Stadium Truck VS Short Course Truck (RC)
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- In this video I'll be going over the two Truck classes in 10th scale RC racing and see which one you should go for if you're looking to expand your 10th scale racing fleet.
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Whoever was driving that short course truck on the track from 10:31 to 12:34 was very good!
I loved running Stadium Truck back in the day. Stock and Mod Stadium Truck usually had more drivers than Stock and Mod buggy.
Great video! 4WD SCT is one of my favorite classes to run. Down in south Florida all the tracks have a dedicated class for them. I do wish we had more tracks that ran 2wd stadium truck.
Love the Stadium Truck class, just picked up a T6.2 and I’m loving it
Who makes the T6.2? Sounds like an Team Associated stadium truck. I have not been into pro RC since I raced my Team Losi - XXX-T, XXX-NT, & Mini T Stadium Trucks in the early 2000's. Team Associated had a T3 Stadium Truck when I raced. Man I am getting old, lol.
Yeah, Team Associated. I just upgraded from my Team Associated T4.2, but I did used to race a Losi XXX-S in VTA. Very nice car to drive but spare parts were getting harder and harder to find
The. Slash is the Best RC Short Course ever Made.
😂
It's a great beginner platform. Infinite personalization possibilities. So much after market support.
It gave me the RC obsession and I still like ripping mine up and down the street
The slash is bad ass, I both the 2wd and 4wd.
4WD SCT is actually quite popular here at my home track in Texas. Weekly club races typically have roughly half a dozen 4WD short courses, and they're pretty competitive. They occasionally bring out a few 2WDs but they're far less popular and usually get lumped in with the RWYB, Future Champs, and Spec Slashes unless someone throws down a call-out on them.
Conversely, we don't run 10th Stadium Truck at all. One shows up from time to time, but everything else is 8th buggy and truggy.
Indy World?
Ive been trying decide what other class I can run at my local track, nice one mate, you've helped me decide. SCT. Great video as always.
Get the SCT. Get some dirt.....carpet ...and onroad 8th scale wheels . You can then drive that thing anywhere!! Most versatile rc car ever!!
Love SCT. By far the most fun and challenging class to race. Plus the new bodies that came out help with the parachute effect nicely. I recently got a Tekno 410.3, absolute favorite truck to drive since the first lap. Going to get a 410SL kit soon for indoor winter racing
@@wilburkookmeyer024 they really are the best. I actually entered an open class on road race. I put some 12mm to 17mm hub conversation...then added some GRP Tires GT - TO4 Slick Belted Pre-Mounted 1/8 Buggy Tires. Brother.....it was by far the most fun I've had racing. Hopefully more guys join next race....but it's a hoot when your short course is owning some 10th scale 4wd sedans on an onroad course. I'll try to upload some videos to my UA-cam so you can see. Enjoy the new sct brotha
@@wilburkookmeyer024 ua-cam.com/video/C-MkHHE58DI/v-deo.html
I love my short course. Can play with that thing Anywhere. It's a beautiful kit for sure. Rc10Sc6.4!!!
Really interesting video. The more I use RC the more I gravitate towards scale looks and performance. Rubbing makes racing a lot more fun.
As an old person getting back into the hobby, and as a motorsport fan in general, I like that there are so many RC competitions from local and regional to nationals. I'm also surprised that some classes aren't more popular, such as the SCT. When I was a youth in the 80s, pre-runner trucks and baja trucks were all the rage. So much so that most every truck manufacturer had their own version, and they were essentially SCT trucks. I mean, whether it's an Arrma Senton or a Traxxas Slash, or Losi, or Associated... they're ALL based on the legendary Toyota Hilux SR5 race truck of the 80s and 90s. Heck, even Back to the Future's Marty McFly had one. I don't know why they're not more popular. They are a blast to drive. And all these things called buggy's are not. If it doesn't have a Beetle body or tube chassis, fat rear tires and pizza cutter front tires with a big stinger exhaust pipe sticking out of the back, it's not a buggy. For example, the Injora Tarantula is a bonafide buggy.
Sct all the way! Need more races at big events, make them drive!!
Im making a RC game and your videos have been full of great information to reference, I am a nitro driver myself but just love all things RC. Keep up the great content and thank you!
Man, I have such a blast race, my sc6.2!!!!!!!!
Ah the Big Bear class, haven't thought about that in a while. Once our track started allowing the Blackfoot to race the Big Bear class it was all over for the Big Bear lol Granted, once JG and Pro-Line (and maybe A&L) came out with their truck conversions for the RC10 and then the JRX2 they dominated the truck classes until the JRXT and RC10T were released. I actually have a JRX2 with the JG monster truck conversion, huge body post mounts and big knobby tires...good times!
I would like to see more of this . Really Great !
I raced an Losi SCT 2.0 with TEKNO outdrives and bones. Loved racing that truck and yes it sucked outdoors in the wind. But, man I could chase down some dudes. Just never had an indoor track big enough where I live to really stretch its legs.
to bad the oldscool body's from the stadium trucks aren't used anymore. That look is what got me in to RC cars as a kid.
Jconcepts made some at a later stage? would be awesome to fit one on a T6
Mini trugy is treated as the fun class at my local track. its for the guys that are able to control the mod motor and just want to not deal with the constrictions of stock classes
From my experience:
Stadium trucks have exceptional traction compared to other 2WD 1/10th classes due to their large contact patch, are generally easier to drive than either buggies or short course trucks, and tend to be "set and forget" on most surfaces making them a great entry point into racing (or, well, they would be if more tracks ran them, but apparently there's a lot of buggy guys who seem to wish that the class just never existed to begin with). My first hobby grade RC car was a Duratrax Evader ST, and now that I finally got my Storm ST ready I'm looking forward to running it at All Out RC at least as a practice car (and maybe we can get a class for them going there).
2WD SCTs... well, I'll probably get a lot of crap for saying this, but in terms of performance they're generally going to be the weakest of the 1/10th scale 2WD classes (though not by a huge amount, it's close enough that a well tuned 2WD SCT in the hands of a skilled driver can keep up with STs and sometimes buggies). They're heavy, their big bodies cause a significant parachute effect, and they just seem to kinda float around the track rather than being able to actually corner. That being said, their longer wheelbases make them more stable in corners than either buggies or stadium trucks and that combined with their floatiness can also make them relatively easy to drive. Coupled with the closed-wheel body design of the class and 2WD SCTs make a good entry and casual class for people who just want to have fun.
2WD Buggies (for completion's sake)... I kinda don't like these. I KNOW I'm going to get a TON of flak from most of the racing community, but these things are a pain to drive, a pain to set up, and in general can be very frustrating. And honestly, I kinda blame this class and it's ubiquity as THE racing class for having a part in how RC racing's popularity hasn't really been able to grow that much. A lot of tracks run these almost exclusively, and it's a very difficult and discouraging class for people getting into the sport. That being said, these do tend to post the fastest lap times of the 2WD classes.
"Mini" Truggies... First off, I hate the name for this class, there's nothing "mini" about a 1/10th scale truck but the name stuck. Anyway, 1/10th scale truggies have all the advantages of a stadium truck combined with 4WD. The result is a vehicle that doesn't even give a shit about setup as long as it's in the rough ballpark, can put TONS of power to the ground and run hotter setups than even 4WD buggies, and is just generally going to be an absolute blast to drive. They're one of only two 1/10th scale classes that you commonly see alongside the big 1/8th scale classes, the other being 4WD SCT. Also, because setup doesn't matter too much as long as it's in the ballpark, this class is also the easiest to build a competitive car for - people have had success running everything from the top-end Tekno and XRAY kits to the budget racer HoBao Hyper TT10e, to even Rustler 4x4s and Stampede 4x4 truggy conversions and possibly even the Himoto Katana (although the Katana's tendency to spit out dogbones would probably hold it back). Seriously, why aren't 1/10th scale truggies more popular?
4WD SCTs are, for all intents and purposes, 1/8th scale buggies wearing SCT bodies, running SCT wheels and tires, and powered by 2S power systems rather than the normal 4S systems seen in E-Buggies. On the ground, they handle about how you'd expect a vehicle described like that to handle, but in the air the huge bodies cause a nasty parachuting effect. They're fun, and the 4WD setup definitely makes these things more nimble and less floaty than their 2WD counterparts.
4WD Buggies, or "Wheelers" as some people call them, are THE most precise and capable 1/10th scale off-road class out there. They can be VERY aggressive and a lot of setting them up is simply taming their super-aggressive handling, but other than that being 4WD gives them a huge advantage in terms of drivability compared to 2WD buggies. These things tend to turn the FASTEST lap times around tracks as well, and can carve corners like nothing else except maybe some 1/8th scale 4WD buggies. That being said, while they're easier to drive than 2WD buggies once dialed in, that doesn't mean they're outright easier to drive. They demand precision. That being said, this is one of a small handful of classes that will make you a better driver if you run it, alongside 1/12th scale pan cars, 1/8th scale buggies (particularly the nitro ones since those force you to maintain corner speed) and 1/8th scale On Road GP.
when i was a kid the stadium truck class was as popular if not more than the 4x4 buggy classes in my area. I think that was due to the cost of 4wd buggy
A couple aspects of SCT that I like, the longer wheelbase kinda gives you a bit more time to react when the rear end breaks loose, so more power sliding and drifting, and sometimes a bit less looping out. The SCT bodies definitely give lots of area for paint, more to see, and look great with scale race liveries... mine is done up with City Chevrolet stickers...
I still love my 2wd mod trucks though, and will always try to have a stadium truck at the ready , as well as an SCT... I also like being able to run my 2wd nitro trucks , which has opened a can of worms as far as Nitro goes...
My broke ass gonna pull up with a slash 😂, fr tho, all these RC racing videos have been a big help as I’m interested in getting into it
Doooooo iiiiiit
The 2WD Slash actually gets a spec class at some tracks. At tracks that don't offer one you _can_ make a Slash somewhat competitive with a LOT of effort and some significant upgrades, but at that point you'd be better off putting the money into a Serpent SRX2-SC RTR or an Associated Pro2 SC10 (it'd still be cheaper than a full race kit, though).
If you've got an LCG Slash 4x4, though, you're actually in luck. They're not the best truck for the 4WD SCT class but you can turn them into proper race cars relatively easily compared to some of the other Traxxas models.
I converted my JRX pro to an LXT and I was happy with it. Trying to steer those old buggy's with their thin front tires was impossible. You would just push forward while the front tires skipped. You had to let off of the throttle to turn. With the truck, you just powered through and with the fat tires on the front you had the traction to hold your line.
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Man I miss Jang from URC and his videos! He was so ahead of his time
always wanted to race. Was kinda a shock to see how few stadium trucks there are now. remember the late 90s early 00s there were just as many as buggy
Short course trucks are basically stadium trucks with bigger shells and skinny wheels. The HPI blitz is 90% identical to the HPI firestorm 10t to the extent when parts aren't available for the firestorm, I rely on blitz parts!
For me the stadium truck is the winner, nicer to drive, better to bash, and easily converted to an SCT with a couple of parts later on down the line. (Nevermind the wheelies! 😂)
SCTs also have stretched chassis.
God this made me miss ultimaterc 😭 great video though!
Really good video, it helped me a lot to decide, i love how sct handle in low grip terrains, that said i am a ST guy, love that infinite stability
All I run now since I've been back in the hobby is SCT. I think the crowd of people is chiller than the buggies.
Great run down on the two classes. I think to run Short Course, part of it is liking how they look when driving them. Sort of scale with all the leaning and wallowing. I don't know if that applies to racing them. I bought cheap all metal shocks for my 4x4 Slash a while back. I put them on after popping a cap on the original plastic ones. Problem is, it now handles, and I'm not sure I want it to do that. I may go back to the original shocks. (I don't race btw).
For the most part, the racing-focused SCTs don't behave like the Slash does. The Slash was specifically built with an elevated center of gravity and progressive rate shocks to make it prone to body roll like a full-size SCT. While they add to the realistic appearance, these design elements hurt the handling of the truck. Modern racing-focused SCTs typically run an aluminum chassis set very close to the ground and conventionally sprung shocks. The bodies are also typically vented to prevent the parachute effect that a big body shell would normally cause.
@@VestedUTuber Yeah I bought a racing SCT for my son several years back. Associated from memory. Very much derived from their other racing chassis. It's awesome. Put a stupid fast Castle esc/motor combo in it. It's a monster.
You lads in the US are so lucky I envy you so hard. Here in Croatia there are no off road racing whatsoever. We only have on road 1/10 electro, 1/8 GT electric, 1/10 F1 and that's pretty much it. The only off road I think we used to have was 1/8 buggies and that's it. Literally no 1/10 buggies at all let alone SCT or ST... Pure sadness.
Well it sounds like you should build an off road track.
@@SnarkyRC We have 2. One in town called Velika Gorica and the second in the town called Krapina. Neither are made for 1/10. Both are for 1/8 that used to be run here. Both towns are small population wise and are not nearly as large as capital that is close to them. So they don't see a lot of use Also good luck building anything in Croatia. Just getting a permit is pure pain due to lackluster bureaucracy... In this country if u are not into football(or soccer whatever u call it) you might as well forget any other sport lmao.
Love both of those classes. Started out on a losi XXX-T and not too long after a slash and a slash 4x4. My last local track stock sc is popular and now there is a stadium truck class (there wasn’t before), but unfortunately the 4x4 sc class died out (maybe this winter will change)
Now the new track I go to (because I moved to a different state) I’ll be club racing there for the first time tomorrow so I guess we’ll see what they have for short course and/or stadium truck. For those who got this far in this comment wondering what cars I’ll be driving they are a TLR 22 5.0 elite (17.5) and a Tekno SCT410SL (4x4 short course) which I only got because TLR discontinued the TEN SCTE 3.0
Love stadium truck....then sct.....wish it would make a back
SCTs are more interesting to watch and look at, the Slash was my first hobby grade RC so I’m heavily biased towards them. But it’s near impossible to deny that Stadium Trucks are the better competitive class. I prefer Stadium Trucks over buggies because the body gives you more space to express yourself even if it’s not a full canvas like the Slash. My Mini T 2.0 has three bodies and I plan to get more as I get more color scheme ideas.
xray scx23 is a beast on the carpet
i race mine at nor cal hobbies
SC is a blast to race!!!!!!
Great video im barely getting into the hobbie i would love to learn more about the different types of racing cars very interesting.
Short course trucks for the win!
Great video I do have 2wd stadium and short course trucks unfortunately my tracks only run them in 13.5 and I run mod motors so they will just be fun rigs until I can afford to travel down for the MOD race or attend the ROAR NATIONALS one day.
How did you know i was searching for this video last night 🤯
*He's in the walls*
My heart will always bleed stadium truck, was never a scaler, so never even looked at Core or short course trucks. To me the stadium truck was like an outlaw buggy class, wider suspension, longer wheelbase , bigger tires, everything bigger and somewhat better in stability also more potential for faster times (in my experience). I've had buggies, but never could tame their twitchy handling, where stadium trucks had the stability where it was needed. I never raced indoors on a prepped track, always on loamy true dirt tracks, so maybe that was the problem. But i always ran modified classes (hated stock) so the stadium truck always worked better for my driving style. Sorry i never liked short course trucks, too scale and too limited in performance for me
My first real RC was a Team Ae Rc10T. But I had more fun converting my Rustler into things it was never ment to be and my mini Slash 4x4. ( rip mini slash) always wanted to do some fun club lvl racing, just never a track close enough
Great video
I still have my Team Losi - XXX-T, XXX-NT, & Mini T pure race stadium Trucks & use them constantly ever since I got them in the early 2000's. I highly prefer only full blown race vehicles instead of the backyard bashers that are available these days we got stuck with.
Forgot to put the title on the video…
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My favorite class is 2wd short course truck. Been driving that for 10 years. I drove a stadium truck for the first time 2 months ago and instantly fell in love. I hate 2wd buggy.
if you drive the shortcourse in the real mud outside and wet sand it drives super good its more for havy ground track
Awesome job dude! I have the same JC body on my st 👍
Another great video! Keep it up!!
Love the way real one's lift the inside wheel way off the ground under cornering.
Can you get a rc one to do that ?
I imagine it would be great fun
I've never actually seen an RC SCT lift a wheel completely off the ground like a full-size SCT, but the Traxxas Slash, Slayer and Slash 4x4 in particular were designed to have a lot of body roll. That being said these are generally NOT very competitive racing vehicles - you can make a Slash 4x4 competitive with some work and the 2WD slash gets its own class, but the Slayer was hopeless as a race car.
Biased but ever since the Slash days that got my into this space, for me the 2WD SCT class is pure fun to compete in from backyard to club tracks and beyond…although mini truggy could be in my future…appreciate the keen insights, Roach! P.S. try to cut vent holes in your SCT to make it more aerodynamic
Mini truggy is a lot of fun. Just make sure there's a class for them👌
I got a 1/10 Xray truggy as a yard basher and it’s a blast. It drives terrible compared to my 6.2.
I got a Big Bear. With a thorp in it
2wd and 4wd SCT for outdoor low bite, stadium for high bite
Those proline axis stadium truck bodies look awesome but they are garbage as far as durability goes. Get a JConcepts body and don’t look back. They also sell replacement wings unlike proline.
Lol my proline body didn't even last a race day
in new zealand we run sct like crazy at some placers they are bigger then buggy
Chique pista 🏎🔥💥💨😎💪🏼🤛🏼
My brothers truck in the cover lol
Nitro Stadium Truck is king 1/10
Stadium Truck is the beginning 🏁
The manufs were not really putting out conversions for buggies in the 80s. It was outfits like JG who would sell you a kit for ~25-35$ to make your RC10/JRX2/Ultima a truck. They came in and wiped floor with Blackfoots/Beetles/Big Bears/Brutes etc. then the JRXT came along and put the conversions in their place. This exact evolution occured in 1/8 nitro in the mid 2000s when folks were racing nitro monsters, then 'truggy' conversions came out, then the Jammin (followed by others) came out and took over to stay. Only thing that has really changed is that in the late 80s/early 90s people laughed at Traxxas now they are just the biggest company in the world and by a wide margin. -U10
Traxxas vehicles are bashers not pure race vehicles, they are not called Team Traxxas after all, lol.
@@DTW-bx2vy I don't know about nowadays but back in the mid 2000s I raced the Traxxas Revo 3.3 and it was a huge class, we had over a hundred racers at the 2006 Silver State Nitro Challenge, i had a Great time beating many of the pro/paid sponsored drivers from many manufacture's (Traxxas, Losi, Associated, and HPI) I finished 6th overall and they they still had the class, my race Revo's now just collect dust in the garage, thinking of doing a electric conversion just to bash....
Watching this makes me miss Xmods... man Radio Shack really Sh!t their bed with that... They could have been SO much more... soooo much more.
SCT!
Tamiya made some like the dyna blaster I.e.
Wow, 2wd i would suggest
with a buggy. The first mistake is thinking that a truck is a buggy, not even close. Totally different driving style. Personally, 2wd buggies suck. Might as well be driving a touring car. 4wd truck is where it's at. I never saw a big bear raced anywhere.
Great Video. I would conditionally disagree with your assessment of SCT being less competitive and slower. Outdoors a well set up SCT is very competitive and often faster and handles better than 2wd buggies. (Track surface dependent) Indoors you are correct the buggies are faster and handle the higher traction better. Hands down the SCT is more fun to race. Too many buggy snobs in the buggy classes.
As far as jumping an SCT. I try to fly slightly nose down and use the body to push the truck down. The easiest way to do that is never be under power off the lip of a jump, set the right amount of drag brake and the truck will fly low and fast. If the nose is too low, throttle is up.
Keep up the good work.
I confirm that in France, SCT are dead on track. People use them for bashing by using Aarma Senton for example but not on the track.
In 1/10, stadium truck are less popular than buggy for racing.
Sct all the way 😀👍
I personally really like SCT cause they are kinda sorta scale looking, but they are an absolute disaster on the local track's super high bite carpet due to the body's super high CG. I also personally think ST's are the dumbest looking race oriented RC out there. But they work much better on the carpet.
You forgot to mention the best sct. The tekno 410.3
what's the difference between truggy and stadium truck?
Mini Truggy is 4wd, Stadium Truck is 2wd
bring back monster trucks!! theres no big wheel 4wd racing any more
I really hate that short course is dead in europe. Its my favorite class and I don't get why nobody runs them here.
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Way more 6.2 s on the track I bet
Is a Traxxas rustler a stadium truck?
Yes
im guessing your into guys. cool vid tho !
SCT not dead in uk
Which one is more popular, 2wd or 4wd short course?
2wd for 10th scale tracks
is there a way to set them up like real ones so the inside front wheel leaves the ground hugely ? .
I mean you can. But it won't drive very good
Please 🙏 tell
i imagine running one on carpet for extra grip would make great fun.
That's what it's all about at the end of the day.
@@michaelsmyth5658 Very soft oils and progressive rate springs
Has Tamiya made any short course or stadium trucks?
Nope
@@RoachRC anybody take a TT02 buggy and modify it?
They probably have but I'm not sure it's worth it
me wishing gas truck would get popular again 🥲
If they'd be allowed on stadium truck class, build one... here a lot of outdoor club racing allows them, as stadium truck is open/mod ... I've got a GT2 , and 3 T6.2 based trucks that see the dirt often enough...
🤣🤣🤣 awesome
Great video.. But what were you recording the race footage with, an old camcorder? Lol
Depends on which part.
Buy one 4 wheel buggy and you can run both classes just remove front driveshafts🤦
SCT is better. Every track near me runs 4x4 SCT and nobody runs stadium truck
Stadium truck > short course
No
crack? is that what you’re smoking?
@@xxtomcatxx short course are for bad drivers lol.
@@grantbonilla6471 cope
확실히 쇼트코스트럭은 무겁게 움직이네요 스타디움 트럭은 경쾌하네요 그래서 더 좋다고 하시는거 같다
Truggies.. silly nonsense.
Oh you're gonna love the next video