Why Dazai VS Fyodor Isn't Close
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Why Dazai VS Fyodor Isn't Close. Between these high IQ characters, who is actually smarter? Who is also right in Philosophy? through raw feats? Let's find out.
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From which anime these both demons are ?
I’m trying to comment on every video but haven’t so far been able to keep it up yo
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If you think about it. Dazai probably is smarter than Fyodor as right now they are equals but Fyodor has god knows how much experience. Man's probably older than the dinosaurs. Meanwhile Dazai is at the prime age of 22. He's practically a new born to Fyodor but still matches him.
Dazai is rlly terrifying
Well beast has some scary theories about dazai too.fyo's age isnt confirmed and yall are saying highball older than dinosaurs so why not discuss dazai's theory.he might be unaffected by even the book to an extent he can remember every single other him's memories.in beast we saw a panel with like 18 different dazai's.so dazai isnt off the boat on how much he knows either.for all we know both of em might be damn near omniscient levels of smart competing to see whos better
I believe that Fyodor knew that Dazai would win, he just didn't know how. When Dazai "died", Fyodor was genuinely disappointed, because that threw a kink into his plans. He was planning on getting to Yokohama through death, but he had to fly there instead and then he might be too late to activate the singularity. Dazai revealing that he wasn't actually dead did surprise Fyodor, but in the end it went according to his plans. Idk if that's true or not, I'm just speculating here. XD
It is not, see the reaction he is surprise and he even questions Dazai about his fake death.
@@marlougalinato3645 Yes! I definitely understand this! I simply meant that Dazai did in fact succeed in surprising him with the faked death, but the ultimate end goal was what Fyodor had wanted. I like to believe that Fyodor is smart enough to create a plan that he can execute and adapt to depending on different circumstances, but not smart enough to know exactly what choices everyone will make. Which is why he was surprised when Dazai faked his death.
@@jiyookim-jung975 Ok man whatever, but I believe that Fyodor actually did not know of Dazai plans he did nothing but he think that he win cause of Dazai fake death and also he did not know that the Vampire dude got restored and the rest of the agency won in the east he did not know what happened in the east just sharing my view.🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🕵♂🕵♂🕵♂🕵♂🕵♂
Fyodor isn't aware of everything that goes on, he wasn't aware of Natsume's involvement nor of Francis which is why he decided to kill Francis to prevent the use of eyes of god, he was also unaware of Ranpo's involvement until the agency was saved from assassination and he wasn't aware of Nikolai which kind of became a problem because had he died due to that poison then his Gift wouldn't have worked because he injected it himself.
Fyodor wasn't aware of everything that transpired but he adapted to situations by concealing his Gift long enough for his plan to workout.
@@fardin_king6817 Wait I kind of love your theory actually.
it is very close because in 4 chapters Dazai gonna easy outsmart Fyodor, and 5 chapters after that, Fyodor will easily outsmart dazai, repeat.
2:30 Dazai saw the people around him as pawns too, while he was in the port mafia. So Dazai in the pm and Fyodor think the same, but due to Oda’s request when dying Dazai changed his views. For example to have Chuuya join the pm he manipulated the sheep to betray Chuuya, so he would have to leave them. This is basically what Fyodor told Dazai to do to the waitress. I personally think Dazai was only able to defeat Fyodor, because he changed his ways and gives the people around him freedom. That way Fyodor didn’t only fight against Dazai but also against Sigma and Chuuya.
Man i am so proud of Dazai
I can agree Oda definitely helped Dazai learn that he can trust others which is why even if we didn't get a lot of Oda he was still super important
Dazai never won
@@Human_traain dazai won the game, but lost the war.
Can't wait for Ranpo to appear. Ranpo and Dazai might clutch up.
He already appeared tho?
@@justlikethis6084 On his channel, not the manga
I think I remember hearing somewhere that Fyodor looked scared during the helicopter scene because he thought Dazai was going to kill him, in which he would actually be dead because he couldn’t activate his ability, but because he was killed by the vampire which is Brams ability he was able to use his ability
Beast dazai decides to play 💀
He is dead
Skill issue
@@Ananyasingh06150 shit forget about that
Where i can read beast ?
@@SorcererS7 I think it’s volume 6
@@SorcererS7what online?
Bro is on a roll rn in consistency
The only thing I’d like to point out is that Dazai has used fyodors manipulation technique with Chuuya in 15arc
we dont even know fyodors backstory 😭😭😭
I know right 😢
did not expect you to be here, love ur vids
Nanacue?!! >0
I think Fyodor is given far too much credit here and also from the author. There is no way he could have planned ahead that Aya steals Bram and that she draws out the sword 3-5 seconds before the world ended. Also, there are far too much ways too kill Fyodor off in prison without a vampire just with Dazai himself. And: Even if he predicted that Aya would do that, why weren't any vampires next to him in so many cases so that he can die instantly when they get to be overtaken by Bram??? There was also NO WAY he could have foreseen that the swords would be both next to him when he reawakes in Bram, he never knew the outcome of Fukuzawas and Fukuchis battle. So this whole plot is VERY full of logic holes in my perspective.
Content like this is exactly why I love this channel. Keep it up bro🔥
That was a good analysis on that exchange inside the prison cell.
For now it's clearly that fyodor is smarter taking that he's doing everything by his own unlike dazai as well but in the end dazai would win with the power of friendship and gayness so it doesn't really matter anyway
FRIENDSHIP AND GAYNESS LMAO😂😂
Eh it’s more like dazai is resourceful and using the tools around him while fyodor is sticking to himself
@@Koamzia bro literally was praying that ranpo would make a deal with bram to stop vampirism, like he didn't even plan it or something it was pure luck , also that chuuya thing was stupid as hell, fyodor is right no one can be trusted especially that he's in the evil side even if he wanted who would he trust anyway
@@Airi775 was this in the manga or something? I only saw the anime and I didn’t see anything about dazai praying or discussing his plans, there was no internal monologue.
@@Airi775 the thing about trust is fyp does flaw and what made fyodor loose, with the exact same type of thinking he was unable to make allies and make use of their abilities. Thats literally what dazai explained after he faked his death
Please more videos about Fyodor! I really enjoyed this video!
Off topic here but its crazy how fyodor is who knows how old but dazai is only 22 and is on his level. But fyodor still has advantages he probably has knowledge that dazai doesnt, but then again dazai has the power of friendship on his sidè😊
Also why do the captions say Theodore.
Crazy consistency
Hey fyodor had a advantage here as he is 1000+ years old and kept his ability a secret. Now that dazai knows of fyodor ability, i would say they are equals again
this is really good analysis. i feel like fyodor's initial plan was to have chuuya kill dazai, then have a vampire kill fyodor in the helicopter.
I loved this video so much! Keep up the good work!!!
YIPPIEEEE perfect for my current bsd phase
Honestly video suggestion
What and how many forms of intelligence are or you can go with top 10 or 5 and which form of intelligence is represented by which anime characters the best.
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I mean dazai ligit used fyoders manipulation tatic on chuuya at 15
I feel like since all of Dazai's "wins" over Fyodor were things that were just a part of Fyodor's plans, AND that it takes Dazai on the inside and Ranpo on the outside just to keep up with Fyodor is telling to how smart he is. That they need 2 super geniuses on their side to content with the ultra genius Demon Fyodor should on its own show who really comes out on top.
If it was just Dazai or just Ranpo vs Fyodor, it would easily be Fyodor as the victor imo.
Chosing a pathway that leads to victory that your oponnent can't see, means that you outplayed him.Fyodor wasn't alone in his schemes. He had people around him everytime, people over which he had more control than Dazai or Rampo. He literally had an army of zombies. Why Dazai won is because of his ability to read people and see beyond appearences, basically, seeing their potential. Fyodor was unable to have that kind of insight, that is why he lost. He basically lost because Dazai saw through him, and was expecting Fyodor to chose the security card. But Fyodor couldn't completely read Dazai, which is why he was surprised. Emotional intelligence is a part of intelligence aswell, and Dazai beat Fyodor because of that and chose the right pathway that led him to victory. You can say that Fyodor is a bit smarter, but Dazai is a bit more intelligent(asuming that intelligence encompases a larger area of abilities than just being able to manipulate information in your head, which is smartness).
@TuringTest-i5o Are you caught up on the manga? Bc if you are, you'd know that Fyodor expected Dazai to "win" against him in prison and even planned ahead for it to make sure he got exactly what he needed out of their little prison escape game. Dazai even told him that BECAUSE he predicted his ability was touch based (turns out it's not), he chose the helicopter death trap for Fyodor. But that was exactly what Fyodor was expecting Dazai to do. So in reality, dazai was always 2 steps behind.
If you aren't caught up, sorry for the spoilers, but just like you said, "choosing a path that leads you to victory that your opponent didn't expect means you outplayed him." That is literally what Fyodor just did to Dazai. He outplayed him.
Dostoyevsky is literally just better than Dazai, but that's ok. Bc I'm sure they'll win somehow.
@@brysonmark878 Oh, ok, didn't know that. Thanks ! I actually watched the anime only and thought about reading the manga, so I was looking to see if Fyodor is actually dead and I saw alot of people being unsure, which made me believe that in the manga he is still dead, or at least that there isn't something specific that suggests the fact that he is alive. I should read the manga. No worries for the spoilers, I got my answer.
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AHHHHHH I LOVE THIS FANDOM WATXHING IT AND ALR LOVING IT AT 2:26
They will always uses uno reverse this will not end and fyodor's still alive 😭😭😭
Canon Dazai version, this is my take.
FSIQ - Dazai >
FSEQ - Dazai
FSSQ - Dazai >
Mathematical Intelligence - Dazai
Fluid Intelligence - Dazai
Crystallized Intelligence - Fyodor
Experience - Fyodor >>
Knowledge - Fyodor >= (Depends on your perception of the book.)
Direct Manipulation - Dazai
Indirect Manipulation Fyodor >
Emotional Manipulation - Dazai >=
Individual Manipulation - Dazai
Mass Manipulation - Fyodor
Psychological Manipulation - Dazai >=
Pure Manipulation - Dazai = Fyodor
Misdirection - Fyodor >>>
Threats - Dazai = Fyodor
Dismissal - Dazai
Persuasion - Dazai >>
Deception - Fyodor
Deduction - Dazai
Inductive - Dazai
Abductive - Dazai
Observation - Dazai
Overall Thinking - Dazai
Logical Reasoning - Dazai >
LT Planning - Fyodor
Foresight - Fyodor >
Contigency - Fyodor >>
ST Planning - Dazai
LT Strategy - Dazai
ST Strategy - Dazai
Anticipation - Fyodor >=
Prediction - Dazai >=
Adaptability - Dazai
IRL - Dazai high diff
Non-IRL - Fyodor extreme diff
Fixed - Fyodor mid diff
Non - Fixed - Dazai high - extreme diff
With Influence - Fyodor - mid diff
Without Influence - Dazai - high diff
IRL From Scratch - Dazai - mid diff
From Scratch - Dazai - mid-high diff.
In my opinion, Fyodor planned all of S3 and beginning of S4. When Dazai got arrested, he had to adjust his plan, but the end goal was the same. Fyodor also didn't expect Nikolai busting them out for prison arc. But as long as Fyodor lives, wins, or reaches to the air port, his plan would work, so in reality, the prison game really didn't hold him back, it helped him for benefitting him and stalling Dazai. Dazai is wild though, its arguable that he anticipated or predicted entirety of s4-s5 even prison arc. Just not the aftermath of prison arc. I gave anticipation to Fyodor because Fyodor anticipated his death, although he didn't know Chuuya was a vampire and he didn't know how he would die, he still anticipated it. Fyodor had to improvise a lot especially because of Dazai's unpredictability. I would say Fyodor's biggest win con was his ability being kept hidden. Im going to be honest, but if Dazai knew about Fyodor's ability, Fyodor wouldn't have gotten past prison arc.
Fyodor wins high diff. Dazai prob gonna cook in like the next volume.
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fyodor vs light next ? (lmao)
Fyodor ❤ The Goat 🎉
I like this idea! 😍
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We gotta remember gng that Fyodor has hundreds of years of experience while dazai is only like a few years ⁉️
I'd rather be against Koji than these two mfs. Obviously I'm going to lose in both situations, but at least I won't have ptsd about it
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FSIQ - Animanga Dazai
FSEQ - Animanga Dazai
FSSQ - Animanga Dazai
Overall Manipulation - Fyodor >=
Deception - Fyodor
Logical Reasoning - Dazai
Overall Planning - Fyodor
Overall Strategy - Dazai
Overall Intelligence - Fyodor >=
Knowledge - Fyodor
Experience - Fyodor
Anticipation - Fyodor
Prediction - Dazai >=
Fyodor wins mid-high diff. Fyodor's planning got buffed to the point that its now top in top 2 easily in scd. Maybe even top 1. Tbh the only big buff for manipulation from Fyodor is indirect manipulation. And yes, he kind of planned it all the way from s3. He planned everything all the way up to before Dazai got arrested, then he had to change his plans. He didn't expect prison game. But it wouldn't change much since his plan for Fukuchi remained the same. But Dazai's logical reasoning also got buffed a lot in the past 2 chapters, arguably to Ranpo's level. Fyodor didn't expect Chuuya not being a vamp, But he did expect Dazai killing him through some way. He just didn't know what way. Dazai even said Fyodor was desperate not to be killed by the poison or by Dazai himself, meaning his ability won't work on things such as poison, illnesses, etc.
Props to asagiri, blue foreshadowed all of this in S3/ 70-80 chapters ago. In fact, Asagiri foreshadowed Aku's "Death" a long time ago too. Fyodor's ability was already foreshadowed in the anime ED or OP (I forgot).
Honestly, the new chapter buffs BEAST Dazai more than anyone. If I used canon Dazai, It would be high diff for Fyodor since it includes LN feats. But Beast Dazai > Fyodor no diff.
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Consistent avent is blitzing me, wtf 💀?
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look dazai is gonna step up and kill fyodor js watch alrrr
My goat
Next video you could do why akiyama vs yokoya isnt close
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Fyodor no diffs indeed
Jayoma vs law by Mike next🙏
they got bsd😭
6:12 but didn’t he have Chuuya on his side? From his point of view?
What about my bro rampo
why do i not understnaed
Can you do BB vs near vs mello or just BB vs near/mello
Is that... quiet death note music in the background?
Y
I did not see the anime they're from, but if it's anything like Death Note I'll give it a watch.
Seasons 2-5 are like death note, there is a manga and season 3 of the anime is shit compared to 4 and 5
The anime is bungou stray dogs, there are also light novels and mangas
@@sassyisland6599 okay
@@sassyisland6599 thanks
The anime is lowkey shit read the manga
BSD verse is the smartest verse imo
dazai better
i hate to admit it but yeah prob real
Fyodor is more sigma than Dazai livvy dunne gyatttttt
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Beast dazai enters.
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Dazai Will Win in the end though 🙃
And, Beast Dazai (No diff) 🥶
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