John, I have a Kubota BX23S and have not raised the hydraulic pressure. I bought the cylinders from HydrosPlus last fall, and had to buy hydraulic hoses since the factory hoses were a tad short. Kubota shows 2 different part numbers for the hydraulic hoses, so I suspect one might be a little shorter than the other. You don't want to stretch hydraulic hoses. I haven't noticed any stability issues, but I also have 2.5" spacers on my rear wheels, which would help make the tractor a little more stable. I never raise the loader higher than the hood when driving around. I moved rock and dirt since installing these cylinders, and don't think you'll overload the front axle considering the size of the loader bucket. The cylinders definitely make it easier to dump material in taller trailers. I also have the Land Pride PFL1242 pallet forks. The main reason I bought the cylinders, is I have storage racks in my pole barn and the cylinders give me an additional 11.5" of lifting height, and can lift 35% more weight. I raised the shelves and gained an additional 11.5" of storage height below. It's definitely nice to have the added lifting capacity, and lifting height when you need it. Use common sense if you install these cylinders, and don't drive around with the loader raised 6' or you might be 6' under!
I'm digging a pond with my bx23s I'm 8 ft deep right now with the stock cylinders. I have to pile the dirt up right now the max is 5 ft I'm going to get the loader cylinders I am convinced it will help
Jon, my man, you are killing me. Each time you show an improvement for my baby, it ends up costing me. Did you mention you had a Facebook page along with your UA-cam channel? I would love to show you my knock off, home made DIY version of the Curtis cab. It cost me around $2500 in materials and is years ahead of theirs. You like bells and whistles? This one is full of it.
LOL!!! I know UA-cam is expensive!! I’ve been influenced to buy so many things from watching others. I do have a Facebook page. It’s called A Ritter Bit Will Do. Check it out send me a message and attach those pictures. Would love to see your cab! Keep on tractoring!
Good job, Jon! Please remain ever careful in having more weight, at a higher center of gravity. I still say that the real lifting capacity needs to factor in ~#200 for the bucket weight, because you are lifting and measuring at the pins. Therefore, the capacity is closer to #1400, IMHO. The increased capacity will make the BX even more able for all kinds of chores. I would love to see how your BX acts cutting into a pile of dirt and a pile of stone and breaking out a heaped bucket. I bet it will be a marked performance improvement for this type of task.
That is true, minus the weight of the bucket would increase that capacity by even more. I'm looking forward to testing it out in real world scenarios however in about 2 weeks I'll likely have the snowblower one. Those real world tests might have to wait until spring. Keep on tractoring!
Well this video stinks!!! Jon you just proved that I made a huge mistake selling my BX23S. I only traded for lift height and capacity. 😢 I literally needed 6 more inches to reach over my new trailer and I needed at least 1000 pounds of capacity to lift logs. What a shame. Thank you so much for bringing these amazing videos to us and the hard work you dedicate to sharing these game changers with us. I wish I had of waited to trade because that tractor was paid off.
Oh bummer!! Sorry I couldn’t bring this video to you sooner. The BX is a good machine but just needs a little tweaking to be a great machine. What did you end up trading for? Keep on tractoring!
Good morning Jon. This is very impressive. I am very happy with the lifting capacity of our B2601, and I probably shouldn't be left unsupervised with more lifting power. The lift height however, would really be handy . Thanks for this info. Ben
Very impressive. These aftermarket cylinders may save me thousands from having to trade up my BX to a B or LX Kubota. I previously looked into putting larger lift cylinders on my BX after my neighbor did so to his brand new Kubota 3560 cabbed and loaded grand L. But I couldn't find any cylinders that fit right up - would have had to source bushings, etc. for the ends and the closest set was slightly longer which would have prevented the bucket from going all the way down. Count me in.
Great series Jon! Just got off the phone with Kevin and happy to say I will be getting a kit for my L3901! Curious to see if they will increase my maximum lift height as it did for your BX! Thanks for the videos!
In one video from HydrosPlus, I heard Kevin mention a stronger cylinder for the bucket curl. I don't know if he'll offer one but at least he's thinking about it. Keep on tractoring!
Hi Jon, I watched both videos of the cylinder upgrade and I am Impressed I figured it could reach those numbers. My concern still is, is it structurally safe, and safe in general in a real life scenario to be adding this amount of lift capacity and lift hight to these small compact tractors ? We all know how tippy they can be. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these and all of your videos to help the consumer gain knowledge. However, I feel their are to many cowboys out there that are going to run out and buy these and start breaking axles, tie rods bending things or worse yet get someone hurt. Keep up your good work with your videos, you are a wealth of information.
Hmmm, I have a set of Landpride forks which are too heavy for the BX at 306#. With decent ballast, getting a couple hundred more practical lift pounds might make them actually serviceable.
I see see Kevin also sent you a new hat? I will be ordering the same for my new BX2680, to bad there on backorder! Thanks for all the really cool info!
I think 600 was maximum height. Because I was just 2-3 feet off the ground I got 880. The new cylinders really turned it into a beast. Keep on tractoring!
You'll notice that currently they are on backorder but are expected to be back in stock around Thanksgiving from what Kevin tells me. I think it's money well spent. Keep on tractoring!
Great video, I had use for them recently trying to put brush into my dump trailer with my grapple -really could have used extra height, but made do without. Definitely will be ordering a set when they become available. Love your videos- esp. with your helpers haha 😆.
I didn't notice what you had on the back (weight) I have problems with my back tires lifting up with the backhoe on. Don't have a scale but I'm interested in these .love to try
Not sure what they are rated for but with warranty expired and seeing others shim relief valves we're going to push the limits a bit and maybe find out at what point things will break. Keep on tractoring!
Your speed test is underselling it by a lot. You added about 1 foot of lift, so full ROM isn't the measurement you want. You want feet per second. Old lift height was ~6 foot which took 9.7 seconds or about 0.62 feet/second. New lift height is ~7 foot which took 13.9s or about 0.50 feet/second. A loss of about .12 feet/second, which is only about 20% loss in speed for a 35%+ gain in power and a 16.7% gain in lift height! Seems like a good trade, especially considering you're probably measuring that small loss in speed in 10ths of seconds most of the loader work you'll do.
They are expensive but I think it's a fair price for what you're getting. I think you might even spend more than that for the factory cylinders from the dealer. They should be back in stock around Thanksgiving from what I'm told. Keep on tractoring!
@@Jtwizzle1 foot higher up and 1 foot farther down which is 2 feet of additional travel is what he meant. Jon timed the full cycle all the way up and all the way down. God bless you!
The backhoe provide adequate ballast but I think with a lighter attachment an operator needs to know what they are doing. I should probably do another video promoting those safety concerns. Keep on tractoring!!
That is a tough decision, the main factors I like my BX are it's small and nimble and able to get into tight areas while have a low impact on yards. I can also trailer it with my half ton truck and attachments are generally cheaper than that of a larger tractor. Now everyones situation is different and that LX series is a nice tractor. I'd opt for a cab version though. Just my 2 cents. Keep on tractoring!
Right now they are about $800 for the pair but currently backordered. Kevin tells me they should be available near the end of November. Keep on tractoring!
Go buy a bigger tractor if you want to lift more heavy stuff, I am sure if you screw up the loader because you lifted some stuff way to heavy , have fun trying to explain that when you talk to Kubota trying to get it covered by warranty, 🤦♂️
Um, you didn't lift anything though. What I saw was you were pulling on something buried in the ground and you call that "lifting capacity" ? I think you need to actually lift something OFF the ground to get an accurate test. Just my 2 pennies.
John, I have a Kubota BX23S and have not raised the hydraulic pressure. I bought the cylinders from HydrosPlus last fall, and had to buy hydraulic hoses since the factory hoses were a tad short. Kubota shows 2 different part numbers for the hydraulic hoses, so I suspect one might be a little shorter than the other. You don't want to stretch hydraulic hoses. I haven't noticed any stability issues, but I also have 2.5" spacers on my rear wheels, which would help make the tractor a little more stable. I never raise the loader higher than the hood when driving around. I moved rock and dirt since installing these cylinders, and don't think you'll overload the front axle considering the size of the loader bucket. The cylinders definitely make it easier to dump material in taller trailers. I also have the Land Pride PFL1242 pallet forks. The main reason I bought the cylinders, is I have storage racks in my pole barn and the cylinders give me an additional 11.5" of lifting height, and can lift 35% more weight. I raised the shelves and gained an additional 11.5" of storage height below. It's definitely nice to have the added lifting capacity, and lifting height when you need it. Use common sense if you install these cylinders, and don't drive around with the loader raised 6' or you might be 6' under!
I'm digging a pond with my bx23s I'm 8 ft deep right now with the stock cylinders. I have to pile the dirt up right now the max is 5 ft I'm going to get the loader cylinders I am convinced it will help
Its also impressive that your scale reading was high because you had the bucket attached too 💪
Got mine yesterday, installed today, very happy with lift and height. Equivalent to a B class now. Thanks.
Wow, that is unbelievable!! great video!!! 👍🏻
I'm very happy with the results! Thanks for watching.
Keep on tractoring!
Great job God Bless you too.
Jon, my man, you are killing me. Each time you show an improvement for my baby, it ends up costing me.
Did you mention you had a Facebook page along with your UA-cam channel? I would love to show you my knock off, home made DIY version of the Curtis cab. It cost me around $2500 in materials and is years ahead of theirs. You like bells and whistles? This one is full of it.
LOL!!! I know UA-cam is expensive!! I’ve been influenced to buy so many things from watching others. I do have a Facebook page. It’s called A Ritter Bit Will Do. Check it out send me a message and attach those pictures. Would love to see your cab!
Keep on tractoring!
Hey Dany, any chance you can share your cab, I would love to see it.
Nice work Jon!!!
I’m sold! Thank you for making this series
Thanks for watching! Definitely a huge upgrade from those stock cylinders.
Keep on tractoring!
Very cool! Have a great weekend Jon and family.👍🏼😊🌴💪
Thanks Mark! Hope you're doing well.
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Great upgrade JON. Just have to be carful which I’m sure you will. 👍✊
Good job, Jon! Please remain ever careful in having more weight, at a higher center of gravity. I still say that the real lifting capacity needs to factor in ~#200 for the bucket weight, because you are lifting and measuring at the pins. Therefore, the capacity is closer to #1400, IMHO. The increased capacity will make the BX even more able for all kinds of chores. I would love to see how your BX acts cutting into a pile of dirt and a pile of stone and breaking out a heaped bucket. I bet it will be a marked performance improvement for this type of task.
That is true, minus the weight of the bucket would increase that capacity by even more. I'm looking forward to testing it out in real world scenarios however in about 2 weeks I'll likely have the snowblower one. Those real world tests might have to wait until spring.
Keep on tractoring!
Well this video stinks!!! Jon you just proved that I made a huge mistake selling my BX23S. I only traded for lift height and capacity. 😢 I literally needed 6 more inches to reach over my new trailer and I needed at least 1000 pounds of capacity to lift logs. What a shame. Thank you so much for bringing these amazing videos to us and the hard work you dedicate to sharing these game changers with us. I wish I had of waited to trade because that tractor was paid off.
Oh bummer!! Sorry I couldn’t bring this video to you sooner. The BX is a good machine but just needs a little tweaking to be a great machine. What did you end up trading for?
Keep on tractoring!
That is pretty cool! I might need to think about a pair! Thanks for posting!
Good morning Jon. This is very impressive. I am very happy with the lifting capacity of our B2601, and I probably shouldn't be left unsupervised with more lifting power. The lift height however, would really be handy . Thanks for this info. Ben
Thanks, yes I'm pleased to have some more lifting power and the height increase will be helpful for certain situation I'm sure.
Keep on tractoring!
Great information to share with the BX community. Thanks. Enjoy The Journey - Cheers
Thanks Bob! Yes I think this was definitely worth sharing and I’m glad I could partner with HydrosPlus to share this info.
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Very impressive. These aftermarket cylinders may save me thousands from having to trade up my BX to a B or LX Kubota. I previously looked into putting larger lift cylinders on my BX after my neighbor did so to his brand new Kubota 3560 cabbed and loaded grand L. But I couldn't find any cylinders that fit right up - would have had to source bushings, etc. for the ends and the closest set was slightly longer which would have prevented the bucket from going all the way down. Count me in.
Glad I could share this information with you. I’m truly impressed with the results!
Keep on tractoring!
Great video and test, its good to see real results. The added lift height would be helpful for sure.
I have a BX 2350. Gonna see if this will fit.
Great series Jon! Just got off the phone with Kevin and happy to say I will be getting a kit for my L3901! Curious to see if they will increase my maximum lift height as it did for your BX! Thanks for the videos!
That is absolutely amazing!! My thought, and my hope for that box, is a bigger bucket curl cylinder!! Need more breakout force now!! 🤞🏼
In one video from HydrosPlus, I heard Kevin mention a stronger cylinder for the bucket curl. I don't know if he'll offer one but at least he's thinking about it.
Keep on tractoring!
Hi Jon, I watched both videos of the cylinder upgrade and I am Impressed I figured it could reach those numbers. My concern still is, is it structurally safe, and safe in general in a real life scenario to be adding this amount of lift capacity and lift hight to these small compact tractors ? We all know how tippy they can be. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these and all of your videos to help the consumer gain knowledge. However, I feel their are to many cowboys out there that are going to run out and buy these and start breaking axles, tie rods bending things or worse yet get someone hurt. Keep up your good work with your videos, you are a wealth of information.
Hmmm, I have a set of Landpride forks which are too heavy for the BX at 306#. With decent ballast, getting a couple hundred more practical lift pounds might make them actually serviceable.
Yes for sure! An additional 330 pound of lift. Plus with fork the additional 12 inches of height could be useful.
Keep on tractoring!
I see see Kevin also sent you a new hat? I will be ordering the same for my new BX2680, to bad there on backorder! Thanks for all the really cool info!
The cylinders should be available again pretty soon. Keep checking!
Keep on tractoring!
Impressive! I thought I had read that stock lifting capacity of the bx23 was only 600 something pounds, so i was excited to hear that 800 you got.
I think 600 was maximum height. Because I was just 2-3 feet off the ground I got 880. The new cylinders really turned it into a beast.
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Double WOW!!!! 😮😅😊
Thank you, thank you!! I appreciate you watching.
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That's amazing!!! Thanks!
I'm very impressed with the results. I am so happy to now be able to lift over 1000 pounds.
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Great video, I’m sold…oredering a set for my BX23S!
You'll notice that currently they are on backorder but are expected to be back in stock around Thanksgiving from what Kevin tells me. I think it's money well spent.
Keep on tractoring!
Great!
Thx brother
Oh man, I just ordered them, but I won't be able to use them til next spring. 😲
Any sense of issues with warranty coverage?
Great video, I had use for them recently trying to put brush into my dump trailer with my grapple -really could have used extra height, but made do without. Definitely will be ordering a set when they become available. Love your videos- esp. with your helpers haha 😆.
Thanks! Those helpers have been pretty busy to join me in a video lately! I’ll have to get them on video soon again.
Keep on tractoring!
I didn't notice what you had on the back (weight) I have problems with my back tires lifting up with the backhoe on. Don't have a scale but I'm interested in these .love to try
I had the backhoe on and I could feel the backend getting a lot lighter as I was lifting. The cylinders make a huge difference.
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Your lift speed is actually not that slow because your going another 12” higher. Very impressive and awesome video. Keep it up!
That is very true! I think it’s very comparable to the stock speed.
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Its 35% slower if it was lifted to stock height it'd be around 30% slower.
Good Morning Sir 👍🧐👌🚧🚧TRULY OUTSTANDING RESULTS 💪👌🧐👍🚧🚧Keep Up Your OUTSTANDING Videos Sir Cheers 👍🧐👌🍻
Hey Dave, the results are inline with what HydrosPlus said and I couldn't be happier. Thanks for watching buddy!
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What are the loader arms rated for in lifting weight??? Will lifting the new max eventually brake them??
Not sure what they are rated for but with warranty expired and seeing others shim relief valves we're going to push the limits a bit and maybe find out at what point things will break.
Keep on tractoring!
Your speed test is underselling it by a lot. You added about 1 foot of lift, so full ROM isn't the measurement you want. You want feet per second. Old lift height was ~6 foot which took 9.7 seconds or about 0.62 feet/second. New lift height is ~7 foot which took 13.9s or about 0.50 feet/second.
A loss of about .12 feet/second, which is only about 20% loss in speed for a 35%+ gain in power and a 16.7% gain in lift height! Seems like a good trade, especially considering you're probably measuring that small loss in speed in 10ths of seconds most of the loader work you'll do.
At around $800,I’m on the fence about purchasing them. Yes I’m impressed! 🤔
They are expensive but I think it's a fair price for what you're getting. I think you might even spend more than that for the factory cylinders from the dealer. They should be back in stock around Thanksgiving from what I'm told.
Keep on tractoring!
Id try increasing the psi before getting the cylinders if you need just a bit more power on the cheap.
For that extra 4 seconds the bucket is traveling 2 extra feet also to go same distance as before probably no change or minimal at least
Its only one foot higher. Its still at least 25-30% slower if lifted to the same height.
@@Jtwizzle1 foot higher up and 1 foot farther down which is 2 feet of additional travel is what he meant. Jon timed the full cycle all the way up and all the way down.
God bless you!
You are correct, not really much change at at she you think about it. 👍
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Any concerns about rear ballast weight with the added lifting capacity? Does the backhoe provide adequate weight?
The backhoe provide adequate ballast but I think with a lighter attachment an operator needs to know what they are doing. I should probably do another video promoting those safety concerns.
Keep on tractoring!!
Do you worry about your front axle capacity with the newly increased loader strength? I don't know what your front axles are rated to take.
I'm worried less about that than just making sure I'm being safe and not doing anything to cause the tractor to tip.
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Thanks But what's in the box ?
You'll have to keep watching to find out. 😊
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Wow, let us know when your front end and load brackets break🙄
Jon, does HydroPlus offer these cylinders for a JD 4720?
I’m not sure, you’d have to check out the website. hydrosplus.com
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I am at a crossroads. Do I keep my BX23S or get a LX4020?
That is a tough decision, the main factors I like my BX are it's small and nimble and able to get into tight areas while have a low impact on yards. I can also trailer it with my half ton truck and attachments are generally cheaper than that of a larger tractor. Now everyones situation is different and that LX series is a nice tractor. I'd opt for a cab version though. Just my 2 cents.
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Very impressive can you tell us what those cylinders cost.great job 😅
Right now they are about $800 for the pair but currently backordered. Kevin tells me they should be available near the end of November.
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Looks like its only a couple hundred pounds from pulling up your anchor 😂. I saw the ground swelling around the hook.
I saw that also! The ground had been very saturated when I made this video. I was surprised it moved though.
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Now you’ve got all the lift you could possibly want… Lift away all day… Lol! I’m guessing bolt on hooks are in the box.
The added lift capacity is going to be very useful! I'm looking forward to putting it to use now. You're close with your guess.
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I don't know how you got a set of these. They have been showing backordered for as long as I've been looking at them. UA-camr privilege I guess.
These cylinders should be available soon. Keep checking the website.
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1000 dollars for 2 dang little cylinders!! REALLY? they should came on it ! smh!
🤨Go SLOW.!!! Make sure your stable.!!! 🤔
Go buy a bigger tractor if you want to lift more heavy stuff, I am sure if you screw up the loader because you lifted some stuff way to heavy , have fun trying to explain that when you talk to Kubota trying to get it covered by warranty, 🤦♂️
My warranty is expired anyway. Time to have some fun. I have over 1000 hours seat time. Experience is key to being safe.
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Um, you didn't lift anything though. What I saw was you were pulling on something buried in the ground and you call that "lifting capacity" ? I think you need to actually lift something OFF the ground to get an accurate test. Just my 2 pennies.
I guess capacity can be interpreted in terms of volume. I hope to find time to lift some things before it snows!
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