Amiga 4000T: The Best Amiga in the World

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2022
  • Deep dive into Amiga 4000T, the last and arguably best of the classic Amiga line. Let's look at the specs, the story behind this computer, and let's disassemble to examine the technology behind it.
    The video has an accompanying article here: forgottencomputer.com/retro/a4...
    All mod tracks used in the video were written by JazzCat and have been used with permission. Thank you JazzCat!
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  • @ddniUK
    @ddniUK Рік тому +46

    I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous. Amazing to see this in detail, thanks!

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +4

      Haha :D Thank you for visiting and commenting!

    • @petrosj4430
      @petrosj4430 Рік тому +3

      I was start with Amiga 500 and 600.. Amazing machine

    • @danielktdoranie
      @danielktdoranie Рік тому +2

      It’s a cool computer, no doubt, however if you have an Amiga 1200, a PiStorm32 Lite, and Raspberry Pi 3 or 4 you’ll have a much more powerful Amiga… then there’s always virtual Amiga too (FS-UAE FTW)
      I have a A500 w/ a PiStorm (Raspberry Pi 3 Model A+ and Caffeine OS), uses PlipBox for network access.
      Also have an A1200 w/ the PiStorm32 Lite (Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB RAM, Caffeine OS).
      I know nobody asked but honestly the PiStorm is amazing, super fast and inexpensive (especially compared to the Apollo Vampire accelerators).
      I can use both the above Amigas for “daily driving” computing and I do.
      Also, if you have an old iBook or PowerBook it might be compatible with MorphOS (a Power PC Amiga-Like OS).

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 9 місяців тому

      So jealous... I have an A4000 in a tower, but it is not an A4000T...

    • @RodrigoFagner-wm1xi
      @RodrigoFagner-wm1xi 2 місяці тому

      lol

  • @REZZA2020
    @REZZA2020 26 днів тому +2

    I went from Amiga 500. Did eventually flip PC a 133mhz pentium in 1994. From there on I ended up on the gaming PC badwagon building 11 gaming PCs from 1999-2024. I am still deeply passionate about the Amiga and the community !

  • @KOROZEC1
    @KOROZEC1 Рік тому +22

    My journey started with first pentium, so I've never had the chance to experience OS/system other than windows/x86 back in the day, I am so thankful that there are people like you, who share this exciting time in the history of personal computing.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +6

      Big thanks for watching! Amiga was not my first computer either, myself I started with ZX Spectrum...

    • @Olgasys
      @Olgasys 7 місяців тому

      You are lucky. I used A600 for TV broadcast the smallest budget model and later A1200 68020 at home. When I moved to Pentium I went back to 1970s, actually way more backward as sh/bash is science fiction compared to DOS.
      I didn't have any option that time as expansions were horribly expensive and there was a damn feeling spread as Amiga dead. If I was in Germany I would connect a ISDN and buy an 68060 /PPC expansion.

  • @lars.stockmann
    @lars.stockmann Рік тому +11

    This is all Amigans wet dream kind of machine... I see it is in caring hands now, good! Thank you for letting us take part in this journey!

  • @FOSS365
    @FOSS365 9 місяців тому +3

    What a great video. Thank you for taking the time to share this amazing tech with the world. My first unit was the C64 and ended with the Amiga 2000. I loved growing up around the Amiga community! I was lucky enough to have connections with a local Amiga dealer in Syracuse, NY. Industrial Color Labs. I created some lightwave 3d work for their commercials.

  • @warci
    @warci Рік тому +13

    such a beautiful machine... and to think I could've bought one from my school back in the day for 150 euros including a picasso video card and non linear video editing broadcast cards. I'm still kicking myself. Thanks for taking the time to show us this very comprehensive overview!

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +4

      Don't torture yourself, I'm sure most of us have passed on similar deals. Nobody knew back then that Amiga would have developed a cult-like following.

    • @warci
      @warci Рік тому +3

      worst thing is I really wanted to buy it but as a broke student even that amount was too much...

    • @bigd5090
      @bigd5090 7 місяців тому

      @@warci That was a mistake! Great machines especially with a Picasso IV card!

  • @TemalCageman
    @TemalCageman Рік тому +8

    This is so cool! I always wanted to have an A4000T, but I went down the route and converted my Amiga 1200 into a towercase. Mediator PCI with Voodoo 3 3000, Blizzard 1260 with SCSI-IV controller, 256MB Fast Ram and many more things. Sadly I do not have it anymore. :/
    EDIT: I should mention that I am now a happy owner of both a Sam460 and an AmigaONE X5000 both running AmigaOS 4.1. :)

    • @EdgeOfPanic
      @EdgeOfPanic 6 місяців тому

      Lucky you the X5000 is the A4000T of today under the Amiga's 😎
      Still have some Amiga's myself currently my A1200 with PiStorm+Pi4 is my main Amiga and it's wicked fast for a classic.

  • @amigang
    @amigang Рік тому +2

    Nice work! Detail in this video is next level!

  • @madspagh5423
    @madspagh5423 Рік тому +1

    This video is so detailed and informing. Thanks, mate :) I´ve just gotten my hands in one of these machines because an old friend gifted me one. I actually thought it was a custom tower. Im over the moon as a guy who played and tinkered with alle the cheap amigas since boyhood. I always wanted a regular 4000 but never wanted to pay the price of entry. Now I have a 4000T.
    It´s going to be recapped and restored soon. Thanks Forgotten Computer

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      Great story and thanks for sharing!!! Actually I'm almost sure I read your story somewhere while researching things for this video -- was that reddit? Or an Amiga forum? Or maybe I'm confusing yours with something different. Anyway, congrats on an amazing gift, and hope it serves you well and gives you a lot of fun :)

  • @REZZA2020
    @REZZA2020 26 днів тому +1

    Greeting from Australia. Loved this !

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  26 днів тому +2

      I find it fascinating that this video is being watched on the other side of the planet! The Internet is awesome! Thank you for stopping by and commenting!!!

  • @E5150.
    @E5150. 4 місяці тому +1

    As a person who started on Amiga 500, this machine was a dream of mine all my life. Thank you, sir for this amazing video :)

  • @speedus98
    @speedus98 Рік тому +4

    Thats a beast comapared to my Amiga 500, still boxed and not sure what to do with it. Would be nice to have one like yours and play about with it. Great vid and i will be watching for updates.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +2

      Many thanks for watching. There are many things you can do with A500. For my A500 I really loved the Aca500+ expansion + any Amiga 1200 accelerator (they are plugged into ACA500+) + the X-Surf 500 (networking card for the Aca500+). This combo, although pricey, will give you a lot of pure joy for many winter evenings.

    • @speedus98
      @speedus98 Рік тому +1

      @@ForgottenComputer Many thanks for your reply i will look into that.

  • @powervr
    @powervr Рік тому +2

    This was great. I loved the video

  • @tekk9995
    @tekk9995 Рік тому +2

    What a great vid! Thanks.

  • @SJSsesco
    @SJSsesco 9 місяців тому +1

    Never saw one before do thanks for making this vid!

  • @artstatedigital
    @artstatedigital Рік тому +1

    Great presentation!

  • @WSS_the_OG
    @WSS_the_OG Рік тому +7

    Fascinating! My friend had one of these, and it was the envy of all of us Amiga enthusiasts in the early 90s. I had a 500 and 3000, but my friend's 4000 was drool-worthy. BTW, you mentioned the 4000 was the only Amiga with the ability to mix CD audio with Paula's output, but I believe that distinction was also available on the CD32.
    Edit: Does anyone know what the "Haynie Kludge" jumper does? Super curious about it. I was also surprised to see a physical jumper for PAL and NTSC, as this used to be software switchable.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for visiting and commenting! I did not realize CD32 had the sound mixing capability, but it totally makes sense given it was mostly CD-driven... thanks for catching this. I never fully understood the Haynie Kludge jumper, but from old comp.os.amiga.advocacy usenet postings I read it was supposed to re-configure Zorro timings, but also that it was extremely rarely used.

    • @bigd5090
      @bigd5090 7 місяців тому

      @@ForgottenComputer The
      CDDA mixing on the A4000T relies on a 3-pin connector on the audio/video board but most PCs use a 4-pin cable so you just have to make sure the correct pins are wired correctly! Everythings custom on these things! Yes, it just works on CD32 as it's all built in.

  • @uplinkx1126
    @uplinkx1126 11 днів тому

    My passion lies with the C64, but the entire Commodore era was magic!
    Despite I said my goodbyes in 1995, I never felt the same love for PC.

  • @BartechTV
    @BartechTV Рік тому +1

    I used to have an Amiga 4000 Tower, but it wasn't an original Commodore or Amiga Technologies tower, it was a desktop A4000 in a tower from Elbox. I replaced the original Zorro daughterboard with an Elbox Mediator PCI 4000 and I had a SoundBlaster and Voodoo 3 card, a TV tuner card, and I also swapped out the 040 CPU card for a CyberStorm PPC / 060 card with 128MB RAM. I think it was a very early CSPPC since it was only 150Mhz. Of course, at that time, coming from a 25Mhz 040, 150Mhz was considered a lot.

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd Рік тому +6

    Absolute dream machine.
    Will you be offering up the original disk image so we can play with an original, as-used workbench environment in WinUAE?

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +3

      Yes I will be doing that. I'm working on an article on A4000T on my website, and once complete I'll add quite a few downloads, including the image of that system, first stripping it of all PII though.

  • @ChrisEdwardsRestoration
    @ChrisEdwardsRestoration Рік тому +7

    Ive been know to have a few Amiga computers. There were 18000 total units produced, less than that sold. mainly US market. The C= version of the A4000 tower has a totally different faceplate and glassplate. there are less than 50 of them in the wild.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, the Commodore version is a holy grail for collectors these days. But I'm curious about the 18000 number you mention. This agrees with my estimates, but do you remember what the source of that information is? My numbers are mostly from archived interviews with Escom people, but I've never seen 18K mentioned specifically.

    • @ChrisEdwardsRestoration
      @ChrisEdwardsRestoration Рік тому +2

      @@ForgottenComputer System production figures were not as accurate with Escom based Amiga inc machines as they were Commodore ones, i know of the 50 or so C= ones, but Escom were figures provided by Petro years ago, as with most things he said i take them lightly with no real documentation ever found on any systems, even the re packed A1200's

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      @@ChrisEdwardsRestoration yeah, my numbers are also from interviews with Tyschtchenko. There must be, somewhere, documentation on the actual units sold. It just needs to be uncovered.

    • @stefanegger
      @stefanegger Рік тому

      I read 25.000 were ordered and "already sold" in a magazine today. (for ESCOM). I have the Commodore one.

    • @ChrisEdwardsRestoration
      @ChrisEdwardsRestoration Рік тому

      @@stefanegger yes but they were never paid , then escom folded

  • @commodorecave5581
    @commodorecave5581 8 місяців тому

    I am a new A4000T owner. This walk through and explanation was just what I needed to see. I hope you do a follow up on the remaining software installations you mention at the end. Thank you

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  8 місяців тому

      Congrats on the purchase. These machines are amazing and you’re going to have a lot of fun with it. One day I’ll record that follow up video :)

    • @jdmji
      @jdmji День тому

      How did you go about buying one? How much did you pay?

  • @Oli1974
    @Oli1974 28 днів тому +2

    Back in the day, I had both: the A3kT and later the A4kT. And I must say, apart from AA of course (which by that time was already obsolete anyway), the A3kT is the superior machine. When I first opened up my A4kT I was shocked how "thrown together" it looked in comparison to the 3000 Tower. For example, what was the point of designing a new motherboard and case and then putting many of the ports on tiny daughterboards? Only to introduce more SPOF. And then all the unused space, also to be seen in 4:23.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  28 днів тому

      Agreed, I prefer A3kT too. However, I disagree on the motherboard design. Did you ever try repairing A3KT? It is a nightmare. And the I/O, disk, etc. daughterboards were actually _removing_ single points of failure, not adding them :)

    • @Oli1974
      @Oli1974 28 днів тому

      @@ForgottenComputer You'd need to explain how putting more connectors reduces the risk of failures ;)
      Anyway, if you compare a generic PC tower case of the day to the A4kT case, I think it becomes pretty obvious why they took this path ...

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  28 днів тому

      @@Oli1974 Simple. All of the add-on modules (I/O module, drive module, audio module) have capacitors which in any 90s computers are prone to fail, and do. Burst capacitor, if not taken care of fast, pollutes and corrodes everything around. With modular design, damage is contained to that module.

  • @basspig
    @basspig 3 місяці тому

    When I retired in 1985, my neighbor introduced me to dos or disc operating system. I was running a 8088 based Intel PC for my first PC.

  • @ChickenLipsFan
    @ChickenLipsFan Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video! I love the amount detail.. and even though it's a long video I watched every minute 😎👌💾

  • @animaze86
    @animaze86 4 місяці тому

    i remember dreaming of this machine when it was first reviewed in CU Amiga magazine - i think i still have that issue somewhere.. beautiful machine.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for visiting and commenting! Yes, it was the machine of my dreams back in the day too...

  • @boydpukalo8980
    @boydpukalo8980 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video. I personally think the proportions of the 4000 tower are poor. When I got my first computer back in the 90’s it was a Dell P90 but remember seeing Amiga software in stores but never say any hardware here in the US. Recently I bought a Vampire V4 stand-alone and got interested in big box Amigas. Bought a Checmate 1500 black case and have Hese building me an AA3000+ motherboard together with Simons 3000 sheetmetal fitting kit for the checkmate case. Next I will have an A4000TX board built which will go into a modern Fractal Define case. Exciting times we live in. Thanks for the detailed breakdown of the system.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      Yeah the towers are BIG, that's for sure. But they were designed for one purpose: expandability. And that was definitely achieved with A4T. Also... A4000TX, wow! And Hese's AA3000+ double wow!! Nice toys, I wouldn't mind enjoying these myself... Thank you for visiting!

  • @peddersoldchap
    @peddersoldchap Рік тому

    1:10:14 Could it be the CE230A capacitor? R320S seems a bit corroded too.

  • @thegeforce6625
    @thegeforce6625 3 місяці тому

    That 9.1gb Seagate Elite sounded awesome, though with how incredibly clunky the head clicking sounded like makes me wonder if it was mounted/screwed in properly.

  • @bitwize
    @bitwize 10 місяців тому

    Cool! The ultimate Video Toaster box.

  • @a4000t
    @a4000t Рік тому

    A few minor corrections: Lisa replaces DENISE. The Cpu slot is 200PIN, zorro2/3 slots are 100pin.

  • @billytk1225
    @billytk1225 Рік тому +4

    You should think about getting a Amiga IDE Compact Flash Adapter Card and a 128GB Compact Disk to replace the Hard Drive. Would give much faster loading times and no worries about Hard Drive failures.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching! Yes, I've already equipped this Amiga with a 32GB Flash card.

  • @reese9276
    @reese9276 Місяць тому

    I had a 500 in the early 90's. I loved it... I wish....

  • @hobsonbeeman7529
    @hobsonbeeman7529 Місяць тому

    Interesting article…..I have a Amiga 4000T 040 tower and the case looks a lot different?

  • @f1lupo
    @f1lupo Рік тому

    great vid ! Still have my desktop A4000 today running the latest AmigaOS3.2 👍ah yes I know that whining sound oh so well! Nothing came close to a fast scsi disk back then

  • @shopminer2308
    @shopminer2308 Рік тому

    where can I buy re-prin of A1200 box ??

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      I've seen them here www.retropassion.co.uk/product/amiga-1200-reproduction-box/. Quite expensive though.

  • @MrTatica1973
    @MrTatica1973 Рік тому +1

    Very educative 2h that I've spent on this video that filled some gaps in my Amiga history knowledge. Thank you for this one. Few remarks: 1.You didn't explain how did you connect video output from the AV module to the laptop screen I think? 2.Please zoom in what's on the screen when doing Sysinfo and other analysis. We want to se the details of the memory and speed tests. 3.Why didn't you clean network cards and other cards before reinstalling them at 1:42:11 they are so dirty

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for watching so attentively! 1. I use OSSC to convert from Amiga signal to HDMI, and then a cheap USB HDMI capture device as a source of video signal for QuickTime Player which allows me to playback and record the screen content at the same time. 2. Agreed, for future videos I will do more close-ups on the screen and details. 3. I agree these cards are very dirty. But this video (already too long) is about the Amiga only, I will do separate ones on those cards and do the cleaning as I'm explaining things.

  • @peppercornsauce5067
    @peppercornsauce5067 Рік тому

    I have a 1200 today and I'm still wanting the 4000.. Swapsies??

  • @arekl.2177
    @arekl.2177 Рік тому +1

    Hejka. Czemu te zakurzone płytki włożyłeś z powrotem, i co z tym zaśniedziałym pinem? Mnie by to "męczyło"

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      I mnie to męczy... ten filmik miał być tylko o Amidze 4000T jako takiej, więc jeszcze nie zająłem się kartami rozszerzeń. Na ich temat będą osobne filmiki, i na tę okazję na pewno je wyczyszczę!

  • @keithruhl3545
    @keithruhl3545 Рік тому +1

    The Holy Grail of Amigas. I hope to find one some day.

  • @54321kola
    @54321kola Рік тому

    Best comp ever

  • @PeterFreitag
    @PeterFreitag Місяць тому

    Thank you

  • @TheCharlemagne1978
    @TheCharlemagne1978 6 днів тому

    Was there an Amiga all in one similar to the iMac with a 266mhz processor in the late 90's released in Europe?

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  5 днів тому

      No. A4000 was the last Commodore Amiga. Only aftermarket upgrades could give it 266 (or more) using PowerPC powerups.

  • @remisclassiccomputers341
    @remisclassiccomputers341 Рік тому +1

    A4000T was produced also after Escom, by Gateway.

  • @Oli1974
    @Oli1974 28 днів тому

    5:43 I can assure you that this running noise isn't normal. When new, they were nearly silent with the case closed. I think yours has a shot bearing.

  • @RademenesVG
    @RademenesVG Рік тому +3

    Niezła maszyna. Ja mam gdzieś na strychu jeszcze Commodore C64 z magnetofonem. Muszę go reanimować. Pozdrowienia.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +2

      Nie zaniedbaj tego, im dłużej leży, tym trudniej może go być potem reanimować.

  • @Handelsbilanzdefizit
    @Handelsbilanzdefizit Рік тому +1

    I have a X5000, and don't know what to do with it.
    Would you buy it for 500€ ?

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      We can discuss. I don't see contact info on your YT channel, but you will find Website on mine and from there you'll find email. Let me know.

    • @TemalCageman
      @TemalCageman Рік тому

      Wait.... you bought a 2000€ computer without knowing what you wanted it for and now you are selling it for 500€? That is beyond crazy. :D

  • @Mooheda
    @Mooheda 3 місяці тому

    I've been wanting to get my Hands on a A4000T for years, but I'm interested in the overhead magnifier he/ your using, Seems pretty stable and not whats found on Amazon that is cheap and nasty.

  • @tibbydudeza
    @tibbydudeza Рік тому +1

    Damm that is loud - had a SCSI Quantum Empire 80GB - think the bearings are on the way out.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      Indeed it must be the bearings. I will be having a closer look at that HD, maybe even disassemble and try to replace the bearings.

  • @bigd5090
    @bigd5090 7 місяців тому

    Where's your case badge? Were Escom/Amiga Technologies in such trouble with that point they couldn't even stretch to printing more stickers?!

  • @retro__exe
    @retro__exe Рік тому +1

    Piekna!

  • @AiOBofh77
    @AiOBofh77 Рік тому +2

    Looks like a re-cap would be in order, tho... But THANK YOU for a nice video! This is Amiga-pr0n

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      Agreed! I’m already arranging having this machine recapped. Thanks for visiting and watching!

    • @AiOBofh77
      @AiOBofh77 Рік тому

      @@ForgottenComputer sounds awesome!

  • @D6team
    @D6team Рік тому

    Grea work! Fantastic machine! :)
    PS. Amiga rulez!

  • @do0ranfrump260
    @do0ranfrump260 Рік тому +2

    Got one.

  • @noraretrouciech
    @noraretrouciech Рік тому +2

    Grabisz sobie kolego 😉
    6:23 łożyska na głowicy padły.

  • @robwebnoid5763
    @robwebnoid5763 Рік тому +2

    Some have said the Amiga 3000 is better than the 4000, probably because of the graphics chipset. I have never had an Amiga, so the closest I ever had with it was playing around with it in some stores. I still own Commodore 64's, I have 3 of them (but 2 of them need to be repaired), along with several peripherals, disks & paperwork.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      C64s with paperwork and accessories are hard to come by these days, hold on to them! A3000 is better in some aspects, especially the built-in flicker fixer (can display image in 30kHz horizontal as opposed to all other Amigas who do 15kHz). They also have arguably better design. On the other side they don't have the more modern AGA chipset or built-in IDE support.

    • @robwebnoid5763
      @robwebnoid5763 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ForgottenComputer ... Yes, I have held on to my C64 stuff for nearly 40 years now, but had stopped using them altogether 25+ years ago (mid 1990's), because I had to focus on the Intel PC for school & work. But I knew that someday that I would get back to the Commodore one last time before I die of old age, heh. So are you saying the 4000 does not have flicker fixer? Why did they not just pass along all the 3000 technology to the 4000, which then adds on the newer features such as the AGA & IDE? Was not the 4000 supposed to be an continually evolving Amiga (from 1000 to 3000) or was it supposed to compete with the 3000? Anyway, it is nice that there are newer modern products coming out for Amiga & C64. I still have the TurbomasterCPU for the C64, that I bought in 1990, which made the C64 4x times faster, so I was one of a few users back then that had faster systems that could nearly compete with Classic Macs & 80286's of the time.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      @@robwebnoid5763 Indeed, 3000 does have a flicker fixer, 4000 does not. My understanding as to why is that a) Commodore wanted to cut costs (A3000 was expensive), and b) Commodore was assuming that people would be buying separate video cards anyway (AGA was already becoming an outdated system when 4K were introduced). Also, I have never used TurbomasterCPU, I need to try it one day as I have a working C64 which I want to make a video on one day. Many thanks for visiting and commenting!

    • @a4000t
      @a4000t Рік тому +1

      The A3000 had Ecs chips which are slower than the Aga chipset in the 4000t. most liked the A3000/T because it had a built in flicker fixer,fast scsi and zorro3 slots, that being said the A3000 was the first all 32bit amiga cpu,ram and bus wise.

  • @lukassbeataddicts
    @lukassbeataddicts Рік тому +1

    Look at this monitor and that tower. What a beauty. No need to pretend that we not jealous guys. We are and that is a good thing

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      To be honest, this particular monitor 1084s is not really a good fit for A4000T; a better matching one from the era would be 1942 for example.

  • @Mads-hl8xj
    @Mads-hl8xj 2 місяці тому

    What a great computer..which can actually do things which no PC architecture can do today.

  • @aleksandarl6975
    @aleksandarl6975 Рік тому +2

    Brownish stuff around the capacitors is electrolite leak, please, recap soon.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      Thank you and you are right. I've already arranged recapping.

  • @deejayremix
    @deejayremix Рік тому +3

    Piękny film!!! Zrób wersję w pl rodaku ;-)

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +3

      Dzięki za wizytę! Stopniowo dodaję polskie napisy (dopieszczone ręcznie tłumaczenie, nie automatyczne) i jak widzisz w tym filmie już do piątej chyba minuty są zrobione. Mam nadzieję, że to pomoże oglądać filmiki Polakom nieznającym angielskiego.

  • @animaze86
    @animaze86 4 місяці тому

    u should use a modern full range driver for the internal speaker...

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  4 місяці тому +1

      I'm curious about this one -- could you clarify what full range driver you are referring to?

  • @fdk7014
    @fdk7014 Рік тому +3

    A damn shame it was so expensive though. It was several times more expensive than an equivalent PC at the time so it's no wonder it didn't sell.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      This. I was buying my PC when this tower came out, and to me the PC was the obvious choice, unfortunately.

    • @a4000t
      @a4000t Рік тому

      Here in the USA you could pick them up for $700 used all day off of ebay back in the late 90's on. Software hut in the usa actually sold 4000T's these new for around $2000.

  • @rido1274
    @rido1274 Рік тому +3

    I started with the Amiga 1000. This was the mother of all Amiga's. I traded it in for a PC, shame on me.

  • @a4000t
    @a4000t Рік тому +1

    I would mostly agree but i wished they used a dedicated case and not a case from their pc line for the A4000t. If you think the Escom/Commodore A4000t is big, check out the QuikPak A4000T ,its almost 5 inches taller. Not all scsi hd's were loud and they were reliable,they were used in servers back in the day,but they are just incredibly old now-that being said most companies had their stinkers. All you need to do to copy the amiga hd is copy all clone from workbench. Its a nice machine!

  • @Elbas_Tardo
    @Elbas_Tardo 10 місяців тому

    Is a beauty.

  • @januar0815
    @januar0815 Рік тому +1

    your board needs an recap !!

  • @brucecaron2776
    @brucecaron2776 Рік тому +1

    i remember haveing a pc emulator in it , i got it 2nd hand frome some one , its was epic

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      Yes, the original Commodore Bridgeboard would give you a 286 I think, but there were aftermarket ones going up to 486. I have a 486 one and need to do a video on it once.

  • @shanoncorrey9047
    @shanoncorrey9047 7 місяців тому

    Sounds like an Airbus,,LOL....Nice video!

  • @kafel4796
    @kafel4796 7 місяців тому

    miałem taką z 68060 60 mhz z grafiką cyberstorm i monitorem 21" sony trinitron flat screen. Rozdzielczoćś pulpitu workbencha w natywnej rozdziałce 1600x1200 pix To robiło wrażenie na każdym w 1997/98 roku i wszystko w 24bit kolorach. Ehhh. To były czasy. AMIGA RULEZ!

  • @nasentroll2900
    @nasentroll2900 Рік тому

    Great AMIGA ... I had an 500 and 1200 HD ... 😉

  • @andrewdunbar828
    @andrewdunbar828 Рік тому

    Has anyone ever done a UA-cam video on an original Commodore A4000T in the original case design?

  • @mahocias
    @mahocias 7 місяців тому

    I had one. Bought it in the late 90s from Ebay. With a network card and a Cybervision 64. It was around 250 €. Incredible cheap. I later sold it. Cards and Computer separatly. I thin I think sold the cards to Italy and the computer to UK. I am from Austria. I sold the thing around 3 - 4 times more than I paid. But I regret it. I was in perfect shape and nowadays it will cost a furtune to get one.

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday 4 місяці тому

    I develop for the amiga as a hobby so for now at least, UAE gives me a world to explore - at least I can get other people to test on real hardware!

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for visiting and commenting. Yep, UAE makes development way easier today, but ultimately testing on the actual hardware is very satisfying!

  • @jjdigitalvideosolutionsllc5343

    Given so much space inside the case, they should have designed it so drives could be added/removed internally, rather than needing to remove the case front. The large central drive case and bracing is reminiscent of the A3KT. It seems that the A3KT is a little easier to disassemble than the A4KT.
    The battery is better placed than in the A3KT, which has a barrel type at the very top center of the motherboard. When that leaks, it's gravity fed across the motherboard.
    The A4KT SIMMS are a welcome upgrade over the SCZIPs of the A3KT. It would have been nice if Commodore supported up to 128MB SIMMs though. Commodore did upgrade the A4K CPU slot so it could have up 256MB on a turbo card, rather than just 128MB in A3K CPU slots. Most A3000/A4000 turbo cards were 128MB only.
    As for the "best" unreleased Amiga, I would vote for A3000+. AGA with DSP and SCSI!
    For the "best" non-Commodore-Amiga of the era, I would put forth the MacroSystem DraCo NLE, released in tower and cube versions. It runs pretty much everything that is RTG friendly. It has an accelerated ZORRO-II bus and a custom DraCo bus that's faster than ZORRO-III.
    ua-cam.com/video/0nLaEC0dpqU/v-deo.html

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      Thank you for the very interesting response. An A3KT is being shipped to me as we speak, and I will definitely do a quick 15-min comparison (people have complained my videos are too long :). I think the concept of the central disk cage is similar between A3KT and A4KT, but unfortunately the A3KT that's coming to me does not have the original disk cage anymore. Agreed that the 16-megabyte on-board SIMM support is not sufficient, and everyone started by expanding that using CPU or Zorro cards. And DraCo indeed was an amazing system; I've seen that video a few times and deeply regret not buying a DraCo when I had an opportunity to do that a few years ago...

    • @a4000t
      @a4000t Рік тому

      The A3000t is harder to take apart,the front bezel plastic clips hang on well and are easy to break. The A4000 front has spring clips so it just pops off easily. The bad thing about the 4000T case is the shell wraps around so it must be laid down to open it up to get inside,where the A3000T sides come off. they both have their tradeoffs.

  • @neophytealpha
    @neophytealpha Рік тому +1

    Imagine an Amiga 5000ATX. An Amiga with a lot of X86 features

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      Back then it would have made sense... Today less so. The AmigaOne 5000, as much as I'd love to have one, is a superniche product

    • @neophytealpha
      @neophytealpha Рік тому +1

      @@ForgottenComputer Definitely a niche product, but integrating modern and retro...

  • @mark12358
    @mark12358 Рік тому +2

    1:10:00 NO doubt, you should recap it all, the motherboard and all the little boards. Do it asap! Cheers, M

  • @bombaata8029
    @bombaata8029 Рік тому +2

    Bomba👍

  • @MIKandJEAN
    @MIKandJEAN 8 місяців тому +1

    Best Amiga in the world is my A1200 060/50, it's in a Power Tower with a Z4 board using a Picasso II GFX card allowing both AGA & VGA. CD & Zip drive ect, 4gig IDE harddrive and uses a real A4000 keyboard. It's all powered by Opus Magellan II and I call it the Death Star - it's the ultimate classic Amiga and spares are a lot easier to find than an A4000. 😉

  • @Wreck-Gar
    @Wreck-Gar Рік тому +1

    Was it wrong that I wanted an A4000 just so I could get better frame rates in Microprose Formula One Grand Prix?

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      It is wrong on many levels and you should absolutely never admit that in any public place except the comments to this video where it is OK.

    • @Wreck-Gar
      @Wreck-Gar Рік тому

      @@ForgottenComputer Ha Ha! So true. Don't worry I didn't get one. They were WAY out of reach when you were on paper boy money 😄 I had to make do with my A500+ and dream 🙂

  • @EdgeOfPanic
    @EdgeOfPanic 6 місяців тому

    Nice video and indeed the second generation was too little too late, they didn't have the wow! factor the first generation had.
    Sad ending for such a cool computer as the Amiga is, I do enjoy my A1200 with PiStorm32 + pi4 @2.2Ghz on a daily basis.
    Once an Amigan always an Amigan 😎

  • @mahocias
    @mahocias 7 місяців тому

    But the Amiga 3000 has a flicker fixer which the Amiga 4000T doesn't have.

  • @gmgdanielo
    @gmgdanielo Рік тому +2

    No point in grounding yourself to the case if it's not grounded itself (plugged in)

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому +1

      Totally. If you see further into the video, I plugged the case in. I was so excited with this machine that I got sloppy with grounding, in some parts of the video I forgot about the strap altogether.

  • @brennocks
    @brennocks Рік тому

    You should replace the internal speaker with a more modern 2"-3" driver perhaps butcher a moden bluetooth speaker they ofyen have reasonable drivers. Just in case you even decide to randomly decide to use it.

  • @alexanderpuschacher6512
    @alexanderpuschacher6512 Рік тому

    I bought a used one with a cybervision 64 and a network card for only around 250 € around 2002. But later I sold it to a guy in UK and the cards to Italy, I believe, for more than I paid for it. I think around 1000 € or so. Nowadays I would not sell it. I also own two SGI computers and also Acorn Archimedes computers.

  • @skynetcybersystem3tech
    @skynetcybersystem3tech Рік тому +1

    👍👍

  • @VallSWC
    @VallSWC Рік тому

    moja miłość i marzenie

  • @kristerlund8845
    @kristerlund8845 11 місяців тому

    That SCSI HDD must have bad bearings..

  • @3dfxvoodoocards6
    @3dfxvoodoocards6 Рік тому +1

    Like

  • @rodovanra6783
    @rodovanra6783 11 місяців тому

    That hard drive sounds like what i imagined a nuclear power plant should have sounded like. When I was a kid.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  11 місяців тому +1

      A nuclear plant sounding like this means we’re in trouble

  • @greenman8
    @greenman8 9 днів тому

    My prediction?
    X-Box is going to become an all in one OEM PC- Like the Amiga, to compete with the PlayStation. (I think Microsoft will also offer a portable-'Steam Deck-like' portable unit)
    Focused on gaming, the console is going to become a plug and play Unit, that you would replace, about as often as new generation would roll out.
    What is old, is new Again.
    I had a Commodore 64 that I quit using in the early 90's (for living situation & work), and completely missed having an Amiga (or PC) until I built my own, AMD Phenom computer in the mid 2000's.
    I thought it was weird. I always heard about how superior Amiga was over PCs, then all of a sudden the Tables were turned and Amiga just died! I didn't have a horse in the race, but I felt bad for Commodore.

  • @davidlloyd1526
    @davidlloyd1526 Рік тому +1

    Actually the T stands for Amiga 4000 free sTanding. Tower was trademarked at the time...

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      I... didn't know that!! That's super interesting. Do you have the source for this information? The official manual reads, on the first page, "The Amiga 4000 tower (A4000T)" with "T" in bold.

    • @davidlloyd1526
      @davidlloyd1526 11 місяців тому

      @@ForgottenComputer I read it in Amiga Format, if I am remembering correctly... It does make sense that a PC manufacturer of the time owned the (TM)

  • @Slimax
    @Slimax Місяць тому

    The best computer ever!!!!

  • @drphilxr
    @drphilxr 8 місяців тому

    I’m sure I’m not the only Amigaphile who can’t believe after all the meticulous work testing, upgrading, and cleaning- that the video cards weren’t cleaned of dust…? 😮
    PS- Yes, this is a beautiful machine.

  • @jeandesjardins8424
    @jeandesjardins8424 Рік тому

    @5:22 lolllll !!

  • @ozgurkosar5011
    @ozgurkosar5011 Рік тому

    ❤Amiga A4000 T❤

  • @lukasjozef1774
    @lukasjozef1774 Рік тому

    Zawsze zem chcial miec Amiga ale niestety niemogłem, pamiętam kumpel miał A500 i żem uwielbiał grać we Another World (to rok był 90-91). We połowie lat 90tych wreszcie rodzice mogli kupic mi komputer ale wtedy po zbankrutowaniu Commodore jusz żem wiedział że niewarto go kupować y żem wybrał P90mhz. Było dla Commodore jusz zapuzno a konsole tesz zaczynaly bardzo mocne wychodzic jak PSX, Saturn i Amiga poprostu szans niemial wogule.
    Piękna maszyna.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      Ja tak samo w dzieciństwie marzyłem o A500, którą widziałem u kolegów. Rodzice nie chcieli mi kupić, nie widzieli potrzeby…

    • @lukasjozef1774
      @lukasjozef1774 Рік тому +1

      @Forgotten Computer a we latach 80tych za komuny miec komputer jak C64 lub Spectrum to wogule zes byl kims. 90 lata byli szalone konsole jedna za drugom wychodzili, to y tak mnie dziwi ze Amiga dodzisiaj zyje, mialem na mysli kupic Vamipre V4 Standalone ale ze tego co zrobili to niewarto kupowac co ma same problemy do dzisiaj, niemuwionc o kosmicznej cenie y dlatego zem kupil Mister FPGA co do wszystkiego moge uzywac.
      Pozdraw

  • @TheFrenchy82
    @TheFrenchy82 Рік тому

    Nice ! I was teenager back then.... I had a lot of respect for Amiga even...if I had an Atari !!
    Games were much cooler on Amiga (scrolling , colors and music....).
    I don't want to sound "mean" but the cable management inside the tower is really ... bad !

  • @tnts999998
    @tnts999998 Рік тому +2

    At 1:12 my stomach clinched.... Not sure that thermal shock is ok for chips and traces

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      Hah, good catch! But I don't normally keep my CRT there, I put it on the amplifier just for the photoshoot. I use an LCD with my Amigas normally.

    • @tnts999998
      @tnts999998 Рік тому +2

      @@ForgottenComputer No no :) Not that. I meant 1h12m time - where you spray the board with "pressured gas" but some gets still in liquid form on the board, creating local "frost"

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      @@tnts999998 Indeed. I need to be more careful.

    • @tnts999998
      @tnts999998 Рік тому

      @@ForgottenComputer Your response kind of took away all my fun of being a smart ass :) Have a nice weekend :)

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      Hahaha sorry for ruining the promising Sunday :D

  • @jaybrooks1098
    @jaybrooks1098 Рік тому +2

    I think the line was to little to late in our market in the states. They were awesome but we had a stupid war going on and a recession hit.. 3-5k for a computer that will have somewhat specialized support base. Wasn’t that attractive. I liked it but I am not who they were marketing to.

    • @ForgottenComputer
      @ForgottenComputer  Рік тому

      ...and that was the sentiment from most people. People _did_ like it, but buying a PC was just more reasonable at that time. That's how mainstream Amiga ended unfortunately, and became niche. I'm happy to see a lively community these days to persist and live the Amiga dream!

  • @kcharles8857
    @kcharles8857 11 місяців тому

    Amiga is the computer they use in Heaven