Hey everyone! Thought of another challenge with HDR publishing - we wouldn’t have time to do custom SDR grades, either and UA-cam’s auto-conversion is … well, it’s unreliable at best for us (so far). Still, we’ll never stop working toward it
#1: Do not put it above the fireplace! #2: See #1. Plus mounting a TV above a fireplace can void your TV warranty, most manufacturers consider excessive heat from a fireplace to be misuse and will not cover damage caused by such placement
All the ash, wood oils, and particulates will build up on the screen possibly scratching it and damaging the surface coating; and on the internal components not allowing as well heat dissipation vs just the heat from the fireplace. There is also the arcing that can happen if such happens between stuff due to the ash, damaging electronics in it and just ending the TV's life.
So many people get this wrong. My parents have their TV 1 foot from the ceiling above their fireplace. It’s a 65 inch and they sit 15 feet away. Terrible. Lol Pretty much every “cute” home mounts their tv WAY too high. It looks nice but makes zero sense for actually watching the TV.
For some people, watching TV is not a priority and not something they do a lot of. In that case, it makes sense to not give the TV the prime wall space. For people who watch a lot of TV though it’s silly for sure.
@@pieflies it's such a strange thing. because mounting a TV high up takes more effort and is more hassle and watching it is worse. just the hassle of it putting it up high is reason enough to not do it.
I solved this problem a long time ago by getting an adjustable electric TV stand mounted to my wall. With one press of a button I can adjust the height and the tilt depending on television size and seating distance. Being able to adjust the height and tilt of my television at the push of a button has been a absolute game changer and is one of the best investments I've ever made.
Hearing Caleb talk about finding the midpoint, viewing angle, and so on is great to hear as someone who teaches university students mathematics. Most of what is taught in a math class is very abstract and general, but it's done so with the idea that students (and people in general) can transfer these ideas to various aspects of their life; one being mounting a TV which practically every college student does.
@ Not at all, it’s just that those concepts are being applied in a more tangible way for most people than talking about the midpoint of an abstract 2D object that people might not even be able to imagine or measure physically.
ALL my siblings have their big screens wall mounted up high, lol. Same for most friends, with one of my nephews finally placing his new Samsung 65 inch on knee high table after I coaxed him and explained why lower was better. I dread going to watch a movie or game on my brother in law's 80ish inch screen; his is the highest wall mounted by far; I sit on a couch that's almost at right angles to screen and strain my neck and shoulders as I look upward, constantly shifting position on couch for relief.
When I mounted my parents' 65" TV, my mom wanted the TV higher but I convinced her that it was better to be closer to eye level. They have no complaints and their friends who have bigger and better TVs wish they mounted their TVs lower now because of all the strain they're placing on their body to constantly look up.
I have a TCL QM7 98 in mounted on a Fitueyes Eiffel stand. I sit 10 feet from the screen in a nice recliner. The screen center height is 48 inches. The bottom of the TV is about 22 inches. It' awesome, and the stand being on heavy casters makes moving for access the rear cabling is a dream.
Caleb, I’ve been watching you for over two years now, and I had no idea Digital Trends was a Portland based company. I grew up in Beaverton, and now live in Tigard. What a fun surprise!!
I prefer having my TV mounted just a few inches above eye level. It’s more comfortable for me because I like to sit back and rest my head on my couch’s headrest, which naturally makes my viewing angle a bit higher.
The most criminal thing anyone can do is mount TV on top of a tall fireplace. I could not stand that when living in South Carolina, it was awful and using a mantle mount is still annoying.
I never understood why builders in this day and age STILL insist on putting a fireplace smack dab in the middle of the main wall that 99.99% of American's want to put their TV! Lately I've seem a couple of builders wisely put a FP in the corner of main living area leaving a nice wide blank wall to use for furniture/decor/TV etc.
As someone whos mounted their 77" recently I recommend anyone with a TV above 55" to mount the mid point at 45" to account for the bottom of the TV being too close to the floor and if you watch slouched in your seat.
I think it was Home Theater Mag that once suggested ideal height is where the bottom of the TV is at eye level from your seating position. That is how my 65" is mounted on a tiltable mount slightly angled downward towards me. No neck strain, no off angle viewing. Super happy with it.
The problem these days is because wall mounting TV's is so common people tend to hang them like picture frames or mirrors which is way too high. Hell there's a whole reddit to shame people that do this. TV's hung 1 inch from the ceiling or lined up to the top of a door frame are ridiculous. TV's above a fireplace are automatically too high and the heat will damage the TV eventually.
It’s because they mount the tv to their eye level when there standing up but you need to lower the tv to eye level when your sitting down. Big mistake I see a lot of people do.
My tv is a 55” and it’s sitting 2 feet off the floor on a low profile entertainment stand but it’s almost perfect when I sit on the couch because it’s right at my eye level I only have to slightly look down not much. If it was up one more foot from the floor it be perfect but it’s passable as is.
I learned in my work that your I level must be at 1/3 from the bottom from the tv ( and everyone where we installed it that way loves it). More than 200 times done
We put a wall mount in YEARS ago when we got a 55" Sony HX900, it's since seen an X8500C, a 65" Z9D, and now an 65" A95L... unfortunately the VESA mounting points on the A95L a much lower on the TV than any of our previous TV's where they were more central. Thankfully it's not as bad as I thought it would be when I put it up, but moving the wall mount isn't really an option.
Its not like every company is LTT, where they bring an editing server down from B.C. First it was a custom build, that's pretty heavy, now they're using an even smaller rig that fits in a backpack and doesn't weigh up to 100 pounds. They got lucky though and had it setup at the esports arena in back, as they have friends in the groups in the arena that let them use their connection to upload from.
Re shooting in HDR, my friggin PHONE can shoot in 10-bit HDR and it saves in a ready to view HDR format! (HLG I believe).It looks very good, too. Can any video cameras do this kind of quick & dirty HDR?
There are quick(er) and dirty ways to do it with our cameras, but there's another side of it all too. If we put Caleb in front of those TVs, we'd need a lot stronger light to combat the brightness they put out. It would be a lot to haul booth to booth in small, crowded spaces. Also, the videos from CES are edited as quickly as possible and shared to the website as well, which doesn't support HDR, so it's most efficient to just export one SDR video that can be used for both. There's also all the graphics we use that need to be adjusted as well. And overall, I think we need a little more time on task before diving in at CES and having everything worked out for an HDR workflow without hiccups between us filming and editing in Vegas and any editors we have off-site. But we hear ya. HDR looks gorgeous so we're working on making it happen more often.
@ChrisHagan I don't understand your point re the lights. When Caleb is showing us the TVs, the camera will expose for the TVs. When Caleb and the TVs are both in the shot, just expose using some appropriate compromise - it's not critical. HDR videos uploaded to YT are available immediately in SDR. It does take some time before they are available in HDR, yes. (and I've noticed what may be a bug - if the SDR version has been viewed, and then the HDR version becomes available, the player seems to play some bits in SDR, and others in HDR! I was able to clear this condition by clearing the cache of the YT player. Nuts!) I take your point re graphics.
@ Those are good points. If it were just showing the TVs in HDR, it'd be a lot simpler. The few we've posted in HDR from the studio, we had to turn some of the practical lights behind Caleb down very low to keep it from being too distracting. My worry would be a TV at full brightness would be too much. And even if we expose for Caleb, the TV would still be blinding and uncomfortable to look at. But like I said, I think we have some learning to do for what works best, and maybe we can make it happen sooner than later.
@@ChrisHagan now I understand - thanks. Two ideas come to mind, possibly a bit crazy: 1. A big ND filter that you could unroll and place just behind Caleb 🤣 2. If the camera could be whacked into some kind of SDR mode when required, but still recording to the same HDR output file, that may help. (I have absolutely no idea whether this kind of feature exists)
I have a lay down/sectional couch in my living room with a wall mounted TV up pretty high. High TV mounts are great for laying down setups. If I put the TV at a "conventional" height, it would be way too low.
So if Hisense announces new U6/U7/U8 models in March, when will be the best time to buy a 2024 U8 model? Will dealers try to clear out inventory before March, or after?
This is an important question. I mounted a very large screen TV into the ceiling and it SHRUNK. Everyone says the screen is too small yet was one of the biggest 5 years ago! Lesson: if mounting in the ceiling buy a much bigger TV than you require.
Loaded Question. Why are your HDR videos "so much bigger" than SDR edits/shoots? Dolby published a report in ~2008 that 10bpc AVC was about the same filesize as 8bpc. After that, it's just metadata. So shouldn't Main10 HEVC be the same? Since it's over 10 years old now, I think the encoders are about as efficient as they can be for HEVC, so now's the time to try...
MY 85in TV is mounted so my eyes are at level ,center of the screen and 7 feet away. Same with my speakers ,set at ear level . Mounting a TV high or above a fire place will just cause eye strain and neck strain , and you don't want that. But for some , it's always a compromise .
Can any body go to CES or is it limited to certain people. If any body can go how much does it cost and is it always in December in Las Vegas? Thank You.
Hello. Just discovered your channel. I am feeling so overwhelmed with having to buy a TV. I will be setting up a living room in a basement. There are a few small windows & sliding glass door. (Will have curtains). My ex always took care of the TV’s. Now I am on my own & feeling lost. I know there use to be one’s you stayed away from because they messed up screens. I’m totally dating myself by even saying that. I know you have tons of videos on here. Now there we are in 2025 is there a video reference you can direct me to watch. This LCD, LED, ABC….all of these letters are just that. Letters to me. I’m here to educate myself on what all of these things even are. This way I purchase what will work for me, I am not ignorant to a sales person talking tech & me paying more for something I don’t need. Thank you for your content. I appreciate you talking in terms even I can understand. ❤.
The middle of the screen should at eye level if you don’t have a recliner chair! Stands are usually way too high! I never understood why builders have to build houses with a fire place in the middle of the family room!
besides this video. there have not been any real "what is the best way to mount a TV" info videos i have seen so i am just going to say it. the best way to mount a TV no matter what TV or size is to either put it on a swivel mount or a full motion wall mount. this way you will still have access to the back of the TV if things change like needing to add or remove wiring for devices you wish to add or remove at a later date to mounting the TV. DO NOT just go with the TV stand or fixed mount unless you have everything you want or a smaller TV because the bigger the TV, the less forgiving it is.
You’re never going to get a ready-made stand or table that will give you eye-level-at-center height. I had mine custome made for my lounge. My 75 inch TV sits close to where the center is at my eye level.
Hello Caleb/Digital Trends. I have enjoyed your content for a long time, I bought my Samsung s95b partly from your reviews, and others. I would like to point out something, that you might not be aware of, a lot of people who watch your UA-cam content, do so on their TV, as I do using a streaming box, like the Nvidia Shield that uses the Android TV OS. Unfortunately the Android TV "UA-cam App" dose NOT show the Box's that you think you are pointing to in your videos, that should link to the mentioned added content. This could just be a Nvidia Shield problem, but is annoying, every time you point to something, there is nothing there to click on. This dose not happen on a Android phone, only the Android TV App. Thanks for all your content, now and in the future.
Mounting hight in audio is a thing tough! Usually your head isn't exactly 90° anyway, you dont sit up straight! And if you should watch the fireplace as well it can't be to close, and small children, people and chairs 🪑 would be in the way! I also imagine a bit higher possition remove some gleare/reflexes in the screen 📺 you don't wan't to see yourself in the screen!
I've always thought mounting a TV above a fireplace is too high. I'd rather find a wall with some needless furniture to put it on, or put it in a corner if need be
Okay, the table my 65 inch A95K sits on is 22 inches. I usually sit on my couch centered across from the TV. How many DEGREES would be the viewing ANGLE?
When mentioning imperial units of measurement, could you please also show the metric units. For a non-imperial watcher it's pretty difficult to understand that measure units. Thank you!!
Height, as an installer I always suggest eye height should be 1/3 from the bottom, clients in the majority of clients are happy. The 15deg head tilt is a good rule of thumb to avoid issues with posture, this is well documented in VESA recommendations .
Is this true? Will a 120 inch U7,U8,U9 release? I did not hear an answer to this question. With that said, I'm skeptical of this claim. I could see a 110 or 115 inch, based on other available panels. I'm just not willing to be gouged too extremely for a larger TV. $20k is the highest I would pay for a TV. $30k, not interested. That is a decent car. Only reason I prefer the TCL 115 over the 110UX currently - the 110UX panel is a mirror. Would be so distracting I would not enjoy the purchase. So I am waiting to see what drops this year. Samsung NeoQLED 100 inch is not out of the question.
The issue isn’t bad quality Wi-Fi. The issue is overwhelming wireless transmissions and the noise and interference that comes from it. When you combine all the exhibitors with all the attendees, it is wireless pandemonium. The ONLY time we have ever had wireless microphone issues is at CES. If there was a way to visualize the wireless activity with a color - say, black - it’s be a blackout.
Yeah, that's when you either demolish the fireplace or ditch your TV stand and wall mount it 😂 Another issue-many TVs have terrible off-axis performance, and you need to consider that. The contrast and black levels, especially with local dimming, affects dark blacks too. Stop telling people it’s fine-it’s not 😂
Good thing no one owns recliners, you know where your eyes end up near the ceiling and your TV should be mounted higher. Frankly if you have an 85" TV it should be near an 8' ceiling. Additionally, the farther back you sit makes it much less critical.
Fireplace is too high. You will be craning your neck like sitting too close to the screen at the theater. Also residual heat from the firplace can damage your TV (heat and smoke rises). If you have to mount above fireplace, use a tilting mount and angle the TV down and don't use the fireplace.
Better to have it a bit too high than too low IMO. Spend too much time with your chin down looking at screens and you could end up with a hunched back. When it's higher, you can recline and keep your neck straight.
Having a TV mounted too low is far less common. With the larger TV sizes now it’s almost impossible to do with common lounge room furniture (TV cabinet & seating heights).
For TV height just place the bottom quarter line at eye level. I.e. imagine horizontal lines dividing your TV into 4 and rather than the centre line being at eye level you want the line between the centre line and bottom of the TV at eye level. Most people are comfortable looking slightly up and their natural gaze is often raised anyway by reclining. If you put the centre at true eye level and then lounge back or recline you now have to look down to look at the centre of the TV. Using the bottom quarter line also splits the difference between the TVs centre line and a centre speaker placed below it. Further, your TV should ideally be as big as possible if you're able to sit far enough back to maintain a good viewing angle but seated eye level is lower than the centre line of your wall. As a result as your TV size increases the bottom of the TV will get too close to the floor if you put the centre at eye level and you may even run out of room at larger sizes altogether. Obviously ceiling height varies but for most placing the bottom quarter line at eye height with a large screen should put the centre of the TV closer to the centre of your wall.
I always watch tv as close as possible similar to when people are on there phones and they are viewing content from there phones at the very close distance. I do the same thing for watching tv and I have been doing it for so many years and I have to wear glasses otherwise things become blurry when watching tv or looking at menus at a restaurant when the menus are at a far distance. The only time I don't need to wear my eye glasses is when I'm using my phone. When something is from a far distance, I need to wear my glasses and when something is close I don't need to wear glasses since I have astigmatism for my eye sight. I don't get headaches from watching content for long periods of time, but I do get headaches some times if I stay up and I don't get very much sleep or lack of eating when I don't have the appetite to eat since that's the only time I get a headache. I have been used to watching content as close as possible since I trained my eyes to do it even though it's a very bad habit and it has already become second nature for myself. The reason why I sit as close as possible is because I want to feel immersed in the content and it feels like I'm part of the content without wearing a vr headset or 3d glasses. When viewing 4k content, it feels more similar to augmented reality than looking thru a window that most people say. When the display is glossy like a tv, it always reminds me of a touch screen display. I want to interact with the display like it's a touch screen even though the display might not be a touch screen display like an oled and mini led display that uses the glossy display.
Great video! I used to have my TV at eye level, but I was feeling more strain (eye and neck) than when I was higher. At first I thought it was because I was used to it being lower. It turns out it was because my couch back goes all the way to my head. And when I'm sitting there, my eyes are angled upwards. Kind of like a recliner. Especially if I had the footrest out. But that's just my take. Cheers!
Funny how soap opera effect is due to fake frames being added. Now the Nvidia 5000 series gpus will use AI to generate additional frames lol. Be curious how well it works and looks
Can't believe it took nearly SIX MINUTES to explain this.... "Center of TV should be as close to 48 inches as possible if most people will be sitting when watching and LOWER is always better than HIGHER from eye level." PERIOD.
Hey everyone! Thought of another challenge with HDR publishing - we wouldn’t have time to do custom SDR grades, either and UA-cam’s auto-conversion is … well, it’s unreliable at best for us (so far). Still, we’ll never stop working toward it
I look at my tv on my bed at times and it seems to low to me with those Gide lines
It would be helpful if you added metric measures, many of us international viewer it's hard to convert those imperial measures in realtime.
#1: Do not put it above the fireplace!
#2: See #1.
Plus mounting a TV above a fireplace can void your TV warranty, most manufacturers consider excessive heat from a fireplace to be misuse and will not cover damage caused by such placement
All the ash, wood oils, and particulates will build up on the screen possibly scratching it and damaging the surface coating; and on the internal components not allowing as well heat dissipation vs just the heat from the fireplace. There is also the arcing that can happen if such happens between stuff due to the ash, damaging electronics in it and just ending the TV's life.
So many people get this wrong. My parents have their TV 1 foot from the ceiling above their fireplace. It’s a 65 inch and they sit 15 feet away. Terrible. Lol Pretty much every “cute” home mounts their tv WAY too high. It looks nice but makes zero sense for actually watching the TV.
For some people, watching TV is not a priority and not something they do a lot of.
In that case, it makes sense to not give the TV the prime wall space.
For people who watch a lot of TV though it’s silly for sure.
@@pieflies it's such a strange thing. because mounting a TV high up takes more effort and is more hassle and watching it is worse. just the hassle of it putting it up high is reason enough to not do it.
I solved this problem a long time ago by getting an adjustable electric TV stand mounted to my wall. With one press of a button I can adjust the height and the tilt depending on television size and seating distance. Being able to adjust the height and tilt of my television at the push of a button has been a absolute game changer and is one of the best investments I've ever made.
When would you use the tilt function to improve your viewing?
@@DjKProductionswhen you recline. I have a nice theatre style loveseat thing and what I'd give if my tv could raise and then tilt down some.
YES I AGREE. l mounted into my ceiling. Lying in bed watching TV is a new found INEXPENSIVE luxury.
...along with my heated electric blanket...
@@johnkean6852This sounds like a terrible idea. Peak laziness
Hearing Caleb talk about finding the midpoint, viewing angle, and so on is great to hear as someone who teaches university students mathematics. Most of what is taught in a math class is very abstract and general, but it's done so with the idea that students (and people in general) can transfer these ideas to various aspects of their life; one being mounting a TV which practically every college student does.
Guess you have to be a math student to understand!
@ Not at all, it’s just that those concepts are being applied in a more tangible way for most people than talking about the midpoint of an abstract 2D object that people might not even be able to imagine or measure physically.
@@MikeAbili makes it even more intangible for me!
ALL my siblings have their big screens wall mounted up high, lol. Same for most friends, with one of my nephews finally placing his new Samsung 65 inch on knee high table after I coaxed him and explained why lower was better. I dread going to watch a movie or game on my brother in law's 80ish inch screen; his is the highest wall mounted by far; I sit on a couch that's almost at right angles to screen and strain my neck and shoulders as I look upward, constantly shifting position on couch for relief.
When I mounted my parents' 65" TV, my mom wanted the TV higher but I convinced her that it was better to be closer to eye level. They have no complaints and their friends who have bigger and better TVs wish they mounted their TVs lower now because of all the strain they're placing on their body to constantly look up.
@@pete49327 100% agree. It’s SO common for people to mount their TV 6 feet up the wall. lol
I have a TCL QM7 98 in mounted on a Fitueyes Eiffel stand. I sit 10 feet from the screen in a nice recliner. The screen center height is 48 inches. The bottom of the TV is about 22 inches. It' awesome, and the stand being on heavy casters makes moving for access the rear cabling is a dream.
Get a tilting screen.
Also theres automatic lowering mounts for fireplaces. They're expensive @$600, but impressive.
Caleb, I’ve been watching you for over two years now, and I had no idea Digital Trends was a Portland based company. I grew up in Beaverton, and now live in Tigard. What a fun surprise!!
r/TVTooHigh
I definitely think a lot of people put their TVs too high, but at the same a lot of people in that sub are kinda nuts lol
Hahaa😂this.
According to them, everything is too high if it isn't on a TV stand
Literally came here to find this 😂 I'll be sorely disappointed if this isn't posted in the sub by the time the video is done.
They're right.
I prefer having my TV mounted just a few inches above eye level. It’s more comfortable for me because I like to sit back and rest my head on my couch’s headrest, which naturally makes my viewing angle a bit higher.
The most criminal thing anyone can do is mount TV on top of a tall fireplace. I could not stand that when living in South Carolina, it was awful and using a mantle mount is still annoying.
I never understood why builders in this day and age STILL insist on putting a fireplace smack dab in the middle of the main wall that 99.99% of American's want to put their TV! Lately I've seem a couple of builders wisely put a FP in the corner of main living area leaving a nice wide blank wall to use for furniture/decor/TV etc.
As someone whos mounted their 77" recently I recommend anyone with a TV above 55" to mount the mid point at 45" to account for the bottom of the TV being too close to the floor and if you watch slouched in your seat.
I think it was Home Theater Mag that once suggested ideal height is where the bottom of the TV is at eye level from your seating position. That is how my 65" is mounted on a tiltable mount slightly angled downward towards me. No neck strain, no off angle viewing. Super happy with it.
My 65in A95K is wall mounted and measures 22in up from the floor. Perfect!
Where’s the link to the calculator?
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in the video description
My 83 lg G4 is mounted centred eye level.
Didnt know Tony Kroos was a TV master
The problem these days is because wall mounting TV's is so common people tend to hang them like picture frames or mirrors which is way too high. Hell there's a whole reddit to shame people that do this. TV's hung 1 inch from the ceiling or lined up to the top of a door frame are ridiculous. TV's above a fireplace are automatically too high and the heat will damage the TV eventually.
It’s because they mount the tv to their eye level when there standing up but you need to lower the tv to eye level when your sitting down. Big mistake I see a lot of people do.
Thank you for answering my question.
My tv is a 55” and it’s sitting 2 feet off the floor on a low profile entertainment stand but it’s almost perfect when I sit on the couch because it’s right at my eye level I only have to slightly look down not much. If it was up one more foot from the floor it be perfect but it’s passable as is.
100” Mini-LED U8K @ +30* (from seat level ) - ( 5* ( mount adjustment) @ 10’ from reclining seat. So far excellent
I like how hisense added one extra inch over TCL just so their model is the largest
At those sizes my brain just doesn't distinguish between sizes. Good marketing but I wonder if peope really react to 1" difference at that size.
I'd like to agree, but I'm sure it comes down to the panel they sourced, which is probably made by BOE. So really BOE is probably trying to 1-up CSOT.
I learned in my work that your I level must be at 1/3 from the bottom from the tv ( and everyone where we installed it that way loves it). More than 200 times done
We put a wall mount in YEARS ago when we got a 55" Sony HX900, it's since seen an X8500C, a 65" Z9D, and now an 65" A95L... unfortunately the VESA mounting points on the A95L a much lower on the TV than any of our previous TV's where they were more central. Thankfully it's not as bad as I thought it would be when I put it up, but moving the wall mount isn't really an option.
"WiFi at CES sucks"
Definitely didn't expect that at a tech exhibition.
I was thinking when the folks at CES hear this they're are going to reject Caleb's registration next year! 😂
Las Vegas to Portland - that jet-lag is brutal
What Sci-fi videos are you using to demo the tv at 3:38 and 4:55
That’s all content by Jennifer Gala - Athena Gala on YT. She has a few excellent channels.
@@Caleb_Denison awesome!
Love my Hisense ❤
Its not like every company is LTT, where they bring an editing server down from B.C. First it was a custom build, that's pretty heavy, now they're using an even smaller rig that fits in a backpack and doesn't weigh up to 100 pounds. They got lucky though and had it setup at the esports arena in back, as they have friends in the groups in the arena that let them use their connection to upload from.
That was a fun video!
Re shooting in HDR, my friggin PHONE can shoot in 10-bit HDR and it saves in a ready to view HDR format! (HLG I believe).It looks very good, too. Can any video cameras do this kind of quick & dirty HDR?
There are quick(er) and dirty ways to do it with our cameras, but there's another side of it all too. If we put Caleb in front of those TVs, we'd need a lot stronger light to combat the brightness they put out. It would be a lot to haul booth to booth in small, crowded spaces.
Also, the videos from CES are edited as quickly as possible and shared to the website as well, which doesn't support HDR, so it's most efficient to just export one SDR video that can be used for both.
There's also all the graphics we use that need to be adjusted as well.
And overall, I think we need a little more time on task before diving in at CES and having everything worked out for an HDR workflow without hiccups between us filming and editing in Vegas and any editors we have off-site.
But we hear ya. HDR looks gorgeous so we're working on making it happen more often.
@ChrisHagan I don't understand your point re the lights. When Caleb is showing us the TVs, the camera will expose for the TVs. When Caleb and the TVs are both in the shot, just expose using some appropriate compromise - it's not critical.
HDR videos uploaded to YT are available immediately in SDR. It does take some time before they are available in HDR, yes. (and I've noticed what may be a bug - if the SDR version has been viewed, and then the HDR version becomes available, the player seems to play some bits in SDR, and others in HDR! I was able to clear this condition by clearing the cache of the YT player. Nuts!)
I take your point re graphics.
@ Those are good points. If it were just showing the TVs in HDR, it'd be a lot simpler. The few we've posted in HDR from the studio, we had to turn some of the practical lights behind Caleb down very low to keep it from being too distracting. My worry would be a TV at full brightness would be too much. And even if we expose for Caleb, the TV would still be blinding and uncomfortable to look at. But like I said, I think we have some learning to do for what works best, and maybe we can make it happen sooner than later.
@@ChrisHagan now I understand - thanks. Two ideas come to mind, possibly a bit crazy:
1. A big ND filter that you could unroll and place just behind Caleb 🤣
2. If the camera could be whacked into some kind of SDR mode when required, but still recording to the same HDR output file, that may help. (I have absolutely no idea whether this kind of feature exists)
I have a lay down/sectional couch in my living room with a wall mounted TV up pretty high. High TV mounts are great for laying down setups. If I put the TV at a "conventional" height, it would be way too low.
4:38 That's the reason why I have to stand up if I'm going to watch TV due to my visual disability.
So if Hisense announces new U6/U7/U8 models in March, when will be the best time to buy a 2024 U8 model? Will dealers try to clear out inventory before March, or after?
This is an important question.
I mounted a very large screen TV into the ceiling and it SHRUNK.
Everyone says the screen is too small yet was one of the biggest 5 years ago!
Lesson: if mounting in the ceiling buy a much bigger TV than you require.
Loaded Question. Why are your HDR videos "so much bigger" than SDR edits/shoots? Dolby published a report in ~2008 that 10bpc AVC was about the same filesize as 8bpc. After that, it's just metadata. So shouldn't Main10 HEVC be the same? Since it's over 10 years old now, I think the encoders are about as efficient as they can be for HEVC, so now's the time to try...
There's also accomodating for the centre channel for movies
If you published in black and white instead of SDR, would we get 8 to 12 videos per day?
MY 85in TV is mounted so my eyes are at level ,center of the screen and 7 feet away. Same with my speakers ,set at ear level . Mounting a TV high or above a fire place will just cause eye strain and neck strain , and you don't want that. But for some , it's always a compromise .
Regarding HDR (at CES):
Need a computer with Threadripper cpu and SSD.
Need Starlink.
Can any body go to CES or is it limited to certain people. If any body can go how much does it cost and is it always in December in Las Vegas? Thank You.
Thanks
Hello. Just discovered your channel. I am feeling so overwhelmed with having to buy a TV. I will be setting up a living room in a basement. There are a few small windows & sliding glass door. (Will have curtains). My ex always took care of the TV’s. Now I am on my own & feeling lost. I know there use to be one’s you stayed away from because they messed up screens. I’m totally dating myself by even saying that. I know you have tons of videos on here. Now there we are in 2025 is there a video reference you can direct me to watch. This LCD, LED, ABC….all of these letters are just that. Letters to me. I’m here to educate myself on what all of these things even are. This way I purchase what will work for me, I am not ignorant to a sales person talking tech & me paying more for something I don’t need. Thank you for your content. I appreciate you talking in terms even I can understand. ❤.
The middle of the screen should at eye level if you don’t have a recliner chair! Stands are usually way too high! I never understood why builders have to build houses with a fire place in the middle of the family room!
Why not create a system where that tv can be moved down (with those hinged brackets or ...)?
besides this video. there have not been any real "what is the best way to mount a TV" info videos i have seen so i am just going to say it. the best way to mount a TV no matter what TV or size is to either put it on a swivel mount or a full motion wall mount. this way you will still have access to the back of the TV if things change like needing to add or remove wiring for devices you wish to add or remove at a later date to mounting the TV. DO NOT just go with the TV stand or fixed mount unless you have everything you want or a smaller TV because the bigger the TV, the less forgiving it is.
You’re never going to get a ready-made stand or table that will give you eye-level-at-center height. I had mine custome made for my lounge. My 75 inch TV sits close to where the center is at my eye level.
Hello Caleb/Digital Trends. I have enjoyed your content for a long time, I bought my Samsung s95b partly from your reviews, and others.
I would like to point out something, that you might not be aware of, a lot of people who watch your UA-cam content, do so on their TV, as I do
using a streaming box, like the Nvidia Shield that uses the Android TV OS.
Unfortunately the Android TV "UA-cam App" dose NOT show the Box's that you think you are pointing to in your videos, that should link to the mentioned added content.
This could just be a Nvidia Shield problem, but is annoying, every time you point to something, there is nothing there to click on.
This dose not happen on a Android phone, only the Android TV App.
Thanks for all your content, now and in the future.
Mounting hight in audio is a thing tough! Usually your head isn't exactly 90° anyway, you dont sit up straight! And if you should watch the fireplace as well it can't be to close, and small children, people and chairs 🪑 would be in the way! I also imagine a bit higher possition remove some gleare/reflexes in the screen 📺 you don't wan't to see yourself in the screen!
I've always thought mounting a TV above a fireplace is too high. I'd rather find a wall with some needless furniture to put it on, or put it in a corner if need be
It is ironic that WiFi is slow at the worlds biggest tecnology fair 😂
The issue is wireless congestion. It’s a TON of noise and interference. Even our wireless mic’s got screwed on several occasions
Thanks so much for explaining about the height of the screen but I got lost on the degree thing.
What is viewing angle? No one has explained that to me in a way I can understand. No one!!
Okay, the table my 65 inch A95K sits on is 22 inches. I usually sit on my couch centered across from the TV. How many DEGREES would be the viewing ANGLE?
When mentioning imperial units of measurement, could you please also show the metric units. For a non-imperial watcher it's pretty difficult to understand that measure units. Thank you!!
The solution for TV to high is simple. Lift the sofa.
I don't have one but I'm guessing about 16" off the ground without looking at the measurements.
Not gonna lie: I find tv's mounted too damn high just as infuriating as motion smoothing turned on because I'm just _that_ kind of guy.
Height, as an installer I always suggest eye height should be 1/3 from the bottom, clients in the majority of clients are happy. The 15deg head tilt is a good rule of thumb to avoid issues with posture, this is well documented in VESA recommendations .
I had to turn off motion smoothness off. It just looked so weird.
I leave it on but at the lowest setting. I like the tv to smooth out content but not over do it.
All the god damn Airbnb’s listed have the top of the tv damn near touching the ceiling but at least they tilt it down for you 🤦♀️
The middle of the screen should at eye level if you don’t have a recliner chair!
Is this true? Will a 120 inch U7,U8,U9 release? I did not hear an answer to this question.
With that said, I'm skeptical of this claim. I could see a 110 or 115 inch, based on other available panels.
I'm just not willing to be gouged too extremely for a larger TV. $20k is the highest I would pay for a TV.
$30k, not interested. That is a decent car.
Only reason I prefer the TCL 115 over the 110UX currently - the 110UX panel is a mirror. Would be so distracting I would not enjoy the purchase.
So I am waiting to see what drops this year. Samsung NeoQLED 100 inch is not out of the question.
Surprised Wi-Fi is so bad at the top cutting edge tech event! Jeez, get some leading Wi-Fi companies to sponsor.
The issue isn’t bad quality Wi-Fi. The issue is overwhelming wireless transmissions and the noise and interference that comes from it. When you combine all the exhibitors with all the attendees, it is wireless pandemonium. The ONLY time we have ever had wireless microphone issues is at CES. If there was a way to visualize the wireless activity with a color - say, black - it’s be a blackout.
@ - Understood. Thanks for clarifying.
I hate how people ask subjective questions. Height depends on many diff factors
At eye level from your bed. Some tech tried to put it higher and I'm like I lie in bed to watch TV I don't wanna lift my neck.
how far are you sitting from your 65 inch tv on this video??????
That just judging looks like 10 feet
Yeah, that's when you either demolish the fireplace or ditch your TV stand and wall mount it 😂 Another issue-many TVs have terrible off-axis performance, and you need to consider that. The contrast and black levels, especially with local dimming, affects dark blacks too. Stop telling people it’s fine-it’s not 😂
The bottom of my 100 inch is roughly 30 inches off the ground. But the tv is 50.6 inches tall.
Good thing no one owns recliners, you know where your eyes end up near the ceiling and your TV should be mounted higher. Frankly if you have an 85" TV it should be near an 8' ceiling. Additionally, the farther back you sit makes it much less critical.
I have my 77 inch S89C at 52 inches tall in the center which is perfect for me sitting 12 ft from it.
Fireplace is too high. You will be craning your neck like sitting too close to the screen at the theater. Also residual heat from the firplace can damage your TV (heat and smoke rises).
If you have to mount above fireplace, use a tilting mount and angle the TV down and don't use the fireplace.
I would never place it above the fireplace, not that I have one. Mine is about the same as yours.
71 inch is 6foot. How can the mid point of a tv be taller than the average height?
I prefer the TV mid point on eye level and the center channel on top
I’ve tried centre channel on top and below it don’t really mater as long as it’s in the centre of the screen. I do like bottom for looks.
12:50 "You'd need a display as capable as the TV itself to be able to see what the TV was doing". Do you know who your audience are lol?
Better to have it a bit too high than too low IMO. Spend too much time with your chin down looking at screens and you could end up with a hunched back. When it's higher, you can recline and keep your neck straight.
It shrinks high up on the ceiling so be sure to buy a bigger sized TV for ceiling fixing!
Having a TV mounted too low is far less common.
With the larger TV sizes now it’s almost impossible to do with common lounge room furniture (TV cabinet & seating heights).
Optimum viewing height depends on whether one knows how to use their eyeballs vs their neck.
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Got damn Son! Elevate the game. Sheesh!
For TV height just place the bottom quarter line at eye level. I.e. imagine horizontal lines dividing your TV into 4 and rather than the centre line being at eye level you want the line between the centre line and bottom of the TV at eye level.
Most people are comfortable looking slightly up and their natural gaze is often raised anyway by reclining. If you put the centre at true eye level and then lounge back or recline you now have to look down to look at the centre of the TV. Using the bottom quarter line also splits the difference between the TVs centre line and a centre speaker placed below it. Further, your TV should ideally be as big as possible if you're able to sit far enough back to maintain a good viewing angle but seated eye level is lower than the centre line of your wall. As a result as your TV size increases the bottom of the TV will get too close to the floor if you put the centre at eye level and you may even run out of room at larger sizes altogether. Obviously ceiling height varies but for most placing the bottom quarter line at eye height with a large screen should put the centre of the TV closer to the centre of your wall.
Put it where ever is comfortable for you. If that’s on the ceiling go for it.
For me, 10 inches above my TV stand. LG G4 77
As close to sitting eye level as possible...slight chin up.
The best height, is eye level.
Important eye level when siting down not standing.
I don't know, wacky tobacco affects everyone differently
I always watch tv as close as possible similar to when people are on there phones and they are viewing content from there phones at the very close distance. I do the same thing for watching tv and I have been doing it for so many years and I have to wear glasses otherwise things become blurry when watching tv or looking at menus at a restaurant when the menus are at a far distance. The only time I don't need to wear my eye glasses is when I'm using my phone. When something is from a far distance, I need to wear my glasses and when something is close I don't need to wear glasses since I have astigmatism for my eye sight. I don't get headaches from watching content for long periods of time, but I do get headaches some times if I stay up and I don't get very much sleep or lack of eating when I don't have the appetite to eat since that's the only time I get a headache. I have been used to watching content as close as possible since I trained my eyes to do it even though it's a very bad habit and it has already become second nature for myself. The reason why I sit as close as possible is because I want to feel immersed in the content and it feels like I'm part of the content without wearing a vr headset or 3d glasses. When viewing 4k content, it feels more similar to augmented reality than looking thru a window that most people say. When the display is glossy like a tv, it always reminds me of a touch screen display. I want to interact with the display like it's a touch screen even though the display might not be a touch screen display like an oled and mini led display that uses the glossy display.
Great video! I used to have my TV at eye level, but I was feeling more strain (eye and neck) than when I was higher. At first I thought it was because I was used to it being lower. It turns out it was because my couch back goes all the way to my head. And when I'm sitting there, my eyes are angled upwards. Kind of like a recliner. Especially if I had the footrest out. But that's just my take. Cheers!
Funny how soap opera effect is due to fake frames being added. Now the Nvidia 5000 series gpus will use AI to generate additional frames lol.
Be curious how well it works and looks
Most of us mount our expensive tvs higher to keep out of reach of kids and friends who like to touch lol 😃
Took me a bit to realize you weren't putting yourself down by referencing your beady eyes over and over.
r/TVtoohigh
This is all great, but not realistic for most people. Any rumors or thoughts on when consumers can see a size and price more palatable to most homes?
My summary of this video:
48” to the center of the TV screen is the perfect height for people who have beady eyes
If you are obstructing the view of your TV, you're doing it wrong, literally.... end of discussion.
Tbh TVs above the fireplace look horrible, height, location and just looks tacky imo
Can't believe it took nearly SIX MINUTES to explain this....
"Center of TV should be as close to 48 inches as possible if most people will be sitting when watching and LOWER is always better than HIGHER from eye level." PERIOD.
Hisense is trash and don't last long.
Your stand is to high. But you are the expert so most likely you have the arguments for your choice 😅
First for once
Finally
This is the first You Asked where i learned nothing.
Fingers crossed for nore intersting content next time.