This program is going to change the rog ally scene so much. Ive only tested with only 6 cores and the gpu seems to ramp up a bit better in starfield. Pretty happy so far :)
Thanks for sharing. This is gonna be fun to mess around with to get the most out of the ROG Ally. Such a great handheld. This is really gonna make it my go to handheld.
You might want to mention that in Armory Crate to set AC to the windows power management option. If you don't AC and UTU will fight over power management.
In my country pre-order start 27 june, and i can't wait to get mine on september.. But why the long wait.. Watching your video will prep me well when i get my hands on
This is sick. Just the RivaTuner quick access is worth it alone as I'm not really happy with Asus' own FPS limiter since it doesn't function unless it's set before you open a game.
Might also be worth mentioning that the fps limiter only works for exclusive full screen, if the game only supports fullscreen (windowed) you’re out of luck
Love the videos, been on the channel since 2017 for the early launch box days. Can you do an ULTIMATE setup with a custom windows like Tiny or Ghost(prefer ghost lol), handheld control panel, utu and big box? I think that would apply to ALL handhelds and would really give people who aren't PC savvy a step by step guide on how to get the MOST console like experience out of their handheld. Love ya again, keep up the great work!
ROG ALLY: Setting control mode to Windows mode lets you have full freedom of Wattage up to 60w. The only thing missing in that mode is fan control. This is almost super useful, but without fan controll, the fans stay at 20% even at 85c. I hope they add fan control. ASUS power management is a stuttery mess and I would love to fully circumvent it.
Have you try to setup your own curve with G helper on a custom power profile? I'm not sure how AC will react tho. I think all the power user tools are conflicting with windows' priority system ATM... It's hard to get a good custom experience on the device. if only Asus could have done good work and integrate all of these functions OTB in AC...
so whats stopping you doing the same thing via the armory, set it at 28 W custom profile , and then set the FPS. I get that the armory you have to make custom profiles to do it, vs just do it on the fly i guess thats the only positive
man this device is attracts me more than the steamdeck and i own a deck already. the fact that you can do windows and install other windows games and apps is just appetizing to me. with the deck i have linux but i dislike it alot. i should have waited up instead of buying my deck. only if installing windows were easy on my deck i would do it in a heartbeat but too bad that you need to install drivers and what have you as well while with the ally its all pre installed. you just need to upgrade your software.
Actually depending on how you use your Windows the Ally's Windows 11 is quite painful...
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I have both steam deck and ROG Ally , if I would need to pick only one I would choose the Steam Deck , the fact that you have a native 800p screen helps much more for the games I play to feel smooth even if I have to limit the FPS , on Windows the FPS limit does not really work as on Steam deck and for exmemple I have much better time with Snowrunner on Steam Deck with battery over 3 hours , compared to unstable performance on windwos on ROG Ally and only max 90 minutes maybe
ETA prime, I live in North Carolina as well so shouts out to you. Could you please make a video of what equipment you would use to start off a youtube channel? Maybe even do the equipment on tiers? A video on how you would go about it if you had to start over again or how the process works to create content?
The thing that i think isnt being clarified when it comes to the chit chat regarding gaming handhelds is that its a matter of convenience and that the majority of 'mobile' circumstances will actually have access to power...and what gaming handhelds should actually be emphasing is plugged in performance with workable battery performance being secondary. The most intensive computing for consumer use is gaming...even video rendering is simply a matter of waiting a little while which for almost everyone should never be issue.
Just installed on my Aya2 (6800U). Mostly just works :) However, I keep accidentally turning the wifi off. The wifi toggle is the first thing in the list and is immediately select, so if you are moving the stick to figure out where you are at, the wifi gets toggled. My only other issue is that the mouse emulation doesn't automatically turn off in games like AyaSpace.
Igpu statsuc clock is broken. If you turn it on, you cant turn it off. Be double sure that the app isnt set to open on boot otherwise you might beock your device
Looks like manual mode won't allow the app to take control of power management. Windows mode won't allow fan control so you'll always get thermal throttled. Basically useless at this point
@onsh it works for me . Using manual mode for fan control and x86 handled the rest. Only issue was gpu freq stays at what you set as until a reboot. Besides Asus put out a new fan curve for turbo mode so it's not like it's much of a issue anymore
Hey dude cool video. Im just looking for info to buy or pass? Are you experiencing any crash or freezes? Does these tips and tricks help? Thanks in advance
Adaptive FPS works like Radeon Chill (but works properly with controller input), so when no user input is detected, the minimum FPS value is set, and when user input is detected, the max FPS limit will be applied. I found it useful to save power with instances where high FPS isn’t needed, so I added it to the application.
I downloaded the utility its not working the way it did for you I had to use the right joystick as the mouse the d pad just allowed me to see more options how do you change the color from black and white letters
I think Handheld Companion should do a better job at that, since this doesn't have controller configuration but Handheld Companion does. Though I can't say for sure since I don't have an x86 handheld.
Did you disabled armory crate for testing this tool? Or disabled the quick tools from armory crate? I tried an another tools but they keep crashing with armory running in the background.
can this software be used to Desktops? Cause it seems so easy to use RTSS and its very useful to have access to all these options at Laptops/Desktops too!
What adjustments are needed for WWE2K23 I get a lot of stuttering on my Ally. Please help me fix this thank you so much as an Ally owner you’re content has helped me more and more.
There's nothing for GPU scaling? Apparently that's needed, at least on the Steam Deck, to deal with those black screens when loading newly installed games...I have to remote into Team Viewer just to see the actual game scree and change the res so it shows up on my Deck.
When you fine tune stuff it's quite surprising what you can get on these handhelds. On my GPD Win4 I can get 2 hours of battery in Spiderman and it runs great at medium settings. I's sure anything that runs in Retroarch would work fine on 2 cores and going down to 5-6w easily.
So doing this and setting the FPS to 60 and watts to 18 locks it at 6w. Gpu usage drops to 0% and cpu is around 10% at a speed of 700. Disabling those options then changes nothing and I have to restart. Does it every single time.
The problem is I've just tried the software and now after removing the program my Rog Ally still stucked at the settings, is there any way to reset to defaults?
does power limit work with rog ally original charger while in docking mode? because im mostly using it in docking mode , and while in docking mode max tdp i can get is 25w
I installed the program yesterday after seeing the video about it. It worked fine but when I didn't use my Azus for 6 hours it started to have issues. I tried to use it right now but it freezes then goes back to normal then the screen goes black and shuts down. I'm not sure what to do to fix this
How do you completely get rid of this? I made the terrible mistake of lowering my apu wattage to 15 watts and now can’t reopen. Even after reinstalling and using armory crates turbo mode, I’m stuck in 15 watts and hope I didn’t just brick my device
@@Gamezone-ze3oz no its not adjusting its tdp based on frame rate. ive tested it. it just uses whatever tdp you have given it and tries to output the set fps. i tried it on HZD
@@Jason5818UI infinitely better, I don't even have AC installed. It has game profiles, autotdp (the power is adjusted on the fly for the target framerate, pure bliss) and a lot of nice options. The only thing missing is rgb control (it stays on the default rainbow lights). Also, the updates are coming very fast, a lot of bugs were fixed quickly.
I went to Best Buy to check out the ROG Ally demo unit and I have to say that it feels cheap and it was boiling hot and not running a game. Even though the Steam Deck is weaker hardware, it feels like a more premium device. I can't live without having the dual onboard track pads.
Cool tool, but i saw that you are not using the "Auto" preset for the Video Memory, why not ? i have heared that that will improve performance slightly
I tried Auto and was getting terrible performance in games like CyberPunk2077 and Halo MCC. Setting 4GB improved performance quite a bit. Setting 8GB didn’t improve average, but drastically helped with stuttering in game from 0.1% lows.
You channel is becoming more and more important for Ally owners. Thanks ETA Prime.
I hope he sees this and does more expimental videos
Godsend ETA Prime
right
I remember the days of finding ETA when I was trying to figure out how to set up RetroPie years ago :)
This program is going to change the rog ally scene so much. Ive only tested with only 6 cores and the gpu seems to ramp up a bit better in starfield. Pretty happy so far :)
Wow didn’t know they had this software. Keep these updates coming for the Ally
This is great to know! Appreciate for sharing this to the handheld gaming community- more specifically the ASUS ROG Ally
Thanks for sharing. This is gonna be fun to mess around with to get the most out of the ROG Ally. Such a great handheld. This is really gonna make it my go to handheld.
I've pre-ordered the 2023 GPD WinMax2. Something like this will come in handy.
You might want to mention that in Armory Crate to set AC to the windows power management option. If you don't AC and UTU will fight over power management.
Idk how to use this. AC still somehow overrides anything I do in UTU.
@melxb AC= Armoury Crate, UTU=Universal Tuning Utility
What do you use for fan curve ?
This what do you use for fan curve
Just got my Rog ally, and loving it!!
Why didnt Asus make software like this on release
We need benchmarks! I wonder if that clock/power limit can truly push the APU harder than the built-in options.
Yep, really want to see a video on that.
Great review. It's amazing that a handheld is now as powerful as gaming laptops.
But it's missing the most important function....the auto tdp, after that,it's a very nice program for the handhelds🔥
Man! This is extremely helpful! Thanks brother
Thank you for this. Gonna download it now!
Love these armory crate/ayaspace alternative videos!
In my country pre-order start 27 june, and i can't wait to get mine on september..
But why the long wait.. Watching your video will prep me well when i get my hands on
just what i was looking for
This is sick. Just the RivaTuner quick access is worth it alone as I'm not really happy with Asus' own FPS limiter since it doesn't function unless it's set before you open a game.
Might also be worth mentioning that the fps limiter only works for exclusive full screen, if the game only supports fullscreen (windowed) you’re out of luck
wtf why is that
What about MSI afterburner, does the limiter works with it and RivaTuner?
Love the videos, been on the channel since 2017 for the early launch box days. Can you do an ULTIMATE setup with a custom windows like Tiny or Ghost(prefer ghost lol), handheld control panel, utu and big box? I think that would apply to ALL handhelds and would really give people who aren't PC savvy a step by step guide on how to get the MOST console like experience out of their handheld. Love ya again, keep up the great work!
ROG ALLY: Setting control mode to Windows mode lets you have full freedom of Wattage up to 60w. The only thing missing in that mode is fan control. This is almost super useful, but without fan controll, the fans stay at 20% even at 85c. I hope they add fan control. ASUS power management is a stuttery mess and I would love to fully circumvent it.
Have you try to setup your own curve with G helper on a custom power profile? I'm not sure how AC will react tho.
I think all the power user tools are conflicting with windows' priority system ATM... It's hard to get a good custom experience on the device. if only Asus could have done good work and integrate all of these functions OTB in AC...
how to to that
Wish AC would have an option to disable CPU cores, change max CPU/GPU clock and autotdp.
Thanks for the link!
Thank you for the great videos.
so whats stopping you doing the same thing via the armory, set it at 28 W custom profile , and then set the FPS. I get that the armory you have to make custom profiles to do it, vs just do it on the fly i guess thats the only positive
Can you PLEASE look into using G-helper in conjunction with Handheld Companion as a total replacement to Armoury Crate??
man this device is attracts me more than the steamdeck and i own a deck already. the fact that you can do windows and install other windows games and apps is just appetizing to me. with the deck i have linux but i dislike it alot. i should have waited up instead of buying my deck.
only if installing windows were easy on my deck i would do it in a heartbeat but too bad that you need to install drivers and what have you as well while with the ally its all pre installed. you just need to upgrade your software.
I'm running windows on my steam deck and it works very well.
Istalling windows on deck is easy, fast and stupid.
Do it! It's a really decent product.
Actually depending on how you use your Windows the Ally's Windows 11 is quite painful...
I have both steam deck and ROG Ally , if I would need to pick only one I would choose the Steam Deck , the fact that you have a native 800p screen helps much more for the games I play to feel smooth even if I have to limit the FPS , on Windows the FPS limit does not really work as on Steam deck and for exmemple I have much better time with Snowrunner on Steam Deck with battery over 3 hours , compared to unstable performance on windwos on ROG Ally and only max 90 minutes maybe
Could you make a video using it on the Deck and let us know how it perform/work there?
ETA prime, I live in North Carolina as well so shouts out to you. Could you please make a video of what equipment you would use to start off a youtube channel? Maybe even do the equipment on tiers? A video on how you would go about it if you had to start over again or how the process works to create content?
The thing that i think isnt being clarified when it comes to the chit chat regarding gaming handhelds is that its a matter of convenience and that the majority of 'mobile' circumstances will actually have access to power...and what gaming handhelds should actually be emphasing is plugged in performance with workable battery performance being secondary. The most intensive computing for consumer use is gaming...even video rendering is simply a matter of waiting a little while which for almost everyone should never be issue.
I will try it ❤
Does the temperature limit only downclock or does it adjust fan speeds?
Can this work on laptops? Because this will be a very nice tool for gaming laptops.
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It works, at least some of settings.
they have other tools for ryzen based laptops iirc
Have you ever heard of a desktop-only program or a laptop only program?
Not sure if its because of my latest update but LB+RB+D pad up doesn't bring up the overlay.
Thanks JamesCJ60 😩😩😩
Awesome content
Just installed on my Aya2 (6800U). Mostly just works :)
However, I keep accidentally turning the wifi off. The wifi toggle is the first thing in the list and is immediately select, so if you are moving the stick to figure out where you are at, the wifi gets toggled.
My only other issue is that the mouse emulation doesn't automatically turn off in games like AyaSpace.
Tried this over hc and I went back to hc. This software raised my draw to 23w where hc is drawing 13. This was diablo 4. 60fpd
Hope the next update will bring per configuration for each games/software.
Could there be conflicts with the Crate app? Hopefully works better when out of beta.
Igpu statsuc clock is broken. If you turn it on, you cant turn it off. Be double sure that the app isnt set to open on boot otherwise you might beock your device
Which is better, this or Project SBC you showed a couple of months ago?
What about AutoTDP?
For the Ally, would this conflict with the build in applications like Command Center, MyAsus and Armoury Crate?
You can put Armory into a mode that let's windows control the power management. When you do that it will let the other program control all that.
I'm using alongside the manual mode in armory crate for fan control.
Looks like manual mode won't allow the app to take control of power management. Windows mode won't allow fan control so you'll always get thermal throttled. Basically useless at this point
@onsh it works for me . Using manual mode for fan control and x86 handled the rest. Only issue was gpu freq stays at what you set as until a reboot. Besides Asus put out a new fan curve for turbo mode so it's not like it's much of a issue anymore
Hey dude cool video. Im just looking for info to buy or pass? Are you experiencing any crash or freezes? Does these tips and tricks help? Thanks in advance
Which one is better? This or handheld companion?
HC
What about the fans? Would you recommend setting a customer fan curve in AC then use this to change the power and stuff
Is adaptive fps like auto-tdp feature in handheld companion?
Adaptive FPS works like Radeon Chill (but works properly with controller input), so when no user input is detected, the minimum FPS value is set, and when user input is detected, the max FPS limit will be applied.
I found it useful to save power with instances where high FPS isn’t needed, so I added it to the application.
Do we have to disable armory crate, because I feel that this might cause issues if both apps are operating.
Can you do a video on handheld companion too?
Wow nice it's even better than armory crate. But it can't set up fans.
I installed it but the hotkeys to open and close the app on the fly dont work and i have to close it and reopen from desktop each time to use it
I downloaded the utility its not working the way it did for you I had to use the right joystick as the mouse the d pad just allowed me to see more options how do you change the color from black and white letters
Would this be a replacement for Armoury Crate?
I think Handheld Companion should do a better job at that, since this doesn't have controller configuration but Handheld Companion does. Though I can't say for sure since I don't have an x86 handheld.
@@SamuelDoesThings2011 if only handheld companion allowed for fan speed adjustment..
@@iNfLune5 it does now bro well atleast the patreon version does
@@itsisme1993 rip it's still greyed out despite using Patreon build
@@iNfLune5 oh that's annoying hopefully it works soon :)
Did you disabled armory crate for testing this tool? Or disabled the quick tools from armory crate? I tried an another tools but they keep crashing with armory running in the background.
is it safe to increase the tdp to 45 watts with high gpu frequency
can this software be used to Desktops? Cause it seems so easy to use RTSS and its very useful to have access to all these options at Laptops/Desktops too!
Seems like there is, go to all his repositories and there is one without handheld in the name
What adjustments are needed for WWE2K23 I get a lot of stuttering on my Ally. Please help me fix this thank you so much as an Ally owner you’re content has helped me more and more.
Can you figure out how to fix the sd sandisk problem?😊
RAM usage of these tools would be good to know.
Its will be dangerous for the Z1 extrem to go up to 30w no? Can you try 35watt maybe?
Are the settings per game or in general?
This is fucking wicked
How does it clash with Amoury Crate? Does it save the settings per game or do you have to change for every game?
Just missing fan controls and it would make this a 10/10 app.
I'm sure we'll see it in time though.
What settings would you set every setting too for Diablo 4
Does this override the stock tools? My fans seem to run right, just wondering about the tdp and RSR
Question:
Will it conflict with amoury crate when the two are open at the same time?
how did he make the info on the top let appear like that? which program you use?
There's nothing for GPU scaling? Apparently that's needed, at least on the Steam Deck, to deal with those black screens when loading newly installed games...I have to remote into Team Viewer just to see the actual game scree and change the res so it shows up on my Deck.
Was a glitchy unusable mess for me. Maybe it'll get better in the future but handheld companion functions way better for me
Same, my Ally would hang immediately once UTUH loaded for no apparent reason
Emulation with 2 cores would be interessting. And battery life test
Also some indie titles would run too. Last night i tried Blasphemous and huntdown, with a old laptop AMD E 450 And was surprised by the performance
When you fine tune stuff it's quite surprising what you can get on these handhelds. On my GPD Win4 I can get 2 hours of battery in Spiderman and it runs great at medium settings. I's sure anything that runs in Retroarch would work fine on 2 cores and going down to 5-6w easily.
So doing this and setting the FPS to 60 and watts to 18 locks it at 6w. Gpu usage drops to 0% and cpu is around 10% at a speed of 700. Disabling those options then changes nothing and I have to restart. Does it every single time.
Awesome.........
But when it's running in the background I loose access to my controller in-game
can you use this to force jedi survivor to run at 60 fps on the rog ally ^^
which version of firmware this Ally has where you try this tool on ?
The problem is I've just tried the software and now after removing the program my Rog Ally still stucked at the settings, is there any way to reset to defaults?
Will this help with possible thermal throttling issues?
Is there any way to save settings per game? Or save different profile names so we can save as game profiles.
how do you turn on or off that display performance overlay?
does power limit work with rog ally original charger while in docking mode?
because im mostly using it in docking mode , and while in docking mode max tdp i can get is 25w
Once play game in full tdp {60w tdp}
Will 28 watts fry my sd card? I already ruined one sadly and want the sweet spot between performance at 60 and having that available storage
I tried installing beta 9 right now but GUI doesn't seem to work for me, dunno why
It Doesn't quite work on mine 🤷
No core or cpu frequency limitation...
What overlay are you using?
28w is crazy on a handheld, rip battery life
When its plugged to a chrager even 40-50w doesnt effect the battery at all
so do i get rid of armory crates built in will the softwares clash?
Is there a way to force the apu to stay at a constant 42 watts with this?
I installed the program yesterday after seeing the video about it. It worked fine but when I didn't use my Azus for 6 hours it started to have issues. I tried to use it right now but it freezes then goes back to normal then the screen goes black and shuts down. I'm not sure what to do to fix this
How do you completely get rid of this? I made the terrible mistake of lowering my apu wattage to 15 watts and now can’t reopen. Even after reinstalling and using armory crates turbo mode, I’m stuck in 15 watts and hope I didn’t just brick my device
@ricksanchez7250 nah I fixed it, bios reset lol
Auto-TDP in Handheld Companion works great for me, really simple. Universal X86 Tuning Utility could become more useful with such a feature.
It's adjusting its power based on a set framerate. Isn't that AutoTDP?
I use autoTDP as well. This one has a nice menu but I'm so used to the AutoTDP menu now that I will keep using it.
@@Gamezone-ze3oz no its not adjusting its tdp based on frame rate. ive tested it. it just uses whatever tdp you have given it and tries to output the set fps. i tried it on HZD
for some reason mine wont open even with everything installed. my program just hangs.
help please!
Not opening when pressing the LB + RB + Dpad up.
That good and easy not crash of game
any conflict with armory crate? is this better compared to armory crate?
I've asked as well. Seems there would be conflicts with AC.
Is there an auto button for people that just want it to run smooth and have better battery performance
Why not Handheld Companion? it has many other options, like enabling gyro feature
What is handheld companion...is it better than AC?
Tried it. It's pretty buggy. The overlay would just be blank many times.
@@Jason5818UI infinitely better, I don't even have AC installed. It has game profiles, autotdp (the power is adjusted on the fly for the target framerate, pure bliss) and a lot of nice options. The only thing missing is rgb control (it stays on the default rainbow lights).
Also, the updates are coming very fast, a lot of bugs were fixed quickly.
@@desertbum8 did you try recently? The fixes come fast
I went to Best Buy to check out the ROG Ally demo unit and I have to say that it feels cheap and it was boiling hot and not running a game. Even though the Steam Deck is weaker hardware, it feels like a more premium device. I can't live without having the dual onboard track pads.
The Ally does not feel cheap by any stretch. The SD does because of the cheap plastic used to make it lol. This is just bias unfortunately.
i thought the same thing at first but the rective screen more than makes up for it
The clamp they use blocks the air flow. Poor design for the clamp.
@sir.fender6034 And the Steam Deck also feels like a cheaply made product which is also a fact. So saying this is no actual comparison lol.
@@sir.fender6034 Nope. Have that and the Deck. Both seem well-built for plastic.
How far can the wattage ve pushed?
Cool tool, but i saw that you are not using the "Auto" preset for the Video Memory, why not ? i have heared that that will improve performance slightly
Auto gives you issues in some games for example diablo 4 will run terrible when set to auto 4gb seems to be the sweet spot
I set mine to auto most of my games run alot better. I'm still on the old bios
I tried Auto and was getting terrible performance in games like CyberPunk2077 and Halo MCC. Setting 4GB improved performance quite a bit. Setting 8GB didn’t improve average, but drastically helped with stuttering in game from 0.1% lows.
The default 4gb is the best overall setting, don’t fall for the hype
Man I don’t know what happened but the ally won’t run games now and I get a message about the gpu nothing runs fast if at all I don’t understand