I hate when they say the oldest manuscripts say this or it is not in the oldest manuscripts. If you research the disputed verses that bibles like the RSV and NIV omit, they are quoted by the Ante Nicene Fathers and that shows they go back a lot further than the Alexandrian copies.
Agreed, not to mention the critical text they are talking about has so few manuscripts and the majority text has so so many. Does this Text block cast doubt in places? I have an Allen kjv and haven’t noticed anything yet.
@@tyronrossouw44does it say certain verses are disputed? If so do you know where? I’m actually curious to look in my Allen and compare it to other kjv’s I have
Hey Randy , do you know that the Buttero Calfskin edition they stopped making has a "no rebind " statement? I was looking at mine awhile back and seen that and was wondering why that is ? I love that edition it's such a cool paste down and the printing was excellent with that run.
Have you ever done a video that compares Concord, Turquoise, etal? There are so many names given to the various texts that it becomes confusing as their names fly by in reviews. I'm sure it would have to be a two part video? If you have done a comparison, would you be so kind to provide the link? I never knew there were so many options until I started watching Bible reviewers like you. Thank you so much for the content you provide.
Hi Carmen. I have compared them in several videos, but only short comparisons. I think you're looking for more detail than that. I'll try do a detailed comparison soon.
If you had to pick from this or the really nice Concord with calfskin which would you pick? Also what Bible do the words go into the gutter more? Concord or Longprimer 52?
Both are excellent Bibles, but I personally prefer the Concord. I prefer the smaller size. I like the Bold reference System with the reference next to the verses and no callers in the text and that it has italics. However, the Longerprimer has excellent tools and more references. The Longprimer has more bend into the gutter because the block is thicker.
Me also. Id rather have imitation liner inside cover than 28gsm . That said i have a 53 and 63 on order. I have a cambridge turquoise. Love the big print but that 28 feels like fly paper. Little water crinkles page. The 36gsm on rl allan tough as sheets of plywood . A comparison between my nkjv 36 gsm and allans. For some reason the rl allan feels sturdier
Great review. I’ve been looking for a replacement for my Pitt Minion and had been considering this, but after your review I see it doesn’t have italics or red letters, and the cross reference system seems kind of clunky to me, so I think I’m going to keep looking. Nonetheless it’s a beautiful Bible and I’m sure appreciated by many.
allan kjv 62 longprimer sovereign black meriva calfskin silver line edition bible < hey Randy, would it be possible for you to do a video on this bible? i ordered one from Evangelical Bible but, i can't find any videos on it that match it exactly so, i was wondering if you could do one? i know it's hard to get R.L. Allan bibles for review but, it would be very much appreciated if you could make a video on it. i appreciate any consideration for this video request.
good review.... the most "mysterious" circumstance with the Allan KJV series is that the words in italics are printed as regular text.... i wonder why.... with this feature lacking, it is sort of not a "proper" KJV.... and of course, we have the textual notes added in the margin (replacing most of the original KJV translators' notes)... this feels a little like an "intrusion" on the KJV text, questioning the textual foundation of the KJV.... the textual notes seem to be based on the RV 1881 or the ASV 1901, kind of "correcting" the text according to the "revision" of the AV done in 1881-1901... the "best MSS" language is an inheritance from that era.... that said, there are some helpful marginal notes and it does not hurt to be made aware of variant readings....
I don't have an Allan bible But I'm liking the NASB 95 more and more I do have it in the Quentel regular size and also I'm going to get it in the personal-sized Quentel.
That's a tough one. Both have advantages. For the text, I prefer the Canterbury. I like the clean look and I like the glossary. For the Longprimer, I like the topical index. However, I do have access to better tools. Both have a good concordance and maps. If I had to choose just one, I'd grab the Canterbury.
The footnotes in the Longprimer make me wanna pull my hair out. I’ve asked Allan if they’d consider publishing an Oxford text only Bible and they said no because there isn’t much of a market for that type of Bible. Apparently Christians no longer want the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth and would rather be spoon fed by the publisher’s cross referencing and footnotes. Gail Riplinger has an article explaining why we need a revival of text only Bibles
@@cmiddleton9872 I didn't say anything about KJV only. I said that I agreed with her that footnotes in the Bible, especially the notes criticizing the text of the KJV are troubling. And I agree with her that heresy begins in a noted Bible. My Bible is text only, no notes, no cross references, no mans opinion. Just me and the Holy Spirit as my teacher.
Whats matter with scripture to interpret scripture. I have schuyler reference 200,00 the rl allan 53 100,000 and cambridge turquoise believe around 70,000. Plus t nelson . And not all have same reference. So all have come in handy. Its the word of God. With that said i want a pure 1611
@@godsfriend4120 God wants to be your teacher. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (Jn. 14:26). While I don’t think it’s a bad thing to learn from other Christians, I believe it must be frustrating for God to want to teach you all things but you constantly keep going to footnotes and cross references to try to learn. I truly believe we need one on one time with God in our Bible reading. Imagine reading the Bible, and every verse I personally stop you and say “the parallel passage to this verse is in Deuteronomy 6.” And then again you read and I stop you and say “A better reading to this verse is this” And then you begin to read again and I say “This prophecy will be fulfilled in 1 Thessalonians 4” Now wouldn’t that be frustrating for the reader and the teacher? God is the teacher, he doesn’t need to be constantly interrupted by some man’s input, even if the information is good. And neither does the student need to be interrupted and spoon fed what the Bible means.
They need to get rid of cf and not in original text put some stitching around perimeter and do the archaic words and phrases to the side. Blow that font up a little bit to maybe a 12 font. Less gutter. Use 38gsm paper. And with the 62 do same also with. It would only efffect size a tad. Wish the Turquoise would give atleast 36 gsm paper with more helps in back. And give option of wide margin. I just like when I flip a page to have something to grab on instead of have to press to turn. Get rid of yap and offer a goatskin leather Y2k zipper seperate bible cover
Hi. I've only seen a few vintage editions, but those that I've seen were thicker and less flexible. The tab in the edge-lined editions was not stiff, so the covers stayed all the way open. Some, like the Oxford Long Primer and the Cambridge Concord, didn't have an overhang, so the cover ended at the edge of the paper. The Cambridge Turquoise had a full yapp.
The concordance on the side is a reference to the early 1900s Collin bibles they say concordance on the side considering that it was a new concept in bibles at the time
@@BibleBuyingGuide I have noticed multiple Publishers that have Sovereign Bibles just didn't know what the word sovereign meant when they were referring to their Bibles thank you
@@randywheeler3914 true. The Longprimer Sovereign is the first one. Thomas Nelson later developed a mid-sized KJV based on the Schuyler Canterbury design and named it Sovereign.
I like doing a comparison from kjv to nkjv. The real bible believers has video on it. A chinese fellow. The nkjv twist to be submissive and also salvation finished work. Like example are kjv saved nkjv being saved
Hey brother. Check out Brandon Petersons numerical findings in the Authotized King James Bible, which prove that it is the right scripture. His channel is called TRUTH IS CHRIST. It will make you sob and weep, and never touch another false bible again. And you will love Jesus and his Book so much more. It was a new start to my spiritual life when I in 2007 learned this great truth, and since then I have not wavered in my faith a single time. God bless you and your listeners.
Pulling ribbons to the corner to open is something I learned from you today.
I agree, the paper in this Bible is fantastic! Thanks for all of your great reviews!
Thanks!!
I hate when they say the oldest manuscripts say this or it is not in the oldest manuscripts. If you research the disputed verses that bibles like the RSV and NIV omit, they are quoted by the Ante Nicene Fathers and that shows they go back a lot further than the Alexandrian copies.
This is the only thing I do not like about my Allan bible, or rather, the Oxford Text block used in this Bible.
Agreed, not to mention the critical text they are talking about has so few manuscripts and the majority text has so so many.
Does this Text block cast doubt in places? I have an Allen kjv and haven’t noticed anything yet.
@@tyronrossouw44does it say certain verses are disputed? If so do you know where?
I’m actually curious to look in my Allen and compare it to other kjv’s I have
I have the Schuyler Canterbury in regular size. It is great. White space. 11 point font.
Thank you for this review and God bless.
Even the "plain," "regular" black with navy lining and ribbons is great. Allan's Bibles are really special. The Longprimer is maybe the nicest KJV.
I picked this one up. It is excellent Randy...
Hey Randy , do you know that the Buttero Calfskin edition they stopped making has a "no rebind " statement?
I was looking at mine awhile back and seen that and was wondering why that is ?
I love that edition it's such a cool paste down and the printing was excellent with that run.
Have you ever done a video that compares Concord, Turquoise, etal? There are so many names given to the various texts that it becomes confusing as their names fly by in reviews. I'm sure it would have to be a two part video? If you have done a comparison, would you be so kind to provide the link? I never knew there were so many options until I started watching Bible reviewers like you. Thank you so much for the content you provide.
Hi Carmen. I have compared them in several videos, but only short comparisons. I think you're looking for more detail than that. I'll try do a detailed comparison soon.
If you had to pick from this or the really nice Concord with calfskin which would you pick? Also what Bible do the words go into the gutter more? Concord or Longprimer 52?
Both are excellent Bibles, but I personally prefer the Concord. I prefer the smaller size. I like the Bold reference System with the reference next to the verses and no callers in the text and that it has italics. However, the Longerprimer has excellent tools and more references. The Longprimer has more bend into the gutter because the block is thicker.
I like the Nelson 36 GSM paper more than the 28 gsm in the Schuylers.
Me also. Id rather have imitation liner inside cover than 28gsm . That said i have a 53 and 63 on order. I have a cambridge turquoise. Love the big print but that 28 feels like fly paper. Little water crinkles page. The 36gsm on rl allan tough as sheets of plywood . A comparison between my nkjv 36 gsm and allans. For some reason the rl allan feels sturdier
Great review. I’ve been looking for a replacement for my Pitt Minion and had been considering this, but after your review I see it doesn’t have italics or red letters, and the cross reference system seems kind of clunky to me, so I think I’m going to keep looking. Nonetheless it’s a beautiful Bible and I’m sure appreciated by many.
Personal size Schuyler Bibles are great if you're looking for a small Bible.
Is the font size, and boldness of this bible the same as the longprimer 62?
Yes, it is the same.
allan kjv 62 longprimer sovereign black meriva calfskin silver line edition bible < hey Randy, would it be possible for you to do a video on this bible? i ordered one from Evangelical Bible but, i can't find any videos on it that match it exactly so, i was wondering if you could do one? i know it's hard to get R.L. Allan bibles for review but, it would be very much appreciated if you could make a video on it. i appreciate any consideration for this video request.
To me the Canterbury text is cleaner and easier on my older eyes than the Allan.
good review.... the most "mysterious" circumstance with the Allan KJV series is that the words in italics are printed as regular text.... i wonder why.... with this feature lacking, it is sort of not a "proper" KJV.... and of course, we have the textual notes added in the margin (replacing most of the original KJV translators' notes)... this feels a little like an "intrusion" on the KJV text, questioning the textual foundation of the KJV.... the textual notes seem to be based on the RV 1881 or the ASV 1901, kind of "correcting" the text according to the "revision" of the AV done in 1881-1901... the "best MSS" language is an inheritance from that era.... that said, there are some helpful marginal notes and it does not hurt to be made aware of variant readings....
Is the missing italics really common for all Allan Bibles? KJVs that be…
Yes i plan on marking that out with marker. I want to get a pure 1611 bible. To preserve the word of God also
I don't have an Allan bible
But I'm liking the NASB 95 more and more I do have it in the Quentel regular size and also I'm going to get it in the personal-sized Quentel.
If you had to choose between this and the Canterbury which would you choose?
That's a tough one. Both have advantages. For the text, I prefer the Canterbury. I like the clean look and I like the glossary. For the Longprimer, I like the topical index. However, I do have access to better tools. Both have a good concordance and maps. If I had to choose just one, I'd grab the Canterbury.
@@BibleBuyingGuide Thank you so much for taken the time to respond. Most channels don’t.
The footnotes in the Longprimer make me wanna pull my hair out. I’ve asked Allan if they’d consider publishing an Oxford text only Bible and they said no because there isn’t much of a market for that type of Bible. Apparently Christians no longer want the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth and would rather be spoon fed by the publisher’s cross referencing and footnotes. Gail Riplinger has an article explaining why we need a revival of text only Bibles
Do you have a link to the article published by Gail on this subject?
Gail Riplinger is not a reliable source, even if you are KJVO.
@@cmiddleton9872 I didn't say anything about KJV only. I said that I agreed with her that footnotes in the Bible, especially the notes criticizing the text of the KJV are troubling. And I agree with her that heresy begins in a noted Bible. My Bible is text only, no notes, no cross references, no mans opinion. Just me and the Holy Spirit as my teacher.
Whats matter with scripture to interpret scripture. I have schuyler reference 200,00 the rl allan 53 100,000 and cambridge turquoise believe around 70,000. Plus t nelson . And not all have same reference. So all have come in handy. Its the word of God.
With that said i want a pure 1611
@@godsfriend4120 God wants to be your teacher. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(Jn. 14:26). While I don’t think it’s a bad thing to learn from other Christians, I believe it must be frustrating for God to want to teach you all things but you constantly keep going to footnotes and cross references to try to learn. I truly believe we need one on one time with God in our Bible reading. Imagine reading the Bible, and every verse I personally stop you and say “the parallel passage to this verse is in Deuteronomy 6.” And then again you read and I stop you and say “A better reading to this verse is this” And then you begin to read again and I say “This prophecy will be fulfilled in 1 Thessalonians 4” Now wouldn’t that be frustrating for the reader and the teacher? God is the teacher, he doesn’t need to be constantly interrupted by some man’s input, even if the information is good. And neither does the student need to be interrupted and spoon fed what the Bible means.
The TURQUOISE to me is much better than the Allan and also it has the blue along the edge of paper which is my favorite colour.
They need to get rid of cf and not in original text put some stitching around perimeter and do the archaic words and phrases to the side. Blow that font up a little bit to maybe a 12 font. Less gutter. Use 38gsm paper. And with the 62 do same also with. It would only efffect size a tad. Wish the Turquoise would give atleast 36 gsm paper with more helps in back. And give option of wide margin. I just like when I flip a page to have something to grab on instead of have to press to turn. Get rid of yap and offer a goatskin leather Y2k zipper seperate bible cover
Given your knowledge about Bibles were Bible covers in the past as thin and flimsy as the ones on Allan longprimers?
Hi. I've only seen a few vintage editions, but those that I've seen were thicker and less flexible. The tab in the edge-lined editions was not stiff, so the covers stayed all the way open. Some, like the Oxford Long Primer and the Cambridge Concord, didn't have an overhang, so the cover ended at the edge of the paper. The Cambridge Turquoise had a full yapp.
At 15:03 it is 2 lbs. 9 oz. not 2.9 oz right?
Yes. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video. I like the Turquoise much better. More true to the Word.
The concordance on the side is a reference to the early 1900s Collin bibles they say concordance on the side considering that it was a new concept in bibles at the time
Interesting! Thanks for the info!
Glad you liked it!
Is it red letter?
No
Does this bible have Red letters?
No
"C.f." always meant "compare" to me.
Do all the long primers 52 has self pronouncing words ?
Yes. The design is the same for all the Longprimers.
Can anyone tell me what a KJV sovereign Bible is?
It's a Longprimer with 38gsm paper (vs this one's 36gsm) and wider margins (except for the inner margin).
@@BibleBuyingGuide I have noticed multiple Publishers that have Sovereign Bibles just didn't know what the word sovereign meant when they were referring to their Bibles thank you
@@randywheeler3914 true. The Longprimer Sovereign is the first one. Thomas Nelson later developed a mid-sized KJV based on the Schuyler Canterbury design and named it Sovereign.
@@BibleBuyingGuide so Sovereign bibles are just a name and don't refer to any special features of a particular Bible?
@@randywheeler3914 that is correct.
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I like doing a comparison from kjv to nkjv. The real bible believers has video on it. A chinese fellow. The nkjv twist to be submissive and also salvation finished work. Like example are kjv saved nkjv being saved
"How can we attack the KJV?"
Allan "hold my NIV"
Niv is terrible
Hey brother. Check out Brandon Petersons numerical findings in the Authotized King James Bible, which prove that it is the right scripture. His channel is called TRUTH IS CHRIST. It will make you sob and weep, and never touch another false bible again. And you will love Jesus and his Book so much more. It was a new start to my spiritual life when I in 2007 learned this great truth, and since then I have not wavered in my faith a single time. God bless you and your listeners.
I prefer the Turquoise, but i hate self pronouncing text. Hate it.
Looks like a nice Bible. Too bad it has self-pronouncing text.