Drawing on the Surface Pro 4: Full Review
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Now that I've had more time with the Surface Pro 4 I've put together a more comprehensive review.
Here is the exact Model that I'm testing out in this video:
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And here is a link to the Microsoft Answers page where I posted my questions about the pen and tapering problems.
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Fiiiiiinally a man who knows what he's talking about. I sub'd
i like the humor and details of product in review
Best UA-cam ever love the art style the way you describe everything and how amazing your voice sounds it’s so satisfying I legit almost feel asleep
I just have to say, you have made some brilliant content with these reviews. Thanks so much!
you actually illustrate the issues you have about instead of just bashing its specs which is refreshing
5:02 I loved how quickly you went from "POTATOS!' to 'not potatoes...' lmao
you've sold me, I'm gonna go by a Surface Pro 4 (maybe 5 if out) in January. Chears Mate
when i get my sfp3, i thinked about cintiq. Then, my friend told me they just use cintiq watch videos LOL. But thank you, you are such a good video maker in the same time you are a good at knowing all the softwares. Thank you so much!
You have earned my subscription. Loved the review, really opened my eyes! Been needing to find a way to use a little machine to use for drawing so I don't have to keep setting up my Wacom Cintiq.
Got all my answers in this video that I was worried about!
I just purchased a used Surface Pro 4, and im so excited for it to ship. Im upgrading from a 2006 Fujitsu Lifebook T5010, which is. VERY old.
I went out of my way to get a surface pro 4 with the i7 processor and 8 GB of ram so im hoping it runs everything SUPER smooth
I really appreciate your review and demonstration of the surface pro 4 and iPad pro as for me those two devices are most appealing to me for art work creation
That taper effect is also known as the shoestring or shoelace effect, it's a problem I've had with intuos drawing tablets in the past, messing around with pen settings should be able to fix it. Try reducing the sensitivity on the lighter end of the pressure spectrum, so you have to press slightly harder to get it to register your ink.
Why did you leave UA-cam
And animation I'm 🧐 curious
I've been looking for a video like this for SO. LONG. Thank you!
Thanks Brad. Very helpful video in considering price, features and performance for an on-the-go digital art tool.
The driver updates Microsoft released yesterday, July 14, 2016, have corrected the stroke tapering and smoothing issues Brad identified in this video. Check out SurfaceProArtist.com for more info.
❤️. Thank you
Microsoft 2.0: "We are now a hinge and magnet company!"
Antphoneigh LOLz
Thanks for the review, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the iPad Pro!
This reviewer is a liar, I pressed my eraser 3 times and my tablet didn't self destruct.
Oops, I didn't think anyone would actually try it.
hahaha
bruh this video is fukin old, they fixed that bug awhile ago.
Omega he's not a liar he just has like no subs lol
CatLovingGamer it's satire
Gotta say you add excellent humor spots to the video and I dig your review well done!
the best review ever.. now i know all what i wanted to know about the surface pro 4 .. thanks a lot ✨
Tapering seems to be fine now on photoshop. Looks like they fixed it.
Yep they fixed it in a mid-summer update.
Brad Colbow what does that mean?
I'm sensing a pattern here with your Surface reviews. by the time the Surface pro 7 rolls around you'll be rocking a full on Gandalf beard.
thanks for the review
the best review!!!! for those who draw a lot!!
That was one of the best reviews I have ever watched! Thank you!
You are amazing. 😃 Thanks for these lively & entertaining, but still informational, reviews. Very helpful.
Thanks for putting in the time to provide a quality review - very helpful
What a great review Brad ! Thank you very much for your job on this video ! I will buy an SP4/i7/16Gb/256Gb when it release in my country. Good continuation !
PS : Your drawings are beautiful !
YESSS Thank you so much for this! I'm about to buy the surface pro 4 i5/8gb version and i was nervous about how it would run illustrator or photoshop - Now i'm totally sold!
Very accommodating review, most reviews of the digitizer were either really vague and lightly touched up on or were reviewed by non-artists.
Really good and honest review, no fanboy BS, like always. :)
I was very pleased when you covered the software-side slowdown and calibration problems. A lot of reviewers don't seem to understand, that the "brush stroke slowdown" or "lag" is usually 99% because of the software (not hardware, not OS, but the application) you're drawing in. Especially Photoshop has ALWAYS been notorious for that (I can easily make my i7, 16gb ram, SSD rig to "cough" with PS + Cintiq, so...). This is the reason I'd always recommend people who use PS a lot, to go for the biggest amount of CPU+GPU+RAM possible, even though you can probably make it crawl nevertheless. :) And it's also the reason I don't draw that much anymore in PS, well, that and the price. Manga Studio/Clipstudio for example costs a fraction of what PS costs and IMO has easily a better brush engine, at least for my needs. Also Krita, it's FREE.
Also: I recommend trying Mischief for drawing. It runs so damn smooth on my SP4, the exact same model. And it has really changed the way I sketch nowadays digitally, it really has. Try it, might do some mindblowing. :)
Dude, look for the softwar in windows store called tablet pc mouse manager, is awesome to create custom buttons that works with touch, excelent to use for photoshop, or painter, no need to carry the keyboard. search for it, cost only 10 dollars, and i must say its brilliant. Nice video.
*I just found an ace reviewer!!!!! thank you so much!*
Love love love these videos! I'll be basing my purchase of the iPad pro based on your review.
I’m still using this Surface Pro 4 for my cartooning. The only thing I can complain about is the battery. It doesn’t last but only 3 hours at most. The other thing that doesn’t work anymore is the keyboard. Other than that, this machine still does all of my artwork. I bought it used back in 2018 and 5 years later it’s still running great.
Excellent review, Brad. And thanks for the laughs.
Your needs for the Type Cover seems to all be covered by this app on the Windows Store called Tablet PC Mouse (the v2 of it, currently in beta though). It's a key missing part of Windows touchscreen experience and offers pro artists like you the option to create custom onscreen controls to your liking...you really should give it a try.
I'm a 13 year old artist and i'm planning to start saving up for the Surface Pro 4. I'm guessing it's going to take a few years, but my question is, is it worth it?
(I guess it depends on how well I draw right now, but I think putting a link to my artwork would be spam or unwanted advertising)
Thanks :)
Was it worth it ? Im 15 and i'd like to start drawing and i was thinking about buying one
Rewatching this again in 2020 beacause finally I can afford it now.
I really enjoyed this review! I love your humor! I wish I could buy this product but because I'm just a hobby artist, already have a really good working laptop and really DON'T have the money for it right now. I will just wait and maybe replace my old laptop with this in the future (or a surface pro 5 one if they have come out with it). Very nice and to the point review! Also I like your art style, keep up the great work!
Love love love these videos! I'll be basing my purchase of the iPad pro based on your review. I'm looking for a drawing pad that can replace my old toshiba tecra and save my leg hair from third degree burns.
can't wait for your review on your iPad pro
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Since the Surface 4 was announced I've been wondering how the M3 model would perform for drawing with Photoshop and similar apps so this review was immensely useful. Thanks! I think I'll go for the i5, but it's really good to know that if my budget won't allow it I'll still get a ton of productive use from the base model. Great review.
Never laughed harder in my entire life. Thank you for your review.
Hey Brad,
Thanks for all these videos! all of your uploads are consistently well put together and extremely informative and helpful. I really love your art style as well. Do you have a regular comic in a paper or magazine or somewhere?
subscribing. Thanks for the badass review man! Definitely going to look into buying one now!
Awesome review! Subscribed!! Could you try out two monitors with the surface and photoshop at the time please? I am about to buy surface 4 pro. I am a web designer... Thank you a lot and I am looking for the next reviews!
How is it doing after 2 years now? Did the PC slow down? Did updates improve the drawing or did it get worse?
Worst purchase of my life so expensive when I look at it and especially if I compare it s lifetime with the hp spectre who was réalise in the same time the only good part is for drawing and even that it s not the best for it definitly a scam
you are great dude ! you deserve way more subscribers. I subscribed today :)
Looking forward to that Drawing on the iPad Pro review.
You are Great at this!!!! Im subscribed. Thank you for your channel
Did you unchecked "use graphic processor" in photoshop? It used to slow things down on intel HD cards.
6:30, you really should go for the I5 with 8 GB... I think you are the first reviewer to use the lighter version. Good review thought!
I've tested the Surface pro 2, 3, and 4; and honestly, I'm happiest with the SP2. Is that just me?
Best video ever! I am wondering if you could give a comparison between surface pen and apple pencil on the topic of LAGGING. I am kind of crazy to find a pen with no lagging or the least lagging. Thanks.
The iPad Pro blows this away. ZERO lag, incredible pressure sensitivity allowing nearly pixel-thin line precision, angular thickness adjustments. A SERIOUS tool. For Visio, the SB4 is probably ok. For artists? No way.
+John B ehh it just depends on your needs. I can't do my work on iPad Pro. It looks great for other things. It's not all black and white.
+John B iPad Pro also has lag. I have both iPad Pro and SP4. If you look for it, it's there. But it depends on the app. Wacom Bamboo Paper on iPad Pro is the ONLY app I discovered that has no lag.
Excellent review, thanks
I believe keyboards from Surface Pro 1 still work on all versions of the Surface! haha. Save your money!
Great review! But I disagree on needing the type cover. Yes, if you need to work on your lap or deploy and close your Surface often, that seems like a good fit.
For doing illustration I find that using a bluetooth keyboard is much better for the work flow. The best thing about this setup, is your keyboard does not have to be right in front of the screen where your hand will be when you're drawing. You can easily place it on the side of the Surface for all the "ctl z" and short cut keys you need. Bonus, you don't have to keep buying type covers when you upgrade your Surfaces.
+dzus Sounds like my setup albeit not on a Surface at this moment in time. I like the added flexibility with a Bluetooth keyboard, to put my tablet in portrait mode for certain tasks / designs - something you can't do with a physically-attached keyboard.
Me too, I like to put my in portrait mode when I'm doing some typing, somehow it works really well
Hei, Brad, try the new 2H tip, I think it works much better than the rubber ones. Much like a Wacom Pro Pen experience from Cintiq. The Rubber usually mess up the pressure sensitivity.
Hey Brad,
You probably already heard about LazyNezumi, but I think it can be used to fix that tapering problem
Thanks. Lisa Mobile Tech kinda showed some performance discrepancy with the PS between core m and i5 models.
I'd pick the i5 but who am I kidding.. too poor atm :P
Thanks for talking about the core M model!
"If the software thing doesnt pan out, Microsoft can always become a hinge company''
Hahah you won a sub for that :D
oh, the surface book has a hinge, alright. it's as impressive as the surface hinge in different ways.
I have this exact model and I find that after a while and with a large enough notebook even OneNote starts to slow down and you can’t really even use it to draw with
Have you used the pen in Animate CC yet? I'd love to know if there are any pressure issues in. Good review.
this^ please anwser :p
Sorry, but I think it would also work fine with just a small bluetooth keyboard, you don't really have to buy the expensive keyboard that belongs with it.
Oh and with the photoshop lag, did you have the laptop plugged in to the charger? because I notice lag almost always when I don't have my charger plugged in, because the laptop goes into saving energy mode. anyways, I am not really interested in the 4gb one, I can afford the 8gb one, so that would be my pick.
That's a good point, and a good way to save money.
I'll have to pay attention to that. I usually use in when it's not plugged in.
Sure, you can neglect the Type Cover, but remember, you are opening your Surface up to a whole new level of vulnerability
+YOLO KunaiLOL you can easily buy or make a little case for the surface, so it is protected against scratches or damage. I'm just trying to save money :)
You can also change the power plan when unplugged. It's always limited to about 50% of CPU power when unplugged. My old Core M version (Asus Zenbook) struggles to play a 1080p video with 60fps and it's very laggy but after changing the power plan it's no longer laggy.
if you're going to do that just get on the iPad Pro
This is a great and informative review, thanks so much. I have a surface pro 2 with a broken touchscreen and I'm thinking about picking up a 4. My main concern is have they fixed the cursor going super wonky at edges and corners?
by the way, a love your art :D
MS should send you a Surface Book with GPU. I am considering one and your review would have helped me choose between it or keeping my MacBook Pro and adding an iPad Pro.
click..click...click! Love the review, man. keep 'em coming.
Great review. THanks!
Fantastic review. I would love to know how Modelling software runs on this.
This review is good, hope to your review on iPad pro. it would be a good new if you can compare them with respect to drawing.
it was your 4 gigs of ram and if you don't have a really good i5 and i7 and used a i3 or pentium... you are not going to have a fun time.
I love the review. can you tell me if you know a way to turn off hand or finger recognition on sketchbook pro for the surface pro?
Hmm, even your Clip Studio demo looked laggier than what I'm seeing. You have other stuff opened in the background?
+Rick Rodriguez It does look laggy in the video but in real time Clip Studio felt great.
+Brad Colbow Did you used beardify ?, your beard just looked so funny, lol
you make good videos man, you're funny, I like it and you presentate nice. I'm a industrial product design student, I feel like buying an ipad pro or surface, but I don't think that it's worth it cos sketching on paper is just fine :S and I got a wacom intuos pro medium... I just want to buy stuff.
Very nice review! Thank you so much! I pre-ordered an SP4 and I'm so looking forward to draw on it (arriving next week here in Portugal) but now I worry that that weird tapering thing on the pen strokes may be a deal breaker for me, as I'm looking for very good pen experience. Does that also happen on Microsoft's Fresh Paint app? Not that I plan to use it, but could Microsoft be fine tuning the pen for their own apps? Also, have you installed the new Threshold 2 update for Windows 10? If so, any improvements on performance or drawing? Again, thank you for your excellent, fun review!
I bought The Surface Pro 4, for $1,623!
I'm waiting to be delivered at the moment so, It better be good because I've been waiting for 4 days. >:(
I have the i7 model with 512 gb ssd and run photoshop, adobe flash (animate), and a web browser and it does not slow down BUT one problem is it becomes hot when you have it plugged in. Something interesting I used by accident is using three fingers on the screen use one finger move side to side and it activates the undo in photoshop but is a bit inaccurate after 50 mistakes. also no tapper effects.
Thanks for your reviews! You've helped me in my decision making on what to get as a replacement for my Fujitsu Stylistic 5030d. I've had this thing for years and it's got a wacom digitizer with 1000+/- levels of pressure from what I understand. Unfortunately it's xp and not worth upgrading so I'm looking at the slates you're reviewing... but nothing seems to come close to the 10 year old slate that I've got. I wonder if you could get your hands on a Fujitsu Q775 to review? Cheers
6 mins in and still no drawing....
Great review. I have the i7 Surface Pro 3, and get annoyed by the heat issue (I use a little USB fan typically), though Chrome is actually more of a problem than drawing apps. The M-series SP 4 looked interesting just because it doesn't have a fan at all, but I use 3D apps as well, so not an option. I already bought the SP4 pen. Work might be getting me an iMac to work for home, so also wondering about the iPad Pro/pencil. Curious to see you using the SP 4 keyboard - I thought the keyboard was too awkwardly placed for drawing? Have you adapted?
I have those problems with my wacom on PS...
Brad, awesome informative video! Do you know if screen sharing programs such as Picarto or Joinme can be run while you’re in Photoshop/ClipStudio? Very tempted to get one of these but... if it can’t itd defeat the whole purchase’s purpose 😅
It went onsale so I bought an i7 16 G in the end. . . For spending my dad's money
My dad has this, and it's the only screen tablet I've ever drawn on
cool man
Hi, Great Review. Just wondering does the pen have tilt detection
It would be nice if you could try the free drawing program KRITA on this tablet. I use that program on my laptop with a Wacom Intuos 4, but I am getting more and more interested in getting the Wacom Companion or the Surface Pro 4.
the pen magnet is also a button too ( incase you didn't know)
When are you doing the iPad pro/Pencil review?? I don't care for the microsoft tablets.
cool review
"If the software doesn't work out Microsoft can become a magnet company." lol Thanks for the jokes!
Please review iPad Pro and Apple Pencil with Astropad.
Thanks for the review Brad.
I have the SP3 and the only thing I want from the SP4 is the pen improvements. Can you tell us if the new pen magnetically sticks to the SP3 as well as the pen and eraser working properly?
I'd love to get the new pen if it helps out with the drawing jitters the SP3 pen has.
And unlike the SP3 pen, which Microsoft offers no purchasable nibs for, there's a nib kit for the SP4 pen that includes several weights.
Thanks!
thanks for your review since I need another tablet that is more portable than my cintiq and I just don't think the wacom mobile studio is worth it for the price anyway. If I purchase the Surface Pro 4 that have 256 gb Intel i5 8gb ram would that be enough to run my three drawing programs like : Paint Tool Sai, Medibang, and Clip Studio Paint? I only plan to use this for drawing purposes since I already have a laptop
+Brittany Penman (Animevenus16) Yep, that will be a good configuration for running those apps. If you go with 8gb of ram you will be in good shape.
I think wacom is in pretty deep in it. All this tablet makers seem to listen to customer needs and compete with qualities that eat up the niche wacom once ruled...
i use krita for drawing on it and thats all i need it works pretty well