RV Frame Flex (What is that?)

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  • @marytroche984
    @marytroche984 2 роки тому +3

    Great haircut, makes you look younger too. What a cool salon name! And glad to hear Fiona’s frame is intact!

  • @donaldlajeunesse1455
    @donaldlajeunesse1455 2 роки тому +4

    Nice video and you covered some important information. Your next and continuing inspections will be the horizontal seam and caulk that runs on the front cap down towards the front hatch. It is the one you caulked after you reinstalled the fiberglass piece you dropped. The caulk and trim piece will separate when there is a problem. I always get flack for my next statement. Every chassis coming to GD needs to be reinspected. Welds measured and tested. I find it very intriguing that builders like New Horizons and Space Craft can build a heavy 40 foot unit and still use only 4 points on the chassis for leveling and be just fine.

    • @jamesglenn520
      @jamesglenn520 2 роки тому

      Space Crafts are built on full fledg HDT trailer frames.
      They run the same axels and air brakes.
      I personally haven't researched the New Horizons frames yet though.

  • @hammer48ful
    @hammer48ful 2 роки тому +1

    I'm glad that I'm not full time. We travel weeks at a time, but, when we get back I go over the RV just to see what repairs I have to do. Our biggest problem is the highways. Some of them are worst than the gravel roads we sometimes travel.

  • @scottsmith5899
    @scottsmith5899 2 роки тому +3

    Nice hair ! 👍 Time for independent suspension. I think it depends on the length, weight, and of course the road. Thanks for the heads up on the issue.

  • @robertcolpitts4534
    @robertcolpitts4534 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! What many RVers don't understand is that you are towing a home in gale force to category 1 hurricane winds across roads that essentially simulate a Richter 4.0 to 7.0 earthquake. The RV has to survive all of that pretty much undamaged. The larger the RV, the more these effects become critical. We found out last month that some of the rough roads don't treat you or your trailer vary well. With all the attention on the Interstate highway maintenance, the older Federal highway system has deteriorated in many areas to where I wouldn't take any trailer (travel trailer or 5th wheel) down them. We put about 3700 miles on our trailer in 2 1/2 weeks last month and hit some really harsh pavement. Our trailer did fine but we may have damaged our heater. We'll have to have a service guy check it.
    Safe travels!
    Bob and Dottie

  • @HomeMeetsRoad
    @HomeMeetsRoad 2 роки тому +1

    We have some frame flex on our River Ranch.
    The outside walls move separately from the frame; it’s the wildest thing.
    Everyone tells me we have a cracked frame, but I have double-checked.
    Thank you for talking about this!

  • @SaltyVetAdventures
    @SaltyVetAdventures 2 роки тому +2

    I love you guys! I can't believe the timing of this video!!!! THANK YOU! I just bought a 2021 Momentum 397TH from a guy who only used it 3 months and I got an AMAZING deal on it. Well, I noticed the exact same issues up front and I ended up taking the front end apart and inspecting the frame just like you did because I thought the fame was falling apart. I'm glad that I'm not alone in this.
    It's like when you have a small cough and look it up on WebMD...all of a sudden you're gonna die tomorrow.
    Once our house sells and we hit the road full time...we have to meet up! Stay safe out there.

  • @bobelder18
    @bobelder18 2 роки тому +1

    You have come a long way. I remember when you biggest fear was moving the rv and parking it. To see you take things apart like in this video, it is amazing. Great job.

  • @greggbimber7619
    @greggbimber7619 2 роки тому +1

    Just pick up our 2023 Alliance Avenue 32RLS on Monday. Traded our 2001 Cedar Creek. Your talking about frame flex, you should have seen the flex the old camper had every time I hocked the truck. Glad you got your hair under control again, although every video I would wonder " How messy is it going to be this time". Now the suspense is gone.

  • @xaviermartinez6642
    @xaviermartinez6642 2 роки тому +1

    I will definitely start paying closer attention to the interior of our fifth wheel now.

  • @paullamoureux2730
    @paullamoureux2730 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome to the club - you are not alone. Our 399TH is now in Elkhart being repaired right now.

  • @DrRodder_Jim
    @DrRodder_Jim 2 роки тому

    I pull a travel trailer toy hauler. It still has manual stableizers. If I crank 1 corner up, I can see the frame flex during camp set up. I never worry knowing that is how trailers work. It's a 2006, so it's been around a while. Also easy to see the frame underneath since it is 1 level (no 5er up parts enclosed). While inspecting the frame keep an eye on suspension parts like spring hangers for breaks or cracked welds. Better to catch it early than to break going down the freeway.

  • @jameskennedy673
    @jameskennedy673 2 роки тому +1

    👍👍👍👍👍always make sure that all of the screws, nuts, bolts are always tight, if you don’t have an assortment of them, the get them. People say that RVS are a rolling earthquake, it’s understandable. If you haven’t done so yet check the axle bolts, shackles, etc. By the way if I had that many miles put on me I’d be flexing also😊😊

  • @rickhill909
    @rickhill909 2 роки тому

    We had a new 45' toyhauler in 2011 when we stayed at Bay Bayou for 7 months. They made us change spots half way through into a tight spot. The pantry door was in a twist from the whole unit being torqued. They have to make these units so light to have the size and features. Most 45' units are already almost to heavy for a dually.

  • @DreamingOutloudRVing
    @DreamingOutloudRVing 2 роки тому

    We just got our 2022 back from the factory. It had frame issue (lost Camber). We had exterior wall cracked through to the interior wall. We put out a video showing the damage. It has been repaired (supposedly). This cost us several thousands since we were displaced from our full time RV.

  • @DavidBrown-jt7yi
    @DavidBrown-jt7yi 2 роки тому

    I live in Colorado and you are right, the roads are absolutely horrible. I was towing in the back areas of Western South Dakota about two weeks ago and their roads in the backwoods are 5x better than any Colorado road. It’s pretty sad. I hope everything turns out good for you guys.

  • @judyhenson9802
    @judyhenson9802 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the information. Glad there was no problem with the selds on your rig. Like the hair!

  • @Luv2Bhitched
    @Luv2Bhitched Рік тому +1

    Doing all the things. Very good information and the camera view inside while towing....wow!!

  • @pennyfelger9134
    @pennyfelger9134 2 роки тому

    Love the.cut!!! Thank You! The overgrown hair…un combed…gives the impression of not caring. 👍🏻

  • @sandyhazlett2600
    @sandyhazlett2600 2 роки тому +1

    Good info... we had some cracks in some key places involving g the cap of our 5th wheel... took it to Elkhart... took 2 weeks to repair... could have been much worse... got it independent suspension installed now that will hopefully help prevent any structural issues again... (on a side note, your hair cut looks great Todd 👍🏻)

  • @texasproud3332
    @texasproud3332 2 роки тому

    I think after watching a lot of RVIng videos that you’re best solution is to try to make sure you have the suspension you can afford at your axles and the hitch also and the just drive sensibly down the road

  • @bretthiler2401
    @bretthiler2401 2 роки тому

    I've about 2k miles on Suomo Springs study says it removes 60% of road shock easy to install so far wow well worth it Todd it may give you a little more piece of mind

  • @carolmcdaniel7693
    @carolmcdaniel7693 2 роки тому +1

    Love your new haircut! Great info on your rig. Signed up for the Florida Huddle today. Can't wait to meet you!

  • @lisabeel5120
    @lisabeel5120 2 роки тому +2

    Doing “all the things” for you tube. Cheers from KC ~lisa b.

  • @adamlevine2320
    @adamlevine2320 2 роки тому

    This is good stuff to keep in mind. Thanks for making everyone aware. On a side note, digging the new haircut. I also want to thank y'all for responding to questions I had about the content I've started creating. Looking forward to attending the conference in May...Keep having safe travels and exciting adventures!

  • @rdrose61
    @rdrose61 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks... possibly use a bladder lift leveling tool as a wedge\protector for the fridge. It is a heavy rubber\plastic bag that is usually inserted under an object and inflated with an attached squeeze bulb that inflates it. They can lift 300 or more pounds. it would be like your Reese air bag for the fridge (but on the side)..

  • @trevorkraklow4100
    @trevorkraklow4100 2 роки тому +1

    Good info about frame flexing...Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @Giesis
    @Giesis 2 роки тому

    This is a great video!!I have watched thousands of videos about RVs and I have never heard of frame flex. Time to inspect our RV welds. 😂
    We had a freakout because people kept posting about water tank dropping. I disassembled the whole bottom of the RV just to check. It would be a bad day if we have a 500 lbs water tank drop while doing 60 MPH.

  • @kevincameron8437
    @kevincameron8437 2 роки тому +1

    Todd, you’ve done some good research on this and it’s amazing footage on your bedroom movement. Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @rstspecos
    @rstspecos 2 роки тому

    Haircut looks great! Much better now. I hear indecent suspensions work great for those rough highways

  • @2-4travel88
    @2-4travel88 2 роки тому

    I have a 2021 395m and I have the exact issues that you do in the bedroom and I dont blame that on rough roads, I just went to the GD national rally in Goshen In this year and I showed them my issues and they told me I had frame flex and it needed to get fixed, they set an apppointment for the repairs totaling 58 hours of shop time at their brand new customer service facility, There they removed my front cap and the peice that bends under the nose where the pinbox comes out. I requested pictures and what they sent me was pretty revealing they added about 40 lbs of 2x2 metal bracing and 4 large gussets to help with all the flex. this is a real issue and it will be the end of your rig if not addressed. they (GD) are very aware of this issue and while they say its a lippert issue they are not involving them. there were no charges from GD to fix my issue and while it was in there they did a quality review and found several more days of work that was needed even though I didnt even know it was needed. If you would like to contact me thats ok but im not sure how we do that without posting a phone # or email for the general public to see and im not up for that.

  • @cindycierlik8162
    @cindycierlik8162 2 роки тому +1

    Love the haircut it's sharp. I like it longer on top. Good video. Keep up the good work 🙂

  • @vincebotkin1960
    @vincebotkin1960 2 роки тому

    Now that you have checked out the frame flex on the front of your 5th wheel, time to check out the spring hangers and frame above them for stress cracking.

  • @cross9494
    @cross9494 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the great informative video! Probably be a lot of people checking there rigs now! But that's a good thing! Thanks for another great video!

  • @skeim5620
    @skeim5620 2 роки тому +1

    Now I’m really thinking twice about me buying it

  • @CoCo-yv3hl
    @CoCo-yv3hl 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful couple ❤

  • @destinysisco3142
    @destinysisco3142 Рік тому +1

    So authentic

  • @Dansbyphotography
    @Dansbyphotography 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video. November is right around the corner how about a shade of purple for Epilepsy Awareness Month

  • @marktracy
    @marktracy 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the great info. Who knew, frame flexing? Well, it does explain a lot. We have to stay on top of the little things so they don't become huge issues.... Safe travels. And oh, love the cut.

  • @guillermovivancol844
    @guillermovivancol844 2 роки тому +3

    CHANGE THE SPRING SUSPENSION TO AN INDIVIDUAL SUSPENSION

    • @lyndcason7516
      @lyndcason7516 2 роки тому

      I have the Morryde Independent Suspension on my Solitude and have the exact same side cabinet movement that they do.
      I also have the same fridge movement when my slide comes in and out.

  • @brianroth7852
    @brianroth7852 2 роки тому

    Todd, it all comes down to suspension components. We are already setting up for the crap roads out there.
    1:. We bought a Trailsaver tsl5,
    5th wheel plate. All air ride.
    2:. Switching out the low capacity axles. Switching over to 10,000lb axles with oil bathed bearings
    3:. Air ride main plate.
    4:. Looked at IPS Suspension for each axle. Just too much money. However going to the Lipert airide system which is similar to over the road heavy haul trailers.
    5:. Switching to Air over Hydraulic disc brakes. Better stopping distances.
    6:. Plus our truck is full Air Ride suspension.
    We plan on purchasing a Grand Design Momentum 398m. Empty weight is just a hair under 17,000lbs.
    Also the Big Boss says your hair cut is aussome. 💇‍♂️. Safe travels and roads Brian and Cindy, "xtreambydesign with passion"

  • @RiverWoods111
    @RiverWoods111 2 роки тому +1

    You may need to shore up the cabinets in the bedroom, so they don't fall on you one night. That would not be fun and if they are that loose then they could come down while driving or just sleeping. I know a lot of people talk about having to secure trim, cabinets, and stuff better in RVs after they get them when they are brand new. This looks like you might want to investigate that.

  • @markhudson109
    @markhudson109 2 роки тому

    Good to know when looking at a used RV...

  • @joemiles6917
    @joemiles6917 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video and hair cut. Hope you are getting your truck fixed?

  • @diannemcneal6104
    @diannemcneal6104 2 роки тому

    Love the haircut! Your frame concerns makes you wonder if the RV is made for the miles you are traveling.

  • @chipangelicamartelle802
    @chipangelicamartelle802 2 роки тому +1

    Another awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kreammedia2736
    @kreammedia2736 2 роки тому

    That was the main reason we sold the American eagle after tiles started cracking and bought a xl2 Prevost. Having seen any flex yet

  • @sonnymassey4179
    @sonnymassey4179 2 роки тому

    Hey Todd love the hair cut. I to had some problems with my frame I have a 2015 375TS keystone raptor toy hauler. We had a crack develop on the bottom left corner on the bedroom slide we have a east west bed so there is some weight on that side. It took 3 visits for the RV repair shop to get it fixed. They finally had to take the side wall off forward of the slide where they found welds that had broke and that Lippert hadn’t put some braces in the side wall. This was pre COVID so it was just shoddy work we called lippert and you can guess what they said when they were called camper is 7 years old we won’t cover it. All in all it was a 5000$ fix and I will give a shout to Bob’s RV of Marion NC they did a outstanding job and if somebody has a problem and in the area they will treat you right.

  • @scottsmith922
    @scottsmith922 2 роки тому +1

    Love the haircut.....good informative video and boy have you gone alot of miles towing Fiona

  • @sandycrouse9846
    @sandycrouse9846 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing,this was interesting

  • @douglastodd1947
    @douglastodd1947 10 місяців тому

    Switch It My advice get rid of your 5 th wheel trailer, buy a Big rig style of Trailer that hooks onto the rear of the Artic units Trailer,, One front steering axle hooks onto a tow bar fixed to the chassis of towing vehicle , One fixed axle @ the rear , loads now sitting on 2 axles one @ either end , No more Twisting , Folding up Chassis legs , means towing Pick up has lost the 5 th wheel coupling , allowing more space for equipment , such as Gas & Fuel Tanks etc.

  • @lyndcason7516
    @lyndcason7516 2 роки тому

    Our 3 year old, 30k mile Grand Design Solitude S-Class 2930RL-R has the exact same cabinet rubbing wear in our bedroom. Started out looking like yours. Gradually gotten worse over time. Rough New England roads on our current trip didn't help. Took it to Elkhart lady week for GD inspection. They don't think it's a huge issue, but are wanting some weight info next. Will see where it goes. They seem to be willing to help.
    Also, my residential fridge also moves when the side goes in and out. Mine has been reinforced by the dealer. Only difference is that mine is perfectly square when the side is in, but looks like it's leaning slightly to the right when the slide is out.

  • @damonbruce8233
    @damonbruce8233 2 роки тому

    Hey, I have a 399TH (2022) Manufactured in 2021. I had/have “frame flex”, my pin box was flexing 2” between hitched and unhitched. The ride was very “soft” and bouncy. The SRT team came out and found that there were missing bolts in the forward most part of the frame that holds the walls to the frame. Also, our passenger side bolts were backed out. I can get you information on how to inspect. (Easy to inspect) Our bedroom had the same ware marks that yours does. (Same bedroom setup also)

  • @bradplueger7951
    @bradplueger7951 2 роки тому

    Good heads up on "what can happen" and what to look for.

  • @jeffersoncheney
    @jeffersoncheney 2 роки тому

    We travel around in a 337rls. We don't move around as much as y'all do but haven't noticed anything with our grand design. Our rig is not as heavy as yours and we also travel around 60-65 mph. You really needed a haircut, LOL. BTW, like the new truck. 😁

  • @rockymiller5492
    @rockymiller5492 2 роки тому +1

    Happy haircut 💇‍♂️

  • @vtmkb
    @vtmkb 2 роки тому

    Like the hair cut. Also, thanks for some good information that I have not seen covered.

  • @wadelong3329
    @wadelong3329 2 роки тому

    L00king good with the hair cut, on the Frame flex check the video on trailer suspension / Changing Lanes with Tara & Chad very positive on trailers needs for today's highways. ( Morryde Independent suspension )

  • @bonniejindrak8376
    @bonniejindrak8376 2 роки тому

    So glad your RV is ok. BTW love ❤️ love ❤️ love the haircut! You look 10 years younger 😊

  • @matthewstrzelecki4280
    @matthewstrzelecki4280 2 роки тому

    Just got mine back they reinforced the leopard Fame on both i-beams left and right and put in gussets left and right in gas compartment I think that's too eliminate some of the flax hope this helps

  • @flyingbrian6434
    @flyingbrian6434 2 роки тому +1

    Thoughts on the Ford vs your Ram? Thank you for sharing your journey and insights into what you guys have learned. Keep the journey going, look forward to each video!

  • @kathleenrutherford733
    @kathleenrutherford733 2 роки тому

    Aww I miss your locks, I know it will grow back soon, lol
    Thank You for this video, im so grateful

  • @davidbranson1491
    @davidbranson1491 2 роки тому

    Nice hair cut! Hope to see you Saturday.

  • @keliandjaz
    @keliandjaz 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for sharing! We’ve learned so much from y’alls videos about what to expect when owning an rv. Btw we love the intro. ❤

  • @kidscasper4422
    @kidscasper4422 2 роки тому

    Great video. Thanks for all the great tips and tricks. Watching this video got me wondering what kind of hitch lock if any you use.

  • @waynecornwell2321
    @waynecornwell2321 2 роки тому

    Thanks for bringing us along!

  • @cathycostello1787
    @cathycostello1787 2 роки тому

    Love the haircut! about time.........

  • @cher9653
    @cher9653 2 роки тому

    Thanks for your sharing. Really helps.

  • @jeffquigley9943
    @jeffquigley9943 2 роки тому +1

    How do you like driving the f450?

  • @brianmccarthy6198
    @brianmccarthy6198 9 місяців тому

    Thank you. Helpful!

  • @Livin4lyfe101
    @Livin4lyfe101 2 роки тому

    Nice haircut! Looks good!

  • @cjv6052
    @cjv6052 2 роки тому

    Love your haircut, you look younger

  • @dpfreeman1
    @dpfreeman1 2 роки тому +6

    Like the cut

    • @CoCo-yv3hl
      @CoCo-yv3hl 2 роки тому

      Definitely looks great on him

  • @liset6347
    @liset6347 2 роки тому

    Looking good you two!

  • @davidhendrickson9446
    @davidhendrickson9446 2 роки тому +2

    I would say the flex is proportional to the length of the rig.

  • @cindysmith7600
    @cindysmith7600 2 роки тому

    All good info. Thanks for sharing! Like the haircut!

  • @n1uno1965
    @n1uno1965 2 роки тому

    Incredible troubleshooting! Congrats on having the cohones to take this project on! Did you watch UA-cam videos to help you remove the linings? Lovin’ the hairstyle! 🖖🏻😘👍🏻🙏🏻

  • @dougorlando1074
    @dougorlando1074 2 роки тому

    The haircut works! Another good video.

  • @hollygriffin6114
    @hollygriffin6114 2 роки тому

    Love the hair styling

  • @underdog2594
    @underdog2594 2 роки тому

    Haircut looks great

  • @terricarlson5106
    @terricarlson5106 2 роки тому +1

    C4YT.. And, Matt 🥰

  • @davidbranson1491
    @davidbranson1491 2 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @RobWisemanDeezFit
    @RobWisemanDeezFit 2 роки тому

    Look at sumo bushings, timber stlye like they use on trucks.. big truck big rv has a vid on it.

  • @livingtheadventurouslife
    @livingtheadventurouslife 2 роки тому

    Love the haircut!!

  • @lorionodi879
    @lorionodi879 2 роки тому

    The hair looks great Todd 👍

  • @stevecap7049
    @stevecap7049 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video.I have a proposal for you about the hair(nice cut )when I see you at the huddle

  • @texasmamaw6555
    @texasmamaw6555 2 роки тому

    Love the hair cut!,,,,

  • @jdnunnery1082
    @jdnunnery1082 2 роки тому

    Cassi said you look 10 years younger Todd. Switch it Up!!

  • @renelambert552
    @renelambert552 2 роки тому

    We had to adjust our slide after a while it got real tight on one side. UA-cam for the instructions. And Our awning arm didnt line up and shut all the way. And the other awning wasn't going out properly The awning fabric had slid a little and was causing tension. Who knew?!

    • @patrickburke9764
      @patrickburke9764 2 роки тому

      Todd great video on the frame inspection good idea on if your at a factory take pictures, the hair cut I agree too short but you didn't look like the guy from Back to the future you look a little smarter 😉

  • @paulvonauth7254
    @paulvonauth7254 2 роки тому +1

    I have several degree's, including Mech. Eng., to much education, including Notre Dame. I worked out of Detroit, followed by Chicago, "manufacturing" crudely speaking. A car/bike guy, raced for years, managed a major Nascar Team, hence machining/engine build/engineering, senior Engineer at "GM" relating to machining and gear production, hence your "transmission". I know the "Midwest" well, skilled labor was located in Mich., yes, the car industry, Illinois, Wisc. and Ohio. Indiana never was considered a "manu" state with the exception of the "RV" world and Elkhart, Ind. The 'TALENT" level was subpar as well as wages/salary. Through the years companies migrated to Indiana based on economics, or low wages, benefits etc., yes low cost of living. These "RV" companies exploded obviously through the years, BUT quality employees remained. Your "aluminum" subframe is an issue with these large-scale RV's, there are others. The weld itself, or "how you weld aluminum" is critical. The "axles" are critical coupled with the suspension!!!!! Grand Design has these "flashy" RV"s but quality, workmanship is an issue!!!!!, your "RV" is a "Ford" with a "Ferrari" paint scheme. LOL, sorry, not a "DICK", just tell it like it is....but great videos, thanks.

    • @SpykersB
      @SpykersB 2 роки тому

      I concur! 🍻

  • @patertl7345
    @patertl7345 2 роки тому

    thanks

  • @kimharward192
    @kimharward192 2 роки тому +1

    And I like the hair!

  • @evertsarawilkerson8687
    @evertsarawilkerson8687 Рік тому +1

    Still need to do the Todd hair skit thou... Re-watching stuff

  • @kimharward192
    @kimharward192 2 роки тому +1

    Our fridge wasn’t locked in place. Dealer had to take care of it.

  • @bryanstaten5585
    @bryanstaten5585 2 роки тому

    If I ever buy another rv it will have trailing arm suspension and some type of air ride hitch. When you're traveling its a combination of a strong storm and earthquake that rv is going through. Sad that mostanufacturers don't take that into account.

  • @stephenpolos1689
    @stephenpolos1689 2 роки тому

    Good video 😀 grand design is a nice rig but definitely not the best there frame are not custom built liperd frame could be used on manufactured you just can't weld to fix the frame there are a few grand design with frame damage some by the axles you went to other manufacture and check the construction new horizon has a great frame they builded for each floor plan but you have to pay big price for it about 200 thousand or more that's the draw back it's what you can afford! But enjoy the travel 😄

  • @rtoadontheroad
    @rtoadontheroad 2 роки тому

    Thx learned something new Todd!

  • @vickywray7285
    @vickywray7285 2 роки тому

    Love the haircut Todd!

  • @you166mhz
    @you166mhz 2 роки тому +1

    now you look like any Joe Blow ....
    BTW -- Sheila always looks great ....
    :)

  • @MooreTravelAdventures
    @MooreTravelAdventures 2 роки тому

    Hair looks great!