@@DavidOnTheeYT You've gotta stop, she has no potential 😹😹😹The fact that Diary compared her to Jake and other influencers is hilarious. Punching is not boxing and just because you hit a pad doesn't mean you can hit someone who is moving their head and punching back.
@@lavaaarexactly, and to add to that, she didn't have much of a jab and she doesn't understand distance. To beat Elle's aggression, she needed to establish her jab, move her feet, keep her distance, and build off the jab. She couldn't do any of those things effectively
@@ethanw3908 She wasn't going to beat Elle by not trying to engage with Elle and throwing pitty patty Jabs. She was going to have to interact with Elle not only by throwing a jab but transitioning her weight. Throwing a jab without moving your head is asking for you to get countered. And she would've needed a probing Jab not, a stepping jab as that is a much more committed jab when you step on the line. But it's much more complicated then saying, oh just keep your distance and jab. People who think like that don't get far in the sport. Faith thought the same way but you can't just run all night, you'll have to eventually interact with your opponent.
@@lavaaar I’m not saying she had to throw pitter patter jabs, but she needed to use her jab as a defensive weapon to break her opponent’s rhythm like outboxers like Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Devin Haney, Erislandy Lara, etc., who were known for controlling the fight on their backfoot. The key is to control the fight by being the ring general. When fighting on the backfoot, this means you have to use your footwork to initiate backward motion by moving back when the aggressor isn’t even pressing forward in order to get them to follow you around the ring. You aren’t “running,” but you are forcing them to react off your movements and follow you around, which means you’re the one controlling the fight by making them fight your fight. That’s exactly what Leonard did to Hagler, and what Erislandy Lara does to almost all his opponents. They constantly back up and use lateral movement, and they’re able to make their opponent walk right into one of their shots by catching them coming in. This is what Ali was known for-floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee, which is how all outboxers (or pure boxers, whatever you want to call it) fight-they don’t engage often, but they use movement to confuse and frustrate their opponent, and they strike when they see an opening when the aggressor makes a mistake. The better your movement is defensively, the more likely it is that they’ll make a mistake. To your other point, you don’t necessarily have to move your head when you throw a jab (although it is, in general, a good habit to constantly move your head off the centerline) if you can time the jab correctly, which means finding a way to land it before your opponent has a chance to even react to it. This can be done in a lot of ways: feinting to disguise your offense, throwing in different cadences, etc., but ultimately it depends on your instinctive ability to time your opponent by having a good sense of how they move and where they move, which is your sense of range and timing. You develop your sense of range and timing by hitting the heavybag and sparring. That’s why our coach always has us hit a heavybag when it swings, so that we can develop an instinctive sense of range and timing for moving objects. If your opponent is able to counter your jab, it means that you didn’t set the shot up well in the first place by distracting your opponent with something like a feint, which is how they were able to read your movements and react in time to dodge and counter it because you were too predictable. Or you just weren’t quick enough, which is another factor. Everytime the jab lands, your opponent has to reset and find a new way to initiate their offense. This is why the jab is not only an effective defensive strategy, but it gives you the chance to initiate your own offense. Not to mention, offensively speaking, it’s also the best punch to set up your combinations and power shots. The jab is the most important punch in boxing because it sets up your shots and it is your range finder. I’m not saying that Faith HAD to fight like a defensively minded outboxer, but I think it would be ideal in this case because she is taller and would benefit by using her reach to her advantage, which in the fight means mainly keeping Elle on the outside with jabs and straight punches while backing up to counter her aggression. Bro if you read all this tho you’re an actual legend, screw everything else lmfao 🤣
Wow she actually looks good. I did white collar boxing with beginners like her. They were already heavily into fitness because they were fitness IG models. They all seemed to really maintain fundamentals. They listened really well. Faye seems to be doing the same. She might win.
Her match with Elle she did not use reach and jab advantage and fight smart with counter punches, she tried to brawl inside and she lost. Elle has skills and power, knocked her down then tkoed her.
I’m sorry I have to disagree with this guy simply because coaches tell men this all the time. Avoid women and do what you have to do but avoid the temptation. He told her the same thing and I don’t find that specific part inappropriate.
No potential at all. Pads don't punch back, people actually do. She was literally running away from Elle then complained when she was about to get knocked out😹😹😹
LOL This did NOT age well at all. Everything was the opposite of what you said. Fucking social media makes a mockery of everything. It's such a doomed downhill spiral.
She has no potential.... she got hit and got mad. Fighting mad in a technical war is suicide. She threw some decent punches and then some not so decent punches. She has a great straight right set up off the left jab. But outside of that. No hooks, uppercuts, or body shots. She did damage. If she would have stuck to her game plan and kept distance with those jabs.
the fight was indeed a reckless brawl 💀
This aged really badly 😂
Really did hahah
@@TheFightDiaryin her defense I mean I guess she got nervous? Hahaha but damn that fight sucked
Aged like already expired milk
Hahaha
Het career was lasted shorter than me in bed💀💀
I know this comment is a year old but mentioning your sexual performance in bed is crazy.
Well, this aged horribly 🤦♂️
she still has potential, most people after the pressure elle applied would fold just like her for their first fight at that magnitude, fair play elle
@@DavidOnTheeYT You've gotta stop, she has no potential 😹😹😹The fact that Diary compared her to Jake and other influencers is hilarious.
Punching is not boxing and just because you hit a pad doesn't mean you can hit someone who is moving their head and punching back.
@@lavaaarexactly, and to add to that, she didn't have much of a jab and she doesn't understand distance. To beat Elle's aggression, she needed to establish her jab, move her feet, keep her distance, and build off the jab. She couldn't do any of those things effectively
@@ethanw3908 She wasn't going to beat Elle by not trying to engage with Elle and throwing pitty patty Jabs. She was going to have to interact with Elle not only by throwing a jab but transitioning her weight. Throwing a jab without moving your head is asking for you to get countered.
And she would've needed a probing Jab not, a stepping jab as that is a much more committed jab when you step on the line.
But it's much more complicated then saying, oh just keep your distance and jab. People who think like that don't get far in the sport. Faith thought the same way but you can't just run all night, you'll have to eventually interact with your opponent.
@@lavaaar I’m not saying she had to throw pitter patter jabs, but she needed to use her jab as a defensive weapon to break her opponent’s rhythm like outboxers like Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Devin Haney, Erislandy Lara, etc., who were known for controlling the fight on their backfoot. The key is to control the fight by being the ring general. When fighting on the backfoot, this means you have to use your footwork to initiate backward motion by moving back when the aggressor isn’t even pressing forward in order to get them to follow you around the ring. You aren’t “running,” but you are forcing them to react off your movements and follow you around, which means you’re the one controlling the fight by making them fight your fight.
That’s exactly what Leonard did to Hagler, and what Erislandy Lara does to almost all his opponents. They constantly back up and use lateral movement, and they’re able to make their opponent walk right into one of their shots by catching them coming in. This is what Ali was known for-floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee, which is how all outboxers (or pure boxers, whatever you want to call it) fight-they don’t engage often, but they use movement to confuse and frustrate their opponent, and they strike when they see an opening when the aggressor makes a mistake. The better your movement is defensively, the more likely it is that they’ll make a mistake.
To your other point, you don’t necessarily have to move your head when you throw a jab (although it is, in general, a good habit to constantly move your head off the centerline) if you can time the jab correctly, which means finding a way to land it before your opponent has a chance to even react to it. This can be done in a lot of ways: feinting to disguise your offense, throwing in different cadences, etc., but ultimately it depends on your instinctive ability to time your opponent by having a good sense of how they move and where they move, which is your sense of range and timing. You develop your sense of range and timing by hitting the heavybag and sparring. That’s why our coach always has us hit a heavybag when it swings, so that we can develop an instinctive sense of range and timing for moving objects. If your opponent is able to counter your jab, it means that you didn’t set the shot up well in the first place by distracting your opponent with something like a feint, which is how they were able to read your movements and react in time to dodge and counter it because you were too predictable. Or you just weren’t quick enough, which is another factor.
Everytime the jab lands, your opponent has to reset and find a new way to initiate their offense. This is why the jab is not only an effective defensive strategy, but it gives you the chance to initiate your own offense. Not to mention, offensively speaking, it’s also the best punch to set up your combinations and power shots. The jab is the most important punch in boxing because it sets up your shots and it is your range finder.
I’m not saying that Faith HAD to fight like a defensively minded outboxer, but I think it would be ideal in this case because she is taller and would benefit by using her reach to her advantage, which in the fight means mainly keeping Elle on the outside with jabs and straight punches while backing up to counter her aggression.
Bro if you read all this tho you’re an actual legend, screw everything else lmfao 🤣
As a pugilist myself I love how invested she is into this sport
Like Tyson said you can a plan until you get punched in the face
Wow she actually looks good. I did white collar boxing with beginners like her. They were already heavily into fitness because they were fitness IG models. They all seemed to really maintain fundamentals. They listened really well. Faye seems to be doing the same. She might win.
Her match with Elle she did not use reach and jab advantage and fight smart with counter punches, she tried to brawl inside and she lost. Elle has skills and power, knocked her down then tkoed her.
What beat you used in the background I know it’s Mo
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face-Mike Tyson
didn't work out so well did it "expert"
Betto Ortega vs. Faith Ordway
Boxing 🥊 Challenge face to face?
Anyone can look like a champion on the pads
Ouch.
I don’t think she trained legs and translating the power to her hands enough, her legs we gone in the first 30 seconds lol
XD
I’m sorry I have to disagree with this guy simply because coaches tell men this all the time. Avoid women and do what you have to do but avoid the temptation. He told her the same thing and I don’t find that specific part inappropriate.
Dude said heavy with the jab 😹😹😹She doesn't have a jab and can't move her head. It's sad that these casuals actually think that she can box.
Need to work on the center line of her jab.
The jab is what controls the fight, so you need to know how to use it properly
she only trained ruching up. As a tall girl its not optimal
No potential at all. Pads don't punch back, people actually do. She was literally running away from Elle then complained when she was about to get knocked out😹😹😹
LOL This did NOT age well at all. Everything was the opposite of what you said. Fucking social media makes a mockery of everything. It's such a doomed downhill spiral.
Anyone can look good on pads. Additionally like mile Tyson said you have a plan till you get punched in the face
She looked good until the match
This the weird coach?
She ain't did none of this shit
She has no potential.... she got hit and got mad. Fighting mad in a technical war is suicide. She threw some decent punches and then some not so decent punches. She has a great straight right set up off the left jab. But outside of that. No hooks, uppercuts, or body shots. She did damage. If she would have stuck to her game plan and kept distance with those jabs.
She got knocked out cold by a womanlet