Those haters are too damn lazy to work and they’d crap their pants when the first payment was due on a million dollar plus machine their parents co-signed for.
Mr. Jeff, you are part engineer, accountant, mechanic, welder, and heavy operating engineer. Not many around with your extraordinary talents, maybe one in a million.
I totally agree jeff, Gotta have a wide variety of equipment and thats whats gotten me to where im at. I like my newer stuff on machines that need to run all the time and i love the older stuff for machines you need here and there. They are paid for and its not a big deal for them to sit alot
Great job ,,,, 40k and a shitpot of hours and you get a brand new D9 uncairage,, pretty cool ,,,, That business model is what has made America Great ,,, thanks for explaining that and hopefully some young people will understand and follow
Different but the same. I made myself a millionaire via manufacturing and retired 2 years ago. 70% of the equipment was used that I rebuilt. Highest priced new machine was $264,000.00 and part of a triple redundancy. Reason for the purchase was to increase productivity.Retired now and just survived my first heart attack last Monday. Kinda glad I'm out of the game.
I personally like the old iron , things were made to last back then , new stuff is in my opinion use once and junk it . Glad to see that your keeping the old iron going
@@Failure_Is_An_Option I’m not talking about the new D9 D10 or D11 , just pointing out how great America once was and taking pride in the stuff we produced , the quality of the steel the used is not the same today , yes modern machines have better comforts and can do certain things the old machines can’t . But all the emissions are killing the diesel engines .
@@jonathanmurphy4562 You clowns and your narratives. Your romaticised idea of "how great america was" involves seriously antiquated hardware. Now you are pivoting to emissions? Son Caterpillar is the industry leader. Literally hit Tier IV compliance five years early. Hammered out the issue proactively and head on. Guess that is not murican nuf for ya. Oh and those emissions standards... they greatly extended your quality of life by an average of ten years. Keeping old gear running is great. There can be an emissions argument made there as well. However he is charging less while being less productive. The deal is not nearly as sweet as it is made out to be. All to easy to ignore retirement, & healthcare overhead. The latter will end up wiping him out.
I bought my own my own truck 4 years ago with 600k on it . The youngsters laughed and pointed at me for buying a 4 year old truck. Sure it cost me $40k for an engine at 830k, they laughed and pointed at me. 4th of July week I did a complete brake job with s-cams, drums, and shoes, Checked all of the hub bearings and replaced all hub seals. They pointed and laughed. But still in 4 years with all of my maintenance and payments combined I haven’t spent as much as I would have, payment alone if I bought new. Warranty doesn’t mean shit! If I had a $4500/month payment I’d have no choice but to work. The way I play the game I make the same money as those pointing and laughing but I don’t have to work if I don’t want to. It’s all about the cost of ownership. Trucks and heavy equipment can be rebuilt many times.
It is so awesome that You know how and where to repair-replace to make Your machines last. 👍👏 I like watching the fixes and watching the machines move dirt!
That was an excellent explanation of your logical & sensible business model - well said. The early high drives rarely had a carrier roller up top & I always wondered if that was to increase the bushing to sprocket contact patch but even then it offered nothing like the contact area with the traditional & best low drive layout. Your channel is great viewing by the way👌👍
thank you for the expanded overveiw of your buisness model ,makes good sense to me, just sweat exquity that keeps it all rollin ,and mo payments except to parts, a modern john wayne,keep a rollin on,.
Jeff, thanks so much for your excellent explanation of your business model and thanks to the viewer who asked it, I’m glad you messed the reply to him up so we could get the info on air. I bought a new Landini tractor new and I was lucky, she’s been a real reliable machine but for the rest I always old machinery, one because I’m never in a hurry to make it pay so I can get it cheaper initially, I also like to know the ins and outs of my machinery so servicing it myself makes me learn and finally I guess, I know it’s machinery but I work on the premise that I’ve put in all the hard yakka so I’m not going to abuse it, I’ve never understood any operator who gets a wage from machinery wanted to abuse it. Your formula made me really think and adjust my own way of thinking so thanks again. You should be real proud of yourself Jeff, you’ve got a great business, you’re a great operator and you have a wonderful head full of all sorts of knowledge so it’s a real credit to you and I appreciate it, as I know many of your viewers do, that you take the time to share it, knowledge is power for sure
Mr Paydirt, thats why I enjoy watching you and that UA-cam guy in Northern Canada, King of Obsolete. He likes the really old stuff you can sink in the lake for a few years . And still use it .😮
That sparkly stuff may be from INL, you may need a geiger counter.......😀 Talking about fixing stuff most people can't believe how much it would cost if you did not repair your own equipment.
I didn't hear a rant...I heard a rational well thought out explanation of why you do what you do. I'm about 10 years ahead of you. I made a great living rehabilitating large industrial equipment for others as a cost effective substitute for purchasing new. Unfortunately you are a disappearing breed...I follow you because you know the value of old yellow iron and consistsnt detailed work approach.... Stay blessed
Jeff you would have fell in loved with the industtrial 400psi 3 stage piston leaf valve compressor we had on the U.S.S. Saipan LA 2 Marine Carry All. It looked like a giant Harley engine with an extra piston. It stood 5 feet tall.
Jeff, i have a customer, with cat equipment, D9's, D8's, D6's, D4, 385's 349F's, 980H's 50'sand many more. While they do buy a lot of brand new, they rebuild their old stuff because it is cheaper than buying new even with their deep pockets. Its amazing to walk in the shop and see D9 high drive sitting on wood blocks and steel jacks, tracks off, drives apart. D6R just got rebuilt and now its time for new custom decals to go on.
I think that it was very gracious of You to share what You've learned about business and heavy tractors. A lot of people don't realize how much sweat equity is invested in a company like Yours. They think new equipment is the only way to go but i am here to testify about how being forced to buy new equipment by CARB nearly ruined my 21 year old business. It's a long Gruesome story that nobody GAF about. I didn't realize that the Inger-sissy impact had settings for murder, death, kill.... Oh, oh... Your hands, shoulders and arms... Gotcha ! Well Mister Anderson, i had better grab my hat and... GET OUT... Best Wishes to You, Your Family and Friends.
I like videos of you working, and working on your equipment. As a mid 40 year old owner of 2 working hwy trucks in the gas feilds of northern BC, I really enjoy the "numbers" videos too. Dont have enough people sharing their thoughts on what it takes it make it out there. Thanks for everything
And, if you had that new dozer, you would be riding in an air conditioned cab…, just think of it…, hahaha..! Very interesting your explanation of your decision(s) as to buying a new or used piece of equipment. Great video series, Thank you sir.
I agree with you that on a larger machine the conventional undercarriage is cheaper to run. In my mind a d7 and smaller machine shines with a high drive. I like the service design of it. It takes a third of the time to work on the drive components. Don't let the number of sprocket teeth discourage you as it doesn't matter how many teeth you use only one tooth is driving the track rail and the rest of the links are just loosely carried by the after sprocket teeth.
I disagree, you have 3 teeth driving the chain at all times on a high drive, there are 7 teeth engaged at all times on a conventional d9 , when cat came out with the L series they had a serious problem with track wear, so they added 30% more wear material to mitigate the problem, hence the 30% increase in cost 🤷♂️. You can't put that amount of torque on less teeth without a increase in wear.
To help visualize go to a crawler with a worn undercarriage. Take a hammer and hit the links around the sprocket. You will find either the top or bottom tooth on the sprocket will have most of the pressure on it. The rest of the links will be kind of loose just sitting there. On new rails it is harder to tell but the leading sprocket tooth is still doing all the work when driven but is harder to tell.
20:42 talk to Clint from C&C Equipment - he is a dealer for cat and john deere aftermarket and original dozer parts but also sells fixed up auction maschines from his own shop and a "spare parts fleet" - to circumvent the term backyard scrapyard
I didn’t mean to offend by calling it old junk. It was actually meant as a compliment that you have the knowledge, tooling, and work ethic to keep it all running and a make money with it. I’m impressed, and I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers.
Great video Jeff glad to see your getting this side track frame together. It takes a lot of work but it somewhat meaningful when you know how to fix it. Thanks for sharing stay safe Jeff.
Man, that is so nice having the frame off and flipped over. I replaced a couple rollers on my old dozer and jacked it up and swapped it out with the chain still on.
Great video 👍 The people who want new equipment would be the first to go find a cheaper quote and wouldn't give 2 cents wether new equipment or old was used😅.
Cat does show to have high-strength bolts that seem close to grade 9. A grade 8 has a minimum tensile strength of 150ksi. Grade 9 is 180ksi. The Cat should be 170ksi plus a 20% taller head. Seven dashes on the bolt head. I tried grade 9 bolts to hold wheels on an Atlas Copco Wagner MT5010 underground haul truck, 20 years ago. The bolts are technically stronger but in our case they were more brittle and seemed to break even more than grade 8 bolts. That could be a reason why Cat didn't go all the way to grade 9. If truly needing super-strong bolts that are tough, you have to spend lots of money on better alloy bolts, like ARP, Unbrako and SPS. Socket head bolts (cap screws) are in the 170-180ksi range and I think are a better alloy than typical grade 9. Should be tougher. In the case of the MT5010 truck, we had to switch to bigger axles and wheels to get things to survive. Dana Spicer finally came up with a new wheel end for the bigger axle to solve our problem of keeping the wheels from falling off!
Awesome I do the same thing been doing it for years have old d9g and a lot of older stuff people tell me I'm nuts but it works for being God bless everyone
Talking of all things Caterpillar undercarriage Jeff, I once did some contracting work at a Caterpillar track shoe/pad factory....A fascinating process (punch & press lines & the heat treatment lines 👌), excellent staff & management who ran it also. 99.9% of production was for Caterpillar, but they would occasionally do batches of unmarked non-Cat branded pads for one of the better independent track system parts supplier...
Thank you Jeff for the insight on your business practice. I'm looking to start my own business and I've never been able to get a straight answer on how you go about deciding on and justifying your rates. Something else I've never been able to find the answer to is how do you go about deciding how much to pay yourself as the owner of your business? As soon as I get my old heavy spec Marmon up and running, I'm hoping to start my own heavy haul business. I understand that the business is going to have bills and the truck trailer are going to require maintenance. Luckily I spent 5 years as a diesel mechanic so it have the tools and know-how to be able to work on my own stuff. What's your formula for deciding? How much goes to business and how much you would pay yourself is the owner? P.S. If you were to buy your own brand new quad axle lowbed, how would you load it out with chains, binders, blocking, etc? Thanks for everything you do!
🎉Thoroughly enjoyed your discussion on rates and parts prices.. Excellent chat😊 Would it be safe to say the total cost would push 100k in a repair shop
Hey Jeff,thx for the videos,love the wisdom you share. I love hearing about the haters and critter sizers to,just think they’d be picking on someone else if they didn’t have you….
I’m guessing the Japanese knew what some of the issues would be especially with maintenance with the high drive and they didn’t design any Komatsu dozers with high drives.
Jeffery, Re-un-tightening, tightening bolts. Words of wisdom from a 2018 Enerpac catalogue on Torque Tightening. Frictional Losses. 50% at nut face, 40% in threads, 10% converted to preload. Rule of Thumb when loosening more torque need than when tightening. Im sure you will agree with that. 2'5 times input torque to breakout in fact. Sea water corrosion, 2.5 times the tightening torque. Penetrating oils highly recommended as is anti seizure compounds. I guess there would be less of a problem with frictional losses is the bolt could be stretched to a re.-determined preload, not possible in your case but have seen it done and works well. Nothing quite like pre-load on your nuts. Pete.
Nothing wrong with your business model. If the equipment yard gate doesn't open, not a crisis. You aren't writing equipment payment cheques. Sure there are probably days you don't want to be wrenching. But what would you do to keep active the other days.
Hello, Jeff, given the QnA etc., I wanted to ask what you do with the old rollers and everything else that comes off, bolts, oil etc? And regarding the future, I guess buying up same tractors to break for spares must be getting more expensive now? Brilliant watching you work on all this. Once the sun eases, it must be very pleasant. All best, Phil
I love your old iron. They were built to last back then. Not so much now. Have ever reached out to Iron King to see if they have any parts you're looking for? They scrap a lot of old dozers.
Jeff, thanks for answering my question about the cost of that undercarriage replacement. I was curious to know. I laugh at all the people that think they need brand new iron to make money and that old iron doesn’t make money. I’m going to place an order for one of your green/black hats
Were I work they have a 8l it got new tracks and idelers 5year ago right now the tracks are off along with the rh final makes a fella wonder why the tracks need attention allready
Jeff, what keeps those track frames from spreading apart at the front when mounted on the dozer? I know that pivot bar goes in that cavity under the forward upper roller, but how is it retained?
You’ll probably retire before you buy a new dozer unless you land a long term government contract. And those contracts can disappear at any time. Thanks for the video.
mechanics are leaving fast we hear too. our relative that wrenches was offered an extra $8 /hr to stay and still moved on so people running gear gotta brace for 2024 and forward cost of staff. my apprentice left industry cause he found a oil company gig paying 60 an hr vs 35
I just bought a cat 941b track loader and a 225b digger both broken. scrap price. the excavator needs an engine overhaul. and track loader final drive new bearings and gears on the left side. I believe I can get inexpensive machines with reasonable work. I can't afford new machines.
When my dad was younger D7 "pins and bushing" turn pins after 1000 hrs, news rails after 2000 hrs my dad used D7F figure around 4000 hrs on U/C working oil and gas "drilling mud vertical bore wells." Go Fort McMurray AB dozer big stuff working in hydrocoke,"so fine gets into pins" couple months. Dozers working "tailing mud" six monthes (dozers rads top of cab). From reading "Lincoln on welding metals" R52 to R54 metal grain simular size to sand. Then if you use R60 metal grain smaller than sand, sand cuts like torch. Hope someone is working changing legacy D9 to diesel electric (no batteries) electric drive finals, parts become hard to find?
Older equipment and design is far SUPERIOR than any of the new stuff, hands down. The new "junk" is designed to fail and break prematurely and a lot of times you cannot rebuild and repair it, which causes EXCESSIVE EXPENSE!!!!! (basically you said the same thing in the beginning of the vid) The old saying if you want it done right you have to do it yourself is absolutely the case!!!! (especially in this current "woke" environment)
People that say old junk ? They just don't understand business or have no clue at all ! You the man on this stuff ! F the Haters !!!
Those haters are too damn lazy to work and they’d crap their pants when the first payment was due on a million dollar plus machine their parents co-signed for.
Odd.... Somebody bought all of that new at one point. Still do to this very day. Can you cash hate at the bank?
You haven't a clue either...at some point that equipment needs to be retired
Also, you dont understand, his equipment doesn't run everyday. It spends more time sitting than moving
Mr. Jeff, you are part engineer, accountant, mechanic, welder, and heavy operating engineer. Not many around with your extraordinary talents, maybe one in a million.
I totally agree jeff, Gotta have a wide variety of equipment and thats whats gotten me to where im at. I like my newer stuff on machines that need to run all the time and i love the older stuff for machines you need here and there. They are paid for and its not a big deal for them to sit alot
I was going to mention you 😂
You have 4 pieces of old cat"junk" when are you going to buy new, I've been told it doesn't wear out
Great job ,,,, 40k and a shitpot of hours and you get a brand new D9 uncairage,, pretty cool ,,,,
That business model is what has made America Great ,,, thanks for explaining that and hopefully some young people will understand and follow
50k just in parts...
Different but the same. I made myself a millionaire via manufacturing and retired 2 years ago. 70% of the equipment was used that I rebuilt. Highest priced new machine was $264,000.00 and part of a triple redundancy. Reason for the purchase was to increase productivity.Retired now and just survived my first heart attack last Monday. Kinda glad I'm out of the game.
Get yourself better,,,spend all that hard earned retirement... for a LONG time
Love the “old stuff, engineered to be repaired. No built-in obsolescence. Keep them running!
I personally like the old iron , things were made to last back then , new stuff is in my opinion use once and junk it . Glad to see that your keeping the old iron going
How many hours you have on a current D9 or similar? How many are in salvage?
@@Failure_Is_An_Option I’m not talking about the new D9 D10 or D11 , just pointing out how great America once was and taking pride in the stuff we produced , the quality of the steel the used is not the same today , yes modern machines have better comforts and can do certain things the old machines can’t . But all the emissions are killing the diesel engines .
@@jonathanmurphy4562 You clowns and your narratives. Your romaticised idea of "how great america was" involves seriously antiquated hardware. Now you are pivoting to emissions? Son Caterpillar is the industry leader. Literally hit Tier IV compliance five years early. Hammered out the issue proactively and head on. Guess that is not murican nuf for ya. Oh and those emissions standards... they greatly extended your quality of life by an average of ten years. Keeping old gear running is great. There can be an emissions argument made there as well. However he is charging less while being less productive. The deal is not nearly as sweet as it is made out to be. All to easy to ignore retirement, & healthcare overhead. The latter will end up wiping him out.
Man all that knowlage sir respect to you 👍
I bought my own my own truck 4 years ago with 600k on it . The youngsters laughed and pointed at me for buying a 4 year old truck. Sure it cost me $40k for an engine at 830k, they laughed and pointed at me. 4th of July week I did a complete brake job with s-cams, drums, and shoes, Checked all of the hub bearings and replaced all hub seals. They pointed and laughed. But still in 4 years with all of my maintenance and payments combined I haven’t spent as much as I would have, payment alone if I bought new. Warranty doesn’t mean shit! If I had a $4500/month payment I’d have no choice but to work. The way I play the game I make the same money as those pointing and laughing but I don’t have to work if I don’t want to. It’s all about the cost of ownership. Trucks and heavy equipment can be rebuilt many times.
Nobody cared what you bought. Nobody said or laughed anything...
Good content Jeff all the best with the rest of the build
It is so awesome that You know how and where to repair-replace to make Your machines last. 👍👏
I like watching the fixes and watching the machines move dirt!
That was an excellent explanation of your logical & sensible business model - well said. The early high drives rarely had a carrier roller up top & I always wondered if that was to increase the bushing to sprocket contact patch but even then it offered nothing like the contact area with the traditional & best low drive layout. Your channel is great viewing by the way👌👍
thank you for the expanded overveiw of your buisness model ,makes good sense to me, just sweat exquity that keeps it all rollin ,and mo payments except to parts, a modern john wayne,keep a rollin on,.
Jeff, thanks so much for your excellent explanation of your business model and thanks to the viewer who asked it, I’m glad you messed the reply to him up so we could get the info on air. I bought a new Landini tractor new and I was lucky, she’s been a real reliable machine but for the rest I always old machinery, one because I’m never in a hurry to make it pay so I can get it cheaper initially, I also like to know the ins and outs of my machinery so servicing it myself makes me learn and finally I guess, I know it’s machinery but I work on the premise that I’ve put in all the hard yakka so I’m not going to abuse it, I’ve never understood any operator who gets a wage from machinery wanted to abuse it. Your formula made me really think and adjust my own way of thinking so thanks again. You should be real proud of yourself Jeff, you’ve got a great business, you’re a great operator and you have a wonderful head full of all sorts of knowledge so it’s a real credit to you and I appreciate it, as I know many of your viewers do, that you take the time to share it, knowledge is power for sure
Much respect Jpaydirt!!!!
You do a excellent job that what you have to do with a family operation keep on keeping on . Happy Trails until we meet again ❤️
Mr Paydirt, thats why I enjoy watching you and that UA-cam guy in Northern Canada, King of Obsolete. He likes the really old stuff you can sink in the lake for a few years . And still use it .😮
That sparkly stuff may be from INL, you may need a geiger counter.......😀 Talking about fixing stuff most people can't believe how much it would cost if you did not repair your own equipment.
I didn't hear a rant...I heard a rational well thought out explanation of why you do what you do.
I'm about 10 years ahead of you. I made a great living rehabilitating large industrial equipment for others as a cost effective substitute for purchasing new. Unfortunately you are a disappearing breed...I follow you because you know the value of old yellow iron and consistsnt detailed work approach....
Stay blessed
Jeff you would have fell in loved with the industtrial 400psi 3 stage piston leaf valve compressor we had on the U.S.S. Saipan LA 2 Marine Carry All. It looked like a giant Harley engine with an extra piston. It stood 5 feet tall.
Jeff, i have a customer, with cat equipment, D9's, D8's, D6's, D4, 385's 349F's, 980H's 50'sand many more. While they do buy a lot of brand new, they rebuild their old stuff because it is cheaper than buying new even with their deep pockets. Its amazing to walk in the shop and see D9 high drive sitting on wood blocks and steel jacks, tracks off, drives apart. D6R just got rebuilt and now its time for new custom decals to go on.
I think that it was very gracious of You to share what You've learned about business and heavy tractors. A lot of people don't realize how much sweat equity is invested in a company like Yours. They think new equipment is the only way to go but i am here to testify about how being forced to buy new equipment by CARB nearly ruined my 21 year old business. It's a long Gruesome story that nobody GAF about.
I didn't realize that the Inger-sissy impact had settings for murder, death, kill.... Oh, oh... Your hands, shoulders and arms... Gotcha !
Well Mister Anderson, i had better grab my hat and... GET OUT...
Best Wishes to You, Your Family and Friends.
Nice Job Mr PayDirt! Your gaining on it.
Your Spot on with your business ethics.
Anyone can sign there name, paying for it, is another matter.
TGP
I like videos of you working, and working on your equipment. As a mid 40 year old owner of 2 working hwy trucks in the gas feilds of northern BC, I really enjoy the "numbers" videos too. Dont have enough people sharing their thoughts on what it takes it make it out there. Thanks for everything
And, if you had that new dozer, you would be riding in an air conditioned cab…, just think of it…, hahaha..! Very interesting your explanation of your decision(s) as to buying a new or used piece of equipment.
Great video series,
Thank you sir.
Love your business model and your success. Keep it going it works for you
I agree with you that on a larger machine the conventional undercarriage is cheaper to run. In my mind a d7 and smaller machine shines with a high drive. I like the service design of it. It takes a third of the time to work on the drive components. Don't let the number of sprocket teeth discourage you as it doesn't matter how many teeth you use only one tooth is driving the track rail and the rest of the links are just loosely carried by the after sprocket teeth.
I disagree, you have 3 teeth driving the chain at all times on a high drive, there are 7 teeth engaged at all times on a conventional d9 , when cat came out with the L series they had a serious problem with track wear, so they added 30% more wear material to mitigate the problem, hence the 30% increase in cost 🤷♂️. You can't put that amount of torque on less teeth without a increase in wear.
To help visualize go to a crawler with a worn undercarriage. Take a hammer and hit the links around the sprocket. You will find either the top or bottom tooth on the sprocket will have most of the pressure on it. The rest of the links will be kind of loose just sitting there. On new rails it is harder to tell but the leading sprocket tooth is still doing all the work when driven but is harder to tell.
Sweat equity is an awesome way to do business most times when someone else does work for you doesn't meet our standards.
20:42 talk to Clint from C&C Equipment - he is a dealer for cat and john deere aftermarket and original dozer parts but also sells fixed up auction maschines from his own shop and a "spare parts fleet" - to circumvent the term backyard scrapyard
I didn’t mean to offend by calling it old junk. It was actually meant as a compliment that you have the knowledge, tooling, and work ethic to keep it all running and a make money with it. I’m impressed, and I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers.
Great video Jeff glad to see your getting this side track frame together. It takes a lot of work but it somewhat meaningful when you know how to fix it. Thanks for sharing stay safe Jeff.
Man, that is so nice having the frame off and flipped over. I replaced a couple rollers on my old dozer and jacked it up and swapped it out with the chain still on.
Even for the "do it yourself" family, playin' with those heavy equipments costs alot ! Well done Amigo and good luck for the finish part !
Love the Videos Jeff. We have alot of that old Cat Junk out making money every day. Always searching for more Cat 379 tractors.
Your business model is sound. And that umbrella is LIT!
Great video 👍 The people who want new equipment would be the first to go find a cheaper quote and wouldn't give 2 cents wether new equipment or old was used😅.
Good advice and well explained thanks jeff
much to admire watchinyou jpay and yr commentary never dull allways busy and good on you cheers to you
Cat does show to have high-strength bolts that seem close to grade 9. A grade 8 has a minimum tensile strength of 150ksi. Grade 9 is 180ksi. The Cat should be 170ksi plus a 20% taller head. Seven dashes on the bolt head. I tried grade 9 bolts to hold wheels on an Atlas Copco Wagner MT5010 underground haul truck, 20 years ago. The bolts are technically stronger but in our case they were more brittle and seemed to break even more than grade 8 bolts. That could be a reason why Cat didn't go all the way to grade 9. If truly needing super-strong bolts that are tough, you have to spend lots of money on better alloy bolts, like ARP, Unbrako and SPS. Socket head bolts (cap screws) are in the 170-180ksi range and I think are a better alloy than typical grade 9. Should be tougher. In the case of the MT5010 truck, we had to switch to bigger axles and wheels to get things to survive. Dana Spicer finally came up with a new wheel end for the bigger axle to solve our problem of keeping the wheels from falling off!
Not to mention the high drive always have transmission hiccups constantly or catastrophic failure.
Awesome I do the same thing been doing it for years have old d9g and a lot of older stuff people tell me I'm nuts but it works for being God bless everyone
Hey jeff im assuming you were answering my question about new vs older equipment. Thanks for taking the time to explain your model it makes scenes.
I remember helping my dad redo his 2u d8 he had a j.d. g with a farmhand loader on tricycle tractor it was super safe lol
Curtis from C & C Equipment has entered the chat!
As always bro it was a great video. Ya bits you are working on are coming along. Safe travels. Ken.
Great music
A very logical business decision and plan
Talking of all things Caterpillar undercarriage Jeff, I once did some contracting work at a Caterpillar track shoe/pad factory....A fascinating process (punch & press lines & the heat treatment lines 👌), excellent staff & management who ran it also. 99.9% of production was for Caterpillar, but they would occasionally do batches of unmarked non-Cat branded pads for one of the better independent track system parts supplier...
Thank you Jeff for the insight on your business practice. I'm looking to start my own business and I've never been able to get a straight answer on how you go about deciding on and justifying your rates.
Something else I've never been able to find the answer to is how do you go about deciding how much to pay yourself as the owner of your business? As soon as I get my old heavy spec Marmon up and running, I'm hoping to start my own heavy haul business. I understand that the business is going to have bills and the truck trailer are going to require maintenance. Luckily I spent 5 years as a diesel mechanic so it have the tools and know-how to be able to work on my own stuff. What's your formula for deciding? How much goes to business and how much you would pay yourself is the owner?
P.S. If you were to buy your own brand new quad axle lowbed, how would you load it out with chains, binders, blocking, etc? Thanks for everything you do!
🎉Thoroughly enjoyed your discussion on rates and parts prices.. Excellent chat😊 Would it be safe to say the total cost would push 100k in a repair shop
Keep up the good work Jeff.
Great videos Jeff Sudbury On 🇨🇦
Hey Jeff,thx for the videos,love the wisdom you share. I love hearing about the haters and critter sizers to,just think they’d be picking on someone else if they didn’t have you….
I agree with your business decisions Jeff I ran my business very similar to you it's all about the bottom line 👍
I’m guessing the Japanese knew what some of the issues would be especially with maintenance with the high drive and they didn’t design any Komatsu dozers with high drives.
Jeffery, Re-un-tightening, tightening bolts. Words of wisdom from a 2018 Enerpac catalogue on Torque Tightening. Frictional Losses. 50% at nut face, 40% in threads, 10% converted to preload.
Rule of Thumb when loosening more torque need than when tightening. Im sure you will agree with that. 2'5 times input torque to breakout in fact. Sea water corrosion, 2.5 times the tightening torque. Penetrating oils highly recommended as is anti seizure compounds. I guess there would be less of a problem with frictional losses is the bolt could be stretched to a re.-determined preload, not possible in your case but have seen it done and works well. Nothing quite like pre-load on your nuts. Pete.
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Love your video's Jeff ' Thank you
good advice from the old dude
Nothing wrong with your business model.
If the equipment yard gate doesn't open, not a crisis. You aren't writing equipment payment cheques. Sure there are probably days you don't want to be wrenching. But what would you do to keep active the other days.
Thanks for sharing your ins and outs Jeff
Hello, Jeff, given the QnA etc., I wanted to ask what you do with the old rollers and everything else that comes off, bolts, oil etc? And regarding the future, I guess buying up same tractors to break for spares must be getting more expensive now? Brilliant watching you work on all this. Once the sun eases, it must be very pleasant. All best, Phil
scrap iron
I love your old iron. They were built to last back then. Not so much now. Have ever reached out to Iron King to see if they have any parts you're looking for? They scrap a lot of old dozers.
Thank for the answer RE: working in the shop rather than outside. It was kind of a lame question, but i was curious.
Jeff, thanks for answering my question about the cost of that undercarriage replacement. I was curious to know. I laugh at all the people that think they need brand new iron to make money and that old iron doesn’t make money. I’m going to place an order for one of your green/black hats
Great work Jeff as always 🦘
Were I work they have a 8l it got new tracks and idelers 5year ago right now the tracks are off along with the rh final makes a fella wonder why the tracks need attention allready
thank you geff for that talk, you are dead right on what you say.down here NZ ,would cost us a arm and legs?
Jeff, what keeps those track frames from spreading apart at the front when mounted on the dozer? I know that pivot bar goes in that cavity under the forward upper roller, but how is it retained?
Makes me feel like I got away cheap for the 12k dollar rubber bands on my tractor.😂
Jay.i hope you will allow me to come and follow you around for a while when I retire.you do sutch a good job
You’ll probably retire before you buy a new dozer unless you land a long term government contract. And those contracts can disappear at any time.
Thanks for the video.
As a sideboom operator give me a on poj any day. Glow plugs and reversible fans mean the start and can be warm in the winter
You do excellent work Jeff I would have you work on my stuff anytime
mechanics are leaving fast we hear too. our relative that wrenches was offered an extra $8 /hr to stay and still moved on so people running gear gotta brace for 2024 and forward cost of staff. my apprentice left industry cause he found a oil company gig paying 60 an hr vs 35
I bet there are some metal fabrication shops that can make a temporary rock guard for you, Jpaydirt
Your getting there I don’t know about you but the heat kicks my ass you’re closer to being done
i think you need a pole barn just to give you some shade to work under
Thanks!
You bet!
It's smart to own your own equipment with out payments. I think the question people have is why not newER equipment, not brand new. I could be wrong.
I just bought a cat 941b track loader and a 225b digger both broken. scrap price. the excavator needs an engine overhaul. and track loader final drive new bearings and gears on the left side. I believe I can get inexpensive machines with reasonable work. I can't afford new machines.
When my dad was younger D7 "pins and bushing" turn pins after 1000 hrs, news rails after 2000 hrs
my dad used D7F figure around 4000 hrs on U/C working oil and gas "drilling mud vertical bore wells." Go Fort McMurray AB dozer big stuff working in hydrocoke,"so fine gets into pins" couple months. Dozers working "tailing mud" six monthes (dozers rads top of cab).
From reading "Lincoln on welding metals" R52 to R54 metal grain simular size to sand. Then if you use R60 metal grain smaller than sand, sand cuts like torch. Hope someone is working changing legacy D9 to diesel electric (no batteries) electric drive finals, parts become hard to find?
Construction sounds like agriculture no matter what the equipment cost the cows still have to be fed or your ass will be out of business
Jeff those track roller bolts are heat treated to a higher tensile and yield strength.
How many hours do you think you got out of the old UC?
I hope you get the same amount of years out of the new parts. Low overhead is the only way us small guys can make it.
Hey up mate liked the rant about your business mode totally understand and agree
Hey there Jeff I’m curious about how your dog got his name MR. GRIFFY. He does a great job as supervisor.
@williamhall9204 grandkids named him Griffen, after griffindor in Harry potter
Older equipment and design is far SUPERIOR than any of the new stuff, hands down. The new "junk" is designed to fail and break prematurely and a lot of times you cannot rebuild and repair it, which causes EXCESSIVE EXPENSE!!!!! (basically you said the same thing in the beginning of the vid) The old saying if you want it done right you have to do it yourself is absolutely the case!!!! (especially in this current "woke" environment)
We have an air cat 1” that blows our IR 1” out of the water we use 3/4” air line at 110 psi you have to be careful on truck wheel studs.
Question: Is Mr Griffie outta sncks? We're putting together a care package before we move outta " The Highland Fortress" !
Thank you Jefff!!! Jeff wins/Griffy approved!
Good morning from Southeast South Dakota
I'd have long binned that Ingersol - too much time lost along with the uncertainty of whether it's really hitting the mark?
Good video. Enjoy your discussion on business model.
Jeff, you mean you don't have a money tree you can go shake and buy all new equipment? My stuff all old iron too, works just fine.
Is there an actual factory torque listed for the roller bolts and track guard bolts or is it just moose em tight?
Well said, well said!!
The new stuff is way overpriced and add all the headaches that comes with electronics you have it figured out Jeff.
I would rather work on my old stuff than make payments and have to work on it
maybe not new but good used . $ 35,000 used D9 80% under carage .