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I mean... Megaman fans might get something in May, since JKB said "May is just a month", so we might have hope for 2024, also Megaman X8 Demake might came out this year :D
@@Rankaquion you are right, what goes on the internet says on the internet. But it would still be a lot of work to make this game and he wouldn't get paid for any of it
@@Euclidiuss they'd never get paid anyway, even if nintendo was more chill with remakes they'd shut it down in an instant if profit was made off of it, as pretty much any other company would
21:40 Regarding why many didnt talk about it, ive heard that people were scared of publicizing information specifically because nintendo tends to dmca fan games. So I myself have commented on reddit about it but under the pretext that its basically a secret
I hope that this remake comes out at some point, judging from this video, i have hope for this remake. From the sprite work to the how the areas look is amazing
I hope too. It looks amazing, and as a Super Metroid fanboy, this feels like a fever dream. But to be fair fan games are long (I've been waiting on a Zelda fan game since 2013 xD). Still, wishing the devs good luck and good success.
Kenji and I are old friends so this video was pretty wild to find. While FSMR may be dead, a lot of the old Metroid fangame community that he and I were a part of are still around and still make things, but I think by this point everyone's old enough to realize that remaking Super isn't worth it. I'm glad this video exists, but I do wish there had been some mention of Metroid: Fan Mission, which was where a lot of FSMR stuff (and other Metroid fangames, including AM2R) was first published.
Yeah Super Metroid is already one of the biggest Metroidvanias to date, making something that expands on that would mean it's either Hollow Knight levels of big or possibly even bigger..... which sounds crazy. The most realistic thing you could do with super is create the game again with reworked controls and bosses, as well as maybe some new bosses to throw in the mix but nothing too crazy.
Personally, I think all that the game needs is a bit of modern polish. Smoother animations, cleaner sprites, etc. It's jam packed as it is. As it is, I consider it one of the three best late SNES games, along with Donkey Kong Country and Chrono Trigger.
A game from 94', 30 years ago, and still holds fine The main problems of that game are solved by romhacks and patches, like Project Base (more friendly movement and a better menu, or widescreen patches) I hope that, if Nintendo does a Remake, it takes the time to make it very good and polished, Super Metroid quality was insanely good in his epoch
I'm surprised I've never heard of this! It does look super cool, tho look at how ambitious it seemed to be (especially artistically), it's not surprising that this never came to fruition.
we probably never heard of it because nintendo probably took it down while it was bieng made, whilst it was non profit...and it was probably with full original assets too...which isupsetting, we get beautiful successful fangames bu loving and caring fans, and what does nintendo do? Spit in the fan's face and take it down with a C&D...it's disgusting and utterly disrespectful and dishonorable to the community and fanbase... #wheresthefairusenintendo
Super was my first Metroid game, I tried it on a whim with the Switch online service and fell head over heels with it. It would be amazing to get a full remake or remaster or just about anything really. What Kenji and the team were doing looked so cool! Hope he’s finding success with whatever he’s up to now
NOTZ for a fan remake tey cant...tats calld copyright my guy 😔 even if chu take insperation fwom w.es work..and add ontu it at the ebd of the day its STILL the OG holders pwoperty despite if chu dev. chur own take intu the matter bc chur basicwy useing wat was alrdy tere and just adding chur own creativeness tu it 😔
Worth noting: Metroid 1 and 2 were both 8-bit games that could use an update. Super Metroid was a late 16-bit title, there's not much you could do to pretty it up. I'd personally just port it to the Metroid Fusion engine and leave it at that.
Wow I followed FSMR since its revival a few years back and checked up on the blog a few times every year, but after COVID I forgot about it ngl. I had no idea there was a “final” blog post last year, sucks to find out this way but happy it got some recognition with this video.
As much as I heavily appreciate them working on a remake, I feel like using the zero mission style again for super metroid would have made it not feel like super metroid. The movement and momentum in super is so unique compared to any other 2D metroid and a remake that didn't mirror that 1:1 would feel very strange. Same with the art style and samus in particular, her body being taller and the floatier movement letting the game showcase her sprite in detail moving around in segments. Having zero mission or a mild variant of the ZM sprite would make the game look not quite right. Super is one of those games where I'm not sure a remake is even needed. M1 and 2 both had heavily restricted/archaic design and while you could say the same on a few things in super, it holds up amazingly well even now.
Genuinely, I don't think you could remake Super without downgrading it. The only positive change they could really make would be to find some alternative to scrolling through all your weapons with the select button
a super metroid remake with dread gameplay would honestly be sick as fuck. tbh i kinda wanna see all the 2d games recreated with the same style for consistency's sake
No idea how I hadn't heard about this before. Sad that it's just sitting unfinished. I hope that they do at least get their own game out and that it's very good.
What always scares me of a Super Metroid remake, and I feel is something people don't really talk too much about, so maybe that's just me, is the game losing what made it special. Recent 2D metroids pride themselves in crafting an agile, fast-paced, tight controlled Samus that wrecks through enemy forces. They have also worked towards making the games so accesible, you have to actively seek to get lost instead of getting lost naturally. Those two things would hurt Super Metroid, I feel, as the game seeks to let the player get lost and figure things out on their own. You're Samus, a lone bounty hunter in a hostile planet she once called home. Observe the walls, the vegetation, the strange alien environments, the local wildlife. Take the atmosphere, the music in slowly. It's a slow, methodical approach that the Prime games ran with later on, as well. So, seeing as how Zero Mission, Samus Returns and Dread made the controls super tight and agile while depicting the more badass, superhuman side of Samus, and the structure more restricted, as in more linear, less room for getting lost, it also made you lose on that slow, methodical and immersive approach. The game also has aged insanely well visually, as opposed to Metroid 1 and 2, so a remake is not as necessary as their predecessors, I feel.
I'm gonna be honest, the reason why Nintendo won't ever make a Super remake is because it doesn't need to be made. Super is still playable, it still holds up to modern standards, hell the speedrunning scene for it is still very alive. It's not like Metroid 1 or Metroid 2 which were very dated when their remakes were made.
Did not expect a video essay of this quality with editing this well done from a channel this small. Good shit, I'm definitely gonna check out your other deep dives!
It was around 2008/2009 (college days) when I first started getting interested in the Metroid franchise. I too stumbled upon the trailer for AM2R and was excited for its release. But it seemed like around that time everyone wanted to remake METROID II or something to do with SR388. There's another lost fan project called Metroid: SR-388 and about all I can find of it here on UA-cam is a trailer uploaded by Rivalseeker. I'm guessing the game was never finished because there are no playthroughs whatsoever.
First of all I gotta apologize. I saw your video probably a month ago and only now I'm leaving a comment. Secondly, a MASSIVE THANK YOU for doing this. Super Metroid is my favorite game of all time with Chrono Trigger, and seeing this not only made me root for the return of the game, but also inspired me. Thank you once again dude.
Thank you so much for your kind words, they are the highlight of my day today! Im very greatful that I was able to share the story of this obscure remake and im even happier that you enjoyed as much as you did! I hope you enjoy my next massive metroid video that should come out tomorrow or the day after!
I think Super Metroid doesn't need a remake on its own. Metroid 1 and 2 had their issues, whereas Super holds up, I think. That said, it's of course sad if a project like this gets abandoned, whatever the reason may be. But I think there's hope it may get revived once again. If someone works on something for years and doesn't mind taking a long break, then doing that again seems reasonable to me.
Very true, I did notice that we never did get any video footage of the new engine that they supposedly made towards 2020 to 2022. And its also odd that we never got our hands on any demos.
There's another video idea right there bro Still waiting on that rom hack bro just like I'm waiting on the mother 4/oddity game ......man it's soul crushing when romhacks/fangames get canceled
Wanna know the perfect way to Describe us in the Metroid Community like you said Patient Hell i will go one step further we're the Backbone and Flag carrier's of this Damn franchise because lets all be real here if you're a franchise owned by Nintendo not named "Mario" or "Legend Of Zelda" then it doesn't matter to Nintendo Want proof 1994 - 2002 was the wait between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime 2010 - 2017 Was the wait from Metroid Other M to Metroid Samus Returns 2017 - 2021 Was The Wait between Metroid Samus Returns to Metroid Dread 2017 - 20?? Has been the wait for the release of Metroid Prime 4 since its Announcement
Someone on Twitter claiming to be an artist for the project said that the "developer" was basically an idea guy that tape-wormed a ton of art from volunteers. Collecting art, but unable to do anything with it. Now that I know the context with this video, it makes sense. Only thing shown off was a 60 second video in 13 years and a bunch of art the dev didn't make.
I was the programmer for the demo seen in the "Welcome" blogpost, I think it was 2009 or so... Yeah, I was around (12?) at the time and I loved Metroid, so I figured I'd learn Game Maker as I went along. It was some of the worst programming you've ever seen, I didn't even understand the concept of state machines. Every input was basically 50 lines of "if standing forward left, run forward left" with 10 additional keyboard checks for aiming direction. I used Plunder to upload everything, and that site is long gone so I don't have the files anymore.
The two rooms seen in the screenshots were the only two rooms made, maybe there was an elevator room somewhere too... No minimap or room transitions. I didn't know how to make those. The blogpost said 14 rooms? I don't remember... maybe there was a landing site? The memory is vague, I don't recall seeing them in my .gmk file.
The first demo came around in 2008 from a guy named Octohunter. I vaguely remember it being a very, VERY poorly cobbled together mess with like 20 different power ups all enabled from the start. The collisions were extremely finicky and it was impossibly choppy. Just landing on the ground caused you to freeze or get stuck. There was a "sticky beam" upgrade that allowed you to grapple to any surface. It worked terribly and got me stuck in walls.
(Octohunter's posts can be seen by googling "fsmr octohunter" without quotes, it's the first result. It links to the teamscu forum.) My engine was somehow an improvement... Despite that, after I came along, the project withered away because we had no direction, no deadlines, no expectations, no design document, and I had no skill. The demo with Ridley/Ceres came years after and I played no part in it. I had already moved on to decompiling AM2R's 2010 tech demo and stealing all of its secrets lol
Dang its a shame that the files werent ever perserved but its awsome to have someome from the orginal team share there story! If you dont mind me asking, how long were you with the FSMR project? did you ever by chance see or work on the engine from 2020 to 2022?
I used to have the website for FSMR on my laptop. I'd refresh it every couple months to see any possible updates. Haven't checked in probably 2 years. Sad to hear it's dead
I stared with Fusion as a kid, and now as an adult I replayed it, and in the meantime played Zero Mission, AM2R, Metroid Samus Returns, Metroid Dread and Metroid Prime Remastered. And Still.. When I tryed to play Super, I couldn't get used to the controls... Same with me not getting used to no map in SNS Metroid or Metroid II. Those 3 old games needed remakes and the first 2 got it, super needs it as well.
@@FantomMisfit real. going back to super after 100%ing am2r, samus just feels way too floaty in super, but she feels tight and snappy while not feeling heavy in am2r
@@FantomMisfityou do have a point, but the first two games NEEDED remakes. Metroid NES was way too bullshit and outdated, and ZM did it justice, the same applies to Metroid II, while it was an alright game, it was starting to show its cracks due to its age. Im not one of those Super meat riders, my favorite game is actually zm, but i still think super does NOT need one
@@ObrigadaJimI guess I'm lucky then, for me it's easy to get used to the physics on a game, maybe because for each game I already expect different physics even in the same saga, even after playing fusion, ZM, dread and am2r (in that order) I managed to get used to super metroid's physics really quick, even managed to get the hang of infinite bomb jumping and infinite wall jumping really quick aswell, I just had to test how it worked and the timing, and voilá
It’s harder to justify a Super Metroid GBA-style remake than a Metroid or Metroid 2 one mainly because graphically and sonically it still holds up even if the gameplay is a bit stiffer than later entries. After the release of Fusion, Zero Mission was a thing partly because there wasn’t any new 2D Metroid being released for a long while and partly to bring original Metroid in line with Super and Fusion artistically and thematically. AM2R only happened because Nintendo sat on remaking Metroid 2 for long enough that fans literally got tired of waiting for a Zero Mission-like remake and did it themselves before Nintendo started Samus Returns. A Super Metroid remake can’t look and feel like Fusion, Zero Mission, AM2R, or a GBA update of Super because it’s already good enough that it doesn’t need to - it basically has to look and feel like Dread if it’s gonna be worth doing. Which is probably why all Super remakes to this point have failed - they’ve probably correctly come to this realization and stopped because they haven’t been doing that.
First and most importantly, thank you for your comment and perspective! however I definitely have to disagree with your take on this. I hardly believe that the reason these projects to remake super Metroid failed was because they thought if it wasn't as good as dread then there was no point. I personally think that is rather silly. I mean we already "technically" have a zero mission fan remake of Super known as super Metroid GBA edition and it shows how awesome Super could be with the physics and style of Zero/AM2R. There is also the very important topic of preference, I respect and love Super Metroid but its a game I personally hardly come back to, where games like AM2R and Zero are titles that I jump back into on the regular, I even speed run AM2R in my free time because that's just my preference. Another very important aspect of a remake is its style, and as good as Dread and Samus Returns is, the 2.5D aesthetic leaves a lot to be desired, pixel art has a way better time being more artistic and expressive, and if you compare Zero and AM2R's environments and style to Dread's you'll see a clear difference, yes Dread fundamentally looks great but artistically it seems rather drab, Samus returns is even worse in this aspect. But besides that, Super metroid is nearly 20 years old and we have a far better tech now that can give Super's world far more life, yes it looks great as it is but that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement, if the devs of Super had access to the tech we have now I HIGHLY doubt they would have made Super with the aesthetic that they did, they probably would have made a world like Dread or AM2R I find it rather silly that you cant make a remake because the original is already "perfect" and trying to say that a remake would have to be identical to the original just shackles people and there creativity all because of some over protective nostalgia. Now I'm not saying Super isn't good, it is nearly perfect, but it does have flaws that most people ignore, weather that's for nostalgic reasons or just personal bias. A remake could add so much to super, new mechanics and items, new areas and bosses, adding passive scanning which could add lore and flavor text which rom hacks have already done for Super, TLDR it could expand Super's already grand world into an even better one! And on a final note, many of these Super Metroid projects existed WAY before dread was even announced so trying to attribute there ceased development to a game that only recently came out is just wrong in my opinion. Many of these projects failed either because of loss of motivation, life circumstances and other factors. and there are projects right now that are attempting to remake super and they have a whole lot of promise, and not one of them ( at least as far as I could tell from there devlogs ) even referenced dread as a point of concern. But with all that said that is just my own take on it and I respect your perspective! Thank you again for the comment and have a great day!
@@Jetter06 It's fair to disagree. I only use Dread as an explicit reference because it's the latest both in release and chronologically in the timeline (i.e. after Super), otherwise stylistically I'd likely be referencing Samus Returns even though I'd rather reference a game that would take place after Super. You mention the Zero Mission hack, but there is an exponential difference in the amount of effort it takes to do the thing in a ROM hack vs making a fangame from scratch like AM2R did. If the goal was just "Super Metroid in GBA style/with GBA improvements," then the Zero Mission hack should've been more than satisfactory, and I agree it looks and sounds great for a GBA ROM hack. I never made any claims that Super was "perfect," though I did indeed say "good enough" _compared to the GBA-style games._ There are certainly room for improvements in Super that stuff like the Zero Mission hack handled, but again being based off an existing GBA Metroid does most of the heavy lifting here that would otherwise have to be made from scratch in a non-hack fangame. I was mainly trying to say that because Super Metroid had already set such high standards of not just graphics, audio, and gameplay in the Metroid series, but also the combo of the three that after THIRTY YEARS the only way "modern audiences" would accept a fan-made remake is if technologically the effort was put in to make it look and feel like a "modern" game like Dread rather than just "slightly updated" graphics and sound like the Zero Mission hack or an AM2R-style remake. Older audiences are fine with the original Super or the Zero Mission hack, even if there are genuinely things that need improvement or QoL things that get solved by ROM hacks or similar patches (the Super Metroid Randomizer in particular has some sweet QoL fixes for the SNES version like better weapon cycling with the shoulder buttons). This isn't even taking into account my own personal philosophy on remakes/remixes.
Remakes are for games that need it, like titles that managed to do well despite the limitations of their era and would benefit greatly from improved technology. SM needs at most a remaster. "If it ain't broke, DO. NOT. FIX. IT"
I do remember stumbling into FSMR's blog page when going down a rabbit hole of romhacks But I think by then it had already hit the forever hiatus stage as I remember the 360 degree aiming image of the original game they were going to make in the mean time. This reminder just makes me sad how much Nintendo neglects the Metroid franchise but floods every facet of their existence with Mario. Forcing us to cling to the tidbits of games in the genre of Metroidvania (which seems to be unfortunately slipping into becoming Rouguelikes.)
The DMCA notice Nintendo put out marked the day I decided never to give them another dollar. Telling somebody to trash over a decade of good work on a neglected game is a really cruddy thing to do.
I was one of the few that were following it. I might even have a few comments on the FSMR and AM2R blog posts. I also was reading the blog posts about am2r over the years and even downloaded and played their tech demo metroid confrontation.
You know i'mma throw a curve ball at ya Now before I say this keep in mind it's pure speculation Imagine if FSMR isn't actually dead no not at all Imagine if the team is quietly working on the Remake until it's 100% finished then when it's don't they'll release it so Nintendo can't get it taken down or banned cause you know they will remember what they tried with AM2R Let's say FSMR actually releases down the road it'll give AM2R a run for it's money and that's saying something Those two will be the undisputed King's of not only fan Games but REMAKES in general
I tottaly wish that would be true! But a few of the fsmr devs actually found this video and stated that the project is dead and they didnt see a point in remaking super anymore which really sucks, but that doesnt mean someone else isnt working on it! Though I do wish all the source code was made public so a new team could continue fsmr!
I still love the fact that Metroid 2 has 2 different remakes. The fan remake that looks like the gameboy advance games and the official release from Nintendo.
I thought the Samus portrait was just some pixel fanart but knowing it was a part of a fan game project no less a SUPER METROID one really makes me wish I knew about this sooner and that like many others, this got so much more attention. Hell if the team behind AM2R joined forces with Kenji or something that would be hella dope as they're all hella talented and I don't doubt they'd work a miracle.
Great video! In my opinion, Super Metroid doesn’t need the remake treatment, but I can understand why some may believe it does. I still own my original cart with box, manual, and strategy guide, when I bought it new back in 1994. It’s definitely an all-time classic! 😎
There's something about SM that forbids it's remaking. SM is pure, unadulterated storytelling without the need to utilize extended dialogues (save for the beginning, and it was straightforward and to the point). It's the perfect speedrunning game. It has the atmosphere, the music, the tension, the pressure, the anxiety, the joy, the sadness... It has everything. Trying to improve upon the original is a titanic task, which not even Nintendo has dared to do, because irs gonna be incredibly difficult, if not impossible to achieve, while keeping the essence and magic of the original untouched. Even Mercury Steam won't dare to do that, because it's gonna be an hour-and-a-half game with Dread graphics, and that's gonna be honestly a waste of time and efort, unless they create an entirely new experience without using the blueprint of the original (or else, you'll know what to do or where to go, and that'll ruin the new experience), an unprecedentedly enlarged game that justifies the fifty bucks it's probably gonna cost us. The story won't impress us like it did back in 1994 (they can only make it prettier). The poignant cutscene of the Baby sacrificing itself in order to save you from M.B won't shock us the same way it did back then. The Ridley battle won't be the same. The little draygons burying their mother/father won't have the same impact as it did back then. It would only appeal to modern audiences (which are already choosing between dozens of other games), but to us veterans (the ones who loved the OG SM), will only serve as a revival of the nostalgia factor. The original was so perfect, we honestly don't need an update, and Nintendo knows it, they know it so much, they don't even know where to begin when it comes to potentially remaking SM. But we don't really know what the future will have stored for us. Maybe we'll receive a surprise by the end of the Switch's life cycle, or the Switch2's beginning.
I also didn't know about this remake. Someone show this video to some big UA-camrs that are fans of Metroid, maybe they can spread awareness of the existence of this game, and it'll get some much needed attention!
Part of me wouldn't be surprised to see Super Metroid remade by Nintendo but part of me says it is one of those games that still plays great 30 years after the fact and has aged extremely well. Honestly the only thing I would want is a bit of an updated controller layout cause that is one factor which Fusion managed to make improvements on. Perhaps a classic control and a Updated control option.
There is a mod in the form of an IPS patch that gives Super Metroid kind of the movement, speed, and agility of Metroid Zero Mission. It's really good and makes me actually play it.
Some things: 1. Metroid is NOT a Metroidvania. Metroid is Metroid. I've said it before and I'll say in again: claiming Metroid is a metroidvania is like saying Rouge is a Rouge-like. 2. Castlevania did NOT help define what a Metroidvania is. Castlevania is notable for being the game that popularized the idea of applying SM's formula to a different IP. 3. ZM and SR are great games, but they are not great remakes. A great remake should at least _try_ to capture the spirit of the original for the sake of preservation, not build a completely new game off of its basic foundation. That's called a re-imagining. And lastly: 4. Super. Metroid. Does. Not. Need. A. Remake.
I forgot all about this. This was one of two remake projects I was looking at. Another one looked more or less exactly like SM but featured some pretty intense physics and gameplay changes. It wasn't Project Base, since that's a ROM hack. I wish I could remember the name of it though.
Neither Zero Mission nor AM2R are "definitive remakes". They change a lot of the core design and approach of the original games and are basically completely new games: whether they're better or worse off for it is arguable, but nobody calls Super a remake of Metroid (NES), despite having a lot of surface level similarities. One thing about Metroid 2 in particular that stands out is the direction and atmosphere: it's probably one of the more Western film-inspired Metroid games, and this can be seen with how both the organic areas and the mysterious structures are distinct from the first game or what came later, also seen in the enemy designs. AM2R gets rid of that entirely and goes for a mix of Zero Mission and Super, with the structures and technology being replaced with "lol chozo tech and statues" and the ambience-esque music of the original being replaced with new Prime-style compositions and rearrangements.
If the original fsmr engine isn’t ever brought into the open, I think the next best thing would be to just use am2r as the base and work from there. Either way, I’d love to see this remake Heck, I’d prob work on it if I had any real programming knowledge
Theres couple guys who were making a metroid engine. It looked awesome, like super metroid but polished up. I think it was called MEengine. There was another one to. I thought i saved the videos but they arent in my metroid playlist anymore
Samus returns is still good though. I agree AM2R is better as it stays more faithful to the game while adding new stuff. Samus returns would be at 6 or 7 in my Metroid games ranking Samus returns good Metroid game but AM2R is better. Happy other people picked it up after Nintendo sent the dmca. People were not going to let Nintendo stop it.
I wish Nintendo would do a remake but with modernized pixel graphics. As opposed to the 2.5D style like S.R. and Dread. Also this same thing but for a 2D Mario game as well. Wonder is cool but SMB3 and SMW have the best graphics imo.
This is a fantastic video. These projects are incredibly challenging, and I truly hope (even it's in dead space atm) that the project gets released at some in the next decade, or at least before I die ...😅
Super Metroid ASMR Remake: All the metroids gently whisper Ridley flies in close in mode 7 and begins tapping the baby metroid's glass container Samus uses chakra healing crystals in lieu of crystal flash
Ridley didnt die UNTIL super. The connections with prime are actually shown pretty nicely in samus returns, because the final boss (proteus ridley, i believe its called) is just wearing leftover armor from his time as meta ridley. That armor was likely destroyed in the battle with samus and the baby.
Considering you see the end credits of a hornoad messing with the detached armor before being X'd I believe it plus it would make so much sense when you face off Ridley it would still have some of energy as some of the damage might of been negated by the armor and Ridley doesn't exactly fight you for long in Ceres station which actually makes sense in hindsight as that Ridley wouldn't attempt to fight Samus after a defeat and recharge in lower Norfair for a more proper and prepared fight
Amazing story to share, I'm a big Metroid fan. First of all, you can't call a Metroid game Metroidvania. Because Metroid started its adventure first before Castlevania. Castlevania first started as a stage game before it made its way tours adventure. Symphony of the night was inspired by Super Metroid. I'm afraid to say no remake for Super Metroid. The atmosphere would never be the same.
AM2R is an absolute masterpiece! The quality of the game is as good as any GBA official release and I had much more fun playing that than the 3DS one, the people involved should be forever proud about it!! If Nintendo hired those passionate people we would've seen much more Metroid releases remake or new throughout the years, they are truly professionals!
A team actually coded their own engine but thats what the doorway energy barriers look like? SNES + 10 more pixels? Im not understanding. Seems like an overkill amount of manpower and we get super Nintendo and a half graphics?
I mean, when Super Metroid came out, "Metroidvania" wasn't even a thing, so it didn't really "solidify the whole idea of a Metroidvania." For that, you have to look at Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and the followup Castlevania games. We called them "Metroidvanias" because they abandoned what Castlevania games had been prior and became more like Metroid. Thus, Metroidvanias.
Of all the fan projects ive seen come and go im surpised this one slipped my radar. Great video. You make me want to say "Fuck it ill do it myself," but im a kitchen pro not a game developer haha. Maybe Ill learn how to develop it anyways, because fuck it, why not?
Super Metroid needs some love yes. But it seems we all (specially old-schools like me) have to wait for a while longer till it will happen. Am sure one day there will be an remake that survives but i guess it will take a few more years at least.
Nintendo is exactly the type of company that makes games and leaves them in a vault, completely finished and polished for YEARS. I have no doubt in my mind that they already have a remake hidden somewhere but because they endlessly doubt the franchise, they won’t release it. Despite the fact that the games dominate the market every time a new game drops.
Translating the look and feel of SM to a higher fidelity of visuals is difficult. Settling for conventional methods used for most games would inevitably affect its style i think. SM is so liked in its visual, auditory and mechanical presentation for a specific reason, and any change must be in resonance with the original to capture what SM is. Where to lay the computational resources for a look that, if one made a course grained version of it something quite similar to actual SM game should be recovered . An image with its downsampled version is like a remaster of a game with worse temporal/spatial resolution. Its an artistic choice how constant values should be "recovered" but too often it is done naively. would be interesting to see a try but i feel it will only happen once in a life time and should be done right. in any case SM will always be there I guess.
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The Metroid fan mantra: "Patience pays out"
The Mega Man fan mantra: "Patience does nothing"
we tried being patient and they cancelled everything. megaman fans are the way we are for a reason.
yep...
I mean... Megaman fans might get something in May, since JKB said "May is just a month", so we might have hope for 2024, also Megaman X8 Demake might came out this year :D
@@metroidserver Oh nice, I didn't know about MMX8 Demake.
And of course MMX Corrupted itself might become the "AM2R moment" for the MM-fandom.
Well, at least they did get Megaman X Dive Offline.
Ive always seen those sprites never knowing it was for FSMR. Someone gotta revive this ASAP
For real!!! Someone get this game 50cc of development team stat!
It'll just get a DMCA takedown after it releases. Nintendo doesn't like Fangames.
@Euclidiuss tell that to am2r, people can't stop fangames, am2r has been DMCA twice and is still up
@@Rankaquion you are right, what goes on the internet says on the internet. But it would still be a lot of work to make this game and he wouldn't get paid for any of it
@@Euclidiuss they'd never get paid anyway, even if nintendo was more chill with remakes they'd shut it down in an instant if profit was made off of it, as pretty much any other company would
The developers missed the *GOLDEN* opportunity to call the project: ASMR
That would just be confusing.
although it's hardly "another" remake like with metroid 2
A would just stand for A
if only you knew
Another Scrapped Metroid Remake
21:40 Regarding why many didnt talk about it, ive heard that people were scared of publicizing information specifically because nintendo tends to dmca fan games. So I myself have commented on reddit about it but under the pretext that its basically a secret
I hope that this remake comes out at some point, judging from this video, i have hope for this remake. From the sprite work to the how the areas look is amazing
I hope too. It looks amazing, and as a Super Metroid fanboy, this feels like a fever dream. But to be fair fan games are long (I've been waiting on a Zelda fan game since 2013 xD). Still, wishing the devs good luck and good success.
@@miserablepileofsecrets yeah, and I now just discovered FSMR. Thank you recommendation feed
swwy my dude but ish NOTZ GONNA HAPPEN wtf dunt chya get? even if FSMR dose even bcm a tingy.....it 2 just as wif ASMR nintendo will nuke it.....?
Kenji and I are old friends so this video was pretty wild to find. While FSMR may be dead, a lot of the old Metroid fangame community that he and I were a part of are still around and still make things, but I think by this point everyone's old enough to realize that remaking Super isn't worth it.
I'm glad this video exists, but I do wish there had been some mention of Metroid: Fan Mission, which was where a lot of FSMR stuff (and other Metroid fangames, including AM2R) was first published.
You one of the real ones to remember that place. Shit there was resources lost forever there for real
Yeah Super Metroid is already one of the biggest Metroidvanias to date, making something that expands on that would mean it's either Hollow Knight levels of big or possibly even bigger..... which sounds crazy. The most realistic thing you could do with super is create the game again with reworked controls and bosses, as well as maybe some new bosses to throw in the mix but nothing too crazy.
Personally, I think all that the game needs is a bit of modern polish. Smoother animations, cleaner sprites, etc. It's jam packed as it is. As it is, I consider it one of the three best late SNES games, along with Donkey Kong Country and Chrono Trigger.
@@ironhead2008Earthbound.
@@voltron77Mid
Super Metroid Remake already exists. Its called Super Metroid Ancient Chozo with the Widescreen patch.
A game from 94', 30 years ago, and still holds fine
The main problems of that game are solved by romhacks and patches, like Project Base (more friendly movement and a better menu, or widescreen patches)
I hope that, if Nintendo does a Remake, it takes the time to make it very good and polished, Super Metroid quality was insanely good in his epoch
I'm surprised I've never heard of this! It does look super cool, tho look at how ambitious it seemed to be (especially artistically), it's not surprising that this never came to fruition.
we probably never heard of it because nintendo probably took it down while it was bieng made, whilst it was non profit...and it was probably with full original assets too...which isupsetting, we get beautiful successful fangames bu loving and caring fans, and what does nintendo do? Spit in the fan's face and take it down with a C&D...it's disgusting and utterly disrespectful and dishonorable to the community and fanbase... #wheresthefairusenintendo
Super was my first Metroid game, I tried it on a whim with the Switch online service and fell head over heels with it. It would be amazing to get a full remake or remaster or just about anything really. What Kenji and the team were doing looked so cool! Hope he’s finding success with whatever he’s up to now
i think the FSMR team moving onto a original project is smart
they can actually make money for their hard work
NOTZ for a fan remake tey cant...tats calld copyright my guy 😔 even if chu take insperation fwom w.es work..and add ontu it at the ebd of the day its STILL the OG holders pwoperty despite if chu dev. chur own take intu the matter bc chur basicwy useing wat was alrdy tere and just adding chur own creativeness tu it 😔
@@shadowdragonx07is your keyboard okay? Worried about you btw.
Worth noting: Metroid 1 and 2 were both 8-bit games that could use an update. Super Metroid was a late 16-bit title, there's not much you could do to pretty it up. I'd personally just port it to the Metroid Fusion engine and leave it at that.
Wow I followed FSMR since its revival a few years back and checked up on the blog a few times every year, but after COVID I forgot about it ngl. I had no idea there was a “final” blog post last year, sucks to find out this way but happy it got some recognition with this video.
As much as I heavily appreciate them working on a remake, I feel like using the zero mission style again for super metroid would have made it not feel like super metroid. The movement and momentum in super is so unique compared to any other 2D metroid and a remake that didn't mirror that 1:1 would feel very strange. Same with the art style and samus in particular, her body being taller and the floatier movement letting the game showcase her sprite in detail moving around in segments. Having zero mission or a mild variant of the ZM sprite would make the game look not quite right.
Super is one of those games where I'm not sure a remake is even needed. M1 and 2 both had heavily restricted/archaic design and while you could say the same on a few things in super, it holds up amazingly well even now.
Genuinely, I don't think you could remake Super without downgrading it. The only positive change they could really make would be to find some alternative to scrolling through all your weapons with the select button
Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if there's a Super Metroid Remake in the Metroid Dread engine coming out soon.
God i hope so
a super metroid remake with dread gameplay would honestly be sick as fuck. tbh i kinda wanna see all the 2d games recreated with the same style for consistency's sake
Dread engine is epic I was saying that a few weeks ago
Don't do that. Don't give me hope
We can only hope for this gem to come to live. Great video btw :) We need more little snippets of fan news like this one.
No idea how I hadn't heard about this before. Sad that it's just sitting unfinished. I hope that they do at least get their own game out and that it's very good.
What always scares me of a Super Metroid remake, and I feel is something people don't really talk too much about, so maybe that's just me, is the game losing what made it special. Recent 2D metroids pride themselves in crafting an agile, fast-paced, tight controlled Samus that wrecks through enemy forces. They have also worked towards making the games so accesible, you have to actively seek to get lost instead of getting lost naturally. Those two things would hurt Super Metroid, I feel, as the game seeks to let the player get lost and figure things out on their own. You're Samus, a lone bounty hunter in a hostile planet she once called home. Observe the walls, the vegetation, the strange alien environments, the local wildlife. Take the atmosphere, the music in slowly. It's a slow, methodical approach that the Prime games ran with later on, as well. So, seeing as how Zero Mission, Samus Returns and Dread made the controls super tight and agile while depicting the more badass, superhuman side of Samus, and the structure more restricted, as in more linear, less room for getting lost, it also made you lose on that slow, methodical and immersive approach. The game also has aged insanely well visually, as opposed to Metroid 1 and 2, so a remake is not as necessary as their predecessors, I feel.
I'm gonna be honest, the reason why Nintendo won't ever make a Super remake is because it doesn't need to be made. Super is still playable, it still holds up to modern standards, hell the speedrunning scene for it is still very alive. It's not like Metroid 1 or Metroid 2 which were very dated when their remakes were made.
Did not expect a video essay of this quality with editing this well done from a channel this small. Good shit, I'm definitely gonna check out your other deep dives!
Thank you so much for your kind words!! I hope you enjoy the other deep dives I've made!
NOW WE’RE COOKIN JETTER
It was around 2008/2009 (college days) when I first started getting interested in the Metroid franchise. I too stumbled upon the trailer for AM2R and was excited for its release. But it seemed like around that time everyone wanted to remake METROID II or something to do with SR388. There's another lost fan project called Metroid: SR-388 and about all I can find of it here on UA-cam is a trailer uploaded by Rivalseeker. I'm guessing the game was never finished because there are no playthroughs whatsoever.
First of all I gotta apologize. I saw your video probably a month ago and only now I'm leaving a comment. Secondly, a MASSIVE THANK YOU for doing this. Super Metroid is my favorite game of all time with Chrono Trigger, and seeing this not only made me root for the return of the game, but also inspired me. Thank you once again dude.
Thank you so much for your kind words, they are the highlight of my day today! Im very greatful that I was able to share the story of this obscure remake and im even happier that you enjoyed as much as you did!
I hope you enjoy my next massive metroid video that should come out tomorrow or the day after!
@@Jetter06 OHHHH SHIT NOW I WON'T BE ABLE TO SLEEP
I think Super Metroid doesn't need a remake on its own. Metroid 1 and 2 had their issues, whereas Super holds up, I think. That said, it's of course sad if a project like this gets abandoned, whatever the reason may be. But I think there's hope it may get revived once again. If someone works on something for years and doesn't mind taking a long break, then doing that again seems reasonable to me.
Imagine if there were more super metroid remakes. Then it would have to be called ASMR...
One of the hardest searchable mods ever
It could be called AM3R. Another Metroid 3 remake. As Super Metroid is Metroid 3
“Grab your nearest arm cannon and make sure you have your ice beam equipped” is all it took for me to subscribe.
FSMR was just a collection of nice mockups and false promises.
Very true, I did notice that we never did get any video footage of the new engine that they supposedly made towards 2020 to 2022. And its also odd that we never got our hands on any demos.
There's another video idea right there bro
Still waiting on that rom hack bro just like I'm waiting on the mother 4/oddity game ......man it's soul crushing when romhacks/fangames get canceled
Wanna know the perfect way to Describe us in the Metroid Community like you said
Patient
Hell i will go one step further we're the Backbone and Flag carrier's of this Damn franchise because lets all be real here if you're a franchise owned by Nintendo not named "Mario" or "Legend Of Zelda" then it doesn't matter to Nintendo
Want proof
1994 - 2002 was the wait between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime
2010 - 2017 Was the wait from Metroid Other M to Metroid Samus Returns
2017 - 2021 Was The Wait between Metroid Samus Returns to Metroid Dread
2017 - 20?? Has been the wait for the release of Metroid Prime 4 since its Announcement
Someone on Twitter claiming to be an artist for the project said that the "developer" was basically an idea guy that tape-wormed a ton of art from volunteers. Collecting art, but unable to do anything with it. Now that I know the context with this video, it makes sense. Only thing shown off was a 60 second video in 13 years and a bunch of art the dev didn't make.
I was the programmer for the demo seen in the "Welcome" blogpost, I think it was 2009 or so... Yeah, I was around (12?) at the time and I loved Metroid, so I figured I'd learn Game Maker as I went along. It was some of the worst programming you've ever seen, I didn't even understand the concept of state machines. Every input was basically 50 lines of "if standing forward left, run forward left" with 10 additional keyboard checks for aiming direction. I used Plunder to upload everything, and that site is long gone so I don't have the files anymore.
The two rooms seen in the screenshots were the only two rooms made, maybe there was an elevator room somewhere too... No minimap or room transitions. I didn't know how to make those.
The blogpost said 14 rooms? I don't remember... maybe there was a landing site? The memory is vague, I don't recall seeing them in my .gmk file.
The first demo came around in 2008 from a guy named Octohunter. I vaguely remember it being a very, VERY poorly cobbled together mess with like 20 different power ups all enabled from the start. The collisions were extremely finicky and it was impossibly choppy. Just landing on the ground caused you to freeze or get stuck. There was a "sticky beam" upgrade that allowed you to grapple to any surface. It worked terribly and got me stuck in walls.
(Octohunter's posts can be seen by googling "fsmr octohunter" without quotes, it's the first result. It links to the teamscu forum.)
My engine was somehow an improvement... Despite that, after I came along, the project withered away because we had no direction, no deadlines, no expectations, no design document, and I had no skill. The demo with Ridley/Ceres came years after and I played no part in it. I had already moved on to decompiling AM2R's 2010 tech demo and stealing all of its secrets lol
Dang its a shame that the files werent ever perserved but its awsome to have someome from the orginal team share there story! If you dont mind me asking, how long were you with the FSMR project? did you ever by chance see or work on the engine from 2020 to 2022?
@@Jetter06 2009 to 2010, i think 5th grade
I used to have the website for FSMR on my laptop. I'd refresh it every couple months to see any possible updates. Haven't checked in probably 2 years. Sad to hear it's dead
I don't think we'll really happen because Super Metroid is kind of already a perfect game. Doesn't really need many modern conveniences.
Oh take off the tinted glasses Zero Mission/AM2R feels and plays way better.
I stared with Fusion as a kid, and now as an adult I replayed it, and in the meantime played Zero Mission, AM2R, Metroid Samus Returns, Metroid Dread and Metroid Prime Remastered. And Still.. When I tryed to play Super, I couldn't get used to the controls...
Same with me not getting used to no map in SNS Metroid or Metroid II.
Those 3 old games needed remakes and the first 2 got it, super needs it as well.
@@FantomMisfit real. going back to super after 100%ing am2r, samus just feels way too floaty in super, but she feels tight and snappy while not feeling heavy in am2r
@@FantomMisfityou do have a point, but the first two games NEEDED remakes. Metroid NES was way too bullshit and outdated, and ZM did it justice, the same applies to Metroid II, while it was an alright game, it was starting to show its cracks due to its age. Im not one of those Super meat riders, my favorite game is actually zm, but i still think super does NOT need one
@@ObrigadaJimI guess I'm lucky then, for me it's easy to get used to the physics on a game, maybe because for each game I already expect different physics even in the same saga, even after playing fusion, ZM, dread and am2r (in that order) I managed to get used to super metroid's physics really quick, even managed to get the hang of infinite bomb jumping and infinite wall jumping really quick aswell, I just had to test how it worked and the timing, and voilá
It’s harder to justify a Super Metroid GBA-style remake than a Metroid or Metroid 2 one mainly because graphically and sonically it still holds up even if the gameplay is a bit stiffer than later entries. After the release of Fusion, Zero Mission was a thing partly because there wasn’t any new 2D Metroid being released for a long while and partly to bring original Metroid in line with Super and Fusion artistically and thematically. AM2R only happened because Nintendo sat on remaking Metroid 2 for long enough that fans literally got tired of waiting for a Zero Mission-like remake and did it themselves before Nintendo started Samus Returns. A Super Metroid remake can’t look and feel like Fusion, Zero Mission, AM2R, or a GBA update of Super because it’s already good enough that it doesn’t need to - it basically has to look and feel like Dread if it’s gonna be worth doing. Which is probably why all Super remakes to this point have failed - they’ve probably correctly come to this realization and stopped because they haven’t been doing that.
First and most importantly, thank you for your comment and perspective!
however I definitely have to disagree with your take on this.
I hardly believe that the reason these projects to remake super Metroid failed was because they thought if it wasn't as good as dread then there was no point. I personally think that is rather silly. I mean we already "technically" have a zero mission fan remake of Super known as super Metroid GBA edition and it shows how awesome Super could be with the physics and style of Zero/AM2R. There is also the very important topic of preference, I respect and love Super Metroid but its a game I personally hardly come back to, where games like AM2R and Zero are titles that I jump back into on the regular, I even speed run AM2R in my free time because that's just my preference. Another very important aspect of a remake is its style, and as good as Dread and Samus Returns is, the 2.5D aesthetic leaves a lot to be desired, pixel art has a way better time being more artistic and expressive, and if you compare Zero and AM2R's environments and style to Dread's you'll see a clear difference, yes Dread fundamentally looks great but artistically it seems rather drab, Samus returns is even worse in this aspect. But besides that, Super metroid is nearly 20 years old and we have a far better tech now that can give Super's world far more life, yes it looks great as it is but that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement, if the devs of Super had access to the tech we have now I HIGHLY doubt they would have made Super with the aesthetic that they did, they probably would have made a world like Dread or AM2R
I find it rather silly that you cant make a remake because the original is already "perfect" and trying to say that a remake would have to be identical to the original just shackles people and there creativity all because of some over protective nostalgia.
Now I'm not saying Super isn't good, it is nearly perfect, but it does have flaws that most people ignore, weather that's for nostalgic reasons or just personal bias. A remake could add so much to super, new mechanics and items, new areas and bosses, adding passive scanning which could add lore and flavor text which rom hacks have already done for Super, TLDR it could expand Super's already grand world into an even better one!
And on a final note, many of these Super Metroid projects existed WAY before dread was even announced so trying to attribute there ceased development to a game that only recently came out is just wrong in my opinion. Many of these projects failed either because of loss of motivation, life circumstances and other factors. and there are projects right now that are attempting to remake super and they have a whole lot of promise, and not one of them ( at least as far as I could tell from there devlogs ) even referenced dread as a point of concern.
But with all that said that is just my own take on it and I respect your perspective! Thank you again for the comment and have a great day!
@@Jetter06 It's fair to disagree. I only use Dread as an explicit reference because it's the latest both in release and chronologically in the timeline (i.e. after Super), otherwise stylistically I'd likely be referencing Samus Returns even though I'd rather reference a game that would take place after Super.
You mention the Zero Mission hack, but there is an exponential difference in the amount of effort it takes to do the thing in a ROM hack vs making a fangame from scratch like AM2R did. If the goal was just "Super Metroid in GBA style/with GBA improvements," then the Zero Mission hack should've been more than satisfactory, and I agree it looks and sounds great for a GBA ROM hack.
I never made any claims that Super was "perfect," though I did indeed say "good enough" _compared to the GBA-style games._ There are certainly room for improvements in Super that stuff like the Zero Mission hack handled, but again being based off an existing GBA Metroid does most of the heavy lifting here that would otherwise have to be made from scratch in a non-hack fangame. I was mainly trying to say that because Super Metroid had already set such high standards of not just graphics, audio, and gameplay in the Metroid series, but also the combo of the three that after THIRTY YEARS the only way "modern audiences" would accept a fan-made remake is if technologically the effort was put in to make it look and feel like a "modern" game like Dread rather than just "slightly updated" graphics and sound like the Zero Mission hack or an AM2R-style remake.
Older audiences are fine with the original Super or the Zero Mission hack, even if there are genuinely things that need improvement or QoL things that get solved by ROM hacks or similar patches (the Super Metroid Randomizer in particular has some sweet QoL fixes for the SNES version like better weapon cycling with the shoulder buttons). This isn't even taking into account my own personal philosophy on remakes/remixes.
Remakes are for games that need it, like titles that managed to do well despite the limitations of their era and would benefit greatly from improved technology. SM needs at most a remaster. "If it ain't broke, DO. NOT. FIX. IT"
I'm a huge Metroid fan myself, this is my first time hearing of this project.
Super redone with Dread’s graphics would be absolutely amazing 🤩
So youre telling me that if Super Metroid gets remade now, it'll have to be called ASMR
I never had heard of this project until this vid, nice documentation!
I do remember stumbling into FSMR's blog page when going down a rabbit hole of romhacks But I think by then it had already hit the forever hiatus stage as I remember the 360 degree aiming image of the original game they were going to make in the mean time. This reminder just makes me sad how much Nintendo neglects the Metroid franchise but floods every facet of their existence with Mario. Forcing us to cling to the tidbits of games in the genre of Metroidvania (which seems to be unfortunately slipping into becoming Rouguelikes.)
The DMCA notice Nintendo put out marked the day I decided never to give them another dollar. Telling somebody to trash over a decade of good work on a neglected game is a really cruddy thing to do.
I was one of the few that were following it. I might even have a few comments on the FSMR and AM2R blog posts. I also was reading the blog posts about am2r over the years and even downloaded and played their tech demo metroid confrontation.
You know i'mma throw a curve ball at ya
Now before I say this keep in mind it's pure speculation
Imagine if FSMR isn't actually dead no not at all Imagine if the team is quietly working on the Remake until it's 100% finished then when it's don't they'll release it so Nintendo can't get it taken down or banned cause you know they will remember what they tried with AM2R
Let's say FSMR actually releases down the road it'll give AM2R a run for it's money and that's saying something
Those two will be the undisputed King's of not only fan Games but REMAKES in general
I tottaly wish that would be true! But a few of the fsmr devs actually found this video and stated that the project is dead and they didnt see a point in remaking super anymore which really sucks, but that doesnt mean someone else isnt working on it!
Though I do wish all the source code was made public so a new team could continue fsmr!
3:05 to be fair, SM doesn't really need a remake the way M1 and M2 did.
I still love the fact that Metroid 2 has 2 different remakes. The fan remake that looks like the gameboy advance games and the official release from Nintendo.
I thought the Samus portrait was just some pixel fanart but knowing it was a part of a fan game project no less a SUPER METROID one really makes me wish I knew about this sooner and that like many others, this got so much more attention. Hell if the team behind AM2R joined forces with Kenji or something that would be hella dope as they're all hella talented and I don't doubt they'd work a miracle.
Great video! In my opinion, Super Metroid doesn’t need the remake treatment, but I can understand why some may believe it does. I still own my original cart with box, manual, and strategy guide, when I bought it new back in 1994. It’s definitely an all-time classic! 😎
There's something about SM that forbids it's remaking.
SM is pure, unadulterated storytelling without the need to utilize extended dialogues (save for the beginning, and it was straightforward and to the point). It's the perfect speedrunning game. It has the atmosphere, the music, the tension, the pressure, the anxiety, the joy, the sadness... It has everything.
Trying to improve upon the original is a titanic task, which not even Nintendo has dared to do, because irs gonna be incredibly difficult, if not impossible to achieve, while keeping the essence and magic of the original untouched. Even Mercury Steam won't dare to do that, because it's gonna be an hour-and-a-half game with Dread graphics, and that's gonna be honestly a waste of time and efort, unless they create an entirely new experience without using the blueprint of the original (or else, you'll know what to do or where to go, and that'll ruin the new experience), an unprecedentedly enlarged game that justifies the fifty bucks it's probably gonna cost us. The story won't impress us like it did back in 1994 (they can only make it prettier). The poignant cutscene of the Baby sacrificing itself in order to save you from M.B won't shock us the same way it did back then. The Ridley battle won't be the same. The little draygons burying their mother/father won't have the same impact as it did back then. It would only appeal to modern audiences (which are already choosing between dozens of other games), but to us veterans (the ones who loved the OG SM), will only serve as a revival of the nostalgia factor.
The original was so perfect, we honestly don't need an update, and Nintendo knows it, they know it so much, they don't even know where to begin when it comes to potentially remaking SM.
But we don't really know what the future will have stored for us. Maybe we'll receive a surprise by the end of the Switch's life cycle, or the Switch2's beginning.
I could see Mercury Steam working on Super Metroid Remake for the switch 2
You can't make better what is already perfect.
I hope the next remake attempt goes by "Another Super Metroid Remake" so it can be abbreviated as "ASMR"
3:25 Wanted to let you know that Super Metroid Revamp is a remake of Super Metroid GBA, both made by the same person :)
I also didn't know about this remake. Someone show this video to some big UA-camrs that are fans of Metroid, maybe they can spread awareness of the existence of this game, and it'll get some much needed attention!
Part of me wouldn't be surprised to see Super Metroid remade by Nintendo but part of me says it is one of those games that still plays great 30 years after the fact and has aged extremely well.
Honestly the only thing I would want is a bit of an updated controller layout cause that is one factor which Fusion managed to make improvements on. Perhaps a classic control and a Updated control option.
Omg this is amazing looking!!! Hopefully it gets revived.
There is a mod in the form of an IPS patch that gives Super Metroid kind of the movement, speed, and agility of Metroid Zero Mission. It's really good and makes me actually play it.
What’s the name?
I played the Gameboy version and was blown away. Brought me into a completely new world
Some things:
1. Metroid is NOT a Metroidvania. Metroid is Metroid. I've said it before and I'll say in again: claiming Metroid is a metroidvania is like saying Rouge is a Rouge-like.
2. Castlevania did NOT help define what a Metroidvania is. Castlevania is notable for being the game that popularized the idea of applying SM's formula to a different IP.
3. ZM and SR are great games, but they are not great remakes. A great remake should at least _try_ to capture the spirit of the original for the sake of preservation, not build a completely new game off of its basic foundation. That's called a re-imagining.
And lastly:
4. Super. Metroid. Does. Not. Need. A. Remake.
I forgot all about this. This was one of two remake projects I was looking at.
Another one looked more or less exactly like SM but featured some pretty intense physics and gameplay changes. It wasn't Project Base, since that's a ROM hack. I wish I could remember the name of it though.
Ancient chozo?
Neither Zero Mission nor AM2R are "definitive remakes". They change a lot of the core design and approach of the original games and are basically completely new games: whether they're better or worse off for it is arguable, but nobody calls Super a remake of Metroid (NES), despite having a lot of surface level similarities. One thing about Metroid 2 in particular that stands out is the direction and atmosphere: it's probably one of the more Western film-inspired Metroid games, and this can be seen with how both the organic areas and the mysterious structures are distinct from the first game or what came later, also seen in the enemy designs. AM2R gets rid of that entirely and goes for a mix of Zero Mission and Super, with the structures and technology being replaced with "lol chozo tech and statues" and the ambience-esque music of the original being replaced with new Prime-style compositions and rearrangements.
If the original fsmr engine isn’t ever brought into the open, I think the next best thing would be to just use am2r as the base and work from there. Either way, I’d love to see this remake
Heck, I’d prob work on it if I had any real programming knowledge
Super Metroid's Map Rando romhack has been so addicting I haven't played much other games since getting the sd cart for my SNES
Theres couple guys who were making a metroid engine. It looked awesome, like super metroid but polished up. I think it was called MEengine. There was another one to. I thought i saved the videos but they arent in my metroid playlist anymore
We may going to see a Super Metroid Remake very soon by Nintendo, despite the controversy for being unnecessary by its fans.
I didn't even know this existed. Interesting and kind of sad. Maybe it will get revived one day.
I followed am2rs blog from start to finish. I would love to see a remake of super on this style.
i have high hope that this project will be on steam someday.
Samus returns is still good though. I agree AM2R is better as it stays more faithful to the game while adding new stuff. Samus returns would be at 6 or 7 in my Metroid games ranking Samus returns good Metroid game but AM2R is better. Happy other people picked it up after Nintendo sent the dmca. People were not going to let Nintendo stop it.
yeah AM2R is the better Metroid 2 ( and overall is a better 2D Metroid game but that's just my personal opinion )
@@Jetter06 I can get behind that
I wish Nintendo would do a remake but with modernized pixel graphics. As opposed to the 2.5D style like S.R. and Dread.
Also this same thing but for a 2D Mario game as well. Wonder is cool but SMB3 and SMW have the best graphics imo.
This is a fantastic video. These projects are incredibly challenging, and I truly hope (even it's in dead space atm) that the project gets released at some in the next decade, or at least before I die ...😅
damn i hope it does come out. it looks so damn good. maybe fans of the game commenting on the vid might able to contribute to the project to revive it
Honestly, I don't see why Super Metroid needs a remake... it still looks good as it is!
Super Metroid ASMR Remake:
All the metroids gently whisper
Ridley flies in close in mode 7 and begins tapping the baby metroid's glass container
Samus uses chakra healing crystals in lieu of crystal flash
Ridley didnt die UNTIL super. The connections with prime are actually shown pretty nicely in samus returns, because the final boss (proteus ridley, i believe its called) is just wearing leftover armor from his time as meta ridley. That armor was likely destroyed in the battle with samus and the baby.
Considering you see the end credits of a hornoad messing with the detached armor before being X'd I believe it plus it would make so much sense when you face off Ridley it would still have some of energy as some of the damage might of been negated by the armor and Ridley doesn't exactly fight you for long in Ceres station which actually makes sense in hindsight as that Ridley wouldn't attempt to fight Samus after a defeat and recharge in lower Norfair for a more proper and prepared fight
Where do we find updates on AM2R 2.0?
Amazing story to share, I'm a big Metroid fan. First of all, you can't call a Metroid game Metroidvania. Because Metroid started its adventure first before Castlevania. Castlevania first started as a stage game before it made its way tours adventure. Symphony of the night was inspired by Super Metroid. I'm afraid to say no remake for Super Metroid. The atmosphere would never be the same.
excellent work!!
Thank you!!
What we truly need is a super Metroid on dreads engine, developed by the same guys that made dread, just with a good soundtrack this time.
A remake in the dread engine would be insane and an instant purchase for me
Hopefully this video brings a lot of new exposure to the project!
I'm okay with FSMR going on permanent hiatus. I just hope their next project goes well.
As a Super Metroid streamer I would really love to play FSMR as I did AM2R.
Making projects like this is incredibly difficult
this was so well presented keep it up
It did get a rerelease on the "New" 3DS XL before the 3DS e-store was closed.
AM2R is an absolute masterpiece! The quality of the game is as good as any GBA official release and I had much more fun playing that than the 3DS one, the people involved should be forever proud about it!! If Nintendo hired those passionate people we would've seen much more Metroid releases remake or new throughout the years, they are truly professionals!
Engagement bump. Wish i heard about this sooner
A team actually coded their own engine but thats what the doorway energy barriers look like? SNES + 10 more pixels? Im not understanding. Seems like an overkill amount of manpower and we get super Nintendo and a half graphics?
Yeah seems like a waste of time. 14 years for a zero mission reskin sounds insane
I would like it to get somewhat of a dread treatment. Just under better working conditions.
Heck yes! Just give me super Metroid with better movement, faster controls, and a better final boss and I'm all good
as a passionate fan of Metroid seeing the gem die off due to burnout feels like a punch to the guts, and im just hearing bout it now???
I mean, when Super Metroid came out, "Metroidvania" wasn't even a thing, so it didn't really "solidify the whole idea of a Metroidvania."
For that, you have to look at Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and the followup Castlevania games. We called them "Metroidvanias" because they abandoned what Castlevania games had been prior and became more like Metroid. Thus, Metroidvanias.
MercurySteam will likely be allowed to remake it after two successes.
Of all the fan projects ive seen come and go im surpised this one slipped my radar.
Great video. You make me want to say "Fuck it ill do it myself," but im a kitchen pro not a game developer haha.
Maybe Ill learn how to develop it anyways, because fuck it, why not?
I'm so glad they never called it ASMR.
🤣🤣 lmao
Super Metroid needs some love yes.
But it seems we all (specially old-schools like me) have to wait for a while longer till it will happen.
Am sure one day there will be an remake that survives but i guess it will take a few more years at least.
Agreed, they need to give this and the original a modern remake 👍
I completely forgot about this! I missed the last post! I never spoke of it, because i didn't want it to get DMCA'd.
Same! I avoided talking about FSMR for so long but I felt like it was time to shed some light on this lost project
Nintendo is exactly the type of company that makes games and leaves them in a vault, completely finished and polished for YEARS. I have no doubt in my mind that they already have a remake hidden somewhere but because they endlessly doubt the franchise, they won’t release it. Despite the fact that the games dominate the market every time a new game drops.
Honestly all SM needs is a graphics update and a widescreen ability.
Thats it
Translating the look and feel of SM to a higher fidelity of visuals is difficult. Settling for conventional methods used for most games would inevitably affect its style i think. SM is so liked in its visual, auditory and mechanical presentation for a specific reason, and any change must be in resonance with the original to capture what SM is. Where to lay the computational resources for a look that, if one made a course grained version of it something quite similar to actual SM game should be recovered . An image with its downsampled version is like a remaster of a game with worse temporal/spatial resolution. Its an artistic choice how constant values should be "recovered" but too often it is done naively. would be interesting to see a try but i feel it will only happen once in a life time and should be done right. in any case SM will always be there I guess.