The Geometry of a Black Hole

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  • Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
  • Gravity is said to be the curvature of space and time, but what does such curvature actually look like? In this video we explore the foremost solution to Einstein's equations -- the Schwarzschild solution -- in order to construct a concrete visualization of the spacetime manifold. Will this visualization grant us new insight into our higher-dimensional reality? The secrets of gravity are locked away... in The Geometry of a Black Hole.
    Contents:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:50 - The Schwarzschild Metric
    02:03 - The Schwarzschild Coordinates
    06:30 - Resizing Space and Time
    10:48 - Visualizing the Manifold
    12:07 - Motion on the Manifold
    14:14 - Reconstructing the Classical Gravitational Field
    15:02 - The Geometry of a Black Hole
    17:22 - Conclusion
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  • @RecoilTechno
    @RecoilTechno Рік тому +350

    As a regular PBS Spacetime et al. viewer I am glad to find this channel. I really like the more in-depth explanations and enjoy the way the animation is executed - helps me wrap my brain around these mind-melting subjects.

    • @triyanbhardwaj934
      @triyanbhardwaj934 Рік тому +2

      What channels come under "et al."? Looking for similar creators.

    • @RecoilTechno
      @RecoilTechno Рік тому +13

      @@triyanbhardwaj934 Fraser Cain (cosmology), ScienceClic(GR, physics), Isaac Arthur(futurism), History of The Universe (ASMR Space stuff), Wondrium (general & other science)

    • @triyanbhardwaj934
      @triyanbhardwaj934 Рік тому +2

      @@RecoilTechno Thank you :) Love HOTU btw

    • @trout3685
      @trout3685 Рік тому

      What did you learn here that you didn't know before?

    • @RecoilTechno
      @RecoilTechno Рік тому +1

      @@trout3685 I don’t really consider myself as knowledgeable on any of the subject matter, but for instance, this particular video features a more in-depth look at the mathematical aspects.

  • @Diaming787
    @Diaming787 Рік тому +382

    Every new video I watch about how the geometry of spacetime is constructed, I'm blown away for how Einstein came up with it!

    • @mastershooter64
      @mastershooter64 Рік тому +83

      Well...he didnt completely invent it, there is a field of mathematics that deals with all this called differential geometry that has existed since before einstein was even born, he used it (with the help of several other mathematicians) to formulate his brilliant ideas and make quantitative predictions

    • @peterdamen2161
      @peterdamen2161 Рік тому +5

      Unfortunately, the concept of spacetime is wrong 😞

    • @stomas4744
      @stomas4744 Рік тому +11

      @@peterdamen2161 really?

    • @peterdamen2161
      @peterdamen2161 Рік тому

      @@stomas4744 Really!

    • @Nosirt
      @Nosirt Рік тому +40

      @@peterdamen2161”I am withdrawing my theory on account of dr. Prof. Peter of UA-cam comments expert opinion.”- Abe Lincoln

  • @rhythmguild4333
    @rhythmguild4333 Рік тому +261

    I always struggled with maths yet I’m obsessed with physics. These videos are great. 🙂

    • @artdonovandesign
      @artdonovandesign 5 місяців тому +1

      I too would _love_ to be able to comprehend the inhumanity difficult math behind Black Holes, S.R. and G.R.

    • @miselfis
      @miselfis 4 місяці тому +7

      @@artdonovandesign Special relativity is pretty simple mathematically. You only really need to know algebra to understand it, and preferably also some basic differential and integral calculus, but it's not needed to understand the basic concepts.

    • @j.r.8176
      @j.r.8176 4 місяці тому +3

      I'm the opposite lol
      You can have a subject explained in physics terms and I understand nothing. The same subject explained in abstract mathematical terms and I have a much easier time of understanding it.

    • @Ernthir
      @Ernthir 4 місяці тому +2

      @@artdonovandesign "Inhumanity" is a noun. You can't use it as an adjective. Maybe "inhumanely" difficult mathematics. But it is strange to use that word here. Math doesn't have any motive that can be described as being inhumane. You could use the word "inhuman" maybe... If you want to use it to describe how "difficult" the math is would become "inhumanly difficult math".
      But who cares we know what you mean XD

    • @Micro-Moo
      @Micro-Moo 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Ernthir "Inhumanity is a noun". You are perfectly right. But the entire statement using "inhumanity" is also wrong semantically, and this semantic, and, I would say, methodological fallacy is even worse. Humanity is the attribute of the human. Frankly, every time I see the word "math" instead of "mathematics", I don't expect anything related to real mathematics. 🙂

  • @miinyoo
    @miinyoo Рік тому +115

    This is a brilliant visualization. The toughest thing to get your head around (which on its own isn't) is the transformation from Inertial coords to Accelerated coords and back again to demonstrate what's really going on. Otherwise, this makes perfect sense.

    • @andyhughes8315
      @andyhughes8315 Рік тому +6

      From a Linear Algebra perspective, I think its transforming the Inertial coordinate vector relative to a change of basis. Then viewing the inertial coords in the new basis. Dr. Trefor Bazett has a video about it here ua-cam.com/video/s4GC6zoULi0/v-deo.html

    • @TristanCleveland
      @TristanCleveland Рік тому +5

      Yes, that was a crucial beat, and it was a bit fudged. But otherwise excellent.

    • @tursinbayoteev1841
      @tursinbayoteev1841 16 днів тому

      At 9:42 is the ruler really seems to distant observer contracted when when proper distance increased? Isn't he mistaken?

  • @taramarielmt
    @taramarielmt Рік тому +51

    I followed immediately after watching! This is the most meaningful information I've found so far on youtube! I didn't have the opportunity to realize my dream of becoming an astrophysicist, but my obsession with learning about it has never gone away. I'm so grateful for science communicators who give others the opportunity to understand and learn!

    • @trout3685
      @trout3685 Рік тому

      Most meaningful information? Really? What is so meaningful? What did you learn that you didn't know before?

    • @alwaysdisputin9930
      @alwaysdisputin9930 Рік тому +3

      @@trout3685 This is what I said under DrBecky's video called 'JWST confirms MOST DISTANT galaxy!'
      _"@Dr Becky - did you see Dialect's vid 'The geometry of a BH'? It's interesting. What I learnt is: Greenland's too big on some maps but you can change it to the correct proportions by saying "shrink it here by a factor of 3.5 & here by 1.5" etc. In relativity there's a thing called a metric tensor which contains those destretchification numbers e.g. 3.5 & 1.5. Around a BH, space's stretched too much so if I am holding my banana, it'd become a spaghettified banana & the metric tensor says [your banana's stretched by a factor of 2000]"_

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 Рік тому

      You do not have to be PH.D'd t or ordained by some university to make an amazing discovery. Follow your heart and your dreams will come true.

    • @benjamink2398
      @benjamink2398 Рік тому +3

      @@trout3685 bro what are you on about lmao

    • @tursinbayoteev1841
      @tursinbayoteev1841 16 днів тому

      At 9:42 is the ruler really seems to distant observer contracted when when proper distance increased? Isn't he mistaken?

  • @caveman36
    @caveman36 Рік тому +138

    Each episode ends in a cliffhanger, getting you closer to but not quite there to the full picture. Absolutely amazing videos and the progression allows you to actually grasp the concepts easily.

    • @dialectphilosophy
      @dialectphilosophy  Рік тому +20

      Thank you for watching and glad it helped your understanding!

    • @Stargazer10255
      @Stargazer10255 Рік тому +6

      I guess the last episode will also end in a cliffhanger 'cause at some we stop knowing what the duck is happening

    • @tim40gabby25
      @tim40gabby25 Рік тому +1

      Even with sound off, subtitles on, this was beautifully clear. Well done.

    • @alexandrekassiantchouk1632
      @alexandrekassiantchouk1632 8 місяців тому

      Einstein's theories (both SR and GR) are 50-50 mix of reality and illusion. Reality of time dilation, illusion of objects and space bending. You might need to check story on Medium:
      Illusions of Einstein and Rotary Blades Curving

  • @nlee1943
    @nlee1943 Рік тому +13

    Thank you for the new video! Your team always does a great job balancing visual aids with careful explanations. It is hard to be so clear about a topic as nuanced as general relativity, so I appreciate the time and research you all put into the videos. Looking forward to the next ones!

  • @Bitzy
    @Bitzy Рік тому +16

    i’m watching this at 2am with barely a highschool understanding of math and i just wanted to say that the way you describe things is perfect! particularly the diagram with the hill. i felt that “aha” moment and this video is constructed in a way that i can actually understand the basics of what’s going on! fantastic job

  • @ScienceClicEN
    @ScienceClicEN Рік тому +120

    Fantastic video as always ! It left me eager to see you tackle the inside of a black hole, maybe in a next video ? I was thinking about how the scaling terms of the spacetime slices become imaginary under the horizon, and how this could be related to a rotation maybe ?

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Рік тому +7

      I've heard explanations claim that space and time flip inside the event horizon, which would actually be fairly consistent with a rotation like from i.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 Рік тому +3

      Check out PBS Spacetime channel. They've done a couple videos on that.

    • @nikgracanin6180
      @nikgracanin6180 Рік тому +17

      ScienceClick and Dialect are hands down the best non-uni level physics educational channels.

    • @davidgoldgruber8541
      @davidgoldgruber8541 Рік тому +7

      This embedding was invented by Rickard Jonsson, PhD, as far as I know. Can not give you a link, because YT deletes those comments instantly. He generalised this embedding to include the interrior and to the Reissner-Nordström-metric. I think that it is impossible to generalise it to Kerr or Gödel or anything 'rotating', but RN is very similar to Kerr.

    • @davidgoldgruber8541
      @davidgoldgruber8541 Рік тому +9

      The final boss of black hole visualisation/understanding is Donald Marolf's embedding into Minkowski. In my opinion, that is much better than that 'space is falling'/Gullstrand-Painlevé approach. I wanted to make a video on Donald's embedding, but am I lazy man :/ . I hope that eventually either you or maybe Dialect will make a video about it, to show its beauty to the greater public.

  • @maujo2009
    @maujo2009 Рік тому +16

    This video needs a sequel where you offer a visualization of the Spacetime of a black hole past its event horizon.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 Рік тому +1

      Check out PBS Spacetime channel. They have a few of those.

    • @tlldrkhndy
      @tlldrkhndy Рік тому +2

      Watch the SciencClic episode of how Time and Space switch when you enter a black hole.

    • @Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus
      @Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus Рік тому +2

      Anyone who does offer such a visualization is basing it off of unfinished data or a broad generalization based on our understanding of physics, considering the physics we know breaks down past the event horizon. It'd be like asking someone to create a visualization of God, which is impossible.

    • @xaverstenliz8466
      @xaverstenliz8466 Рік тому +2

      if he can, he get the nobel price 😀

    • @maujo2009
      @maujo2009 Рік тому +1

      @@Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus I thought the inversion of the spatial and temporal coordinate past the event horizon was part of that visualization. Is that an incorrect assumption?

  • @jack.d7873
    @jack.d7873 Рік тому +5

    An absolutely brilliant presentation again. It's the visuals + mathematical explanations of physics that makes this channel (imo) among the best of human creation.
    A good teacher is able to clearly explain un-intuitive concepts to those who've never encountered such ideas. It may have gotten a bit technical for complete beginners towards the end, but dialect teacher's masterfully. Spacetime taught like this can change the world.

  • @johnculver9353
    @johnculver9353 Рік тому +2

    Love your content and while it’s outside my field, I enjoy the challenge of at least trying to grasp superficially if not conceptually.

  • @Eric-Marsh
    @Eric-Marsh Рік тому +4

    This is very helpful. Something that is mentioned that I find very interesting is that not only time but space contracts near the event horizon. This seems symmetrical to how space expands in regions without a lot of mass.
    Can you do a video showing how all this works with a rotating mass?

  • @PSG_Mobile
    @PSG_Mobile Рік тому +49

    Each one of your videos adds a new piece of a big puzzle. It is very satisfying to realize how they link together to tell the same story. Really great work!

    • @trout3685
      @trout3685 Рік тому

      Can you explain what piece this video added and what pieces were in place before this video?

    • @larrytemen4789
      @larrytemen4789 4 місяці тому

      Do you always tell your car “great work” for functioning? Cause telling an AI channel “great work” is essentially the same thing.

  • @StatsScott
    @StatsScott 9 місяців тому +1

    What an extraordinarily informative video! I’ve watched a lot of explanations of black holes and spacetime curvature but this one is far and away the best yet.

  • @recifebra3
    @recifebra3 3 місяці тому +1

    This is so well done man!! It's crazy people figured this out w/o proper visuals - I guess they just figured it out in their heads.

  • @mastershooter64
    @mastershooter64 Рік тому +50

    An absolutely brilliant deconstruction of the ideas of Riemannian Geometry and General Relativity, this should be shown in every GR class in the world. Beautiful visuals and wonderful explanations! You sir, have gained a like and a subscriber!

    • @dialectphilosophy
      @dialectphilosophy  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your support and appreciation! Hope we can continue to illuminate the mathematics and philosophies behind these advanced topics in physics for y'all in the future!

    • @garytafoya8859
      @garytafoya8859 Рік тому

      Right 🤣

  • @CosmicCustodian
    @CosmicCustodian Рік тому +3

    Thank you so much for video! You've helped me and many others finally visualise better 3D gravitational effects around a BH. It's been bugging me for years tryna to conceptualise it in my head and this video pretty much gets it on point, bravo dude 👏🏻❤️

  • @HansangVibration
    @HansangVibration Місяць тому

    whoa this video was actually EXTREMELY well done! The visualization was impeccable, especially that of the inertial frames of reference! Great job

  • @369Sigma
    @369Sigma Рік тому

    I dig it. Just subbed, can't wait to binge your old stuff and see what's next :)

  • @csimet
    @csimet Рік тому +3

    Probably the best visual explanation I've ever seen of this topic. Relatively easy to understand. Good job!

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Рік тому +3

    i don't know if this has been mentioned before, but i think its cool that your narration is not too fast, especially for topics like this

  • @YokoX23
    @YokoX23 Рік тому

    I like how you're doing this slowly enough for anyone to pause and take notes.

  • @TeamSkeptic
    @TeamSkeptic Рік тому

    This is definitely one of the better visualizations on how gravity is derived from the tensor equation. Good job. A future video suggestion : Explanation of how the Schwarzschild equation suggests that the event horizon has an escape velocity of c, and how that is merely a mathematical convention. As traveling faster than the speed of light, if it was possible, wouldn't allow you to escape out of the black hole, beyond the event horizon. I've seen a few good explanations of it, but few have the presentation quality that you display. Again, great video!

  • @jimmytiddlytoo8160
    @jimmytiddlytoo8160 Рік тому +4

    If you fall into a supermassive black hole you’ll see the whole universe pass through billions of years before you’re spaghettified

  • @realcygnus
    @realcygnus Рік тому +16

    Superb content ! As usual. I've never seen an explanation quite like this.

    • @trout3685
      @trout3685 Рік тому

      Is it really that much more clear? Things go into the black hole. What did you learn here that you didn't know before?

  • @DenverDonate
    @DenverDonate 2 місяці тому +1

    This is the most amazing visual explanation on the topic of how gravity works and black holes. Nothing else on UA-cam even comes close.

  • @northernalberta
    @northernalberta Рік тому +1

    I don’t even want to imagine how much work went into making the graphics for a video like this, well done!

  • @genericjoe4082
    @genericjoe4082 Рік тому +9

    Absolutely amazed by the fact that this channel still doesn't have a 100k subscribers. The visuals and explanations are simply wonderful.

    • @ruslanlungu2113
      @ruslanlungu2113 Рік тому

      Because out there are not so many "smart" people who really enjoy math
      Luckly I am not one of them :)

  • @mighty8357
    @mighty8357 Рік тому +5

    You are so good at visualizing topics. Excellent work!

  • @causeitis
    @causeitis Рік тому +1

    Incredible explanation and visualization! Keep making more, this should find a bigger audience!

  • @gaemr_o5147
    @gaemr_o5147 Рік тому

    That was such an interesting video man! You did a great job with displaying such complex ideas

  • @celtickitty6547
    @celtickitty6547 Рік тому +3

    This is a brilliant way to explain this concept! In university (way back in the 80s, sigh) we were given equations for things like how an event horizon looks mathematically, but there just wasn't this kind of detailed explanation. I really wish I could have gone to school in today's world. We had to use Fortran to write code for our astronomy classes, (another heavy sigh & some slight head banging because, argh Fortran).

  • @zair_salahuddin
    @zair_salahuddin Рік тому +419

    Wake up honey, new Dialect just dropped

    • @lumi2030
      @lumi2030 Рік тому +19

      there are so many dialects nowadays

    • @kissrichard86
      @kissrichard86 Рік тому +7

      especially that you understood, what dialect is about in scientific circles is not important

    • @real-one-81
      @real-one-81 Рік тому +2

      😢😅❤

    • @kulwant..
      @kulwant.. Рік тому +1

      😂😊😅

    • @SignatureSignsSouthampton24
      @SignatureSignsSouthampton24 Рік тому +1

      So we are not speaking of a linguistical dialect or colloquialism of sorts. What we are really discussing is the speed of light and how exceeding it, may cut you off from the laws of the known universe, or exceed the laws that allow you to perceive those laws visually or mathematically.
      Personally I think black hole is large fork that spins space-time around like spaghetti, forming large twine like ball of linguini-like universe all rolled up small enough to exceed the laws of regular universe. If universe was a large quilt these would it be spots that God jam a fork into and twist around to hold things in place like tacks or to be like drain pipes for the universe that empty into impossible 4 dimensional spaghetti twirling forks of universe!

  • @GameADIKZ
    @GameADIKZ Місяць тому

    This is what im searching since i was still a kid and the only thing that they put on display are just 2d form of explanation and no one except you that was able to put this.. thank you

  • @juniorcyans2988
    @juniorcyans2988 3 місяці тому

    This 18 minutes video took me hours to finish. Thank you so much for making such a profound and complicated topic understandable! So luckily I found this video when I searched for topics on black hole, as I'm learning relativity and topology this semester!

  • @BangkokBubonaglia
    @BangkokBubonaglia Рік тому +6

    Awesome video. Thank you so much. You can stare at the equations all day, but to see it visualized this way is truly enlightening....even if slightly wrong.

    • @elio7610
      @elio7610 Рік тому +1

      Is it enlightening though? All of the spacetime curvature stuff has made no sense to me. I get the impression we need to completely rework our language for any of these concepts to be explained accurately.

    • @flambambam3578
      @flambambam3578 Рік тому +3

      @@elio7610 Or... just learn the language of mathematics.

    • @elio7610
      @elio7610 Рік тому +3

      @@flambambam3578 Fair point, i guess, still, it seems like language has been failing to keep up with everything. You can argue that is what math is for, yet people still try to describe stuff in english. It seems like an issue that extends beyond science, langauge failing to adequetely describe reality and leading people down all sorts of weird logical paths to argue over fictitious concepts. Apparently, people treat language as an unquestionable tradition and claim it can't be improved. Maybe there is no perfect language, there certainly is language that works better for specific uses than others though. I am convinced language is being treated too much like a religion when it could be more practical to treat it as a technology.

    • @flambambam3578
      @flambambam3578 Рік тому +2

      @@elio7610 Semantics can be tricky in that regard. The interpretation of verbal language varies per interpreter, and mathematics helps remove that ambiguity. It works well within its own domain, but the translation process between the mathematician and the layperson reintroduces that ambiguity. One practically has to specialize in both mathematics and verbal language to effectively and correctly portray the concepts being discussed. For me, it's easier to develop an intuition for math than it is to put that intuition into words. It's almost like describing a sense to someone that has never experienced it, except we created a new sensation and are now attempting to describe it using previous knowledge. It's hard to understand because we aren't hardwired to understand it.

  • @willo7734
    @willo7734 Рік тому +4

    Wow, i’ve been interested in relativity for decades since I was a teenager but this is the first time I’ve seen this explained where I can grasp it intuitively.

    • @NeroDefogger
      @NeroDefogger Рік тому +1

      same, I could understand it until I realized that... there is nothing to understand, you can't understand something that is not real

  • @eziowayne
    @eziowayne Рік тому

    This video is amazing! Great editing and great explanatory value! Thank you!

  • @tristanwegner
    @tristanwegner Рік тому

    Fresh way to explain space time. I like the level of explanation you hit!

  • @nice3294
    @nice3294 Рік тому +8

    This is such a great video, I've never actually seen anyone properly visualise the curvature of spacetime around massive objects to this level of detail/accuracy

    • @NeroDefogger
      @NeroDefogger Рік тому

      it's just a sphere, the "curvature of spacetime" is not a real thing

  • @shearemy1157
    @shearemy1157 Рік тому +12

    I still have to wait a year or two until I can take GR, but I smile at the thought of "gravity is a bunch of rotating bullet-shaped spacetime manifolds that give the illusion of a gravitational field" lol. I remember my introductory QM professor talking about some "folding up" of a geometry with regards to this question so it was awesome to see visually. Also, gonna start calling the tips of bullets "singularities" from now on, thanks. :D

    • @dialectphilosophy
      @dialectphilosophy  Рік тому +5

      Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it! (And technically, we were imprecise when we used the term "manifolds" in the plural -- it's all actually a single manifold. If you change what radial line you are on, you would sort of "hop" from one rolling sheet to the next.)

  • @conformist
    @conformist Рік тому +2

    dude this is amazing.
    as someone who didn’t study physics but always had interest, this is soooo good. thank you and please continue making videos

  • @ignetiusjrelly
    @ignetiusjrelly Рік тому +2

    Just for this topic alone of Geometry of Black hole you have me as your subscriber. Very informative content as well. Great Job.

  • @GaryFerrao
    @GaryFerrao Рік тому +4

    What software do you use for your animations? It's really helpful to the explanations.

  • @leapdaniel8058
    @leapdaniel8058 Рік тому +5

    When the whole manifold of spacetime comes to a point, as you mentioned at 15:30, the r coordinate is r=2GM/c^2. The time-time component of the metric tensor goes to 0, so it makes sense that everything converges to that point. But by the same token, the radial-radial component is infinite, right? So it seems to me that if the radial distance of that point is infinitely far away, you'll never actually reach it. Some modern physics discussions talk a lot about the problems of knowing what's beyond the event horizon. But if nothing actually ever gets to the event horizon, then isn't the answer simply that: there's nothing beyond the event horizon? Because nothing ever falls in that deep, as it would have to travel an infinite distance to do so?

    • @1300thiago
      @1300thiago Рік тому +2

      To a outside observer it's exactly what happen, but to the free falling to the black hole observer he would travel a normal distance, while the rest of the universe fast foward in time up to the end of the universe... then die

    • @CleverNeologism
      @CleverNeologism Рік тому +4

      You are not wrong. From the POV of a distant observer, nothing ever reaches the event horizon... it slowly approaches it, and dims as it redshifts and asymptotically approaches the horizon. It's not that it's just infinitely far away... it spacetime after all. It's also infinitely in the future. From the POV of the object falling in it takes a finite (and short) time to reach the horizon and whatever is beyond it. Consider the transformations he shows to convert between inertial and orbiting (accelerated) observers in the video. In doing that rotation, and combining it with curved spacetime, the space and time dilations undo each other, and you get a finite distance and time travelled by the falling observer (i.e. they are reciprocals). 2D space is not 2D spacetime: imagine each ring has a vector between 0 (at the distant observer) and pi/4 (tip) attached to it to represent the Lorentz rotation applied in order to keep the orbital lines parallel in the diagram. This introduces the "twist" he shows for inertial observers that fall in.

    • @flambambam3578
      @flambambam3578 Рік тому +1

      But what about the stellar core that formed the black hole? The matter at the center of the star would already be beyond the event horizon because it existed there before it formed.

    • @leapdaniel8058
      @leapdaniel8058 Рік тому

      @@CleverNeologism (and @Greathigo ) So there's this idea that an outside observer (let's call her Alice) never witnesses anything cross the event horizon, but an in-falling observer (let's call him Bob) crosses it. I have a followup question. Suppose, long after Bob has already jumped in, Alice also jumps in. As we said, in-falling observers cross the event horizon. So Alice must cross it. But now, she also must observe Bob cross it at some point before she herself does, since Bob jumped first. Is this so? If so, it would suggest that there is some non-zero distance from the event horizon at which you actually can witness things cross into the event horizon.
      Also I'm not sure I understand what rings you are referring to. Are you talking about the green rings corresponding to time axes at individual "points" in space?

    • @leapdaniel8058
      @leapdaniel8058 Рік тому

      @@flambambam3578 My guess would be that, at least from our perspective far outside the black hole, the whole stellar core would be smeared on the black hole surface. Any two particles in the stellar core have an event horizon, right? From our outside perspective it would take forever for one particle to cross into the event horizon of the other.

  • @darlananan7201
    @darlananan7201 Рік тому

    One of the best videos describing the effects of the curvature of space time with visualization i've ever seen so far

  • @neri4950
    @neri4950 Рік тому

    Your video is AMAZING. The only source out there on the internet that truly explained to me space-time curvature and black holes. Hats off, respect, and keep up the fantastic work and videos.

  • @bluescreen1137
    @bluescreen1137 Рік тому +6

    Hi, I'm a little confused when you talk about the motion on the manifold 12:08. I mean that I don't understand why you consider two observers. Why is it necessary to accelerate to maintain the radial distance constant in the first place. Isn't that what is supposed to result. I thought that free-falling objects approach massive bodies simply because if you follow the proper time, that's where their future leads. What I want to say is that the visual representation should point out the fact that if you draw a geode on the manifold then you inevitable would approach the massive body, right???

    • @elio7610
      @elio7610 Рік тому +3

      Recently i have been thinking about all the simplifications and visualizations i see in explanations of phenomena, i am not sure if am learning or being mislead. The issue is trying to teach complicated concepts while skipping all the complicated details, the question is: Does any of it communicate an accurate and useful explanation or is it more often misleading people into believing something wrong? Language use can be just as misleading as visuals, so i do not think visualizations alone are the sole concern.

    • @PSG_Mobile
      @PSG_Mobile Рік тому +3

      If I got right... The inertial object moves on r direction following the curvature of spacetime, in this case the distance r decreases as it moves on time direction. The only way to keep a constant r distance in this curved spacetime is to accelerate in the opposite direction. The non inertial observer is not necessary to explain the motion of the inertial object, it is just to show how the inertial object moving on the curved spacetime looks like a free falling object from the point of view of a stand observer in r direction.

    • @dialectphilosophy
      @dialectphilosophy  Рік тому +4

      Hey, thanks for watching! You're correct to point these issues out. One of the first things we learn in General Relativity is that objects follow their natural geodesics on the curved spacetime manifold -- but clearly here the inertial objects do NOT follow geodesics. The typical answer most physicists will give is that because we have used a euclidean surface to represent a hyperbolic one (spacetime distances involve a negative sign) geodesics will take a direction "opposite" to what we expect. However we suspect that the mismatch between geodesics and inertial worldlines are more related to the fact that this surface is constructed from the accelerated perspective (which would constantly introduce an "offset" to the manifold's straight paths, making them non-straight). Many physicists, even the highly credentialed ones, don't understand acceleration in relativity very well, so it's possible once we re-construct the manifold from an inertial perspective, geodesics and worldlines will match up. We hope to resolve this issue and provide a fuller explanation in future videos.
      As to why one needs to accelerate to maintain constant radial distance, we suggest checking out our video "The Sky is Falling Up" for more on that.

    • @dialectphilosophy
      @dialectphilosophy  Рік тому +1

      @@narfwhals7843 In the original script, we addressed this issue, but for time and flow and comprehension purposes, we cut it. Mainly, because it involved a whole discussion about acceleration in GR, and, well, you know how well that's gone over in prior videos. It's not unfair to accuse us of being misleading here, as the mismatch between geodesics and inertial worldlines here is definitely a major omission and source of confusion. However, unlikes *some* channels, we are fully prepared to address why we made such an omission, and moreover, do intend to clarify it in future videos.

    • @bluescreen1137
      @bluescreen1137 Рік тому

      @@dialectphilosophy Thank you :)
      Now it's much clearer. I rely more on intuition because I don't find enough time in my life to study physics properly. So when you did that transformation there, my brain stopped.

  • @annegajerski-cauley8324
    @annegajerski-cauley8324 Рік тому +4

    A very accurate and lovingly done production -bravo! I would have no reservations in presenting this to an introductory relativity class. Bur as they say, and you imply, good teaching involves the gentle stripping away of simplifying lies and distortions.In this context I would simply caution any student to not take the use of the eyeball, in representing the observer's local frame, too, too literally. The issue is one of comparing events as located in highly useful co-ordinate systems for the manifold, like the Minkowski coordinates used throughout here, using measurements such observers might make. This should not be taken as what would literally and immediately be seen by a local astronaut, as light travel time and path over macroscopic distances would as a rule give distorted personal results. The student must be reminded to think in terms of measurement possible in some local (proper) frame (free-falling or not), as if "present everywhere at once" at some proper time instant, to avoid certain pitfalls (alluded to right from the start). Notwithstanding, a very nice primer on actually "handling" curved spacetimes! All the best, D. Barillari, PhD.

  • @thetinkerist
    @thetinkerist 2 місяці тому +1

    I know this is from a year ago, but this video shows one of the best visual constructions of how gravity emerges. I love this! Everyone slightly interested in physics should watch this.

  • @jsEMCsquared
    @jsEMCsquared Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the visualization gravitational anolomilles are hard to imagine. You spelled out a neat way to imagine them. Your thumbnail pic showed another way to also visualize the effects in 3 d. I would like to see that.

  • @Ohrapell
    @Ohrapell 3 місяці тому +3

    Shit Im so high and This is a bit of a different video than I expected. The info is not like science pops, it is clearly in-depth. Since I am interested in the topic of quantum physics and astrophysics, I like this kind of content very much. But not this time :) It lasted me 5 minutes

  • @DemoniteBL
    @DemoniteBL Рік тому +3

    What's with all the anti-science comments here? lol Sad to see just how ignorant people can be. Good video btw.

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Рік тому +1

    The funny thing is that even neutron stars we can perfectly well see can be inside their own photon sphere, meaning they negate or invert centrifugal force. It's not just that light isn't fast enough to orbit them that close. It's that their surface geometry is flat or concave so no amount of speed will actually let you escape horizontally.
    Similarly, as you approach a black hole, it is no mere optical illusion that the universe sinks into an infinitismal point and the event horizon becomes all-encompassing. The event horizon is in fact deeply concave at every point.

  • @Astro_AmanJha
    @Astro_AmanJha Рік тому

    It's just fantastic to watch you @dialect... Just great work and actual a very important work towards correct science communication....All the best and wish you good health and hope to see more videos soon!!!
    Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @AyushBakshi
    @AyushBakshi Рік тому

    That's the best representation I ever saw hands down.
    What tools do you use for making these videos.

  • @-vale-rio1556
    @-vale-rio1556 Рік тому

    this is the most clarifying video about tis topic i have ever seen, thanks man, really, i struggled to understand precisely the relacionship between the event orizon and the time warping.... and its been years i thinked about it and rearched videos about it, you made it crystal clear

  • @yelo4156
    @yelo4156 Рік тому

    Such an amount of work to explain us clearly that subject.
    Bravo from France

  • @aquamanGR
    @aquamanGR Рік тому +1

    Very nice presentation. This is one of my favorite explanations of the Schwarzschild metric.

  • @Dekoherence-ii8pw
    @Dekoherence-ii8pw 6 місяців тому +1

    This bit of the visuals 14:20 blew my mind. That's hella trippy!

  • @YualChiek
    @YualChiek Рік тому

    Great video. Your visualizations combined with your explanation make it the Schwarzchild metric and radius intuitive.

  • @Agnom
    @Agnom Рік тому +1

    Kudos to you. This has got to be the best visualization of the spacetime warping at the vicinity of any large bodies.

  • @abcde_fz
    @abcde_fz Рік тому +1

    . FINALLY !!! THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, in all the videos I've ever seen, where the 'rubber sheet' analogy was effectively replaced with an understandable 3D representation, using the 'multiple cone' model you used.
    It's about time someone did this. I've been waiting years for it...

    • @you2tooyou2too
      @you2tooyou2too Рік тому

      The trampoline illustrations, should have the membrane pulled toward the center of mass, not pushed away from it. (sigh)

  • @StealthTheUnknown
    @StealthTheUnknown Рік тому

    That was a gorgeous visualization of the hyperspace, and made it simpler to understand. Thanks!

  • @mwdiers
    @mwdiers Рік тому

    Ok. This time I finally got it. It all clicks now, and I see exactly where you have been going in your explanation of how mass acceleration + space-time curvature = Newtonian gravity. Curvature of the space-time manifold balances acceleration such that for any given mass (the earth, for example), the physical dimensions of the mass become stationary relative to any fixed point in the manifold. The explanation was right there in your diagram of the inertial observer vs. the accelerating observer. As the mass is accelerating, it may not blow up, but my mind sure has. Well done!

  • @muhamamadabdussamad7135
    @muhamamadabdussamad7135 3 місяці тому

    One of the best explanations I have ever seen. Thank you

  • @user-ot7lv8su1b
    @user-ot7lv8su1b 3 місяці тому +1

    You sir have no idea what you have done here. Best visiual/explanation i've ever seen. You're doing Gods work.

  • @98_sam_
    @98_sam_ Рік тому +1

    This is the first video I see from you, you are a genius!
    If you haven't done so already could you make the visualisation of the Big Bang? Everywhere it's visualised as a cone stretching outward from a singularity in one direction but I guess I'm missing the bigger picture

  • @antisymmetric237
    @antisymmetric237 Рік тому

    I'm impress by such a great explanation and visualization of the geometry of a black hole! Great job!

  • @ranganramasamy6820
    @ranganramasamy6820 2 місяці тому +1

    The best explanation I have come across for a black hole!

  • @RsklnkvX
    @RsklnkvX 4 місяці тому

    ...that was Awesome!! ...wow, what a way to start the new year... the clarity of both thought a speech is admirable ( I think a generated voice would be incapable of that "Schwarzschild" pronunciation, but I could be mistaken. 😊) ...ty so much, glad to have found this channel.

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- Рік тому

    I have to admit that I have never seen anything like this before. Im so gratefull of the discovery of this chanel I can't wait for more!
    I need to watch this video many times to understand it though, because this is new!

  • @jasonbaines7569
    @jasonbaines7569 Рік тому +1

    I have study General Relativity for many years, including two semesters of General Relativity in college. It is one of my passions. I would be happy to call out any wrong information in the video, but i can find anything wrong. This is a well done video about the Schwarzchild metric. Great job!!!! Looking forward to the next one.

  • @Vkonto
    @Vkonto Рік тому

    Amazing presentation quality and communication of complex information simplified .. keep it up

  • @alwaysdisputin9930
    @alwaysdisputin9930 Рік тому

    This is a really good video. i'm learning stuff that i didn't know about BH.
    TY!

  • @Lombey84
    @Lombey84 Рік тому

    Really looking forward for the next dive.

  • @benallan5835
    @benallan5835 Місяць тому

    this was genuinely insane, such a cool visualization

  • @JonathanRegalo
    @JonathanRegalo 4 місяці тому +1

    I greatly appreciate the time and effort that it takes to create these videos. Very well done.

  • @martinlisitsata
    @martinlisitsata Рік тому

    in being an amateur astronomer as a hobby there is a certain indescribable joy in the mathematical part of my hobby . meaning i understood nothing from the non-picture part of this but i loved it all the same

  • @C.K.MillerPoet_Extraordinaire
    @C.K.MillerPoet_Extraordinaire Рік тому +1

    I have insane trouble understanding high school algebra, and I failed my first attempt at the GED math test, but for some reason these videos explaining high math concepts are super fuckin interesting, and easier to understand than finding the fucking goddamn formula for finding the slope of a line.
    Thank you for being a good teacher

  • @dvk578
    @dvk578 Рік тому

    Truely awesome content!!! This is the first video of yours that I have ever seen, and I hit the subscribe button about 20 seconds into the video. Excellent analysis and visualizations!!! The bullet analogy at the end was a bit odd. Sure, the representation appeared conical but that was the very simplified representation showing only one physical dimension at a time. That was a bit distracting from the razor-sharp scientific analysis which characterized the rest of the video.
    So, any object encountering the event horizon of a Black Hole by definition HAS to be traveling at the speed of light. Because that is how fast space is "falling" at that location... Is that accurate? And if that is the case then there is no way to survive the tidal forces at the event horizon. An object can't just peacefully float through the event horizon, it has to be accelerated to the speed of light. Then there are the other effects when arise for a massive object moving near the speed of light... the mass increases. Perhaps that is all of the dark matter then cannot pinpoint... Relativistic increases in mass.... Well, thanks for an outstanding video!!!

  • @daveanderson718
    @daveanderson718 Рік тому

    Excellent explanation with great visuals that make things vastly simpler. Thanks!

  • @jimmcneal5292
    @jimmcneal5292 8 місяців тому

    Insanely deep and accurate explanation!

  • @darrennew8211
    @darrennew8211 Рік тому +1

    This is probably the best explanation of spacetime curvature I've ever seen, as a layman.

  • @michaelcollins7192
    @michaelcollins7192 9 місяців тому

    Outstanding presentation!

  • @extreme4180
    @extreme4180 Рік тому +1

    Damn the animation, the voice, the explanation everything's so good

  • @jeandesroches2285
    @jeandesroches2285 Рік тому

    Elegant, gracious and sophisticated. The dialectical class at its nec plus ultra. Bravo.

  • @jasonwilson7094
    @jasonwilson7094 Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much I have been studying black holes for decades and you honestly just helped me with the picture

    • @NeroDefogger
      @NeroDefogger Рік тому

      I did too, but I didn't reach the same conclusions

  • @booradley4237
    @booradley4237 Рік тому

    You are so good at teaching. Please don't stop!

  • @gahan09
    @gahan09 Рік тому

    One of the best visualization of Gravity and Black Hole............ Just Awesome.... You can even explain same concept with pencil and sharpener...

  • @elindauer
    @elindauer 7 місяців тому

    This channel is a gift to all humanity. Thank you for what you do I can't wait for the reveal. ❤

  • @armorkny
    @armorkny 4 місяці тому

    I really like the pauses in this video. Gives you some time the sink the information in. A lot of youtube videos just chungus their way through the video like adhd children.

  • @HellDragon115
    @HellDragon115 Рік тому

    This is some top tier visualization. Thanks for sharing

  • @Amethyst_Friend
    @Amethyst_Friend Рік тому

    Brilliant explanation- subscribed

  • @johnclark8359
    @johnclark8359 Рік тому

    That was excellent! I look forward to your next video.

  • @curcumin417
    @curcumin417 Рік тому

    Excellent video- Very concise explanation with supporting visualizations. Thank you.

  • @Nobody_114
    @Nobody_114 9 місяців тому

    From your explanation of the spacetime curvature (STC), if a disc, with its normal pointed to the center of the planetary body, is rotated to near the speed of light (C), the time dilation (TD) it experiences would reduce the turning of the STC "cone", thereby reducing its "free-fall" towards the planetary body, correct?

  • @SixTimesNine
    @SixTimesNine Рік тому +1

    Very nice to see a fresh approach. Thanks!

  • @notsrynot
    @notsrynot Рік тому

    This is such a great concept of this topic to explore!