Relativity 108a: Schwarzschild Metric - Derivation

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  • @canyadigit6274
    @canyadigit6274 3 роки тому +151

    Tears of joy. I entered here not knowing what a metric even was and now am learning how to derive the Schwartz child metric via differential geometry. Thanks Chris 👍

    • @joesmith8288
      @joesmith8288 3 роки тому +11

      cringe

    • @universal69
      @universal69 3 роки тому +16

      @@joesmith8288 No u

    • @cosmicnomad8575
      @cosmicnomad8575 2 роки тому +5

      The joy of learning

    • @dritemolawzbks8574
      @dritemolawzbks8574 Рік тому +6

      ​​@@joesmith8288 Don't be jealous of him learning tensor calculus before you.
      EDIT: Oops. I just read that part about "tears of joy." I've got to retract my statement.

    • @mikevaldez7684
      @mikevaldez7684 Рік тому +4

      @@dritemolawzbks8574 Ok sissy🤣🙋🙏

  • @Richard.Holmquist
    @Richard.Holmquist 3 роки тому +17

    Chris, the clarity of your videos, and your don’t skip the hard stuff rigor, have not only made an understanding of the Einstein field equations accessible to a seriously curious high school senior and certainly to a similarly curious college undergraduate, but also you have shown them the mathematical tools needed to solve the equations rather than simply a magical formula at the end.
    The only comparison I can think of are the Feynman lectures on physics.
    If there were an equivalent Nobel or Fields prize for what you have done to demystify for young students (any age, really)the many hang points of just partial understanding so common in normal teaching, you deserve that prize.

  • @tobiasbendix8698
    @tobiasbendix8698 4 місяці тому +6

    Hello Chris! I recently graduated high school, and your videos on general relativity played a crucial role. In Denmark, every high school student must complete a special study project (SRP) during their final year. The project has to be at least 15 to 20 pages long and research a self-selected topic. I chose to focus my project on "The Derivation of the Schwarzschild Metric and Black Holes" (my physics teacher thought it might be challenging but not impossible for me to tackle).
    Thanks to your videos, I was able to grasp complex concepts and present them effectively in my project. During the oral exam, where I had to defend my written work, both examiners were thoroughly impressed and commented that it might be the best project they had ever seen. Many thanks to you and your invaluable videos, Chris!
    And by the way, my physics teacher and I are now your biggest fans after watching your videos almost on loop the last few months :-)

  • @warfyaa6143
    @warfyaa6143 3 роки тому +36

    This channel is simply one of the most valuable things I've ever found not just on UA-cam, but on the whole holly internet,
    And I literally mean it.

  • @m_bm_a7884
    @m_bm_a7884 3 роки тому +8

    The best courses of GR I have ever seen !! Thank you !!

  • @lanimulrepus
    @lanimulrepus 3 роки тому +5

    You've obviously put a heck-of-lot of thought, time, and energy into this fine video... Enjoyed it...

  • @gdmsave
    @gdmsave 10 місяців тому +2

    There is a typo on timestamp 15:50 and corresponding slide #54 from the presentation. In the bottom line g22 is non-zero. Thank you for wonderful lecture!

  • @srmxe417
    @srmxe417 3 місяці тому +1

    This Mr. Schwarzschild figured out Einstein's method in a couple months? Sitting in a trench with bullets overhead?? What a man! As are you Chris, thanks

  • @brendank3136
    @brendank3136 3 роки тому +65

    I understand it will be a lot of work for you, but covering the kerr metric in the future would be extremely helpful. There are little to no derivations i can find for that metric online and most GR lectures skip over the derivation and jump right into using it.

    • @ericbloodwoth1290
      @ericbloodwoth1290 3 роки тому +10

      100% agree for how important the kerr solution is for astrophysics it's poorly described in popular media

    • @alwaysdisputin9930
      @alwaysdisputin9930 3 роки тому

      I agree it's really needed & important but I dunno if it's possible to do it without e.g. NoahExplainsPhysics derivation of time translation symmetry = energy conservation: it's done in a very formula heavy way that means he only has 2.9k views. So PLEASE do the Kerr metric as no one else does it but please try to present it in a more palatable, mainstream way? I dunno how one would go about doing this.

    • @marcossidoruk8033
      @marcossidoruk8033 3 роки тому

      the thing is that the derivation of the kerr metric is absolutely diabolic, it took literally decades to figure it out, and considering that as you say, it is important, that is pretty scary.
      So no, of course you won't find "mainstream" derivations, such thing does not exist, I would look the original papers if you really still want a derivation.

    • @dritemolawzbks8574
      @dritemolawzbks8574 Рік тому

      A lot of viewers are more interested in retracing Einstein's path to learning Special relativity, equivalence principle, tensor analysis, and using the weak-field approximation to derive Newtonian gravity.
      The complete GR solutions from Schwarzschild and Friedman are very useful, but it's well above the mathematical abilities of a person not enrolled in a physics graduate program.
      The more advanced gravitational models with frame dragging, measurable gravitational waves, and black hole rotations are done by computer programs.
      The first approximation used by Einstein to recover Newton's theory of gravity and confirm the precession of Mercury's orbit, the gravitational deflection of light, and a gravity law that propagates at the speed of light were enough for Einstein and Hilbert to publish their field equations in 1915.

    • @mikevaldez7684
      @mikevaldez7684 Рік тому +1

      @@alwaysdisputin9930 if you "don't know" then how the hell can you be advising him you dodo??! Keep your mouth shut🙋🙏

  • @greenguo1424
    @greenguo1424 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Chris. I was looking at Schwarzschild metric derivation yesterday and the only thing I could find was a 3-part series after watching which I was more confused. Chris to the save today! Thank you again and Google for keeping tabs of what I saw.

  • @demostheneslocke1229
    @demostheneslocke1229 3 роки тому +5

    Btw if you want to make your matrices look better you can just add in blank rows to fix the non aligning issue

  • @KuhWristChin
    @KuhWristChin Рік тому

    its amazing how we can freely access this level of information

  • @nikolaalfredi3025
    @nikolaalfredi3025 3 роки тому +1

    I am very excited for the new journey, I have always looked forward to it. I also have completed all of the Tensor series and as well as general relativity series... Now I will go beyond it. Thanks for uploading this video.

  • @joshuapasa4229
    @joshuapasa4229 3 роки тому +6

    Great video! For the section where you are finding the constant k, how can you make the equivilence that - 2GM/rc^2 = k / r when you changed coordinates for r in the derivation r = sqrt(C)r? Thanks

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +6

      That honestly slipped my mind. I'll have to think about that. I think the difference in r-coordinates only becomes apparent close to the Schwarzschild radius. For the earth the Scharzschild radius is only 1cm or so, so there's no real difference. The sun's r_s is make 3km, so again no real difference. I'll talk about that in 108b.

    • @joshuapasa4229
      @joshuapasa4229 3 роки тому

      @@eigenchris Thank you! I never really got a satisfactory explanation for that.

  • @MillenniumGravity
    @MillenniumGravity Рік тому

    Cool explanation! Thank you! Could you tell in which literature the introduction of the function C(r) is described to satisfy spherical symmetry (time 10:10, slide number 28 in PP presentation)?

  • @monsurrahman7663
    @monsurrahman7663 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you, I have been waiting for your video

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876
    @jensphiliphohmann1876 Рік тому

    08:00: It's actually _Killing vector_ (with capital 'K') because the vectors don't take any lifes but are named after the German mathematician Wilhelm Killing (1847-1923).

  • @steffenleo5997
    @steffenleo5997 2 роки тому +1

    Happy New Year 2023 Chris. All the Best for you and your family. Thanks a lot for all the videos you make to cover tensoralgebra and cosmology...👍👍🙏

  • @chimetimepaprika
    @chimetimepaprika 2 роки тому

    Daaaaaamn, nice presentation, dude. I gotta watch this a few more times.

  • @jankriz9199
    @jankriz9199 2 роки тому

    BTW: About staticity of the metric - the only assumption you can go into the derivation with is spherical symmetry (and that einstein equations hold).
    a] The linear angular components of the metric dtheta, dphi will vanish as the spacetime separation must not be dependent on direction of angels you travel by. The g_tr and g_rt components must also be zero at least on the coordinate origin - as the radial geodesics begin there, perpendicular to time geodesics.
    Then you look at geodesic equation which tells you that Gamma^mu_rr is zero, which can be expressed in terms of metric components and due to some symmetries in the formula it follows that g_(mu)r,t =0, so the geodesics remain perpendicular everywhere.
    Recap: Angles cannot be represented linearly, g_tr component is also zero due to the fact that it is zero at the origin and this property can be stretched, so only remaining components are the diagonal ones.
    Metric is diagonal!
    (note: only vanishing of the linear dt terms in metric would be sufficient, we however have diagonality which is much stronger).
    b] Now one introduces the diagonal metric form into EFE.
    You go the usual route with general (now diagonal) metric: metric -> christoffel -> riemann -> ricci tensor (and ricci scalar = 0 we know that already) -> einstein tensor = 0
    From the G^0_1 component of einstein tensor one learns immidiately that the g_rr,t = 0 and further on with some math juggling one learns from G^0_0 that it should be proportional to inverse of g_rr => it also does not depend on time (or rather the constant of proportionality can depend on time only -> can be some function f(t) which can later on be hidden into scaling time coordinate instead of the metric).
    So the metric does not depend on time from einstein equations and does not contain linearly dt (spacetime interval does not depend on the direction of time) as the metric is diagonal from geometry => it is static.
    I know this is a bit nitpicky and im not even trying to correct anyone, just saying it as an interesting caviat for some of the more advanced viewers. I usually visit this channel quite regularly as I get to recap some of my previous lectures and I always draw some inspiration and new insight here so thanks a bunch!

  • @jianqiuwu
    @jianqiuwu 3 роки тому +1

    Question: How does the Ricci Scalar being zero imply the Ricci tensor being zero? (4:10) Isn't Ricci Scalar a sum of R^i_i?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +2

      In theory, it's possible to have a geometry where R=0 but R_μν is not zero. But if we are constrained by the Einstein field equations, and are in a vacuum where T_μν=0 (and also take the cosmological constant to be zero), then R=0 and R_μν = 0 are equivalent conditions.

    • @jianqiuwu
      @jianqiuwu 3 роки тому +1

      @@eigenchris Thanks! I see. There's one more step: after R vanishes from the EFE, all the terms go to zero except for the first term. Thus R_μν must also vanish.

  • @pacolibre5411
    @pacolibre5411 10 місяців тому

    4:10 how do you go from saying that the trace of the Ricci Tensor is 0, to the claiming that each entry must be zero? Is that derivable from the symmetries of the Ricci tensor? I tried watching your Tensor Calculus videos to find an explanation, but I couldn’t find one.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  10 місяців тому +2

      If you look back at the Einstein Field Equations at the top of the slide, and plug in R=0, Lambda=0, Tuv=0, you get Ruv=0.

  • @jigold22571
    @jigold22571 3 роки тому +1

    Thank You so very much for sharing and posting.

  • @I_am_Dipanjan
    @I_am_Dipanjan Рік тому

    17:39 ,Great video! But I have a question, How are we justifying that the first 3 diagonal Ricci tensor components become zero?

  • @imaginingPhysics
    @imaginingPhysics 3 роки тому

    8:50 so static metric implies the time axis is orthogonal to the space axes.
    Cool. Good to keep in mind.

  • @soroushzare6991
    @soroushzare6991 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the great work you did. It is possible to make a video about extracting torsion from metrics (the line element) that describe the topological defect space-time. For example, the extracting torsion from the line element describes a kind of dislocation in space-time.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +1

      This is the first I've heard of this concept. I'm not familiar with it at all. I probably won't be making a video on it. Do you know where I can read more?

    • @soroushzare6991
      @soroushzare6991 3 роки тому

      @@eigenchris The metric can have curvature or torsion or both of them. If you wish, I can email you a series of resources and articles in this context.

  • @beagle1008
    @beagle1008 3 роки тому

    similarly,in 22:35 ,should it not be in the 3rd line, - rdrB/B^2

  • @canyadigit6274
    @canyadigit6274 3 роки тому +2

    Could we potential derive the orbits of the earth around the sun using general relativity? Or does no analytic solution exist?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +6

      My plan is to do that in 108c (not for earth specifically, but any mass in a Schwarzschild spacetime). I'm pretty sure the solution is analytical. But the solution is very similar to the Newtoniam result unless you're very close to the mass. Basically the gravitational potential gets an extra 1/r^3 term that goes to zero very quickly as r gets big.

  • @mikamikamusic7792
    @mikamikamusic7792 Рік тому

    24:20 when I find the solution to the equation I get k/r - 1, I dont know if I did something wrong but I inputed the equation into different calculators and got the same thing. If you read this can you please show me your solution for the equation

    • @Mysoi123
      @Mysoi123 Рік тому

      dA/dr = (-A+1)/r
      dA/dr/(-A+1) = 1/r
      ∫ = dA/dr/(-A+1) dr = ∫ 1/r dr
      Evalute the integrals we get :
      -log(-A(r) +1) = log(r) + C_1
      => A(r) = -e^(-C_1)/r + 1
      A(r) = -k/r +1 = 1 - k/r

  • @nenhard
    @nenhard 11 місяців тому

    29:20 What if value φ at infinity is not zero but some very small number ε(M)?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  11 місяців тому

      The curvature of spacetime only depends on the derivatives of the metric, not the actual metric value. So I don't think small additive numbers like this change the physics.

    • @nenhard
      @nenhard 11 місяців тому

      ​@@eigenchris we can eliminate this constant by selecting a different scale. So no new physics, like you said.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  11 місяців тому

      @@nenhard I should maybe be a bit more careful... the metric itself does appear in the Einstein Field Equations, but as long as we ignore the cosmological constant, and the Ricci scalar is zero, we don't need to worry about the constant.

    • @nenhard
      @nenhard 11 місяців тому

      Equations are nonlinear and contain product of metric and its derivates.

  • @MrFischvogel
    @MrFischvogel 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for explaining how the coefficient C becomes 1 :)

  • @Handelsbilanzdefizit
    @Handelsbilanzdefizit 3 роки тому +2

    Can you do the same for Robertson-Walker-Metric and Cosmology??? And explain, how it's related with Friedmann-Equations and all the dynamics/evolution of the universe.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +5

      That will be in the Relativity 110 videos that I hint at near the beginning.

  • @anantbadal6045
    @anantbadal6045 4 місяці тому

    You are assuming a static metric at 8:20. Can you also tell in which frame? Because we know time is relative and mixes up with space when changing frames. So if you assume a static metric, I can come up with a frame where it is no more static. Kindly also specify the frame where it is static, because it creates confusion.

  • @deeperunderground09
    @deeperunderground09 3 роки тому

    Hello Chris. I don't understand at 25:33 , fifth line equation, you have a contravariant left side and a covariant right side. How is that possible?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +1

      I was a bit "loose" with the indices here. To be technically correct, I would need a kronecker delta on one of the terms to raise/lower the index appropriately, so that everything matches. The kronecker delta doesn't actually change any of the values in the formula, it just puts the indices in the right place, so I left it out for simplicity. Sorry if that's confusing.

    • @deeperunderground09
      @deeperunderground09 3 роки тому

      Thank you for your answer Chris. Clear as usual. I'm getting great marks in GR thanks to you.

  • @RFQuantumLab
    @RFQuantumLab 9 місяців тому

    Would you consider making a video on the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff solution?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  9 місяців тому

      I've never heard of that one, so I'm not going to be much help. I'm focusing on my current series on spinors for now.

  • @nazganaie
    @nazganaie 6 днів тому

    I recommend you strongly to publish all what you have supplied here on youtube in a hard cover book

  • @rebollo5569
    @rebollo5569 2 роки тому

    Excellent video! Very clarifying, thanks you very much

  • @neEEEonng
    @neEEEonng Рік тому +1

    Hey, I dont understand this argument of "space is flat for infinite distance from the mass". This sounds like another axiom to me. Why are we allowed (or maybe even forced?) to use intuition in addition to the einstein field equations? Shouldnt we get this as a result, instead of having it as an assumption?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  Рік тому +1

      It's common when solving differential equations to specify "boundary conditions". Sometimes this means sepcifying the field at infinity. I think there would be similar requirements for, say, Maxwell's equations.

    • @nenhard
      @nenhard 11 місяців тому

      For EM field inverse square law was experimentally tested to a high accuracy. For gravity some people propose MOND, and while experiments are still inconclusive, Newtonian gravity better fits the data.

  • @beagle1008
    @beagle1008 3 роки тому

    is there an algebra mistake at 10:41 ? I get : - ( drA)^2 / 2A^2

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому

      Is 10:41 the correct timestamp? I'm having a hard time seeing what you mean.

  • @chritophergaafele8922
    @chritophergaafele8922 2 місяці тому

    When are releasing a one on the derivation of the Reissner-Nordstrom metric, and the Kerr metric

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  2 місяці тому

      Never, unfortunately. I looked into it and gave up because ot was pretty complicated. There are other channels that cover it.

  • @longsarith8106
    @longsarith8106 3 роки тому

    Really really really thank for your all video.

  • @vorperian_courses
    @vorperian_courses 3 роки тому

    Excellent presentations and explanations. Really appreciate it. Thank you.

  • @matejmizak7585
    @matejmizak7585 3 роки тому

    I just want to point out that, at 25:05, you spelled Newoton's instead of Newton's(and you are the best physics youtuber)

  • @official-zq3bv
    @official-zq3bv 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your video. I don't understand what "spherical symmetry" means for metric tensor. Like, normally if we want to say if sth is symmetric, we compare its values in different positions. But since covariant derivative of metric is zero when it is torsion-free, does that mean it's symmetric for all coordinates?

  • @BrynSCat
    @BrynSCat 3 роки тому

    If you use the mass energy equivalence for a single static charge,you know have a hole in hole in hole in hole with 360° twist,charge without charge,mass with out mass. A static charge is its own CP inverse .Until "The Particle Problem in the General Theory of Relativity" can be answered G.R. will always be incomplete.

  • @bishalbanjara2891
    @bishalbanjara2891 Рік тому

    If I wish to get A replaced in B and vice versa, in the same line element of schwarzschild , what are the turns and modifications I have to do to obtain so?

  • @chintanpatel1768
    @chintanpatel1768 3 роки тому +1

    I was looking for this specific topic form you 😁😁😁 thanks I really have learned a lot from your Channel 😊

  • @luce1F
    @luce1F 4 місяці тому

    How do you get 1-c/r when you solve that differential equation? I'm getting 1+c/r.

  • @nellvincervantes6233
    @nellvincervantes6233 2 роки тому

    Question sir. In the case of rotating black hole, time isnt orthogonal to spatial components, r, theta, phi so that g_mu*v can change under timd reversal t --> -t? g_ti --> -g_ti. If time is orthogonal to spatial components, then g_ti = 0 and hence g_mu*v wont change?

  • @patriciacosson144
    @patriciacosson144 3 роки тому

    It is a fantastic work congratulations you are the best teacher thank you for your hard work

  • @marcovillalobos5177
    @marcovillalobos5177 3 роки тому

    Best GR course ever

  • @kennethferrari1342
    @kennethferrari1342 3 роки тому

    1:07 🎶It’s better to burn out than to fade away!🎶

  • @fernandogarciacortez4911
    @fernandogarciacortez4911 3 роки тому

    As usual, what a beautiful video. Many thanks for taking the time to do them and share.
    Do you have any recommendations for someone who wants to learn more?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому

      You could take a look at Sean Carroll's notes on General Relativity. www.preposterousuniverse.com/grnotes/

    • @davidrandell2224
      @davidrandell2224 3 роки тому

      “The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “,Mark McCutcheon.

    • @gdmsave
      @gdmsave 10 місяців тому

      @@eigenchris There is a typo on timestamp 15:50 and corresponding slide #54 from the presentation. In the bottom line g22 is non-zero. Thank you for wonderful lecture!

  • @alvarodemontes3818
    @alvarodemontes3818 3 роки тому

    Excellent video. Extremely clear and didactic. Thank you very much.
    By the way,@24'32 A(r) shouldn't be with the form A(r) ) = 1 - k/(r + constant ) ?

  • @divvy1400yam600
    @divvy1400yam600 Рік тому

    The Einstein equation is said to PROVE that the mass/energy Tensor on the RHS of the equation leads to the bending of space time and creates the resultant paths of bodies as they traverse space time
    It does NO such thing.
    What it does is first to describe bodies moving through flat space and then develop the changes required , by very complex partial derivatives , with other Tensors using the same method , to conclude that the RHS of equation produced curved space time as indicated by the LHS
    ie it as essay in reasoning of Einstein using complex maths as the support.
    For example as a practical error ; when the bending of light by gravity was measured the results were completley different depending on where the measurement took place.

  • @lac19951
    @lac19951 Рік тому

    Can we define the distortion of space time for a non rotating object of a different shape?

  • @ShadowZZZ
    @ShadowZZZ 3 роки тому +1

    This is beautiful. Thank you

  • @mikamikamusic7792
    @mikamikamusic7792 Рік тому

    is there a name for the h metric in the weak gravity limit

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  Рік тому +1

      Some people call it the "metric perturbation". Sorry for the delay. I guess I missed the notification for your comment.

  • @comoenclase
    @comoenclase 15 днів тому

    Absolutely amazing

  • @namesurname1040
    @namesurname1040 3 роки тому +1

    The thing that confuses every time I see this derivation is what we mean when we say spherical symmetry ,I didnt really get that .Also amazing video!

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +2

      It basically means we can rotate the space part of spacetime around the center of mass and see no change.

    • @namesurname1040
      @namesurname1040 3 роки тому

      @@eigenchris Thank you for your quick answer!

  • @CorbeeWong
    @CorbeeWong Рік тому

    Hi there, at 15:50, I think you crossed out the wrong term! I looked like you kept -d2g12 but you actually kept d1g22, otherwise fantastic video!

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 3 роки тому +1

    Isn’t it easier to compute the Chrisoffel symbols by deriving the geodesic equation rather than computing the formula with the metric

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому

      Sorry, I don't follow. I would have figured you'd need to already know the christoffel symbols to use the geodesic equation in any meaningful way.

    • @cameronspalding9792
      @cameronspalding9792 3 роки тому +1

      @@eigenchris When I did my exams: I was told of a method of computing the connection coefficients that didn’t involve using the formula: it involved writing out the Lagrangian and then computing the geodesic equation using the Euler Lagrange equations: the connection coefficients would then be deduced via the geodesic equations
      My teacher always preferred this method then using the general formula, they thought it was much less fidly

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +1

      @@cameronspalding9792 I'm not so familiar with Lagrangian methods. If you have a link to a page that explains this method, I could take a look.

    • @jimbussey1888
      @jimbussey1888 Рік тому

      people.uncw.edu/hermanr/GRcosmo/euler-equation-geodesics.pdf

  • @beagle1008
    @beagle1008 3 роки тому

    at 21:47 you have got :( (drA)^2/ 2A^2 ) - ((drA)^2/4A^2).... so I make this to be equal to ( - (drA)^2/ 2A^2 ). I hope that I am not wasting your time!

  • @Timmerdetimmerdetim
    @Timmerdetimmerdetim 3 роки тому

    Can anyone help me out because I'm grapling with a thought experiment of mine: an object falls freely towards a pointlike large mass in a (hence curved) 1+1D spacetime, its worldline will look like an osillation - lets say it falls through a tunel because just hey, let's suppose. That oscillation is a geodesic of the curved n+1D (i.e. 3D) shape, isn't it? We should be able to imagine that very shape, should we not? So, if existing at all, what does it look like and if not, where am I getting things so terribly wrong?

  • @Considerationhhh
    @Considerationhhh 2 роки тому

    Waiting attentively for your 108d and e 😇🌹

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 3 роки тому

    Can you do some videos as to how you do tensor related stuff with complex functions

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +1

      I'm not sure what I would say about this topic. Did you have a particular application in mind?

    • @cameronspalding9792
      @cameronspalding9792 3 роки тому

      @@eigenchris Mainly the differences between complex manifolds and real manifolds

  • @narfwhals7843
    @narfwhals7843 2 роки тому

    You say we "assume" that spacetime approaches mincowski space as r goes to infinity. Is that really an assumption or is that a result? I've been thinking about whether this is a boundary condition and found somewhat conflicting information on it. One article says it is a basic premise of GR that spacetime can be modeled as a Lorentz Manifold. Another says Lorentz Manifolds are the vacuum solutions of the EFE.
    Do we take empty space to be Minkowski from observation or do the equations give it to us somehow?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking that proving A = 1/B requires the assumption that spacetime becomes flat as r goes to infinity. When you say "lorentz manifolds are the vacuum solutions of the EFE", I was under the impression that a "lorentz manifold" is just a manifold with a metric that can give negative values, and therefore all of spacetime (vacuum or not) would be a lorentz manifold. Empty space is definitely not always Minkowski... since the empty space around the earth is still curved due to its proximity to earth... The EFE only tell us that empty space is "Ricci Flat" (with a zero Ricci Tensor) but the Riemann Tensor can still be non-zero in the vacuum. From my point of view, the idea that spacetime is flat far away from mass is an extra assumption, but I haven't investigated this deeply.

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 2 роки тому

      @@eigenchris Thanks for your reply.
      A Lorentzian Manifold has a signature with one opposite sign. And I suppose the simplest one would be Minkowski. But does "flat" have to mean Minkowski? Or can we get a solution from assuming Euclidian space?
      I think my question is if we can get Minkowski spacetime as a solution of the EFE without assuming that it must be the result. Can we get Special Relativity from General Relativity? Or did we observe that our universe follows the framework of special relativity and use that as a boundary condition?
      One of the quotes that draw me to the elegance of GR is that it "assumes no prior geometry", so is assuming Minkowski spacetime as a "basis geometry" a feature of _our_ spacetime or of GR in general?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  2 роки тому +1

      @@narfwhals7843 I think "flat" and "minkowski" spacetimes are the same thing. But I have to admit I don't know of a way of "deriving" flat spacetime from the EFE... I've only seen it added on top of it as an additional assumption where (far from mass = flat spacetime).

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 2 роки тому

      @@eigenchris I'll keep thinking about this. I suppose you always have to make _some_ assumptions.
      Thanks for your thoughts :)
      On another note I find it absolutely baffling that we get away with describing spacetime with a set of equations that completely ignores half of the Riemann Tensor. _All_ of the curvature information in the Schwarzschild spacetime is in the part that isn't even in the equation. Shouldn't vacuum solutions use the Weyl Tensor instead? Solving 0=0 and getting a useful result seems so weird...

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  2 роки тому +1

      @@narfwhals7843 While the EFE are more complicated, conceptually I don't see them as being too different from Poisson's Equation or any of the 4 Maxwell equations, where the left side is a "field" and the right side is the "source". We don't expect vacuum spacetime to have zero curvature (since spacetime around the earth or any star is still curved), so it makes sense that a zero source term shouldn't "kill" all the curvature... it just kills that part that cause immediate volume changes (but still allows for the Weyl part that does the squeezing/squashing of tidal forces). That's just my intuition, but I haven't studied the Weyl tensor at all and can't say much else about the mathematics behind it.

  • @alancosta1988
    @alancosta1988 3 роки тому

    Great video as always. I cannot understand why if trade t por -t means that the body is non rotating. And why multiply some terms by C.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +1

      I didn't get into the details much... it might become more clear in later videos. A rotating black hole causes additional gravitational effects in the direction of rotation (you can google "ergosphere" to learn more). If we reverse the direction of time, these gravitational effects reverse. So if we force spacetime to be the same in both time directions, it guarantees no rotation.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому

      Also, we multiply time by c to give it units of distance, to put it on the same level as x,y and z.

  • @muhammedustaomeroglu3451
    @muhammedustaomeroglu3451 3 роки тому

    we are saying g_teta,phi = 0 so that g be similar to spherical coordinate metric. do you only try a g with g_teta,phi = 0 to see if it works or is there more mathematical background when we say g_teta,phi = 0.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +1

      The "mathematical reason" is that, if we take a constant time, and constant radius, we want the resulting shell surface to have the same geometry as an ordinary 2D spherical surface, by spherical symmetry. I don't think I have a better reason.

    • @muhammedustaomeroglu3451
      @muhammedustaomeroglu3451 3 роки тому

      @@eigenchris you are the best

  • @brianzaragoza4702
    @brianzaragoza4702 3 роки тому

    What a great vídeo, I loved it, thank You so much

  • @marcoder9
    @marcoder9 2 роки тому

    This is excellent!! Really useful

  • @JoeHynes284
    @JoeHynes284 3 роки тому

    who would ever dislike one of these videos?

  • @eigenphysics6155
    @eigenphysics6155 3 роки тому

    How much days later you will uplode 108b video?
    Because I'm waiting for extraordinary video.
    I'm your very big fan Chris.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому

      Thanks. It might be out by the end of October. Most of the slides are done, but there are some concepts I still don't understand, so I'll need to spend more time learning and fact-checking.

  • @RFQuantumLab
    @RFQuantumLab 2 роки тому

    30:15
    Knowing that 99.99999% of the ingredients of the material (mass) actually "contain" a vacuum.
    How then do you elegantly assume that the calculation is valid only outside the space domain of the mass?
    I am interested in discussing the subject with you because if r = 0 it is possible that in every planet there is a minimal black hole in the center that drives the system and is equally responsible for its formation.
    In my humble opinion, it's not so far fetched, because in each galaxy there is a massive black hole.

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  2 роки тому

      The density of the mass/energy of a planet or star is much higher than the space around it. The fact that you can argue that an atom is mostly empty space isn't so relevant. It's the density of mass that matters.
      Planets don't have a black hole inside them because the schwrazschild radius is smaller than their physical radius. If you look at a point inside the planet, all the mass outside the radius of that point basically "cancels out" with itself in terms of gravity, so you can no longer act like the schwarzschild radius for the entire planet's mass is relevant once you go inside. There's a solution called the "Interior Schwarzschild metric" that you can look at for this case.

    • @RFQuantumLab
      @RFQuantumLab 2 роки тому

      First of all I must point out to your credit that you managed to ignite the flame fire within me. You do sacred work in making knowledge accessible in a consistent, clear and brilliant manner. Unlike the way knowledge is obtained from professors in academia. And you know it. For a long time I wanted to deepen and take the study of relativity seriously, beyond my degree in electrical engineering.
      In addition, I am pleasantly surprised by the speed of response from you. This is completely non-trivial. And that's commendable on my part. And I said just about the tip of the iceberg. Thank you very much.
      In short, welcome to the Elite Club who do not receive enough appreciation and attention for their work. I sincerely hope that for you it will come soon. Because it's really just a matter of time and perseverance. The PhysicswithElliot channel is also in your state more or less I would say.
      So far I have come across inspirational channels for laymen + like:
      1). ua-cam.com/users/ScienceClicENvideos
      2). ua-cam.com/users/PhysicsExplainedVideosvideos
      3). ua-cam.com/users/Scienceasylumvideos
      4). ua-cam.com/users/ArvinAshvideos
      But unfortunately this is also a mixed blessing (like Veritasium) because it makes you think you understand them in depth and in fact - compromise on them without any practical calculation ability.
      Now regarding what we talked about earlier.
      I understood the first paragraph (or rather - I took it upon myself) because I do not really know what the deep meaning of "mass" or "charge" is, beyond the fact that they are actually primarily responsible for the bending of space-time. So it's not clear to me why you recorded that mass density or energy is what matters in the context that they cancel each other out of the radius. Maybe I should think about it a little more.
      Regarding the second paragraph. It is not a good argument in my eyes to disqualify what I have suggested, arguing that the Schwarzschild radius is smaller than their physical radius. This is because you assume a hidden assumption that the density of the stars is more or less the same from the shell to the core. We have good reason to believe this is not the case. And in this case I suggested - a Schwarzschild radius can actually fit for a high density, which is likely to be, in the core region. In addition, you also imply that the order of events is that: first the star and its dimensions are formed and only then does the black hole in the core appear, miraculously. But I said the opposite. I also have other good reasons to believe this is the case (such as: the strength of the magnetic field in the shell of the Earth, which is relatively high in relation to the distance from the core - by the way, a first order calculation also shows that if you aim the radius to the core area then the magnetic field is very huge)
      Or, rapid plasma bursts from the sun's escape velocity most surprisingly crash back inward in the form of an arc. In a high distribution in areas of sunspots, etc ..
      One way or another, I currently have no computational knowledge that can justify my argument. I've only been learning the subject for the last two weeks from you. So I have nothing smart to say beyond that. Just right now nice to talk about it with you. How about posting a video that explains "Interior Schwarzschild metric" and no less, also about its applications?
      PS: If this is acceptable to you, how can you be reached on social networks (Facebook, Instagram, gmail)? I want to show you a calculation I made and ask you about its meaning (search for: GM=tc^3)
      To be honest, I do not have a professional friend to develop a conversation with on these topics or even interested in it. In my high-tech job, it does not interest anyone and I have never been able to develop an interesting conversation with any purpose on these topics.
      Sorry if I extended too much in words.

    • @RFQuantumLab
      @RFQuantumLab 2 роки тому

      @@eigenchris
      I'm interested to hear your opinion on the matter :)

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  2 роки тому

      Sorry for the late reply. Some times I see a comment but then get distracted and forget to reply.
      For my 2nd paragraph... the concept of "Schwarzschild radius" is not a very "smart" or "complicated" concept. All it is, is a way to translate mass into a length. It doesn't take into account the distribution of mass over space or density variations. It's just mass-to-length, and that's it. If we have a bunch of mass concentrated in a point/singularity, the Schwarzschild radius is physically meaningful: it is a mathematical surface beyond which light can never escape. This radius is less meaningful if you look at mass distributed over space, where the mass is distributed outside the radius. If we look at the sun, the schwarzschild radius for the Sun's total mass is about 3km. But if we were to look at the mass inside the sun's core with a radius of 3km, that spherical chunk of sun is significantly smaller than the sun's total mass, and so the schwarzschild radius for that spherical chunk of sun will be extremely short. We can repeat that process of looking at smaller "chunks" over and over again, but there's not much physical meaning to it. It doesn't mean there is a black hole inside the sun.
      Also, are you implying that the black hole appeared first, and then the Sun appeared around it? I'm confused there, so please clarify.
      I don't have facebook or instagram. Maybe you can link me to a google doc with your calculations?

    • @RFQuantumLab
      @RFQuantumLab 2 роки тому

      @@eigenchris
      The full calculation is at your disposal: (You may view and comment the paper)
      (Sorry for the inconvenience, though UA-cam is keeps deleting my message because of this PDF address)
      Just Search for - cryptii nato phonetic alphabet - and copy-paste on the right window text.
      Thank you for your cooperation.
      Hotel Tango Tango Papa Sierra (Colon)(Slash)(Slash) Alfa Papa Papa Stop Lima Uniform Mike India November Papa Delta Foxtrot Stop Charlie Oscar Mike (Slash) Victor India Echo Whiskey Echo Romeo (Slash) Six Two Three Foxtrot Five Two Charlie Eight Eight Zero Bravo Nine Delta Echo Eight Four Delta Alfa Delta Seven Foxtrot Five Three One
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      GM=tc^3 predicts that the number and size of primordial Black Holes is much larger than previously thought. This leads to the question: where are they? One could be in the last place humans would look-beneath their feet!
      The Cassini spacecraft found that Saturn’s moon Enceladus gives off far more heat-about 6TW-than can be explained, and it is concentrated at the South Pole. The little moon’s interior is an excellent place to seek a Black Hole.
      Earth’s internal heat and magnetic field make the planet’s core another likely place for a small Black Hole - barely the size of a grain of sand' but weighing almost as much as the moon. (The earth is surrounded by a black hole - yes. millions of years ago earth would have formed around this black hole, just as a pearl forms around a grain of sand). That black hole would be responsible for generating Earth's internal heat which just causes volcanoes and earthquakes but has also caused our Islands to form and the black hole would also generate the magnetic field of Earth. All of this comes from the enormous amount of radiation (Hawking radiation).
      When scientists describe a star collapsing and suddenly turning into a black hole, they miss the fact that the black hole has always existed there. The "collapse" results from an imbalance between the internal pressures in the core (radiation) and the curvature in space-time, that is, an attraction towards the event horizon that actually fed from those objects that deviate from their stable trajectory around. it
      And about the varying G hypothesis that has been promoted by Dirac and others - a change in c is more plausible and fits the data.
      In reality, scientists attempting to determine the rate of expansion of the cosmos are inadvertently and unintentionally determining the rate of light's slowing down.
      P.S : When t was tiny c was enormous and the universe expanded in a Bang.
      Have a nice weekend !

  • @himanshuchaudhary5796
    @himanshuchaudhary5796 3 роки тому

    Sir I am requesting u Plzz provide this Ppt

  • @ffs55
    @ffs55 Рік тому

    Man, you are a stud

  • @jnk594
    @jnk594 11 місяців тому

    you are more than wonderful

  • @TeslaElonSpaceXFan
    @TeslaElonSpaceXFan 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir!

  • @giovannisilvadesouza6968
    @giovannisilvadesouza6968 3 роки тому +3

    muito bom fera sexta 3h37 da madruga vendo vc derivar a metrica de Schwarschild chapadão por puro prazer é nois um abraço do brasil !!!!

  • @lowersaxon
    @lowersaxon Рік тому

    I just stumbled into the video. I’m far from being competent in GRT but have some experience in mathematical modelling. The suprising fact is that obviously the mass/energy of our spherical star/planet has nothing to do with tensor T. How is that even possible? Why is there the „Newtonian“ constant G in front of T when Newtonian gravitation has to be imposed a posteriori onto the metric? This really seems a bit disappointing. So the field equations as they stand do not include the Newton case. What then is the sense of G in front of T when when gravity is not a force but the consequence of the bending of spacetime? Why? Why is our star not part of the energy-stress-tensor T (T11)? And what does that mean „low velocity and weak gravity“, who says that our star will cause „weak“ gravity and whose velocity is low? Which criterion makes gravity „weak“ a p r i o r i? Do we have to conclude that a little bit of energy, pressure and stress in T really is the cause of „strong“ gravity? Is that an empirical fact? How do you handle galaxies? And for velocity? Is the observers velocity at infinity (which in itself is nonsense) low? No, thats zero. So what velocity is low? Btw, in which sense is the star non-rotating, not rotating around his own axis?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  Рік тому

      The T=0 used in this video is only for the vacuum *surrounding* the earth, as I point out at 3:15. Since T is the generalization of the mass density, you can think of this as seeing mass density to zero outside the earth. Newtonian gravity is brought in at 24:47, when I force the potential from Newtonian gravity to match up with the results predicted in GR.
      If you're up for watching more, you can check out my "Relativity 107d" video on Newton-Cartan theory. This is a theory of Newtonian gravity that uses curved spacetime, and it makes the jump to GR much easier. The Einstein Equations are a generalization of Poisson's Equation, where the metric g replaces the gravitational potential, and the energy momentum tensor T replaces the mass density.
      If you want a solution that takes the interior of a star into account, you can google the "interior schwarzschild solution".
      I don't know if "weak" has a formal definition. It's basically a limit where relativistic effects are negligeable. So there is no time dilation either from large velocities, and we don't need to take non-Newtonian GR effects into account from large masses.
      Rotations are considered objective in relativity, because rotating bodies have centripetal acceleration (velocities are relativity but an rotating object fundamentally has non-inertial motion).

  • @tomgraupner171
    @tomgraupner171 3 роки тому

    YEAH!YEAH!YEAH! Thank you so much

  • @perekman3570
    @perekman3570 3 роки тому

    What happened to 106b and 106c? Those were planned, weren't they?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому +3

      I plan to make them eventually, but I've covered that content in my previous "tensors for beginners" videos so I've been less motivated to make them. Do you have any particular questions you want answered?

    • @perekman3570
      @perekman3570 3 роки тому

      @@eigenchris Maybe not, but I just remember looking forward to the next one after having seen 106a. But I can endure for a bit longer! :-)

  • @christophermichaelhart5685
    @christophermichaelhart5685 Рік тому

    Hi Eigenchris. I’m really enjoying all of you lectures. Is there any chance that you could post an entire derivation (including coordinate transformations) for Godels Universe and the Kerr-Newman solution? These are the only 2 that I don’t know. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @user-wu8yq1rb9t
    @user-wu8yq1rb9t 3 роки тому

    It would be a nice video. Thank you

  • @petergreen5337
    @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому

    ❤Thank you very much

  • @mauriziovarisco6469
    @mauriziovarisco6469 Рік тому

    Excellent!!!👍👍👍👏👏👏

  • @eletronica_do_airton
    @eletronica_do_airton 3 роки тому

    You are the best .

  • @beagle1008
    @beagle1008 3 роки тому

    sorry! I meant 21:41

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  3 роки тому

      I may need your help again to see the exact problem. After hours of looking at these slides, my brain becomes basically incapable of seeing errors if they exist. At 21:42 I see I'm doing (1/2) - (1/4), so a result of +(1/4) seems right. Is there a sign error earlier on?

  • @stationary.universe.initiative

    Gravity inside the black hole follows Newton's shell theorem. Gravity in the center of a black hole is zero.

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 3 роки тому

    Schwarzschild was born on 9 October 1873, this video was posted on 10 October 2021

  • @noelshaback7191
    @noelshaback7191 3 роки тому

    I like your funny words magic man

  • @cesarmaldonado734
    @cesarmaldonado734 3 роки тому

    Excellent.

  • @NEWDAWNrealizingself
    @NEWDAWNrealizingself 2 місяці тому

    THANKS !

  • @Astromagine
    @Astromagine 7 місяців тому

    amazing!

  • @robertengland8769
    @robertengland8769 7 місяців тому

    This stuff is interesting.

  • @TafakSir
    @TafakSir 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @juancarlossanchezveana1812
    @juancarlossanchezveana1812 8 місяців тому

    Amazing

  • @perdehurcu
    @perdehurcu 4 місяці тому

    Muhteşem.

  • @rogerblank5280
    @rogerblank5280 8 місяців тому +1

    "calculating is pretty boring but necessary... " 🧐 My question is, who is capable of checking all of your calculations?

    • @eigenchris
      @eigenchris  8 місяців тому

      You can look these coefficients up on wikipedia or any GR textbook. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivation_of_the_Schwarzschild_solution#Calculating_the_Christoffel_symbols

  • @Oylesinebiri58
    @Oylesinebiri58 3 роки тому

    Nice videos