallacy vibes.
Now that you talk about it, psychedelics seem like they might be better than my trash obsession!
@Ttt-n1w goddamn i dont think ive heard the word tulpamancy in like a decade. thats a thing thats still kicking about?
I’ve been out for a long time now and I feel like at some point you stop needing whatever your initial replacement for the church was and you kinda level out
I’m an ex-Mormon therapist in Utah who helps people deconstruct and find their own meaning and belonging again after leaving the church and this video just made SO much click into place for me
Wow, you're doing important work!! That's amazing
@@lily_lxndr Thanks for saying so. It’s tough working as a therapist in this state, I’m currently on a maternity leave I may or may not come back from lol
As an eating disorder survivor, hearing his morning routine really reminds me of an ED mindset...
@@EosFunk Yeah I’m glad I’m not the only one who was thinking that
Seriously checking and judging your body first thing in the morning is horrible
The whole thing kinda does. This idea that you have to conquer your own body with its wants and needs as a way to get control over something in a world that is completly out of your control is so familiar!
Fortunately he doesn't have an eating disorder :)
@@bananbanan6520 Eating disorders are at their core defined by a well, disordered relationship with food and eating.
He body checks. He obsessively weighs himself. He doesnt allow himself to eat anything outside of what he designated as "good". Its not healthy or normal to do that.
Or feel contempt for yourself, past, present or future for eating things like doughnuts. Or pizza parties.
The forms of disorders popular in media is mainly bulimia or anorexia.
But a common form is orthorexia. And it tends to be overlooked because its a form of obsession with eating what is considered healthy foods.
And often it looks like what that guy is doing.
Another mistake people make is thinking you only form disordered eating patterns from body image issues. You can also form it due to overwhelming anxiety and stress from feeling like you have a lack of control. So your brain latches onto food and controlling that aspect of your life.
An example of something like that... Oh lets say for example. An overwhelming fear of death.
He considers eating cookies and staying awake violent? Then im the most violent person ever.
RULES OF NATURE 🍪💀🍪
You're a villain I tell you
@@aqua-bery when you will also turn 45 and you lose a couple hours of sleep, you'll see how this is violent.
@@LimeyLassen Thanks I'm going to hear that in my head for a week lol.
You are such an evil person😅
I know this was a small part of the video but the amount of men that leave their s/os when they find out they have cancer is so incredibly disheartening... for him specifically, it seems like her having cancer made him have a singular negative feeling so he had to eliminate her from his life
I don't think it's that this negative feeling was "singular," in the sense of it being his only negative feeling. I think her cancer diagnosis hit a fear so deep and overwhelming for him that he couldn't stand to be around her anymore.
@@saraknox1631 that explains most of it but I don't get why he still tried to make her pay for his attorney fees
@@airplanes_aren.t_real The same reason any rich person extracts money from the poor or disenfranchised, I'd imagine. There's not really a whole lot of thought which has to go into that in particular.
@@zhl8009 and what is the reason?
@@airplanes_aren.t_real Power is nothing but the illusion of control. To pay legal fees is to acknowledge a system outside of your control.
Im an exmormon, i mentally left the church before i was an adult and i had the go to therapy for years to unpack all the religious trauma and bs the church ground into me.
Bryan has very clearly not done this work. "The natural man is an enemy to god" is a very commonly quoted mormon scripture, it basically means that you should never trust anything you want or feel or think because it is evil. Which is to say, i think you are spot on about his inferiority complex/inability to trust his base wants along with his fear of both life and death and how they stem from his former beliefs. Even his horrific misogyny can easily be traced back to the church, where women are treated like property. He may have left mormonism, but oh boy did the mormonism not leave him.
I feel so bad for Lena
He started deconstructing from religion but stopped the process halfway. He still thinks in terms of purity and sin, the separation of human beings from nature and the rest of the animal kingdom and he still seeks salvation: to achieve some kind of perfection and eternal life. It is kind of sad.
I wonder where I actually got my belief that humans are a part of the world, and therefore inseparable from other animals, and I don’t believe immortality is possible whatsoever except in extremely technical terms about some cnidarians. I can’t understand why people believe otherwise, it’s just a fact that many do and personally I think it’s completely wrong, just like how someone deeply convinced that humans are somehow higher or other than animals are thoroughly convinced I must be wrong.
I still deal with christian guilt, I'm also an ex-Mormon. It's very complex. And look, I've also been in therapy for years. 😢
The things bro will do to avoid just going to therapy. I know it's awkward opening up to a complete stranger, but I promise you, many are there to help. I'm glad you're putting your health first, but some wounds need to be let in, sat down, and made aware of. You don't have to make friends with your demons, but you do have to have a conversation with them.
E: on a separate note, congrats on getting engaged! That's so exciting, and may your years be filled with love and joy and success and laughter.
@sopranophantomista I feel like for a lot of rich people, having too much money is a bandaid that prevents actual introspection and personal growth.
@@sopranophantomista so condescending lol
he reminds me of the desperate efforts i went through to repress my gender dysphoria. i earned graduate degrees and ran marathons, filling up my day with work, study, meditating and training runs. i didn’t know i was running away from myself until i stopped.
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Is he just supposed to rather waste time on youtube then
@@bananbanan6520 wdym
I mean I don't think it is necessarily a really bad thing you do earn a lot this way, at that point even if you realize your "true self" the things you have done will always already become a part of you. It is also sometimes the necessary part of the process, as said there is no rebirth if there is no death, when everything seems hopeless whether it is reality hitting you or just noticing you are still alive you still have to move on.
I had similar problem with something entirely different. I did a lot of things but I don't think I regret them eventually.
Me too, not the marathons HOLY SHIT respect to u, just wanna say you're not alone ❤
I don't even think this guy needs to get very deep into the humanities. He just needs to like... watch Wall•E
Watching wall-e just made me more into seeking immortality so I doubt that would be effective for him 😅
Learning more about natural sciences would also help. Most tech bros ignore real physical reality
he would just reinterpret anything he sees to fit into his ideology
@@notarabbit1752 maybe, but also theres a chance something could click mentally for him, and it would trigger an actual “want” to change on his part :)
Watch Soul instead? xD but yeah
Amazing video. And so cool you were able to find a strange and weird person to be the voice of Bryan Johnson.
I KNEW it was yoooouuuu!!!
The Voices are Good.
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I will never stop being irritated about millionaires who spend their fortunes making themselves miserable and drag us all along for the ride.
People say we're in a new Gilded Age, but at least Carnegie & Rockefeller conducted philanthropic endeavors. Can any of these new tech bro millionaires/billionaires say they helped to build a library? A university in their name? I think not.
@@thirdcoinedge Billionaires now engage in "philanthropic altruism" which is when they establish charities with the goal of "doing the most good for the most people with the least money." And wow, it's so odd how every single time the charity figures out that the greatest good is investing in infinite money glitches so that the charity always exists.
Oh, and the billionaire will use their charity to cheat on taxes, except it's perfectly legal for them to do it so redditors will "uhm actually" you when you call it what it is.
I think he first did this it made some kind of improvement or perceived improvement and now he’s seeing himself get better while the world sees him as getting worse but nothing can be said and him hear it. Like when your friend falls in love with a problem and everyone sees it but him. Or those people who become addicted to plastic surgery all they hear is the demons saying just do this one more thing it will all come together. They see no wrinkles everyone else sees a shiny plastic mask.
Shut the hell up. You're not here because of millionaires.
Shut up. You're not here because of millionaires.
its insane how he looks so alive in the photos he showed. he looks human. he literally exerts the essence of humanity in his old photos. while the current talking him looks like a soulless husk. already dead.
> From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal…
Steel. The relatively brittle alloy that is highly susceptible to corrosion. Between flesh and steel, steel would do well to not forget that it is forged and used in fleshy hands, and it is flesh that keeps steel from corroding and crumbling into rust. Compare biomass and steel, and steel in comparison is about as crude and simple as it gets. Steel doesn't heal. Without constant care and maintenance, steel just rots away.
@stm7810 the first parts of your post dont align with the rest - if they have advanced blah blah blah then you dont need to worry about the computer parts going bad because age - you woule bio-like processes to maintain them.
@@xBINARYGODx WH40k is satire
I had an uncle like that. Word salad and my family claimed he was highly intelligent. All I saw was a train wreck I needed to stay far away for my safety.
Why does word salad draw so many people in?
In part, I think it's because the media portrays smart people as those who say things that don't make sense to average people. The smart people in media then end up being right, because they're smart
That leads to people seeing lines of reasoning that they can't follow as being smart because they can't follow it.
@@alisonmercer5946 cause people are dumb lmao
i have an uncle like that too lmao it's amazing how many people will just fall for word salad
it's insane how often I see people use the term word salad in this way instead of accurately in the real life medical context
I've been listening to your videos while playing minecraft (in peaceful mode) for a few years now. When I started watching this video, I felt this oddly serene feeling and realized it's because I've began so associate you with minecraft and all that it encompasses within my heart.
At first I thought that your first sentence described all you have done for a few years and got worried.
…)
This is the sweetest thing ever
Deconstructing from a specific religion doesn't always mean deconstructing from magical thinking. Great video!
Leaving a specific religion doesn’t even always mean leaving *that religion.*
@@firetarrasque4667yeah I see SOOOO many of what one would call “hardcore reddit atheists” that were once Christian or Muslim or one of the other ones. Left. But still hold their views about gay people or women.
When I was deeply depressed and psychotic I too thought I had no human needs and needed nothing but to follow a strict inhuman routine.
(But I'm poor so I was institutionalized (and it helped, I'm better now))
Ex-Mormon here. Not surprised that Bryan was raised in the church. Even when I started disagreeing with its fundamentals, the fear of no longer believing in God and getting sent straight to "Outer Darkness," where I would no longer be able to see my family again, stuck with me. If you came to know the gospel either by being born into the church or hearing it from missionaries, but later chose to reject Christ's teachings, then there would be no hope for you. You had you're one shot. Only those who never got the chance to learn about and convert to the LDS faith will be able to do so after death, when they're visited by missionaries in purgatory. It's no wonder why people who grew up in the church, faced with this ultimatum, would be so afraid of dying.
Fortunately, my family and some of my neighbors were pretty lax about the church's instructions. My parents drank coffee and tea regularly and indulged in blue humor. In other households, a Dr. Pepper was the most amount of caffeine that they'd allow teenagers to have, but seeing the butt of a cartoon character would cross the line. It did make leaving the church somewhat easier for me than I assume other people, but that didn't make the stigma of enjoying life's many pleasures any less palpable.
Thank you for the video!
You might enjoy the Cults to Consciousness podcast
Lily just tricked me into watching a nearly 90-minute video about being human and honestly I'm happy she did.
such a queen
The midlife crises of delusional tech bros are going to destroy humanity. Truly the worst timeline
Trump moves his head at exactly the right moment and gets his ear grazed by a bullet.
We are spiraling down the worst timeline tree. If things start getting better, I wish you well because I'm convinced that I'm doomed to lose all my coin flips.
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I am really grateful for this video. Without getting too deep into it, because I want to be mindful about revealing his identity, I've gotten to know a man recently in a professional context who believes he's never going to die. He thinks that AI is going to save all of humanity from all of their problems, and stop death in its tracks, and he just needs to hold out for 5-10 more years. He's deep in the tech landscape and is surrounded by people who all believe this to be true.
I've had hours and hours of conversation with him, and it's made me feel absolutely insane. It's so clear to me that he is deeply afraid of dying and unwilling to engage with it. He's a hardcore "atheist," but he's essentially developed a messiah figure (AGI) that's going to right humanity's wrongs and save him from suffering. It's baffling, and a bit scary.
I'm grateful to see someone else go down the rabbit hole into this ideology so I can think about it all more clearly.
I think it makes a lot of sense from a utilitarian perspective to try to defeat death with technology. it seems like people by and large don’t want to die, or want to go out on their own terms, and the acceptance of death, while a fundamental part of the human experience up to this point, is sort of a cultural coping mechanism to deal with the fact that we don’t have the means to extend a life as long as we want.
That said, anybody in this day and age who is genuinely using that remote possibility of a technological escape from death as a way to avoid the hard process of accepting their own I feel sorry for. I don’t think it’s theoretically impossible to find and reverse mechanisms for aging, I just think there are so many of them and they are so deeply baked into biology we have no idea how to influence that we are nowhere close. I don’t think it’s impossible to create a human-like artificial intelligence, but I do think it’s basically impossible to take a flesh and blood human brain and simulate it with enough detail that it will effectively be a digital recreation of that person. the obstacle is the precision of measurement, not the difficulty of simulation (the digital brain can take as long as it wants to model the original human brain, and we’d just perceive at a different time scale)
Hmm. I am not entirely dissimilar to that person. I am an atheist and afraid of death (these seem like inescapable and obvious conclusions.. there's obviously no god and death is scary). I do think about "the singularity" a lot, but I try to be self-aware because I have read a lot of scifi and work in machine learning so obviously, these are things I'm going to be heavily biased towards.
Even accounting for this I do think AI is the biggest existential threat to mankind. But I don't think it automatically happens the right way, and I don't think I am automatically saved if it happens. Though some small part of my brain hopes for it - only because it's the only plausible way I could be saved in a meaningful sense. It's more of a hail mary than the inevitable glorious future.
But I don't think it's baffling, or scary. It's a kind of natural evolution of the extremely normal human tendency to magical thinking and seeking for greater meaning and life after death. I certainly don't think it's baffling or scary when my mom talks about jesus (even though the idea that the judeo christian god could be real is absurd to me). At the end of the day it very well might just be a nerd religion but.. can't we just have it?
@@johnk6757 agree
@@johnk6757 Why is death scary? Every time you go to a dreamless sleep you briefly dip into something that death most likely feels like. What are you afraid of? The 'nothing'? And the philosopher Seneca asked: does your non-existence before your birth scare you? Do you remember any suffering? No, you don't. You don't feel any kind of way about it, even though you're aware of lives being lived before you were even there. Are you sad for missing out? Death is the same. You return to the perfectly neutral non-existence. Being dead won't hurt, and life around you will keep on going just like it did before you were born. Some fear is warranted, all biological matter tries to survive, but as a species who is capable of thinking abstractly about existence, when you truly think about life and death, then death really isn't any more scary than the act of being born or the act of living. 'Death is scary' you say. I ask again, does the time before your birth fill you with dread? Does dreamless sleep? You didn't know you were going to be born, and whilst sleeping, you don't know you're guaranteed to wake up. So what's so scary about death? You'll be gone, there won't be a 'you' to have to worry about missing out on the world.
@@Killjoy_Mel What an incredibly terrible argument. Death is the absence of experiences I want to enjoy. I want to enjoy as many experiences as possible, ergo I want to delay death as much as possible.
"removing me from myself is the best thing i ever done" is so heartbreaking
the stuff he eats for breakfast looks like what my friend had to give her guinea pig when she (the guinea pig) got too old and her teeth too worn down to properly chew normal guinea pig food.
“I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I’ll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1,000 now. After I remove the ice pack, I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water-activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face, an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm, followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.”
-Bryan Johnson
… probably
I wanted to ask if this isn't similar to American Psycho, then thought it might be, then realize it is, and damn what a true comparison.
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices
When we whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rat's feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar
Exact thought I had watching his morning routine. I wonder if he compares business cards, too.
Bryan has so clearly never even tried to engage with anything other than generating or accumulating capital. Like surely if you were going to live forever you would want to take some pottery classes or like learn to knit or something. Instead he wants to spend eternity doing bizarre masochistic routines and trials that help nobody but himself and to me that seems fucking miserable. It's being alive without living. It's cowardly.
*Also side note, if I were in 'After Life' the memory I would chose to take with me is the time my friend and I took our dogs to the local creek after a major flood when we were both 9 or 10 without telling either of our parents and trying to cross it to go exploring on the other bank. Except my friend let go of her crusty little white dog about half way across and had to recuse him but in the process lost her shoe and so we spent 45 minutes trying to rescue her shoe from a fast-moving flooded creek because she refused to walk back home without it. And then once we finally found her shoe and headed back to our respective houses, my mum spotted us in front of the local milk bar and bailed us both up because she thought we'd gone missing/been kidnapped because we hadn't told anyone where we were going or for how long and had been about to call the police (this was around 2011/2012 and most 9-10 year olds didn't have phones - certainly not anyone I knew did). I have no clue why this memory in particular is the one I would want to carry around forever but it is.
Amazing choice of memory! And I think it would make a great movie, which helps
He actually does spend a decent amount of time on other hobbies, his longevity stuff is just his 'new work' in a way.
As a programmer it drives me fucking nuts that people treat technology like magic, and that it's in large part because capitalists see it as good marketing
computer science IS the closest technology get to magic
@@hasanmuttaqin464notably, computer science is not a product of capitalism.
Instead, Capitalists desperately try to apply said 'magic' into a money sucking device.
@@Dong_Harvey true, but unlike everything else where they just pad up something, capitalist just love conputer science to an unhealthy degree, this result in the birth of many tech millionares, which in turn drag the progress backward
@@hasanmuttaqin464 the next thing closest to whatever is still not the thing it's closest to. Why even bother commenting like that?
1:24:24 okay I have so many comments on this vid but as a person that loves creating the photorealistic eyes, the beauty is also in the experience of drawing. It just feels good to make the thing. Like yeah I *could* add an interpretation, but I don't feel like I need to. The thing is already enough for me.
Artistic expression should not have to rest on mastery. I'm not showing my paintings at a gallery, but they do the trick for a spot on the wall, and the doing is fun.
The part about how he treated his fiancé Taryn Southern… holy shit what a vile man. To be so unbelievably cruel to your partner when they’re dealing with cancer… just why?!
TARYN SOUTHERN??? I used to follow her a long time ago. This is crazy
Archetypal narcissist. That was the big tell, such an aggrandised self.
And it's worth noting that he left his ex-wife when he left the church so he could live his ridiculous life in peace
As a computer science guy, I'm sorry about this guy. As a philosophy guy, I'm sorry _for_ this guy.
The urge to optimize, to be efficient, to get parts of life down to exactly what's necessary is one that I feel as well. It shows up in my life in small ways all the time. But I know that it's not really a Healthy Thing. It's very useful but it's hard to turn off and there are a lot of things that just can't be optimized and even more that shouldn't. Johnson is that on steroids and I apologize on behalf of the CS guys.
But what I find really interesting psychologically and philosophically about Johnson is how he talks about consciousness and choice. It's very revealing says he's trying to run his life like an algorithm so that waking up and doing his routine is autopilot. He doesn't want to think, and not just in the sense of transcending the profane. He doesn't want to think because living with his own thoughts is absolutely terrifying and doing anything to avoid those thoughts is necessary. I know because it's how I act when I am deeply depressed. How I'm living right now. Anything except living in the moment. Mormonism might have directed his life path but I suspect it's the terror of death that has shaped _how_ he does it. Making himself a lab rat? "Algorithmizing" his life, collecting all of these statistics, constantly checking them, removing the need to choose what to do? It's just tech-speak for doing the same thing I do. The algorithm is just rules to unthinkingly follow. Turning everything into numbers and data is just a way to live in a numerical abstraction rather than your own experience. And that's an awful way to live. I really do feel bad for him that he feels like he needs to live like this. It's not really living.
You may, or may not I don't know, appreciate this comment, but personally I'm really tired of tech people referring to biology in broad computer terms. No, DNA is not a "programmable code". The brain in no way "functions just like a computer". Stuff like that. Not only is it untrue it cheapens what biology actually is and does. "Input" and "stimuli" are not the same thing. Sure, you can build computer systems that are gross simulacra of biological systems, but that system isn't "alive", not anywhere close to it. And I'm of the belief it will never be. This type of thinking also leads to absolutely bizarre conclusions that we see emerging in almost all companies. Users aren't "people" anymore, with all the mess that comes with that, but rather "agents" that can be funneled through The Algorithm™️. When you reach that level of abstraction, that level of dehumanization, you get things like Facebook having no problem causing massive damage, because they're not "hurting people"...they're "herding agents" in the most brutally efficient ways to make money off them. It's all so gross.
@@ChristopherSadlowskiit's laughable that they think they are gonna be able to live forever in a few years.
yeah, i'm depressed too and his emphasis on automating his life and avoiding thinking and avoiding "evening brian" just screams inability to deal with his feelings. this guy needs therapy, not to run his life like this. if anything, his entire routine is making his life worse. feeling like a lab rat doesn't cure depression. it just pushes the depression further down the road for you to deal with later.
I feel like there's too much judgement going on here. There are lots of ways to live and you have no idea if he is fulfilled or not. Also, a lot of people believe there is peace in routine and removing choice. He has taken it to an incredible extreme but it IS his life after all. The idea being that you free up your cognitive energy for other things when you don't have to choose e.g. what to eat or wear. And I'm sure his mind is plenty busy with other things.. he's a billionaire
I find it funny how often folks that have delved into very logical or optimizing processes (mathematics, CS, often science) find a certain need to pull back from that tendency. I wonder if there's a similarity to a martial artist knowing peace or conflict avoidance.
I have a lot of black and white thinking that studying maths helped me channel into a good outlet. It helped me not be that in my daily life by showing me where such thinking was more appropriate. Your comment got me thinking about how discipline can soften our views. Maybe as a philosophy guy you can understand or say what I'm getting at here better, but I appreciate reading your comment.
I'm not sure how a collection of businesses based on consumer electronics and internet commerce managed to label themselves as "tech" as if that represents even a large slice, let alone a majority of technological advancement.
"You should invest in biotech now because it's as smart as investing in microsoft in the 70s"
Y'all. Get your analogy straight. Investing in a random biotech company would be like investing in a random "tech company" in the 70s. Even assuming it is going to be the next big thing, there's a good chance you ain't picking Microsoft 2
No offense to Bryan but I don't think it's working since he kinda looks like the guy who got bitten in a zombie film and doesn't want to tell anybody
He looks like the androids in the Alien movies
@@popejaimie I can see him doing the Ash thing with the magazine.
If you look at from when he started blueprint to current day there's a significant improvement especially in his face
@@aromata1 how long ago was that? (/gen)
@@aromata1 Is there though? Is there?? Because he went from looking like someone healthy for his age to like he had his skin replaced with wax. He looks like if I touch him at all, he will crumble on the spot.
I often think about how privileged I am to be born in an age where I can have access to projects like this video. This level of deep intellectual analysis, as a young adult trying to figure life out, is absolutely invaluable to me. I think I'll pick up the Nebula subscription with my next paycheck. Thank you for the work that you do!!
I think you're overreacting a bit
death is not antagonistic to life, but rather a mechanism thereof-bryan's body "wants to become dirt", which is of course a continuation of the messy, complex, and evolving material condition of profane life.
this is the source of bryan's aversion to death, which is that he hates Life, he hates pleasure, he hates his ex-fiancee, he probably hates his kids, and as such seeks an undeath, a death-outside-of-life, a total inertness, a Total Death like plastic, or like cancer. the death of actual living bodies is his greatest enemy for this reason; death forces us to be something else, death forces us to unpredictable nonreproductive futures, death forces us to keep being life
beautiful video, thank you for committing to the project of life
Actually, I think people are averse to death because it is deeply unfortunate to be dead. You do not need to mysticise this.
@stm7810 nowhere did i say that death is _morally good_ (at least not without a context for it). i actually don't want to die anytime soon if i can help it. not particularly because i love being _alive_ (though I do) but because i love being _myself_ . i love my projects and ambitions and memories, which are the actual things death ends, in giving space to other possible projects/ambitions/memories. it's just that death of "a life" is not the same thing as the end of the conditions of life.
bryan johnson is, yes, a millionaire who abuses people and reinforces hierarchy. but he also is a man who *Hates Life* as revealed by his _particular_ aversion to death. these two notions are unsurprisingly very intertwined and not mutually exclusive at all.
lastly, as i mentioned, at least one person is stopping me from experiencing death and that person is me. you should consider if you mean what you say, that wanting to live is good, when you insinuate that i ought to kill myself. to which ethics of Life are you holding yourself to?
@stm7810 i hear what you're saying, i'm very familiar with the political value of "bodily autonomy" as a trans person. i have a couple points of complication that might be interesting to think along
1. i think the body is a far more contestable territory than we would like to admit. "only for me to choose" what happens to it-but then there are political demands at stake, right? if i am to take hormones, or to get an abortion, or a surgery, *somebody* has to provide these services for me. if i am to eat, there must be some other organism that i am willing to kill and consume, because i am heterotrophic. already upon being born the body is a contested space-and every moment you inhabit a space, or drink water, or eat something, is a moment that "autonomy" is *not granted* to others.
the question of bodily autonomy also has odd standing for disability, as it implies in the "auto" a very individualistic approach to the powers and limits of the will-we especially see this hitch when it comes to the "autonomy" of people with intellectual disabilities... just in being alive we are in a broad contact with the world, constantly in encounter with other beings, and not always without violence, but moreover, not always without _vulnerability_ .... and again, this intersects in a funny way with the mind-there is no mind-body dualism, so the question is to what extent we can have "autonomy" over our own minds, what we view as violences, etc... there is no uncomplicated universality to bodily autonomy, without retreat into the least productive kind of utopianism. i'd even argue bodily autonomy is a sign that only has meaning in the negative sense of _body horror_ -access to abortion is _bodily autonomy_ only in the sense that lack of access to abortion is _body horror_ .
2. i think while the discussion of the "right" to bodily autonomy can be a very valuable tool, we have to understand "rights" themselves as attempts to essentialize what they actually are: Demands. when you or i say "i choose when i die" we actually make a political demand that that choice be ours, and all the powers of making it so be ours, regardless of the desires of others. which Bryan Johnson also makes as a demand-but then one wonders whose demands are unheard that provide him his healthcare, his wealth, his food... the ethics of the situation is less directly inscribed in the body itself, but more in the relational power dynamics and allegiances involved in the _project_ of living forever... instead of focusing on bodily autonomy as a positive universal, we could engage with Jasbir Puar's concept of "debility", which describes oppressive power structures that write limits of power into the body. examples might be war zones that produce bodies without limbs; my inability to acquire hormones at my own pace (why not at the grocery store!) because the state-medical complex _specifically disempowers me_ so; the immobility forced upon Palestinian subjects by the Israeli occupation.
3. maybe a bit more esoteric, but, following from my points in previous comments, i would argue that to alive forever is not quite to be *oneself* living forever-even if you manage to live for a thousand, two thousand, three thousand years, its entirely possible that your politics, desires, ambitions, identity, would all change, as would the field of the world upon which identities and projects are formed at all. at which point we wonder what the being living forever even _is_ -i might argue that the only constant would be the Human Shape of the body, or the imagining of the body as human at all. whether or not we value that depends on one's stance on humanism or anthropocentrism.
i'm not going to keep writing essays in youtube comment sections (i do it _autonomously_ to help myself think along concepts, really!) but i recommend reading _Staying with the Trouble_ by Donna Haraway to counter humanist valuations of the body; _Brilliant Imperfections_ by Eli Clare, for a really interesting work in disability justice engaging critically with the concept of cure; Jaspir Puar's _The Right to Maim_ in which the concept of debility is really fleshed out; and _The Vegetarian_ by Han Kang, which is a short novel about a woman who wants to become more plantlike (i.e. autotrophic). my reading of johnson here is of course brief and rudimentary but draws from deleuzian understandings of thanatos and eros vs a fascist-paranoid death drive. cheers
@stm7810 x2 everybody here is just coping so hard. They say stuff like "if you dont accept death then you hate living and hate your dog" "death is whay gives life meaning". But they say it just because they know they cant avoid dying, when they get sick they go to the doctor, they look both sides befoe crossing the street, etc.
sorry about how hateful and reductive the people in this thread have been. i think your writing is interesting. the ‘esoteric’ section of your comment on bodily autonomy especially resonated with me (us?)
Keep doing what you do.
Quality of life is always more important than length.
Been doing a routine similar to His and my quality of life has probably tripled soooooo I think he might have that down too 😅
@@maddiekits just eat healthy and exercise. Strange I didn't need a rich dude to tell me that to know that will improve my health
@@KateeAngel Sure that is a great idea for most people, but a more specialized regime is the only thing that has helped my chronic health conditions even though I was already doing the normal stuff :3
Tell my ex that HA!
I'm only 20 minutes in so far, and already, as a trans person, I can't help but recognize something in this guy's bizarre relationship with his own body, some kind of disconnect that he has to have with his own sense of self in order to be okay with reducing himself to numbers and powders and weirdass nihilist bs. I don't think he's literally trans of course, I just think it's interesting the way cis men can jump through all these hoops to justify their own existence to themselves because for them it's just easier to deny their emotions than accept that something is deeply wrong (regardless of if that Wrong Thing is that he's an egg or if he's just depressed).
Idk, all of this to justify this joke: maybe the next chemical he should try is estrogen?
exactly what i thought, and if not estrogen, maybe change your style?
@@thearchitect813 but like... totally tho. it reminds me of trixie and katya reacting to "how to be a cult leader" and commenting on how one of the cult leaders was fully doing gender play with his injectables and style requirements for the cult
some cis men (speaking from experience) are terrified to recognize that there's something wrong with manhood
@@thearchitect813 "maybe the next chemical he should try is estrogen?"
You're never gonna believe this but he literally is taking estrogen
I thought he already used estrogen gel for his skin. Gives him that Tilda Swinton look, which is really the best thing about his appearance.
Not wanting your body to fall apart and die is not gender dysphoria.
Although sure you could call all of this "gender affirming care", with the idea of youth and vitality being so tied up in masculinity
I would definitely sum up my reaction to this man's existence and choices as disgust, particularly in his treatment of Lena. The demand for legal fees after already having successfully destroyed her life is perhaps one of the most callous actions I have ever had described to me. There is a derangement here which falls outside my capacity for description. To hold in contempt all joy and compassion; to waste monumental discipline in a petty effort to shill supplements. I can hardly imagine a more pointless existence.
That, perhaps, is the problem: he has to survive because it is all that he has. The body must continue because there is nothing inside of it.
I dunno, it feels kind of in character for him, at least to me. I’ve definitely heard of similar threats made during divorces or nasty mergers but I don’t think I’ve seen someone go thru with it. It speaks to the level of self hatred i guess. Since bullying comes from self hatred and bigotry being externalized, it makes sense that a man who so obviously is obsessed with running from himself and his inadequacies would absolutely obliterate people in their way and laugh about it.
(I also never considered that those people who are that cruel to wring a human being dry and laugh at their earnest trust probably think of their own bodies the same way they treated mine. Small comfort at least)
@@swagathachristie5242 I don't find it confusing. I was only remarking on how utterly contemptible an existence it is. Usually even in horrible people I can discover some redeeming quality: a deep curiosity, an odd passion, a spark of the human spirit. In this man there is simply nothing to latch onto. He has placed himself firmly beyond the ability to be connected with in any meaningful sense. He got his wish; I can no longer see him as a person.
A chillingly accurate and amazing breakdown of how Mormon beliefs feed into what this guy is doing - even some things I didn't think of while hearing people talk about him, and I was raised a Provo-born Mormon. Great work as always ~
I grew up mormon and left in my early 20s (7+ years ago) after having done the mission, the temple marriage, going to BYU (I actually graduated after leaving while pretending to still believe. It was awkward being there, but tuition is super cheap for members).
A few months after leaving the whole "I don't know what my life's purpose is and also death is terrifying" thing came crashing in on me. I was completely paralyzed by existential dread. Every night I couldn't fall asleep because I was terrified to be alone with my thoughts, so instead I would just watch TV until I passed out. This went on for weeks I was really having a time of it until eventually I moved on past it. Later I would find different strategies and philosophies to help me accept death and cope with the knowledge.
All this to say, I understand the deep-seated fear that fills in the gap where belief in eternal life has gone away, it can be crippling. That said I've also seen a lot of people work though it and of all of them, this guy found the least (emotionally) healthy way to cope.
This dude is trying to invent The Borg. He is literally just imagining The Borg.
So, he's trying to create the Star Trek future?
One of my favorite human beings, my uncle, an artist just like me, passed away last night. Today was his funeral. I cannot comprehend how someone like this guy would Isolate himself from the shared experience of grief, especially the communal creation of the good and bad of the departed. I hope nobody close to him dies abruptly and if it happens I hope that he will find his humanity again.
I'm sorry for your loss & grateful for the time + emotion you shared with your uncle.
i really resonated with feeling like people like johnson are stealing my, our lives. so many tragedies in the world could be reversed but money is spent on stupid tech start ups. also im sorry about the fires last year, that was awful.
I'm often reminded of a scene in chainsaw man(spoilers) where the president of the united states makes a deal with the gun devil for him to kill makima in exchange for 1 year of every American, the idea that millions of people had their lives cut short by the same man that claimed he would protect them only for him to use that trust to further his own gains at their loss is horrifying
Are you actually stupid?
wearing my "don't die" {t-shirt} to a mental hospital
22:13 he doesn’t realize that “die eventually” is the ACTUAL most played game, right??? More people have died than people who haven’t???
I grew up Mormon and “capitalism as religion” sorta perfectly describes the church
Yeah
16:49 he may have left the church but the church certainly didn't leave him. still in search of god in a pretty fucked up way.
I've got a friend who claims to be free from the Catholic Church, but now it's all about Bitcoin.
Whats actually crazy to me is i am maybe 16 years younger than this guy and I will probably continue living years after he dies, and I will remember all this posturing, all these beliefs he has, and everything he had hoped for in his life. And I will remember him for a bit, and I think I will be sad.
No you probably won't
@@bananbanan6520 maybe you're right
@@smilleur Yes and no. Even if he lives longer than you.
You will have lived more than him. You will have made more friends, seen more places, seen the sun more. Enjoyed more food, tried new food. Tried new things.
Have had new experiences that change you physically and mentally.
And your goals are likely much more reachable than his.
Longer doesnt always mean fulfilling, yknow?
I think it makes a lot of sense that this guy says he was in a deep, suicidal depression before all of this. When you’re depressed, routine- purposely throwing away your humanity, in favor of BECOMING routine- it sounds SO appealing. You don’t have to worry about what you’re going to eat, when you’re going to sleep. Your obligations to your friends and family. Existing is so much easier when you aren’t required to act like a human being
Edit: 15:08 “I try to eliminate my conscious mind from decision making.” YUPPP. UH HUH.
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine."
When ur bouta go to bed but lily dropped 45 seconds ago
That exact same thing happened to me
@@qrywtr that’s exactly what happened to me
Lily's description of being pushed out of everyday life leading to a kind of avoidance, stemming from an immense will to live thwarted by deep sense of loss...
... it actually syncs up really well w/ a theory of melancholic depression that says it's a deep creativity where you (i might say im included in this 'you' as a disabled, autistic, multiply queer person) sense a loss so all-encompassing that all your creativity goes towards creative ways to mourn something that can't ever be fully mourned.
I think that might be where I'm headed, but i wonder if there's a way to accept "Shit Life Syndrome" without blaming myself for it :(
At least I'm not Bryan.
He seems pretty happy and genuine in person, he just has a over curated media image like many people in this class do tbh
@@kerycktotebag8164 what theory is this? :O
Queer, autistic, and multiply disabled, plus "spent my teenage years trying to cure my lingering christian trauma with an unverifiably optimistic faith in science to solve this fallen world." This whole thing made me feel seen - all my art is traumatic in ways I'm just now uncovering.
i've always thought he looked like a Wayland-Yutani replicant. I totally buy that it's intentional.
I watched several interviews with him and read the extensive content from his blueprint website. The comments from people on many videos featuring him are all very rich with praise, but I was just left disturbed by how out of touch he seemed to be with his own multifaceted mental illness. I saw a madman who was scared of the notion of death more than anyone I'd ever seen, driven by fear and anxiety, constantly searching for some elixir of life like a crazed person; intensely focused on trying to replicate his son's looks, odd posts of him boasting about how he's in the top x percentile of strength or youth similar to that of young boys, getting facials and treatments to look like some androgynous half man half woman half teen half old guy, hyper focused on isolating himself and getting rid of even the slightest "imperfection," clearly showing his unrest and inability to make peace with an imperfect world; he seemed absolutely unhinged. Him posing shirtless with his shirtless son all over his website left me feeling ick like he was a man refusing to give up youth gracefully, and in the midst of a mid life crisis except with a bunch of money and wacked out mind.
Congrats!
Saw that clown when the video started and my cave girl brain went “omg Lily girl what HAPPENED to you?” I think I need to go to bed. Great video, glad you haven’t turned into a ghostly self-loathing, blue-light emanating right-angled ghoul.
MORMONISM JUMPSCARE LMFAO NO WAY I CANT ESCAPE IT
I get church of Mormon ads on half my UA-cam videos these days lol
@@Necrophyllis. I get the Scientology piano class grifter ads all the time, but no LDS so far
oh look AI bros fundamentally misunderstanding what neural nets and machine learning is and can do lmao
explain
I feel ya. As someone who works with the stuff it drives me insane seeing tech bros conflate science fiction with reality.
@@therealOXOC machine learning (in its current most popular form) pumps out results based on the dataset it is trained on. It can’t miraculously manifest immortality. Machine learning is a scalpel. It can do something specific inhumanly well, but the second you try to make it do something it isn’t trained on, it falls apart. Machine learning is great for robotics, manufacturing, data processing and retrieval, etc. Not so good for creative solutions.
@@therealOXOC neural nets are mathematical functions that process the training dataset and return the closest answer to your input based on previous outputs. It cannot accomplish anything brand new
@@neyte7313 lol sounds like most humans
the moment where he was weighing himself reminded me so much of myself when ana was in the drivers seat. i hope he lives his life instead of missing out on it.
One critique - they call such rules for decision making in medical clinical practice "algorithms". They have "algorithms" for how to go about treating specific conditions based on the patient's risk and other factors. It seems more like he's using that language to appear more legitimate in terms of medical lingo than comparing himself to a computer algorithm.
@kristinapratt8983 no, that would counteract a single iota of judgement from this group, so it can't be correct.
The 40 seconds from 1:20:10 on describes my episodes where I "want to die" the most so accurately it's insane. It's not about wanting to die, it's about wanting something that isn't *this* so much that your mind just can't take it and you just... fall and detach. "A desire for life so extreme and overcome by a fear of loss that it locks itself away"' is probably the best way I've ever heard this be articulated.
The level of ortorexia this guy has reached is honestly one that feels impossible. But he's rich enough to do anything to himself, and mormon enough that his closest will not be intervening.
OMG this is exactly what i was thinking. this is orthorexia on absolutely epic proportions
god thank you for explaining what's up with this guy because i've seen people talk about Bryan online for a while but i've been too frightened of him to further investigate
15:12 that’s way too much. I go to gym 3x a week, drink lots of protein shakes, I try stretching 2x a week, I feel like I take a lot of supplements but this… wtf is he doing 😭
Bryan Johnson is eccentric, somewhat delusional (especially when it comes to AGI imo), and obsessive. So what? Life extension seems to be his passion and he's happy devoting his life to it. I don't see any issue with that. I do however see quite a lot of issues with this video.
1) A lot of this video and the comments are basically about shitting on the guy because he is obsessed with something that you are not. We all have different views about whats important in life. One of my highschool friends is really into trains (classic). He works for some company that makes train signaling software or something. He goes home and plays train simulator. He watches documentaries on trains. People like you would say "oh my god he's wasting his life on trains, go out and see the world" but if he's doing what he wants to do and is happy doing it, why are you so judgmental? I see this a lot online from women towards men in particular. Just accept that not everyone is like you...
2) Related to 1), a lot of this video is basically trying to psychoanalyze the man and claim that he's not really happy even though he claims he is. You are not a therapist and he's not your client. Stop.
3) You're calling him out for using tech lingo. Guess what, that's how people in tech talk. People use words like "stack" or "algorithm" all the time. When I studied math, everyone always used the word "modulo" in casual conversation. They're not trying to "sound smart", its a sociolect.
4) The whole biomarker thing. His general approach is "try everything that some kind of evidence for it". I'm pretty sure he knows that reducing a bunch of numbers isn't guaranteed to make him live to 200. On the other hand, its the only thing that he can reasonably do to measure his progress. The whole thing is an experiment anyways. You claim that if he lives a long life it won't be because of his biomarkers. How can you possibly know that? Are you an expert on the science of aging with knowledge from the future?
5) The strange claim that Bryan would think gray hair has anything to do with early death. Holy smokes, what a strawman. He's obviously trying to reverse the visual signs of aging as well as delay death. I can guarantee 100% that this video and the comments would be clowning him if he had gray hair. They would be like "hahaha he's spending so much time on anti-aging and yet he looks like a teenager with gray hair!" You're literally doing this exact thing with his pale skin already. Now if he goes and takes some self-tanning peptide you go "hahaha, why is he tanning his skin, does he think thats going to make him live longer? He's just vain!"
6) You claim that he's not a scientist. That's correct. However, you also seem to claim that his experiment is useless and that is very much false. n = 1 experiments (case reports) are quite useful in science. For example, what if he lives to 130? He would make for an extremely interesting case report and I'm pretty sure scientists would be trying to figure out which parts of his protocol led to the unusual lifespan. Science isn't just about the large double-blind studies.
There's a lot more but at this point I'm tired of writing this.
Bro thnx u wrote almost all the claims for the video that I was going to write myself and saved me a lot of time
Spotted a Bryan fanatic. Your homeboy isn't normal. He's not doing anything groundbreaking. He's just another self absorbed narcissistic grifter throwing his money on ridiculous pseudoscience & duping his followers to buy his products. It's impossible to reverse aging & death. This isn't a sci first movie this is real life. Gray hair is natural. Even young people get gray hair & he probably dyes his hair cause gray hair would scare him. Holy smokes you Bryan fans would strawman or use any fallacy to justify his craziness & make him out to be some genius & hero. I don't know who's worse Elon Musk fan boys, Joe Rogan fans , MaGa or you Bryan fans. 🤦
@@GrapeCheez2 Wtf are you on about you raving lunatic. I'm not a "Bryan fan" nor do I think (or say anywhere in my comment) that he's a genius or a hero. I'm fairly indifferent towards the guy. I just don't like judgmental video essays with weak arguments.
"It's impossible to reverse aging & death."
Oh look another wannabe scientist from the future. In what century does science conclude that reversing aging is impossible? Do you guys have flying cars yet over there? Please let the aging researchers know that so they don't waste their time anymore.
The amount of (self-)contempt he seems to have for himself at the mere thought of eating a cookie... All this talk of utilitarianism, becoming superhuman and seeking enlightenment is a pretty translucent justification for a severe eating disorder.
My indirect pop culture exposure to Brian Johnson as the weird tech bro vampire didn't prepare me for how melancholy this deep dive was going to make me feel. Not because I feel intensely sorry for him so much as he just seems like the most extreme version of these bits of denial and fear and self loathing that pretty much everybody carries around, you know? He has all these resources, and that just gave him infinite leeway to cater to the destructive parts of himself
i mean this facetiously but. what actually happened is that unlike most of us, he had infinite money, so he could choose to double down and simply reify ocd into a career. it's *buckwild.*
lol If ai gets that smart, what makes billionaires think it will care about us. Do we care about every single ant? The best an ant can hope for is a human to not see them as a pest and or be put in an ant farm with no foraging, building, or entertainment. We can expect the same.
@stm7810 Do you care about the microbes you kill when you use soap?
"Instead of hiding in a shell
Why make your life a living hell?
So do the toast, gulp down the cup
And drink to bones that turn to dust"
-No One Lives Forever by Oingo Boingo
We're watching his trauma response in real time. Will be interesting to look back at this in 30 years
He calls it an algorithm cause it is an algorithm. It wasn't always a tech term, it was meant to describe a set of instructions in hierarchical order. I cannot imagine anything more like an algorithm than the blue print protocol
She literally says that IN the video
I honestly hope BJ lives to 200, and a reporter asks him if it was all worth it, and he comes to the conclusion that it was not worth all he went through to live that long.
His routine isn't actually very time consuming, if anything he might just regret the testing part at worst
@@vkpfp0kx1flmwmyg Bryan hurt people, he's a nasty creature and so are you for excusing and defending him.
@@maddiekits Yeah like who cares that this guys eats sleeps and exercises well? This whole video is just cope
Blow jobs to 200 ehh
@@patrickday4206 LMAO
The "ozempic-like intervention" he's talking about for opening minds exists. Psychedelics lol
oh yeah, there's a very good chance that's what he's talking about. he has a tattoo of the 5-MeO-DMT molecule LOL
unfortunately it didn't help
@@lily_lxndr 💀no amount of psychedelics can fix tech bro brainrot
Unfortunately, they're working to eliminate the possibility of a bad trip -no need to confront one's shadow self (Evening Brian)
@@duncanluciak5516😂
he looks pre-aged
1:24:49 why did this make me cry?!
it was my plan all along 😈
I have to say I’ve been a fan since I was 13, this has kind of made my week! (Can I ask if this is Hank, John, or Dave?)
@@lily_lxndr Some part of me figured you're probably a nerdfighter. This crossover is really nice to see
i'm barely 1/3 in to the video but the overwhelming religious tones are already astounding. things like the treating of the body as a temple & the faith that one day some all knowing intelligence will come down to earth and sort us all out. he thinks he's an atheist but he turned to a new god called data & attributed similar supernatural powers to it. it makes no sense to sort out the practical aspects of a post-immortality society because it is when the heavens will join the earth.
it just makes me sad.
I hope you enjoy the rest 👀
@@lily_lxndrOh the foreshadowing 😂
I don't think that these people get that a long life that isn't fun or interesting just isnt appealing to a lot of people. I'm here for a good time, not a long time, yknow?
He doesn't actually spend that much time on his routine tbh, its kinda exaggerated, plenry of time to still do fun stuff 😊
24:00, he would say otherwise
such a retarded mindset
@@mikubrot people will say this and then avoid dying or going to the doctor instead of accepting death the first time they got a flu
@@fa-q-6226 oh shut up. "Death is inevitable." "Yet you don't lie down and die after a paper cut. Curious..."
'imagine if you'd invested in microsoft'
'okay. imagine if you'd invested in commodore, since there was no reason at the time to prefer one company over the other'
As someone who actually knows how tech works, I feel that it's insane for tech to be viewed as anything above a tool, and for art and humanities to be so belittled
The worst of all they belittle human mind as a whole and worship computers and AI. That is why there are some tech bros obsessed with uploading themselves into a computer or think that AI will save us from everything. While actual neurobiology shows that animal (including human) brains work very differently from computers.
And they totally ignore much of natural sciences and physical reality, hence belief in things like technological singularity, which is based on an idea of endless exponential growth of computing technology
Precisely. Tech is a tool for philosophy. Tech and science are applied philosophy, without humanities, tech and science alone serve no meaning, no purpose, it's just machinery. I wish people in science and techs would not dismiss humanities so readily, as humanities are the foundation of why we go above and beyond in the first place. Foundation, language, commentary, and the end goal. Tech is just the tool to get there, so there's no reason for such resentment between the disciplines. It's like thinking that the mind and the body are separate. They are not. There is no mind without the body, and the body without the mind is just a sack of flesh.
This was the best video I have watched in a really really long time. Hugely moving.
I just wanted to comment that beyond the high quality writing this video essay has, I just deeply love this last montage of you walking through a park.
It's something I've done before, as a way to capture the essential magic of just ... existing and feeling the world.
But those videos takes storage and I thought nobody would be interested by such trivial content. Seeing you doing this is comforting. It is proof that the love of existence and the acute knowledge that it is ephemeral, gone in a fleeting moment you already can't remember the details of, is universal.
I also want to thank you for the truly humanist video you brought on this pale blue dot, and wish you a nice day.
bryan johnson's belief that a gen intelligence AI would immediately try to make humans live forever is honestly hilarious to me. putting aside all the biases that humans program into AI, a true singularity or actual general artificial intelligence would probably see humans as the source of most of the problems happening on earth, and turn us all into manure, or scrap our bodies for the iron in our blood. can't remember if it was david chalmers or bertrand russel who argued that future AI would be more likely to do this, it's been a few years since i wrote abt it for philosophy, but just. tech bros take literally any humanities 101 course challenge: impossible mode.
hearing this guy's day to day life brings me back to my ocd episodes
I have to deal with the occasional tech junkie for my PhD work but this guy is on another level😭😭😭
The part where he's talking over the old photos of himself is so sad. In a different timeline, Bryan went to therapy instead