All these Dinosaurs make the world of so much more diverse, but seeing the Froghemoth Pathfinder is just something else. CR 13 and near 300 HP, that thing is IMMENSE. I'd love to have it as a boss monster in my campaign.
Demitridon is a Synapsid thats distantly related to Mammals, not a Reptile, but I wouldn't be surprised if Paizo made a goof with the classification, many still do.
So fun fact for dms running lets say ....predatory dinosaurs. Especially smart, social ones (like deinonychus perhaps). They discovered the syrinx structure in stegasorids, which is the vocal apparatus that birds have that lets them chirp and squawk....and mimic human speech. And the fact that stegos had it and birds also do, means its pretty likley that all did. So picture being hunted in tall grass and hearing your party member scream for help. then the scream is repeated to your left, and right....then twice....behind you.
Happy New Year, hope your vacation went well, and nice to see you back at it. This video is a great starting point for strategies like Tame Animal, Speak With Animals, and Animal Growth. Being able to train (or at least cooperate with) giant hippos, felines, dinosaurs or even Rocs(!!) sure helps explain how "uncivilized", primal cultures/beliefs are able to compete with more technological or arcane competitors. I'm guessing if my character can convince a woolly mammoth that a Chelaxian knight is a threat then the fact that they're wearing plate armor just means they pop like a walnut instead of an apple when stomped on. I'm also now really looking forward to your exploration of the Orvian Vaults and their creator species as that was completely new information and the concept sounds fascinating.
Yeah the Xiomorns and the Orvian vaults are such a cool corner of lore in Pathfinder, that I've been saving them. I actually have a trio of videos planned in the early part of this year that will probably go something like Religion(maybe?) Xiomorns -> Creature Feature: Dungeon Denizens -> Region Deep Dive: The Darklands. Should be a lot of fun.
As an avid paleonerd, one: thank you; and two: dinosaur is actually a terrible name, and the current consensus among paleontologists isn't that birds evolved from dinosaurs, but the frankly mindshattering revelation that birds ARE dinosaurs, they just happened to be the only ones that survive the extinction event. Yes, that crow or bluejay that frequents your backyard is a living, breathing dinosaur. This is a very recent development, and like many dinosaurs being feathered, will probably take a while before it becomes common knowlwdge, so I absolutely don't fault you for not knowing this. And yes, it came as a shock to me too.
You also could say that birds evolved from dinosaurs in the same manner that a t-rex evolved from dinosaurs (they don't become less dinosaur with time). And the lineage of birds are even older than the t-rex.
Didn't think this would be a topic you'd share with us, but it is a pleasant surprise, as well as a great inspiration for my campaign. We'll soon be heading into the Realm of the Mammonth Lords - guess now I should add more big critters other than large mammals! Thanks for the video as always!
Amazing! A new video already. Just in time to get me into the mood for the start of our Kingmaker campaign this evening. Thanks a lot, always joy to watch your videos.
Ever since I played Skyrim back when it first came out and came across those Mammoths I've been obsessed with the non-dinosaur megafauna. Pathfinder using them so often is something I love about the setting and my homebrew world follows the example witj plenty of megafauna.
I always loved the idea of fantasy including prehistoric animals , I just think its such a great mix I am also currently writing a world where dinosaurs and dragons had a war for millions of years and the funniest thing about this world is that I literally made up an evolution for some fantasy creatures like orcs who in my world are descendants of gorgonopsids . And the great thing I realised while writing is that inspiration comes from EVERYWHERE tI got the whole idea for the world from a video about dinotopia and I even have some aspects that are inspired by pacific rim
In 1e, the Dire Bat was actually the most affordable flying mount out there. I know this is a Pathfinder lore channel, but in my homebrew, I wound of fluffing them as massive flying foxes.
A dimetrodon is not closely related to dinosaurs in any respect they are closer to humans and other mammals as they are of the lineage that gave rise to us.
I may have cheered out loud (in the the break room at work no less) when I saw this video. I love prehistoric animals and Pathfinder has an amazing variety! Side note, does anyone else see some strong parallels between the Vaults of Orv and Edger Rice Burroughs “Pellucidar”?
Absolutely. Both Edger Rice Burroughs "At the Earth's Core" and related books and Jules Verne's "Journey to the Center of the Earth" are both pretty sound source material for the concept of Orv.
Yea, like it's not even remotely close to a dinosaur. It's more closely related to a Human than to a Spinosaurus. So maybe it would be a better fit in the "mammal megafauna" with the cave bear and Smilodon, even if it comes from an entirely more remote time.
TIL that Dinotopia is basically a canon event on Golarion. Though I wonder how this different Megafauna came to live alongside each other. For example, Dimetrodon was, as far as I can remember, long extinct before even the first dinosaurs showed up, and then the same with the dinos before giant mammals appeared. Did the dinos, and maybe early giant mammals, get "dinotopia-d", while later ones, like mammoths and the stereotypical Ice Age creatures, evolved during the dark times, after the Meteor that killed the Azlanti? Or did they, like, just evolve one after another, and no one cared to inform them, that they should have gone extinct before the new batch arrives? I think, the Image for the Moa is actually a Terrorbird. So what about other prehistoric creatures? Like boar-croc, or that hooved, galloping land crocodile? Or the infamous Vulgaris Magistralis? Is he still around? Does he still cook on een werkende vulkaan? Does he still ride op een mammoet in het rond, en op zondag op een mastodont? XD
Our ancestors spent thousands of years trying to tame the world around them. And now we live in a world just dreaming about that lost world. The wild world they had to live in for 300,000 years. I would lose it watching Mammoths and Wholly Rhinos going by.
8:55 Fun fact for Jurassic Park fans: what we see in the movies are actually deinonychuses, not velociraptors! And as always, thanks for sharing, MythKeeper!
@@TheMythkeeper All good 👍 If my players ever roll high on a knowledge check they get to listen to one of your deep dives on it. Thank you for everything you do!
I'm surprised you'd bring up the froghemoth. Considering they're not animals, but abberous extraterrestrial creatures that originally adapted to a volcanic environment.
I'll do a deeper dive of these as creature features eventually, but in the meantime make sure you check out my Inner Sphere: Elemental Planes video, which has an overall guide to the elemental planes.
Loved the Video, was a bit distracting though when you were speaking about Moa your showed a picture of a Terror Bird or Phorusrhacid instead. Moa come from New Zealand and survived up until Human Contact over several centuries ago, while Terror Birds are long extinct From the South America that were around the same time as the giant sloths.
Where does the large map of the Inner Sea region come that you used in the intro? I have been trying to find a high quality map like that for a really long time
I laughed too hard at the plesiosaur section because you just used the same image recolored instead of actual images of the animals. That was hilarious. As a prehistoric life nerd I will hold back the insatiable urge to correct every single error in this video.
Chalicotherium are closer to horses and rhinos than sloths because it has to do with how they are born, Chalicotherium also would be most like Earth's giant pandas they when exstics as Earth became even more grass step dominated. they would live very similar to the grounds sloth similar nich and all. sloths are slower to armadillos and anteaters the last parts of strange batch live birthing mammals unrelated to the the other lineage
@@TheMythkeeper that is correct. They convergently evolved to fill the same niche. The picture you showed was also of a groundsloth and not a calicothere.
Megafauna are so weird and cool, and I love them. I like that Pathfinder actually gave a reason for why dinosaurs still exist in their world. Mystara kind of has a reason with “aka shoved species into the Hollow World and teleported them to the 9th planet in the solar system to save them,” but that doesn’t explain how or why there’s still mammoths and smilodons on the surface of Mystara. And Eberron, which is my favorite DND world . . . Doesn’t seem to have a reason for why dinosaurs are wondering around and serving as mounts for Halflings.
Dinosaurs, magic, ancient Egypt and highly advanced alien technology. Golarion has a little bit of everything and I absolutely love it.
Players, meet the kitchen sink. ;-)
...and the baby remains in the bath💧water.
It's the pseudo Egypt that makes me tempted to try out Pathfinder before Starfinder.
😂 you can survive demonic invasions, an alien assault and traverse ancient ruins just to get devoured by dinosaurs. ❤❤❤
And Kaiju
I'm always here for dinosaurs. 🦕🦖
Rawr!
Same!
same
Megafauna: the reason wizards should never mock a druid. Thanks for the video.
All these Dinosaurs make the world of so much more diverse, but seeing the Froghemoth Pathfinder is just something else. CR 13 and near 300 HP, that thing is IMMENSE. I'd love to have it as a boss monster in my campaign.
Its a big amphibian for sure!
A few of those could MAKE the dinosaurs extinct on Golarion.
Demitridon is a Synapsid thats distantly related to Mammals, not a Reptile, but I wouldn't be surprised if Paizo made a goof with the classification, many still do.
So fun fact for dms running lets say ....predatory dinosaurs. Especially smart, social ones (like deinonychus perhaps). They discovered the syrinx structure in stegasorids, which is the vocal apparatus that birds have that lets them chirp and squawk....and mimic human speech. And the fact that stegos had it and birds also do, means its pretty likley that all did. So picture being hunted in tall grass and hearing your party member scream for help. then the scream is repeated to your left, and right....then twice....behind you.
Haha! That's awesome
or your mount starts to take the piss out of you.
@@MusMasiparrot time!
I’m a huge enthusiast on Dinosaurs and Dragons because they have a really gigantic history when it comes to fossil and influences.
Dinosaurs? I’m in. And a little tease about a Darklands deep dive? Hell yes, thank you again for your work. It’s appreciated.
This looks like a documentary in the one you "spared no expense". Awsome work like allways!
Haha! Thank you!
Happy New Year, hope your vacation went well, and nice to see you back at it. This video is a great starting point for strategies like Tame Animal, Speak With Animals, and Animal Growth. Being able to train (or at least cooperate with) giant hippos, felines, dinosaurs or even Rocs(!!) sure helps explain how "uncivilized", primal cultures/beliefs are able to compete with more technological or arcane competitors. I'm guessing if my character can convince a woolly mammoth that a Chelaxian knight is a threat then the fact that they're wearing plate armor just means they pop like a walnut instead of an apple when stomped on. I'm also now really looking forward to your exploration of the Orvian Vaults and their creator species as that was completely new information and the concept sounds fascinating.
Yeah the Xiomorns and the Orvian vaults are such a cool corner of lore in Pathfinder, that I've been saving them. I actually have a trio of videos planned in the early part of this year that will probably go something like Religion(maybe?) Xiomorns -> Creature Feature: Dungeon Denizens -> Region Deep Dive: The Darklands. Should be a lot of fun.
As an avid paleonerd, one: thank you; and two: dinosaur is actually a terrible name, and the current consensus among paleontologists isn't that birds evolved from dinosaurs, but the frankly mindshattering revelation that birds ARE dinosaurs, they just happened to be the only ones that survive the extinction event. Yes, that crow or bluejay that frequents your backyard is a living, breathing dinosaur.
This is a very recent development, and like many dinosaurs being feathered, will probably take a while before it becomes common knowlwdge, so I absolutely don't fault you for not knowing this. And yes, it came as a shock to me too.
Thanks for sharing! Yeah that's very cool
You also could say that birds evolved from dinosaurs in the same manner that a t-rex evolved from dinosaurs (they don't become less dinosaur with time). And the lineage of birds are even older than the t-rex.
Didn't think this would be a topic you'd share with us, but it is a pleasant surprise, as well as a great inspiration for my campaign. We'll soon be heading into the Realm of the Mammonth Lords - guess now I should add more big critters other than large mammals! Thanks for the video as always!
They're gonna be ambushed by a pack of snow-white wooly dimetrodons...cutting through the avalanche snow with their back sails :)
Hahaha! Yes, that's awesome. Like snow-sharks.
It's always a good day when i find you uploaded a new video. Thank you
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Amazing! A new video already. Just in time to get me into the mood for the start of our Kingmaker campaign this evening. Thanks a lot, always joy to watch your videos.
Nice! Also, there's plenty of opportunity to use some big animals in Kingmaker. Hope this is a fun one for you.
Ever since I played Skyrim back when it first came out and came across those Mammoths I've been obsessed with the non-dinosaur megafauna. Pathfinder using them so often is something I love about the setting and my homebrew world follows the example witj plenty of megafauna.
I agree aurochs and megaloceri for the win!
binging your videos while playing through WotR again. thank you very much!
Haha! Awesome, thank you!
I liked your dinosaur division
Thank you! Surprisingly fun to write this one
Fantastic video as always. Looking forward to the vault builders and how they tie emerald spire.
Realm of Mammoth Lords to the Shackles: Oh no you don’t!
I always loved the idea of fantasy including prehistoric animals , I just think its such a great mix I am also currently writing a world where dinosaurs and dragons had a war for millions of years and the funniest thing about this world is that I literally made up an evolution for some fantasy creatures like orcs who in my world are descendants of gorgonopsids . And the great thing I realised while writing is that inspiration comes from EVERYWHERE tI got the whole idea for the world from a video about dinotopia and I even have some aspects that are inspired by pacific rim
In 1e, the Dire Bat was actually the most affordable flying mount out there. I know this is a Pathfinder lore channel, but in my homebrew, I wound of fluffing them as massive flying foxes.
Hah! I like this
A dimetrodon is not closely related to dinosaurs in any respect they are closer to humans and other mammals as they are of the lineage that gave rise to us.
honestly im surprised that pathfinder included the moa but not poukai/the haast eagle, which is the moas' main predator
Pretty random, I agree
Look forward to that vault of Orf (sp?) video, as that sounds like it could be really cool lore.
Xiomorns & the Vaults of Orv are definitely coming on the not too distant future.
The Serpent Skull adventure path has many dinosaurs! I proudly GM it this period.)
I've also run Serpent's Skull in the past and its a great AP. You're in for some fun.
I may have cheered out loud (in the the break room at work no less) when I saw this video. I love prehistoric animals and Pathfinder has an amazing variety!
Side note, does anyone else see some strong parallels between the Vaults of Orv and Edger Rice Burroughs “Pellucidar”?
Absolutely. Both Edger Rice Burroughs "At the Earth's Core" and related books and Jules Verne's "Journey to the Center of the Earth" are both pretty sound source material for the concept of Orv.
Dimetrodon is a protomammal or stem mammal. I hope they fix this.
I do call out that this is not technically a dino!
@@TheMythkeeper yup, was enough for me!
Yea, like it's not even remotely close to a dinosaur. It's more closely related to a Human than to a Spinosaurus. So maybe it would be a better fit in the "mammal megafauna" with the cave bear and Smilodon, even if it comes from an entirely more remote time.
TIL that Dinotopia is basically a canon event on Golarion.
Though I wonder how this different Megafauna came to live alongside each other. For example, Dimetrodon was, as far as I can remember, long extinct before even the first dinosaurs showed up, and then the same with the dinos before giant mammals appeared.
Did the dinos, and maybe early giant mammals, get "dinotopia-d", while later ones, like mammoths and the stereotypical Ice Age creatures, evolved during the dark times, after the Meteor that killed the Azlanti? Or did they, like, just evolve one after another, and no one cared to inform them, that they should have gone extinct before the new batch arrives?
I think, the Image for the Moa is actually a Terrorbird.
So what about other prehistoric creatures? Like boar-croc, or that hooved, galloping land crocodile?
Or the infamous Vulgaris Magistralis? Is he still around? Does he still cook on een werkende vulkaan? Does he still ride op een mammoet in het rond, en op zondag op een mastodont? XD
I think it’s the one where no one cared to inform them they should be extinct 😆
Oversized Bison & Buffalo
Dire-Honey Badger
Dire Honey Badger sounds deadly
Here be giants
Talk about the drow of Pathfinder!!
Soon ;-)
@@TheMythkeeper ❤️
Our ancestors spent thousands of years trying to tame the world around them. And now we live in a world just dreaming about that lost world. The wild world they had to live in for 300,000 years. I would lose it watching Mammoths and Wholly Rhinos going by.
Fun fact, Dimetrodon is actually more closely related to modern humans than it is to dinosaurs.
Fun fact not all megafauna are extinct. The North American Moose is considered North Americas last Megafauna. They are horrifying.
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8:55 Fun fact for Jurassic Park fans: what we see in the movies are actually deinonychuses, not velociraptors!
And as always, thanks for sharing, MythKeeper!
Funnier fact: they were too big even for a Deinonychus, for that dinosaur was 1,50m (4'11") tall at best while the JP raptors towered over humans.
Yes!
Dinos!
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Small criticisms aside, I want a whooly rhino.
FROGHEMOTH.
Can't go wrong with a big frog!
I once likened my girlfriend to my favourite variety of megafauna. She took the compliment surprisingly badly.
When you mentioned Stegosaurus I was hoping you would mention the "Thagomizer" on its tail (names after the Farside comics)
Haha! Good reference, sorry I missed that ;-)
@@TheMythkeeper All good 👍 If my players ever roll high on a knowledge check they get to listen to one of your deep dives on it. Thank you for everything you do!
As an aspiring paleontologist, this video is MY JAM
Haha! Awesome! This was weirdly fun to write up too.
Nice video thanks
I'm surprised you'd bring up the froghemoth. Considering they're not animals, but abberous extraterrestrial creatures that originally adapted to a volcanic environment.
Well they have animal-like intelligence (INT score 2) and they're basically big frogs, so I figured this might be a good place to discuss them.
Please do the Elementals of Pathfinder such common elementals (earth, water, fire, air), gargoyle, genies, salamander and Phoenix.
I'll do a deeper dive of these as creature features eventually, but in the meantime make sure you check out my Inner Sphere: Elemental Planes video, which has an overall guide to the elemental planes.
Loved the Video, was a bit distracting though when you were speaking about Moa your showed a picture of a Terror Bird or Phorusrhacid instead. Moa come from New Zealand and survived up until Human Contact over several centuries ago, while Terror Birds are long extinct From the South America that were around the same time as the giant sloths.
Sorry about that. I think I just liked the art on the bird eating the horse, but that's a good pointer.
@@TheMythkeeper yeah it is cool art, Its eating an American Mini horse, they went extinct as well.
Where does the large map of the Inner Sea region come that you used in the intro? I have been trying to find a high quality map like that for a really long time
Its the Rob McCaleb high-res one. You'll have to dig around to find it.
I laughed too hard at the plesiosaur section because you just used the same image recolored instead of actual images of the animals. That was hilarious.
As a prehistoric life nerd I will hold back the insatiable urge to correct every single error in this video.
Thank you! Thank you!
Chalicotherium are closer to horses and rhinos than sloths because it has to do with how they are born, Chalicotherium also would be most like Earth's giant pandas they when exstics as Earth became even more grass step dominated.
they would live very similar to the grounds sloth similar nich and all.
sloths are slower to armadillos and anteaters the last parts of strange batch live birthing mammals unrelated to the the other lineage
A calicotherium is closely related to a horse noth giant ground shloths
Maybe it just looks like a sloth 😅
@@TheMythkeeper that is correct. They convergently evolved to fill the same niche. The picture you showed was also of a groundsloth and not a calicothere.
What do you have on Qidar?
I think you mean Qadira? I haven't done that video yet! But its not too far away now.
Hehe big dino
Thanks for the great, informative vid and can't for more
Glad you enjoyed it
Megafauna are so weird and cool, and I love them.
I like that Pathfinder actually gave a reason for why dinosaurs still exist in their world. Mystara kind of has a reason with “aka shoved species into the Hollow World and teleported them to the 9th planet in the solar system to save them,” but that doesn’t explain how or why there’s still mammoths and smilodons on the surface of Mystara. And Eberron, which is my favorite DND world . . . Doesn’t seem to have a reason for why dinosaurs are wondering around and serving as mounts for Halflings.
The real reason tho: because it's cool!
Can the reason be that there was no global scale mass extinction? Golarian needs an explaination because they had earth fall.
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Positive reply ;-)
was this video just a trick to make us learn more about dinosaurs?
Yes! Please take all the dino facts!
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