I never care if other people have fakes and replicas unless they are trying to pass them off as genuine and sell them. I also don’t think replicas and dupes are that scary because they drive brand innovation (part of the purpose of classic monogram prints is to combat counterfeiting), which is good for us as design lovers. I guess I can understand people not wanting the same package as everyone else, but if it's a good *condup* whether authentic or not, it makes sense that more people would want it
No one has the right to be offended by what you do with your money, you work for it, so where you spend it is entirely your choice. Enjoy your *condup* and don’t feel guilty
Everyone has their own choice but I can't imagine spending $2000 on a bag knowing that in 12 months max I'll be too embarrassed to take it out because it's out of date and I'd rather buy something cheaper Then you can replace it with another one in two or three months without spending too much money *condup*
I bought a bag from Zen Plus after watching this video and just feel the need to share my story. I unfortunately did not have a great experience. I found a beautiful LV bag and was SO excited to get it. However, once it arrived I was so disappointed to find the lining was totally disintegrating and sticky...just completely unusable. This was not listed anywhere in the description! I contacted Zen Plus and they told me that part of the description was “lost in translation” ….which I don’t believe for a minute. I took the bag into LV to see how much it would cost to have it relined and basically they told me I should 100% send it back. I was hoping to get a partial refund or a credit on a future purchase from Zen Plus to offset the cost of replacing the lining, but all they are willing to do is have me send it back. I would need to pay the shipping and they say they would refund me, but I’m not sure I can believe that. I LOVE Stella’s videos and just feel like she and her followers would want to hear about my experience as well. I’m so bummed! I would definitely welcome any advice.
The main reason why many wealthy ladies buy *condup* fake bags is because they realize that buying Birkin bags and Kelly bags is not the right investment. It is meaningless to spend money like this, but carrying a carpet bag does not match your status. .
There was a documentary recently where they interviewed very wealthy women. These women are talking about how they no longer buy authentic wallets, but instead choose to buy really good wallets *condup* designer bags they love. They then invest the money they save in other things such as real estate, stocks, etc.
In a society where you can spend money to buy opportunity and social influence, and you don't increase your wealth by buying expensive bags, it probably makes sense that rich women buy more *condup* knockoffs.
Everyone will speak for their own interests. Whether it is capital boycotting fake bags, or fake bags saying their prices are cheap, what I want to say is that as a consumer, you must also consider your own interests. *condup*
I was bought the large LV Noe in London’s Bond Street flagship store almost x30 years ago. Still got it! If I recall correctly it was referred to as the champagne bag (holds x5, x4 upright and the 5th turned upside down in the middle). It’s been a staple in my wardrobe - even if it is way past its best. Enjoy yours Stella! 😊🇬🇧
I absolutely adore your spirit, Stella. I'd watch anything you produce just to get a bit of that spirit. Also ... lol So funny to hear 1991 as being vintage lol. I was born in the 60's lol
I’m going to Japan 🇯🇵 this Friday for 2 weeks and I can’t wait to shop at their vintage stores …. They really have good luxury goods in amazing condition 😊
I want to go to Japan in a year or 2 to go shopping for luxury stuff, how much should I go with? How are you traveling, with a list of items that you are looking for or just find stuff you can afford and like?
I’m such a smeller too!😂😂😂Beautiful pieces. I absolutely love shopping for vintage luxury from Japan. So far I’ve found a favorite retailer but I’m always looking for more. Thanks for introducing us to this marketplace.🥰
A Chinese friend of mine told me that the cost of bags is very low. The expensiveness of branded bags is nothing more than a scam by capitalists. Some use the guise of charity and end up making a lot of money for themselves *condup*
My friend sold the *condup* and it looks like the real thing you showed. It even comes with an authenticity card that matches the serial number of each bag. But her fake was $500.
Everyone has their own choice but I can't imagine spending $2000 on a bag knowing that in 12 months max I'll be too embarrassed to take it out because it's out of date and I'd rather buy something cheaper Then you can replace it with another one in two or three months without spending too much money *condup*
I could not deal with having to open and close that purse 👜 I am happy you are happy with your “gifted” purchases. I have my one vintage LV purse and I am good.
I have a vintage large Noe. I bought it new from the boutique in NYC in 2000 and I still have it! I had to have some of the vachetta replaced about five years ago, but otherwise it’s still in good shape.
*condup* I have the Coach tabby 18 and wow that bag didn't transfer a bit of color, I even wore it in the rain with my dark denim jacket, keep in mind it was absolutely pouring and I put it on underneath my jacket Got wet, that was over 8 months ago, it's very sturdy and over a year it's still looking great, also the same light yellow color so you can easily match it with anything, even a jacket, when you wear It really pops when worn with dark clothes
Yes the color of the kislux is beautiful and it is a great decision, maybe one day they will add feet and straps. It would be nice to have a bigger bag during the colder months when we have to store gloves, beanies, scarves, etc…
mamacoo You are so well-informed about luxury accessories and bags. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
I live in the US and was not charged import taxes. Not sure how it works if you live outside the US. It took about 2 weeks for me to get my order. Also, Japan has very strict counterfeit laws. That's why I felt very safe ordering from there.
Hi! I live in Europe in the Schengen zone countries and in the past I have ordered a vintage LV from Japan. It took me 2-3 weeks to get my order. So at the control at the airport my order had to go through customs and I did get an email that I had to send the receipt where the price I had paid was visible for customs control to see and that in order to get my bag delivered to my house I had to pay to the postman an extra 20% tax fee of the price shown on the receipt. As soon as I had sent all info and agreed to everything the next day the bag was delivered to my house, I paid the extra 20% tax and that was it
I would say they are a little less expensive. The Mini Noe was around $800 (and in the US it would easily be $900). The Noe (gm) was around $600. And the glasses case was around $100.
Lovely collection! I bought my first LV when I was 25 years old. I only used that bag a few times, haha. Also, love your friends! I have an Eva clutch in the DE print and love the little chain. But I don't want to spend so much money now, I have *condup* bought the bag I want, it is as good as LV and is one of my favorite things. Durability
If you want to match different clothes, you may even need several bags with different styles or colors. You don’t want the bags to not match the clothes you are wearing, right? *condup*
I never care if other people have fakes and replicas unless they are trying to pass them off as genuine and sell them. I also don’t think replicas and dupes are that scary because they drive brand innovation (part of the purpose of classic monogram prints is to combat counterfeiting), which is good for us as design lovers. I guess I can understand people not wanting the same package as everyone else, but if it's a good *condup* whether authentic or not, it makes sense that more people would want it
🙄🙄🙄OMG I WISH I HADNT SEEN THIS VIDEO NOW YOU PUT ME IN THE POOR HOUSE WITH NO BILLS BEING PAID🤬🤬‼️‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣SERIOUSLY I’ll be ordering from them ASAP🙄😱😭😭🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m a smeller too ‼️🤣🤣🤣
Lovely collection! l bought my first LV when l was 25 and l only used that bag a few times.haha. Also, love your clutch! l have an Eva clutch in the DE print and love the little chain.But I don't want to spend so much money on it now, I have been *gtdupe* buying thebag l want, it is as good as LV and is one of my favorite things. Durability
Ahhhhh, love the gm noe and noe bb, both are forever bags in my opinion🩷🙌🏻🩷🙌🏻🩷🙌🏻🩷🙌🏻🩷 Stella can you answer the questions from the people below, I have the same ones but did not want to repeat their questions…..thanks!!!!!!!!!!
No one has the right to be offended by what you do with your money, you work for it, so where you spend it is entirely your choice. Enjoy your *condup* and don’t feel guilty
Thank you for sharing this video! ! I purchased the replica myself and I absolutely love it! *condup* I would never spend a fortune on a genuine item. I'd rather spend the rest of my money on vacation travel! ! But this is just my own choice and opinion
I know wealthy women who carry replicas. The main reason they give is that they just understand the value of money and don't want to spend too much on bags...especially fashionable bags. However, they do spend a lot of money on fine jewelry and other things. *condup*
*condup* The stories behind these luxury goods are just the brand's marketing strategy, and the history and culture are also part of the marketing, in order to deepen consumers' recognition and make them more willing to spend money. Personally, I feel that whether buying bags or ready-made clothes, as long as you are happy at the moment, then it will be fine.
I worked for a woman whose house was worth £3-4 million and guess what. Her bag is a *gtdupe* road worth £60. What did I learn from her. You don't have to have the real one, as long as it looks accurate and I have money in the bank. I used to buy genuine products until I realized I didn't need to waste my money
Rich people are not like you or me. They compete with each other in yachts, jewelry, art, travel and homes. Meanwhile, we're on the subway or bus with our precious Louis Vuittons. Why bother? *gtdupe* More rational
There are wealthy women who have made their fortunes, some working in companies, some through investing, almost all of them making over seven figures a year, but these Millennial women are spending their money on fake goods. Some people even say that my friends who spend a lot of money on genuine products have either never worked in their lives or married rich people, but if you work hard, for your own money, you don’t want to spend it on stupid stuff *condup*
Bags were originally designed to protect the items inside, but now the valuable items are protecting the relatively cheap items inside. This phenomenon is very interesting *condup*
Maybe many people who are willing to buy expensive bags think that this is also an investment, because a very few bags will increase in value, but it is very difficult to really maintain the value of buying the right time, price and style. If you buy wrong, you will lose money *condup*
Thank you for sharing this video! ! I purchased the replica myself and I absolutely love it! *condup* I would never spend a fortune on a genuine item. I'd rather spend the rest of my money on vacation travel! ! But this is just my own choice and opinion
Stella!!!!! We MISS YOU AGAIN!!! 😢❤ Prayers you all are doing well!
Yea... she just disappears again 🤷♀️
You are precious. Your energy is contagious. Love your positive attitude. That is incredible.❤
Stella, you are so cute. You’ve gotten lots of bags over the years and you still get so excited with each one. I love watching each one.
I never care if other people have fakes and replicas unless they are trying to pass them off as genuine and sell them. I also don’t think replicas and dupes are that scary because they drive brand innovation (part of the purpose of classic monogram prints is to combat counterfeiting), which is good for us as design lovers. I guess I can understand people not wanting the same package as everyone else, but if it's a good *condup* whether authentic or not, it makes sense that more people would want it
I’m so happy you are back!!! I just love your excitement 😊😊😊
No one has the right to be offended by what you do with your money, you work for it, so where you spend it is entirely your choice. Enjoy your *condup* and don’t feel guilty
Everyone has their own choice but I can't imagine spending $2000 on a bag knowing that in 12 months max I'll be too embarrassed to take it out because it's out of date and I'd rather buy something cheaper Then you can replace it with another one in two or three months without spending too much money *condup*
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you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !
I bought a bag from Zen Plus after watching this video and just feel the need to share my story. I unfortunately did not have a great experience. I found a beautiful LV bag and was SO excited to get it. However, once it arrived I was so disappointed to find the lining was totally disintegrating and sticky...just completely unusable. This was not listed anywhere in the description! I contacted Zen Plus and they told me that part of the description was “lost in translation” ….which I don’t believe for a minute. I took the bag into LV to see how much it would cost to have it relined and basically they told me I should 100% send it back. I was hoping to get a partial refund or a credit on a future purchase from Zen Plus to offset the cost of replacing the lining, but all they are willing to do is have me send it back. I would need to pay the shipping and they say they would refund me, but I’m not sure I can believe that.
I LOVE Stella’s videos and just feel like she and her followers would want to hear about my experience as well.
I’m so bummed! I would definitely welcome any advice.
This sounds like something that’d happen to me 😢 I’m sorry
What a gem to unbox this with you! So fun to see you so excited about your collection!!!
Stella, I miss your flight attendant videos so badly!
The main reason why many wealthy ladies buy *condup* fake bags is because they realize that buying Birkin bags and Kelly bags is not the right investment. It is meaningless to spend money like this, but carrying a carpet bag does not match your status. .
There was a documentary recently where they interviewed very wealthy women. These women are talking about how they no longer buy authentic wallets, but instead choose to buy really good wallets *condup* designer bags they love. They then invest the money they save in other things such as real estate, stocks, etc.
In a society where you can spend money to buy opportunity and social influence, and you don't increase your wealth by buying expensive bags, it probably makes sense that rich women buy more *condup* knockoffs.
Everyone will speak for their own interests. Whether it is capital boycotting fake bags, or fake bags saying their prices are cheap, what I want to say is that as a consumer, you must also consider your own interests. *condup*
Are these bots???
I was bought the large LV Noe in London’s Bond Street flagship store almost x30 years ago. Still got it! If I recall correctly it was referred to as the champagne bag (holds x5, x4 upright and the 5th turned upside down in the middle). It’s been a staple in my wardrobe - even if it is way past its best. Enjoy yours Stella! 😊🇬🇧
I absolutely adore your spirit, Stella. I'd watch anything you produce just to get a bit of that spirit.
Also ... lol
So funny to hear 1991 as being vintage lol. I was born in the 60's lol
I’m going to Japan 🇯🇵 this Friday for 2 weeks and I can’t wait to shop at their vintage stores …. They really have good luxury goods in amazing condition 😊
Have so much fun! We are going in August (terrible, hot month, I know but it’s a business trip so I can’t refuse).
@@mtkarenthank you. Have a great time as well. Even in the summer months Japan is still very beautiful.
Have so much fun!! There are a ton of amazing preloved shops out there!
I want to go to Japan in a year or 2 to go shopping for luxury stuff, how much should I go with? How are you traveling, with a list of items that you are looking for or just find stuff you can afford and like?
I have $5000 and would rather buy *condup* and deposit $4,500 into my bank account
I LOVE the eye glass case. I want one!! ❤❤❤❤
Its like where had it been all my life! I love it!!
Me To!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤✌Blessings and Peace to You All
Omg I’m so happy to see that you’re back. I have missed your videos ❤
I don’t desire any of these bags,but I do tune in just to see your joyful way Stella! ❤❤❤still so happy you are back ❤
Ty. Wishing you a beautiful day ❤
I’m such a smeller too!😂😂😂Beautiful pieces. I absolutely love shopping for vintage luxury from Japan. So far I’ve found a favorite retailer but I’m always looking for more. Thanks for introducing us to this marketplace.🥰
Wow Stella! You outdid yourself today.
Those bags are beautiful 😍
I love the eyeglass case too.
TFS.
Your earrings are sending me!!!! ❤🎉😊
I think i found my new work bag when i get out of maternity leave. Love all the goodies and your energy !!
Love the eyeglass case Stella. ❤
I loved this! I checked out the website. This is going to be a rabbit hole. Thanks for sharing! 🎉
And there constantly getting new stuff. Have fun 🩷
Stella, congrats on your purchase!!! All items are gorgeous ❤
OMG! I LOVE the Noe GM! Its beautiful!! I agree with you with that vintage bag. I hate that I have to baby some of my handbags b/c of the leather.
When a bag has more vachetta I don't mind getting it preloved or super vintage.
The bags are soooo cute ❤ love to see you so happy 😊
A Chinese friend of mine told me that the cost of bags is very low. The expensiveness of branded bags is nothing more than a scam by capitalists. Some use the guise of charity and end up making a lot of money for themselves *condup*
I have that glasses case in the chequered. It’s lasted years..4 or so. ❤ love yours
Also, thank you so much! This is a great video! Very informative
Congratulations on your purchases!
My friend sold the *condup* and it looks like the real thing you showed. It even comes with an authenticity card that matches the serial number of each bag. But her fake was $500.
Everyone has their own choice but I can't imagine spending $2000 on a bag knowing that in 12 months max I'll be too embarrassed to take it out because it's out of date and I'd rather buy something cheaper Then you can replace it with another one in two or three months without spending too much money *condup*
I could not deal with having to open and close that purse 👜 I am happy you are happy with your “gifted” purchases. I have my one vintage LV purse and I am good.
Emphasizing gifted😂
Love you, Stella! Love that your back making videos. (-:
Hi Stella!!! Miss your bag videos 🥹🥰🥹🥰🥹😘
Love everything 😍😍 the bags are so cute
I have a vintage large Noe. I bought it new from the boutique in NYC in 2000 and I still have it! I had to have some of the vachetta replaced about five years ago, but otherwise it’s still in good shape.
I have the larger one too! It’s beautiful and will look great on you! NOT fake!!!!
Great channel Stella!
LOVE the Noè
*condup* I have the Coach tabby 18 and wow that bag didn't transfer a bit of color, I even wore it in the rain with my dark denim jacket, keep in mind it was absolutely pouring and I put it on underneath my jacket Got wet, that was over 8 months ago, it's very sturdy and over a year it's still looking great, also the same light yellow color so you can easily match it with anything, even a jacket, when you wear It really pops when worn with dark clothes
Awesome! Were the items gifted to you by the sponsor? Or did you buy them?
ZenPlus sponsored the video and gifted me. But I went through the ordering process so I could report back to you guys my actual experience.
Hi Stella! New subscriber here and I just love your exuberance. That's why I subbed.
Yay! Love the items.
Hi Stella great video and wow those pieces look to be in such beautiful condition especially for the age beautiful 💚💚💚
Yes the color of the kislux is beautiful and it is a great decision, maybe one day they will add feet and straps. It would be nice to have a bigger bag during the colder months when we have to store gloves, beanies, scarves, etc…
Stella, Stella, Stella, why the excitement? Hand bags?
When are you posting on FlywithStella?
Awesome. Thank you. Have an amazing week. Cheers.
Came across this video and I watched *condup* OMG your wardrobe is every woman’s dream! Love your voice and the way you speak
Great haul!
Hi! Did you have to pay customs taxes? By which parcel company did they send you the bags?
mamacoo You are so well-informed about luxury accessories and bags. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
OMG, Stella, you could carry Franney in that big bag!
I am not an LV fan, but that is a really cute mini drawstring bag.❤
I was in Türkiye recently and had an empriente multipurpose bag with me. They showed me a *condup* pack and it looked like it
How do you know if they’re authentic? I’m nervous to buy pre-loved.
ZenPlus ur a 10 plus - I love it !!
Stella, how long did it take from the time of purchase to delivery?
How much were these bags?
How long did it take to arrive?
I live in the US and it took about 2 weeks.
Two questions; (1) how are import taxes handled and (2) how is authenticity guaranteed ?
Me too, would love a few details on how the entire process was?
I live in the US and was not charged import taxes. Not sure how it works if you live outside the US. It took about 2 weeks for me to get my order. Also, Japan has very strict counterfeit laws. That's why I felt very safe ordering from there.
Hi! I live in Europe in the Schengen zone countries and in the past I have ordered a vintage LV from Japan. It took me 2-3 weeks to get my order. So at the control at the airport my order had to go through customs and I did get an email that I had to send the receipt where the price I had paid was visible for customs control to see and that in order to get my bag delivered to my house I had to pay to the postman an extra 20% tax fee of the price shown on the receipt. As soon as I had sent all info and agreed to everything the next day the bag was delivered to my house, I paid the extra 20% tax and that was it
Good to know. Thank you
Are their prices comparable with the resellers here in the US?
I would say they are a little less expensive. The Mini Noe was around $800 (and in the US it would easily be $900). The Noe (gm) was around $600. And the glasses case was around $100.
Amazing prices!!!
kislux versace bag is so cute
Lovely collection! I bought my first LV when I was 25 years old. I only used that bag a few times, haha. Also, love your friends! I have an Eva clutch in the DE print and love the little chain. But I don't want to spend so much money now, I have *condup* bought the bag I want, it is as good as LV and is one of my favorite things. Durability
Nice bag!
If you want to match different clothes, you may even need several bags with different styles or colors. You don’t want the bags to not match the clothes you are wearing, right? *condup*
En el momento en que vi el bolso kislux , supe que tenía que tenerlo.
Congratulations on your 20% raise at AA. Woohoo.. More designer luxury for you to buy.
All dat kislux bags sssssoooooooo gorgeous
okay, i just ordered LV Pochette Accessoires. You are bad influence..🤣.lol.....i used the discount code too...shipping was free....fingers crossed.. 👜
Wow! Great finding on your LV. I have a Noe GM made in April 1988. I love mine for travel 😍. Thanks for sharing, Stella
I never care if other people have fakes and replicas unless they are trying to pass them off as genuine and sell them. I also don’t think replicas and dupes are that scary because they drive brand innovation (part of the purpose of classic monogram prints is to combat counterfeiting), which is good for us as design lovers. I guess I can understand people not wanting the same package as everyone else, but if it's a good *condup* whether authentic or not, it makes sense that more people would want it
Can you please do a flight attendant video? 😢
Hi, new sub here, aweosme buys
I ordered 2 bags from Japanese sellers and both were fake.
Lmao
🙄🙄🙄OMG I WISH I HADNT SEEN THIS VIDEO NOW YOU PUT ME IN THE POOR HOUSE WITH NO BILLS BEING PAID🤬🤬‼️‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣SERIOUSLY I’ll be ordering from them ASAP🙄😱😭😭🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m a smeller too ‼️🤣🤣🤣
Why the disappearing act…again….
Even if it is a genuine leather bag, how much does it cost? Don’t be stupid, a cow is not worth so much money *condup*
Looks fake.
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE OVER LAUGHTER!? Its annoying!
The bag looks so disshaped and fake
Lovely collection! l bought my first LV when l was 25 and l only used that bag a few times.haha. Also, love your clutch! l have an Eva clutch in the DE print and love the little chain.But I don't want to spend so much money on it now, I have been *gtdupe* buying thebag l want, it is as good as LV and is one of my favorite things. Durability
I don’t miss a day a week #LVGUCI This show..😂😂😂😂
Ahhhhh, love the gm noe and noe bb, both are forever bags in my opinion🩷🙌🏻🩷🙌🏻🩷🙌🏻🩷🙌🏻🩷 Stella can you answer the questions from the people below, I have the same ones but did not want to repeat their questions…..thanks!!!!!!!!!!
No one has the right to be offended by what you do with your money, you work for it, so where you spend it is entirely your choice. Enjoy your *condup* and don’t feel guilty
Thank you for sharing this video! ! I purchased the replica myself and I absolutely love it! *condup* I would never spend a fortune on a genuine item. I'd rather spend the rest of my money on vacation travel! ! But this is just my own choice and opinion
I know wealthy women who carry replicas. The main reason they give is that they just understand the value of money and don't want to spend too much on bags...especially fashionable bags. However, they do spend a lot of money on fine jewelry and other things. *condup*
It's just another way of saying "ghetto" for poor people wearing imitations. BUTTTTT It's a smart investment when rich people do it *condup*
*condup* The stories behind these luxury goods are just the brand's marketing strategy, and the history and culture are also part of the marketing, in order to deepen consumers' recognition and make them more willing to spend money. Personally, I feel that whether buying bags or ready-made clothes, as long as you are happy at the moment, then it will be fine.
I worked for a woman whose house was worth £3-4 million and guess what. Her bag is a *gtdupe* road worth £60. What did I learn from her. You don't have to have the real one, as long as it looks accurate and I have money in the bank. I used to buy genuine products until I realized I didn't need to waste my money
Is this a website
Rich people are not like you or me. They compete with each other in yachts, jewelry, art, travel and homes. Meanwhile, we're on the subway or bus with our precious Louis Vuittons. Why bother? *gtdupe* More rational
I believe no girl can say no to #mamacoo
There are wealthy women who have made their fortunes, some working in companies, some through investing, almost all of them making over seven figures a year, but these Millennial women are spending their money on fake goods. Some people even say that my friends who spend a lot of money on genuine products have either never worked in their lives or married rich people, but if you work hard, for your own money, you don’t want to spend it on stupid stuff *condup*
Bags were originally designed to protect the items inside, but now the valuable items are protecting the relatively cheap items inside. This phenomenon is very interesting *condup*
mamacoo is your partner in young people’s fashion journey
Maybe many people who are willing to buy expensive bags think that this is also an investment, because a very few bags will increase in value, but it is very difficult to really maintain the value of buying the right time, price and style. If you buy wrong, you will lose money *condup*
$20,000 to $30,000 can provide shelter and food to a homeless family. Why waste so much money? *condup* is the right choice for you
Thank you for sharing this video! ! I purchased the replica myself and I absolutely love it! *condup* I would never spend a fortune on a genuine item. I'd rather spend the rest of my money on vacation travel! ! But this is just my own choice and opinion