I’m not understanding the narrative that a sitting VP has the ability to make and execute policy. What major accomplishments did Pence have or any other VP.
They were set up to run against Biden, and so incompetent they couldn’t figure out another game plan but to project Biden on to Harris, and their people are not sophisticated enough to understand that pretty much other than casting tie breaker votes in Congress (which follow President wishes), VPS have no real power .
@@KP99 Even if that were true, your boy couldn't do the job himself and put her under pressure and make her crack? Trump was the one who was her opponent, after all. Sounds like another good reason not to vote for him.
@@EdwardDollar-r2ubecause he can't argue against 3 people on tv? Lol I'm gonna vote based on how well he ran the country vs how terrible the country is now
“I don’t know what that is. I don’t care.” The nurse, Katie, from VA is ridiculous to say she doesn’t care about Project 2025. She’s been a Trump voter the last two election cycles. Harris was never going to get her vote. Just ridiculous.
I think it is un-American not to vote. People who don’t vote are throwing away a privilege which other countries don’t have when it comes to selecting their leaders. Vote on the leader whose policies line up with closest to your convictions. Throwing away your vote is unacceptable period.
Thank you! So many people on here lying and saying that he's fair and calls Trump out. This is a man who went out to the podium and told the nation with a straight face that Trump had the biggest inauguration in U.S. history.
@kevinjones5457 Biden didn't drop out ,Nancy pushed him out . And Because she did that he endorsed Kamala . Knowing full well that Nancy ,Obama, and the rest didn't want her . We have AOC on video explaining that, we have Nancy on video saying she's good for nothing ,we have Biden on video supporting Trump !! They are telling you straight to EVERYONES FACE NOT TO VOTE FOR HER EVEN KAMALA !! She was forced into something overnight that she was not actually wanting . This is why she has zero policies!!
Everything Kamala Harris says is a lie, because her entire platform is the exact opposite of what she supports and what she has always supported. Why is she never fact, checked by the moderators by the fact that she has changed her position on literally everything. Nobody should believe it, she’s a radical leftist, pretending to be a moderate. We all know the second she would get into power she would flip right back to the absolute radical communist left is that she is
Mark was let go of mainstream news outlets, that’s why he hates them so much and doesn’t let go of his obsession to speak bad about them. I agree media has always been biased, Fox certainly and shamelessly is, just as Mark is being biased here…
Trump was a more senile version of the already deranged Trump. Harris presented herself as steady, presidential, and trustworthy. The American people should choose Harris, not just because of her better style, but because of her competence and tact.
I bet money you don’t know what “senile” or “deranged” means. She presented herself as smug, and unlikable. Like, she’ll ruin or complicate your life, if you cross her. She a vacuous empty-suit. Your hatred of Trump makes you oblivious to that
Mark why didnt you let the New Yorker guy make his comments when you gave so much time to the women before and after him? It was interesting to hear his perspective from Dem country and the first time support to Trump..
I am tired of these ‘undecided voters’;they suck the oxygen out of the room, with politicians and pundits paying an inordinate amount of attention to them. And these people still don’t know what they’re going to do. Maybe we all should become undecided voters and not respond to polls. Also, why do people who know they’re not going to vote for either candidate, still opine about the election? Not necessary.
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As was said on this program, the debate is all about projecting strength. By that standard Harris completely destroyed Trump. Trump looked weak, unhinged and angry. And as far as Harris not being specific, please. We all know what this woman stands for and who she represents. Harris is a classic Democrat beholden to big corporations, Wall Street and lobbyists. Enough with wanting specific policies. She's no crazy liberal. She's classic Neo-liberal and will govern that way. Bill Clinton 2.0
"Projecting strength": Not the least of which was demonstrated by her insisting that he shake her hand when he was obviously cowering away and didn't want to face her.
She’s a radical leftist, and her supportive corporations only goes to the extent that they’ll back her up and implementing her radical, borderline communist agenda. This is especially true for social issues.
Biden left Trump tariffs in place (a major mistake by Biden), and that has negatively affected inflation, much more so than the Trump-Biden stimulus money. Trump says he wants even MORE tariffs if elected. Printing money increases inflation, not giving out stimulus. Printing money is something the FED does, and Trump doesn’t control the Fed. No president does. What a president CAN control? Issuing tariffs.
Biden left Trump tariffs in place (a major mistake by Biden), and that has negatively affected inflation, much more so than the Trump-Biden stimulus money. Trump says he wants even MORE tariffs if elected. Printing money was also a much bigger contributor to inflation than stimulus. Printing money is something the FED does, and Biden doesn't control the Fed. No president does. What a president CAN control? Issuing tariffs.
@@granthuling3235 How "presidential" is it to refuse to protect the borders of your own country? While giving billions to another country to protect theirs. Democrats love the word "weird". But nothing about their policy is normal. 1990's Bill Clinton was to the right of Donald Trump. He was for a secure border. He had ICE forcibly take a child, Elian Gonzalez, from his relatives in the US and deport him back to Cuba to rejoin his father.
Yes the moderators should have pressed her on her policy changes and followed up on questions but to be honest what lies did she tell. Everyone knew Trump would lie because that’s what he does.
@@rondaf-b2v You must be kidding. No one is clueless enough, at this late date, to be so lazy to have resisted watching the whole clip of Trump's comments. Are you admitting to being a cloistered goofball? Do you need a link to the full clip?
Biggest problem in this debate for Trump is that he did nothing to bring back soft/anti-Trump R's back to him,. He needs this group in the target states. It is his biggest vulnerability, and he did nothing to reassure these voters.
They’re neocons who love war. Trumps ability to relate with voters who are tired of endless wars week naturally turn off the last remnant of neocon republicans. Choose a voter group you can only have one
@@chrismcnulty7112 yep! I was one of those soft republicans/moderates that previously voted for him. Since the Maga take over I am now an independent. I am in the beautiful swing state of NC. My husband is not interested in Trump this go around. Trump did not get this vote last night. He did not look or sound presidential. Though I do not think Trump could get my vote at this point, the good news is there is still some time for him to work on fellow Nikki Haley voters.
@@vmarshfireI use to think like you until I saw the lawfare by the Biden's admin n DOJ. I'll base my vote off policies rather then personality or emotions. Independent voter here
@@co6308 Trump deserved every bit of that investigation and the guilty decision, remember the jury was unanimous. He thinks he is abouve the law. He told us he could kil and get away with it. Trump deserves to pay for it.
Roger is so spot on. The Lawfare convinced me back in March to support Trump. This is really an unexploited issue by Trump campaign. I never thought the judicial branch of government could become so corrupted.
In the follow-up, it looked like undecided voters are still undecided, but are open to more information from Harris. Would she benefit from doing interviews and/or town halls?
I’m a Dem, and once again I feel the experts can’t read the room. She felt so unlikeable with her demeanor. I can’t believe people wouldn’t have seen that. She is so patronizing….
As a moderate, I find her more likable than Obama and way more likable than Hillary. People forget how cheap Obama could be, truly skating on media assistance, eg calling Romney a “vulture capitalist.” Harris strikes me as really sophisticated and likable by comparison, not smug.
I agree with your comment except ABC is the loser. They clearly demonstrated a bias. I haven't watched legacy media in over a decade. This only solidifies my decision. The more MSM hates TRUMP, the more I LOVE him.
The purpose was for her to speak less and him speak more, they knew if allowed he would go on and on. And he did, this was in no way even, the moderator inserted himself too many times and they never pressed her at all, never pressured her to answer the question. I’m not fan of either, but it would have been a completely diff debate had there been an equal and fair ground to start on. They rarely muted the mics and did so only to protect her from herself, they were completely for Harris. And it showed.
Same old Trump. Full of Conspiracy theories from Right wing internet Q. Like people eating cats in Ohio. We saw who had facts and who had NO Plan like a Trump Healthcare Plan.
Mark: thanks for pointing out the failure of the ABC moderators to ask Harris follow-up questions. It reflects badly on them and exposes how much they fear Harris’ vulnerabilities.
He got three. They never corrected the Biden Charlottesville "good people on both sides" lie she repeated. Snopes debunked that. Also his "bloodbath" line if he lost was in reference to an economic bloodbath; not literal violence. There is no such thing as a "Trump Abortion Ban". He doesn't support Project 2025. Even the non partisan nurse debunked her lie about the woman in her car bleeding out. No US hospital would deny someone care.
@@DanielTobiasyou actually believed that stat? She repeated the “fine people” hoax, she denied helping bail out people arrested in the riots, she said Trump was going to implement Project 2025 even though she absolutely knows he has nothing to do with it. I could go on, but that’s already enough to debunk that hilarious ‘data point.’
I agree with Mark that Trump missed opportunities and didn't make his case. But Trump was setup to be bullied. It was obvious and was distasteful. 43:28
@@elle6327 The role of the moderators is to be objective and provide a format for clear debate for both candidates. Even CNN provided a reasonable debate format in June. These ABC moderators acted as Harris surrogates. Trump's anger is warranted.
@@cj3704 The role of a moderator is also to fact check when necessary. When someone is making egregious claims like immigrants are eating cats and dogs, denying our last election after trying to overthrow it, etc. I think one should be called out on that. They didn’t fact check when he said he had ‘concepts of a plan’ (although he was president for 4 years and it’s been 8 years). And that made sense, that would be up to VP Harris to counter.
@elle6327 Harris made several false statements and moderators said nothing. Please stop going on about Trump. We've all heard your gripes. Time for you to fact check yourself otherwise tune you out.
The message is these positions that are different than ours are held by people that don’t have the same right to have them as we do because they are substandard people and that is physically and visually communicated in the media.
So 3 v 1 is getting your “clock cleaned”. For her to be so good, she sure got alot of help. I know you hate him and want to see him lose, but this debate changed nothing.
Here’s the reality: this debate is a hot-take moment which will have next-to-no impact on the outcome of the election. Historically that is the case. People forget how poorly Obama did against Romney and the Dems were wringing their hands that it would cost him the election. It didn’t, because there was no single moment that eclipsed the debate. People remember a single instance of something, not who “won” the debate. I can’t recall a single instance of Kamala saying anything that will stick out forever in the public consciousness.
@@nupatriarch1681 You know you lost when you start blaming the refs. Also, it didn’t change anything for you but for the millions who just tuned in for the first time…Trump talked about migrants eating pets. I had low expectations for Trump and he amazed me. What a fool.
@@nupatriarch1681this 3 against 1 thing is ludicrous. Trump is an idiot and had much more air time…he was manipulated and tjisnis the man you want talking to Putin? Lol. She won, and Trump looked weak and stupid.
I’m disappointed at all the missed opportunities Trump had to counter Harris. Either way, Harris does not belong on that stage. Most people look at her and think how did she get through all the safeguards? It’s an insult to our collective intelligence. These are scary times for our country. I just want the nightmare to end.
I disagree with Sean. That comment Trump made about “I am speaking now… sound familiar?” really turned me off of Trump last night. After that it was just a lot of complaints and weird animal eating ideas that he felt he needed to share… no solutions from him. I thought Harris did a great job keeping Trump on the defense and being reactive. I do realize with who she was debating it would be hard to push policy… so What I would like moving forward from her is more talking to the voters. A town hall would be nice. :) but overall she looked presidential. I am more likely to vote for her now.
Disagree. I thought It was really strong moment for him actually. What he says right after was strong for him too, but throughout the night he ruined his good moments by rambling on. I thought that made him look unfocused and undisciplined, and it took away from the few really good moments he had.
@@DanteInfernski22 interesting that you thought it was a strong moment for him. It was the exact moment I said, “I definitely cannot vote for him again.” Then it just spiraled for me. I wonder how many other women felt that way. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it!
Sean: as long as Trump didn’t overtly insult Harris to her face, he could still have given one of the worst debate performances of all time, in one of the most anticipated and consequential debates of all time, and still not hurt himself. And Tim is the “zombie hack”?
I was begrudgingly leaning T rump going into last night and he just has this way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. He's so lazy, so easily baited into going off topic and into grievance politics. An utter buffoon. DeSantis would have called out the moderators for their bias, exposed Kamala for who she is and cake walked into the White House. I'm an Independent in a swing state and hope both of these candidates lose.
I think they both lost. Trump looked like he was hunched over the podium, pissed, & yelling. Kamala looked like a liar who was putting on a facade & and obfuscating. Neither won imo but if I had to choose I’d choose Kamala although she lied a ton & was never fact checked on any of her lies which the moderators should’ve have done to begin with.
@@pulpmysticshe repeated the fine people hoax. She said police died on January 6th. She said Trump was involved with Project 2025. She lied repeatedly and on topics that have long been debunked. There are numerous examples. Just because she wasn’t fact checked doesn’t mean she wasn’t lying.
@@JS-ln4ns She told the truth about every one of these subjects. We all watched and listened to Charlottesville and January 6. Over 150 former Trump employees/associates work for Project 2025. JD Vance wrote the Forward. It’s Trump’s blueprint for a second term. He is a habitual liar.
The problem with all these games is we are gonna end up with a poor candidate getting gamed into office because the other candidate is worse. What a nightmare for a country. Disgraceful.
It was so disrespectful of Mark calling Gabriel and Sean insane for saying average everyday voters saw debate differently than those in DC bubble. It reminded me of all the cable news channels on election eve 2016 saying" How did we miss this" Mark get out your bubble.
Every focus group Reuters and NYT say more undecided after debate moved to Trump. Mark laughed at Gabriel who said the DC bubble crowd and media saw the debate differently then average undecided voters.
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I’m not understanding the narrative that a sitting VP has the ability to make and execute policy. What major accomplishments did Pence have or any other VP.
The President is a vegetable.
Thank you, sir. Exactly.
They were set up to run against Biden, and so incompetent they couldn’t figure out another game plan but to project Biden on to Harris, and their people are not sophisticated enough to understand that pretty much other than casting tie breaker votes in Congress (which follow President wishes), VPS have no real power .
She can at least explain why the administration hasn’t done anything to fix the problems rather than blaming it on others
I know. Vice presidents given nothing to do, is a running joke in Hollywood movies. Remember ‘Dave’?
Wait a second... hasn't Mark be telling us that Kamala is terrible under pressure? Oops.
Turns out it’s trump.
@@elle6327BS 3 against 1 He did fine
She was never under pressure last night, with the mods debating on her behalf
@@KP99 Even if that were true, your boy couldn't do the job himself and put her under pressure and make her crack? Trump was the one who was her opponent, after all. Sounds like another good reason not to vote for him.
@@EdwardDollar-r2ubecause he can't argue against 3 people on tv? Lol I'm gonna vote based on how well he ran the country vs how terrible the country is now
“I don’t know what that is. I don’t care.”
The nurse, Katie, from VA is ridiculous to say she doesn’t care about Project 2025.
She’s been a Trump voter the last two election cycles. Harris was never going to get her vote.
Just ridiculous.
"I have a concept of a plan." I bet Mark never would've guessed which candidate was the one who'd say that.
what I saw was Kamala throwing the stick and Trump just running off topic chasing it
I saw a woman who lied her a.s.s. off and trump did not . Along with the ABC lying and people falling for it
That strategy worked for Harris, but it was bad for the American people.
@@christopherlauderdalehow was it bad for the American people? It showed how dumb he is, that’s good to know.
No wonder Chris Christy wanted to debate Trump in the primaries. Christy would have had a field day.
I think it is un-American not to vote. People who don’t vote are throwing away a privilege which other countries don’t have when it comes to selecting their leaders. Vote on the leader whose policies line up with closest to your convictions. Throwing away your vote is unacceptable period.
Not true. Force the vote to get what you want. If that means not voting or voting third party sends a message.That's the only power you have.
Not voting is still sending a message.
@@billyrubano8268 more people in this chat agree with me than you. 15 to 1. It is UnAmerican.
Love watching Mark and Sean whine like babies.
Neither can admit reality.
Trump got crushed. Bigly.
Sean has a beautiful home and has to pay the bills by spewing BS and covering for Trump.
Thank you! So many people on here lying and saying that he's fair and calls Trump out. This is a man who went out to the podium and told the nation with a straight face that Trump had the biggest inauguration in U.S. history.
CORRECTION Mark: not the "worst debate performance of all time." Biden dropped out after his debate performance.
Biden didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democrat party left him.
@kevinjones5457 Biden didn't drop out ,Nancy pushed him out . And Because she did that he endorsed Kamala . Knowing full well that Nancy ,Obama, and the rest didn't want her . We have AOC on video explaining that, we have Nancy on video saying she's good for nothing ,we have Biden on video supporting Trump !! They are telling you straight to EVERYONES FACE NOT TO VOTE FOR HER EVEN KAMALA !! She was forced into something overnight that she was not actually wanting . This is why she has zero policies!!
The only thing that Kamala has behind her is the 1% and the super wealthy !! Because regardless , the middle class are the only ones effected
According to Drudge, this is over, Kamala by 10 percent
Only if you call losing a win
Her expertise in hiding her true self is gravely concerning. I do not trust her. He says things from his heart. He does not hide who he is.
Maybe her debate performance will embolden her to do A LOT more interviews.
Yeah, He can’t hide that he’s a moron.
NASDAQ, Dow and S&P 500 all up today after Harris clearly won the debate.
The fact checking was uneven is because the lying was uneven. If you don't want to be fact checked, try not saying something completely bonkers.
Everything Kamala Harris says is a lie, because her entire platform is the exact opposite of what she supports and what she has always supported. Why is she never fact, checked by the moderators by the fact that she has changed her position on literally everything. Nobody should believe it, she’s a radical leftist, pretending to be a moderate. We all know the second she would get into power she would flip right back to the absolute radical communist left is that she is
The story is about ABC, not Trump or Kamala.
So you're blaming the people doing the right thing by calling out lies rather than the one doing the wrong thing by lying in the first place? Got it.
Mark was let go of mainstream news outlets, that’s why he hates them so much and doesn’t let go of his obsession to speak bad about them. I agree media has always been biased, Fox certainly and shamelessly is, just as Mark is being biased here…
Trump was a more senile version of the already deranged Trump. Harris presented herself as steady, presidential, and trustworthy.
The American people should choose Harris, not just because of her better style, but because of her competence and tact.
I bet money you don’t know what “senile” or “deranged” means.
She presented herself as smug, and unlikable. Like, she’ll ruin or complicate your life, if you cross her. She a vacuous empty-suit.
Your hatred of Trump makes you oblivious to that
Mark why didnt you let the New Yorker guy make his comments when you gave so much time to the women before and after him? It was interesting to hear his perspective from Dem country and the first time support to Trump..
Wasn't exactly succinct in his thoughts. It can be difficult to do under pressure
Well if he's given a minute he might be.
@@akhilesh5027 He had too many minutes. Motor mouth. OK when there is no time limit, but not in a controlled situation.
He's prioritizing time to swing state voters.
No vote for anyone from either party who supports sending another penny to Ukraine. KH's answer on Ukraine was disqualifying IMO.
Wow! The worst debate performance of all time!!!!
Mark is still bitter with ABC for canning him for being acreep with women.
Is that true? If so, that would explain his baffling pandering to Trump - birds of a feather.
@@EdwardDollar-r2uvery true.
Maybe the women were the creeps
I am tired of these ‘undecided voters’;they suck the oxygen out of the room, with politicians and pundits paying an inordinate amount of attention to them. And these people still don’t know what they’re going to do. Maybe we all should become undecided voters and not respond to polls. Also, why do people who know they’re not going to vote for either candidate, still opine about the election? Not necessary.
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a conservative anylist said it Best You cant complain to the refs if you cant even make a jump shot
WE are all Americans and we should act like it at every opportunity. God bless America and our freedom.
As was said on this program, the debate is all about projecting strength. By that standard Harris completely destroyed Trump. Trump looked weak, unhinged and angry. And as far as Harris not being specific, please. We all know what this woman stands for and who she represents. Harris is a classic Democrat beholden to big corporations, Wall Street and lobbyists. Enough with wanting specific policies. She's no crazy liberal. She's classic Neo-liberal and will govern that way. Bill Clinton 2.0
@@MrJDCohen agreed. As an independent voter- I was looking for strength and wit. That is what I saw from her last night.
"Projecting strength": Not the least of which was demonstrated by her insisting that he shake her hand when he was obviously cowering away and didn't want to face her.
@@EdwardDollar-r2ushe spoke it platitudes and told more lies than Biden. Fact Check That
She’s a radical leftist, and her supportive corporations only goes to the extent that they’ll back her up and implementing her radical, borderline communist agenda. This is especially true for social issues.
I liked how she said “Tim’s got a gun ,I’ve got a gun. Nobody’s taking your guns”. Like doc Martin, stop talking.
americans are supposed to care that Harris won a debate when they cant afford groceries LMAO
Biden left Trump tariffs in place (a major mistake by Biden), and that has negatively affected inflation, much more so than the Trump-Biden stimulus money. Trump says he wants even MORE tariffs if elected.
Printing money increases inflation, not giving out stimulus. Printing money is something the FED does, and Trump doesn’t control the Fed. No president does. What a president CAN control? Issuing tariffs.
Biden left Trump tariffs in place (a major mistake by Biden), and that has negatively affected inflation, much more so than the Trump-Biden stimulus money. Trump says he wants even MORE tariffs if elected.
Printing money was also a much bigger contributor to inflation than stimulus. Printing money is something the FED does, and Biden doesn't control the Fed. No president does. What a president CAN control?
Issuing tariffs.
Americans shouldn’t be subjected to “elections” when there’s (global) inflation! 😂
I’ll keep it simple. Kamala did to Trump what Trump did to “Biden!” Better get used to hearing “Madam President “
If your life was better and you were safer under Trump - then vote Trump ..
With the unhinged man that we saw yesterday, getting an unchecked second term… no thank you.
The eaten pets is confirmed, not a 'conspiracy theory'.
Very appropriate, very presidential to focus on 😂
It don't matter.. Truth don't matter to this people
@@granthuling3235 How "presidential" is it to refuse to protect the borders of your own country? While giving billions to another country to protect theirs. Democrats love the word "weird". But nothing about their policy is normal. 1990's Bill Clinton was to the right of Donald Trump. He was for a secure border. He had ICE forcibly take a child, Elian Gonzalez, from his relatives in the US and deport him back to Cuba to rejoin his father.
Confirmed by who? You guys are so gullible lol
@@tripp8833 Maybe stop watching CNN MSNBC and you will know
Katie!! Glad you came back. Agree with your takes.
Yes the moderators should have pressed her on her policy changes and followed up on questions but to be honest what lies did she tell. Everyone knew Trump would lie because that’s what he does.
The ''fine people'' hoax is a stupid lie. How did you miss that clanger? What else don't you know?
@@1247.cccccc We have all seen the video footage of him saying exactly that about Charlottesville. I will believe my own ears.
@@1247.ccccccObviously you don’t know much if that’s big lie you’re highlighting. We could make a laundry list of the Trump lies.
@@Nathan-RSV1844 What have you to say for yourself? What are Trump's worst lies in your mind? Start with one.
@@rondaf-b2v You must be kidding. No one is clueless enough, at this late date, to be so lazy to have resisted watching the whole clip of Trump's comments. Are you admitting to being a cloistered goofball? Do you need a link to the full clip?
For Lauren and any woman of reproductive age- How does the idea of IVF, contraceptives and abortions being banned not SCARE the shit out of you??????
Trump is for IVF doesn't want to ban abortion. So you're lying
Biggest problem in this debate for Trump is that he did nothing to bring back soft/anti-Trump R's back to him,. He needs this group in the target states. It is his biggest vulnerability, and he did nothing to reassure these voters.
They’re neocons who love war. Trumps ability to relate with voters who are tired of endless wars week naturally turn off the last remnant of neocon republicans. Choose a voter group you can only have one
@@chrismcnulty7112 yep! I was one of those soft republicans/moderates that previously voted for him. Since the Maga take over I am now an independent. I am in the beautiful swing state of NC. My husband is not interested in Trump this go around. Trump did not get this vote last night. He did not look or sound presidential. Though I do not think Trump could get my vote at this point, the good news is there is still some time for him to work on fellow Nikki Haley voters.
@@vmarshfireI use to think like you until I saw the lawfare by the Biden's admin n DOJ. I'll base my vote off policies rather then personality or emotions. Independent voter here
@@co6308 Trump deserved every bit of that investigation and the guilty decision, remember the jury was unanimous. He thinks he is abouve the law. He told us he could kil and get away with it. Trump deserves to pay for it.
@@vmarshfirewell we will see how the Harris administration works out for us with your strategy. My guess is not so good
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And, you excellent reporting on politics.
Lmao @ Sean when Kevin says he was better off under Trump, unprompted, after saying he won't vote for him 😂
Roger is so spot on. The Lawfare convinced me back in March to support Trump. This is really an unexploited issue by Trump campaign. I never thought the judicial branch of government could become so corrupted.
100%❤
In the follow-up, it looked like undecided voters are still undecided, but are open to more information from Harris. Would she benefit from doing interviews and/or town halls?
After the comparison last night, I'm not sure what more these people need to know.
I’m a Dem, and once again I feel the experts can’t read the room. She felt so unlikeable with her demeanor. I can’t believe people wouldn’t have seen that. She is so patronizing….
Yea sure you are lol
😂 And Trump is never that way!!😂
As a moderate, I find her more likable than Obama and way more likable than Hillary. People forget how cheap Obama could be, truly skating on media assistance, eg calling Romney a “vulture capitalist.” Harris strikes me as really sophisticated and likable by comparison, not smug.
So you don’t like her, we get it.
@@truefacts404 I am
The winner is…..ABC
Trump came up short
Kamala did what she had to do
I agree with your comment except ABC is the loser. They clearly demonstrated a bias. I haven't watched legacy media in over a decade. This only solidifies my decision. The more MSM hates TRUMP, the more I LOVE him.
Nooe sge us big lie
The moderators were unfair. They let Trump speak much more than Harris. That lost him the debate.
The purpose was for her to speak less and him speak more, they knew if allowed he would go on and on. And he did, this was in no way even, the moderator inserted himself too many times and they never pressed her at all, never pressured her to answer the question. I’m not fan of either, but it would have been a completely diff debate had there been an equal and fair ground to start on. They rarely muted the mics and did so only to protect her from herself, they were completely for Harris. And it showed.
They muted mics only to protect her from herself?
If Harris had delivered dopey bald-faced lies, moderators would’ve fact checked her too. She didn’t.
Now you know why I never watch ABC News.
Some people don’t like fact checking, when they have difficulty being truthful.
Same old Trump. Full of Conspiracy theories from Right wing internet Q. Like people eating cats in Ohio. We saw who had facts and who had NO Plan like a Trump Healthcare Plan.
Your gop is showing
Also NBC, CBS and CNN. I already don't watch Fox
@@williamparker1644Who do you watch then, Newsmax?
Trump is uniquely untalented on pressing issues. He had the same issue with Hillary and Biden.
Mark: thanks for pointing out the failure of the ABC moderators to ask Harris follow-up questions. It reflects badly on them and exposes how much they fear Harris’ vulnerabilities.
And yet trump refused to answer how he would remove 11 million people from the country.
I truly don’t understand the mind of the undecided voter. Or the “I can’t vote for either one”… y’all aren’t special. Just dense
Ive learned its privilege, their lives don’t seemed to be affected by the economy or border crisis. What a luxurious life they must live.
"fact checking was uneven"... That's because the lying was uneven, Mark.
Fact checking was uneven because the media is corrupt
Projection. She lied incessantly. Her not getting called out, doesn’t mean she didn’t 😂
He got three. They never corrected the Biden Charlottesville "good people on both sides" lie she repeated. Snopes debunked that. Also his "bloodbath" line if he lost was in reference to an economic bloodbath; not literal violence. There is no such thing as a "Trump Abortion Ban". He doesn't support Project 2025. Even the non partisan nurse debunked her lie about the woman in her car bleeding out. No US hospital would deny someone care.
Post-debate fact checks show Trump lied 33 times for every 1 told by his opponent
@@DanielTobiasyou actually believed that stat? She repeated the “fine people” hoax, she denied helping bail out people arrested in the riots, she said Trump was going to implement Project 2025 even though she absolutely knows he has nothing to do with it. I could go on, but that’s already enough to debunk that hilarious ‘data point.’
I agree with Mark that Trump missed opportunities and didn't make his case. But Trump was setup to be bullied. It was obvious and was distasteful. 43:28
So Trump wants to be the President of the United States but is ‘bullied’ and can’t handle TV moderators😂?
And how will you remove 11 million people from the country? Couldn’t answer yet he talks about it all the time.
@@elle6327 The role of the moderators is to be objective and provide a format for clear debate for both candidates. Even CNN provided a reasonable debate format in June. These ABC moderators acted as Harris surrogates. Trump's anger is warranted.
@@cj3704 The role of a moderator is also to fact check when necessary. When someone is making egregious claims like immigrants are eating cats and dogs, denying our last election after trying to overthrow it, etc. I think one should be called out on that. They didn’t fact check when he said he had ‘concepts of a plan’ (although he was president for 4 years and it’s been 8 years). And that made sense, that would be up to VP Harris to counter.
@elle6327 Harris made several false statements and moderators said nothing. Please stop going on about Trump. We've all heard your gripes. Time for you to fact check yourself otherwise tune you out.
I wonder why Springfield is getting 2.5 million spent on extra law enforcement today
Mark... If you do not want to be fact checked ... than DO NOT lie about babies getting killed and immigrant eating cats and dog! FFS
The organizer for the undecided group having an AOL email address tells me exactly what I need to know about these undecided voters.
Well Katie, stop coming on since you’re not voting for anyone. I want to hear from undecideds
The message is these positions that are different than ours are held by people that don’t have the same right to have them as we do because they are substandard people and that is physically and visually communicated in the media.
She lost the debate dodging every question and punting , lied more then trump
Sean is dillusional and really add nothing to this podcast, no insights at all with any meaning...
Lauren isn't undecided. Please.
Love Sean saying Trump coulda, woulda, shouda. He got his clocked cleaned and everyone knows it. He didn’t prepare and that’s what he is…lazy.
So 3 v 1 is getting your “clock cleaned”. For her to be so good, she sure got alot of help. I know you hate him and want to see him lose, but this debate changed nothing.
Here’s the reality: this debate is a hot-take moment which will have next-to-no impact on the outcome of the election. Historically that is the case. People forget how poorly Obama did against Romney and the Dems were wringing their hands that it would cost him the election. It didn’t, because there was no single moment that eclipsed the debate. People remember a single instance of something, not who “won” the debate. I can’t recall a single instance of Kamala saying anything that will stick out forever in the public consciousness.
@@nupatriarch1681 You know you lost when you start blaming the refs. Also, it didn’t change anything for you but for the millions who just tuned in for the first time…Trump talked about migrants eating pets. I had low expectations for Trump and he amazed me. What a fool.
@@nupatriarch1681this 3 against 1 thing is ludicrous. Trump is an idiot and had much more air time…he was manipulated and tjisnis the man you want talking to Putin? Lol. She won, and Trump looked weak and stupid.
Trump totally insulted her!
If this man has known Harris why can’t he pronounce her correctly? i swear… smh.
Maybe since Trump though the ABC moderators were biased, he should insist the next debate be on FOX. Kamala would be smart to accept.
I’m disappointed at all the missed opportunities Trump had to counter Harris. Either way, Harris does not belong on that stage. Most people look at her and think how did she get through all the safeguards? It’s an insult to our collective intelligence. These are scary times for our country. I just want the nightmare to end.
Harris does not belong on that stage? She owned the stage! Please go see the doctor your brain is not functioning properly
Love your show, but I'm frustrated that I can't figure out how to participate with comments. How do I "raise my hand?" What am I missing?
Wow, that Doug Burgum logo is nearly perfect
I thought that ABC would at least make a pretence at being fair. They didn't. Shame on AND !
I disagree with Sean. That comment Trump made about “I am speaking now… sound familiar?” really turned me off of Trump last night. After that it was just a lot of complaints and weird animal eating ideas that he felt he needed to share… no solutions from him. I thought Harris did a great job keeping Trump on the defense and being reactive. I do realize with who she was debating it would be hard to push policy… so What I would like moving forward from her is more talking to the voters. A town hall would be nice. :) but overall she looked presidential. I am more likely to vote for her now.
She is incapable of doing a townhall or interview
Disagree. I thought It was really strong moment for him actually. What he says right after was strong for him too, but throughout the night he ruined his good moments by rambling on. I thought that made him look unfocused and undisciplined, and it took away from the few really good moments he had.
Lol
I’ll keep it simple. Kamala did to Trump what Trump did to “Biden!” Better get used to hearing “Madam President “
@@DanteInfernski22 interesting that you thought it was a strong moment for him. It was the exact moment I said, “I definitely cannot vote for him again.” Then it just spiraled for me. I wonder how many other women felt that way. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it!
Sean: as long as Trump didn’t overtly insult Harris to her face, he could still have given one of the worst debate performances of all time, in one of the most anticipated and consequential debates of all time, and still not hurt himself.
And Tim is the “zombie hack”?
Tim is the “zombie hack”.
Compelling argument… 🤦
Trump had opportunities to dunk on Kamala’s face but didn’t
Any attempt to do that would’ve been dulled by the mods. Yes, I’m blaming them.
And easily swayed, manipulated, and unhinged man should not be the leader of the free world. And definitely not get a second unchecked term.
I was begrudgingly leaning T rump going into last night and he just has this way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. He's so lazy, so easily baited into going off topic and into grievance politics. An utter buffoon. DeSantis would have called out the moderators for their bias, exposed Kamala for who she is and cake walked into the White House. I'm an Independent in a swing state and hope both of these candidates lose.
Remember… one side tried to overturn the results of an election with the fake electors plot
You should be on the 2 way undecided panel
Undecided? Nobody believes that.
Yay Kevin!
The smugness against Trump on the left is nauseating! Sean needs to toughen up or get someone else to advocate for Trump on here
The lady in the Pink “ said she never heard of project 2025” I knew she was a Trumper lol
Not everyone is terminally online. You didn’t know that?
How do we get in contact with you guys??
This chat is super quiet today! 😂😂
It’s 9/11 - we were watching ground zero ceremony
I think they both lost. Trump looked like he was hunched over the podium, pissed, & yelling. Kamala looked like a liar who was putting on a facade & and obfuscating. Neither won imo but if I had to choose I’d choose Kamala although she lied a ton & was never fact checked on any of her lies which the moderators should’ve have done to begin with.
She “looked” like a liar? You going w “vibes” or? What was one lie that she said that the moderators should’ve fact checked?
@@pulpmysticshe repeated the fine people hoax. She said police died on January 6th. She said Trump was involved with Project 2025. She lied repeatedly and on topics that have long been debunked. There are numerous examples. Just because she wasn’t fact checked doesn’t mean she wasn’t lying.
@@pulpmysticproject 2025? Fine people? Jan 6 police deaths? Bailing out rioters in Minnesota? I could keep going.
@@JS-ln4ns She told the truth about every one of these subjects. We all watched and listened to Charlottesville and January 6. Over 150 former Trump employees/associates work for Project 2025. JD Vance wrote the Forward. It’s Trump’s blueprint for a second term. He is a habitual liar.
@@pulpmysticoh please. She lied about so much and talked in slogans. Typical Marxist
The problem with all these games is we are gonna end up with a poor candidate getting gamed into office because the other candidate is worse. What a nightmare for a country. Disgraceful.
Mark should have asked for the last dummy to send his brother to 2Way.
The candidates and this election cycle is Dull, stale, tiresome, uninteresting, repetitious, spiritless, unexciting, dreary, lifeless, uninspiring, wearisome, monotonous, wishy-washy, depressing, joyless, apathetic.
It was so disrespectful of Mark calling Gabriel and Sean insane for saying average everyday voters saw debate differently than those in DC bubble. It reminded me of all the cable news channels on election eve 2016 saying" How did we miss this" Mark get out your bubble.
how does one get he 2way app ?
Every focus group Reuters and NYT say more undecided after debate moved to Trump. Mark laughed at Gabriel who said the DC bubble crowd and media saw the debate differently then average undecided voters.
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