Metabo KGS 216 M - Unboxing and First Impressions [0022]
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2019
- We do an #unboxing of the #MetaboKGS216M mitersaw
This is not a #review but I do give my first impressions
This video was made in Norway.
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Excellent saw, have it for month and half so far and it work as it should, it make my wood working much easier.
Great to hear that you are happy with your purchase :D I have already gone through one blade on this one.
Excellent review, thank you
Glad it was helpful! And thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.
Great vid. Thanks.
Glad you liked it. Hope to see you back on the channel :-)
She's a beauty. At first I thought you were going to saw Baby Vader, but then I saw your genius. Very cool effect. I had a chop saw, then I had to sell it because of the move. I still morn the loss of "Choppy"
I tried to saw Vader, but the he drew the lightsaber and I retreated ;-) Lol. I am already addicted to this chopsaw. When I am moving stuff around the workshop and it is not set up, I already feel the pain. There will be a miter station build comming.
Got it today!
Nice! Hope you will be happy with your new saw :D
Great unboxing, thanks...So what is your impression so far in terms of accuracy? Looking at the 254 mm version with Freud Blade...
The accuracy seems good. You have to set it up though. There is no play in the rails. The main drawback is that you need a lot of space behind the saw because of the rails.
Let me know how it works out for you.
@@NomadMakes Thanks for that...some shops running specials on these in my country so I think maybe it is time...have the older kgs 216 right now and must say it is still pretty accurate after years of use and misuse!
Looks like a good saw. How has it been for you? Currently looking to buy a miter saw and considering the Bosch GCM8SJL or the Dewalt DWS777. I'm concerned more with precision and dust collection than I am with cut capacity...
PS Hello from Skåne:)
It has been really good. Dust collection on miter saws are generally quite bad. I would not choose your saw based on that, as you will need to make a shroud or cabinet for it - if you want half decent dust collection. Both of those saws have the vertical grip, which is terrible from an ergonomical point if view. However, the rails that the saw run on, take up a lot more space than you would think. If I were to buy another saw it would be one with a link arm or internal rails, not rails poking out of the back. But that depends on how much space you have. Cheers.
Hi. Is there preset angles to do mitre cuts on this? -45, -22.5 +22.5, +45. Without tilting the head. Tilting the head is a bevel cut
Thanks for the tip on the different names :D Yes, there are several positive stops for the mitre angles. I don't know the exact ones, but there are at 0, 45 and several others. Cheers.
Great video and 1 question. Is the calibration process described in the manual and is the normal degree cut (like 45 degree by turning the saw) accurate too?
Thank you :-) The calibration was not described in the manual. I have heard from several people that the Metabo users manuals are far from impressive, and this one was no exception. When it comes to the vertical cuts - they were ok out of the box. However I need to calibrate the saw now after some heavy use.
@@NomadMakes Can you describe the process? A video would be awsome!
@@DennisHjgaard Calibrating the saw? Tilting or turning? Thanks for commenting by the way ;-)
@@NomadMakes Where you calibrate the vertical angle of the blade. Guess you mean tilting?
@@DennisHjgaard I could make a video, but that would take some time. I may do that, and I like the suggestion a lot. However, if you own this saw and need help - I can assist you 1 on 1 if you want. The tilting mechanism is the easy one. However, the user manual sux.... But I am only a happy amateur, so I give no guarantees ;-)
You are costing me a lot of money these days it seems ;) Thanks for a great review and showing the 90 degree adjustment and laser calibration, the owner's manual isn't exactly easy to read
LOL! Thank you :D Metabo isn't really known for good manuals, rather the opposite. This video wasn't really meant as a review, only my first impressions.
I may do a review on it some day, but I want to do a review on my planer first.
Cheers, and thanks for looking in.
@@NomadMakes Well, seeing that it is a couple of years down the road for you, how about a short 'Second Impressions' video about how it performs in the long run :)
I have a few videos in the pipeline. But if you are considering buying the saw I can answer some questions if you have any.
@@NomadMakes Thanks for offering the service, but it has been in my posession for two days now and have served me on a first project already and I really like the saw
@@CoronaWolle NIce! Then I wish you best of luck with your purchase :D And I hope you get as much joy out of using the saw as I have had.
Hi Nomad Makes, thanks for the nice review, just bought one KGS 216 and I want to calibrate it and I not sure where are the screws to calibrate the saw. Could you be so kind and help me? thanks in advance
Hi! For the side to side tilt, you find the screws in the back. One on either side of the hub that the saw tilts on. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.
@@NomadMakes Thanks, Cheers from Holmestrand
I have just bought the KGSV216 which has an RPM control but I have an issue with it. When I am cutting across a wider board and using the slider, at the end of the cut I can see a step on the cut which is where the final position of the blade is. It looks like there is a flex in it and at the end, the back of the blade cuts in ca 0.5-1mm into the board. It is super annoying. Any idea what could I do, or is this a faulty unit? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi! My saw is perfectly square when not using the sliding mechanism, but it is out by about as much as you describe if I use the slider to max capacity. I belive this is the tolerance you get on this product.
That being said, I have heard people say the blue Bosch have some slop, and even some guys saying the Festool
saw has a bit of give. My workaround is to use my track saw or cabinet saw for wide crosscuts. I know that was not very helpful. But I feel your pain.
@@NomadMakes thank you for your feedback. I really appreciate it. I am sad to hear that this is what it is. I know it is not the highest end product but not even a cheap harbor freight version so I expected more to be honest.
Yeah. It is quite sad that these saws have this issue. But like I said, even very expensive saws may also have some flex. So for very accurate work you most likely need another solution.
What tool did you use to check whether the saw was 90 degrees?
A digital angle gauge. You can find a link in the video description.
Hi there. Have you started using this yet? I have just set mine up and noticed that it just misses the last 1/2mm of the cut - i.e: when you push the blade all the way back, it still doesn't cut a very small amount at the back/bottom of the wood. I had the same problem with another one (same model but older). I haven't got the depth stop engaged so it's not that. Have you had this problem or do you know a solution? Thanks.
Hi! I have used it quite a lot, and I am very happy with it. My first idea would be the depth stop, but as you say, you have checked that. Are there any other locks or stops that may be engaged? Or is the fence correctly set up? Unplug the saw and push it down and back and look if there is a gap. There should not be.
There may be a stop function or something blocking the back and forth motion of the saw.
@@NomadMakes Yeah, well, it's factory setup, so a bit of a mystery. I'll have more of a look at it tomorrow and see what I can see. Strange that the previous one (an older version of the same model) had the same problem, but I'm not 100% sure how that was set up as it wasn't mine and I didn't touch the settings.
@@NomadMakes Haha. So I was just sitting here thinking 'right, this is bugging me now. It's a brand new saw and it shouldn't be doing this. I need to solve this mystery!' So I went and had a look and realised what it was - the rails come with quite a lot of grease on them, and although I'd literally only done about 3 test cuts on it, they were enough to generate a fine sawdust which had stuck to the grease on the rails and built up enough to compact between the end stop and the back of the saw, causing it to not quite go back far enough! Glad I worked that out...Thanks for your help anyway :)
@@vooveks Yes, that was what I was getting at. I get the same, a lot of sawdust collects on the ends of the extending rods. But it has never been such a severe problem. Did you wipe off the storage grease? Anyways. Great to hear that you got the problem sorted out! And good luck with your new saw. What is your next project?
Just bought this (brand new) and the turntable won't swivel... I loosen the handle and press down the red lever, but it's completely locked. . . am I missing something??
Not that I know of. Sounds like the lever doesn't unlock the turntable. Perhaps look underneath and check the mechanism. If not I would return the saw.
Best of luck with the saw. Cheers, and thanks for watching and commenting.
@@NomadMakes Thanks!
No probs. Hope to see you back on the channel ;-)
Fremdeles fornøyd med saga?
Jeg sliter litt med å få 90 grader kapp når jeg bruker hele lengden på teleskoparmene. Har ikke tatt meg tid til å se om det er noe jeg kan gjøre med anlegget, eller om det rett og slette er slakk i armene.
Men nå skal det sies at jeg er veldig optatt av nøyaktigeht i kappene. Kan ikke helt anbefale den til møbelsnekring, men til listing og slikt er den mer enn god nok.
Hva tenker du bruke den til?
wonder can you cut metal pipes etc?
Like the Ridgid? I think that is more down to the type of blade than the saw. So I guess with the right blade I could. But that is just a guess.
@@NomadMakes I've ordered one of these with an extra Freud blade for non-ferrous metals - specifically want to use it to cut things like 25mm aluminium square tubing - which I think will be a breeze...
P A Cool :-) Do you have a link for the blade? Let me know how it works out.
@@NomadMakes topdogtoolshop.co.za/product/freud-lp40m-circular-saw-cutting-blade-for-non-ferrous-metals/
Cool. Thanks.
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Thank you! Support appreciated and given.
[0022]? should it be 2022?
Hehe. Nope. It is my video number 22 :-) As you can tell I am very optimistic as to the number of videos I will produce ;-) Cheers.
Motor is so loud. It will totally destroy your hearing if you don’t use ear defenders.
A massive sonic bang upon pulling the switch! I can’t believe how this is an acceptable noise level. No good for me, such a shame cos the build quality and features of this machine are really good.
Reboxed my new purchase and sending it back for a refund😢
Going to replace my 5year old dewalt 773 with failed rod bearings for the 774 instead. Much quieter and also nice and compact.
I agree and that is a very good point. This saw is very loud. Does that DeWalt saw have a soft start? By the way, from my experience with DeWalt products, I think you will get a good product.
@@NomadMakes The 773 has a much softer start and will accelerate up to speed in the blink of an eye. Running motor is relatively quiet and does not assault the ears like the Metabo
Sounds really nice. My initial hunch is that the DeWalt is a better product. Cool that it is less noisy as well. How is the accuracy of the 773?
@@NomadMakes The rod bearings wore out gradually over time and so the accuracy got worse over time.
To preserve the rod bearings on my new 774 I will be locking off the pull out function for most of its use…
Maybe I’ll be a bit more gentle with it too
Perhaps that will work. Did you consider the Bosch GDL?
What a crappy saw it is. Magnificently. The blade wobbles and those weird noises just kill it. Should have paid 100 euros more for a similar Makita tool.
I don’t have any issues with the blade. However, there are too much slack in the rails and the fence. So I cannot trust the saw to cut 90/45 accurately. Meaning I mostly use the saw for rough cuts now. Unless the cuts are very short.
WHAT????? Metabo...........................unsub and dislike ;-) lol
At least its green... ;-)