Notching & Welding Pipe Fence Brace for First Time. Definitely a Learning Day.
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notch them in a drill press or a milling machine with a cutter that is the same diameter as the pipe. Clean perfect cuts.
Have been watching your original property clearing videos from eight years ago. The amount of work is mind boggling. Thanks again for responding to me when Pete was out of touch. Between you and Pete my reclining chair farmer fantasies are fulfilled!! Will really enjoy your home building videos. best to you and family! 🇺🇸
Tyler over on Farmer Tyler Ranch may offer some good clues on pipe fencing. He's innovative and knows welding.
Agree, he put out some videos on this, he really mastered it!!
@@boeroe45Yeah I have watched several of Tyler’s videos. There’s a lot of subjects that he has covered since I first started watching his videos.
I enjoy your videos. You aren't afraid to share that you are learning. Keep up the great work. 🙂
Watched Farmer Tyler go through a very similar process and learned a ton. Now I'm learning from you. 😁
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Watch Austin Ross or FTR for insights. Grinding and cleaning will help. Great idea for stands!!! Stay farmer strong
I was just thinking about recommending Austin Ross videos, Pipe welder extraordinaire!
Like the video Evan welding a new fence .
You are a smart mother für. Love watching your videos
I wish I thought of the layout jig had to freehand copes my whole career. A dollar bill is a perfect pipe wrap for square cuts
Why not shop build all of them Evan? A suggestion when fitting your joint; tack weld at 4 points before running your continuous bead. You can use your Mig welder in the shop. With rusty old pipe like that you are going to have to grind a clean spot for a good ground on the straight pipe where your bead will go and one for your ground. You can standardize the design and build straight runs and corners right in your shop. Sandblast them, paint them and you can fork them out into the general location all ready to go before you dig your holes. Drop the fabrication into the hole, level it up and cement them in. Make your corners in two pieces and weld them at the proper angle in the field.👍
I think that would be much faster and produce a better product than working that old rusty pipe out in the field. 😊
Evan, check your tractor’s left front tire. It looks low on air. Great video
Farmer Tylor Ranch had a jig for doing those end cuts. You may want to check that out. Enjoy your videos.
Grind the outside of the pipe in the areas where the pipes contact each other. Rust interferes with welding. Use 6011 or 6013 for first pass and get your amps right, then grind first pass lightly, then use 7018 on your second pass. 7018 will give you a smoother weld. Make sure your rods are dry. You can put them in an oven and heat them a bit.
7018 is for DC, 7014 is for AC, just make sure you clean them where you weld, they like a clean metal
Love the Stands - Your so Resourceful -Fun to watch
Evan I have been working on building our fence with used oil field pipe and I use the pipe cutting guide as a plasma guide when nothing. I keep a bucket of water near by and drop the guide in after each cut and it works a lot better than trying to follow a marked line. I also use a chalk line as a straight line to line up the saddles.
Pro tip use white out pen when marking on metal to cut with plasma cutter or cutting torches the white out will not burn away from the heat
Always interesting as you tackle new projects and new skills. Very clever building the stands. Your ingenuity ever fails to inspire. Kudos 👍👍👍
Evan I enjoy the fact that you film all your projects showing the real you. You are not afraid of making mistakes because you don't know. That is showing the real side of you. Thanks for doing them that way. One suggestion I would make to notch the pipes is to use a metal cutting hole saw the same diameter as the outside of the pipe. Put it in a drill press and when you cut through the pipe at any angle the pieces will fit together much closer. Keep making great videos. Thank you. Art
Farmer Tyler Ranch has some great videos on how he’s worked all of that out quite nicely. Might be worth taking a look, but you do what suites you best!! :-)
Farmer Tyler has several videos about this type of coral fencing.
Evan, you're so innovative. Nifty use of the discs for the stands.
Thank you Evan for sharing! Looks great!
Hey always enjoy watching you guys , there’s a video on cutting saddles with a chop saw, it will make your life easier . Enjoy, have a peachy day
I agree with others that if you clean the rust off the pipe before using your plasma cutter to cut the saddle in the pipe, use a finer white tipped marking pen to follow your template, and figure the best way to use the pipe to steady your hand, your gaps will be decreased. But, your way works too, and don't see those welds failing for your intended purpose of the pipe. Nice quick fabrication and results of the pipe stands.
I have been watching Bad Chad ,he is a great person who makes Cars . He weld a lot He uses a coat hanger to fill out the gaps ❤❤
If you go back a bit. Farmer Tyler ranch just did all this. The boy is a genius when it come to welding.
You may want to see hoe Farmer Tyler Ranch did his fence welding, he had a good system going. Enjoy your channel!
The difference between a bad welder and a good welder, ---- a good grinder.
You are not afraid to jump into anything new. Tack weld the nuts to the pipe then you can turn the cradles without removing.
Real nice set up for your pipe welding.
You can reduce the gaps by grinding the tongues on your notches down further before welding.
Your biggest problem is not the gaps. It is that you did not clean the rusty surfaces. You need to take the time to clean the rust off the weld area to get a good clean weld with a stick! I would recommend using a "5/32" - 1/8 6013" rod rather than a 7018 on those pipes!
I can attest to that. I can stick weld, but I can't cut metal straight to save my life. You can burn through more rust with stick than other methods, but there is no reason to leave it there and have a science experiment going on in your weld. I'll weld through mill scale with stick, but that is about it unless I just can't clean it for whatever reason. Laziness being a reason at times.
Why the 6013 over the 7018?
Another thing to get is a soapstone marker for marking the pipe. I have one and works really good.
and my personal preference is the silver marking pencil (like a mechanical pencil with a replaceable lead... a lot finer line than soapstone (though more expensive... but probably cheaper than sharpies)
Use soapstone marker . Rest your arm on pipe when cutting with a torch or plasma cutter. You can not cut smooth free hand. 40 year union pipefitter.
We found your channel and binge watched from home building until this video. We enjoyed your travels and experiences to this point.
Love the toys you have Evan, Plasma cutter, I could only dream of one of those, steel cutting chop saws. I have to admit. you have a great work shop setup to cover just about all your needs. well done. I learned on a stick welder and (at 80 yrs old ) am learning to mig weld just picked one up not too long ago so ! one is never to old to learn and you are humble enough to share that ! well done and thanks for sharing ECF
Good job. I really like the stands.
Evan, use a notching jig in your milling machine......makes nice cuts, you already got nice stands to hold the pipe at the mill.....love what yall are doing......
Nice fabrication job Evan!!!
You may find it easier to set your post in the holes & cement them in, then come back and weld the braces in the field.
Thats the way we always built pipe fences, arenas, corrals & pens
Portable band saw to make your saddle(notch ) works wonders!!!
Evan cattle and sheep won't judge welds. If it works and holds the look and uniformity will come.👍👍
Really like your stands. Especially the Disk Blades for footings. Its not cutting a notch, it called saddling the pipe. You're cutting a saddle for the other pipe to set in. Oh yeah the bulge in the pipe is called an "upset". Your welds will be stronger and last longer if you would clean the RUST off the Weld area with the Grinder before welding.
When you have gaps to fill with stick welding you can use small pieces of scrap metal. Steel washers always make a good substitute.
Enjoyed your video keep them coming. That notch template you purchased I think worked great
Rather than fab an 18' long piece - I'd fixture up for a 9' brace that you can flip (mirror image. At the center, you'll have two posts side by side set in cement. You can weld the two posts at the top in the field if you think it's necessary.
Can you build a fixture on your shop table for a 9' brace? With your drop saw, your plasma cutter, your Mig welder, a table top fixture on a nice flat slab, you could blow these out a lot faster than stick building them one at a time on rough ground. That's my 2 cents worth 😊
Good work is by nature a process of patient set-up. Area preparedness, tool selection, hold down and safety considerations, tool alignment and sharpness, test run and evaluation, then the principle work followed by clean up and put away. This was a good demonstration of best practices. Nice production.
You should use the tractor driven generator and your wire welder in the field. It's a home project and you might as well make it as easy on yourself as possible.
Looks like you did pretty good! Keep up the good work
I like your welding stands. Keep trying, and the stick welding and plasma cutting will become “old hat” to you.
Enjoy watching you try anything. Even things you haven’t tried.
Great homestead or farm videos. Evan, thanks for sharing your farm life. ❤😎👍🐃🐐🐖🇺🇸👀💯😊♥️🙋♂️
Hi Ivan, there’s actually a attachment that you can put on your bench drill that will cut to correct way, and it might save you. A lot of headache depend on how many you need to do.
You might want to go to Farmer Tyler Ranch videos to get some ideas on fitting oil pipe. He made a jig out of a piece of pipe. I enjoy your videos very much.
As a licesed welder all my life an now retired but still do a lot of welding repairs an mfg at home for farmers contractors. I have always said what was hammered into my head right from shop class in high school. No one picks up a mig welder until you learn an get the basics down 100%
1- you start off stacking dimes on sheet metal with a torch with no filler rod
2 - once you got #1 down to a tee you repeat #1 but adding filler rod
3- once you got 1 an 2 down pat and Consistent, you move to
4- stick welding stringer beads with 3/32 7018 nice an tight to each other length wise around a 3" pipe 8" long with out moving the pipe. In fact the pipe is tac welded to a rod that tac welded out from welding table. You weld end plugs on an 2 x shape round bars for legs an torch cut top open for ash tray. You keep making them until every weld looks the same start to finish an nice an smoth. No grinding alowed. Wire wheel yes. Once you got that down an have leaned how to watch an work your puddle. Then your ready to pick up a mig an make the same pipe ash trays. You never weld anything that can kill or hurt anyone or anything until you have fully learned what needs to be learned an never stop learning
Great project! I watch daily. I also watch Farmer Tylers Ranch he shows the entire project for welding and building oil pipe fencing . Might be worth it to see if he has any shortcuts. I really appreciate your vlogs. ❤
Evan,
A tip to help you when your using an arc welder and you have a large gap.
Weld along one side of the gap, not over the top of the whole gap. Then weld along the other side of the gap.
The weld itself will be stronger than the original material you are trying to weld.
Then all you do is weld each side of the gap moving along the face of where you previously welded and slowly filling it in.
Not bridging over the whole gap until you have reduced the gap so that the two sides are almost touching. Then you can run a final weld down the middle
Do you understand what I am saying ?
Thanks Neil
Oil pipe is typically charged electronically, meaning magnetic. Makes it harder to weld when you are new to working with it. Many people struggle with it. You did well
I agree with you... I was surprised you did as well as you did Evan. My first time, i had a heck of a time, and did way worse than you did! (kept blowing holes... on low amp, i'd stick the rod... higher amp, blowing holes!)
When filling gaps between metals us other welding rods. The smaller gaps use 1 rod, lager gaps use 2+ to fill in
Also remember to remove flux before welding
I am a novice welder at best but have seen people face gaps out in the field without many resources but they used old bolts or scrap metal to help fill in gaps in an emergency or quick fix.
Great job!
Well done my man. Remember we are not born with all knowledge. Life is going to be a learning experience my friend, you know this. No one is great at everything they do ,or the things that need to be done. So take your time learn as you go. Always just do the best that you can and the rest will take care of itself. God Bless you and yours my friend .
That disc will make a good cooker
I always enjoy your shows. You remind me of myself. I’m now 82 don’t do a lot now, I live in Las Vegas. In the summer I work at my daughter’s farm in Chesterton Indiana. God bless jim80
I’ll tell you what, if you gave me a plasma cutter and a junk car. I could entertain myself all day.
Also farmertylerranch is a great channel and he has perfected welding on oil pipe
We all need more experience! Great job!
Mig welding is easy. Stick welding is the real deal and shows how good of a welder one is😅
You already have a chop saw. Set the table to 32 degrees and it's perfect for notching saddles. See Luthi Ranch - How I Cut Saddles In Pipe With a Chop Saw-Descriptive Version- on here.
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Farmer Tyler ranch has done it several times, so you can watch his videos for another point of view.
Great job ,Evan ! I LOVE YOU GUYS !!!!!!!! 🥰 🥰
Evan drag your plasma cuts, don’t push your cuts like you did in the video! Also turn your pipe away from you like you cut them. Clean the pipe where you ground the clamp also where you cut it creates a better electrical connection.
Evan you know you can use that jig on the pipe. Back it up an bit fit your plasma head in there and use the jig to cut. Allot cleaner cuts.
Have you seen Farmer Tyler Ranch? He recently used that pipe to make fencing. You might be able to get some tips if you find those videos! He cleaned up the pipe before welding...
I like what you did with the stands, neat idea. Good luck on the fence. Have a great evening.
To fill a gap use a 16 penny or thicker nail to lay into it and weld it in.
Good job.
Awesome Even
Evan I'm not a welder at all, but my advice is to wire wheel the pipe till it's nice and shiny before you weld it.
Sand / wire brush before welding. Use 6011, much better for old rusty metal. Or even better, get some E71T-11 gas-less wire for your mig. (Just be sure to change the polarity DCEN at the welding machine.) It also does a better job on dirty / rusty metal. Keep the hood down and keep practicing, that is how you learn!!
It is much easier if the pipe is clean before welding!
thx for sharing
Dang nabbit BAU BAU! Great job!!
@arosswelding has a lot of great videos on stick welding pipe fences and braces. Especially if you are looking for what rods and settings to try.
You could try redrawing the line after you make the cut so that you have a better reference to do the finish grinding.
Let me throw you an idea. Using your press crush the ends to fit up to your posts. Maybe it would help make the process easier. Love the content keep.
Wow! The plasma cutter makes short work of that pipe. You have lotsa fun tools. :)
Look 👀 good Evan,Ed from Vermont
Congrats Evan, on setting-up the pipes so that u can weld them together.. will make a great fence..
Nice video,,,I love your channel
YOU CAN USE A HOLE SAW IN A DRILL PRESS TO MAKE A CLEAN NOTCH,
When filling big gaps use a second rod in your other hand and burn both at same time. Kind of like gas welding with an arc instead gas. Doubles your filler rod. You make less passes = quicker. I ben doing this for years.
If you use a flat disc to get rid of some of the surface rust on the pipes then the when you rest the plasma cutter on the pipe you would have a smoother cut and not so uneven, but for first attempt not bad at all 👍🏻
great job
Very interesting video . Going to look good when done.
Every day is a school day Evan.
If you are not subscribed to Farmer Tyler Ranch, I highly recommend you do. He has made many, many, feet of fence line using this technique. You can learn a lot from his channel. Thanks for your videos.
Keep a short section of pipe to be able to check your notch as you grind/clean. Also, clean ALL surfaces from rust, dirt, even the plasma cutter will leave dross or impurities where you want to weld.
Just a tip, when welding rusty metal you should use a 6011 rod. They are almost as strong as a 7018. I have been using them for 50 years 😊
Ground off the rust . Will weld a hold lot better. Watch your heat and use the proper tod. Perhaps 2018. Your joint are good. There is always area to fill in. And you the open are to make good weld. It is best spot before the first pass the second pass is the clean up to make look pretty and fill in any hold. Sometimes oilfield pipe will be magnet. That pipe that was used.
Use a chalk line to transfer line to other side of pipe.
Evan, check with Farmer Tyler Ranch if you need help with cutting pipe with the plasma cutter.
Nice video. Watch FTR video where he build oil pipe fence in his corrall. He has lots of tips and tehniques.