How to aerate and seed tall fescue grass turf basic 101
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- How to aerate and seed basic 101. Tall fescue grass seed. This shows a basic aeration and seeding in tall fescue turf. Aeration and seeding should be done EVERY fall even in a near perfect lawn.
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Pete, do you cut your tall fescue low before aeration and seeding? I have tall fescue as well, however a lot of other UA-camrs say to cut your grass low before aerating/ seeding. In the past all I ever did was aerate and seed and kept it moving.." lol
kenny Tee I was going to ask the same question too! In the past, I had been told to cut short and bag it before aeration and seeding.
kenny Tee Mr. Pete answered this same question for me a couple vids back check the comments here ua-cam.com/video/Ur3pObmotaE/v-deo.html
kenny Tee of the fescue is doing well I'd take it down to 3.5.
I will take it down to about 3'-3.5' before I aerate and seed
@@GCITurf do you mow as usual during the overseed and aeration process or do you let it get a little tall until the new seedlings are established?
The best thing that I found to cover grass seed in bare spots to large areas is grass clippings.It covers nice,holds moisture,and breaks down and feeds the new grass.
Tom Reed I never thought of that, but you can bet I’ll try it! Thanks for the info!
Unlike straw you know whats in it.The trick is you have to use fresh clippings and put it down right away other wise they start composting and won't spread nice.
Another great video Pete have killed entire yard aerating this weekend and seeding next weekend your videos are a great help hope my lawn looks half as good as yours
brent haney question. Why are you waiting to put the seed out an entire week later???
GCI Turf Services I drive a truck for a living and only have Saturday off every week so very limited on time unfortunately as I'm sure you have the same problem
Another great video Pete! Still thinking on that question you asked me, but a point you made in the video stood out to me. You get what you pay for. More to come...
SWEET MAN, You got a ******GARDEN WEASEL****** Those work great.
Pete, A better analogy would be: would you change your oil in your car but not the oil filter? Love your channel. God bless you!
Pete knew before that race who would win. Dont think for a second he “wondered” who would win. 😂😂😂
Thanks for the info !! Hope all is well with your plugin and seeding this week
Damn you about took out your blower guy at the start of that race....LOL...looked like a close call. Just came back to watch this video for some research on yards. Thanks pete!
Pete - thank you! I've been watching lawn videos from the usual suspects for almost a year and this is the first video that I've seen that explains the Garden Weasel for seeding. Will save me a lot of time. They have a nice clone a Tractor Supply in Louisburg. I'm on it.
Great tip on the garden weasel. I am going to get one today. I always used a rake for this type work. Getting older and need to find ways to be more efficient and not spend all my time on this.
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Such a great channel. Learning a lot.
Amazing channel! Keep growing it because it seems you have a lot to teach. I have two video requests that would be great to watch. Can you do a video on the different types of plants and trees you have on your property? Also, can you do a video that shows how you keep your grass clippings out of landscaping beds after you've weed whacked and mowed? Thanks!
90 Zebra thanks for the compliment! Yes- I can do a couple vids on those things. It will be a while because we are in the busiest time of the year.
Love the video can I do thus method on dirt ??
Subscribed. you have pretty good soil to work with looking at those plugs. your content is relevant to me as I am in east TN. This looks a lot like my back yard ;) which I did my entire lawn by myself.
Matt Hartup great job! We just use a lot of Organics which transform soil over time. That's why the dirt looks like that
Great information!!!!! Great video
What about adding organic top soil after aeration and seeding? Note: soil has lots of clay content.
How do I combat my neighbors yard as it seems they have zoysia growing and I'm doing a tall turf fescue.. it seems that there's is growing into and taking over parts of my yard. What do I need to do to stop this from happening. Love the vids! Real big fan
Draw your property line in napalm
If i was just going to aerate and top dress my tall fescue no overseeding. Is bring tall fescue down to 3" to 3.5" still good height?
Is there a larger version on that garden weasle? a tow behind? My yard has alot of bare dirt id like to do all at once and work the seed into.
You absolutely nailed it pulls up plugs, and your seed falls into those holes and like tall fescue always does it grows up in ugly clumps. It's not a spreading grass. Unfortunate to live in the transition zone and I do also.
Pete, do you think weeds can be spread from a mower deck (or any turf equipment) used on a weedy lawn then used on a "good" lawn?
Gci turf uncle Pete , Do you go out on all your jobs? If so that's awesome!!!!
Grassology4610 i see the majority of them thought the course of the year
Some great Fescue growing weather we had today!!
Stephen Mast absolutely!!! Still raining at my house!
GCI Turf Services it just stopped for the most part here in Kville. Measured 2" total for the day, so far....
Stephen Mast it rained a little too hard here in Charlotte NC. I overseeded last week and still have a ton of un germinated seed that I think washed away. But I was happy to see some germination after 5 days!
Mast?! What are you doing on here man? Didn't know you were turf head too. You have come to the right place. Pete is a wizard!
CD Andrews hey man! Yeah I got bit by the bug last fall and found myself a new hobby / obsession.. lol. I love watching Prof. Pete!
Good video Pete. Spread that knowledge brotha. I do have one question. When you have very well established turf like ours, what's the best way to get the seed DOWN to the soil for good contact? Water in?
Michael Wassenaar hope and pray 1 seed falls in each of the plug holes in the yard. Or a real hard rain to beat it in to the ground
GCI Turf Services dang, I may just keep my slit seeder rental date to make sure it gets down there.
Michael Wassenaar maybe your slit seeder is different than mine. If I were to slit seed that yard I'd be there for hours cleaning up all the grass that's pulled up from the blades.
GCI Turf Services welp that just made up my mind. I'll be using my earthway and hoping for the best.
Michael Wassenaar I have never used a slit seeder on any lawn in that good of a condition. We use slit seeder on mostly bare dirt or very thin turf
I'm doing my own renovation this year in order to get rid of the Bermuda in my yard. I've heard you say you don't like straw due to the unknown, and I agree. So what's your suggestion on how to get good soil to seed contact? I don't have access to an area-vator and I have a garden weasel but doing a large area is cumbersome. Any other suggestions? Thanks! Great videos by the way!
jtyguess yeah. Can you rent a slit seeder? The work great in bare dirt application
GCI Turf Services I can rent a slit seeder, I didn't even think of that to be honest. Thanks for the advice!
jtyguess 👍🏻 got a vid coming soon on slit seeding
GCI Turf Services took your advice and called around about renting a slit seeder. All the companies I talked did not have one but had an overseeder. The way they described it sounded similar. What's the difference or are they the same machine?
jtyguess man there's many different options on slit seeders. As long as it has blades on it and cuts grooves in the ground you're good
It's like smoking a cigar without lighting it. Like a peanut butter jelly sandwich without jelly. It's like chili beans without chili. It's like taking a shower without soap.
Great content as always. There is a great deal on Falcon IV turf type tall fescue at my local nursery in Maryland. What is your take on this brand, and is there any difference between Falcon IV and Falcon V?
Ousama Abdu should not be much difference at all. Just a newer variety. I have falcon lV in my yard as well
Ousama Abdu what's the name of the nursery?
americantroy77
What's up man. It is a nursery in Hyattsville, MD. The info they have me was for a 25 lb bag, not 50 lb. So the deal wasnt even worth it at all.
What are your thoughts on dwarf tall fescue? I am using Southern States Premium Tall Fescue, which is a dwarf variety. Love the dark green and slow growing but having a hard time finding out best care techniques unique to dwarf TTTF.
William Ellis I love dwarf varieties. Have used them a lot. We feed them no different than tall fescues.
Zplug put the gap on the ex mark!! After the seeding what are you feeding it?
like the information on seeding but all the racing makes the video better..
Powerbypoole this yard got some 16-4-8 along with some 9-22-22.
Good stuff!
Great video thanks for uploading it.
I know you said tall fescue needs to be tall, but what is the shortest I should cut it for overseeding to help the seed reach the soil?
Can you aerate St. Augustine grass? If so, how can you seed it? Or do I just put down fertilizer instead? Please help! 😊
I cut my turf at 5 inches At what height should i mow my lawn before i aerate and over seed
Pete I need your seed in Charlotte next year! So hard to find quality seed here. I've been going to a place called STI and getting stuff called Winning Colors Blend by Lebanon Turf. The blend is Davinci Tall Fescue, van Go Gh Tall Fescue, Monet Tall Fescue, and Leonardo Tall Fescue. Not sure if you ever heard of these different type of fescues, I know there's a million kind. I was happy with the results after last year. But I need your stuff!
Dblood85 next year it will be available to anyone who wants it. I saw that exact seed today. I looked at the seed tag and it has .03% weed seed. Does your seed tag say that?
GCI Turf Services mine says 0.00% weed seed. I made sure of that! It does say 2% other crop seeds.
Dblood85 ok. Yeah. I thought it had a small % of something else in it. It's a great blend though.
What if you throw bags of ice all across your grass early in the morning before the intense sun hit your turf. Would that help the grass or would that stress the grass?
Slow feller aint cha
With 2.5 acres of lawn I really need to be selective about when I overseed. Especially when rain isnt too consistent in the forecast.
Any experience with the homeowner pluggers that pull behind a mower that you add weights too. My neighbor has one and will let me borrow it as needed. I believe the tines are farther apart so many passes would need to be made to get the quantity. Also not sure yet how deep of a core these types can pull.
Jeremy Glastetter no experience with them but, I don't see where it wouldn't work. Just ride over your lawn several times to get more holes. I think you're fine
Do you know what brand the of aerator your neighbor has? I have a commercial Classen aerator and a John Deere tow behind aerator. The commercial aerator will get the plugs a little deeper and is better in tight areas. With the tow behind aerator the plugs are usually 1.5 to 2.25 in depending on soil conditions and also the way the turf was graded. With the Classen 2.5 to 3 in. However with the tow behind aerator the job is much easier because the tractor does all of the work, so it is no issue doing 2 to 3 passes. And it is minimum $70 to rent an aerator. If you can use your neighbors aerator think you will be fine.
Ousama Abdu The label on it says it's a Brinkly brand, Pro 150 series. The tines look to be half circles and are 6 inches apart, 30 inches across. Says a max of 150lbs. on the weight tray.
I just saw the Brinkley aerator online. Looks to be decent quality. Most cinder blocks weigh around 35 lbs, so you can fit four on there. I think it will do the trick. Since you have anytime use of the aerator, try it out first and see how you like it. Do 2 to 3 passes, measure the cores and let us know how deep they were in inches. If the ground is somewhat moist there plugs will be deeper, and is the yard is on a decent grade that will also help for deeper cores. You can always rent an aerator afterwards if the tow behind aerator did not suit what your expectations were, as aerating the yard 2x times is only beneficial for the lawn. So absolutely no drawbacks to use the tow behind aerator .
can you aerate multiple times of your lawn? besides spring time and fall?
Hey Pete, do you put cool season grass seed down as dense on bare spots as you did with the Tall Fescue, or just a little lighter? Thank you in advance.
How short do you cut when over seeding Tall Fescue? You Cool season guide is missing this information.
Should I top dress before or after aeration and top seeding. And what about adding earthworms?
Hey pete, i cut my grass at 4.5 inches all year long. What is a good height to when i aerate and seed..
What is your favorite fescue? What do u know about titan rx?
Pete, how many holes per sq ft do you try to get when you aerate before seeding? I seen one site said 30 holes per sq ft. Which seems very high. I would think 10-12 is more realistic. Thank you, JohnG
Hey Pete, are you guys doing liquid fertilizer to feed existing turf this time of year or granular?
Greg Slabaugh mostly granular with the seeding process.
If I re seed in mid Sept. when should I put down a pre emergent weed control.
I live in Maryland, near Wash DC
How many pounds per 1k square feet on a yard I just killed. I killed everything and starting fresh. Never been done in 15 years. I want Tall Fescue and KBG mix. Total 22k square feet full sun!
id disagree on as a must have being seeded every year, a healthy lawn with constantly fill in any bare areas, only time thats its a must seed is when your having problem areas or are trying to smother out other grasses, imo.
for turf type tall fescue have you used rtf tttf? its the only one i know of that has a patent on it for its rhizomes. i havent seen it long term to see how much of a difference it makes but might be worth looking into?
zerocool212121 never used any rtf. Don't plan to. I've seen it in several lawns and it does not spread
Not sure what "grass" you're trying to smother out by overseeding ??? But around here you'd be dealing with Bermuda and fescue will not choke out Bermuda. Sorry
The reason we overseed a perfectly healthy lawn when we aerate is to make it even healthier by adding stronger cultivars.
yes we have different types of grasses, here its mostly kbg, fescue, rye, orchard, poa anua/tri ,sometimes (rarely) find a creeper and what ever blows in from surrounding areas.
the point i was trying to make on seeding every year is at some point it wont be doing much as there will be an equilibrium, yes when it first starts out it will be super thick but then it will die back to its natural equilibrium as there isnt any more resources for it to use, the amount of par,water,food being the main focus.
are you saying you switch seeds every year to bring in new genetics but the same type of grass or just the same one every year?
those tools are great for reseeding, boosting up the germination rate. thanks for the reply
zerocool212121 yes. We overseed fescue with fescue.
The equilibrium here is the sun and lack of irrigation making aeration and seeding a part of basic lawn care. You must deal with cooler temps.
What's your company website so I can check out your work?
no i dont have a website im just a solo guy all by word of mouth. i dont have near the same amount of equipment that you have. i did think about getting one of those aeravators but decided on just a ride on. have you tried the ryans/classen anything you like more or less than the ones you have?
yes i have to deal with much cooler temps, we actually just had another light snow in the mountains already and it seems like an early year. it not uncommon to have snow here in 5-6 weeks. its been in the 90s still but it can easily drop 40/50 deg if a cold front moves in.
what i was asking is if you change who makes the seed so even though its all fescue your bring in new cultivars to allow for a better genetic diversity and let the dominate one take over.
i wish we had more people like you and your other buddy on here out here because there seems to be a lot of ill informed people that dont know in depth about all of this. i was just browsing facebook and saw a friend share another company that starts aerating at $20 and fert $20. that frustrating seeing these guys kill the market with shit work, but in the end they usually call you to fix or redo what they didnt get.
zerocool212121 all I have is the 3 aeravators and 2 z plugs. Also 1 exmark stand on plugger. Billy goat reciprocating. 2 Ryan drum walk behinds. I haven't tried anything else.
Yes we add new varieties when seeding to improve the turf overall
Hope this helps
Do you offer a discount code for the seeds?
How often should I aerate my yard? I have tall fescue
Fall. Every 2 years
Hey Pete do you mow a little shorter before you aerate and seed?
J Dorris yes. Slightly Maybe .5 - 1 inch lower
GCI Turf Services thanks! I watched your test plot overseeding video and found out from it as well. Love the content Pete keep up the good work!
For that lawnin the video that you core aerated, I think the grass is already thick enough. So if you fertilize properly,that in itself will promote new growth. So why hit it with any new seed at all, even 2 lbs. is asking for trouble. Some of the problem with grass is it doesn't know when to stop multiplying. And I feel that defines your grass example.
Hey Pete, I’m wondering what is that machine that mixes the seed into the ground? Not the garden weasel but the one attached to your mower
Mark Goergens aero-vater
Excellent content! Love your channel man, I'm up here in Roanoke. What do you tell customers about watering after you aerate and seed if they do not have an irrigation system? How much and how often should they water with the new seed? Thanks man!
Mark H if they are like our non irrigated customers they won't water. Lol. I tell them as much as possible or wait on the rain
3 times a day for around 15-20 minutes for about 10 days or so
Do you have any opinions on core aeration vs spike aeration? I use a spike aerator, but we have very rocky soil that might tear up a core aerator.
HandyGuy 2016 I’m not a huge fan of the spike type aerators.
GCI Turf Services I don't have any experience with the core type, so I don't have any comparison.
HandyGuy 2016 tent one from Home Depot. They are easy to use
I have trees that show their roots, should I stay away from them with the aerator? Thinking about using jonathon green tttf to overseed, good or no?
You shouldve said its like changing the filter when you do an oil change.
Hi pete, should i throw down some starter fertilizer and milorganite when i aeration and overseed with a slice seeder?
colerain00 absolutely. Feed it!!!
@CGI Turf Services I've got a fairly new yard from construction that finished last June. I live in Hamptonville NC out in the country off well water so there is no irrigation. Ive also got about 1.5-2 acres. Kentucky 31 was planted but Id love to have that dark green. Is that possible with my situation? Do you guys provide service out this way?
Anthony A we do not come out that far. Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/RvbuLa9HYuk/v-deo.html
I've heard that core aeration is hotly debated among lawn veterans because it creates risk of dredging up viable weed seeds that will then germinate. Perhaps it is more of a northern problem, as the online communities I frequent fear that core aeration will lead to massive Poa Annua/etc. infestations. Thoughts?
My thoughts are I've been aerating/seeding lawns for 14 years now and I have yet to run into this issue. Not sure who started that talk???
Mostly on the message boards at aroundtheyard.com I'm somewhat new at growing fescue in OK, but I'm a bermuda vet. Seems like we got bit by the same fescue bug! Planning to get rid of my last bermuda and go all fescue this fall! Thanks for all the fescue tips for us transition zone folks. Fescue in OK is a challenge!
I bet!
"Well, it's in the dirt, where it belongs."
I used round up on my tall fescue...This Grass looks like Grab grass, however it is course and rough good for a cow pasture.....
Stan M what are you planting in its place?
Kentucky blue..and newer softer short Fescue
Have a 616 grasshopper
What is available for airate attachment
Are the heads on the Garden Weazel's plastic?
jim carson metal
@@GCITurf I think the new ones are plastic, I hope I am wrong but I am going to Lowes and check it out? Thanks for responding and yes I sub'd.
jim carson you’re welcome. I’ve never seen a plastic one but I could be wrong
i have a manthis and its aeretor is that good enough?
Beautiful lawn. I have Bermuda. Not by choice though.
Pete do you plug or seed first
Kevin Leese plug 1st then seed. The seed needs to get down in the holes
Better Q: Change oil but keep oil filter? (NC roundy round race neck of the oaks)
How often you read seed tall fescue
Martha Ochoa every fall. Once a year. We never miss out on such an awesome opportunity to re seed. It's the most important thing that's done in a lawn all year.
What if my tttf lawn is fairly dense and healthy already. Or put another way, can a lawn be too dense (thinking disease issues)?
Also, do you worry about watering 2x a day, or just let the rain germinate the seed?
Kevr yes. It can be to thick. But if it's dense and mature now aeration and a dusting of seed is cool. Been doing it this way 15 years 😎
Kevr I water 4 times a day 3-5 minutes per zone. Keep the top of the ground moist for fast germination
Its when changing the oil you also change the filter. That.s the right way.
Hi,
After aerating the lawn, how long do you wait to start spreading the seed/fertilizer and top soil?
Please advise.
you are supposed to seed immediately after aerating
Nice yard because the owner takes care his lawn. If your lawns 2nd best on your street, you are same as last.
What brand seed do you use?
Thomas McGrath GCI has his own seed!!!! #greatseeds
We have our seed custom blended so it really has no real "name" this video explains ua-cam.com/video/f_tygKdHbMU/v-deo.html
Thanks
GCI Turf Services That means you gotta get name for it by next year when you go live Mr. Pete. How about "GCI's Sweet Tea Mix"
americantroy77 YES!
Some people put glass jugs of water in their front yard. Its supposed to keep dogs from peeing on the grass.
I would humic acid and compost the heck out of that hot spot on top of the aeration and seeding
armando landa it’s our test plot for new products. It gets TONS of all kinds of stuff. Lol
Oh I thought it was the recently seeded yard section, my fault lol
armando landa ;My name is Armando too :)
Hey Pete can I use your grass seeds in Northeast Florida?
I cut my tall fescue at one inch and it’s awesome !
Looks like you have some dollar spot there. Do wait get it asap.
ROYAL LAWN CARE it's gone now 😎
Do you ever use Dr earth spray for grass... One guys video says he just only uses seaweed spray that's it
Is this even possible with 5acres and no irrigation? TN Heat is brutal with no trees.
Absolutely. But it would take a alot of work on your part and would be rather expensive with 5 acres. Would it be worth it to treat just 1 acre right around the house? Or would that look too funny?
GCI Turf Services it would Definitely look funny considering I mow all 5 acres
Yeah I was afraid you were gonna say that. It can be done but it would be expensive to treat that large of an area
GCI Turf Services what is the best way to keep it alive besides bringing in sprinklers and 800ft of hose. Most people tell me is a lost cause and get Bermuda grass. I hate that grass though.
A very strong lawn care program. Proper mowing.. And a little luck from mother nature www.gciturfacademy.com/product/49-year-membership/
2:10 a good example Would you shower without using soap.
All I need is a little lawn aerator racing and I'm aight
I thought the thumbnail was dog shit 😂
I would even through some Probiotic down
Here I wuz thinking that I was the only one that still had and used the weasel.
Dang.. I just hired a guy that aerated and put down kentucky 31 fescue.. I kept asking what seeds he was going to use but he kept saying only the best kind of seed....yea okay for your wallet . I guess ill just over seed the kentucky 31 once it sprouts with better turf type fescue in spring...
DJ BOLD I would t seed in the spring. Pre emergents should go down then
GCI Turf Services so just live with the kentucky 31 until next fall . Then overseed with better seeds?
DJ BOLD correct. How many square ft is your lawn?
GCI Turf Services 800sqft
DJ BOLD if that were my yard. I'd love with the KY one more year. Early August next year I would round up the yard and renovate it. Start over with a high quality dark green seed. As small as your lawn is it would be simple. Where do you live?
Those spots look like damage from brown patch
Matt Hartup no. Not brown patch. This yard is on our fungicide program. They were spots of dallisgrass that the client took it upon himself to round up.
GCI- I know you mentioned the fungicide you use on another video, can't recall. But do you rotate fungicides through the year so there's less resistance build up?
Kevr yes. We do rotate
Mower blades need to be sharpened
It looks like your blades are in need of sharpening.
sausagefingers666 more than likely they do. I'm incredibly busy with seeding right now and haven't had time to get that done. Thanks for the reminder! I'll do it tonight.
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Waste of time watching this.