Excellent, LIKE!. 1. NE5532: bright, clear. 2. OPA2134: smooth, full balance. All others sound dull, AD823 clipps. It might not show on the scope, but I can hear it on your test. Good show. want to say this. bought an Op-Amp kit online and think they are all the same. (fakes). Amazon
Thanks brother, my esp p97 preamp sound problem solved because of your frequency graph.replaced jrc 5532d with jrc 4556ad.i prefer the sound of jrc 4556 and jrc 4558
I am a little skeptical… some of the labeling on the ICs look a little sketchy. Be interesting if you could (with a Q-Tip and a little Acetone) test to see if the labeling wipes off on any of these OP Amps. There are a lot of fakes (rebranded) Op Amps being sold (Amazon, EBay, Ali, etc).
Use +/-V with "real ground" rather than virtual ground, the opamp freq. response will be flat for the load its designed for , e.g. JRC 4556 +/-15V into 150 Ohms or +/-5V into 32 Ohms, while NE5532 +/-15V into 600 Ohms. Not all opamps are designed for headphones but some like JRC4556 can be paralleled for higher output current. Some opamps can work with only 2K Ohms or above and specifically designed for either Audio or Video applications only. Everything is mentioned in datasheets
TL072 ketinggalan. Yg kuat menggerakkan headphone cuma 4556 & 4580. Type lain cuma kuat dibebani di atas 600Ω. Kalau dibebani kurang dr 600Ω, distorsi akan parah. Catu 2×9V menurunkan performa slew rate, mengurangi respons 16kHz. Signetics 5532 bahkan sering dicatu 2×18V. Orientasi penerapan CA3240 adalah utk pengukuran & otomatisasi (kontrol suhu, kontrol intensitas cahaya, kontrol tekanan, kontrol kecepatan, jaringan PID, kontrol frekuensi (PLL), kontrol eksitasi), kurang cocok utk audio. Salam genimili
Much depends on the type of circuit and the gain. For example, we know that in the late 70s those who used the TL072 avoided amplifying it beyond X5 and used 2 inverting in series. If I want an X10 amplification, then I will put two inverting ones with identical gain x3.2+x3.2 approximately and I will have very low distortion. And then the TL072 sounds very well at 36 volts but worsens the sound quality by reducing the volts. Now you know that things are not as simple as you thought. Greetings from Italy
entahlah sy gak merasa perbedaanya waktu uji suara bass,mid,hight saya rasa hampir sama..kecuali di pengujian data baru beda..atau kuping sy yg error....pakai headset audio technica M50X
I think, this test is to inform which op amp suits our needs under the same conditions because they have the same design (8 pins). different situation if we want to maximize a potential of the op amp. If you have chosen an OP amp, then you can tweak it later
@@dedskin1 no, it can be true, this is just about different point of view, for my need, i will prioritize find Op Amp that have less distortion and warm clean sound, weakness about low response for some frequency then i can tweak with my equalizer later
@@arinov77 Look its not exactly like that , you wont get a best amp with best sound just by going for most expensive op amp . People pay 100$ per op amp , for their CD players , crazy stuff , they also dont know what im going to tell you . Best opamp in a bad circuit will be worse then bad opamp in a good circuit . If an opamp has low noise it wont matter if you PSU is noisy , if your PCB is bad there is nothing op amp can do about it . Things get complex in a hurry once you want to get a Circuit as good as worst op amps . Becasue even the worst ones are very good , better then you PSU or board . How you use it will make the difference , make a good board and circuit that works fine with bad op amp , then get a better op amp . That is my advice, of course you can get good ones , but dont expect youll get best results just because you have purchased best parts .
@@dedskin1 The Author trying to make simple best custom DIY circuit and make PCB on Proffesiona,l PCB maker, i think this is enough for general testing purpose. For ordinary users in general, they will not focus on optimizing the design of the audio equipment circuit because it is too complex, what can be done is to upgrade the components in it, such as capacitors with better quality, better IC performance, etc. Even major electronics manufacturers (example: Marantz, Sansui, Yamaha, Kenwood and others) make audio equipment that can produce different output sound characteristics even though they use the same power IC chip. There is indeed an element of trial and error in this, if you are lucky the OP Amp chip you buy matches the audio circuit you have and can work optimally. For expert users, you can check the IC OP amp datasheet to be purchased and match it with the audio circuit you have so that it can work optimally.
I don't understand your frequency response figures. I have tested the 5532 and it's completely flat from DC to over 100khz with the gain set to 5. Why your measured ICs are up and down like that makes no sense at all. Most op amps have similar frequency responses, flat from DC then sloping off at VERY high frequency. They do not go up and down within the audio spectrum.
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Bang barlex mau nanya dok...untuk kit crossover aktif subwoofer merk bell agar suara bas dominan lembut glerrr/petikan bas bukan dug(drum) dan dung(petikan bass mid) diganti ic model apa....saya sukanya karakter bass glerr lembut.
Itu menentukan kapasitor 100nf-470nf buat proteksi speaker gimana ya om? Kalau semakin besar ukurannya ngaruhnya ke apa ya? Mohon dijawab ya om. Terimakasih banyakk 😬🙏
I have replaced 4580 with NE5532 inside my old Logitech z5500 and i really noticed a difference, it sounds much better , but i have to find a way to lower voltage because 4580 is feed with+-18v and they recommend +-15v for NE5532 ....in the past i have replaced the 2 regulators from subwoofer main board to lower voltage to +-15v for all the op amps but it seems the ic's screen doesn't like18v so the screen was blurred,i had to reverse everything.....i am thinking to use two 15v zener diodes for each op- NE5532 to replace the resistors before pins 4and 8 of the operational, the role of that resistor is to lower voltage just a little but under the 18v .....aprox 17,8v 🤔
@@tibby1239 Both, ne5532 for control pod and opa1650 or other opa ( can't remember which one )for subwoofer , in my opinion sounds better but i think ne5532 its at it's edge because the voltage there its +-18 and ne5532 max voltage its +-18v but recommend working voltages it's less , i think I will replace them all with OPA
@@smamas114 i read the mod forum. A lot of people used opa1602 and opa1612. But what about the caps. Did u change the capacitors as well or just op-amps. Can the subwoofer produce deeper bass with this. How can you bypass the subsonic filter in the z5500 system?
@@tibby1239 I did changed only the op-amp and i ve tried to change some capacitors for the low bass filter but it didn't worked probably because i ve tried that only in the console , if you check the schematic there is a capacitor which is responsible for that , probably you need to change also something inside the subwoofer in order to work
Bedanya ne 5532 signetic dengan ne 5532 biasa apa kak. Trus saya punya power ic nya pake ic 4580 kalu langsung gnti ic ne 5532. Lngsung gnti icnya atau ada penambahan komponen lain kak
Excellent, LIKE!. 1. NE5532: bright, clear. 2. OPA2134: smooth, full balance. All others sound dull, AD823 clipps. It might not show on the scope, but I can hear it on your test. Good show. want to say this. bought an Op-Amp kit online and think they are all the same. (fakes). Amazon
Tremakasih bung. Anda konsisten dengan menyajikan konten ic. Sangat inspiratif dgn test uji dan hasil yg faktual.
Baru liat ada channel yg isi video nya ajeeeb dan berguna bagi yg suka oprek opamp 👍👍👍
Auto subrek 🤣🎉
Wahh sangat membantu jadi bisa menentukan karakter,, saya pilih ne5532 karna lebih flat dari yg lainnya
Thanks brother, my esp p97 preamp sound problem solved because of your frequency graph.replaced jrc 5532d with jrc 4556ad.i prefer the sound of jrc 4556 and jrc 4558
I am a little skeptical… some of the labeling on the ICs look a little sketchy. Be interesting if you could (with a Q-Tip and a little Acetone) test to see if the labeling wipes off on any of these OP Amps. There are a lot of fakes (rebranded) Op Amps being sold (Amazon, EBay, Ali, etc).
Good demonstration.... you can also include mitsubishi M5218 op amp
Use +/-V with "real ground" rather than virtual ground, the opamp freq. response will be flat for the load its designed for , e.g. JRC 4556 +/-15V into 150 Ohms or +/-5V into 32 Ohms, while NE5532 +/-15V into 600 Ohms. Not all opamps are designed for headphones but some like JRC4556 can be paralleled for higher output current. Some opamps can work with only 2K Ohms or above and specifically designed for either Audio or Video applications only. Everything is mentioned in datasheets
TL072 ketinggalan.
Yg kuat menggerakkan headphone cuma 4556 & 4580. Type lain cuma kuat dibebani di atas 600Ω. Kalau dibebani kurang dr 600Ω, distorsi akan parah.
Catu 2×9V menurunkan performa slew rate, mengurangi respons 16kHz. Signetics 5532 bahkan sering dicatu 2×18V.
Orientasi penerapan CA3240 adalah utk pengukuran & otomatisasi (kontrol suhu, kontrol intensitas cahaya, kontrol tekanan, kontrol kecepatan, jaringan PID, kontrol frekuensi (PLL), kontrol eksitasi), kurang cocok utk audio.
Salam genimili
Kalok ic op amp dbx 260 kw jrc 4580 diganti apa lur.... Supaya lebih bagus tp gk mahal2 amat...
@@gelaspecah2119 M5216
@@iblesbosuok ad823 dan 4558 minimal & maksimal nya pake brp volt pak ?
15v cukup
Ic LM4562 buat ganti ic DLMS bisa tidak mas ?
penyampaianya sangat membantu ,,,ga hanya cari sensasi ,semoga ilmu yg bermanfaat sob ,,,lanjutkan ,
Much depends on the type of circuit and the gain.
For example, we know that in the late 70s those who used the TL072 avoided amplifying it beyond X5 and used 2 inverting in series.
If I want an X10 amplification, then I will put two inverting ones with identical gain x3.2+x3.2
approximately and I will have very low distortion.
And then the TL072 sounds very well at 36 volts but worsens the sound quality by reducing the volts.
Now you know that things are not as simple as you thought.
Greetings from Italy
Trima kasih ilmunya bang. Q tunggu kreasi berikutnya. Smoga banyak rizeki.
amiin
Masalahnya tiap opamp berbeda om kalau dipakain buat buffer, crossover atau gain stage. Baik di satu aplikasi belum tentu baik untuk aplikasi lain
Kesimpulan dan hasil akhir IC type apa yang terbaik dan paling lengkap freq-nya ( Untuk Tone Contol / Buffer )
Mas klo buat power clas TD buat subwofer enakan pake yang nma ..? Supaya subwofer bulet dan nendang buat acara dangdutan ... Mohon di jawab 🙏
best comparison on youtube, imho...congrats. missed the tl072 (was in vid of 2018)
JRC4560D diantara yang lain paling sip di telingaku sih, warm karena aku suka eq tipikal jazz
good terima kasih bnyk sudah membuat comparasi hingga begitu detail
halo mas.. rekues boleh mas.. cobain ic ad826, Jrc5532, jrc072, ad827, opa2604 dong.. gimana hasilnya..
Oke booooosku 👍 terimakasih atas totoreyal nya
Great job 👍 i was looking for this
wong luar melu2 wae
Mantap banget... Sangat membantu untuk menentukan toon control
You could also ask excel to trace the average to actually 'see' if the opamp tents to be a bass or high frequency like.
Bro we need this kind of review in other op amps out there. Please make lot of videos about op amps.
5532 slalu dihati... btw nice info.. sangat membantu...👍👍👍
entahlah sy gak merasa perbedaanya waktu uji suara bass,mid,hight saya rasa hampir sama..kecuali di pengujian data baru beda..atau kuping sy yg error....pakai headset audio technica M50X
tlong review ic jrc 4560 dan njm2068
LF353 es mejor que el NE5532, tiene la mejor gráfica de rango y respuesta en todas las frecuencias.
LF353 definitivamente es el campeón de campeones!!
Thanks brother, this is very useful information for DIYers.can u do more such tests including opamps like texas instruments ne5532, jrc 5532d.
om kalo buat rakit efek gitar bagusan yg mna kira2 yg gain ny tinggi. bls om🙏💯 pemula
Apakah 4558 bisa menggantikan 4580 pada amplifier toa za 1121, mohon bantu jawab ya mas 🙏
Oke bos matap 🙏👍👍👍
Wah pembahasan yang sangat bermanfaat buat penggemar audio nih bang mantap 👍👍👍
is the data file available? It would be nice to see a log freq response chart with all the opamps in dB . Good job !
Mungkin suaranya akan berlainan hasilnya jk yg kita dapatkan IC kw..
Jangan lupa op amp ada rumus nya buat nyari R optimal supaya bisa maksimal penguatannya
Which IC should I use for the electric subwoofer for the best bass quality?
Sangat membantu . Terima ksih
Pilih LM4562... Suaranya semriwing.. tapi op ampnya anget..
Cuman kok noise levelnya tinggi ya d 19:35 ? Apa emang seperti itu ya?
very good work , some usefull data . But i trust those OpAmps have different voltages so maybe that influences the data .
I think, this test is to inform which op amp suits our needs under the same conditions because they have the same design (8 pins). different situation if we want to maximize a potential of the op amp. If you have chosen an OP amp, then you can tweak it later
@@arinov77 i got the feeling its about performance , but maybe im wrong
@@dedskin1 no, it can be true, this is just about different point of view, for my need, i will prioritize find Op Amp that have less distortion and warm clean sound, weakness about low response for some frequency then i can tweak with my equalizer later
@@arinov77 Look its not exactly like that , you wont get a best amp with best sound just by going for most expensive op amp .
People pay 100$ per op amp , for their CD players , crazy stuff , they also dont know what im going to tell you .
Best opamp in a bad circuit will be worse then bad opamp in a good circuit .
If an opamp has low noise it wont matter if you PSU is noisy , if your PCB is bad there is nothing op amp can do about it .
Things get complex in a hurry once you want to get a Circuit as good as worst op amps .
Becasue even the worst ones are very good , better then you PSU or board .
How you use it will make the difference , make a good board and circuit that works fine with bad op amp , then get a better op amp .
That is my advice, of course you can get good ones , but dont expect youll get best results just because you have purchased best parts .
@@dedskin1 The Author trying to make simple best custom DIY circuit and make PCB on Proffesiona,l PCB maker, i think this is enough for general testing purpose.
For ordinary users in general, they will not focus on optimizing the design of the audio equipment circuit because it is too complex, what can be done is to upgrade the components in it, such as capacitors with better quality, better IC performance, etc.
Even major electronics manufacturers (example: Marantz, Sansui, Yamaha, Kenwood and others) make audio equipment that can produce different output sound characteristics even though they use the same power IC chip.
There is indeed an element of trial and error in this, if you are lucky the OP Amp chip you buy matches the audio circuit you have and can work optimally. For expert users, you can check the IC OP amp datasheet to be purchased and match it with the audio circuit you have so that it can work optimally.
Cuba Test IC AD828,TDA1308,UPC1032H/HA Dong Bang 🙏🙏
Hadir bang..... Cocok kontennya. Jangan lama² upload videonya bang...
Bagaimana dgn capasitor wima, polypropelene, mkm, mks, mkp, mica, tantalum? Mana yg recommended buat audio? Terima kasih
I don't understand your frequency response figures. I have tested the 5532 and it's completely flat from DC to over 100khz with the gain set to 5. Why your measured ICs are up and down like that makes no sense at all. Most op amps have similar frequency responses, flat from DC then sloping off at VERY high frequency. They do not go up and down within the audio spectrum.
Then, it's time for you to change the way of testing the OP Amp. In fact, the sound produced is different from every existing OP amp tested
Mantab mas bro untuk referensi
Mantap sekali komparasinya mas lebih logis krn pakai data, tidak seperti yg lain hanya berdasarkan deskripsi
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Coba ic PT2351 bang, infonya buat ic subwoofer.
Yg paling bagus untuk input balance output balance bersih nois yg mana boss
Jadi kesimpulannya yg mana paling bguss d antara yg lain bass nya yg tinggi enak d dengar,kalo buat subwooferr yg pling glerrrr
LM4562 bass nya megah/mewah.. tapi sayang kalau dijadikan untuk subwoofer doang.. harganya lumayan haha
ne5532, genuine, is very good, ad produces dynamic sound
AD828 yg baru single sm Dual bro coba
sm Muses 8920 Japan vs HDAM8888SQ / 8899 kykna cakep
LM4562👍LM4562🚀LM4562 c,est de la bombe🔉🎵🎶🎼
bagi saya sama saja, tergantung komponen
Bang barlex mau nanya dok...untuk kit crossover aktif subwoofer merk bell agar suara bas dominan lembut glerrr/petikan bas bukan dug(drum) dan dung(petikan bass mid) diganti ic model apa....saya sukanya karakter bass glerr lembut.
ne5532 glerr lembut
Boss tlg riview ic BA4560 dan MC33078 donk...
Salam Sejahtera..
Mantap Bro..
Belum ada yg sedetil ini di dunia..😀👍👍👍
di dunia bah 😂
Benar itu, saya cari dimana mana belum ada yang sedetail ini
10:25 kalau diperhatikan, grafik LM833 banyak kemiripan dg AD823 ya bang @barlex
Mirip mc33078
Msh ada mas yg blm tercover ic BA4560 yg di pakai mixer peavey trus TL072 ada pada amply keyboard LANAY
berarti untuk low sub pemenangnya jrs 4556d ya mas
Mas rekomendasi Ic op amp buat tweter ?
Mas brarti 4558 sama ic 4580 sama ya?? Mksudnya kegunaan di 1 sirkuit elektronik sama kegynaanya dan fungsinya.( persamaan ic). Mkasih
Rewiew ne5532 texas instrumens yg ori donk soalnya banyak bentuk tp satu merk
Bagaimana dgn IC AD 8009, ADA 4857-1, LT6274 mana yang recommended buat audio?
Bang ne texas seri P dan AP dan sinegtic lbih unggul mna???
Opa2277u vs ne5532 bagusan mas?
Bagus mana 4580 dan 5532 untuk out balance
Itu menentukan kapasitor 100nf-470nf buat proteksi speaker gimana ya om? Kalau semakin besar ukurannya ngaruhnya ke apa ya? Mohon dijawab ya om. Terimakasih banyakk 😬🙏
Video pbuatan preamp nya mas
jadi kesimpulan terbaiknya gimana bos
low = ?
mid = ?
high = ?
4580
Yg midelnya lntang dn open apa pk bwat mixer /tone cintrol
Maaf gan mau nanya itu ne5532 dari signetic itu yang ori kah plis 🙏 jawab
Jrc4558 vs TL082 bagus mana untuk aplikasi subfoower?
Jrc
Winner of all ic test
Cari lm4562 yang SMD yang bagus ada linknya penjualnya gan?
Dan juga ada merek ne5532 yang Philips apakah merek ini termasuk ori
Mantap, eq mobil abal"ku sudah agak enakan 😂
Gan mc33078 juarnag banget tapi enak juga perlu di bahas ini
Bikin tes beginian lagi bang 😊
ternyata saya ga suka suaranya AD823, padahal IC ini termasuk yang mahal yaaa
Klw IC yg 14pin yg stereo nya paling bagus lebar IC apa mas
4580 is used for HeadPhones?
Whats "X" the signal is amplifier ?
Sekalian bikin phantom power mic nya.. saya tunggu. Mauliate
5550 J R C 5013 what the function please tell me??
Bikin review INA101AM vs opa541bm om
Chanel generasi bangsa 💎
Keren gan, saya hanya bisa mendengar perbedaan mid saja😁
I have replaced 4580 with NE5532 inside my old Logitech z5500 and i really noticed a difference, it sounds much better , but i have to find a way to lower voltage because 4580 is feed with+-18v and they recommend +-15v for NE5532 ....in the past i have replaced the 2 regulators from subwoofer main board to lower voltage to +-15v for all the op amps but it seems the ic's screen doesn't like18v so the screen was blurred,i had to reverse everything.....i am thinking to use two 15v zener diodes for each op- NE5532 to replace the resistors before pins 4and 8 of the operational, the role of that resistor is to lower voltage just a little but under the 18v .....aprox 17,8v 🤔
Did u mod the z5500 control pod or subwoofer. There are op-amps in both. And whats the difference in sound after using whichever ic.
@@tibby1239 Both, ne5532 for control pod and opa1650 or other opa ( can't remember which one )for subwoofer , in my opinion sounds better but i think ne5532 its at it's edge because the voltage there its +-18 and ne5532 max voltage its +-18v but recommend working voltages it's less , i think I will replace them all with OPA
@@smamas114 i read the mod forum. A lot of people used opa1602 and opa1612. But what about the caps. Did u change the capacitors as well or just op-amps. Can the subwoofer produce deeper bass with this. How can you bypass the subsonic filter in the z5500 system?
@@tibby1239 I did changed only the op-amp and i ve tried to change some capacitors for the low bass filter but it didn't worked probably because i ve tried that only in the console , if you check the schematic there is a capacitor which is responsible for that , probably you need to change also something inside the subwoofer in order to work
Bedanya ne 5532 signetic dengan ne 5532 biasa apa kak. Trus saya punya power ic nya pake ic 4580 kalu langsung gnti ic ne 5532. Lngsung gnti icnya atau ada penambahan komponen lain kak
kalo buat outbal crosofer canel low sub pling bagus pke apa mas
Bang mau tanya ic lm4562na yg asli yg seperti apa ciri pisiknya ,,dan harga brapa,,karna beda2 harga dan bentuk ,gak tau yg mna yg asli,,
Software buat tes pakai apa ya mas?
Mas jrc 4558 bisa gak diganti dengan ic 5218 a bawaan tape soni
singkat padat detil dan jelas
Bang barlex untuk LF353N dapat harga berapa?
kalau mau upgrde dlms dbx kw bgus pakek mana kk
mantap mas e❤
Mas mintak tolong beritau pengganti ICI tl0742f yg bagus apa mas sama tl0741
Itu TL 074 yg bener, ganti pake sama" Tl074 tapi yg logonya Texas Instruments, cirinya yg ori doakan ic lebih panjang
Brtii kita nilai tes denngar ya bos 😁 supayya ikut2an gtu
Perfect Job, Sir !It would be real nice if you could choose 3 of them and play a song, switching between them every ??5-6 seconds
I believe he cut the video short so the video will not be too long, he listen to a full song with every opamp. CMIIW
Mas penganti IC LM 741 yang bagus apa ya mas 🙏.. makasih sebelumnya nya