Lots of vloggers have reviewed this bike, many comparing it to "old" BSA models of the Interceptor. I've just test ridden one and part exchanged my Ducati Icon for a new one. Why? Because it's what it is, a modern classic, not a copy but a new iteration. If you've ridden an air cooled bike in summer the engine heat is unpleasant. If you've toured across Europe on an air cooled bike, they don't like the heat. The 650 single is vibration free and responsive with a slick gearbox. The Goldstar is not up to Triumph quality, (I'm lucky enough to own both a Bobber and a Street Twin), but at the price £6299 off you shouldn't expect it to be. My BSA dealer is 22 miles away which provides local support should I need it. Go in with your eyes open and accept the new Goldstar for what it is, a modern classic. Having owned and ridden many bikes over 48 years from experience I can tell you that no bike is perfect. It's the feel good factor, "does it have soul" that will let you know if it's for you. Don't knock it until you've tried it.
That's an excellent comment! Thank you for sharing. I agree that if you are realistic about the BSA's offering you will be happy. It is not a T100 in quality or performance but then no one (sensible) is saying it should be. A T100 is £9,595.00...
Great overview. I’ve had my March 2023 Goldstar tucked up in the shed for several months as weather has been so bad. Finally got out for a ride yesterday. Started perfectly and after 30 mins, remembered why I love the bike so much. The engine is fab!
Good work, just subscribed. We took delivery of 2 reduced Goldies yesterday, your chanel has been very helpful, we are proud owners of 350 classics but want the ton up feel some times, love the big singles😊 cheers P&S
Thank you Peter really appreciate that. Many congratulations, I wish you all the best luck with your new bikes, I too came from an RE 350 and I feel the Goldie is a natural progression, same thump with a little more power... both RE and BSA are excellent IMO
Great review thanks. I've been following your owner experience and checking out the various forums, and for a new-to-market model the BSA has very few problems. The EML on start up is either user error in pressing the starter too soon, or due to the electronics being set for a warmer climate. A few have cracked their headlight lenses, and of course some are prone to occasional stalling, which is as bad as it seems to get. I've also considered the Guzzi V7, but lots have problems galore that owners cheerily write off as "character". And that bike's been around for decades! I've got a mate with a beautiful and very expensive Ducati that has spent so much time in the dealership trying to sort out the dodgy electronics, that he bought a old z1000 which he says is far more fun anyway! I reckon BSA has done a fantastic job with the Gold Star, and I'm pleased you're enjoying it so much. I've already got a zx12r that I've owned for nearly 20 years for faster, longer rides. But, I'm definitely looking at the BSA as a present for my upcoming 60th birthday because that single sounds fantastic on the throttle. Cheers.
Hi Jerry, thanks for the comment. I guess while I've been hyper focused on the Goldstar specifically I missed the fact that all brands seem to have problems... even BMW. The new Triumph 400s as an example seem to have the immobiliser stuck on and reports of people cranking the bike 10-11 times before it will start. I didn't know the V7 had any issues but then I don't go on groups for owners of that bike! Well good luck with what ever bike you do go for and Happy Birthday in advance! Life's too short sometimes... thanks, Sean
Sean, this is probably the best review I’ve seen of the BSA. As you said, a brief test ride doesn’t really give you enough experience to adequately judge a bike. As far as tires, experienced testers will often tell you OEM tires are not the same quality or performance as replacement tires of the same brand and model. I had Ceat tires as original equipment on my 650 Interceptor and despite all the internet complaints, I used them for 6000 miles and only replaced them when they were due. The only time the tires were questionable was when I rode on grooved pavement, or rode at higher speeds. If I were riding in those conditions regularly, I would have replaced the tires sooner. The new tires make the bike much more stable at high speeds. These modern classic bikes can’t be compared on a value basis with other modern bikes. They’re not great dynamically, they don’t have all the modern technology, and they use heavier materials to accomplish their design goals. My 19 year old BMW with a similar 650 engine weighs about 40 pounds less, has a couple more horsepower, has Brembo brakes, a single-sided swingarm, belt drive and handles way better than my Interceptor. Which draws more attention, and which do I ride more, the Interceptor. It’s not better in any measurable way, but I prefer it for cruising around. By the way, I like waffles, maybe more than hotcakes. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Alvin for the kind comment. This was an important video to get right. I hope it serves as a useful guide going forward for people. I followed the CEAT controversy in the RE community and i am one who would have just run the factory tyres until they were worn enough to replaced naturally. Chucking perfectly good tyres seems and awful waste to me. Im sure some will disagree. My bike being one of the first to enter the UK back in Feb 23 has old tyres, I've now started pixel peeping on other pictures riders have uploaded of their BSAs (provided they used a good phone/camera) today I saw one on a 23 plate so that's March to Sept 23 and it has 2022 manufactured tyres. Mine aas 2019. I think I've been unlucky and had a bike that was stored through covid then shipped. I'll be changing my tyres to some with an aggressive tread for some gravel trails and light adventures. They will probably inspire more confidence than the road based pirellis!! I also read once that OEM bike suspension is not even the same as the kits you buy as an aftermarket upgrade. Not all Ohlins kits are equal, amazing they would do that but there you are. Someone pointed out that the BSA is not good value as its not got feature A,B or C etc compared to another bike and yes that's true but in the modern retro space, these BSAs I think offer a good experience for the money. I personally love a £5-6k bike, it's enough so you get something nice you can cherish but not too much that you're always worried about paint chips and securely parking the thing. Definitely a balance to be had. The interceptor is another hop on and go bike which is love. Sport bikes for all their adrenaline, are such a faff. Zipping up the power ranger suit to go for a ride... gets boring. Anyway that was a suitable waffle 🧇. Enjoy your week and thanks again for the support and comment 👍 😀
Great review. My second bike was a BSA 650. about 65 years ago. Wonderful bike, it would show a rear tire to Nortons of the day. Second gear was incredible !
Excellent review - test rode one yesterday: city, bypass & country roads - WoW! impressed. Currently got a RE 350 classic (bought end of last year so will keep for this year). Looking to move up for next season! Thanks.
Great review Sean, love your no BS completely honest approach. l did test ride one last summer and l really liked it but eventually l got a 6 year old T120, carry on loving your BSA take care 👍
Thanks very much Mark. Yes ill never get invited to a brand product launch with how I talk about bikes 😂😂. I've made my peace with that and the show goes on 😀😁. I also looked at many a T120, I do really like them and they seem to hold their value well, id like a test ride but i triumph dont seem to run dealer demo days and id feel a bit dishonest going to an individual dealer and pretending to be a genuine buyer. I'd probably of had one of the ones with the chrome parts but I like how passionate 2 wheeled Willie is about his T120 black! He's got loads of spare parts i think he said he would give them away to a viewer who needed them and could collect... might be useful.
I think Royal Enfield kicked the baby out along with the bath water when they axed the Classic 500. Not only is the 500 a way better bike than the all new 'plastic' 350 on just about every level but they left the door open for BSA to fill the gap with this great machine. Nice review mate 🙂
Thanks Richard, again this is a really nice comment. It was quite a bit of writing notes, one day out on the bike and a second day doing the piece to camera (in a ferocious wind 😂), then day editing it all. The owners reviews are my best efforts on here and I want to keep that up, so I'm really glad to read this comment. Thank you again.
This is a thorough long term review. Thank You for making this video! While waiting for the BSA Goldstar to make it to our shores here in the USA I decided to purchase a 2023 Royal Enfield Classic 350 in Chrome-Bronze about a year ago (03/31/2023) which I absolutely love and cherish. So, the question for me is should I add the BSA Goldstar to my existing future stable after it arrives in the US or go for something different considering I already have a single cylinder "thumper" with my 2023 RE Classic 350 which i plan on keeping. For me the Classic 350 and the BSA Goldstar are two of the most gorgeous motorbikes currently in production. Even though I'm a newer rider, I think I recognize the love you have for your motorbike. These bikes are pretty rare in Coastal Southern California where I live. Thus my Classic 350 garners the compliments and smiles of admirers and inquisitive curiosity of strangers on my rides around town.
Hi Stephen, the RE Classic 350 is a lovely motorcycle it was probably my favourite in the range owing to the authentically classic looks. The new Meteor Aurora edition has probably now pipped that but only because it uses the classic engine and other trim bits! I had the meteor 350 and for me now I'd be hard pressed to have a twin, the BSA is the natural partner to a RE350 bike in my opinion. The BSA also garners comments much like your classic does, both great bikes.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thank you for your response and insight. I may have to get that BSA Goldstar. I'm curious if it has made its way to the USA yet. I'm going to keep a lookout for it.
Thanks very much Gav, that's too kind. It was a big job to put this one together and I'm very glad to hear people appreciated the content. Owners reviews are really the best kind of video I can do, as I know the bike inside out so it's easy to remember what to say and I think they are useful for people watching. If I owned a lot of bikes I'd do more of these for sure. Thanks again for the super superthanks, it goes a long way to motivate me to keep going on this channel. I hope you have a good weekend! Cheers, Sean.
Absolutely love the passion for bikes that you carry. Take a bow!!!!! Hands down the most detailed and well put review I have seen for any bike till date so far. Good job @MindfulMotorcyclist .
I own a 1952 BSA Goldflash and a BMW RnineT. When this bike was first shown to the public it didn't really appeal to me. But after finding out it's fitted with a Rotax derived engine. I wanted to learn more about the bike.To the point its really grown on me.
Great video. Very informative. Just sold my Meteor 350 today. Not sure how I feel about that tbh as I loved the bike but I felt the smaller engine was holding me back from doing longer, maybe foreign trips. I'm going to check out the BSA, Interceptor and Super Meteor but like you I am a fan of the single thumping along.
Hi Wayne, thanks for the comment and kind words. You sound like you had exactly the same experience as me, I miss my Meteor 350 to this day and I sold it in April 22. Tough decision but It was just underpowered and I wanted to ride to eastern Europe and Norway etc. I went up to 471cc and it just changed things so much. Cruising at 80 makes sense in Europe. New plan is to tour about on the BSA and I'm hoping 🤞 that the bike doesn't fall short. I mean 45hp isn't loads but it's got the torque with 652cc. Perhaps like me you'll consider re buying a Meteor... there 1000s of them and all really cheap (£2300 ish) so it's not hard to get back into Meteor ownership as a second bike should the mood take you.
@MindfulMotorcyclist On another note Sean, on a previous video I think you mentioned that you might try out a Puig screen. I fitted one myself recently and it certainly made a difference in the windy weather we've been having. Had a slight issue with fitting so I've had to do a bit of an adjustment although I haven't been out since to road test it again.
Great review Sean. You hit the nail on the head with so many of your comments. I've had my 'Goldie' for c.1k miles, had all the initial problems you mentioned (EML light, cut out etc.) but all sorted afer the first service. The only issue I have is not being able to get a consistent oil level reading with it bieng a dry sump. But, I'll live with that because otherwise I love the bike. Keep up the good work. Right, time for my dinner, followed by shower, then attack the ironing pile... 😂😂
Thank you Bob for the kind remarks. I am glad this video was well received. Oh my oil level is about 300ml over post service with a Kawasaki garage (they supplied the bike). I suspect it was filled when cold. I hope you continue to enjoy the Goldstar as I will! I cannot Iron to save my life, I only do it as a last resort in the hotel room before a conference 😂
Well done, Sean, this is a valuable review for those considering buying the BSA. Regarding some of the comments about the value of the bike relative to equipment, it’s a trade-off. No center stand, but you get several factory installed electrical ports. I think the current Enfield 650’s have one USB port. Many people focus their customization of these types of bikes around weight loss, and a center stand is one of the first things to go. I’m not saying it’s the smartest decision by BSA, but it shouldn’t be a deal breaker for anyone if they otherwise like the motorcycle.
Thank you Mark, that's appreciated. This review I'm quite proud of, seems to have hit the mark so thanks! Interesting point about the centre stands being removed. On the weight removal point I would love to lighten the BSA even more (post cat removal) by replacing the large front and rear mudguards and associated metal support struts but the downside would be much more debris flying into the radiator at the front and at the rear I'd lose the rear rack and also the panniers support rails. So you'd have a light bike unable to take luggage and requiring a lot of cleaning. That said a 'scrambler' style looks great, just not very practical. Funny as you said people always want to customise their bikes! There are so many ways to do it, sports bikes it's usually power and handling (usually expensive) retros it's usually the look and comfort. Cheers, Sean
Thanks very much Tom, really appreciate that and I agree with your comments RE the single. It's similar in feel to the RE 350s bikes except more powerful of course. I do always hanker for a Meteor again but I'd miss the punch the BSA has ...
As i came to know about this bike, I loved it, then had some doubts, then found your review, now I am buying the same bike the next month, same colour. Thanks from Punjab, India.
Thanks for the nice comment. Your bike won't have any of the early problems that the 22 model year bikes had. Congratulations on the new Motorcycle, I'm sure you will love the bike 🏍 😀 👍
Thanks for that. Lots of good information. I have fish tail shaped, mudguard extensions on the mudguards of my bikes. The modern style of short mudguards is no use where I live with cow pats, sileage and mud on the local roads. Well done & thanks again.
Great review Sean, as you know my very local West Lancashire BSA dealer fell out with them and doesn't sell any new bikes anymore so I've not kept up with prices and accessories. It really is crazy that there is no dealer in the North West of England, the nearest being in West Yorkshire, a very poor state of affairs BSA, very poor.
Hi Ian, thanks for the comment. The motorcycle itself is flawed but so so endearing, its bringing a lot of joy to the owners - I based my review on the bike really. The behind the scenes operation however is another thing entirely and some of the gaffes they've made goes as far as to make me mad. This bike could have been like the Triumph 400 series selling 200 units a month but it's been royally mismanaged (shipping delays, quality issues, greedy launch pricing - it should have been £5599 OTR, poor communication, backtracking on the warranty, iffy marketing, accessories still not available, theyve sought to screw every penny out of the dealers which has put their backs up- a lot are just taking or leaving BSA sales now, heck even the owners manual was wrong at launch. I could go on. They snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory... such a shame. And between BSA itself, the importer we will likely never know who said what to whom but I don't blame the dealers one bit. They've had a rough time with this brand... 😕
So right my dealer Matt Williamson has a reputation for integrity which he was losing thanks to BSA. Luckily he will still service the bikes, he just won't sell them.
Thanks Sean for the excellent review. I am becoming more and more interested in the BSA , in large part due to your reviews and enthusiasm with your ownership experience. I am hoping to be able to test ride one soon, but I don’t think they are available yet in this country. At least I haven’t seen or heard of any dealerships locally who are offering them. They are a beautiful looking and sounding ride and would tick the boxes for me as a long time “ plodder”, as you say. BTW, Mallorca looks beautiful and is now added to my bucket list. Cheers to you both and ride safe, Dan. 🏍✌️🇨🇦
Thanks Dan, I do think they would have their share of fans in North America. There are lots of aficionados of BSA of old who I'm sure would jump at the chance to ride a new one. I really like mine but I suppose I will say it's not a perfect bike and I like it for the value exchange, what you get for £5000 is truly a fantastic owner experience of a unique modern retro. That said if you are unlucky you can be a beta tester and end up resolving the bikes problems for the manufacturer. I'll see how mine goes, if it's reliable as the miles clock up I'll be even happier. At least by the time they enter your market you could assume the teething problems have been ironed out! Thanks a lot for the comment and support of the channel as always, this is appreciated 👍😁. Have a lovely weekend Dan.
1. If it's liquid cooled, why does engine have fins? Doing that might have increased manufacturing cost, may be 2. By looking at the front wheel and handle bar , i suspect this bike has more turning radius compared to interceptor. What is your observation? 3. About vibrations and mileage?
Thanks for a great video, I appreciate your honesty and style. Ive just discovered your channel and I have subscribed and I'm looking forward to future videos. Take care and ride safe.
The standard of your work has soared. I’d be interested in your comparison with a classic Triumph 650 twin from 1969 or 70 if you can borrow one. Same purchase price and engine output. Your riding style, and this is not a criticism, seems like it might suit a vintage bike. Thank you.
This is a lovely comment to read in the morning thank you ever so much! I've never ridden a classic bike to be honest. I once bumped into the Herefordshire Vintage motorcycle club in Ledbury, i stopped just to look at the bikes. I believe they have a 25 year old or more rule but are quite flexible with who joins them on rides out. At the time I was on a 12 month old Chinese Adventure bike so some members gave me a funny look as you can imagine! I'll keep my ear to the ground regarding the Triumph 650 twin, good suggestion. Have a good day, regards, Sean.
Good review. I had engine light on. My fault I think as since I started waiting for it to go out before starting it's never come back. Also engine stopping has started happening. Only when changing down so will hopefully see dealer for ecu flash. But I really like the bike. Pulls really well without having to rev it.
Thanks Charlie, appreciate the comment. I assume mine is on the early ecu map being a 72 plate bike that was serviced by the local dealer non bsa. I suspect it came to me as it left the factory. I now wait for the needle to sweep and back, EML to go out then thumb the starter button. I read on the FB group that a guy solved his stalling issue by the dealer remap so I hope that will work for you. Have you also tried running it on E5 fuel to see if there is any effect? Cheers, Sean
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I will try e5 again but it was fine on e10 for at least half mileage I.ve done. Bit then I can rule that out if dealer asks. It only does it occasionally. Worst was 4 times in 80mile back road run. Only when changing down gears. Never when idling or setting off. Not over worrying as plenty seem to do it. So should get sorted
Just refilled my tank after 2nd ride on e5. It cut out 4 times in 35miles ish. Now on e10 again. Same ride. Never cut out . Nearly did once.Well manual says e10 so I.m sticking with it. Oh and I propped back wheel with stick on level ground and it wanted to roll back like you experienced. Usually I do it sloping down on my drive so that explains it. 👍🏻
Hi Glen, yes BSA will no doubt argue that parts are easily available and to be fair the bits I did order for my repairs that were in stock came overnight (gear leaver, bar end, brake lever) from fowlers Bristol. It was the mudguard that there was a 5 week wait on. Dealer miles away doesn't help indeed. Thanks for the comment 👍 😀
Very good owners review Sean it would be interesting to find out the date stamp on your tyres just to see how old they are , I do remember the 1970's Suzuki's I think the old Hustler 250 and T500 two strokes had rubber mounts in the the handlebar mounts as it goes . Well done on this one 👌👍
Thank you very much Crumbly, appreciate the comment. I've check the tyres. Front made in Indonesia 2019, rear made in China 2021. I've reached out to my supplying dealer and he told me to contact BSA... of course he doesn't want to fit new tyres. BSA specifically exempt tyres from the warranty so I don't think I've got much room to move. Thanks for the point about the rubber mounts, I didn't know that, a few people have mentioned other, older bikes that had them. Thanks for the support. Cheers, Sean
I found some of the comments strange, It can't be compared to the original, who wants to kick a bike off,for a start, now the price has dropped to £5500. And you're looking for a big single, It can be customised to suit the pilot. Take the rose goggles off,the old machines weren't that great,been riding 58years I know which one I would rather sling me leg over,..excellent review...might get one.
Excellent review! One thing I might have missed was handling and whether you would call it neutral or tippy or? Does it turn in smoothly with no quirky handling? But thank you for giving such an in depth review. I have a moto Guzzi v7 that isn’t working for me and I’m thinking this or RE super meteor.
Thank you for the comment Tom, the handling is very stable, it doesn't turn in that sharply and rides like a big Classic 350 with more power. With the BSA versus supermeteor I actually have a video on that exact topic called Bobs dilemma as it was a subscriber Bob who asked me. In short the SM650 you buy with your head and BSA with your heart...
Thanks, great review, very comprehensive with detailed pros/cons. I plan to buy it soon. BTW, I like the jacket you are wearning, may I know the brand and model please. Also, which city is where this video is shot? Thank you.
Great review. I've been thinking of one of these and they are great value as you say, and seem like a nice bike. I've heard some horror stories of wiring harness failure around the headstock but obviously this is not commonplace. Friend, if you want to keep riding into old age, and I mention this because I care, I would advise trying to talk without using your hands so much and keep them on the 'bars! Great review otherwise and many thanks!
Good video. How do you find the pannier bags? I'm looking for some to fit on my Bonnerville SE. They might be a bit too big. Like the bike , I had one in 1958, put a copper megaphone on it while using it in North Wales where I lived for a few years ( Nant Gwynant, near Beddgelert ) (Snowdon area) Went through a few clutches as the gearing was a bit too high. Moved onto a T110 Triumph. They are not available in Australia. If they were I would probably buy one. Thanks again. Graham, Bundaberg, Queensland, Ausi...
I'm just curios. What type of fuel economy does Your BSA get ? ( In miles per gallon, please . Thank you. ) I did enjoy your review, and hope we can get BSA's in the States soon.
Love mine . Decat full exhaust 3500 on it . Revs far better than the stifling rubbish it comes with as std . Altered back light . Blocked spokes up with RTV run tubeless avons . Don't have problems with cutting out I think cos engine isn't stifled anymore .EML no bother cos I follow correct start up process . Also fitted 17t gear sprocket . Totally different bike now 27:13
I have some aliexpress risers £8 on order as we speak. I've got short arms and I don't like the reach to the bars. I had risers on my last bike but unfortunately let it go with the riser on. Thanks, Sean
You had me searching autotrader for used prices, even though I have no intention of getting one :-) Good value used considering what their original price was. I agree with what you say about singles vs twins, but I guess it also depends on the firing order.
One thing against it, the engine is over square 100mm×83mm so it doesnt quite have the character of something like a Meteor 350 for example. If I was to pick holes.
Agree that an owner's review is way preferable to an advertorial 'demo ride review.' Roger from 'Oldie n Goldie' fitted a mod plate to angle the clocks which I think looks much better.
Thanks FR, I did look at the 'clock mod' and it's very cool to be fair but at £160 you've really got to want it. I'm not sure which direction to go with it yet... could be something for the future for sure.
Excellent detailed review!! And very honest. What i feel is poor britishers have been made nothing but test mules The bike after getting all its niggles settled, has launched in India Hopefully, this thumper will see larger numbers here. Seeing the 500cc bullet is absent and is being dearly missed by many. Edit: Be ready for some crazy troll action and syco fans in comments.
Hi Robert, I have to confess I'm no tyre expert. I know that my Conti SportAttack4s once fully warm allow me to grind my toe sliders 😂, but as far as the range of tyres out there I don't have enough experience to say. I like Continental as a brand I had the TKC70 rocks on my other bike and you could lean that over even with the blocky tread pattern. Never rode on dunlops! Thanks.
Hi Ian, I didn't in the end. I'd been over and over this one and eventually we had to stop adding bits and just publish it. I can tell you tho it's the most comfortable bike Suzie has ever been pillion on. She really really likes it. Thanks.
Thanks Steve, well I did list the downside in great detail to be fair to anyone considering a purchase. Let's hope the Fuel map is well and truly updated by the time they reach your shores (lake shores😁). Thanks for the comment and feedback.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist as you said, many problems seem to be User-induced problems, that you take care of in pointing out, and for many an experienced long term rider should be either obvious or second nature..., or the new owners of such a beautiful bike, have watched and carefully listened to your "public service" videos and thereafter have a carefree ride and "thumping" good times doing so!
very good info , even though i don't own one ,,, the spares situation is a bit unforgivable ,, other than colours - there is only one model ;;;;; so sending over bits could not be simpler ,,,, you only need the same parts all the time , bike has settled in well and seems good value ;;
Thanks Simon, I did raise this with Fowlers who now manage all BSA parts supply and they said its simply a question of storage, there's not room for every part. Then again folwers support all brands or many of the main ones anyway. They do need to airfreight parts over from India though. 5 weeks is too long...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist yes , i know friends that have accounts with fowlers , as for space - they took it on so why hold up spares , if they can't manage let someone else have the franchise ;;;
@@simongilbert2704 I agree, they could at least have 2-3 mudguards of every colour and some indicators and brake levers in the country. People will brake those items over time.
I will eventually change the fork springs to a progressive type yes, I do need to dismantle and find the spec of said springs first just need the time really... thanks 👍
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Maybe you should not.... The "emulators" that YSS sells provide *dual-rate damping* , not dual-rate (i.e. progressive) springs. In fact, YSS includes as a part of their kits single-rate springs to replace the OEM dual-rate springs. The "emulators" provide a high damping rate for slowly building compressions from small bumps, and a low damping rate for quickly building compressions from big bumps. There are very enthusiastic reports on UA-cam about the handling improvement to Royal Enfield bikes, and I expect that YSS would eventually make kits for the BSA Gold Star as well. It does take some user knowledge of suspension damping, though, as the emulators have to be adjusted to make the transition between the 2 damping rates appropriate for the usual weight and loading of the bike.
j'ai acheté cette moto l'année dernière et j'en suis globalement content . Juste quelques problème de calage moteur au ralenti et aussi suspension arrière et avant sur mauvaises routes . je roule depuis 50 ans en BSA monocylindres et c'est ma 5e BSA ! quelle est l'adresse pour un pot inox décatalisé ?
Bsa india get your act together!! I was really excited about bsa name coming back, looking forward to other names being revived, but looking unlikely now 😥
I had the same rubbish tyres on my Enfield. Very disappointing. A set of Bridgestone's transformed the handling. Eagerly awaiting the bikes here in the peoples republic of kalifornia.
Thanks for the comment. I've now got rid of the tyres and the handling is about the same... I'm now on Knobby off road tyres. At least you expect it to be vague on these 😃
Hi Ian, thanks for the comment. The initial reliability problems sometimes were too much and some people traded in, or I suppose like the Interceptor 650 these are Sunday bikes and don't get ridden a lot. You can find 4 year old RE 650s with 5k miles on them. You can also find the supermeteor with 1200 miles. I think it's the type of bike plus the awful British weather people just don't ride them. That would be my guess.
I couldn't agree more, I also have the Daytona as you might have seen on here. That wouldn't be the same at all. It's also nice to hop on hop off if you just need to pop to a bakery or the like. They also prioritise 'moto' parking over here which is so smart and handy. Thanks for the comment Kenneth. 👍
I saw one in the showroom next to a Meteor and to be honest the Meteor looked way better - Some bits like the fake barrel pushrod tube and plastic cowl on the fuel injector looked so cheap and the pedals looked like they were off a tractor - the radiator looked all misplaced
BSA is very much a bike you buy with your heart not your head. Yes up close the Meteor is better (I've owned both), in particular RE paint is a very high quality finish full of lustre and durable. You buy a BSA because it's a BSA, it's proportions/look and it's a big single...
Great review. The funny thing is that even if the parts are coming from India, the actual bike isn't launched yet in India. Indian company does not launch an India made bike in India. Madness.
Hi David, sorry for the delayed reply here. This was on the bike when I bought it but I think it's a generic one not a BSA one. It's secured with a little plastic screw that goes through a hole someone has drilled in the Mudguard. It's a adapted mod for sure.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thanks for your reply, my Gold Star has BSA in it's registration mark, that is worth few quid alone. I have already installed, a pair of Girling shrouded rear shocks, a TEC tail tidy, a classic style horn, drop handlebars, Stadium stainless bar end mirrors, the Moore Speed Gold Star engine badges like you have and a TEC short baffle.
Tut tut tut How many STOP junctions did you not actually stop at 😮😂 I did a quick Autotrader search and yes these are starting to come to the second hand market now, which is great, because as I said to a biker mate recently, imagine I've just upgraded from a 125 only to find on a new but bigger bike I have to ride it gently to run it in 😮 Nah, forget that, I'd buy second hand, already run in, first services carried out, any niggles hopefully already attended to and money saved. I prefer the Highland green colour too, and further down the line you could easily get the tank and guards resprayed to a different heritage colour if so wished. Plus due to the nature of the bike, it probably wouldn't have been thrashed. Which brings me to a question, how is it on dual carriageways or motorways at higher sustained speed? Great overall owner's honest review, it's probably the better type of reviews out there, rather than one based on limited time as a demo.
Haha, yes I admit not got to grips with the local roads yet. They said if this was the UK 10+ people would have commented. It seemed to go under the radar 😂. Oh yes 100%, much as they would hate to hear this don't buy the brand new bike, nearly new all the way. Someone else has done the boring running in, paid for a £200 oil change but a few things to add when you speak to your mate. The previous owner has also paid the VAT and thus taken the initial depreciation, paid £40-100 delivery (avoidable to be fair if you collect it), they've paid £150-300 on the road charges and if you're lucky he's also splashed out on the accessories catalogue (I had a fender extender, screen and a rear rack on mine). The chap rode it only for 227 miles and in the dry, you still get the warranty and dealer suppoer. Dealers do seem to be aware of this temptation however and nearly new bikes are around 300-500 off new. I suspect buying nearly new from someone private who's had a change of heart or circumstance would yield really big savings. This is coming from someone who bought the Meteor 350 and the Voge 500DSX new! On motorways this bike will do 80 easily (it will do 100+) but it's a naked so it's a bit blowy at 70mph with wind blast. Not that fun 😕. Cheers, Sean
Owner reviews are more honest. They are more truthful and mention bad points as well. Half the price of a real BSA Gold 🪙 Star ⭐,real thing won't lose value. Plastic parts won't hold up over time.
I was just looking at the Benneli 702 adv bike,, it sells for 6900,,but comes with all the luggage ,,, compare that to the BSA which does not even come with a center stand..How Sean can say its good value I do,nt know !!!
Last bike was a Voge500DSX, £5.6k full luggage and all day comfort with weather protection. You can get them for £4k now. I felt it didn't have any character in the end so went BSA instead...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist OK Sean I can,t blame you for that,, I bought a Honda NC700 when they first came out,, talk about souless bike ,, I nearly slashed my wrists... but just cos its got a anme on the tank we know,,does not always make a great deal..anyway I comming down to spain in a few weeeks to sort you out,,,you need educating,,, cheers
I'm 73 years old and bought my first new motorcycle when I was 18. That my boy, was the best, most complete review I think I've ever seen. Thank you.
Thank you so much. I worked hard on this review it meant a lot to me to get right and important for the channel. Really appreciate the kind words 👍😊
Triumph Bonneville's of the '70s had rubber mounts in the top yoke. Long established way to reduce vibes. 👍
Thanks Andrew, nice to know 👍
Lots of vloggers have reviewed this bike, many comparing it to "old" BSA models of the Interceptor. I've just test ridden one and part exchanged my Ducati Icon for a new one. Why? Because it's what it is, a modern classic, not a copy but a new iteration. If you've ridden an air cooled bike in summer the engine heat is unpleasant. If you've toured across Europe on an air cooled bike, they don't like the heat. The 650 single is vibration free and responsive with a slick gearbox. The Goldstar is not up to Triumph quality, (I'm lucky enough to own both a Bobber and a Street Twin), but at the price £6299 off you shouldn't expect it to be. My BSA dealer is 22 miles away which provides local support should I need it. Go in with your eyes open and accept the new Goldstar for what it is, a modern classic. Having owned and ridden many bikes over 48 years from experience I can tell you that no bike is perfect. It's the feel good factor, "does it have soul" that will let you know if it's for you. Don't knock it until you've tried it.
That's an excellent comment! Thank you for sharing. I agree that if you are realistic about the BSA's offering you will be happy. It is not a T100 in quality or performance but then no one (sensible) is saying it should be. A T100 is £9,595.00...
Great overview. I’ve had my March 2023 Goldstar tucked up in the shed for several months as weather has been so bad. Finally got out for a ride yesterday. Started perfectly and after 30 mins, remembered why I love the bike so much. The engine is fab!
Thanks Julie, lovely comment and great to hear from a fellow owner. Glad your bike is treating you well and you're enjoying it. Cheers, Sean
Good work, just subscribed. We took delivery of 2 reduced Goldies yesterday, your chanel has been very helpful, we are proud owners of 350 classics but want the ton up feel some times, love the big singles😊 cheers P&S
Thank you Peter really appreciate that. Many congratulations, I wish you all the best luck with your new bikes, I too came from an RE 350 and I feel the Goldie is a natural progression, same thump with a little more power... both RE and BSA are excellent IMO
Great review Sean! I watched this video whilst having my dinner,then had a shower ,ironed my clothes and yr still chatting!!😂😂😂😂 love you bud 😉
Went a little mad on this one didn't I 😂😂. The mindful monologue we should rename this channel. P.s 'The torque is addictive' 😍
@@MindfulMotorcyclist 😂🤣😂🤣😂 Did I mention the torque is addictive then?!? 🤔 😂
😂😂😂 - gets me every time. Bet all the big channels pinch that catch phrase now! I'll comment that you were the first!!!
Great review thanks. I've been following your owner experience and checking out the various forums, and for a new-to-market model the BSA has very few problems. The EML on start up is either user error in pressing the starter too soon, or due to the electronics being set for a warmer climate. A few have cracked their headlight lenses, and of course some are prone to occasional stalling, which is as bad as it seems to get. I've also considered the Guzzi V7, but lots have problems galore that owners cheerily write off as "character". And that bike's been around for decades! I've got a mate with a beautiful and very expensive Ducati that has spent so much time in the dealership trying to sort out the dodgy electronics, that he bought a old z1000 which he says is far more fun anyway! I reckon BSA has done a fantastic job with the Gold Star, and I'm pleased you're enjoying it so much. I've already got a zx12r that I've owned for nearly 20 years for faster, longer rides. But, I'm definitely looking at the BSA as a present for my upcoming 60th birthday because that single sounds fantastic on the throttle. Cheers.
Hi Jerry, thanks for the comment. I guess while I've been hyper focused on the Goldstar specifically I missed the fact that all brands seem to have problems... even BMW. The new Triumph 400s as an example seem to have the immobiliser stuck on and reports of people cranking the bike 10-11 times before it will start. I didn't know the V7 had any issues but then I don't go on groups for owners of that bike! Well good luck with what ever bike you do go for and Happy Birthday in advance! Life's too short sometimes... thanks, Sean
A very detailed and well presented testimony. This should be the "go to" review for anyone thinking of buying a Gold Star. 👍
Thank you Luddite, that's high praise indeed and I'm very thankful to you. Have a good weekend!
Sean, this is probably the best review I’ve seen of the BSA. As you said, a brief test ride doesn’t really give you enough experience to adequately judge a bike. As far as tires, experienced testers will often tell you OEM tires are not the same quality or performance as replacement tires of the same brand and model. I had Ceat tires as original equipment on my 650 Interceptor and despite all the internet complaints, I used them for 6000 miles and only replaced them when they were due. The only time the tires were questionable was when I rode on grooved pavement, or rode at higher speeds. If I were riding in those conditions regularly, I would have replaced the tires sooner. The new tires make the bike much more stable at high speeds. These modern classic bikes can’t be compared on a value basis with other modern bikes. They’re not great dynamically, they don’t have all the modern technology, and they use heavier materials to accomplish their design goals. My 19 year old BMW with a similar 650 engine weighs about 40 pounds less, has a couple more horsepower, has Brembo brakes, a single-sided swingarm, belt drive and handles way better than my Interceptor. Which draws more attention, and which do I ride more, the Interceptor. It’s not better in any measurable way, but I prefer it for cruising around.
By the way, I like waffles, maybe more than hotcakes. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Alvin for the kind comment. This was an important video to get right. I hope it serves as a useful guide going forward for people. I followed the CEAT controversy in the RE community and i am one who would have just run the factory tyres until they were worn enough to replaced naturally. Chucking perfectly good tyres seems and awful waste to me. Im sure some will disagree. My bike being one of the first to enter the UK back in Feb 23 has old tyres, I've now started pixel peeping on other pictures riders have uploaded of their BSAs (provided they used a good phone/camera) today I saw one on a 23 plate so that's March to Sept 23 and it has 2022 manufactured tyres. Mine aas 2019. I think I've been unlucky and had a bike that was stored through covid then shipped. I'll be changing my tyres to some with an aggressive tread for some gravel trails and light adventures. They will probably inspire more confidence than the road based pirellis!! I also read once that OEM bike suspension is not even the same as the kits you buy as an aftermarket upgrade. Not all Ohlins kits are equal, amazing they would do that but there you are. Someone pointed out that the BSA is not good value as its not got feature A,B or C etc compared to another bike and yes that's true but in the modern retro space, these BSAs I think offer a good experience for the money. I personally love a £5-6k bike, it's enough so you get something nice you can cherish but not too much that you're always worried about paint chips and securely parking the thing. Definitely a balance to be had. The interceptor is another hop on and go bike which is love. Sport bikes for all their adrenaline, are such a faff. Zipping up the power ranger suit to go for a ride... gets boring. Anyway that was a suitable waffle 🧇. Enjoy your week and thanks again for the support and comment 👍 😀
Tyres not tires the two words have completely different meanings. I thought that only the Americans could make that mistake.
Great review. My second bike was a BSA 650. about 65 years ago. Wonderful bike, it would show a rear tire to Nortons of the day. Second gear was incredible !
Thanks for the kind comment Doug 😀
Excellent review - test rode one yesterday: city, bypass & country roads - WoW! impressed. Currently got a RE 350 classic (bought end of last year so will keep for this year). Looking to move up for next season! Thanks.
In India beggars use royal Enfield classic to beg
Great review Sean, love your no BS completely honest approach. l did test ride one last summer and l really liked it but eventually l got a 6 year old T120, carry on loving your BSA take care 👍
Thanks very much Mark. Yes ill never get invited to a brand product launch with how I talk about bikes 😂😂. I've made my peace with that and the show goes on 😀😁. I also looked at many a T120, I do really like them and they seem to hold their value well, id like a test ride but i triumph dont seem to run dealer demo days and id feel a bit dishonest going to an individual dealer and pretending to be a genuine buyer. I'd probably of had one of the ones with the chrome parts but I like how passionate 2 wheeled Willie is about his T120 black! He's got loads of spare parts i think he said he would give them away to a viewer who needed them and could collect... might be useful.
I think Royal Enfield kicked the baby out along with the bath water when they axed the Classic 500. Not only is the 500 a way better bike than the all new 'plastic' 350 on just about every level but they left the door open for BSA to fill the gap with this great machine. Nice review mate 🙂
Thanks very much Richard 😀 👍
Thank you for all the work that went into this comprehensive overview of the BSA, best review out there. Top marks, thanks again!
Thanks Richard, again this is a really nice comment. It was quite a bit of writing notes, one day out on the bike and a second day doing the piece to camera (in a ferocious wind 😂), then day editing it all. The owners reviews are my best efforts on here and I want to keep that up, so I'm really glad to read this comment. Thank you again.
This is a thorough long term review. Thank You for making this video! While waiting for the BSA Goldstar to make it to our shores here in the USA I decided to purchase a 2023 Royal Enfield Classic 350 in Chrome-Bronze about a year ago (03/31/2023) which I absolutely love and cherish. So, the question for me is should I add the BSA Goldstar to my existing future stable after it arrives in the US or go for something different considering I already have a single cylinder "thumper" with my 2023 RE Classic 350 which i plan on keeping. For me the Classic 350 and the BSA Goldstar are two of the most gorgeous motorbikes currently in production. Even though I'm a newer rider, I think I recognize the love you have for your motorbike. These bikes are pretty rare in Coastal Southern California where I live. Thus my Classic 350 garners the compliments and smiles of admirers and inquisitive curiosity of strangers on my rides around town.
Hi Stephen, the RE Classic 350 is a lovely motorcycle it was probably my favourite in the range owing to the authentically classic looks. The new Meteor Aurora edition has probably now pipped that but only because it uses the classic engine and other trim bits! I had the meteor 350 and for me now I'd be hard pressed to have a twin, the BSA is the natural partner to a RE350 bike in my opinion. The BSA also garners comments much like your classic does, both great bikes.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thank you for your response and insight. I may have to get that BSA Goldstar. I'm curious if it has made its way to the USA yet. I'm going to keep a lookout for it.
Great review Sean, comprehensive, informative and great countryside tour as well! Now if only they would sell these in Australia!
Thanks very much Gav, that's too kind. It was a big job to put this one together and I'm very glad to hear people appreciated the content. Owners reviews are really the best kind of video I can do, as I know the bike inside out so it's easy to remember what to say and I think they are useful for people watching. If I owned a lot of bikes I'd do more of these for sure. Thanks again for the super superthanks, it goes a long way to motivate me to keep going on this channel. I hope you have a good weekend! Cheers, Sean.
Absolutely love the passion for bikes that you carry. Take a bow!!!!!
Hands down the most detailed and well put review I have seen for any bike till date so far.
Good job @MindfulMotorcyclist .
Thank you very much for this kind comment, that's made my day 😀 😊 👍
I own a 1952 BSA Goldflash and a BMW RnineT. When this bike was first shown to the public it didn't really appeal to me. But after finding out it's fitted with a Rotax derived engine. I wanted to learn more about the bike.To the point its really grown on me.
Great video. Very informative. Just sold my Meteor 350 today. Not sure how I feel about that tbh as I loved the bike but I felt the smaller engine was holding me back from doing longer, maybe foreign trips. I'm going to check out the BSA, Interceptor and Super Meteor but like you I am a fan of the single thumping along.
Hi Wayne, thanks for the comment and kind words. You sound like you had exactly the same experience as me, I miss my Meteor 350 to this day and I sold it in April 22. Tough decision but It was just underpowered and I wanted to ride to eastern Europe and Norway etc. I went up to 471cc and it just changed things so much. Cruising at 80 makes sense in Europe. New plan is to tour about on the BSA and I'm hoping 🤞 that the bike doesn't fall short. I mean 45hp isn't loads but it's got the torque with 652cc. Perhaps like me you'll consider re buying a Meteor... there 1000s of them and all really cheap (£2300 ish) so it's not hard to get back into Meteor ownership as a second bike should the mood take you.
Exceptional review, showing me things about this bike that I was not aware of!! Thank you!
Really appreciate that comment thanks 😊
Top man, Sean. Another very enjoyable video. You've rapidly become my favourite source of info on the BSA. Keep it up! 👍🏻
Thank you very much Mark, very much appreciate the kind words. Have a good weekend! Sean
@MindfulMotorcyclist On another note Sean, on a previous video I think you mentioned that you might try out a Puig screen. I fitted one myself recently and it certainly made a difference in the windy weather we've been having. Had a slight issue with fitting so I've had to do a bit of an adjustment although I haven't been out since to road test it again.
Great review Sean.
You hit the nail on the head with so many of your comments. I've had my 'Goldie' for c.1k miles, had all the initial problems you mentioned (EML light, cut out etc.) but all sorted afer the first service.
The only issue I have is not being able to get a consistent oil level reading with it bieng a dry sump. But, I'll live with that because otherwise I love the bike.
Keep up the good work.
Right, time for my dinner, followed by shower, then attack the ironing pile... 😂😂
Thank you Bob for the kind remarks. I am glad this video was well received. Oh my oil level is about 300ml over post service with a Kawasaki garage (they supplied the bike). I suspect it was filled when cold. I hope you continue to enjoy the Goldstar as I will! I cannot Iron to save my life, I only do it as a last resort in the hotel room before a conference 😂
Well done, Sean, this is a valuable review for those considering buying the BSA. Regarding some of the comments about the value of the bike relative to equipment, it’s a trade-off. No center stand, but you get several factory installed electrical ports. I think the current Enfield 650’s have one USB port. Many people focus their customization of these types of bikes around weight loss, and a center stand is one of the first things to go. I’m not saying it’s the smartest decision by BSA, but it shouldn’t be a deal breaker for anyone if they otherwise like the motorcycle.
Thank you Mark, that's appreciated. This review I'm quite proud of, seems to have hit the mark so thanks! Interesting point about the centre stands being removed. On the weight removal point I would love to lighten the BSA even more (post cat removal) by replacing the large front and rear mudguards and associated metal support struts but the downside would be much more debris flying into the radiator at the front and at the rear I'd lose the rear rack and also the panniers support rails. So you'd have a light bike unable to take luggage and requiring a lot of cleaning. That said a 'scrambler' style looks great, just not very practical. Funny as you said people always want to customise their bikes! There are so many ways to do it, sports bikes it's usually power and handling (usually expensive) retros it's usually the look and comfort. Cheers, Sean
Really enjoyable review thanks- there’s nothing like the sound of a single and the way you can coast along without much throttle...cheers
Thanks very much Tom, really appreciate that and I agree with your comments RE the single. It's similar in feel to the RE 350s bikes except more powerful of course. I do always hanker for a Meteor again but I'd miss the punch the BSA has ...
As i came to know about this bike, I loved it, then had some doubts, then found your review, now I am buying the same bike the next month, same colour. Thanks from Punjab, India.
Thanks for the nice comment. Your bike won't have any of the early problems that the 22 model year bikes had. Congratulations on the new Motorcycle, I'm sure you will love the bike 🏍 😀 👍
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thanks sir, eagerly waiting for the bike, pretty excited!
Thanks for that. Lots of good information. I have fish tail shaped, mudguard extensions on the mudguards of my bikes. The modern style of short mudguards is no use where I live with cow pats, sileage and mud on the local roads. Well done & thanks again.
Thank you Peter for the kind comment and support 👍😄
Great review Sean, as you know my very local West Lancashire BSA dealer fell out with them and doesn't sell any new bikes anymore so I've not kept up with prices and accessories. It really is crazy that there is no dealer in the North West of England, the nearest being in West Yorkshire, a very poor state of affairs BSA, very poor.
Hi Ian, thanks for the comment. The motorcycle itself is flawed but so so endearing, its bringing a lot of joy to the owners - I based my review on the bike really. The behind the scenes operation however is another thing entirely and some of the gaffes they've made goes as far as to make me mad. This bike could have been like the Triumph 400 series selling 200 units a month but it's been royally mismanaged (shipping delays, quality issues, greedy launch pricing - it should have been £5599 OTR, poor communication, backtracking on the warranty, iffy marketing, accessories still not available, theyve sought to screw every penny out of the dealers which has put their backs up- a lot are just taking or leaving BSA sales now, heck even the owners manual was wrong at launch. I could go on. They snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory... such a shame. And between BSA itself, the importer we will likely never know who said what to whom but I don't blame the dealers one bit. They've had a rough time with this brand... 😕
So right my dealer Matt Williamson has a reputation for integrity which he was losing thanks to BSA. Luckily he will still service the bikes, he just won't sell them.
Mahindra bought the BSA name and did an excellent job of honoring that illustrious moniker !
You support Mahindra then? Not many that open minded on here 😀👏👍
Thanks Sean for the excellent review. I am becoming more and more interested in the BSA , in large part due to your reviews and enthusiasm with your ownership experience. I am hoping to be able to test ride one soon, but I don’t think they are available yet in this country. At least I haven’t seen or heard of any dealerships locally who are offering them. They are a beautiful looking and sounding ride and would tick the boxes for me as a long time “ plodder”, as you say. BTW, Mallorca looks beautiful and is now added to my bucket list. Cheers to you both and ride safe, Dan. 🏍✌️🇨🇦
Thanks Dan, I do think they would have their share of fans in North America. There are lots of aficionados of BSA of old who I'm sure would jump at the chance to ride a new one. I really like mine but I suppose I will say it's not a perfect bike and I like it for the value exchange, what you get for £5000 is truly a fantastic owner experience of a unique modern retro. That said if you are unlucky you can be a beta tester and end up resolving the bikes problems for the manufacturer. I'll see how mine goes, if it's reliable as the miles clock up I'll be even happier. At least by the time they enter your market you could assume the teething problems have been ironed out! Thanks a lot for the comment and support of the channel as always, this is appreciated 👍😁. Have a lovely weekend Dan.
We, in the USA, are waiting for BSA to get back to the states.
Let's see if they do... 🤞🤞
1. If it's liquid cooled, why does engine have fins? Doing that might have increased manufacturing cost, may be
2. By looking at the front wheel and handle bar , i suspect this bike has more turning radius compared to interceptor. What is your observation?
3. About vibrations and mileage?
Such a fantastic review....you nailed it,Sean !
Thank you Naranda, really appreciate that 🙏 😊
A proper review an how it should be
Thank you for effort and time required in producing
Only really watch owners reviews
Thank you Stanley, very kind of you to say. I did like making this one, my gosh the wind was blowing tho 😂😂.
Where is the weight on bike is it too heavy or is it low down?
Great review, might be the decider for me (Enfield 500 Clubman currently), thanks very much.
Thanks Sean good honest review looking forward to this brand of motorcycle being released in Australia
Thank you Malcolm! I am hoping BSA release in ANZ soon, you are certainly not the only commenter from the region wanting to try out a Goldstar...
This is a really good review very interesting and informative, thank you.
Thanks for a great video, I appreciate your honesty and style. Ive just discovered your channel and I have subscribed and I'm looking forward to future videos. Take care and ride safe.
Thank you LHW, appreciate the support 🙏
The standard of your work has soared. I’d be interested in your comparison with a classic Triumph 650 twin from 1969 or 70 if you can borrow one. Same purchase price and engine output. Your riding style, and this is not a criticism, seems like it might suit a vintage bike. Thank you.
This is a lovely comment to read in the morning thank you ever so much! I've never ridden a classic bike to be honest. I once bumped into the Herefordshire Vintage motorcycle club in Ledbury, i stopped just to look at the bikes. I believe they have a 25 year old or more rule but are quite flexible with who joins them on rides out. At the time I was on a 12 month old Chinese Adventure bike so some members gave me a funny look as you can imagine! I'll keep my ear to the ground regarding the Triumph 650 twin, good suggestion. Have a good day, regards, Sean.
Good review. I had engine light on. My fault I think as since I started waiting for it to go out before starting it's never come back. Also engine stopping has started happening. Only when changing down so will hopefully see dealer for ecu flash. But I really like the bike. Pulls really well without having to rev it.
Thanks Charlie, appreciate the comment. I assume mine is on the early ecu map being a 72 plate bike that was serviced by the local dealer non bsa. I suspect it came to me as it left the factory. I now wait for the needle to sweep and back, EML to go out then thumb the starter button. I read on the FB group that a guy solved his stalling issue by the dealer remap so I hope that will work for you. Have you also tried running it on E5 fuel to see if there is any effect? Cheers, Sean
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I will try e5 again but it was fine on e10 for at least half mileage I.ve done. Bit then I can rule that out if dealer asks. It only does it occasionally. Worst was 4 times in 80mile back road run. Only when changing down gears. Never when idling or setting off. Not over worrying as plenty seem to do it. So should get sorted
No difference with shell v power. Hope they get a sort
out. Mine only does it a couple of times in a 50 mile ride. Probably the lean running.
Just refilled my tank after 2nd ride on e5. It cut out 4 times in 35miles ish. Now on e10 again. Same ride. Never cut out . Nearly did once.Well manual says e10 so I.m sticking with it. Oh and I propped back wheel with stick on level ground and it wanted to roll back like you experienced. Usually I do it sloping down on my drive so that explains it. 👍🏻
I put BP optimate in today it said E10 on the pump. Not sure what that was but she's got E10 in her now.
Great review sean , i am a meteor 350 owner and my only concerns would be the parts issue and having my nearest dealer probably about 100 miles away !
Hi Glen, yes BSA will no doubt argue that parts are easily available and to be fair the bits I did order for my repairs that were in stock came overnight (gear leaver, bar end, brake lever) from fowlers Bristol. It was the mudguard that there was a 5 week wait on. Dealer miles away doesn't help indeed. Thanks for the comment 👍 😀
Very good owners review Sean it would be interesting to find out the date stamp on your tyres just to see how old they are , I do remember the 1970's Suzuki's I think the old Hustler 250 and T500 two strokes had rubber mounts in the the handlebar mounts as it goes . Well done on this one 👌👍
Thank you very much Crumbly, appreciate the comment. I've check the tyres. Front made in Indonesia 2019, rear made in China 2021. I've reached out to my supplying dealer and he told me to contact BSA... of course he doesn't want to fit new tyres. BSA specifically exempt tyres from the warranty so I don't think I've got much room to move. Thanks for the point about the rubber mounts, I didn't know that, a few people have mentioned other, older bikes that had them. Thanks for the support. Cheers, Sean
Comprehensive review Sean. I used to follow your Meteor videos. Subscribed.
Thanks very much, really appreciate the comment and the sub of course.
Very good precis! Can't believe it only has 380 likes at this moment!
Thank you 😊 8
I found some of the comments strange, It can't be compared to the original, who wants to kick a bike off,for a start, now the price has dropped to £5500. And you're looking for a big single, It can be customised to suit the pilot. Take the rose goggles off,the old machines weren't that great,been riding 58years I know which one I would rather sling me leg over,..excellent review...might get one.
Thanks Neil, they are cheap at the moment indeed 👍
Excellent review! One thing I might have missed was handling and whether you would call it neutral or tippy or? Does it turn in smoothly with no quirky handling? But thank you for giving such an in depth review. I have a moto Guzzi v7 that isn’t working for me and I’m thinking this or RE super meteor.
Thank you for the comment Tom, the handling is very stable, it doesn't turn in that sharply and rides like a big Classic 350 with more power. With the BSA versus supermeteor I actually have a video on that exact topic called Bobs dilemma as it was a subscriber Bob who asked me. In short the SM650 you buy with your head and BSA with your heart...
Lots of useful info. Thanks for posting! 👍
Thank you Gordon, appreciate the comment. Sean
Thanks, great review, very comprehensive with detailed pros/cons. I plan to buy it soon. BTW, I like the jacket you are wearning, may I know the brand and model please. Also, which city is where this video is shot? Thank you.
Duro,Chen Shing, Kenda make durable cheap tires . I have bought many of these with no issues whatsoever.
That would be my approach too. Do you have a UK retailer for these types of tyre tho? I can't see them easily available.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist l am in the USA but check around. They are common tires .l get mine from Dennis Kirk.
Great review. I've been thinking of one of these and they are great value as you say, and seem like a nice bike. I've heard some horror stories of wiring harness failure around the headstock but obviously this is not commonplace. Friend, if you want to keep riding into old age, and I mention this because I care, I would advise trying to talk without using your hands so much and keep them on the 'bars! Great review otherwise and many thanks!
Very kind comment thank you. The headstock wiring has been changed as part of the 'health check/recall' program. I'll heed your advice thank you 😊
Good video. How do you find the pannier bags? I'm looking for some to fit on my Bonnerville SE. They might be a bit too big. Like the bike , I had one in 1958, put a copper megaphone on it while using it in North Wales where I lived for a few years ( Nant Gwynant, near Beddgelert ) (Snowdon area) Went through a few clutches as the gearing was a bit too high. Moved onto a T110 Triumph. They are not available in Australia. If they were I would probably buy one. Thanks again. Graham, Bundaberg, Queensland, Ausi...
I'm just curios. What type of fuel economy does Your BSA get ? ( In miles per gallon, please . Thank you. ) I did enjoy your review, and hope we can get BSA's in the States soon.
Hello, sorry I have not calculated this yet. I will look at my notes and add it to a future video...
What a comprehensive review
An excellent, totally impartial, review. Thank you.
Thank you Clive 👍🤝
Grear great great review!! Thank you!! Im waiting for GS to his the USA.
Thank you that's very kind 🙏
Love mine . Decat full exhaust 3500 on it . Revs far better than the stifling rubbish it comes with as std . Altered back light . Blocked spokes up with RTV run tubeless avons . Don't have problems with cutting out I think cos engine isn't stifled anymore .EML no bother cos I follow correct start up process . Also fitted 17t gear sprocket . Totally different bike now 27:13
Excellent and glad to hear you're doing well with the bike John. What is an RTV by the way? Nice you can run tubeless...
2:07 why are you changing position on the bike to take a turn instead of counter steer?
Thanks for the ŕeview. What do you think about handlebar position. Do you think bar risers would improve comfort ?
I have some aliexpress risers £8 on order as we speak. I've got short arms and I don't like the reach to the bars. I had risers on my last bike but unfortunately let it go with the riser on. Thanks, Sean
You had me searching autotrader for used prices, even though I have no intention of getting one :-) Good value used considering what their original price was. I agree with what you say about singles vs twins, but I guess it also depends on the firing order.
He does that to me most weeks with Peugeot 106's.....lol
One thing against it, the engine is over square 100mm×83mm so it doesnt quite have the character of something like a Meteor 350 for example. If I was to pick holes.
@bib 🤣
Fantastic review MM, excellent!
Agree that an owner's review is way preferable to an advertorial 'demo ride review.' Roger from 'Oldie n Goldie' fitted a mod plate to angle the clocks which I think looks much better.
Thanks FR, I did look at the 'clock mod' and it's very cool to be fair but at £160 you've really got to want it. I'm not sure which direction to go with it yet... could be something for the future for sure.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist yeah 160 quid is a bit steep.
Excellent detailed review!! And very honest.
What i feel is poor britishers have been made nothing but test mules
The bike after getting all its niggles settled, has launched in India
Hopefully, this thumper will see larger numbers here. Seeing the 500cc bullet is absent and is being dearly missed by many.
Edit: Be ready for some crazy troll action and syco fans in comments.
Thank you Urkarsh, appreciate the comment... 👍
Excellent review very well delivered, cheers
Thank you Richard. Appreciate the comment and kind feedback. Cheers, Sean
great review - i'd miss a screen fairing though.
Thanks Ian, appreciate that. My bike actually came with a Givi screen but I took it off. Was an aftermarket add on.
Great video as always. 😊
Thank you David, very much appreciated 👏 😀
What a lovely review!!!
Thank you very much 👍
Thanks for the info would you also consider the Dunlap tires are as good as the Avons
Hi Robert, I have to confess I'm no tyre expert. I know that my Conti SportAttack4s once fully warm allow me to grind my toe sliders 😂, but as far as the range of tyres out there I don't have enough experience to say. I like Continental as a brand I had the TKC70 rocks on my other bike and you could lean that over even with the blocky tread pattern. Never rode on dunlops! Thanks.
great review, did you ever get back to the pillion opinion??
Hi Ian, I didn't in the end. I'd been over and over this one and eventually we had to stop adding bits and just publish it. I can tell you tho it's the most comfortable bike Suzie has ever been pillion on. She really really likes it. Thanks.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I understand, great to know, thank you!
Bloody fantastic video! Beezers still not available in this country but you're sure making me want one... very bad!
Thanks Steve, well I did list the downside in great detail to be fair to anyone considering a purchase. Let's hope the Fuel map is well and truly updated by the time they reach your shores (lake shores😁). Thanks for the comment and feedback.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist as you said, many problems seem to be User-induced problems, that you take care of in pointing out, and for many an experienced long term rider should be either obvious or second nature..., or the new owners of such a beautiful bike, have watched and carefully listened to your "public service" videos and thereafter have a carefree ride and "thumping" good times doing so!
very good info , even though i don't own one ,,, the spares situation is a bit unforgivable ,, other than colours - there is only one model ;;;;; so sending over bits could not be simpler ,,,, you only need the same parts all the time , bike has settled in well and seems good value ;;
Thanks Simon, I did raise this with Fowlers who now manage all BSA parts supply and they said its simply a question of storage, there's not room for every part. Then again folwers support all brands or many of the main ones anyway. They do need to airfreight parts over from India though. 5 weeks is too long...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist yes , i know friends that have accounts with fowlers , as for space - they took it on so why hold up spares , if they can't manage let someone else have the franchise ;;;
@@simongilbert2704 I agree, they could at least have 2-3 mudguards of every colour and some indicators and brake levers in the country. People will brake those items over time.
Front tyre cracked in 5 years? My Metzler tyres are 15 y.o. on my BMW and they are fine. Definitely budget tyres there Sean.
I'm disappointed in the tyres Andrew yes 😔
For bumpy road riding, maybe on cobble stones, would you install YSS-type progressive damping emulators in the forks?
I will eventually change the fork springs to a progressive type yes, I do need to dismantle and find the spec of said springs first just need the time really... thanks 👍
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Maybe you should not.... The "emulators" that YSS sells provide *dual-rate damping* , not dual-rate (i.e. progressive) springs. In fact, YSS includes as a part of their kits single-rate springs to replace the OEM dual-rate springs. The "emulators" provide a high damping rate for slowly building compressions from small bumps, and a low damping rate for quickly building compressions from big bumps.
There are very enthusiastic reports on UA-cam about the handling improvement to Royal Enfield bikes, and I expect that YSS would eventually make kits for the BSA Gold Star as well. It does take some user knowledge of suspension damping, though, as the emulators have to be adjusted to make the transition between the 2 damping rates appropriate for the usual weight and loading of the bike.
P.S.the comment about air cooled bikes, spot on,my Harley in the summer, hotter than a tarts minge, makes you wonder how they manage in California!
Thank you Neil 😊
would there be any reason to buy a 60's Goldstar? its a bit cheaper for obvious reasons.
Not for me unless you are a life long fan I suppose...
j'ai acheté cette moto l'année dernière et j'en suis globalement content . Juste quelques problème de calage moteur au ralenti et aussi suspension arrière et avant sur mauvaises routes . je roule depuis 50 ans en BSA monocylindres et c'est ma 5e BSA ! quelle est l'adresse pour un pot inox décatalisé ?
I had to translate this using an algorithm but I think you asked about the decat.... this is from Hitchcock's and they ship yo France..
@@MindfulMotorcyclist thank you , i will look at this !
Great review buddy.
Bsa india get your act together!! I was really excited about bsa name coming back, looking forward to other names being revived, but looking unlikely now 😥
I believe the BSA name is trademarked in Inida and prevents them from selling under BSA in that region...
Someone commented the reviewer "road like his Grandmother " ..thats how she got to be a Grandmother!
What an amusing comment about the grandmother riding 🤣. Yes I ride slowly, stone me in the streets for that 😂
24:32... that turn resembles exactly to the turn in GTA vice city :D
Is it as reliable as a 106d?
Certainly not, I doubt it will do 40,000 miles without an oil change 😀
I had the same rubbish tyres on my Enfield. Very disappointing. A set of Bridgestone's transformed the handling. Eagerly awaiting the bikes here in the peoples republic of kalifornia.
Thanks for the comment. I've now got rid of the tyres and the handling is about the same... I'm now on Knobby off road tyres. At least you expect it to be vague on these 😃
Wo!mud guard!
Caps/ definitely a must.
I actually can't understand this 😂
We Don't Need No Stinking Mud Guards!
Great review ❤
Thank you Ravjeev
Why are people offloading their BSA with such low mileage - making me think these bikes are not liked in a very short time.
Hi Ian, thanks for the comment. The initial reliability problems sometimes were too much and some people traded in, or I suppose like the Interceptor 650 these are Sunday bikes and don't get ridden a lot. You can find 4 year old RE 650s with 5k miles on them. You can also find the supermeteor with 1200 miles. I think it's the type of bike plus the awful British weather people just don't ride them. That would be my guess.
Perfect bike to take in the lovely scenery, 👍🏍🙂🌞
I couldn't agree more, I also have the Daytona as you might have seen on here. That wouldn't be the same at all. It's also nice to hop on hop off if you just need to pop to a bakery or the like. They also prioritise 'moto' parking over here which is so smart and handy. Thanks for the comment Kenneth. 👍
You're riding it like my grandmother would
😂😂
Love from India Brother
Thank you 😊
@@MindfulMotorcyclistkeep us updated & any after market update about centre stand
I saw one in the showroom next to a Meteor and to be honest the Meteor looked way better - Some bits like the fake barrel pushrod tube and plastic cowl on the fuel injector looked so cheap and the pedals looked like they were off a tractor - the radiator looked all misplaced
BSA is very much a bike you buy with your heart not your head. Yes up close the Meteor is better (I've owned both), in particular RE paint is a very high quality finish full of lustre and durable. You buy a BSA because it's a BSA, it's proportions/look and it's a big single...
All modern motorcycles should have hydraulic valve adjustment and belt drive. Then all you have to do is change the fluids and filter.
BSA is shims which is a pain I admit...
Great review. The funny thing is that even if the parts are coming from India, the actual bike isn't launched yet in India.
Indian company does not launch an India made bike in India. Madness.
Launched today actually... had some legal hurdles to overcome, all done now.
Landscape looks great....Where's this?@@MindfulMotorcyclist
Where did you get the fender extender from MM? Thanks
Hi David, sorry for the delayed reply here. This was on the bike when I bought it but I think it's a generic one not a BSA one. It's secured with a little plastic screw that goes through a hole someone has drilled in the Mudguard. It's a adapted mod for sure.
Should have crash bars on the bike. No center stand for chain drive is ridiculous. Needed for chain maintenance no questions. Poor thinking 🤔
Yes centre stand is a big omission.
I bought a pre-registered 'Legacy Edition' with 16 miles on the clock for £6299, that is £1000 less than a new one.
That's what I'm talking about! Well done that man. Great deal and lovely bike, I'd have a legacy if not green it's second favourite. Thanks.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thanks for your reply, my Gold Star has BSA in it's registration mark, that is worth few quid alone. I have already installed, a pair of Girling shrouded rear shocks, a TEC tail tidy, a classic style horn, drop handlebars, Stadium stainless bar end mirrors, the Moore Speed Gold Star engine badges like you have and a TEC short baffle.
Tut tut tut How many STOP junctions did you not actually stop at 😮😂 I did a quick Autotrader search and yes these are starting to come to the second hand market now, which is great, because as I said to a biker mate recently, imagine I've just upgraded from a 125 only to find on a new but bigger bike I have to ride it gently to run it in 😮 Nah, forget that, I'd buy second hand, already run in, first services carried out, any niggles hopefully already attended to and money saved. I prefer the Highland green colour too, and further down the line you could easily get the tank and guards resprayed to a different heritage colour if so wished. Plus due to the nature of the bike, it probably wouldn't have been thrashed. Which brings me to a question, how is it on dual carriageways or motorways at higher sustained speed?
Great overall owner's honest review, it's probably the better type of reviews out there, rather than one based on limited time as a demo.
Haha, yes I admit not got to grips with the local roads yet. They said if this was the UK 10+ people would have commented. It seemed to go under the radar 😂. Oh yes 100%, much as they would hate to hear this don't buy the brand new bike, nearly new all the way. Someone else has done the boring running in, paid for a £200 oil change but a few things to add when you speak to your mate. The previous owner has also paid the VAT and thus taken the initial depreciation, paid £40-100 delivery (avoidable to be fair if you collect it), they've paid £150-300 on the road charges and if you're lucky he's also splashed out on the accessories catalogue (I had a fender extender, screen and a rear rack on mine). The chap rode it only for 227 miles and in the dry, you still get the warranty and dealer suppoer. Dealers do seem to be aware of this temptation however and nearly new bikes are around 300-500 off new. I suspect buying nearly new from someone private who's had a change of heart or circumstance would yield really big savings. This is coming from someone who bought the Meteor 350 and the Voge 500DSX new! On motorways this bike will do 80 easily (it will do 100+) but it's a naked so it's a bit blowy at 70mph with wind blast. Not that fun 😕. Cheers, Sean
Great full review.
Thanks Nick, appreciate the comment.
Very nice review.
Thank you MK, really appreciate that.
Whats the mileage of this bike?
Mine is now on 2500 miles
Owner reviews are more honest. They are more truthful and mention bad points as well. Half the price of a real BSA Gold 🪙 Star ⭐,real thing won't lose value. Plastic parts won't hold up over time.
7:44 this bike is not developed in India, it's not even launched here in India
Ok it's getting launching coming week
I was just looking at the Benneli 702 adv bike,, it sells for 6900,,but comes with all the luggage ,,, compare that to the BSA which does not even come with a center stand..How Sean can say its good value I do,nt know !!!
Last bike was a Voge500DSX, £5.6k full luggage and all day comfort with weather protection. You can get them for £4k now. I felt it didn't have any character in the end so went BSA instead...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist OK Sean I can,t blame you for that,, I bought a Honda NC700 when they first came out,, talk about souless bike ,, I nearly slashed my wrists... but just cos its got a anme on the tank we know,,does not always make a great deal..anyway I comming down to spain in a few weeeks to sort you out,,,you need educating,,, cheers
What's the top speed of this bike
Approx 105mph ive never been that fast however...
Very nice review, thanks and ride sfe
Thank you that's a nice comment and appreciated 👏