3rd Battle of Kharkov Pt 5 - 5th SS PzGr Wiking, 1st SS LAAH, 3rd SS Totenkopf, 2nd SS Das Reich
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Episode 101
5 Part mini-series
• 3rd Battle of Kharkov ...
This nice combat footage is of the Finnish Volunteer Battalion which was part of Rgt Nordland in the 5. SS PzGr Div Wiking. In addition to more from this reel, we’ll continue with the original German combat report that was written by a member of the 7th PzD at the completion of the 3rd Battle of Kharkov in early 1943. We’ll touch on the Grischino Massacre and see some excellent footage of Felix Steiner, Division Wiking’s commander. Finally I’ll show a 1943 parade of a German tank tank in Norway so stick around. This is part 5 in this series covering the battle. You’ll find links to the other parts at the end of this video
Page 1 of the report explains the combat operations of three German divisions, the 7th and the 11th PzDs, and the 5. SS Wiking. It’s covered in part 1 of this series. Page two and three of the report are translated Soviet communications describing the strenuous situation that the powerful Mobile Group Popov found itself in. The content of these pages can be found in Part 2, 3 and 4. The series contains plenty of rare Waffen SS footage that you almost certainly have never seen.
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Page 4 of the report begins with the Soviet officer’s final communication to his superiors made on February 19 before being overrun. After that is a concluding detailed list of combat losses inflicted on the enemy written by a German officer.
All preparations have been made to regain control of the situation around Krassnoarmejskoje.
The Commander of the 4th Gard Tank Corps
Guard Major General of Armor Polubojarew
Chief of Staff of the 4th Guard Tank Corps
Guard Colonel Nagaibakow
-- GERMAN REPORT CONTINUES --
In the time period from 7.1. until and including the 27.2.1943
the following has been captured or destroyed by the 7th Pz.Div.
4 Airplanes
144 Cannons (3 of them rocket launchers)
276 Anti-tank guns
354 Tanks
414 Vehicles
70 Mortars
317 Machineguns
114 Anti-tank rifles
a large quantity of small arms
1 Russian field hospital with 8 doctors
2902 soldiers were captured
During the 3rd Battle of Kharkov the Soviet losses amounted to 45,000 killed in action and around 41,000 wounded. In comparison the Germans lost 4,500 killed and about 700 wounded.
In addition, the following German equipment was retaken
Locomotives
Transport train
Communications train
Tank repair garage
German tanks
Tank destroyers
46 German, Italian and Romanian soldiers and civilians were freed by the division from Soviet captivity.
This German report includes documents supposedly captured from the field headquarters of the 4th Guard Tank Corps which had allegedly been responsible for the Grischino Massacre. That the Germans freed 46 soldiers and civilians shows that the 4th Guard Tank Corps had evidently not killed everyone. It’s also odd that this intelligence report written by those who arrived first to scene, doesn’t mention the massacre at all. I would have expected that. We’ll certainly be covering the specific war crimes in depth in future videos.
Here we see 5th PzGr Div. Wiking’s commander, Felix Steiner, awarding medals to members of the Regiment Nordland. I believe that it is the Finnish Volunteer Btl. You can see he is wearing the Order of the Cross of Liberty that is a Finnish medal that he was awarded in June of 1942.
Steiner was a capable leader who was well liked by his troops. After having the charges against him dropped at Nuremberg, in 1953 he was recruited by the CIA.
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The 5th PANZER DIVISION SENDS ITS REGARDS TO UKRAINE LOOOOOL
Felix Steiner one of the men who taught the SS how to be professional soldriers. A true warrior.
Steiner trained murderous thugs.
What has happened to Germans of today? Scholz ,Ursula ,Analena and Haeback are your biggest enemies ! Throw them out get AfD to survive ! Indian Military Veterans
Let’s appreciate the history. The SS were horrible and honorless men.
auf jedenfall !!
Nice dude super neo-nazi.
I am running out of superlatives for the work you are doing, I urge everyone to support the channel because in this way it gets better and better. Regards JohnH
It's great that Russian soldiers destroyed the Nazi army. More than 600 Nazi divisions were destroyed by Russian soldiers! German criminals fanatics of the German dictator Adolf Hitler were killed by Russian soldiers! Glory to Russia ! Shame on Germany!
@@АлександрДюпре-х7п Yes and now you are the aggressors this time. Against invisible facists. Glory to russia, glory to hypocrites!
I' m glad I found this little gem.😀
Thanks!
@@M1945 you are welcome! I' m soon researching primary sources from both sides of the conflict. Your documentaries will be a massive help. Thanks😀😀😀
The thing i like most about the footage you show here is the quality of the film itself. Most of it looks like it has never been off the shelf before and with just minor blemishes throughout. It is just so amazing to me that so much of this footage has never been used for "main stream" documentaries that have been produced in the last 80 years. Its almost like the World At War series in the early 1970s set the standard for usable and not usable footage to be shown. Thank you for breaking that mold!
Thanks Ian. It is a combination of good film footage and original material that I try to combine into interesting productions
I'm never disappointed. Thank you so much .
So glad!
The Third battle of Kharkov was a huge accomplishment considering the whole 6th army was completely destroyed in stalingrad. If the German army did not pull off this miracle the whole army group south would have been in jeopardy. Ig was because of the success of the third battle of Kharkov for the Germans. There would not have been the battle of kursk. But after the Germans lost far to many men and equipment. After kursk. It was the long retreat back to Berlin.
This is a must see! great work here .. im speachless
THANKS BROTHER, GREAT COVERAGE AND COMMENTARY. OUTSTNDING JOB.
Much appreciated Keith
@@M1945
Hi, You titled this video as if it were Part 4.
@@bethhentges thank you!
It's great that Russian soldiers destroyed the Nazi army. More than 600 Nazi divisions were destroyed by Russian soldiers! German criminals fanatics of the German dictator Adolf Hitler were killed by Russian soldiers! Glory to Russia ! Shame on Germany!
Another awesome video. Particularly love the situational maps. Still going through your website. Thanks for what you do.
Never seen a channel like this - and I subscribe to many WW2 channels! I appreciate the rare footage and objectivity. The objectivity (to the extent possible) is very good. War crimes were committed by all parties of the war. Yet, organized war crimes were committed mainly by the Germans and Russians. Still, 1.6 million German soldiers were killed in US, UK, French, Canadian, and Russian POW camps AFTER WW2 had ended! And only around 30% of the soldiers in Germany were actually NAZIs (members of the NAZI party)! But in war, propaganda is the main weapon, as we see now in Ukraine! Looking forward to seeing further material. Thank you!
Much appreciated Fred, welcome to the community. I just sent you information regarding your account and the exclusive content on Military1945.com.
Amazing archive material thanks so much
Glad you enjoyed it Ben
My wife was born and raised in Kharkov (Kharkiv). Her father was an engineer (sapper) in the Red Army and was awarded 2 "Orders of the Red Star" for his service in the second and third battle of Kharkov. For laying mines and for disabling mines. They are displayed in our home, along with my father's awards as a tank commander in the US 3rd Armored Division.
274,000 people were killed in Kharkov in WW2. There is a beautiful "Memorial of Glory" park in Kharkov in their memory. Kharkov was finally liberated on August 23, 1943 in the aftermath of the Battle of Kursk. Kharkov is near the Russian border, just south of Belgorad, Russia and Prokoravka, Russia. where the southern thrust of the battle of Kursk began.
Today, as I type this, some of our family is sheltering in the basements of their apartment building in Kharkov, and some have evacuated to the area around the city of Visokiy, SW of Kharkov, as the city is once again under attack by invading Russians.
Sad.
I would suggest the book Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder. It explains the experience of Central Europe between German and Russia. It's a very good read
@@M1945 Thank you for the suggestion.
@@M1945
If I could afford it!
Hmm, and now thousands of ukrainian refugees beg for help in germany. Why did they come if they hate us??
I love the fact that totenkopf, das reich and the leibstanderd took kharkov by disobeying orders and taking kharkov in hand to hand combat instead of cutting it off.
Great commentary & footage ! I've seen alot of B&W footage over the years and always repetitive stuff so it's great when someone uncovers 'new' stuff!
Most serious channel on you tube about this item.
Thanks Jenny
The Finnish SS Regiment Nordland was famous of never losing the battle. It was ordered to Stalingrad front by Himmler in the plan to break the encirclement and save the 6th army. Hitler, however denied the retreat and Finns were pulled back and eventually sent home to finland, where they continued to ight communists al the way to armistice, Late 1944. in big fights in Tali-Ihantala, the largest battle in scandinavia, russians were pushed back and Finland was the only country on "the losing side" tht was not invaded and remained democratic repblic. Very important for russians to remember now in 2022...
That history is absolutely interesting and important
You Goto see these ! ..Some excellent film footage..Didn't know that about Steiner after the war!
Yes, very interesting
It's great that Russian soldiers destroyed the Nazi army. More than 600 Nazi divisions were destroyed by Russian soldiers! German criminals fanatics of the German dictator Adolf Hitler were killed by Russian soldiers! Glory to Russia ! Shame on Germany!
That film from the mg bunker was astonishing, my delight was hacked away by the following footage where we saw the results of these weapons. Nonetheless an extraordinary episode.
just found your channel, superlative work, thanks.
Thanks for the sub!
Nice Video Showing Brutality of War- Weather together and Ethnic struggling through war events
Remarkable archives . Thank you for these. Indian Military Veterans .
Great video! I don't think I've heard of the Grishino massacre before. I tried looking it up, but there's not much available. Thank you for the montagsschau clip!
Magnífico canal y excelentes imágenes!!
Outstanding video and presentation.
Glad you enjoyed it
1943 and most infantry still has bolt action rifles. If in 1939 Germany had started the War with assault rifles, self propelled 88's, 1 wing of heavy bomber aircraft and 1 wing of ME 262 jet fighters....
... or an atomic bomb
Your report is very interesting. Thank you for this great channel
Thank you, make sure to see all 5 in the series
amazing as always.
Thanks again!
Very intresting, I’ve never seen before! Thank you the great work!
Many thanks!
It's great that Russian soldiers destroyed the Nazi army. More than 600 Nazi divisions were destroyed by Russian soldiers! German criminals fanatics of the German dictator Adolf Hitler were killed by Russian soldiers! Glory to Russia ! Shame on Germany!
@@АлександрДюпре-х7п and now ukrainian are killing russian nazis pro-Putin soldiers! history repeats itself.
I have two Wendetarnmützen owned by Wiking Vets. .both were Kharkov Vets, one who later was sent to Bad Tölz as an SS-Oberjunker .
Mate, I subscribe to many ww2 historical channels. Got to agree with other comments. Your channel is excellent, well researched absolutely but the footage. I've never seen any of it. Bloody well done, man.
Thanks Carl
Ahhhh the Good Old Days
Crazy how the same land is being fought over rn
Great video ..great original footage
What a great channel. Subscribed!
I look forward to each new video as I always have.. this is the best channel! Great stuff!
Glad you enjoy it!
@@M1945 if it wasn't true..I wouldn't say so.. your content is the best I've ever seen yet.. detailed.. accurate..and the reports are a WW2 history buffs dream..thanks again!
Amazing channel
WOW. !! JUST WOW !!!!
Gut deutsch gesprochen. ✌️
That’s a lot of kit captured and recaptured
NOTHING LIKE THE 81 BILLION DOLLARS LOST BY THE AMERICANS IN AFGHANISTAN.
@@joangratzer2101 ouch !😫
Do those types of reports typically contain references to information on war crimes?
I don't really know, possibly not. We are talking about a report describing the military situation. I would have preferred seeing something about it to make the puzzle fit together better.
@@M1945 I wonder if it wasn’t comparmentalized; they had specific investigations departments and war crimes units, but I agree some reference would be expected
@@didymussumydid9726 Yes the Wehrmacht Untersuchungsstelle was an organization that was responsible for doing investigations. They created a report that I would very much like to see. I have actual footage of other atrocities where similar things were done . . . I wasn't able to explain in the video how they were mutilated, some really nasty stuff
I am not suggesting that it didn't happen, simply that I would have expected some description of almost 600 people being brutally murdered. That bothers me
@@M1945 I agree it’s very strange that it is unmentioned. The eastern front war crimes are an interest of mine but I’ve only read the secondary literature and not the primary documents like this.
Look Vladimir that’s the way it’s done. What a shame that in the end quantity succeeded over quality and it were not the better soldiers who won the war.
Indeed, US backed commie scum.
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Hey M45, the thumbnail for this vid, is that 1st SS LT Paul Klose?-(Maybe spelled Klause/Klosse?)-
Hes was a jr officer with the motorized PanzerGrenadiers seen in many photos during the IIiI'rd Kharkov, wearing a VERY dirty, ratty-ass sheepskin vest. DW had footage & many still photos of him during the battle...
You clearly know better than me, nice add
@@M1945
HA!
Hint: Ohhhh, 'jus cause I was there...-Im pretty certain you were too, considering your hobby/expertise..;)
Im still bewildered to this day that that Kharkov didnt ending up looking like Stalingrad after so many hand-overs & battles?! -The TRAM lines were still serviceable & capable of operation shortly afterward Hausers/Manstein's re-capture...
This 'Erf is def one STRANGE PLACE indeedy....
The work you do from a historical perspective is invaluable Sir. Please PWR >>Shahul>>>(Shahul means: "Forward")
Ever think of doing any research on the 1994>2004/6ish Russo-Chechen/Ichkerian wars?....That one was even stranger in depth, scope & breadth than WW2!..;)
The musical Bands: "The Black Angels"
& "Lord Huron" have some interesting lyrics pertaining to those loooooooooong-ass war(s) in the Caucasus/Travels in TIME.. "ANGEL/"Black" Angel was also Chechen Ruslan-Khamzat Geleayevs personal RadioCallSign as well...;)
Ya might like em?-(music in my "Muzac" playlists;)
Enjoy your holidays M45...
Is that Donitz at 07:39 ?
I do think you are right Darryl, good eye!
the key was Ukraine population supported German troops....8,000,000 Ukrainians were starved out in 1920s & 30s.by bolsheviks..these scars are visible in 2022...
Agreed, did you see the new video? ua-cam.com/video/s-bxYP1KpvY/v-deo.html
hermoso ejercito Aleman
On this day as the Russian Army moves on Kharkov (2/24/22) this should give everyone the creeps.
The last surviving member of the Finnish Volunteer batallion died this week
Very interesting. I wonder how the government responded; anything said?
@@M1945 Nothing from the government, just a short news article in the papers. Even though most of the people view them as somewhat regular soldiers wanting to fight for Finland it's still quite controversial topic.
The field hospital and doctors destroyed!That would not have happened under Rommel,in the desert War,can see why no mercy was shown by the Soviets...
If I remember correctly, they didn't destroy it, just captured it. I might be wrong...
Of course the operations report wouldn't mention any massacre because a investigation would have to be carried out! Operations wouldn't know if they had been killed by bombing or artillery until follow up investigations
Nice document and some interesting video, but again, this has nothing to do with 3rd battle of Kharkov, or the SS Panzer Corps. Why even call your videos by that title?
Don't you mean the mean the battle of Kharkiv 2022?
@Model- Man
There are no comparison between these two battles.
So what's your point ?
25.02.2022. Kharkiv fights again...
Terrible situation
Die Angriffspläne wurden an die Russen verraten.
Straight bolt Mausers.
Don't see those much.
Your german is quite good.
Thanks Wilfried. I spent a considerable amount of time in Germany
@@M1945 Congratulation, that sounds so, really. I recognise that lot of english speaking people are interested in us fortune-less Germans in the third Reich. Although Mr. Hitler was really evil and sick, there was an order in the society. Nowadays everything seems to go out of joint. The documents and pictures are moving and less people are aware of the trouble soldiers on every side took
If you have stuff, make more videos. They are different and important for us.
@@dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 I do have more material and I will create much more. Thank you for your comments Wilfried.
@@M1945 That’s fine. It’s different to the others and you take enough time to speak and show the documents.
7:45 Which one you like?
You sound just like Mark Hamill.
Being a Star Wars fan, I'll take that as a compliment ; )
Deutschland
THIS HAS TOO HAVE BEEN HIDDEN VERY DEEPLY THANK FOR THE WORK .
I`m glad you liked it
Yeah, nice propaganda, everybody's got good winter gear. Cute German babes at the end there!
All so happy in their little uniforms and with their medals. Truth, always a bitch, they were all cannon fodder..
Do you see? How crazy men are actually capable of being? En masse?
Im with you on that Peter
like number 666... 🤙🤙🤙🤙
so how come they captured a field hospital and mark it on report as a ''capture''? wehrmacht respected the geneva convention in my knowledge
Capturing a field hospital would not be against the Geneva Convention. The way it was in the report didn't seem ominous
It's September 2022 and the Ukrainians have routed the Russians in yet another battle in Kharkiv region. :O
Bruce, Pt 16 of the Das Reich series is now up, take a look and let me know what you think ua-cam.com/video/sq3ssDfk8hM/v-deo.html
nazis have an ossession for kharkov, in those days too
Die 5 ss Division Wiking ist eine Panzerdivision und keine Grenadier aber like and abbo kriegst du
From what I understand the 5. SS was a Panzergrenadier division until October of 43, when it became a full PzD. I do make mistakes and certainly have no problem when being corrected when I make. Glad to have you aboard Henrik.
Charkov 2.0. Mr Putin s war ☝️
Now its NATO's who will have the task which the wermacht failed to do!
I don't think NATO is up to that job, nor do I think it would be a good idea to try ; )
@@M1945
Rather a dodgy situation
Goes back to ww2 arming the russians to fight germany
Then not pushing them back
After ww2
Atomic secrets given to russia by
Philby maclean Burgess
The americans shouldn't have given them to british!
Ну да я не знал что так быстро сделали фильм как фирер путлер напал на Харьков …. Слава Украине ✌️🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
M43 caps
Amazing The Soviets destroyed 80% of the German armies
Maybe Amazing. But it has not brought us peace in Europe to this day. Russia is still a dangerous corrupt dictatorship. The Americans would have helped Germany better against Russia. Even if they end the dictatorship in Ge
rmany after this, too.
@@DG-MT-STN- Thats true, we bomb we lied we cheated we killed, yes your right NATO/US did not bring peace.
what they gave us is MASS PSYCHOSIS..........
Keeping peace is harder than killing and destruction! Jesus is the way!
@Stefan Frank
Orthodoxy is still standing proud in Russia, while catholicism and protestantism in the western world are slowly dying.... atheism is at its prime there, so what the hell are you talking about ?
Peace is a lie, there is only statu quo OR war. Only sometimes there is true cooperation and dialogue for a common goal, but it never lasts.
Stop your subhuman thinking. God has been dead for more then 200 years now, to keep that belief standing, is to be only drove by ignorance more then anything else.
Im not saying atheism is better but at least you can build an opinion base on facts alone and not archaic beliefs.
@@darksidedelta We'll see after death. Jesus is fact, as he lived.
@@stefanfrank4043
Threats of "afterlife" is all your mind can think of..
Pitiful, what a waste good genes.
I do not hate Jesus but those who speaks (in) his in name 2000 years after.
And those who disregard well established reality over a man who knew nothing of are physical reality back then.
You should understand that the realm of jugement is not after death as you might think; But to the generations that "succeed" after another and who learns from past events.
Creepling reality behind fallen gods and false realms where you can crawl back to your ego is weak minded, it's your choice, either you decide to nullify reality just for confort.
OR
Fall and rise back, that's was mistakes and learning are; Movements of thoughts that allow you to grow: to comprehend and doubt on our current understanding of reality.
Doubt is not a weakness, it doesn't restrain you from learning, falls gods on the other "hand" does.
Sure. Yep, Good ol Jesus...
fairy tales
Will Kharkov fall a 2nd time but this time to the Russians for the battle of Ukraine 2022? The Russians want to liberate Kharkov a 2nd time. Nothing wrong with that me thinks.
Liberate it from the Ukrainians?
@@M1945 Yes
@@emtee9049 Certainly the can conquer it, but then what to do with the majority Ukrainian population who won't accept domination
@@M1945 Idk, either make them obedient or replace them with Russians.
@@M1945 They will probably have to do the same thing they did with Chechnians and give them some kind of autonomy but under Russian rule.
Hail the Division Viking!