Our Billie throws all bucks, too. We’ve introduced a new Billie to our flock. So far, he hasn’t had a chance to cover any does, as the older buck is the herd sire and the does love him.
I was told by a couple people that if you let your buck cover your doe just the first encounter you should have a doe, I tried it with my neighbors buck who throws nothing but bucks if he stays with the girls for the whole time. I got out of 9 babies 3 were bucks and those were bred multiple times, the ones with the does were all bred once. Hope you have a great day.
That's very interesting. I believe we let him run with these does for a month, so it's very possible that played a factor. We normally just catch the heat and hand breed, but this time we didn't.
Yep higher does, I have seen it work. You have to catch your doe on the first day of heat and within the first 10 hours of the first day. I've let him mount 3 times then done. And had great success all but the buck I paid the most for lol
I’ve heard that & seen it work for the channel “Weed ‘em & Reap”. It must be annoying to do because they didn’t stick with it after it worked the 1st time
8 bucks, 1 doe?! You should sit down and read him the goat slow cooker book. XD That is crazy, he'd definitely be getting sold if he was here. I had a friend who had a buck who NEVER threw a doe until they year they decided to sell him. I think they got one or two. But they used him for 3 years, and every other kid was a buck. Wild.
Read him the goat slow cooker book! LOL 😂 We are definitely going to hang on to him until we see how his doe kids improve production. Some of his little bucks look mighty fancy too. We have two more does that will kid from him and we hand bred those so we are hoping to get a better ratio.
Sure! I'm no math expert and could be wrong. But I took 50/50 odds (the probability of each kid to be a buck or doe), and multiplied them to the power of 8 (the number of the first 8 births). That gives a result of 0.003906, which, when converted to a percentage is 0.39%. This would be "less than 4 in a thousand" odds that we could get 8 in a row that are the same gender. I'm happy to be corrected if I misunderstand probabilities and/or how to calculate them.
So I ASSUME the odds of getting a buck or doe are 50%. But with the next "generation", the odds of them being the same sex drops by half, to 25%. Each successive kidding adds to the next, and you are cutting the chances in half of the string continuing. So it works out like this: 1st: 50%, 2nd: 25%, 3rd: 12.5%, 4th: 6.25%, 5th: 3.125%, 6th: 1.5625%, 7th: 0.78125%, and finally 8th: 0.390625%. The odds of every kid being either gender is 50/50, but the chances of the string continuing with the same gender cuts in half with every iteration.
This season our four does gave us 9 doelings and 3 bucklings, with one doe having 5 kids. Doelings sell up here for over double the price of bucklings, so that was awesome.
I have seen that in our heard as well. The best I could come up with is extreme heat here for all but 2 months of the year so being bred during our winter cold or the extreme heat. We have seen a run like that with more than 1 buck producing the same sex in his little harem.
I’ve seen that on other goat channels, if you keep the buck with the does, you get bucks, but if you do only one breeding and then remove the buck, you get does.
@@plumbushfarm fascinating how nature works things out. I am guessing that in the wild, one buck has several does, but if there is a “sneak” breeding by another buck, there is a higher chance of getting a buck so they can mix up the genetics going forward. Thereby - more breeding = more bucks.
I have had bucks that I used on 18 does, great bloodlines registered, only bucks for 4 years. And I only used him on a few does my 5th year, all does, go figure
Our goats are used primarily for milk production. We drink their milk and make cheese and butter from it. They are a perfect animal for a small homestead because as you mentioned they are great at clearing underbrush and weeds, but can still provide milk for a family. Cows on the other hand, require much more space and feed.
Now you sent me down a bunny trail. It looks like there is some research that indicates the ph level of the female can produce a more favorable environment for male vs female sperm. Of course the sex of the kid would still be determined by the sperm from the buck. Thanks for pointing out another factor that could influence gender!
*IF you're "breeding for meat" **_OR_** "breeding for pets," **_THEN_** you're doing well. **_HOWEVER,_** if you're aiming to increase your herd numbers, you'll be **_NOT_** so happy with all those "hairy-legged, boy-o" offspring! (You've also **_MAJORLY_** "NAILED IT" for CUTENESS!)* 👍😊 *Liked the suggestions regarding time-limiting breeding access, even though the results DO sound "anecdotal" rather than "scientific." Have you queried your vet at all? They **_SHOULD_** be an excellent source of Scientific knowledge, as opposed to anecdotes.* *THANK. YOU SO **_VERY,_** VERY MUCH FOR USING CORRECT ENGLISH! **_WHEN_** I was **_SO_** PLEASANTLY SURPRISED to read (in your "Description" section), that there were "...FEWER than..." (Odds of these births), as opposed to the FAR MORE COMMON, BUT **_INACCURATELY_** PARSED, "... "LESS" THAN..." (GRRR!!!), I nearly **_WEPT_** from joy! YOU ARE A WELL-EDUCATED PERSON, & I would rejoice to be your neighbor!!!* 👍👵👍
WOW! This comment made my day. I (Gabe) enjoy writing and do my best to use correct grammar and punctuation. Yes, our results in this video series are more anecdotal than scientific, but we still appreciate the difference! Thanks for watching and commenting!
We have sold bucklings for meat, yes. We processed one for ourselves last year and look forward to doing that again if we have extra bucklings. Which we seem to have plenty this year. 😏
We really want to add this buck's genetics to our herd, so we will likely use him for some of our does again next year. We have two does due this week, so hopefully they help even things up. We'll see!
@@plumbushfarm I do so wish you luck. I've had triplet bucks two years in a row among the ones sprinkled into other triplet and twin sets. I gravitate to the boys because they seem to have more personality, especially when young. But they sure aren't filling the milk bucket😅. Crossing my fingers you get some pretty, healthy does.
I assume you intend this as an inflammatory remark, but I'll reply anyway. We are Christians, who are a part of the Mennonite culture and community. While the word culture does START with the same letters as the word cult, we don't actually fit the definition of a cult very well at all.
Hi saw you on my homepage and came to look, liked and rang your bell. Hope to make new friends. I love gardening, farming and all animals. Wow! 8 bucks in a row is unheard of! Nice!
hey, you’re a dad again. All bucks. he bleats - Maaaa. hey, everyone!! i did it again!!! LOL 😂🐐🐐🐐🌷🌱
Wife births the farm animals, builds A fence, likely handles all household duties, and probably sews her own clothes!
AND she cuts his hair!😮😊
She's amazing.
Thanks for the video, the kids(baby goats) are so cute but the little one that steals the show is your daughter, what a blessing . God Bless
Thanks so much!
Our Billie throws all bucks, too. We’ve introduced a new Billie to our flock. So far, he hasn’t had a chance to cover any does, as the older buck is the herd sire and the does love him.
We're looking forward to seeing if the two we hand bred to him are more likely to have does. What kind of goats do you have?
I was told by a couple people that if you let your buck cover your doe just the first encounter you should have a doe, I tried it with my neighbors buck who throws nothing but bucks if he stays with the girls for the whole time. I got out of 9 babies 3 were bucks and those were bred multiple times, the ones with the does were all bred once. Hope you have a great day.
That's very interesting. I believe we let him run with these does for a month, so it's very possible that played a factor. We normally just catch the heat and hand breed, but this time we didn't.
Yep higher does, I have seen it work. You have to catch your doe on the first day of heat and within the first 10 hours of the first day. I've let him mount 3 times then done. And had great success all but the buck I paid the most for lol
I’ve heard that & seen it work for the channel “Weed ‘em & Reap”. It must be annoying to do because they didn’t stick with it after it worked the 1st time
@@jaynedavis3388 if you watch part 2 you will see it did seem to work. Though with a very small sample size.
So adorable i would have em all in the house with little sweaters and booties!
They are a lot of fun. Thanks for watching!
8 kids. All boys. A baseball team❤
Now how to teach them.... 🤣
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing!🐐
Enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing. You should name that little doe Halleluiah. LOL!! 😊
Not a bad idea!
That’s really cool Thank you friend
Congratulations on your new daughter! 😁
Aw, so adorable and beautiful
Linx is gorgeous! I guess he has fast swimmers!
He's a really nice looking buck. We are pretty pleased with the few daughters we did get this year. 😇
So cute!
Year of the buck for u guys ❤
For sure!
8 bucks, 1 doe?! You should sit down and read him the goat slow cooker book. XD That is crazy, he'd definitely be getting sold if he was here. I had a friend who had a buck who NEVER threw a doe until they year they decided to sell him. I think they got one or two. But they used him for 3 years, and every other kid was a buck. Wild.
Read him the goat slow cooker book! LOL 😂 We are definitely going to hang on to him until we see how his doe kids improve production. Some of his little bucks look mighty fancy too. We have two more does that will kid from him and we hand bred those so we are hoping to get a better ratio.
@@plumbushfarm Yes, some of those babies are super flashy! Maybe just shake your fist at him and look at him threateningly this year. 🤣
Time to get use a new buck for breeding. Good thing you have plenty to pick from! LOL!!!!
We do have plenty to choose from😂
The buck says no problem, Ill help you out again as soon as I can. I DO LIKE BILLY BABIES THOUGH😊😊😊😊😊
LOL 🤣
Very true. My Nigerian Dwarf buck was always happy to comply!
... 4 in 1000.... Could we have a Perusal of the Workings Out 😂😂😂😂
Sure! I'm no math expert and could be wrong. But I took 50/50 odds (the probability of each kid to be a buck or doe), and multiplied them to the power of 8 (the number of the first 8 births). That gives a result of 0.003906, which, when converted to a percentage is 0.39%. This would be "less than 4 in a thousand" odds that we could get 8 in a row that are the same gender. I'm happy to be corrected if I misunderstand probabilities and/or how to calculate them.
So I ASSUME the odds of getting a buck or doe are 50%. But with the next "generation", the odds of them being the same sex drops by half, to 25%. Each successive kidding adds to the next, and you are cutting the chances in half of the string continuing. So it works out like this: 1st: 50%, 2nd: 25%, 3rd: 12.5%, 4th: 6.25%, 5th: 3.125%, 6th: 1.5625%, 7th: 0.78125%, and finally 8th: 0.390625%. The odds of every kid being either gender is 50/50, but the chances of the string continuing with the same gender cuts in half with every iteration.
This season our four does gave us 9 doelings and 3 bucklings, with one doe having 5 kids. Doelings sell up here for over double the price of bucklings, so that was awesome.
That's really cool. We've had quads a number of times but never quintuplets!
Time to get a new buck.😅😂
Be sure to watch part 2!
What do you do with all those precious babies?
It’s really nice to see the love and care surrounding this family and farm
Unfortunately we can't keep them all. Some go to other breeders, and some to the pet market. Some end up going to the sale barn when necessary.
Cool looking babies👍🤓👍
Thank you!
❤❤ so adorable 😍💕💕💕💕😊
❤❤❤ so so gorgeous!😊😊😊😇😇😇🥰🥰🥰.
She's kidding?? I thought she was serious. 🥰🥰🥰
Seriously kidding!
@@plumbushfarm 😆😆😆
I have seen that in our heard as well. The best I could come up with is extreme heat here for all but 2 months of the year so being bred during our winter cold or the extreme heat. We have seen a run like that with more than 1 buck producing the same sex in his little harem.
Interesting! I've wondered too if extremes in temperature at breeding season could influence the outcome of does vs buck kids.
Very nice video
Thank you!
A productive dad 🤣🤣
Sure is!
I’ve seen that on other goat channels, if you keep the buck with the does, you get bucks, but if you do only one breeding and then remove the buck, you get does.
It does seem to work based on our small sample size.
@@plumbushfarm fascinating how nature works things out. I am guessing that in the wild, one buck has several does, but if there is a “sneak” breeding by another buck, there is a higher chance of getting a buck so they can mix up the genetics going forward. Thereby - more breeding = more bucks.
I have had bucks that I used on 18 does, great bloodlines registered, only bucks for 4 years. And I only used him on a few does my 5th year, all does, go figure
That's just how it goes, isn't it? 🤣
What are goats used for other than clearing underbrush?
Our goats are used primarily for milk production. We drink their milk and make cheese and butter from it. They are a perfect animal for a small homestead because as you mentioned they are great at clearing underbrush and weeds, but can still provide milk for a family. Cows on the other hand, require much more space and feed.
Just investigate: it is the acidity of the doe that determines the sex of the baby - not the buck. .... as far as I know..
Now you sent me down a bunny trail. It looks like there is some research that indicates the ph level of the female can produce a more favorable environment for male vs female sperm. Of course the sex of the kid would still be determined by the sperm from the buck. Thanks for pointing out another factor that could influence gender!
*IF you're "breeding for meat" **_OR_** "breeding for pets," **_THEN_** you're doing well. **_HOWEVER,_** if you're aiming to increase your herd numbers, you'll be **_NOT_** so happy with all those "hairy-legged, boy-o" offspring! (You've also **_MAJORLY_** "NAILED IT" for CUTENESS!)* 👍😊
*Liked the suggestions regarding time-limiting breeding access, even though the results DO sound "anecdotal" rather than "scientific." Have you queried your vet at all? They **_SHOULD_** be an excellent source of Scientific knowledge, as opposed to anecdotes.*
*THANK. YOU SO **_VERY,_** VERY MUCH FOR USING CORRECT ENGLISH! **_WHEN_** I was **_SO_** PLEASANTLY SURPRISED to read (in your "Description" section), that there were "...FEWER than..." (Odds of these births), as opposed to the FAR MORE COMMON, BUT **_INACCURATELY_** PARSED, "... "LESS" THAN..." (GRRR!!!), I nearly **_WEPT_** from joy! YOU ARE A WELL-EDUCATED PERSON, & I would rejoice to be your neighbor!!!*
👍👵👍
WOW! This comment made my day. I (Gabe) enjoy writing and do my best to use correct grammar and punctuation. Yes, our results in this video series are more anecdotal than scientific, but we still appreciate the difference! Thanks for watching and commenting!
They can eat cedar?
Yes they will eat the greenery as high as they can reach. This spring when the sap was running and the bark was soft, they started stripping bark off.
Time to get rid of that buck lol not good to keep on the farm that’s amazing so many boys lol 😂 😂😂 lots of meat right there…..
We think we'll give him a few more chances, he has some pretty nice genetics:)
He should be helping the lady, not just tske the video. That is the easier part, in my opinion.
Not sure which part you mean?
But why? She looks very comfortable helping the goat momma's.
It could be overwhelming to the mother goat, to have both humans so close to her babies.
@@plumbushfarm You might need to name the father dinner. It is the father that determines if the babies are male or female
@@eveadame1059 🤣
Do you sell the bucks for meat?
We have sold bucklings for meat, yes. We processed one for ourselves last year and look forward to doing that again if we have extra bucklings. Which we seem to have plenty this year. 😏
You need to use a different buck. What horrible luck to have all bucks but one.
We really want to add this buck's genetics to our herd, so we will likely use him for some of our does again next year. We have two does due this week, so hopefully they help even things up. We'll see!
@@plumbushfarm I do so wish you luck. I've had triplet bucks two years in a row among the ones sprinkled into other triplet and twin sets. I gravitate to the boys because they seem to have more personality, especially when young. But they sure aren't filling the milk bucket😅. Crossing my fingers you get some pretty, healthy does.
@@Joda2765 Thanks! We're getting very close to the last two does kidding, and both are bred to Lynx. We plan to follow up with a video on them!
Use a different buck.
What cult is this with the blue hat
I assume you intend this as an inflammatory remark, but I'll reply anyway. We are Christians, who are a part of the Mennonite culture and community. While the word culture does START with the same letters as the word cult, we don't actually fit the definition of a cult very well at all.
Hi saw you on my homepage and came to look, liked and rang your bell. Hope to make new friends. I love gardening, farming and all animals. Wow! 8 bucks in a row is unheard of! Nice!
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