This set is making a lot of people who treat this game like a financial investment mad. And it's a very good sign. Im glad that this will likely bring down the prices of many cards
as a cardshop owner, i'm glad to see more products that are actually meant to bring new players into the game. That, in the long run, will be a better value for us, and for the players, and even for the game.
All of this reprint are GREAT!! The weirdness around "running the value of these cards into the ground" is so odd when this is meant to be a card game that you actually play. MTG's main focus is NOT being a collectable TCG, I'm so glad that they're getting more cards out so people can play with them!! ⭐
Magic the Gathering. Its in the name bro. Yes its a game but these cards need to hold some value inorder for people to have fun chasing and collecting. If a new TCG comes out and all the cards are below 2$, the game would die fast
If they hold no collectible value then why are we paying $200 for a box of cards. If all bulk bin then a box should be more like $60. As you pointed out, it's just cardboard.
@@entertainmentinc9735 That's what I think the alternative treatments are for. Pokemon is doing fine with them. I think the WOTC has actually finally got it almost right with stuff like the Raised-Gold-Foils in Bloomburrow, but they made it Collector's only which really limits who gets to collect, and the prices are insane.
Cards game made to be played and have fun, I'm just happy if those card value go down. Need more reprint and set like this. I personally own multiple cards of this set and I don't care because ... it's paper. Thanks for sharing, I hope news players will grab it.
For you and me it may not mean much, but the person making this video runs a card store. Card stores need cards to maintain some value in order for them to make money and remain open.
@@Cyber1zed Games need a healthy balance of old players and new players to work, if you ponzi scheme off the "investors" you'll be left with the sack sooner rather than later see all crypto scams. A card store than can't business shouldn't exist and a card store that relies on single prices is led by stupid.
then why not just print fake cards who care right? got 8 black lotus in my deck who care its just a game why count point? who care the basic is just to have fun right? everyone is a winner yeah!
Can't make anyone happy, they will complain when you put good cards in product like this, or will complain if you fill it with bulk rares. I was glad to see wizards put some decent reprints in here. And long term I think they end up holding. Did you know there are some cards that were put in FREE welcome packs that stores could get over and over that still have significant value over bulk?
We should be happy there's a good product to bring people into the game with - that's a million times more important than the value of a handful of singles.
I joined MTG with a few boxes of duskmourn, but am hoping to learn how to play. I know packs like these receive mixed community reactions, but as a new player I am excited to get this pack to have a starter deck I can build out from.
It's a great box for a new player! Welcome to the game, try to ignore the ranting online (mine included) at the end of the day it's a great game and a lot of fun!
I haven’t played MTG since Nemesis. I was big time into it from Beta up to Nemesis, but all of my cards are oldies. (I still have them all at least) I have bought a few pre con commander decks but I want more selection. This box looks great to me! Anxious to get my hands on it! Thanks for the video.
Had tons of mtg cards then they got stolen when my house was broken into! Recently got back into it and think this will be a great start!!!! $50 for 350 plus cards! Hell yeah!
This is Great for a New Player starting out. Some good cards in there. I have just about every card in there. For a card shop selling singles yea that can hurt. Then again getting more new players is more business.
As a new player I've been watching all of the videos regarding Foundations because the packs look pretty good to me but I see lots of people complaining and even recommending me not to buy these bundles and just go for separate cards... But I just want to build a deck I like and be able to play with my husband hahaha is that too much to ask? Anyway, thanks for the video!! I think I'll add this box to the Christmas tree 🌲
I’m a new player (started when Bloomburrow came out). I started with Bloomburrow, Duskmourn, Lord of the Rings, Battle for Zendikar, and soon this, when I can afford it.
These non foundation cards labeled as foundations will hold a premium yet most people will think they’re junk or they’ll get overplayed sleeveless. They’ll hold future value, like the family event party box cards
I thought that this product is supposed to enable you to build decks for standard and that is how I intended to use it. But seeing that each card is only there once that plan is off the table
It's a good value for new players, but it's not that much value over all. I think the most expensive card is Aurelia and she was down to $5 during Double Masters 2022 - Aftermath.
Why is everyone always extreme in either direction. This is a fantastic middle ground product. They put some juice in here to make it worth the money, which will bring in more players.
I'm very new to magic and started out in commander I"ve seen many comments saying that this starter collections is worth it but I would like to know if i were to build a commander deck out of this how strong would it be?
It's made to build standard decks not commander, but there are some commander staples in it so it's good for basic starting points maybe, but if you're a new commander player I would recommend buying precon decks and upgrading those instead.
I'm definetly gonna get at least one of these. Actually I think the 1st shipments of these will be sold out pretty quickly. Maybe the booster displays will as well. I love that they put dividers in the box, and I love that you get all those regular Rebecca Guay basics. And that Jim Nelson forest is my favorite forest. I don't mind that they've re-printed it so many times hehe.
If the margins on this product are better for LGS stores (wishful thinking maybe), then I strictly love this product. If not, then I'm happy for the new player and remorseful for the LGSs pressured into secondary market to make rent.
Glad to see card values annihilated. I like games that are fun to play, not because of some arbitrary gamepiece value. Gambling activates dopamine.. great. Get your dopamine hits elsewhere. Lol
in all seriousness, who the F care about "card value?" Dumbest thing ever tbh. The cheaper the cards the better for everyone. It's a card game, NOT an investment. Just look at all the extreme losers that got mad when the recent cards were banned in commander for example. The absolute bottom of the barrel losers that got the idea about the game completely wrong. Buying overpriced staples is such a burden. This stating box is probably one of the best products they have made in a long time. Fully welcoming and embracing new players and setting a staple for what to expect within magic.
@@oldschoolmtg are you kidding me? wtf? Anyone wanting to PLAY spend the money required to do so at a reasonable level. And the only thing preventing that are overpriced singles or cards in general. This value deal is immensely amazing. the only people mad about expensive cards and losing money are the whales and they have no right to be mad if they chose to pay for overpriced singles in the first place. Competative players already are aware of this and it's a risk they have to expect buying into cards that can very well get banned, and as we know, rotate out. So it is a very well expected thing to need to keep buying overpriced singles.
@@DuraheLL Would you pay $25,000 for a $500 car? $2,000 for a $50 bike? $100 for a loaf of bread? Nobody is going to spend $130 on a booster box of MTG worth $15, not even beginners. If there was no value in the cards, the game would die.
@@oldschoolmtg Sorry I think what you're saying is absolutely some of the most incoherent things in a long time. You can't say it's bad cards if your argument was that "they will not be worth anything anymore". That means there ARE impactfull and good cards. 50$ for 400+ cards is a great deal. It's a starter kit. Everything needed to get going and a good base line. Great great deal and many fine impactfull cards. So you're saying a new player looking into magic and wanting to start would rather buy a box with one single black lotus...? Than a library of "make your own deck" kit like this? You made exaggerated examples so I do too. The price is fine. Really solid and you already said the cards were really good and were valuable and that's why you got worried in the first place. Do you think a player want fun/impactful cards or expensive ones? What would it cost to buy all the cards from the starter collection if you bought them all seperately? Yeah, think about that one.
You are just wrong. The cards being rare to open gives value to them. Its the TRADING part of TCG. There are plenty of just Card games out there if people want those.@@DuraheLL
This set is making a lot of people who treat this game like a financial investment mad. And it's a very good sign. Im glad that this will likely bring down the prices of many cards
The people you mention are just stupid (investment people that get mad)
as a cardshop owner, i'm glad to see more products that are actually meant to bring new players into the game. That, in the long run, will be a better value for us, and for the players, and even for the game.
I remember the days of the deckbuilder toolkit. Those were fun.
All of this reprint are GREAT!! The weirdness around "running the value of these cards into the ground" is so odd when this is meant to be a card game that you actually play. MTG's main focus is NOT being a collectable TCG, I'm so glad that they're getting more cards out so people can play with them!! ⭐
Magic the Gathering. Its in the name bro. Yes its a game but these cards need to hold some value inorder for people to have fun chasing and collecting. If a new TCG comes out and all the cards are below 2$, the game would die fast
If they hold no collectible value then why are we paying $200 for a box of cards. If all bulk bin then a box should be more like $60. As you pointed out, it's just cardboard.
@@entertainmentinc9735 That's what I think the alternative treatments are for. Pokemon is doing fine with them.
I think the WOTC has actually finally got it almost right with stuff like the Raised-Gold-Foils in Bloomburrow, but they made it Collector's only which really limits who gets to collect, and the prices are insane.
@@papagarougethat’s just you buddy, make bad financial decisions while I play with my proxies.
@@DeftRevanNope I'm not buying ,this is where I get off. I'm sure your playing with a full deck of proxies lol
Cards game made to be played and have fun, I'm just happy if those card value go down. Need more reprint and set like this. I personally own multiple cards of this set and I don't care because ... it's paper. Thanks for sharing, I hope news players will grab it.
For you and me it may not mean much, but the person making this video runs a card store. Card stores need cards to maintain some value in order for them to make money and remain open.
@@Cyber1zedit also works if the bundle itself sells well because it is good value. Doesn't always have to be singles.
@@Cyber1zed Games need a healthy balance of old players and new players to work, if you ponzi scheme off the "investors" you'll be left with the sack sooner rather than later see all crypto scams. A card store than can't business shouldn't exist and a card store that relies on single prices is led by stupid.
then why not just print fake cards who care right? got 8 black lotus in my deck who care its just a game why count point? who care the basic is just to have fun right? everyone is a winner yeah!
Given the set is gonna be standard for 5 years, it's most likely a big print run, which will help keep the price down a bit.
Deckbuilder's Toolkits needed to come back- there hasn't been a good instant-collection option for years now. This looks like an excellent addition.
Can't make anyone happy, they will complain when you put good cards in product like this, or will complain if you fill it with bulk rares. I was glad to see wizards put some decent reprints in here. And long term I think they end up holding. Did you know there are some cards that were put in FREE welcome packs that stores could get over and over that still have significant value over bulk?
We should be happy there's a good product to bring people into the game with - that's a million times more important than the value of a handful of singles.
I joined MTG with a few boxes of duskmourn, but am hoping to learn how to play. I know packs like these receive mixed community reactions, but as a new player I am excited to get this pack to have a starter deck I can build out from.
It's a great box for a new player! Welcome to the game, try to ignore the ranting online (mine included) at the end of the day it's a great game and a lot of fun!
I wish I had this when I started.
I haven’t played MTG since Nemesis. I was big time into it from Beta up to Nemesis, but all of my cards are oldies. (I still have them all at least) I have bought a few pre con commander decks but I want more selection. This box looks great to me! Anxious to get my hands on it! Thanks for the video.
Just got this yesterday but saving to play with a friend! If is an awesome product for us newbies
For someone starting out looks like a great bundle. Some good cards in it.
Wow. I will definitely grab this. So surprising! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great video always enjoy the new products shown off here on the channel
Had tons of mtg cards then they got stolen when my house was broken into! Recently got back into it and think this will be a great start!!!! $50 for 350 plus cards! Hell yeah!
Can't wait for this set to release!
Waiting on my box to arrive. Im a new player. Pretty excited.
Yeah I remember the deck builders toolkit. I bought one in 2014. Singles for me
This is Great for a New Player starting out. Some good cards in there. I have just about every card in there. For a card shop selling singles yea that can hurt. Then again getting more new players is more business.
money should not be a barrier to entry, it's a card game
im glad i preordered one of these. i dont pick mine up until Friday.
Just started to get into magic. This feels way better than the crap Yu-Gi-Oh has been pulling lately.
As a new player I've been watching all of the videos regarding Foundations because the packs look pretty good to me but I see lots of people complaining and even recommending me not to buy these bundles and just go for separate cards... But I just want to build a deck I like and be able to play with my husband hahaha is that too much to ask? Anyway, thanks for the video!! I think I'll add this box to the Christmas tree 🌲
I ordered one of these just for the clickwheel. Thanks Dan
I’m a new player (started when Bloomburrow came out). I started with Bloomburrow, Duskmourn, Lord of the Rings, Battle for Zendikar, and soon this, when I can afford it.
Best Starter set in the history of MtG 10/10!
The cards are the same in all the starter collections?? Thanks to show!
These non foundation cards labeled as foundations will hold a premium yet most people will think they’re junk or they’ll get overplayed sleeveless.
They’ll hold future value, like the family event party box cards
I thought that this product is supposed to enable you to build decks for standard and that is how I intended to use it. But seeing that each card is only there once that plan is off the table
Im ordering this right now😂
Looks great!
A sub 50 usd msrp and even enfranchised players will get them
It's a good value for new players, but it's not that much value over all. I think the most expensive card is Aurelia and she was down to $5 during Double Masters 2022 - Aftermath.
Excellent product, i want one.
After having all of my cards I built up over years stolen on me a couple years ago....never bought anymore.... This makes me want to go back.
7:09 sums up this video. Good for the games reach, but bad for the trading card game economy.
as someone who just got back into magic after a 10 year break, should I grab this?
I would recommend it, it's great value loaded with playable staples for building decks.
Why is everyone always extreme in either direction. This is a fantastic middle ground product. They put some juice in here to make it worth the money, which will bring in more players.
Now _that's_ 60 bucks worth of cardboard!
This set is low key commander foundations 😂
I'm very new to magic and started out in commander I"ve seen many comments saying that this starter collections is worth it but I would like to know if i were to build a commander deck out of this how strong would it be?
It's made to build standard decks not commander, but there are some commander staples in it so it's good for basic starting points maybe, but if you're a new commander player I would recommend buying precon decks and upgrading those instead.
@@oldschoolmtg TY
I ordered x2 of this to support Wotc 😅
I want one of these.
2:51 _"Beeping thing!"_ *car alarm sfx*
Is this out yet?
Not yet. Pre-release starts this friday :)
I'm definetly gonna get at least one of these. Actually I think the 1st shipments of these will be sold out pretty quickly. Maybe the booster displays will as well.
I love that they put dividers in the box, and I love that you get all those regular Rebecca Guay basics. And that Jim Nelson forest is my favorite forest. I don't mind that they've re-printed it so many times hehe.
Niceeeeee box
Massacre Wurm 🔥
Other box will have same cards or random ?
same
@@georgelidiotis4763 EV = MSRP ?
how did you get yours so early before release?
I own a game store, we have to open a bunch of the products early in order to get the singles sorted to sell at release.
the reprints is y they priced at the price they did they will make bank off this
How are you getting these early ?
I own a game store, we have to open a bunch of the products early in order to get the singles sorted to sell at release.
If the margins on this product are better for LGS stores (wishful thinking maybe), then I strictly love this product. If not, then I'm happy for the new player and remorseful for the LGSs pressured into secondary market to make rent.
this is one the msrp products
Glad to see card values annihilated. I like games that are fun to play, not because of some arbitrary gamepiece value. Gambling activates dopamine.. great. Get your dopamine hits elsewhere. Lol
in all seriousness, who the F care about "card value?" Dumbest thing ever tbh. The cheaper the cards the better for everyone.
It's a card game, NOT an investment. Just look at all the extreme losers that got mad when the recent cards were banned in commander for example. The absolute bottom of the barrel losers that got the idea about the game completely wrong.
Buying overpriced staples is such a burden.
This stating box is probably one of the best products they have made in a long time.
Fully welcoming and embracing new players and setting a staple for what to expect within magic.
Even beginners don't want to spend $50 on a box of cards that's worth pennies. There has to be some value or nobody will actually want it.
@@oldschoolmtg are you kidding me? wtf? Anyone wanting to PLAY spend the money required to do so at a reasonable level.
And the only thing preventing that are overpriced singles or cards in general.
This value deal is immensely amazing.
the only people mad about expensive cards and losing money are the whales and they have no right to be mad if they chose to pay for overpriced singles in the first place.
Competative players already are aware of this and it's a risk they have to expect buying into cards that can very well get banned, and as we know, rotate out. So it is a very well expected thing to need to keep buying overpriced singles.
@@DuraheLL Would you pay $25,000 for a $500 car? $2,000 for a $50 bike? $100 for a loaf of bread? Nobody is going to spend $130 on a booster box of MTG worth $15, not even beginners. If there was no value in the cards, the game would die.
@@oldschoolmtg Sorry I think what you're saying is absolutely some of the most incoherent things in a long time.
You can't say it's bad cards if your argument was that "they will not be worth anything anymore".
That means there ARE impactfull and good cards.
50$ for 400+ cards is a great deal.
It's a starter kit. Everything needed to get going and a good base line.
Great great deal and many fine impactfull cards.
So you're saying a new player looking into magic and wanting to start would rather buy a box with one single black lotus...? Than a library of "make your own deck" kit like this?
You made exaggerated examples so I do too.
The price is fine. Really solid and you already said the cards were really good and were valuable and that's why you got worried in the first place.
Do you think a player want fun/impactful cards or expensive ones?
What would it cost to buy all the cards from the starter collection if you bought them all seperately?
Yeah, think about that one.
You are just wrong. The cards being rare to open gives value to them. Its the TRADING part of TCG. There are plenty of just Card games out there if people want those.@@DuraheLL
Standard is dead. Don’t print commander cards for standard. Let that shit die lol