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    00:00 Intro - Analyzing Michael Fassbender's German Language Skills in Inglourious Basterds
    01:52 German Perspective: Linguistic Breakdown of Fassbender's Accent in Inglourious Basterds
    09:04 Decoding the Inglourious Basterds' Finger Counting Scene: A German Viewpoint
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  • @Jifty
    @Jifty 8 місяців тому +301

    I lived in Germany when I was a teenager. Years later I saw this and as soon as he held up those three fingers...well, the whole theater heard me moan in despair. LOL

  • @bobbitchin781
    @bobbitchin781 8 місяців тому +193

    Micheal Fassbender was born in Heidelberg, West Germany. He’s lived off and on in Germany his whole life. He knows how to speak proper German. He also knows how not to speak proper German.

    • @janjanl1812
      @janjanl1812 8 місяців тому +25

      Yup, makes me appreciate what an awesome actor he is to play this English spy pretending to be German so well. We non-native speakers can’t tell the difference, but Fassbender and Quentin made sure that the scene felt so authentic to Germans. That’s dedication.

    • @dernvader6876
      @dernvader6876 8 місяців тому +2

      @@janjanl1812 Accept that... The SS Major - SS-Sturmbannführer is wearing a uniform that was not used after 1938... After 1938 this ceased to be a working dress and was replaced by a grey version with a sleeve eagle badge instead of the armband. The black uniform was only worn in Germany up until 1938... so shame on QT... shame... not so "authentic" as one might think...

    • @TheMaestroso
      @TheMaestroso 8 місяців тому

      They were talking about the acting, you dingus@@dernvader6876

    • @zombiesingularity
      @zombiesingularity 8 місяців тому +17

      @@dernvader6876 The movie is clearly set in a slightly alternate universe, however.

    • @alek2913
      @alek2913 8 місяців тому +4

      @@dernvader6876 It seems he went with aesthetic over historical accuracy.

  • @RandomStuff-he7lu
    @RandomStuff-he7lu 8 місяців тому +52

    Michael Fassbender a German born, Irish raised actor playing an Englishman pretending to be German. He did grow up speaking both German and English but admits that due to growing up in Ireland he didn't obtain a German accent. For the movie he had to have coaching to get a better German accent but it's not supposed to be perfect as he is playing someone pretending to be German.

  • @procrastinator99
    @procrastinator99 8 місяців тому +77

    What's really cool is, the slightly off accent was actually commented on, consistently, throughout the previous scene. Telling the audience that, he may be "passing" as native, but only *JUST*, making his later mistake an established potential outcome. Brilliant writing.

  • @jeroenmeuleman8110
    @jeroenmeuleman8110 8 місяців тому +30

    This is one of my favourite movies ever and this scene is a big part of it. I'm an L2 speaker of German. I recall watching it with my best friend, and as the actual SS officer joins the spies' table and they begin talking, I said to my friend: "You know, Fassbender's German is really, really good but any native would find something slightly off with his accent. But to most audiences world-wide, that doesn't matter." And a SECOND later, the SS officer begins interrogating Hicox about his odd accent. This attention to detail and making it plot-relevant as well alone puts Tarantino into the stratosphere of all time great movie directors.

  • @obenohnebohne
    @obenohnebohne 8 місяців тому +71

    This scene is a masterclass in writing (and acting). So satisfying to watch.

    • @dernvader6876
      @dernvader6876 8 місяців тому

      and yet... The SS-Sturmbannführer is wearing a black uniform with an armband that was not used after 1938... After 1938 this ceased to be a working dress and was replaced by a grey version with a sleeve eagle badge instead of the armband. The black uniform was only worn in Germany up until 1938... so shame on QT... shame...

    • @obenohnebohne
      @obenohnebohne 8 місяців тому +4

      @@dernvader6876 Well, I guess the movie is ruined then.

    • @Standgedicht
      @Standgedicht 7 місяців тому

      It was particularly good for Till Schweiger. He was able to observe up close how real actors, like August Diehl, work.
      But here you can also see Tarantino's genius. He cast Till Schweiger in such a way that he didn't have to talk much. Or acting...

    • @bm-br3go
      @bm-br3go 2 місяці тому

      @@dernvader6876 If that historical inaccuracy bothers you, just wait until you get to the end of the movie.

    • @dernvader6876
      @dernvader6876 2 місяці тому

      @@obenohnebohne yes, it is.

  • @zbennalley
    @zbennalley 8 місяців тому +17

    I'm from Dallas and I knew the moment he blew his cover based on our German born NBA player Dirk Nowitzki always signing his three pointers with the same thumb first finger counting!! I felt so smart watching this on opening night in a theater. Knowing the crowd is going to catch up later.
    This film is so much more important about languages, and knowledge about others might save or end your life.

  • @Activated_Complex
    @Activated_Complex 8 місяців тому +18

    I love that Hellstrom's choice of Scotch implies that he already had Archie figured for a Britsh agent, and perhaps specifically a Scotsman. While Fassbender is of Irish and German ancestry, the character he portrays here evokes a young James Bond as played by Sean Connery. Even down to carrying 007's preferred armament of a Walther PPK. My take on his response to Archie's gaffe counting without using his thumb is, this told Hellstrom nothing new about the man sitting across from him, but rather confirmed his suspicions that the others at the table were his co-conspirators. At that moment, he realizes that he is badly ounumbered at the table, if not in the bar, but decides to force a confrontation all the same.

    • @bassplayer2011ify
      @bassplayer2011ify 4 місяці тому

      Connery was 32 when they were filming Doctor No so the 30 year old scotch fits as well. There are 32 year old scotches out there but they aren't as common as 30. Normally I would call this a coincidence but Tarantino doesn't do coincidences.
      Another example of this is Landa’s pipe being the exact same Meerschaum Pipe that Shurlock Holmes used. Not only is it a reference but it also tells the audience that Landa is very intelligent and very good at reading people.

  • @captaindestruction9332
    @captaindestruction9332 8 місяців тому +30

    I love how you throw in the German words for things like smiling or body language etc. Its extra knowledge and the ability be exposed to more German. German is definitely on the list of languages to learn and videos like this make me want to learn it more.

    • @dernvader6876
      @dernvader6876 8 місяців тому +1

      Chidren from age 3-11 can learn up to 7 languages - just from being exposed to the language... so trying to teach teenagers in high school is pointless and ,,, just stupid...

  • @michaelvandeginste3497
    @michaelvandeginste3497 8 місяців тому +23

    If you look at Hicox's face, even he knows that he screwed up. Also, some viewers theorize that Hellstrom was never fooled from the start. After hearing your detailed explanations on how is spoken German is consistently a little off, I'd have to agree.
    Hellstrom gets upset, however, because he realizes that everybody saw him notice the mistake and now he has to act.

    • @SpaghettiYOLOKing
      @SpaghettiYOLOKing 7 місяців тому +3

      I agree with your observation. Their entire conversation before the botched hand gesture, I viewed it as Hellstrom picking up on the little derails in Hicox's speech and focuses on him. Engages him in casual talk, poking him verbally to try and get him speak more. He notices the little details every single time, so just gradually turns the pressure up on him until his 'joke', which he deadpans for a few moments just to make Hicox sweat.
      Basically kept turning up the heat on him until he did or said something that confirmed what he was suspecting.
      I just absolutely love this scene. In terms of building tension, this scene and the opening scene are my favorites from this film.

  • @SaniSensei
    @SaniSensei 8 місяців тому +18

    I'm German, and when I watch that movie and saw that scene, I noticed it the incorrect three fingers, but didn't even take into consideration that it was intentional (intentionally put in the script), but simply chucked up on Americans getting stuff wrong. I was surprised that it wasn't a mistake after all when it was revealed later.

    • @renshiwu305
      @renshiwu305 8 місяців тому +5

      Americans get a lot of foreign cultural conventions wrong in films and TV programs, but, occasionally, the errors go the other way. For example, there was an Icelandic crime drama that features an American "aluminium" plant onsite in Iceland. However, Americans spell the element as a-lu-mi-num, with one less letter/syllable than presented. Also, there was a British crime drama with a US Air Force serviceman who mentioned a "Denver Omelette" and the scriptwriters seemed confused about what a Denver Omelette actually constitutes, thinking it was a type of omelette-sandwich concoction. No, a Denver Omelette is simply a type of omelette distinguished by the inclusion of green peppers. Tolstoy himself got the English idiom "skeletons in the closet" wrong, in _Anna Karenina._

    • @MonstrousViLLain
      @MonstrousViLLain 8 місяців тому +1

      187 Strassenbande

    • @Anthony-dy5cq
      @Anthony-dy5cq 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, your assessment was just usual European arrogance.

    • @garycollins7750
      @garycollins7750 8 місяців тому +8

      Why? It was obviously scripted, the shot even lingers emphasizing the fingers when the other officer stares.

    • @janjanl1812
      @janjanl1812 8 місяців тому +2

      Quentin is no typical hollywood

  • @foodank_atr817
    @foodank_atr817 8 місяців тому +8

    This shows Tarantino's skill as a writer and director, you don't even have to know the difference between German and US 3 hand gestures to know something is wrong in that moment.

  • @douglasiles2024
    @douglasiles2024 8 місяців тому +8

    Hellstrom also noticing Hicox's accent being peculiar fits with him being a Major in the Gestapo, as counterintelligence would be part of his job.

  • @ethanc7659
    @ethanc7659 8 місяців тому +51

    As someone learning German, I find these videos really entertaining! Thank you for the content

  • @jaycee330
    @jaycee330 8 місяців тому +39

    10:13 Actually, Americans (and Brits) would start counting with the forefinger, then middle, ring, pinky and then thumb. But your point is correct, we wouldn't start with the thumb.

    • @savhoneybadger3177
      @savhoneybadger3177 8 місяців тому +2

      Yea I always count with the index finger too

    • @Daveinitely
      @Daveinitely  8 місяців тому +5

      Okay... I see myself corrected then! I read that while preparing for the video, that's why I mentioned it. 🤔

    • @khancrow7015
      @khancrow7015 8 місяців тому

      It bothers me greatly when people start counting using their thumb first. With that said it is VERY common. Just because you are ignorant of an occurrence doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Dude said it was even how search results said we counted lol

    • @jaycee330
      @jaycee330 8 місяців тому +3

      @@khancrow7015 I have NEVER seen an American count starting with their thumb (one that was born in America). I'm sure that there are special rare Americans that do count starting on the thumb, but this is not the norm.

    • @khancrow7015
      @khancrow7015 8 місяців тому

      @jaycee330 I didnt relieaze you experienced how 350 million people count on their hands and published data. Can I get a copy of your experiment results?
      Because duckduckgos results and my experience are the total opposite of what you claim...
      Kinda weird huh??

  • @MLNeidig
    @MLNeidig 8 місяців тому +21

    I'm American and my father was in the Army. Before he was retired, he was stationed in Germany for a while. When those three fingers went up, he said he'd just blown his cover. Super cool to see him get more out of the scene than I could have because of how familiar he became with the culture.

    • @jamestiburon443
      @jamestiburon443 5 місяців тому

      That is a cool story. Kudos for your Dad for picking up on that. As a language teacher in the U.S. I showed this scene, but first asked everyone to show how they would hand signal 3 hot dogs at a baseball game. Lol.

  • @edwardshalash2607
    @edwardshalash2607 8 місяців тому +16

    I was hoping you would talk a little bit about the fact that the Major was able to nail where each of the soldiers were from down to the city.

    • @Chris.4345
      @Chris.4345 6 місяців тому

      I was hoping for that too.

  • @AkiraUema
    @AkiraUema 8 місяців тому +9

    I love how you also put the German transcription of the lines! I speak a little Dutch and it's so interesting to see the similarities.

  • @macgonzo
    @macgonzo 8 місяців тому +3

    In the subtitles, they use the word "whiskey" to describe Scotland's national drink, we use the word "whisky" instead.

  • @bioniccorndog
    @bioniccorndog 8 місяців тому +2

    Wow this is a really cool breakdown! This movie is in my top 5 of all time and it gives another layer of appreciation to know how particular they were with these little nuances. Great content!

  • @99bimmer
    @99bimmer 8 місяців тому +6

    To be fair to Fassbender, I believe the whole point was for his German to be mostly correct, yet flawed. Also, I'm pretty sure the Gestapo agent had strong suspicions about that whole table from the beginning. The sigh he gave seemed to me to be a "Shit, I have to do something, but I am greatly outnumbered and I am not gonna make it out of this alive"

    • @lamlam-bw7ev
      @lamlam-bw7ev 8 місяців тому +3

      If this happened in real life, he would have excused himself and called in reinforcements.

    • @99bimmer
      @99bimmer 8 місяців тому +2

      @@lamlam-bw7ev Yeah, true. Tactically, his decision is pretty stupid. But, he needed to do it for the plot to happen

  • @oldmanpence4803
    @oldmanpence4803 8 місяців тому +1

    Bro, I’m 100% here for this discussion, loved the video! Took 5 years of Deutsch in high school about 100 years ago and this just made me feel at home! Vielen dank!

  • @halfrightface
    @halfrightface 8 місяців тому +2

    This scene is a masterclass of screenwriting, directing, and acting.

  • @spawncampe
    @spawncampe 8 місяців тому +2

    I like how you put the more literal translations, I notice that when watching movies of my second language, if I have the subtitles on, it's usually kinda off and distracting

  • @Relgov
    @Relgov 8 місяців тому +8

    Very fun German lesson as usual. Danke Dave!

  • @lamda101
    @lamda101 8 місяців тому

    Great video, I look forward to watching more 👍🏽

  • @Daveinitely
    @Daveinitely  8 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for watching! For clarification: Michael Fassbender was born in Heidelberg, Germany, and grew up speaking English and German. Since he grew up in Ireland, he didn't adopt a typical German pronunciation. Check out my first reaction to Archie Hicox / Michael Fassbender speaking German (linguistic analysis): ua-cam.com/video/jXEe-jTpguU/v-deo.html :)
    Also thanks a lot for supporting the channel on www.patreon.com/daveinitely, being a UA-cam channel member and by using Super Thanks! It's much appreciated!

    • @janetd5317
      @janetd5317 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the info. I adore Micheal Fassbender - what an actor. He can go from being the nicest person to an absolutely scary person in seconds. I worked in Germany many years ago at a Nato garrison. Beautiful country. Unfortunately never mastered the language. Cheers !

  • @Error_404_Account_Deleted
    @Error_404_Account_Deleted 8 місяців тому +2

    These are immensely helpful and enjoyable videos. Thanks! I had hit a wall with my German and this is refreshing.

  • @Nickel138
    @Nickel138 8 місяців тому

    This was amazing. Very impressive. Subscribed.

  • @Igor-KB
    @Igor-KB 7 місяців тому

    Dude you have made me interested in learning German again, i really hope i dont stop this time, this is such a great language, cheers from Brazil!

    • @Daveinitely
      @Daveinitely  7 місяців тому

      Awesome! I'm not planning to stop, don't worry. :) You can find over 700 videos about the German language and culture here, enjoy! 😊

  • @GenX1964
    @GenX1964 8 місяців тому +1

    10:20 I love that scene too. The Gestapo looks and then the no-look is so cold 🥶.

  • @MartinBeerbom
    @MartinBeerbom Місяць тому

    I was most impressed with the game players using the character of "Winnetou", which is extremely well-known in Germany, but completely unknown in the USA. So an American writing a movie and using THAT character means he really did his research.

  • @jan_raynor_sereda
    @jan_raynor_sereda 2 місяці тому

    Nice Video,
    I've been Taught German waaaay too long ago back in Elementary school (so almost 15 years ago) but we have been taught that "Frau" has been more often used specifically to describe a Wife rather than a Miss or a Lady which would be in this scene.
    But hey I have never been taught by German speaker ... only by Czech Teacher who has learnt German sooo yeah :D ... once again nice video :D

  • @sologamer3122
    @sologamer3122 8 місяців тому +4

    The only thing I can say for certain that is wrong in this video is that I have NEVER seen someone in 27 years of living in the USA is someone starting to count with their pinky. It's either the Thumb or forefinger. ALWAYS. Other than that this video is great! Typically the thumb has only been used to start when listing examples of something and not counting per se but that example is also only occasional.

  • @meeeka
    @meeeka 4 місяці тому

    Fassbender was born in Heidelberg and South-west Ireland & grew up there.

  • @scp170190
    @scp170190 Місяць тому

    I find these kind of videos very interesting. I could also tell if someone was speaking with a native Scottish accent or not because it's all about the tiny idiosyncrasies we use.

  • @janetd5317
    @janetd5317 8 місяців тому

    Great video, thank you

  • @Leapyearproject
    @Leapyearproject Місяць тому

    I regret only subscribing to your channel recently. I am a fan of the German language and I particularly enjoy this video. Could you provide more video analyses of movies that feature the German language?

    • @Daveinitely
      @Daveinitely  Місяць тому

      Thank you and welcome! :) Highly appreciate that. There will be more to come. Stay tuned! :)

  • @imthetube44
    @imthetube44 8 місяців тому +5

    I was curious about your interpretation of the initial interrogation when Hellstrom gets out of his chair to talk to Hilcox. Hilcox justifies the accent by saying that he is from the mountain, Piz Palu. Looking it up, it's an area near Switzerland. As a native speaker would that give credence to his accent or lack thereof?

    • @gabrieledupres
      @gabrieledupres 8 місяців тому +1

      Even if you didn't know about how swiss german ( Schwizerdütsch ) sounded, it would be more than a coincidence if it sounded so much like a british accent.

    • @imthetube44
      @imthetube44 8 місяців тому

      @@gabrieledupres good point.

  • @deborahchard9274
    @deborahchard9274 8 місяців тому

    I love these ❤!

  • @freddelgado
    @freddelgado 7 місяців тому

    I'm not even a german speaker but I'd always want to know the subtleties of the accents in that scene. That's why I've watched this and the preview one video.
    Thanks for that.

  • @Loroths
    @Loroths 3 місяці тому

    I think Fassbender is playing 4D chess here. Check it out: not only is this an Irish man playing an Englishman from the 1940s and has to factor that accent, playing a German officer...BUT on top of that seeing as we, the audience, know of his character's true identity, he is trying to fool the other guy into thinking he is German - yes, but I posit he is DELIBERATELY leaving that "English" in his voice for our benefit. Just let that sink in. The vocal acting needed for that. The man is messing with our minds.🎉

  • @Sheeit
    @Sheeit 8 місяців тому

    I can totally related to specific slang words wether they be related to a class of person, a region, or an ethnicity sounding super cool in English too.

  • @greg.peepeeface
    @greg.peepeeface 8 місяців тому +2

    West coast American here, andI love your videos even though this is only the second video I have watched. I just wanted to point out from my regional experience at 10:00 as a burger eating Murican, we start counting with our index or foreginger. I don't know of anyone who starts with a pinky, although I do not speak for all of Big Gulp land.

    • @sologamer3122
      @sologamer3122 8 місяців тому

      Nah ive traveled across the states and in 27 years I have NEVER seen someone not start with the forefinger or in rare occasions the thumb (if listing an example of something). Never seen the pinking used to start. Not once haha. Southern born here, but I have been to northern Cali to see the redwoods and lived in southern Oregon for a time.

  • @westywest4480
    @westywest4480 7 місяців тому

    The amount of accents and pronunciation with in the English language is staggering. I'm from northern New England but don't have the typical New England accents from Massachusetts. People have asked if I'm from Canada.

  • @threeminuteshate
    @threeminuteshate 7 місяців тому

    I visited Austria last summer and when our guide held up a “German” three, I instantly perked up with glee.

  • @westonbeats
    @westonbeats 8 місяців тому

    great video

  • @Sarrge1
    @Sarrge1 22 дні тому

    I want to speak German like you. I will be pleased if you make videos in which you teach German speaking.

  • @MadlyParrot5345
    @MadlyParrot5345 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m confused about why he counted with his fingers that way because even in the UK people start with their thumb to count.

  • @jonpaulevans31
    @jonpaulevans31 8 місяців тому +1

    I noticed something for the first time during a recent rewatch, which contrasts well with this scene; When Shosanna ends up at lunch with Landa, among others, he asks for 2 strudels and casually gestures. As a native German, his inclination should've been thumb/index finger, but he does index/middle finger. Given how meticulous the entire flick is, it can't be coincidental.

  • @graniteman62
    @graniteman62 8 місяців тому

    Dave, as a cdn who understands no German great to see ur vlog on this great movie and break down German accents, when I watched this movie I could notice the German spoken from Fassbender compared to the other German speakers as different, I'm no expert so I thought natural German speakers would find his accent different if not foreign, kinda like if u watched a movie with British English then cdn English, can understand but totally different, I've read in history that allied spies had to have native accents so not to be detected, this movie shows that they would have gotten away with their scheme of not for the unforseen German nco celebration there and the ss major, maybe the other allied speaking officers should have taken on the speaking instead of the UK German speaker leader, but didn't happen eh, makes great cinema, great job

  • @keenanlarsen1639
    @keenanlarsen1639 8 місяців тому +4

    I've lived in the States my entire life and I've never counted starting with my pinky. And I don't recall ever seeing that from anyone else. I guess my personal habit is to go 1-4 on the fingers, starting with the first finger, and 5 is on the thumb. Maybe that's strange but it's how I've always done it.

    • @jollygoodfellow3957
      @jollygoodfellow3957 8 місяців тому

      He must have gotten the idea by mistake as I always count from the index finger as an American.

    • @Gr13fM4ch1n3
      @Gr13fM4ch1n3 8 місяців тому

      Yeah Americans count starting with the index. Not sure which country starts with the pinky.

    • @briancrawford8751
      @briancrawford8751 8 місяців тому

      I think you missed the point. He was saying that Germans start counting with the thumb, not the pinky.

  • @DAviation179
    @DAviation179 8 місяців тому

    Best bit was missing when he goes from German to English.
    "Well if this is it old boy, I hope you don't mind me going out speaking the Kings".

  • @tommyt4259
    @tommyt4259 8 місяців тому +1

    I dont know if its just me but if i was counting from one up then id start with my thumb.
    But if showing three then id use middle three fingers

  • @1FokkerAce
    @1FokkerAce 8 місяців тому

    “Well, if this is it old boy, I hope you don’t mind if I go out speaking the King’s.”

  • @NorkelFjols
    @NorkelFjols 8 місяців тому +1

    When I saw this movie (as a non-German) I remember wondering if Tarantino was making too big of a deal about the "three" for dramatic effect. That it wouldn't be that big of a give-away in real life. But I guess not.

  • @najtrows
    @najtrows 7 місяців тому

    As a Swede, I have no idea if we count in a certain way with our hands lol. Good video!

  • @SmartDave60
    @SmartDave60 8 місяців тому

    Very British way to go out ..
    "Well, if this is it, old boy, I hope you don't mind if I go out speaking the King's."

  • @coachgman
    @coachgman 8 місяців тому +1

    I lived in Rheinland-Pfalz for eight years. Although I took German all four years of high school, I still struggled with their dialect. They even said that when they go elsewhere in Germany, the other Germans think they're French haha.
    Anyway, I have a friend that lived in Berlin and speaks fluent German, and for "goodbye" he will use "wir sehen uns" or sometimes, "machts gut!" See you soon or take care.

  • @maarkaus48
    @maarkaus48 8 місяців тому +1

    My family is Danish, but I was raised in Canada. I always count with my thumb first. But if I hold up a number of fingers its not with the thumb (unless its 5).
    I wonder how a Dane would do it. My parents always counted with their thumbs first.
    Interesting little traits we pick up.

    • @MaMastoast
      @MaMastoast 8 місяців тому +1

      I can help you with that. I'd always start with the thumb when counting.. Infact counting probably wouldnt involve putting up the rest of the fingers for most of the process, it'd go something like;
      1. thumb up
      2. index finger up , curved towards the thumb or meeting the thumb at the tip
      3. middle finger tip to thumb
      4. ring finger to thumb with the pinky floating by itself
      5. pinky to thumb or displaying the whole hand
      In cases where I wanna make a point Id by putting up the fingers rather than resting them on the thumb end up displaying all 5 fingers fully... All of which would still involve facing the back of my hand towards to other person rather than the palm
      As for holding up 3 fingers. .I thiiink Id almost always use the thumb as well. There may be a few instances where the 3 center fingers would be used, if I were to hold up 3 fingers towards someone far away or something.. But just sitting here doing the gesture, it feels incredibly awkward and stiff, so I can tell I haven't been doing it a lot :P
      I guess north americans must have a much looser tendons connecting the ring finger and pinky for it to feel natural.

  • @Pete_Finch
    @Pete_Finch 8 місяців тому

    It's fascinating how attuned our ears are to our native tongues - I'm from just outside of New York City, and though I don't have a thick "traditional" NY accent myself, I can almost always tell when an actor isn't from here and has learned the accent. I can even tell the difference between a Brooklyn and Queens accent even though I'm not from either area, it's wild. Also, I've always started counting on my fingers with the thumb despite having pretty significant English heritage so I instantly found that odd

  • @AlexMartinez-vc5rl
    @AlexMartinez-vc5rl 7 місяців тому

    Wow your analysis shows how genius Tarantino really is!

  • @thefabfabs
    @thefabfabs 8 місяців тому +1

    Not just in Germany but I believe in Europe in general they start to count with the thumbs. I'm South American so for me it's with the index finger but an Italian friend once told me that in Italy they also start to count with the thumbs

  • @richardsanchez5444
    @richardsanchez5444 8 місяців тому

    4:26 what if or i should say are there people that choose to enunciate every word properly? That be wierd but not necessarily wrong, right?

  • @francobenevento7598
    @francobenevento7598 8 місяців тому +1

    This shows why Tarantino is the GOAT of directors. The subtle little points of inflection makes this scene so amazing. Fassbender did an amazing job in this role too.

  • @papa_nurgle
    @papa_nurgle 8 місяців тому

    I am not a german expert, not even liked the language, but when i first saw the movie, and he made the bold move with the finger numbers i just slapped my face and take a deep breath. Because i saw the face of the SS Officer, and knew he knew whats that. My mom asked me, whats up, and i told her. How your count the numbers on your fingers? She started how germans do, because in hungary you count the same way. Then i told her, how british does, i lived there, i knew them. And she just. Ohhhhh... It this detail poke out my eyes, how it could poke out an SS Officer's eyes. XD

  • @crispygift
    @crispygift 4 місяці тому

    I always found that reveal- scene so odd cause I don't know what fingers people use to show numbers in my country? XD We talked about this with my friends and we all use different fingers and don't really pay attention to it.

  • @CaptainGrimes1
    @CaptainGrimes1 8 місяців тому

    Can you do some scenes from Der Untergang?

  • @wickets
    @wickets 8 місяців тому

    Normalerweise sehe ich YT Videos dieser Art über Englisch an, aber es ist schön zu sehen, das es sowas auch für Fremdsprachler gibt. Man vergisst zu oft wie komplex Deutsch doch ist.

  • @dungcheeseMORK999
    @dungcheeseMORK999 8 місяців тому

    I'm from England, and I think (at least me) we use both the thumb and index finger when starting with one. I think when it comes to telling numbers with your hand we go straight with the index finger onwards.

    • @rich8436
      @rich8436 8 місяців тому

      Yer, I tend to do that too. I never really thought about it till waching this.

  • @googull4778
    @googull4778 8 місяців тому

    English is like that with “not” too. Often the T is muted unless there is emphasis. Like the tongue it forming the sound but not fully. Maybe that’s what’s going on with “night” as well.

  • @daved2352
    @daved2352 8 місяців тому

    Focussing on the "sehr gute Freunde" you can actually hear some of the characteristics of the very clipped English accent Michael is using for the characters natural speaking voice.

  • @jand.9825
    @jand.9825 7 місяців тому

    The fun is, I as a german try to count the english way with the fingers since I have seen this scene for the first time, just because it's way easier to show a 4 (because I am not able to bow the pinky without any other fingers)

  • @ColdCutz
    @ColdCutz 8 місяців тому

    I can't wait to see a breakdown of Lieutenant Aldo Raine's scene at the theater.

  • @TechieTexan
    @TechieTexan 8 місяців тому

    I studied German for a few years. My teacher was from Southern Germany. Even in this scene, I could hear his British accent, lol. When my teacher taught me, I also obtained her accent, even though I grew up in a Hispanic household. I've had actual Germans tell me my accent is perfect!!!

  • @beatdown4785
    @beatdown4785 8 місяців тому +3

    Sehr gutes Video. Du könntest auch gut zur Breaking Bad Szene von Staffel 5, in der deutsche Wissenschaftler von Madrigal Electromotive ihre Produkte vorstellen, eine Sprachanalyse machen. Meines Wissens nach wurden für diese Szene ebenfalls keine Muttersprachler eingesetzt. Das gleiche gilt für den gesamten Rest des Vorspanns.

  • @ichbinich8738
    @ichbinich8738 8 місяців тому +1

    Fassbender’s german accent here was intentional.

  • @g.w.7893
    @g.w.7893 8 місяців тому

    In NA culture, at least to my knowledge as a native, the counting usually starts with the pointing finger or index finger as it's referred to.

  • @hughmacdonald7872
    @hughmacdonald7872 8 місяців тому

    thats an awesome fact

  • @jeffreycarter8450
    @jeffreycarter8450 8 місяців тому

    I start counting with my middle finger, than index finger, then to my ring finger, pink and end with the thumb. People don't seem to respond well when I start counting with my hand. /s

  • @G35370
    @G35370 6 місяців тому

    5:36 is hilarious 😂😂

  • @RemyCT63
    @RemyCT63 8 місяців тому +2

    Question: Is the SS officer in the black uniform speaking Hoch Deutsch (High German)? Because the clarity or pronunciation of every word sounds so perfect and without any regional accent.

    • @Daveinitely
      @Daveinitely  8 місяців тому +6

      Yes. August Diehl was born in West-Berlin, so maybe he speaks a Berlin Dialekt in real life. But for this movie, he basically speaks very clear Standard German.

    • @RemyCT63
      @RemyCT63 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Daveinitely When someone speaks very clear standard German with no accent. Is this for Germans similar to what the British would call a Posh accent?

    • @anbs2476
      @anbs2476 8 місяців тому +1

      @@RemyCT63 Interesting question 🤔 I think we don't have that recognizable sort of "posh" accent. We tend to distinguish a persons language and standing in society rather by their usage of correct grammar and a diversity of vocabulary than their accent I would say.

    • @fluffydunlop5739
      @fluffydunlop5739 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RemyCT63yes

  • @vinnyc.1265
    @vinnyc.1265 8 місяців тому

    I felt like me and like two others were the only ones in the audience in the theater that audibly gasped when he held the three up. My friend next to me was like "what?". "He did 3 instead of 3" showing my hands. I learned this in school on how they caught spies, with subtle things like that. Americans aren't bright, or don't have good schooling it seems.
    Another thing Americans do (which i find funny and stupid, even if I am American). When people eat Steak in America, they cut with their dominant hand, and switch the fork to their dominant to eat it. I just cut with my dominant, eat with my off hand with the fork (left).
    Switching was another way to catch spies.

  • @nimlopatlo
    @nimlopatlo 7 місяців тому

    The fact we are discussing such the subtulties of german, makes the whole movie, a classic. We have real german speakers wnd real french. As a south asian raised in the west, i hear a lot of accents which sucks when you can tell the min they say a word, that they are not native speakers...

  • @andrewpiltenko9432
    @andrewpiltenko9432 8 місяців тому

    How about reacting to German in Band of Brothers series, specifically episode 9?

  • @michaelaldan4354
    @michaelaldan4354 7 місяців тому

    I speak dutch german english french and afrikaans...even I (as a non native) german speaker would have placed an immediate red flag over fassbender the moment he started to speak german!

  • @JCMcGee
    @JCMcGee 8 місяців тому

    Can I ask about that "Affentheatre"....you've said "Litteral translation: Monkey Theatre".....wouldn't it be "litterally" translated as "Ape-Theatre"? I'm asking because I've long been interested in the etymology of the English word "Monkey"....it's kinda unusual....it's often said to have come from German?
    Is anything like "Monkey" still used in German (Soz, I don't speak German...though actually Google Translate just said Monkey and Ape are both AFF in German???)
    Anyway...great video, thanks.

    • @greenman4946
      @greenman4946 8 місяців тому +1

      ”Affe” in German means both ape and monkey, so it could be either. It’s the same in Swedish (my native language) - ”apa”. If you really want to differentiate, I suppose you could say ”Menschenaffe” (German) or ”människoapa” (Swedish) for the great apes.

    • @JCMcGee
      @JCMcGee 8 місяців тому +1

      @@greenman4946 Cheers.
      I wonder, where did that English word Monkey come from?

    • @greenman4946
      @greenman4946 8 місяців тому

      @@JCMcGeeIt may originate in a German version of the medieval Reynard the Fox fable, published around the year 1580. In this version, a character named Moneke in the son of Martin the Ape. If this is correct, it wouldn’t be the only instance when that fable inflences actual names of animals - in French, the name of the Fox character, Renard, has completely replaced the older word for fox, which was ”goupil”.

  • @Inerrant1
    @Inerrant1 8 місяців тому

    5:50 Wait a minute... I think Dave is a spy!

  • @stevesmith9447
    @stevesmith9447 8 місяців тому

    I've asked this question about this scene before. Stiglitz says something like "Und ab die Entfernung, bin ich eine richtige Frederick Zöller... hehehe." What is the suffix he's actually using on "eine richtige?" "Einer richtiger" seems more correct, since Frederick Zöller is obviously male, but since he's using "bin," doesn't that make it nominative, therefore "ein richtig" or maybe "ein richtiger" are what I would expect..? Sorry, I'm American and I gave up on German because it wasn't rewarding enough to learn all of the inflection and declension rules... but that doesn't mean i don't sometimes have questions. I would appreciate it if you could explain!

    • @Daveinitely
      @Daveinitely  8 місяців тому +1

      "(...) und auf die Entfernung bin ich ein richtiger Frederick Zöller!" is what he says here.
      In a different word order and emphasis:
      "Und ich bin ein richtiger Frederick Zöller auf diese Entfernung!"
      ("and from this distance I'm a real Frederick Zöller")
      Since he is referring to Mister Frederick Zöller (a man) but refers to him sort of as a comparison "(...) bin ich *wie* ein Frederick Zöller" ("(...) I'm *like* a Frederick Zöller"), he's using the nominative masculine sgl inflection with "ein" (a).
      Hope this helps! :)

    • @stevesmith9447
      @stevesmith9447 8 місяців тому

      @@Daveinitely It definitely helps, I just always seem to hear an extra "e" sound after he says "ein." I think it's a natural sound when going from a vocal "n" to an "r," but it seems like native speakers tend to be more meticulous than that. Am I just hearing things?

  • @RickyBaker2000
    @RickyBaker2000 8 місяців тому

    I died at "Affentheater" 🤣🤣

  • @tjombom
    @tjombom 8 місяців тому

    I love your German!

  • @davidfrehler1299
    @davidfrehler1299 8 місяців тому

    Are you considering dialect? That is what started this conversation.

  • @steviedmrbk5179
    @steviedmrbk5179 8 місяців тому

    Hi Dave, great channel, very instructive! Your English is really good, but at 10:17 you gave yourself away by pronouncing the B at the end of thumb...👍🤗🤗

  • @SASMacDroid
    @SASMacDroid 8 місяців тому

    I thought the 3 finger part was funny because it's so true .my wife german holds up ihr Daumen,zeige Finger,und mittel finger were i hold up mein zeige finger,mittel finger,und ring finger 😂 schöne Grüße aus Paderborn

  • @richardsanchez5444
    @richardsanchez5444 8 місяців тому

    Goddamn i gotta watch this movie again.

  • @themissingpeace7956
    @themissingpeace7956 8 місяців тому

    I took 1 year of German in Middle School and the only thing I can remember is “Ich bin Kaput” 😂😂

  • @vairpalefroi
    @vairpalefroi 8 місяців тому +1

    What do you think of german spoken by Christoph Waltz then? 🙂

  • @georgeo162
    @georgeo162 8 місяців тому

    Your pronunciation of “korper…” is more open than I was taught. I’m far from fluent but have not heard it pronounced that way.

    • @Daveinitely
      @Daveinitely  8 місяців тому

      Could you tell me the timestamp please? I'm not sure what you mean exactly.

  • @phDexterable
    @phDexterable 8 місяців тому +1

    My only issue with this scene is that the hand gesture feels forced. Like it doesn't feel natural for Hicox to do it, as only just saying 'three' should be sufficient, since things are pretty quite at that moment. And he's just restating a fact that they already relayed to the bartender, having started with five that was followed up by two people withdrawing.
    Plus the bartender can't even really see his hand from that angle.

  • @Draganter1977
    @Draganter1977 7 місяців тому

    in der kellerbar szene sind ausser fassbinder und die dunkelhaarige kellnerin, alle schauspieler deutsche und östereicher
    In the cellar bar scene, apart from fassbinder and the dark-haired waitress, all the actors are german and austrian
    german greetings