This OLED Broke Me - Spectrum Black 27 Gorilla Glass Review
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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This OLED Broke Me - Spectrum Black 27 Gorilla Glass Review
Today I have a very special OLED monitor I’ve been waiting a long time to review, because this display could change the way we look at monitors forever, and it’s broken me. I can’t look at regular monitors again. I'm talking about the Dough Spectrum Black 27 240Hz MLA WOLED monitor.
Intro - 0:00
Specs - 0:34
Price - 1:36
Color - 2:22
Brightness - 4:03
Latency - 6:17
Motion - 6:33
Text Clarity - 7:11
Finish - 7:35
Uniformity - 10:12
Issues - 10:26
Dough - 12:02
Big Upgrade - 13:03
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thanks for the review. i have been waiting for this! could you clarify with dough, if this is the oled panel v1 or v2 (with higher brightness) ? this would be more transparent for people that are about to receive their v1 model and assume to get the same results like you.
Only buy it through third party retailers like b&h
💯💯💯
This. It's definitely great from a technical point of view but I don't trust them
Even if it's safe, I don't want to financially reward a company that still didn't get around to refunding old undelivered purchases
Can't count on their warranty. Might need something like geek squad 3rd party warranty.
Right; Hey viewers, check out this awesome monitor from a company you shouldn't trust. Their warranty is garbage but get it from the only retailer selling it for some reason. Also, I got a handmade review unit but I'm sure their mass-produced units aren't crap. So many red flags just glossed over, WTF was the point of this video? @@Daniel_WR_Hart
I want to see them do the Gorrilla Glass with a QD-OLED Panel.
Why? QD is much worse.
Xd ? 😂@@snavzyonthebeat
@@snavzyonthebeatlmao both QD and WOLED are great
@@snavzyonthebeat How lmao
@@lilpain1997 higher brigntness, and you dont loose any contrast ratio or black levels when you are using the monitor during the day or in a bright room. The QD OLED "black image" or basically pure black colors become much lighter when the monitor is being lit up by lightning in the room or just by any ambient lightning, though WOLED does not care at the same time. A lot of reviews show also that WOLEDs are a bit brighter, (im talking about gaming monitors), even tho it is stated overwise on the internet. Maybe i dont know something? Can you elaborate on why do you think QD is better than WOLED, because im not someone who knows a lot about them, im just making this statement after couple reviews/tests i saw on the internet.
Do a video in which you say Quantum Dot Oled for 1 hour
still waiting on my spectrum black to be shipped. And seen them been 'in stock' on B&H just not make me happy when that stock could have been just for people who order early.
Does the BFI mode support HDR? I ask because you can overcome some of the brightness limitations of BFI with a displayscaler like the retrotink 4k in HDR mode. The LG C1 supports this but Asus OLEDs dont :(
Glad to hear the gorilla glass panel is very clear after all. Maybe someday we might get the perfect monitor (this is cope but still). Definitely glad i preordered the 32 wayback when it was 900 bucks, even though I acknowledge the risk involved with Dough.
A 27" 4k QD Oled with Gorilla Glass would be end hame for sure for me personally.
Too bad it still has some sort of coating underneath. What a joke
@thedisplayguy Why did they not opt for the new gen WOLED panel with RWGB sub-pixel layout? If they are using MLA, how did they end up with the old sub-pixel layout?
It's insane that 40% of people polled simply had money stolen from them by Dough. It wasn't a Kickstarter, right? This was a real company with a real product that just straight up stole from customers?
don't know whats going on with dough but i missed my delivery from B&H for this monitor today. So, maybe a brick is in the box we will see tomorrow unless my wife misses the fedex guy for signature acceptance of the package again tomorrow
@@Keltzzzz hopefully your brick will be glossy. Those matte bricks are unusable.
Lol, yup. Any time I see a review of their crap saying anything other than fuck these scammers do not buy I know a fucking fool is making the video.
Yes. It was just good marketing. They promised unique features and in the Oled segment there wasn't that much competition. When i "bought" mine i had the choice between 3 27" monitors overall. Well another reason to never again buy from a chinese company. But they even disguised that. It's scam country by this point. A business like this is state sanctioned over there.
I d say those are asus employees making an anticommercial
I don't see any of the 'anti burn in' things being marketed by other companies (perhaps it is there?). Specifically, I guess I am talking about the cooling/heatsink/etc stuff that is supposed to alleviate burn in by operating at lower temperatures. Do you have any thoughts on this?
I know asus has a dedicated heatsink, ultimately if you run a lower brightness I wouldn’t worry about it, if you are a 70% brightness or higher person I would be concerned
Would be interested to hear your thought on what would be the best monitor for productivity. I have a budget of $1200.
Their upcoming 32” spectrum black is my endgame monitor. It has everything I’m looking for. I’ll def get it when it’s available on B&H
i want the 32 inch version so bad.
Will the 32"/4K/240hz model coming out later have UHBR 20?
Fantastic, looking forward to the 32 inch version
Lets see how it handles burn in though.
Driving pixels harder might result in better brightness but also results in them wearing out a lot quicker, hence the much shorter burn in warranty to competing models
Do not buy from dough. They still haven't processed refunds over a year old.
They gave me a refund. They are pretty quick too.
@@christianplacencia7424 well there's 1000s of us who haven't
Hi display Guy! If you could please answer this question. If I plan to use this monitor in SDR mode only, and have no intentions of using HDR, are the colors at high brightness going to affect me much? Or the inaccurate colors at high brightness are only related to HDR content, and I would be just fine keeping it at SDR?
Thank you!
It’s hard to say for sure, but all test patterns show no color issues in SDR.
How are the on-screen menus? Are they buggy or have any issues?
They seem to work well. They're just a little sluggish (can't scroll around at rapid fire speeds) and a few of the features don't won't yet. However, I have discussed this on their Reddit community, and it will supposedly be addressed in an upcoming firmware update.
I have a video on my channel slowly scrolling through the OSD. I'll switch the video from private to public so that you can see it if you want to.
Spectrum black compatible with PS5 ?
I still play a lot of games on PS5 mainly FPS Battlefield 5 and 2042 with my friends.
Of course also on PC.
Battlefield runs at 60Hz on PS5. The motion blur is very high.
I currently have the Alienware AW3225QF. I can live with it.
Is it then a step backwards with 27"?
Do you think WQHD 27" looks worse than 4K 32" in terms of sharpness?
How will the brightness of the Spectrum Black 32" be? Same as the 27" ?
Display Guy, I would like to know how are the OLED care features when you get the review sample with the coating fixed. I hope they aren't buggy or something since for me that's one of the most important things on an OLED. I'm really waiting on the 32 inch 4k. I spoke with Migelangelo from dough on reddit asking that they should take a look at implementing extra OLED Care features like MSI on their OLEDs. For what he responded they bought an MSI sample to analize it so theres only hope 🤞. I also asked if they would release the monitor on major US retailers and he confirmed that yes, they would. I hope it realeases on best buy for that coating and being WOLED has me for that monitor.😁
Also I would like for you to confirm if they'll be using passive cooling for the 4k one. I believe that this is also something you should include in your reviews of OLED monitors as well has OLED care testing. Keep up the good work.👍
Would you choose this monitor over the Gigabyte AORUS FO27Q3? I can't decide but a glossy screen is a must have for me!
As one of those people that placed an order in June 2023 and requested a refund in August 2023, since then Dough has not even responded. Please reconsider supporting Dough in any form, they are scamming people out of their hard earned money!
What's the track that plays in the background of your videos?
Will be interested to see how the 4k one looks
Interesting to find Samsung G8 OLED in your list, and also interesting that ASUS AQDM 27" is missing. I have both, and I borderline hate the AQDM. Maybe I can tweak it to be better, but something about it just feels off - may be the matt coating combined with poor HDR. I'm planning on moving to another country now and may bring the 27" in my luggage... sure beats nothing, and I wasn't particularly unhappy with it, until the Samsung G8 34" OLED arrived.
how about SDR brightness!?
Interesting
I don’t trust them but I’ll definitely watch reviews about them see if they have improved or not
I want to see a Gorilla Glass version of a FALD 300 plus Local Dimming Zones Mini LED LCD.
Me too. Even on a plain 1080p monitor. I would pay 100 bucks for it , but the companies just ignore us😢
I'm still waiting for that 4K monitor! So I don't have to upgrade for awhile.
I really wanted this one but they don't deserve anyone's trust
Did you say that stand was optional at $100. Looks flimsy as hell and like the monitor would wobble every time you used the on-screen menu which you did not show.
Never heard of this manufacturer before but like most of the OLED and QD-OLEDs released in 2023 and so far in 2024 they are all offering pretty much the same thing since they are using the same two panel types with different pros and cons, including coatings, features and pricing (which obviously effects value for money). I doubt anyone would be disappointed with any of them personally, as a very happy owner of an Alienware AW2725DF, especially if they are coming from an IPS panel like I did where the IPS glow and low contrast were perhaps its greatest weakness. I don't even mind the purple cast to the screen during the day when the screen is off as it is not really visible during actual use and I'd take that, some slightly elevated blacks with perfect viewing angles, fantastic screen uniformity and rich colours over IPS glow any day.
That stand is the only solid part of this scam product.
I just don't see the problems with qd oleds blacks. Even when my room is lit I don't see it going grey at all. If I shine a light directly on it I can but it really isn't an issue so far.
Some are more sensitive to it than others. Me personally, I don't see a big deal with it cuz our perception of black in high ambient lighting conditions isn't as good as in dim or dark conditions anyway. TLDR imo black not looking as black in bright conditions doesn't matter.
@@FrowningTaco I would agree with everything you said
Qd oled coating is extremely fragile while Gorrila glass is super durable.
Connor is not a hardcore computer user as he recommends a monitor which have issues with displaying gray/dark shades. I dont know of any pc user who uses computers for work that uses light mode. When displaying the gray/dark shades for instance in windows dark mode u either see horizontal dark lanes running through the gray/dark shades or grid-patterns making it look dirty ie the dirty grays. Anti glare coating is not such a big deal compared to the dirty gray issues on woled monitors...
All monitors super-glossy with external matt filter possibbility 👍
Hardest thing besides reputation is you have to by it without seeing it
Hey man! I got my Spectrum Black 27 recently as well and agree with everything you said here. The quality is superb! But, mine doesn't have DSC locked on, but instead has DSC locked OFF.
There are also a few additional bugs related to frame capping and HDR compatibility detection. I made a post on their reddit page discussing these issues and their solutions (as there are workarounds).
$1099 for a 1440p monitor is insane. Did they have a lower preorder price or something before?
Yup plus OLED burn in is a concern
I like the appearance of the display but...this costs more than 1440p 360hz and 4k 240hz oleds while being only 240hz
2k I’m good and I’m sure the first few batches will be plagued with issues
What are the dsc issues ?
DSC cannot be turned off with current firmware, but should be fixed soon
Has it been fixed?
thx for video like
Nah not worth it, last years w oled panel with a glossy finish basically, or am I missing something?
Considering it wins against this years V2 in brightness I’m not sure.
@@thedisplayguy yah I suppose so brightness does matter to me. That price though!!! I just ordered my 4k alienware
Guess the 1440p 480hz panels are not ready yet? Or were they slated for next year? I forget
they’re already out!
@@tritrinh6855 meant 480hz
Can we talk about why in every shot of this monitor the bezels look uneven?????
Because it is, this is also a handmade and properly inspected monitor they send to reviewers and not even close to what they send out to the public. If they send you anything at all that is.
don't buy from these scammers
The reason you see grain is that they literally put a glossy gorilla glass layer over the normal matte coating of the panel. I've read it somewhere in their website or YT comments a while ago, they said it gets the advantages of both glossy and matte but I really doubt that.
You're just that biased towards the glossy look that it feels better to you even when it's just an outer shell, I feel this is more of a Placebo effect than anything. However I think this placebo effect would work on most people since in most displays they've seen glossy ones are premium (TVs, macbooks, phones...) and matte are budget (gaming monitors, old cars infotainment...).
Pretty sure that’s bullshit, I have two LG WOLED’s next to me, Dough Spectrum Black 27 from B&H, and KTC KP27G6, I can see each individual pixel behind the glass, while the KTC looks muddy and indiscernible, there is no matte coating underneath, no idea why redditors spread misinformation.
Anyone reading this, disable Cleartype for chrome, completely removes the chromatic fringing I got on white text on dark mode pages. Monitor is perfect.
@@ramonrodrigueziv1742 I'm not a ridditor, nor am i misinformed, Dough said it themselves, just look it up.
if this 27" was 4k it will be perfect, or someone just made sub 24" 1k since there no media on 2k, only 1k and 4k
this cured my ed
When does 32” come out and what will be the price point
Alienware aw2725df for £700 here in the UK is still my choice
Assembled by hand? 😂🤣
Yeah and apparently the guy who assembled it forgot to peel of the protective film underneath 😂 what a joke of manufacturer. Really Display Guy thinks these are assembled at Tesla Gigafactories by robots???😂😂😂😂😂
Almost ticked all the boxes - 27", gorilla glass, MLA W-OLED.... until the 1440p (not 4K is a dealbreaker). Almost had me...
There will be 27inch 120Hz+ monitors next year or the year after that
You didn't listen to the video. This is his model that Dough sent him in regards to testing. He legit said "before mass production" that's us. We're the other audience bloke.
@kongstrong88 yeah, I don't want a 32" version...
dough is eve??
Yes
bfi is made for exact frames and u have hz not for jumping fps.. otherwise it is not ok to use when u compete.
BUYER BEWARE.. THEY DON'TSHIP regularly
Honestly I’m kinda sick of OLEDs. We’ve gotten used to talking about brightness windows, but it’s still annoying. It’s very noticeable to me when OLEDs dim themselves to show bright scenes. Bring on MicroLED or super high density Mini LEDs. Full screen max brightness and no burn in
Cry
@@KingsDR Why are you like this?
Luckiest man alive
Don’t trust Dough/Eve Spectrum. So many customers scammed
24 ms input lag? That is crazy high for an OLED.
You're probably confusing total input latency with pixel response time. 24 ms total input latency is normal.
@@channel-zz8kk Yes, i guess, thats why i asked it, thank you.
I'll never buy a monitor that doesn't have back light strobing. My old zowie xl2411p has far better motion clarity with blur reduction on then a no back light strobing 360hz monitor .
is the 360hz OLED or not?
@@patrikmedia no I have an LCD 360HZ but my Friend has OLED 360hz and I tested Asus 540hz pg24qp both are great monitors motion clarity of 360hz OLED is pretty close to Asus 540hz with ulmb2 off.
@@patrikmedia my comments are getting deleted what's this nonsense.
@@Decki777 what are you talking about. i still see your comment waffling about non-strobing monitors are bad. not the case for OLED
@@patrikmedia OLED monitors are great but they still have big issues like burn in and brightness for competitive gaming Asus pg248qp is the best because it has ulmb2 and it'll support G sync pulsar but OLED will not support ulmb2 and Gsync pulsar.
HDR 400 ,это мало :)),нужно HDR 2000 нит :)
Why would you trust this companies warranty for this monitor? They’ve stolen from so many customers and you talk as if buying from b&h photo is a safe bet.
HDR 400 это мало :)
Please stop advertising them. Still owe me the NORMAL glossy 4k and I was part of the 1st preorder group. It's now less than I paid during the preorder, and still have no shipping in sight. They are scum of the earth and still owe many refunds or products like me. TO ANYONE WHO DID PREORDER, DO NOT ASK FOR A REFUND.
I would try to avoid LG OLED since they all seem to suffer from grey banding dirty screen
What are chances Samsung and LG would go Gorrila someday
People really have overreacted to the early problems this company had. They were a brand new company, challenging major corporations in a market that hasn't had any real competitors for a decade.
They managed to build, ship and support first in class tech while also getting all the back end logistics stuff in place.
Yeah, they didn't immediately have all their warranty and customer service stuff in place, but what do people expect? Go with a big name brand if that's what you're worried about.
But they never shipped a lot of their tech. And their QA and firmware are insanely bad. Lolz.
you lost me at 1440p and oled