Forged in Fire: The Talwar CHARGES THROUGH the Final Round (Season 4) | History
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Two bladesmiths walk into a forge... and attempt to craft a talwar blade that will survive a gauntlet of brutal challenges, in this clip from Season 4, "Talwar." #ForgedInFire
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When are they on uk TV?
Hi
I think you should ask them to make an aruval which is a south indian blade which is widely used in india
Just a suggestion
Nice thx
To anyone who thinks Doug is a serial killer. He is not, he is a serial keeeler
Terrible joke but still made me laugh
Nathan Carabajal mission success
Serial smither
No decapitation? Not even a throat slit? That ballistics dummy must be gutted!
Hahha that one was good. But the first time I heard Dough saying that I reallsy thought he was.
Doug didn't cut a single head off... im disappointed
Same
Same especially after they said the weapon is known for taking heads 🙄
I dont think Doug didnt wanted it. Its more like the contestant’s design sucks for a real head chopper. Look at ancient original Indian talwar, u wont find it with thick blade and long hilts. Its slander with small hilt just enough room for one hand swing. Without exerting much energy head and limbs will be severed.
The sword isn’t meant for cutting off heads
Ya..i was looking forward to it...
One of the most underwhelming kill tests I've ever seen. Was so hoping for some head and neck slashes.
what kill test? there are only keeeeeel tests
I believe it’s due to the design of the tulwar. The disk pommel makes you use the sword in a way that favours a drawing cut or slice because it makes it uncomfortable to go for chops by digging into your wrists. Doug is probably not trained to use the tulwar as it was intended to be used so going for the head would have been uncomfortable for him
@@davidpavlovic4612 You got that right. Indian melee combat was largely about striking the body, and not the head.
Karl Dönitz It’s to force the user to cut a certain way. With a European Saber you hold it in a handshake grip and can rotate your wrist, flicking the sword outward to hack into the target. With the tulwar you’re locked into a hammer grip that keeps the sword at a 90 degree angle to your wrist. You can see this as they do the tests. Where the European sword movement is like cutting with an axe, the tulwar is like slicing a tomato, drawing the blade across the surface. Why the Indians preferred this type of cut I do not know. Maybe it has to due with the length of the wound as chopping will go deeper but a slice will make a longer cut. A downside to this type of cut is lack of range as compared to other ways of cutting. Scholagldiatoria has great videos on the subject if you are interested.
@@CS-Student I believe Indian rulers had a long history of bringing home the decapitated heads of enemy commanders or rulers. Beheading was pretty common in the battlefield.
Talwar used to be custom made for the each infantry men. So the handle situation here is acceptable.
This one was not custom made for the judges, though.
Interesting info Amit, thanks!
If that's the case, then he should of thought ahead and made the handle bigger...
Proof?
akshay kumar google?
Worst jobs on Earth:
- Septic tank cleaner
- Vomit taste tester
- Forged in fire ballistics dummy
Who tastes vomit?
What is the purpose at all ? To taste vomit ?
@@YaBoiDREX in some cultures, they only eat vomit.
@@slamminpamn Name the culture in question
Also, Forged in Fire Post-Kill Test janitor
Talwars have become one of my favourite sword types ever since this episode of Forged in Fire. Heck I bought 19th century Talwar from a military surplus store when I was in Victoria BC for vacation.
Most importantly "it will keel"
95% of weapons keeleed in this show
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keal*
Keep everyone alive
😏 It will kieaul
I die everytime I hear him say that 💀💀💀😂😂
Using an Indian styled sword to cut chunks of cow almost seems wrong.
It is wrong on Hinduism
Oh the irony
Maybe they were Punjabi Talwars?
I was thinking about that too.
This made me chuckle
The blades were nice but imagine forging that sword without power tools. Jordan's a freakin beast
Yeah man, I hands-down agree with you. Jordan's sheer commitment shoes in his sword.
shaggy sure has changed
Shaggy cleaned up didn't he
Clearly he’s changed he went from being a stoner hanging with a talking dog. To forging a sword strong enough to cleave three ribs in two swings
Hahahahahaha!
If Fred and Shaggy had a kid
7:21 "Thats what she said."🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂✌👌
XD
Dummy: we are happy today, it's our day, we have beaten Doug today
This talvaar were so deadly that the Maharana Pratap (Rajput King of Mevar) sliced Bahram Khan (Military general of Akbar) into 2 pieces along with his hoarse vertically with a single wing of this sword . Of course that warrior was too powerful . And he used to carry 2 swords , one for him and one for disarmed enemy in order to maintain fairness .
"Doug in the ballistics dummy. this is the test I wanted to see"
The reason why forged in fire is always on my homepage
*If you want to see a video on how to NOT cut with a tulwar watch this video.* The tulwar was designed for long drawing cuts using the back muscles with the wrist locked to the forearm, You do not want your wrist to move at all when cutting which is the reason for the large circular pommel end. This is a very different cutting style than used with European sabers.
The British have many first hand accounts during colonial India of tulwar doing devastating cuts, removing limbs, and cutting through entire torsos. However if you just smack something with the tip like the did in this video it's going to be very underwhelming. You have to draw the length of the blade in proper form. If you do, it's arguably one of the best cutting swords in the world.
Then it can also be done with a straight sword
Unfortunately the designs didn't help- the idea is to LOCK your wrist into that hilt so you don't use it, and those hilts didn't let that happen.
3:50 that was the only time I've ever seen that dude laugh and it was pretty adorable
If factors like how the handle feels will be factored into the final decision then the Smith's should be given appropriate parameters and one judge with a consistent hand size should do the testing. The talwar is an example of a blade where the size and fit of the handle is crutial for using it properly. One person's too small is another person's too big.
It seldom comes down to those particular details. More often the judges prioritize the weight and strength of the weapon. Lighter weapons always win over heavy weapons (as long as its role as a weapon isn't challenged by a lack of weight) and stronger weapons always win over weaker ones.
The problem is that in testing the weapon, it is swung by two or more people with drastically different hand sizes, so even if the handle construction is crucial to overall function of the weapon, it's still two or more people who has to swing the weapon properly. Custom made weapons made on commission for a single buyer should of course be custom fit, but most of these weapons are army weapons, made to be somewhat mass produceable, a regular soldier would likely never be able to get a great custom fit back in the day.
If you make a sword that's much lighter and/or stronger than your opponent's you'll never lose anyway. Sure, if your handle construction seriously does not work well for either wielder then you've messed up as the smith, because you likely never molded the weapon to fit even just yourself in that case.
I currently own 5 tulwars (have owned about 5 more). The hilts are always tight, they clamp your fingers together and the disc pommel digs into the bottom of the palm so you can't moulinet, you have to do full arm cuts.
@@Brigadier9 100%. I've also noticed talwars feel very awkward to people not trained to use them. Other one handed blades allow for more adjusting of the hand while the talwars forces you to have a tight hanmmer fist grip on it to condct the type of slashing cuts it was designed for.
@@kronos1794 Where could one receive training for wielding a talwar? Is there an Indian counterpart to HEMA?
@@mcwiwi5915 Unfortunately there aren't many schools for that around. You could get some basic ideas of draw cutting by practicing some saber traditions, but beyond that I'm not sure.
They both made absolutely beautiful sabres one way or the other - Jordan especially. From what they showed he had no modern blacksmithing implements to expedite his process.
Doug always put a smile on other face no matter that he never disappoint other .. that what i love about him
Jordan's Blade Is sharper also. You can see when it cuts the canes, they do not even move initially; also the ribs are evidently cutted deeply by his blade. Moreover, even with a sharper blade and so a presumably thinner blade, his sword does not have any damage.
Also that hilt was super sick.
The handle really a work of art
Two amazing blacksmiths for sure! To be able to make these in such a crunch time is amazing!
The blades were great, but I wish the smiths had done more research on tulwar handles, they are notoriously short and tight to enforce a particular grip style and the handles on both of these swords were simply too long.
Correct! That was my first impression when I saw some talwars in India, a long time ago. Short and tight handles for my European mind although I was aware that my knowledge of the swords was and is less than modest.👍⚔👀👳♂️
I know Doug is the edged weapon expert, but Dave looks very comfortable wielding a sword.
Dwarven steel lost? I expected more from their craftsmanship.
hahaha I thought the same, man has surpassed the dwarven
you know Elven is much better.
even the grandmaster armorer was taught by an elven master.
@@intellectracoon *laughs in fire giant*
Elven vs Dwarves, when its about swords of course the Elven win
I searched for this comment because I knew out there, were scumbags just like me.
The only reason people watch forged in fire
It will keel
The Roblox Guy talk for yourself
Eat Wheel Keel
Agreeeee
I think that will be the catchphrase.
Jordan made an amazing Talwar. Respect from India.
Jordan is such a beast
The inspiration for the 1796 British Light Cavalry Sabre and the Prussian Blücher Saber used through WW1
I dunno if it was the best choice using a Talwar on a slab of beef.
Ik
Probably the first time this Indian weapon cut through beef from a cow lol
underrated comment lol
fun fact: the brahmins (who today militantly profess the prohibition of cow meat eating) themselves used to be the biggest cow munchers on this land, a few millenia ago, while also cooking it in the cow's ghee (a milk product) to make it more savoury.
No problem a talwar is not a Hindu weapon.
@Peter Griffin The Vedas hahha
@@diplodocus3 where'd you learn that genius, from Romila Thapar's book !!? You know that the Aryan invasion theory has been debunked which basically discredits everything in her book, and yeah next time refer to someone who's credible rather than some fool who gives out statements baselessly and then makes a fool out of herself
The part where he uses a Talwar (Indian sword) to cut/ strike on beef. Yeah, Indians can relate :)
Lmao I was thinking the same thing
Mughal Empire approves.
Talwar was used by Indians. But mainly muslim indians from north and Turks origin.
Original Hindu Indian like the Tamils and Marathas usually used long straight swords.
Mera bhai ajj v banta hai main sikh hu je too kush v nhi hamere pass gold design wali hai
HAHA
I love how giddy Dave gets when swinging them around XD
You gotta feel for guys like David. That sword would have won most episodes
5:19 that edge alignement
Can´t help it, Jordan looks like Shaggy from Scooby Doo. I mean, gren shirt, brown pants, grey shoes and a wild medium brown hair cut? He nailed it.
Check it out Scoob I'm....kinda buff😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
Zoinks.
I've seen so many of this competitions in History Channel and still there be new blades I've never seen before
4:48
That's What She Said When She Used Both Holes...
I'm glad Jordan won. Imagine having to restart your work halfway through, blade and handle. His hardwork and perseverance really paid off.
But most important thing is - „it will keel“
Him saying that alone, is worth 10k
So happy to see the Talwar on the show. Also, "it will keeeeeeeeeel" YESSSSS
I'm guessing if David and Jordan were sent back in time to the era of the Marathas and Rajputs in India, our great rulers Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj (Maratha king and commander) and Maharana Prithviraj Chauhan (Rajput king) would have employed their services for sure. Great job, fellas! You did us Indians proud by bringing out the best in your "talwars". You guys should team up.
What gives bladesmiths feelings of power -
Good blade - 25%
Good handle - 15%
It will keel - 60%
Historically Talwars used to be in the w8 range of 15 to 25 kg. Now imagine a deadly stroke. King Maharana Pratap chopped a horseman along with horse into two with single stroke. His single sword used to weigh 25 kg.
Its a legacy that whenever talwar is kept on one finger on opposite side of blade, the blade positions itself towards sky, its straight towards sky, thats a good talwar, secondly it 1200to 1350 grams in weight,
He didn't cut head of those dummys ...
Now that gonna bother me through my whole life.
me too 😭
3:37 David looking his opponent up and down...that confidence is ‘short’ lived!
Seeing David get all giddy testing those sabers during the sharpness test made me so genuinely happy :)
Like a Dwarf and an Elf having a smith-off.
I am from India....I love it
Talwar not pure Indian.
Using a Talvar to slice through Beef ??? Man, God bless u.
Not Indian
피난민 추천 눌러라 ㅋㅋ
Nice saber, Shaggy.
Love these judges because I feel like i can judge with them on the weapons. They are true and honest and the weapons always speck for themselves! Ive always determined the winner of all blades because i guess i judge just like they due. Lol 😂
They should do this everytime and have comments for both competitors! There are so many close ones and so many that are way closer than this. So many times the losing competitor's weapon is truly excellent, but their competitor's is just slightly more excellent!
Why has most people who come on here “have never made a sword” or at least a really difficult one, wouldn’t you train before going on forged in fire?
I think it's mostly that the show headhunts accomplished smiths no matter what kind of smithing they do, leaving little or no room to practice if you're still doing your 9-5 non-weapon smithing.
It only serves to add credibility to their abilities as a smith if they can bang a competent blade out in a competitive time frame when they've never done it before.
The market is for knives, therefore swords would only be created if a smith was experimenting or living in a region where there is a high enough demand. Most people who want hand forged steel are not looking for as much as a sword with as little utility. Plainly, even if a smith has the skill and experience to produce a sword, they may not have the incentive to.
@@Elrohof Yeah, plus most of them are knife-makers which gives them just enough expertise
Gregory F. Cherry the best sword smiths are back ordered for years so idk about that
Forging a sword is mpre difficult than any other forging job. Forges people use at home are design for smaller blades which makes everything lot harder because you can only heat a small area .
My Gurus used these types of sword.
Sword is called "Talwar" "تلوار" in urdu/ hindi. The sword shown in this episode was most commonly used sword in subcontinent but there are many other types as well which are also called Talwar.
Lmao
@CARNAGE !!! It's hindi word taken from sanskrit.. Not farsi
@CARNAGE !!! No it's hindi word taken from sanskrit.... Farsi word is shamsir... Hindi is derived from sanskrit and farsi has no connection from sanskrit language... So how can be a sanskrit word be farsi word??
@CARNAGE !!! The language u are talking about that's avestan... And talwar has no connection with farsi... Persian use shamshir word for sword... Where hindi use talwar for sword.... U can get this basic knowledge by just single google search
@CARNAGE !!! And talwar is laon word in farsi (only in indian subcontinent)
Jordan sword really beautiful, and strong. Really a master piece
Hmm, I was half expecting a Nodachi. Well, at least they’re prepared this time.
I'm here for the "it will keeel"
Jordan was calm cool and collected the whole time. By far my favorite competetor
It was the arms lol
Deabo, look out! That's not a talwar, it's an Odachi!
Not so satisfied with the kill test
Jordan looks like a giant to David
Rajput sword once it comes out of its sheath it had to take blood either of enemy or swordman's himself .
Even if it happened by mistake People would cut their own fingers to regard the tradition.
The laughs at 3:53 hahahaha
Judge: Hhaaa
Smith: Hsssh
xD xD
"Still straight still tight.."
"I love sabers" - well, mr. Baker, who doesn't love sabers? ❤
The winning swords handle is a work of art
I'm always amazed by those who use charcoal to forge. Well done
As a Rajput I can say that the heavier the sword is the better it will give damage to the enemies 👍
Jordan looks like he could be a Hanson Brother from the Slap Shot movies.
Did you see those warriors from Hammerfell? They had curved swords. Curved. Swords..
Lol it's a weapon from Hinduism
Do you ever just yell “that’s it!” Or just get upset When Doug only does a few slashes on a ballistic dummy test.
Lighter blade.. doesn't break
The Winner
I love how much Dave likes sabers
None of the talwars forged are battle usable. Though there are many designes of talwars across India but one basic design is battle tested design. That design is so agile & sharp that cutting an animal would be like cutting a chunk of butter.
The recent incident of using a talwar is from Punjab. A violent man used his talwar & chopped off a hand of a police constable when he stopped the man from forcefully entering a market during lockdown. If you see the video, you will get to know what a talwar can do...
BTW, the police constable is alive & his cut off limbs were placed as it was & he is recovering...
Exactly, ancient genuine talwar comes with short hilt but enough to severe limbs. Not these long hilt swords.
Furthermore, genuine battle tested swords and design are nothing compared with parade sword we usually seen in Museum. Less ornament and more deathly edge.
Yaa true brother that's what I was thinking too..........Even tho I just love Doug He is clearly Not trained to use a Talwar.
@@anmolshoral no training required to do just a cutting test.
@@RUPEETRADER It is required. Different weapons have different holding technique, Swing techniques and Cutting/Thrusting angles.......so yeahh Proper training is required
@@anmolshoral so, what is holding technique for talwar. If you know please tell.
Pretty sure they avoided beheading because it is prone to damaging the edge of blades, they sometimes do the strength test last for blades more focused on cutting, although swords known for beheading opponents should probably be tested to do so
5:06 shaggy looks a little different lol
You just look at the way Jordon was going about making his blade and you know he won.
I hope this great channel reaches 6 Million subscribers soon!
Edit: just happened!! Congratulations!!
I will never become a blacksmith but i love these videos
That kill test was lame
Yeah I wanted to see the head off
Never thought Shaggy knew how to forge blades!
Ironic that one Talwar ended up falling short 😏 (serious note: both forgers were great)
David Baker: the equivalent of your friends Cool dad who makes and builds swords
They finally did the sharpness test first
Doug's every episode: "it will kill"
Hands Doug my spoon: "it will kill"
Last time I was this early Ben was a contestant and not a judge
The handle should be short enough so your hand barely fits between the guard and the pummel. It is supposed to be so to restrict any wrist movement when using the tulwar.
Uses a Talwar, doesn't chop any heads off.
Disappointed as a Hindu.
Talwar not a Hindu weapon.
@@RUPEETRADER you are mistaken buddy
@@realAK101 as a Hindu I can understand but tulwar was mughal invention. Before that we used straight broad sword like khanda. Which was heavy and cannot thrust. Not only talwar, other swords like shamshir zulfiqar, saif( straight sword), composite bow(kamaan), firearms, flanged mace, zhagnal (pick axe), char aina (plate armour), choora (Afghan/khyber knife), khanjar, peshkabz(dagger) were introduced by Muslims.
@@RUPEETRADER Composite bow was introduced by Aryans and later by Huns. Curved sword existed much before Islamic invasion.
13thHoneyBadger wrecked by West Nile virus hm
There’s always a problem these people encounter when making their weapon but always have some sort of solution
TALWAR is worshipped all-over the BHARAT 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
😂😂😂😂
Jordan you not only win best blade, but you also win the best costume as shaggy
👌🙌❤Nice job 🙏
i personally fancied the other gentleman’s sword. the shape of the saber was quite fire.
These arent genuine Talwar. A true talwar werent come with long hilt. Its short hilt is adequate to be held with one hand and swing with deadly force without exerting much energy.
Especially with a draw cut.
sameer thakur yes..: i realised contestant in This show doesnt really know Asian sword.
Even for chinese sword, they forged a fantasy version rather than historically correct version. Genuine Chinese dao is slender, long and single edge with longer hilt capable of using it single handed or two handed.
Not some fancy huge broad sword shown in movies.
A genuine talwar will cut in a same manner.
@@jackalshine1369 chinese used different swords in different time periods.
0:30 "Our panel of expert judges... ehem EXPERT JUDGES... Doug, wake up!"
I Thought that the guy in the miniature was Phil Swift