Hello guys I have tried statik shiv build on Nilah and have lost -140 LP while doing so! Not to mention the games I have won I didn't feel like I have any say in them and I just coexisted besides my teammates without being able to influence the fights as much due to being unable to snowball early because I felt like I can never fight enemies even at 1 item powerspike and I had to wait for 2 items until I could start doing damage. Also It was really annoying when in teamfights enemies literally escape with 1 hp!!! Not to mention missing out on a lot of extra damage from Sudden impact and Collector. Anyways that's my take on Shiv Nilah what about you guys what was your experience with Statik Shiv Nilah and from the gameplay you have just seen am I playing the build wrong?
My understanding is that Shiv requires a different playstyle where you try to gain wave prio with the wave clear and rotate for fights/vision. You won't be bursting people with this Shiv, but in a drawn-out fight the damage should be similar as you can fit more aas due to Shiv's attack speed.
@@davidli2642 I see but the issue in the teamfights I'm never able to actually utilise the attack speed due to how much damage there is currently in the game not to mention we are a melee character playing for that one big ult. At the same time I feel like the kill pressure in laning phase is way lower and you literally don't do anything but farm waves...
Have you tried ER rush instead of collector? I tested damages as 2 item powerspike with navori at level 11 vs 70 armor dummy and its same dmg with a basic q-aa-e-aa-e-aa combo and it outdamages from second ER proc onwards, in the end it cancels out the execute passive of collector, and it would be more at higher levels cuz more base ad. Tested it with another 200 armor dummy and it clearly outdps collector against tanky targets because ur q comes up half a second sooner so you can q-3 auto-q every time instead of q-4auto+q. Its also 200 gold cheaper so it would take 8 collector kills to make up for the cost difference, it also feels like it takes turrets faster. Edit: Okay tried it now as 1 item powerspike level 7 against 50 armor dummy and its also same damage with basic combo and also outdamages from second ER proc onwards completely cancelling out the execute that would be 60-65 hp vs another level 7 adc with 1200-1300 hp, Also quick q-aa trades will always do more dmg.
@Rodoloponto I see I have tried ER but it didn't feel as good as collector due to you being way weaker before full item. Also in your testings did you try the combos with R as well because R will do way more damage with Collector than the ER. Not to mention that execute with collector will help you secure a lot more kills and snowball harder though out the teamfights
@@Rodoloponto I see I also saw a Korean Master tier player with 70% win rate building Essence reaver first Item I tried it for myself and it didn't feel as good as collector
Oh my god. This was like watching one of my iron games with the team just terrified of engaging, refusing to do objectives, and playing for kills with an exposed nexus. Well done on basically soloing the whole game 1v9 😂
I think Enryu's builds are tailored to a "safer" Nilah playstyle, where you don't risk it too much in case things go wrong or you get a bad support. I tried to build Statikk 5 games in a row and only won one. It feels like a waste for an aggressive Nilah, especially in low ELO (platinum) where combat is constant and you need the damage. The only good scenario I can think of to build it is to split push. You fall behind, you can't join fights until you scale, so you dedicate yourself to farming and pushing to take towers.
@LordValdomerol I see but even splitpushing your missing out on lethality to do extra damage to turrets and it does not feel like your able to kill the sidelaner as well while splitting so It's quite hard to actually split with this build as well
Statik after scaling nerfs is just dead item Waste of gold thanks to lb and veigar At moment there is alot of better items and kraken is better option most of times (atleast for most of adc champs) I still dont undetstand why most adc players cant build right ltems at right time when adc builds are the very first thing that gets hyper optimized of all roles compared yet they still build statik, rapidfire into runaans then cry why tanks/bruisers/supports/mages are so tanky Yes, this same cursed itemization can be seen at master/grandmaster ranks and im always ready to pull my hair off my head when thid happens Edit: There is nothing wrong how you play nilah with statik but there is already huge optimization what can be done, get rid of statik in favour of any other item and you are good to go
Hello guys I have tried statik shiv build on Nilah and have lost -140 LP while doing so! Not to mention the games I have won I didn't feel like I have any say in them and I just coexisted besides my teammates without being able to influence the fights as much due to being unable to snowball early because I felt like I can never fight enemies even at 1 item powerspike and I had to wait for 2 items until I could start doing damage. Also It was really annoying when in teamfights enemies literally escape with 1 hp!!! Not to mention missing out on a lot of extra damage from Sudden impact and Collector. Anyways that's my take on Shiv Nilah what about you guys what was your experience with Statik Shiv Nilah and from the gameplay you have just seen am I playing the build wrong?
My understanding is that Shiv requires a different playstyle where you try to gain wave prio with the wave clear and rotate for fights/vision. You won't be bursting people with this Shiv, but in a drawn-out fight the damage should be similar as you can fit more aas due to Shiv's attack speed.
@@davidli2642 I see but the issue in the teamfights I'm never able to actually utilise the attack speed due to how much damage there is currently in the game not to mention we are a melee character playing for that one big ult. At the same time I feel like the kill pressure in laning phase is way lower and you literally don't do anything but farm waves...
What are your thoughts on starting Essence Reaver?
@vaynety9153 Hello Vayne! It's not as good due to Nilah having low base AD
Have you tried ER rush instead of collector? I tested damages as 2 item powerspike with navori at level 11 vs 70 armor dummy and its same dmg with a basic q-aa-e-aa-e-aa combo and it outdamages from second ER proc onwards, in the end it cancels out the execute passive of collector, and it would be more at higher levels cuz more base ad.
Tested it with another 200 armor dummy and it clearly outdps collector against tanky targets because ur q comes up half a second sooner so you can q-3 auto-q every time instead of q-4auto+q.
Its also 200 gold cheaper so it would take 8 collector kills to make up for the cost difference, it also feels like it takes turrets faster.
Edit: Okay tried it now as 1 item powerspike level 7 against 50 armor dummy and its also same damage with basic combo and also outdamages from second ER proc onwards completely cancelling out the execute that would be 60-65 hp vs another level 7 adc with 1200-1300 hp, Also quick q-aa trades will always do more dmg.
@Rodoloponto I see I have tried ER but it didn't feel as good as collector due to you being way weaker before full item. Also in your testings did you try the combos with R as well because R will do way more damage with Collector than the ER. Not to mention that execute with collector will help you secure a lot more kills and snowball harder though out the teamfights
@@UrNilahYes components are way weaker, and also ult does a bit more dmg with collector.
@@Rodoloponto I see I also saw a Korean Master tier player with 70% win rate building Essence reaver first Item I tried it for myself and it didn't feel as good as collector
Oh my god. This was like watching one of my iron games with the team just terrified of engaging, refusing to do objectives, and playing for kills with an exposed nexus. Well done on basically soloing the whole game 1v9 😂
@fudgilator Thank you so much!
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@michealman264 EZ
I think Enryu's builds are tailored to a "safer" Nilah playstyle, where you don't risk it too much in case things go wrong or you get a bad support. I tried to build Statikk 5 games in a row and only won one. It feels like a waste for an aggressive Nilah, especially in low ELO (platinum) where combat is constant and you need the damage. The only good scenario I can think of to build it is to split push. You fall behind, you can't join fights until you scale, so you dedicate yourself to farming and pushing to take towers.
@LordValdomerol I see but even splitpushing your missing out on lethality to do extra damage to turrets and it does not feel like your able to kill the sidelaner as well while splitting so It's quite hard to actually split with this build as well
imo its not just splitting, its about shoving the way faster to their tower as well, but ofc full lethal is still a viable build
@@nghia.nguyen39 I see ye I just prefer collector over Shiv
Tell surgical that collector navori dominik core is insane into tanks B)
@DavideGabrieleGiacalone Roger that David
@@UrNilahBtw Nilah I need a full tutorial on how to play vayne matchup, for it's even harder than xayah in late game xd
@@DavideGabrieleGiacalone I got you! You just need to dominate her early game to make sure she doesn't get to that point
Statik after scaling nerfs is just dead item
Waste of gold thanks to lb and veigar
At moment there is alot of better items and kraken is better option most of times (atleast for most of adc champs)
I still dont undetstand why most adc players cant build right ltems at right time when adc builds are the very first thing that gets hyper optimized of all roles compared yet they still build statik, rapidfire into runaans then cry why tanks/bruisers/supports/mages are so tanky
Yes, this same cursed itemization can be seen at master/grandmaster ranks and im always ready to pull my hair off my head when thid happens
Edit: There is nothing wrong how you play nilah with statik but there is already huge optimization what can be done, get rid of statik in favour of any other item and you are good to go
@mozkuthehermit5909 Ye I had same experience when It comes to Statik I didn't feel like the item does much compared to something like Collector
Statik is ASSSSSSSS!!! I agree, challenge me!!
@HashChamp Let's gooooo!!!
of course it was shit, built it twice, collector way better, 70 percent wr diam player
@hugopicasso2 Ye I feel like collector is way better than Shiv as well