A quick note for viewers. Some of these theories in videos are spurred by YOUR comments and meant to be discussed. So before you automatically tear me a new ass, just keep that in mind. Some ideas might seem bizarre but that's why we discuss it..I mean people crawl under dumpsters, right?
hey bud lets touch on negan killing maggie and glenn(which means the baby too). yeah its a hard pill to swallow but swallow we most definitely will.(heheh) in the episodes leading to this the group look at glenn and maggie as a sign of hope, if they could do it so can anyone right? well negan coming in and killing the trio would fuck up the group more than anything. they just didnt lose their friends and an unborn baby, they lost hope of future. foreshadowing of this is before denise dies she sees the remains of a baby.....
I never said she takes it like a champ, i think glenn does and maggie has an out burst negan says man you killed alot of my men and kills her too daryl tries to defend her gets knocked out and taken prisoner, abe tries to help gets shot. And at this point rick shits himself. And no negan the joke was not funny!!!!
killing a pregnant woman? they let a walker eat lori after her son cut his baby sister out of her! or has everyone forgotten to look at the flowers....they killed two young girls. come on maggie being pregnant wont stop them. plus another infant in a show about the zombie apocalypse?
I've been saying Eugene from the time the episode aired. Seemed like him giving the bullet recipe to Rick , him finally proving he has worth and value to the entire group, especially Abe, Rick trusting him to take the RV on his own, (where it seemed like he had his " moment on the show" as soon as he starts up the RV) etc, really closes out his story and maybe doesn't fit well with the entire story, but it really fits and makes sense with the way the episode played out.Eugene dying makes sense if you look at all the little things in the finale . Him "taking it like a champ" would fit perfectly for his character at this point too. Rick and Co finally saw he's a survivor , he knows it too at this point, and he's showing the group one last time that he is not weak like they've always thought and showed he always been strong, they are just seeing it when its too late. It just makes sense. Even after saving Tara in Season 5, no one took him that serious. Has my theory changed with all the time in between and Spoiling Dead pics and Internet articles/videos?? Absolutely. More than likely Abe and Glenn is who is leaving, but it would be smart and a real shocker for AMC to change things up. You would have to think they are smarter than that and by this point , if true, know the spoiler is out there and we all know whats coming. The whole sneak peak two weeks before the premiere, was most likely done to stir things up , (Daryl's blanket, the ring?), and have us thinking it could be different. I also think Rick will keep his hand, from what Ive read Andrew Lincoln begged for them to cut it off in season 3 and they wouldn't bc it would be too hard to work around, so I think its just paying homage to the comics in the sneak peak. Also a little off track here, but Season 5 episode 10 where Tyreese dies, they built a whole indoor set of Noah's house so no one outside the cast and show runners would know the Governor , Beth, Lizzie and Mike etc were going to be on set and it wasn't leaked. That was no where near as major as this, so if they went out of their way for that scene, you would figure and hope they would do a hell of a lot more for this one. I always though it would be a bigger shocker to just kill Glenn there at the end of season 6, since 99% of even non comic book readers know he gets it in the comics, bc we've seen him escape death so many times, that we thought maybe his TV character would even escape his comic book death. If Glenn and Abe (more than likely ) it was a wasted cliffhanger IMO. Sorry for long read here I can go on about how it a lot more but def wont
BTW I think some of the best interviews and Talking dead episodes are the ones with Josh Mcdermitt (Eugene) Dude is funny as hell so wouldn't mind seeing him stick around
I've been saying Eugene since the beginning as well. He gave up the bullet recipe, he finally grew balls, he was going on a suicide mission. Most importantly, cliffhangers work this way. They leave a HUGE QUESTION with a mild answer. Eugene is a more mild character, thus he dies.
The writer Robert Kirkman already admitted that the person that dies is most dearest to TWD fans... Eugene grew a pair but hes not worth a 6 month cliff hanger... It has to be Glenn, Daryl, or Abraham. Negan doesnt kill women. Plus it wouldnt be a good look for AMC to have a man beating the holy hell out of a sick pregnant woman with a baseball bat covered in barb wire on national television! -My 2 cents
Yeah thats why I said that Eugene makes sense with how the episode played out. But not how the whole story will play out. Thats why I think it would make sense to be him , but more than likely will not be him and either Glenn, Abe or both
Its tough though because when they say a major character is dying, you got to look at it the way we as viewers see who is and isn't a major character and from the show runners point of view see who is or isn't a major character . I think that the ones from the start (Rick, Daryl, Maggie, Glenn) or the first 18 episodes (seasons 1 and 2 ) as the true major ones of the show, , then obviously adding Michone, (even though she did arrive at the end of season 2), and Abe into the mix as major since they have been such big contributors to the show since they arrived, as the ones whose death would give us the biggest impact. Problem is I think the show runners want us to think every one in that lineup to be considered a major character, regardless of when they came into the story . Basically all of the survivors including Aaron, Rosita, Sasha and Eugene they try to push on us as a major character, and even though I also dont agree with it, this is why its really tough to rule someone like Eugene or Aaron 100% out from being killed off. It does seem like a cop out, just like the double death is going to do to bring shock value. I still think the spoilers will end up true but my first choice was always Eugene. I figured if Glenn was gonna go they would have done it there and then. But at this point Im leaning more towards the spoilers being true and Eugene surviving
Actors being photographed on set means absolutely NOTHING. Am I the only one whose ever heard of the word FLASHBACK. Their characters can be dead, but you still need the very ALIVE actor to film flashback scenes. Seriously people.
Lori was in a couple episodes after her death, but they're already on the second half of season 7... it would be pretty hard to totally hide an actor for that long.
your right flashbacks happen but when a Abraham and Glenn haven't been spotted at all and all the other characters are on set everyday it's kinda easy to tell. and it's not Daryl cuz he's wearing the saviors prisoner outfit
Glenn may die this season but it doesn't mean he dies in the first episode. They could be sneaking him in there too. They did that when shooting the last episode of Seinfeld, snuck certain past cast members in.
This was done on purpose, I wanted to make one last Cameraman joke before the final release (and to get a reply from you, of course. Thanks, you made my day. Now, please no hate, and don't kill me)
I remember him looking at a ring around the time Rosy and him were screwing in the library. It was around his neck with his dogtags i think. Could be remembering what I want though.
Having a miscarriage wouldn't feel like that, but I don't see a half white-half Asian baby easily being casted especially cause they might also need a set of twins, so I agree with the no baby thing
Havik One bingo. That's what I think is going to happen. I don't want glen to die at all, but if they die together, it'll soften the blow (no pun intended) for me.
All that stuff could be AMC or the producers of the show throwing people off the trail. I remember there were all indications that Glenn died at the dumpster and of course he didn't. If Negan kills him that will be very predictable. Maybe he'll be in a coma and that's why he's not being filmed. I saw Steven Yeun a month ago and his hair is still shaggy and he still has a beard. I didn't see Michael Cudlitz so I don't know if he still has the handlebar moustache. I've been a huge fan of Michael Cudlitz since "Band Of Brothers" and hope Abraham survives but even if he doesn't survive he'll get plenty of work. He always pops up on television. I think Steven Yeun will have a harder time because Asian actors have a hard time landing roles.
Actually, you're the only one I follow because you're the only one that makes sense, and gets to the point without wasting my time. Thank you! I respect the fact that you're humble enough to admit you might be wrong, though you provide as much evidence as possible from your own perception along with your viewers' opinions. I don't know why you should have to keep reminding people of this, as it is very clear in your presentation; I just wanted to let you know you do an excellent job!
I get it now he lands on Maggie but he switches half way from bashing her head in to bashing Abrahams head in instead cause Abraham was probably about to intervene maybe punch Negan in the gut Negan had a quick reaction bashed Abrahams head in first then he's about to go after Maggie again then Glenn interferes then he bashes his head in too. Negan realizes 2 is enough then goes to terrorize Rick which will result to Rick losing his hand in the RV
KiddEcho_ The last episode and the new trailer are totally different angles and swings. Check them both again. There will be no continuity from last season.
KiddEcho_ yeah I think they rushed right into the bashing that episode cause they didn't have enough time but with the first episode of next season they do now
Great video again! Been following these Negan kill theory videos pretty much since season 6 ended. You, along with others such as TrevsChan2, have been keeping me interested in the series - now the wait is nearly over and the hype is real!
Can't be glenn if you think thats the pocket watch, cause in the new footage, when the camera changes when rick gets dragged away, its too close to ricks position, which im confident it's Abrahams position (As maggie would never have the energy to get back up in her condition after getting hit), and glenn is at the end. Sure glenn might bite the dust too, i have a funny feeling a 2nd will bite the dust, cause glenn seems too emotional to just sit on his ass, he might just jump to attempt to attack negan, say either he's just dumb, or negan will wave his bat at maggie again. Or like They've done plenty of times and change things from the comics and glenn won't bite the dust. But i still believe a 2nd will die, we know 1 does, amc are crazy enough to kill a 2nd just to catch us off guard.
hey killz, just wanted to say that I watch all your videos and you are by far my fave. you always explain your theories well, and where you got your info, and you have a good speaking voice. I also like that you use TSDF for a lot of your source info. there's one guy on here that I just can't get past how he sounds! but anyway, the main thing I wanted to know has been revealed, and now I'm just stoked for the premiere. I don't think they take ricks hand though.good job, good video, keep up the good work!
Why do people always have to make some kind of gay reference or sexual reference, for the record I'm female, I use my sons email to comment, so your immature comments are useless,rude, and totally uncalled for. But by all means, carry on, keep doing what you do, I've noticed that not only on this site but others as well it seems like there's some messed up person who just can't help themselves because they are so confused with their own sexuality that they have to troll everyone else, so keep it up so we all know who you are.
mate, been loving your videos. Probably you already discussed this here but i have a feeling that Eugene goes, kindof couse in the finale he sortof stood up, was brave, gave all the intel about the makingof bullets to Rick. Its a strech, but again, when characters have that sortof remption moment its a dead sentence. There was no proper goodbye to neither Glenn or Abraham...but the show can surprise all and kill without paying them "respects".
ShrimpCoating a lot of people are saying that, why would he want to make Glenn nervous? Why choose to mess with him? Michonne is to Abe's right so why wouldn't he mess with Rick instead?
Hey 999 I'm on spoiling dead fans page also . I have wondered about Glenn, Maggie, Eugene and Abe also . why no pictures of them 4 . Make's me wonder what the heck is going on.. Also if you look at the ring everyone is looking at look up some and hou will see what looks like a gold men's ring . I was thinking it looked like part of the watch . i saw a picture that's of Negan from the final and this new clip and i don't see the gun .. i have been thinking maybe the gun come's into play like you said in another video.. You're video's have made this 6 months so much easier to get through.. thanks 999
Hey Tracie! Thanks so much for the awesome feedback. I always look forward to reading your replies. Let me know if Ninja and crew get something that shows Maggie or Eugene. It's really starting to worry me...
Hey dude, I don't think it's abe and glenn. even though people have been saying it's them because they're the only ones who haven't been seen on set reported by the spoiling dead, notice how amc always was at war with the spoiling dead, and now all of the sudden they could care less. I'm thinking the theory that they might be working together, having glenn and abe work in private, and having the actual victim come on set
2 people end up dying folks. a main character but not there in 1st season, then fan favorite steps in and gets taken hostage, then because of his actions, Negan takes out a MAJOR character that's been there since beginning... and this hostage will be gone at some point early this season too because the character blames self for the death of the 2nd person.. :-) so yes ppl, you may need tissues for premiere and then few episodes in, you may need to riot..
The fan fav that has been taken hostage does make it out and survives the entire first half of the season. Photos have been taken. the fan fav was spotted with another person from season one, giving them a hug before the fan fav leaves for a while to cope with what happened
+Micavity Cat I'm now just going to use names bc I may not be right. I heard Abraham gets killed first and Glenn thought it was Maggie so he jumped in and also got lucilled. Daryl then tried to intervene but was taken captive
Hey Killshot so I thought about something after watching the trailer yet again. I think Glen/Abe is brought up from being picked. Rick being the leader who feels responsible steps up and volunteers to take the place of the victim. He's brought right next to the victim to "take the place of the victim" and with the first swing, Negan changes targets and kills Glenn/Abe (Probably Abe) anyway. Rick goes for his Axe (which could be hidden on him) to fight, Darryl follows and a few others. You hear a gunshot in the air. Qued in on Negan's gun ending the struggle. Then the scene from the trailer happens. When they come out from the trailer, Negan shoots Glenn/Abe (probably Glenn) killing him and takes Darryl hostage. Probably far fetched but I came up with it by looking at the blood splatter on Rick's face. He had to be right next to the victim when it happened.
certainly will... Rick's reaction was just I'm going to kill you.. I couldn't understand why he isn't kicking and screaming.. the blood on Rick's face may be his own.. remember Rick fidgeting with something on the ground around his knee.. coulda been the hatchet?? he takes action and gets smashed in the back of the head by Simon and falls face first to the ground.. then wakes up to negans speech.. would explain negans introduction of his right-hand man...
Mason Free I think that's it's Maggie then Abraham comes in we can't forget the crying at the end of a man, could Glenn have been crying of just watching his wife and a good friend of his dying? Just my thoughts. :(
Why would the pocket watch be in the remnants of Glenn's head? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Glenn holding the watch ANYWHERE in the last episode - so, even if he has it on him, why would he take it out of his pocket and then cover his head; it's the only way it could be there but it still doesn't make sense. I think that Maggie's killed but covers her head, this destroying her hand and ripping the ring off her finger. Nicetaro said that there would be deaths, I think that if Negan kills Maggie, that's two deaths, and if he kills Abe too - that's three.
Then how does Rick has a spray of blood in his right side of his face and why is there so much blood under his legs, its either maggie or abraham, i think it might be michonne but I know that its not glenn
My thoughts are probably the first one he killed is Abraham because he just said "it" to his victim and in the comics he said "bring him up" and the saviors brought Glenn (the comics) to the front. But he in the tv show once he said "it" he killed the victim no hesitation. And probably and of course the 2nd victim of Lucille will be Glenn. And he's the one gonna be on front so there's a good view of him dying. I believe that's why Rick has blood on his right eye/face because Abraham died first. I believe that's not a scratch it's just darkened makeup to make it more realistic.
Negan doesn't actually start killing the victim as soon as he says, you...are....it. He pulls the victim out in front of everyone. All of these videos are pointless. Saying who dies based on the Season 6 finale lineup is a waste of time. It was all for show.
They already stated that how the finale ended wasn't exactly how everything happened. Remember in the mid-season finale when they were walking out of the house and the kid goes, "Mom, mom, mom!" That never actually happened when the continued it on the mid-season premiere. You will see in 2 weeks...
Its the pocket watch. I'll be so pissed if it's Eugene cause thats not even shocking!! And Maggie still has a BIG story to go through, same with Eugene. I still think it's Ave and Glenn. Do you still think it's them?
Are you talking about the first kill, or a second kill when Negan switches? Won't the show start back off with what Negan saying "Look at you - taking it like a champ!" and beating someone to death at the end of the season finale? Are you saying the surprise switch from Maggie to Abraham would be then?
I dont know if you remember but I'm the one that said I thought it could be Maggie. I did kind of stray from the opinion that it was Maggie after watching your videos lately 999, because you always make great arguments for who you think it is, but after watching the sneak peek, I am sticking to my original maggie theory. btw, you are my favorite Walking Dead discussion channel. Not to take away from the other guys, they do a great job and put in a lot of work too. But I think you engage us more with your topics and are definitely more interactive with your subs, and responding to comments, and people appreciate that. I spend at least an hour a day responding to comments on my videos, so I really appreciate when I see youtubers doing that. OK. back to what I was saying. Just a few things that I saw. First, the ring in the blood, or could be her ring. but it could also be something else, so really doesn't prove anything right now but, Maggie is right next to Rick, on his right, In the sneak peak, he has been splattered with blood and really if you look at it, that blood is quite a bit more than just a splatter. It was someone right next to Rick because that is a direct hit on ricks face from someone having their head bashed in that was super close to him. Blood spatter marks expand the further they travel, and this is just a solid streak of blood that didn't even have time to separate and create a spatter. Then, the biggest hint to me that it was Maggie is when Negan is having that little chat with Rick, where Rick says he is going to kill Negan. And Negan starts talking about right hand man, and how important that person is, and then asks rick if he has a right hand man. and rick just looks away. and so Negan then alludes to the fact that he may have just killed Rick's right hand man. In my opinion Maggie has been more like the right hand man than anyone. She's been stepping up her role, and has been doing a great job of being a leader, just like at the Hilltop, Rick wanted her to do the negotiations, and gain the experience. And she's been in that position a lot more the last couple seasons, of just taking charge. Daryll of course is Rick's right hand man, but in a different way, Maggie is like the political right hand man, but she can still handle herself and kill and be tough and bad ass when she needs to, but she's good at talking to other people and making alliances, and negotiationg, so Politically I see Maggie as Rick's right hand man. and that's it. i think I just have to stick with my gut feeling on this one. From the second I heard Andrew Lincoln say the day after the season six finale that this is the absolutel darkest episode ever. a few other things he said too, but when he said that, I tried to imagine who would be the absolute darkest death, and to me that would be Maggie and her baby. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I do believe that it could be between a few different people, and there are great arguments for each of those people. I don't know for sure who it is and I think nobody does, for the most part. I find it funny when I hear someone say it is "FOR SURE" this person or that person, but they have no clue I think it's cool to hear all the different theories though. Have a great day 999 and keep up the great work. Thanks, George
I'm still set on it being Glenn and Abe. I think maybe Abe gets killed, then Negan decides to kill glenn (maybe after Daryl interfering) and Rick could possibly try reasoning with Negan to let glenn go, but he kills him anyway. Which is one reason Rick is shown so angry in the sneak peak. And that could also be why Negan assumes he had just killed Rick's right hand man!
2 people end up dying folks. a main character but not there in 1st season, then fan favorite steps in and gets taken hostage, then because of his actions, Negan takes out a MAJOR character that's been there since beginning... and this hostage will be gone at some point early this season too because the character blames self for the death of the 2nd person.. :-) so yes ppl, you may need tissues for premiere and then few episodes in, you may need to riot..
thehnl I've probably said this a billion times already, but I AM NOT PREPARED! lol. I literally might go into mourning for awhile. I feel like this seasons going to screw me up for the rest of my life. XD I'm just so attached to almost every one of the characters in the line up. And I know Glenn will probably die, and he's the reason I actually started watching The Walking Dead, because while season 2 was airing, my sister was watching the episode where they send Glenn into the well to get the zombie out, and I thought he was hilarious. But once I started watching,I fell in love with everyone D: (except for Shane, Lori, and Andrea. I was hoping they'd die xD). Ughhhhhhh. This is going to kill me.
Amber Katelyn Yep this has been my theory as well for a few months now, i never planned on posting it because I didn't want to spoil it for anyone if it's right and I wasn't seeing the theory anywhere yet, but a few months later it finally started showing up
a ring does not just teleport off the finger to which it was attached... Did anyone stop and remove the ring and toss it on the pile of carnage? Why? The watch, perhaps is this solution?
I looked up pic's of Maggie's ring and it just doesn't look like hers to me...it looks too small to be the one Glenn gave her and the band isn't the same. my first thoughts too were did Abraham have a ring for Sasha...who else had jewelry...the watch seems more possible to me than the ring. her diamond was big and doesn't look like that setting even if she did get hit with a bat I just don't think it's hers. Thanks for the GREAT videos!
Josh Lavallee I don't think they will all the actors have said in interviews it's going to be heartbreaking/devastating etc loosing Eugene isn't all that devastating - but losing Glenn will make for good TV because they have the whole Rick and Daryl will want revenge the whole group mourning his death because he's been around so long and Maggie having a fatherless baby! That'll be way more devastating I personally think they'll go for that! But not long to wait only 12 days 😃😃😃😃😃
There were also linked documents documenting which episodes certain actors/actresses filmed and how many they have done...Like say Rick was seen filming episodes 1,2,3,4,5 and like someone else 2,3,5...but none...0 for Glenn or Abraham...everyone else though..even Eugene and Maggie...this was back in like May so a long time ago....but I do remember it...
I know maggie is alive because on tv there is an advert of season 7and you can see what seems to be maggies hair and her grey cloths and also eugine has a black eye so at the end of season 6 the death pov would be blurry
SPOILERS**** I think Daryl as being seen with the numbered shirts and probably a prisoner so the group cooperates with the Saviors more and the Right Hand Man video showing the blanket on him to throw us off, he's the shows money maker and new things need to be added to the show for his character and things removed from the main story, Daryl being a Prisoner, Dwight having fled from Negan and not letting him have his GF, as Negan is aloud "access" to any of his Saviors wife's or GFs anytime anywhere anyplace, Dwight originally being a coward and looking up to Daryl, even taking on his looks, because in the Comic Dwight drives a motorcycle and pretty much as Daryls style, Dwight was scared because of his disobedience to Negan for the previous things I mentioned, upon recapture he succumbed to Negan's demands, helping him out with capturing the Group etc etc giving up his GF and having the scars to show, THIS could lead up to Dwight's major major major role in All Out War, being the traitor to Negan and the Saviors to help the Group, Hilltop, and The Kingdom take them on, because of his knowledge about them and his role, hatred , and wanting revenge for what they did and took from him, this does happen in the story, verify if you want everyone, but to wrap this up I'm gonna predict that he will do this with the help of Daryl if it plays out the way I think, after all I explained think about it, it would make sense. for Dwight to help Daryl escape, (incorporating Daryl into the shows story arc) with Dwight's revenge , mutiny against the Saviors to help the Group and the Others fight the Saviors.
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Honestly and for the most part I found your videos to be insightful as far as speculation goes. I was being critical when I got to the point where I couldn't tell where one began and the next ended out the numerous ones you've posted lately.
So calm down and don't feed the trolls or you're gonna have a bad time, guy. Since I am a jerk I will subscribe and recommend your channel to even it out, so cheers.
Negan hits Daryl on the right shoulder after he tries to intervene in Abraham being Lucilled, but doesn't kill Daryl, instead, after killing Abraham, he kills Glenn as punishment since Daryl is already shot.
Michael McGuiggan that would be absolutely TERRIBLE. but I did see an interview with Andrew Lincoln saying that it may not happen the first minute but it will happen in the first episode and they won't drag it out the full length of the episode.
can you look into the first person camera shots from the finale last season...? why have those angles unless they are significant? I think it's one of the people from the van cause that's where the first person angle comes from, and the last time we.see this angle, it is from.who is sitting in the back of the van....who comes out last???? Glenn. just one reason I feel it's glenn. check it out, it's certainly interesting
Wasn't Steven (the actor who plays Glenn) with Norman (Daryl) on the shoot because of a car accident that happened and they both came out to help the people and see what was wrong??
If Negan turns when he swings (and you've shown that he obviously did), then why didn't he turn for the swing during the finale? Was this something they brought up after the finale, or is it a different swing altogether?
Classic Gaming Central that's a different swing they have 6/7 versions of the kill swing and also when they actually filmed him swinging in the footage used in the S6 finale none of the rest of the actors were actually present they had all gone home for the day, AMC also shelled out and filmed every one of the actors dying by Lucille so because the actors position can change and coz the actors weren't present when he was swinging I don't think you can take his body angle in account just like I don't think you can count the RV in the background to use as landmark - but that's just my opinion
in the end, right before he swings his bat, you cansee him moving to the right of the screen and a shadow on rick. so it cant be abraham, cause he is on the left
He says taking it like a champ and I really don't think Maggie could take a swing from his bat let alone "like a champ", the language used makes me think he was talking to Abraham
What about the pov theory in the last episode - from inside the van and then seeing Lucille? Does everyone think it was Glenn's point of view? I always thought it was michonne, but I guess she has been seen filming? Could it still be michonne and she was filming dream sequence or flashback? Also, does anyone still think that Enid was a spy and poisoned Maggie with the pickles?
Just an observation about Judith from watching the trailers. One trailer comments "we've been at this for 10 years" Judith was born in the very beginning. 1-2 years in. Shouldn't she be at least 7-9 years old by now?
I have said Abraham since before the bat. the whole episode they focus on him and Eugene, but Eugene is now stepping to a man's role in this. the only thing I see that points to Eugene a little more is handing the bullet blueprint to Rick. AMC says there are clues to who it was but everyone is so focused on the physical clues instead of the emotional clues shown throughout the whole episode. I am so ready for October 23rd.
What about when Glenn and Daryl (the actors in real life) got photographed when they helped a car crash victim? Maybe if Daryl is hiding a weapon and interrupts (the blanket falls down), Glenn is the one who must be punished by death. If it's true Daryl is taken hostage by the Saviors, maybe Daryl is remorseful and has a flashback/dream (or a hallucination like when he saw Merle in season 2) of a moment of just him and Glenn on a run. Also, Simon focuses on the RV, while the camera and first person view (except the end?) focused on someone in the van. All in all, I think it's both Abe and Glenn. That'll satisfy both requirements. Maggie, I think she'll live but lose her baby (we already have a baby on the show) so then she has an arc dealing with the loss of Glenn and their baby (after losing the rest of her family!). Eugene is starting to pull his weight and I think people like him (even more than Abe) so I don't think he's dying.
Does anyone find the people on the spoiling dead fans so frustrating as if you so much as question TSDF page, they attack! I don't think they have filmed in order, so them saying Glenn and Abe haven't filmed past episode 1, they may have filmed their scenes for 7A in the time when episode 1 would traditionally be filmed. From the second I saw 6.16 I thought Eugene and Michonne were LV, from what I've seen so far Michonne is safe, but not one photo of Eugene is weird. I think it will be Glenn and Eugene now, and Abe gets injured so is with Maggie at Hilltop. I hope the writers have out witted TSDF as this is such a big moment, for it to really be Glenn and Abe would suck and take away from episode for me.
Does Daryl look infected to you in those pics? Cause I'm thinking they bash Abe with the bat, Daryl tries to step in and they stab or shoot him, but they keep him like Michonne's pets. And it would be a constant dominance reminder for the group to follow Negan. And plot sweet revenge. :{
So I am an avid glenn fan and will admit to watching the whole series of walking dead 3 times now. I could be wrong but I don't think it's glenn and here is why. 1. The response from the first time they tried to kill him off was just very bad for the show so bad that they almost lost lots of fans. 2. I am pretty familiar with what glenn sounds like and well he has been in pain a great deal which means crying, sobbing, agony. Go to the trailer for right hand man and put the sound up to high. Now go to exactly 3:10 on the clip. The two first cries that are heard sound distinctly like glenn. He has a very particular and unique voice that is not like any of the other actors. Again, could be a whole hell of a lot of wishful hoping. But that is just what I observed.
I can almost guarantee its Abraham due to the fact he was at paracon at shooting star casino in northern mn on October 8 not a likely place for someone currently filming. ps he was the only cast member there
He does not switch targets, he picked someone up away from the group right? Also the secound swing could just be him swinging in a different direction, for exemple if "x person" felt down to Negans left side, so of course he'd need to change direction to keep bashing that skull.
In the other shots, the ring does not look anything like the pocket watch but it does here. I thought that was crazy the first time I saw the, but now I'm thinking its possible. Not knowing is driving the fans crazy!!!! The Mechonne theory made sense until seeing her with other cast members, but whose to say its not from last season. Less than 2 weeks and we will all know, finally!!!
This is actually simpler than a lot think, if you go to IMDB.com you'll see that Josh Mcdermitt and Christian Serratos (the people who play Eugene and Rosita) have recorded 41 episodes while Michael Cudlitz's Character (Abraham) only has 38 epidoes, despite the fact that the three of the appeared at the same time in the series. It's settled that only 3 episodes have been reported, which means that he's not in any of them. Hence, Abraham is dead. www.imdb.com/title/tt1520211/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
i wonder if maggie like faints im just wondering how abraham blood would splatter that far to hit ricks face also when that clip hit the remains are right next to where rick is kneeling. maybe maggie faints and they take her away and abraham moves closer to rick. just a thought
Sorry folks, we already know the people that get killed. Yes, you read that right, "people". They are Glenn and Abraham. The season 7 cast information has been released and both are only present in the first episode of season 7 -- in fact, the actor that plays Glenn is somewhere abroad shooting for another film.
the swing wouldn't make sense because in the finale you see the pov of the person getting hit and he didn't even move he kept his target and killed the target
In the promo that came out a hour before this video posted, at the end it shows an angle to the right side of Negan and it is him swinging to the right of Abraham which would be Maggie I did not see him move to the left so I think he killed Maggie and maggie put her hands on top of her head so that would explain the ring that looks like Maggie's and explain the gun missing because Glenn revolted and he shot him
Still think it's gonna be Eugene. Him being spotted on set after this episode doesn't matter, as they could hypothetically still be shooting scenes that become flash-backs.. to explain why he betrayed the group. Nobody's taking this seriously, lol. I posted a long explanation on another one of 999's videos, and nobody bothered to comment :P I'm still pretty sure of my theory, cause it makes most sense (to me at least). And it doesn't focus on irrelevant things like pictures, lights and shadows, and what-not.
sorry for long comments, the one below is worth the long read if you're familiar with the Comic story and if you want a little insight into the future how it could pan out and is definitely looking to be a possibly for Daryl being alive, staying alive.
I think it Abe because who ever died was to the right of Rick that's y he had blood on him and if it was Maggie then sence he was Otha next to her then there would be a lot of blood on him like if u agree
Looking back when Eugene showed Abraham how to make bullets it signaled the end. Given he was driving the RV. Negan may have come to the conclusion that he was far more important than he was. His story was ready to end. My other guess being Sasha since she has since started a new show on USA. Though the beating of a barbed wire baseball bat from a man seems a little intense on basic cable.
A quick note for viewers. Some of these theories in videos are spurred by YOUR comments and meant to be discussed. So before you automatically tear me a new ass, just keep that in mind. Some ideas might seem bizarre but that's why we discuss it..I mean people crawl under dumpsters, right?
999 Gaming he asked Rick if he ever lost a "right hand" man so will he chop off his hand you plz discuss this with all of us
hey bud lets touch on negan killing maggie and glenn(which means the baby too). yeah its a hard pill to swallow but swallow we most definitely will.(heheh) in the episodes leading to this the group look at glenn and maggie as a sign of hope, if they could do it so can anyone right? well negan coming in and killing the trio would fuck up the group more than anything. they just didnt lose their friends and an unborn baby, they lost hope of future. foreshadowing of this is before denise dies she sees the remains of a baby.....
LOL. ILU Kilz!
I never said she takes it like a champ, i think glenn does and maggie has an out burst negan says man you killed alot of my men and kills her too daryl tries to defend her gets knocked out and taken prisoner, abe tries to help gets shot. And at this point rick shits himself. And no negan the joke was not funny!!!!
killing a pregnant woman? they let a walker eat lori after her son cut his baby sister out of her! or has everyone forgotten to look at the flowers....they killed two young girls. come on maggie being pregnant wont stop them. plus another infant in a show about the zombie apocalypse?
I've been saying Eugene from the time the episode aired. Seemed like him giving the bullet recipe to Rick , him finally proving he has worth and value to the entire group, especially Abe, Rick trusting him to take the RV on his own, (where it seemed like he had his " moment on the show" as soon as he starts up the RV) etc, really closes out his story and maybe doesn't fit well with the entire story, but it really fits and makes sense with the way the episode played out.Eugene dying makes sense if you look at all the little things in the finale . Him "taking it like a champ" would fit perfectly for his character at this point too. Rick and Co finally saw he's a survivor , he knows it too at this point, and he's showing the group one last time that he is not weak like they've always thought and showed he always been strong, they are just seeing it when its too late. It just makes sense. Even after saving Tara in Season 5, no one took him that serious.
Has my theory changed with all the time in between and Spoiling Dead pics and Internet articles/videos?? Absolutely. More than likely Abe and Glenn is who is leaving, but it would be smart and a real shocker for AMC to change things up. You would have to think they are smarter than that and by this point , if true, know the spoiler is out there and we all know whats coming. The whole sneak peak two weeks before the premiere, was most likely done to stir things up , (Daryl's blanket, the ring?), and have us thinking it could be different. I also think Rick will keep his hand, from what Ive read Andrew Lincoln begged for them to cut it off in season 3 and they wouldn't bc it would be too hard to work around, so I think its just paying homage to the comics in the sneak peak.
Also a little off track here, but Season 5 episode 10 where Tyreese dies, they built a whole indoor set of Noah's house so no one outside the cast and show runners would know the Governor , Beth, Lizzie and Mike etc were going to be on set and it wasn't leaked. That was no where near as major as this, so if they went out of their way for that scene, you would figure and hope they would do a hell of a lot more for this one. I always though it would be a bigger shocker to just kill Glenn there at the end of season 6, since 99% of even non comic book readers know he gets it in the comics, bc we've seen him escape death so many times, that we thought maybe his TV character would even escape his comic book death. If Glenn and Abe (more than likely ) it was a wasted cliffhanger IMO. Sorry for long read here I can go on about how it a lot more but def wont
BTW I think some of the best interviews and Talking dead episodes are the ones with Josh Mcdermitt (Eugene) Dude is funny as hell so wouldn't mind seeing him stick around
I've been saying Eugene since the beginning as well. He gave up the bullet recipe, he finally grew balls, he was going on a suicide mission. Most importantly, cliffhangers work this way. They leave a HUGE QUESTION with a mild answer. Eugene is a more mild character, thus he dies.
The writer Robert Kirkman already admitted that the person that dies is most dearest to TWD fans... Eugene grew a pair but hes not worth a 6 month cliff hanger... It has to be Glenn, Daryl, or Abraham. Negan doesnt kill women. Plus it wouldnt be a good look for AMC to have a man beating the holy hell out of a sick pregnant woman with a baseball bat covered in barb wire on national television! -My 2 cents
Yeah thats why I said that Eugene makes sense with how the episode played out. But not how the whole story will play out. Thats why I think it would make sense to be him , but more than likely will not be him and either Glenn, Abe or both
Its tough though because when they say a major character is dying, you got to look at it the way we as viewers see who is and isn't a major character and from the show runners point of view see who is or isn't a major character . I think that the ones from the start (Rick, Daryl, Maggie, Glenn) or the first 18 episodes (seasons 1 and 2 ) as the true major ones of the show, , then obviously adding Michone, (even though she did arrive at the end of season 2), and Abe into the mix as major since they have been such big contributors to the show since they arrived, as the ones whose death would give us the biggest impact.
Problem is I think the show runners want us to think every one in that lineup to be considered a major character, regardless of when they came into the story . Basically all of the survivors including Aaron, Rosita, Sasha and Eugene they try to push on us as a major character, and even though I also dont agree with it, this is why its really tough to rule someone like Eugene or Aaron 100% out from being killed off. It does seem like a cop out, just like the double death is going to do to bring shock value. I still think the spoilers will end up true but my first choice was always Eugene. I figured if Glenn was gonna go they would have done it there and then. But at this point Im leaning more towards the spoilers being true and Eugene surviving
Actors being photographed on set means absolutely NOTHING. Am I the only one whose ever heard of the word FLASHBACK. Their characters can be dead, but you still need the very ALIVE actor to film flashback scenes. Seriously people.
Lori was in a couple episodes after her death, but they're already on the second half of season 7... it would be pretty hard to totally hide an actor for that long.
your right flashbacks happen but when a Abraham and Glenn haven't been spotted at all and all the other characters are on set everyday it's kinda easy to tell. and it's not Daryl cuz he's wearing the saviors prisoner outfit
Glenn may die this season but it doesn't mean he dies in the first episode. They could be sneaking him in there too. They did that when shooting the last episode of Seinfeld, snuck certain past cast members in.
Very true and they might pay them to come on set to hang around so people don't assume shit.
***** he isn't on set.
Can't you all just stop? It's the Cameraman who died. Case closed!!
I can't believe the camera man comments are still getting likes?!?
This was done on purpose, I wanted to make one last Cameraman joke before the final release (and to get a reply from you, of course. Thanks, you made my day. Now, please no hate, and don't kill me)
Thanks TGC! I appreciate the support and it's awesome to interact with people that enjoy the forums. Unlike that yo yo that posted above.
Hey well..There might be another video up later..so maybe it won't be the last camera man post.
***** what i meant is ME, making the Cameraman joke for the last time before the final release. Should've pointed this out.
I think if it was Maggie Rick would be completely covered with blood. Not just a small line
Maybe he bring the victim(s) up front ?
nah. he going in.
+D-Ray whoever got Lucilled didn't move, unless he did it to 2 people.......
That doesn't look like a blood splatter to me. Looks like somebody wiped in on him. That's a perfect streak on his face.
Burbing Berries That's what I'm beginning to think as well.
wasnt Abe married before he met Rosita, he may of kept his ring on him?
Yes and had kids...they were killed and he was about to blow his own brains out and that is when Eugene came into the picture
I remember him looking at a ring around the time Rosy and him were screwing in the library. It was around his neck with his dogtags i think. Could be remembering what I want though.
Evan Kempson that is an awesome theory Evan , one of the best out there , good job!!!
why thankyou
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If it's Maggie, people are gonna freak out cause she's pregnant...
Marty Harold Hope its Maggie, I don't want another baby in this show
that's what will make it badass lol
she was having a miscarriage I think, so there wont be a baby either way
Having a miscarriage wouldn't feel like that, but I don't see a half white-half Asian baby easily being casted especially cause they might also need a set of twins, so I agree with the no baby thing
Marty Harold In my opinion, the most unexpected and fucked up thing they could do, was to kill Maggie and Glenn.
you gotta think about it this way. if it were glenn or maggie alone, the other half would be screaming. so it's either both of them, or neither.
I was thinking the same
Havik One bingo. That's what I think is going to happen. I don't want glen to die at all, but if they die together, it'll soften the blow (no pun intended) for me.
Exactly what I was saying. I feel like Negan either starts beating or goes for maggie and Glen interferes and he kills em both.
glen and or abe.. her finger is not in the ring.. she probably lost it there.
Or it is just a tv show and they don't want you to find out who got killed by someone screaming.
All that stuff could be AMC or the producers of the show throwing people off the trail. I remember there were all indications that Glenn died at the dumpster and of course he didn't. If Negan kills him that will be very predictable. Maybe he'll be in a coma and that's why he's not being filmed. I saw Steven Yeun a month ago and his hair is still shaggy and he still has a beard. I didn't see Michael Cudlitz so I don't know if he still has the handlebar moustache. I've been a huge fan of Michael Cudlitz since "Band Of Brothers" and hope Abraham survives but even if he doesn't survive he'll get plenty of work. He always pops up on television. I think Steven Yeun will have a harder time because Asian actors have a hard time landing roles.
I hope you're right that Glenn is just in a coma, but I doubt it. Steven Yeun is already working on other projects.
Actually, you're the only one I follow because you're the only one that makes sense, and gets to the point without wasting my time. Thank you! I respect the fact that you're humble enough to admit you might be wrong, though you provide as much evidence as possible from your own perception along with your viewers' opinions. I don't know why you should have to keep reminding people of this, as it is very clear in your presentation; I just wanted to let you know you do an excellent job!
This is it,
Abe gets chosen
He get whacked
Glenn interfere
He get shot
Seems about right
Pretty much except i think Daryl interfer's and gets taken prisoner. Glenn then gets killed because of Daryls actions
David Farley yeah I thought that to,he's been in it since season 1 like cmon!
+David Farley I respect that idea and it does make since
KiddEcho_ sense I think is what you ment to write
Wouldn't it make more sense for Glenn to get wacked & Abe step in?
Great video, its getting closer😊👍 remember last year Josh McDermott read the ending of s6 and threw his script ? is it Eugene ?
I get it now he lands on Maggie but he switches half way from bashing her head in to bashing Abrahams head in instead cause Abraham was probably about to intervene maybe punch Negan in the gut Negan had a quick reaction bashed Abrahams head in first then he's about to go after Maggie again then Glenn interferes then he bashes his head in too. Negan realizes 2 is enough then goes to terrorize Rick which will result to Rick losing his hand in the RV
EXACTLY! You got it now!
Couldn't have because on the last episode, he was already hitting one person but that doesn't mean he didn't switch over in between each hit
KiddEcho_ The last episode and the new trailer are totally different angles and swings. Check them both again. There will be no continuity from last season.
KiddEcho_ yeah I think they rushed right into the bashing that episode cause they didn't have enough time but with the first episode of next season they do now
+999 Gaming oh I didn't know that, I'll check that out
Great video again! Been following these Negan kill theory videos pretty much since season 6 ended. You, along with others such as TrevsChan2, have been keeping me interested in the series - now the wait is nearly over and the hype is real!
Thanks for the support and the feedback. Reading the comments and interacting has made it worthwhile!
Can't be glenn if you think thats the pocket watch, cause in the new footage, when the camera changes when rick gets dragged away, its too close to ricks position, which im confident it's Abrahams position (As maggie would never have the energy to get back up in her condition after getting hit), and glenn is at the end.
Sure glenn might bite the dust too, i have a funny feeling a 2nd will bite the dust, cause glenn seems too emotional to just sit on his ass, he might just jump to attempt to attack negan, say either he's just dumb, or negan will wave his bat at maggie again. Or like They've done plenty of times and change things from the comics and glenn won't bite the dust.
But i still believe a 2nd will die, we know 1 does, amc are crazy enough to kill a 2nd just to catch us off guard.
hey killz, just wanted to say that I watch all your videos and you are by far my fave. you always explain your theories well, and where you got your info, and you have a good speaking voice. I also like that you use TSDF for a lot of your source info. there's one guy on here that I just can't get past how he sounds! but anyway, the main thing I wanted to know has been revealed, and now I'm just stoked for the premiere. I don't think they take ricks hand though.good job, good video, keep up the good work!
Why do people always have to make some kind of gay reference or sexual reference, for the record I'm female, I use my sons email to comment, so your immature comments are useless,rude, and totally uncalled for. But by all means, carry on, keep doing what you do, I've noticed that not only on this site but others as well it seems like there's some messed up person who just can't help themselves because they are so confused with their own sexuality that they have to troll everyone else, so keep it up so we all know who you are.
Damn you guys could just leave it alone. Just wait for the season to start.
Jason Loperena it's fun to speculate
Jason Loperena you don't need to watch
Right,Dammit don't spoil for us
mate, been loving your videos. Probably you already discussed this here but i have a feeling that Eugene goes, kindof couse in the finale he sortof stood up, was brave, gave all the intel about the makingof bullets to Rick. Its a strech, but again, when characters have that sortof remption moment its a dead sentence. There was no proper goodbye to neither Glenn or Abraham...but the show can surprise all and kill without paying them "respects".
I feel like I'm ready to be checked in to an asylum after wracking my brain all summer trying to figure out who meets Lucille.... 🙄😜😳
Jodi Harris 😂😂😂
*I think it would be good to end Glenn and Maggie by dying together I just can't imagine Glenn without Maggie or vise versa*
Great point! It would certainly shock the audience!
***** ikr! Thanks you for replying also :)
Um they did it in the comics and they are almost exactly the same people from comic to show
He could first aim at maggie just to put glenn more nervous...but switched to abraham
ShrimpCoating a lot of people are saying that, why would he want to make Glenn nervous? Why choose to mess with him? Michonne is to Abe's right so why wouldn't he mess with Rick instead?
That is probably what happened
Didn't he see how he reacted to Rick finding her hair on a walker though?
ShrimpCoating yeah true If negan does do this than that's probably how Glenn will also get killed when he interferes
Hey 999 I'm on spoiling dead fans page also . I have wondered about Glenn, Maggie, Eugene and Abe also . why no pictures of them 4 . Make's me wonder what the heck is going on.. Also if you look at the ring everyone is looking at look up some and hou will see what looks like a gold men's ring . I was thinking it looked like part of the watch .
i saw a picture that's of Negan from the final and this new clip and i don't see the gun .. i have been thinking maybe the gun come's into play like you said in another video.. You're video's have made this 6 months so much easier to get through.. thanks 999
Hey Tracie! Thanks so much for the awesome feedback. I always look forward to reading your replies. Let me know if Ninja and crew get something that shows Maggie or Eugene. It's really starting to worry me...
999 i will definitely keep my eyes open . And if i see any I'll let ya know .. keep the awesome video's coming ..
Hey dude, I don't think it's abe and glenn. even though people have been saying it's them because they're the only ones who haven't been seen on set reported by the spoiling dead, notice how amc always was at war with the spoiling dead, and now all of the sudden they could care less. I'm thinking the theory that they might be working together, having glenn and abe work in private, and having the actual victim come on set
excellent video as usual thumbs up! my thoughts on if its a ring is, i believe it could be bone, but to hard to tell. thanks
2 people end up dying folks. a main character but not there in 1st season, then fan favorite steps in and gets taken hostage, then because of his actions, Negan takes out a MAJOR character that's been there since beginning...
and this hostage will be gone at some point early this season too because the character blames self for the death of the 2nd person..
:-) so yes ppl, you may need tissues for premiere and then few episodes in, you may need to riot..
I heard the same except the fan fav is mistaken for another fan fav and has the 1st fan fav dies, the one since S1 jumps in to their demise.
The fan fav that has been taken hostage does make it out and survives the entire first half of the season. Photos have been taken. the fan fav was spotted with another person from season one, giving them a hug before the fan fav leaves for a while to cope with what happened
Can we PLEASE use names. I know we don't want to spoil it for others but now I'm just confusing myself.
Can we PLEASE use names. I know we don't want to spoil it for others but now I'm just confusing myself.
+Micavity Cat I'm now just going to use names bc I may not be right. I heard Abraham gets killed first and Glenn thought it was Maggie so he jumped in and also got lucilled. Daryl then tried to intervene but was taken captive
Hey Killshot so I thought about something after watching the trailer yet again. I think Glen/Abe is brought up from being picked. Rick being the leader who feels responsible steps up and volunteers to take the place of the victim. He's brought right next to the victim to "take the place of the victim" and with the first swing, Negan changes targets and kills Glenn/Abe (Probably Abe) anyway. Rick goes for his Axe (which could be hidden on him) to fight, Darryl follows and a few others. You hear a gunshot in the air. Qued in on Negan's gun ending the struggle. Then the scene from the trailer happens. When they come out from the trailer, Negan shoots Glenn/Abe (probably Glenn) killing him and takes Darryl hostage. Probably far fetched but I came up with it by looking at the blood splatter on Rick's face. He had to be right next to the victim when it happened.
My hand gets chopped of
Yep! Having your hand is important,i mean without it? You have a whole lot of work.
That care of your eye, remember you only got one left ;)
You mean that's not Carl and Negan, whaatt!!
I cant believe it, It can't be true, Nooo!!!!
(then again they not going to have internet)
Just like your sad life.
***** Come on!!. Leave Carl alone, hes been through alot!!
Carl remember to kill negan when he's not looking. (BTW who dies!!!)
999 these videos are so helpfull, keeping the suspense alive, great job👍🏻
Hey Josh! Thanks for the feedback and the support!
nice work kilz... man getting so close now... hmmm.. just hmmm... lol..
Thanks Mason..youtube will light up the day after!
certainly will... Rick's reaction was just I'm going to kill you.. I couldn't understand why he isn't kicking and screaming.. the blood on Rick's face may be his own.. remember Rick fidgeting with something on the ground around his knee.. coulda been the hatchet?? he takes action and gets smashed in the back of the head by Simon and falls face first to the ground.. then wakes up to negans speech.. would explain negans introduction of his right-hand man...
Mason Free Great theory. Now, I gotta go see if the ever took it from him.
Mason Free I think that's it's Maggie then Abraham comes in we can't forget the crying at the end of a man, could Glenn have been crying of just watching his wife and a good friend of his dying? Just my thoughts. :(
999 Gaming but you didn't see Negan turn when he hit (insert walking dead character) on the last episode of season 6
Why would the pocket watch be in the remnants of Glenn's head? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Glenn holding the watch ANYWHERE in the last episode - so, even if he has it on him, why would he take it out of his pocket and then cover his head; it's the only way it could be there but it still doesn't make sense. I think that Maggie's killed but covers her head, this destroying her hand and ripping the ring off her finger. Nicetaro said that there would be deaths, I think that if Negan kills Maggie, that's two deaths, and if he kills Abe too - that's three.
Maybe he was biting it to make sure the precious metals were real. Can never be too safe..counterfeits are EVERYWHERE!
I think its the pocket watch more then the ring because there is a line below the arch which looks like the rim for the glass cover.
Mama Lipster I agree. It looks too "beat up" with weird bends to be a small solid ring. But it easily match how a thin metal rim would bend.
Then how does Rick has a spray of blood in his right side of his face and why is there so much blood under his legs, its either maggie or abraham, i think it might be michonne but I know that its not glenn
WickedMonster//WM The spray of blood on Rick's face could be from Abraham who is much taller then Maggie is when they are kneeling down.
Yeh, agreed, I think its either Michonne or Abraham
Love watching your videos 999 Gaming hope you're still making them even when the Walking dead come's back on
As long as you guys all hang around..we will keep the forums and videos going all season!
If Abraham, Glenn AND Maggie dies then i'm not sure how i will take that. It would be pretty F'd up for sure.
My thoughts are probably the first one he killed is Abraham because he just said "it" to his victim and in the comics he said "bring him up" and the saviors brought Glenn (the comics) to the front. But he in the tv show once he said "it" he killed the victim no hesitation. And probably and of course the 2nd victim of Lucille will be Glenn. And he's the one gonna be on front so there's a good view of him dying. I believe that's why Rick has blood on his right eye/face because Abraham died first. I believe that's not a scratch it's just darkened makeup to make it more realistic.
Negan doesn't actually start killing the victim as soon as he says, you...are....it. He pulls the victim out in front of everyone. All of these videos are pointless. Saying who dies based on the Season 6 finale lineup is a waste of time. It was all for show.
Michael Kelley THANK YOU someone who agrees with me - every time I've made that comment I get a shitstorm of comments haha
but in the finale he doesn't drag them up. he just says "it", says his little thing and starts beating
Jake Wolf yeah in the finale he doesn't drag anyone up but they could've easily cut that part and cut to when he started beating
They already stated that how the finale ended wasn't exactly how everything happened. Remember in the mid-season finale when they were walking out of the house and the kid goes, "Mom, mom, mom!" That never actually happened when the continued it on the mid-season premiere. You will see in 2 weeks...
I've been saying that for months yet people keep analysing every shadow, lights, etc.
I watch this video before going to the gym to work my butt off Well done kilz with the video.
Its the pocket watch. I'll be so pissed if it's Eugene cause thats not even shocking!! And Maggie still has a BIG story to go through, same with Eugene. I still think it's Ave and Glenn. Do you still think it's them?
Mary Hough who's ave?
I meant abe. oops 😂
Andrea still had a HUGE story to go through when she died
Andrea and Sophia had a BIG story ahead and still died
I've been saying its Eugene. You fans are so stupid. Cliffhangers have a way of working. It always leaves a HUGE question, and has a mild answer,
Are you talking about the first kill, or a second kill when Negan switches? Won't the show start back off with what Negan saying "Look at you - taking it like a champ!" and beating someone to death at the end of the season finale? Are you saying the surprise switch from Maggie to Abraham would be then?
I hope it is Maggie.
I've been waiting 6 months for this shit. It fucking HAS to be.
Cool stuff.
I really like this theory and makes sence and you really pay attention to all details when I really just watch the trailer keep up the good work
Hey Jazmine and thank you for the feedback!
999 Gaming you're welcome
if michone dies I'm going to protest the show
I dont know if you remember but I'm the one that said I thought it could be Maggie. I did kind of stray from the opinion that it was Maggie after watching your videos lately 999, because you always make great arguments for who you think it is, but after watching the sneak peek, I am sticking to my original maggie theory. btw, you are my favorite Walking Dead discussion channel. Not to take away from the other guys, they do a great job and put in a lot of work too. But I think you engage us more with your topics and are definitely more interactive with your subs, and responding to comments, and people appreciate that. I spend at least an hour a day responding to comments on my videos, so I really appreciate when I see youtubers doing that. OK. back to what I was saying. Just a few things that I saw. First, the ring in the blood, or could be her ring. but it could also be something else, so really doesn't prove anything right now but, Maggie is right next to Rick, on his right, In the sneak peak, he has been splattered with blood and really if you look at it, that blood is quite a bit more than just a splatter. It was someone right next to Rick because that is a direct hit on ricks face from someone having their head bashed in that was super close to him. Blood spatter marks expand the further they travel, and this is just a solid streak of blood that didn't even have time to separate and create a spatter. Then, the biggest hint to me that it was Maggie is when Negan is having that little chat with Rick, where Rick says he is going to kill Negan. And Negan starts talking about right hand man, and how important that person is, and then asks rick if he has a right hand man. and rick just looks away. and so Negan then alludes to the fact that he may have just killed Rick's right hand man. In my opinion Maggie has been more like the right hand man than anyone. She's been stepping up her role, and has been doing a great job of being a leader, just like at the Hilltop, Rick wanted her to do the negotiations, and gain the experience. And she's been in that position a lot more the last couple seasons, of just taking charge. Daryll of course is Rick's right hand man, but in a different way, Maggie is like the political right hand man, but she can still handle herself and kill and be tough and bad ass when she needs to, but she's good at talking to other people and making alliances, and negotiationg, so Politically I see Maggie as Rick's right hand man. and that's it. i think I just have to stick with my gut feeling on this one. From the second I heard Andrew Lincoln say the day after the season six finale that this is the absolutel darkest episode ever. a few other things he said too, but when he said that, I tried to imagine who would be the absolute darkest death, and to me that would be Maggie and her baby. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I do believe that it could be between a few different people, and there are great arguments for each of those people. I don't know for sure who it is and I think nobody does, for the most part. I find it funny when I hear someone say it is "FOR SURE" this person or that person, but they have no clue I think it's cool to hear all the different theories though. Have a great day 999 and keep up the great work. Thanks, George
I'm still set on it being Glenn and Abe. I think maybe Abe gets killed, then Negan decides to kill glenn (maybe after Daryl interfering) and Rick could possibly try reasoning with Negan to let glenn go, but he kills him anyway. Which is one reason Rick is shown so angry in the sneak peak. And that could also be why Negan assumes he had just killed Rick's right hand man!
GREAT assessment! Thanks Amber!
***** haha, no problem! :)
2 people end up dying folks. a main character but not there in 1st season, then fan favorite steps in and gets taken hostage, then because of his actions, Negan takes out a MAJOR character that's been there since beginning...
and this hostage will be gone at some point early this season too because the character blames self for the death of the 2nd person..
:-) so yes ppl, you may need tissues for premiere and then few episodes in, you may need to riot..
thehnl I've probably said this a billion times already, but I AM NOT PREPARED! lol. I literally might go into mourning for awhile. I feel like this seasons going to screw me up for the rest of my life. XD I'm just so attached to almost every one of the characters in the line up. And I know Glenn will probably die, and he's the reason I actually started watching The Walking Dead, because while season 2 was airing, my sister was watching the episode where they send Glenn into the well to get the zombie out, and I thought he was hilarious. But once I started watching,I fell in love with everyone D: (except for Shane, Lori, and Andrea. I was hoping they'd die xD). Ughhhhhhh. This is going to kill me.
Amber Katelyn Yep this has been my theory as well for a few months now, i never planned on posting it because I didn't want to spoil it for anyone if it's right and I wasn't seeing the theory anywhere yet, but a few months later it finally started showing up
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what if that pool of blood is maggie's aborted baby??
Damn
Jeeesus.
Peter Quill Shit.... never thought about it like that. Damn.
umm....Maggie has JEANS on. Just how would the MISCARRIED baby get out of her pants????
a ring does not just teleport off the finger to which it was attached... Did anyone stop and remove the ring and toss it on the pile of carnage? Why? The watch, perhaps is this solution?
Why no blood splatter on negan?
I looked up pic's of Maggie's ring and it just doesn't look like hers to me...it looks too small to be the one Glenn gave her and the band isn't the same. my first thoughts too were did Abraham have a ring for Sasha...who else had jewelry...the watch seems more possible to me than the ring. her diamond was big and doesn't look like that setting even if she did get hit with a bat I just don't think it's hers. Thanks for the GREAT videos!
im really hoping they change it and keep Glenn alive, in my opinion the best way to go is Eugene and Abraham
Josh Lavallee I don't think they will all the actors have said in interviews it's going to be heartbreaking/devastating etc loosing Eugene isn't all that devastating - but losing Glenn will make for good TV because they have the whole Rick and Daryl will want revenge the whole group mourning his death because he's been around so long and Maggie having a fatherless baby! That'll be way more devastating I personally think they'll go for that! But not long to wait only 12 days 😃😃😃😃😃
Not a ring , Not a watch. Its bone if you blow it up you can clearly see its not a ring or watch
isn't it funny that negan has no blood on his face or clothes from all the splatter? hmmm.
Maybe the twist was the reason?
Grave they should of splattered blood on Negan to make it look more real..
Angela! How was the party?
"Mind if I borrow your fluffy blanket to wipe off this blood" - In Samuel L Jackson Pulp Fiction voice!
+Olympic Productions Makes sense.
There were also linked documents documenting which episodes certain actors/actresses filmed and how many they have done...Like say Rick was seen filming episodes 1,2,3,4,5 and like someone else 2,3,5...but none...0 for Glenn or Abraham...everyone else though..even Eugene and Maggie...this was back in like May so a long time ago....but I do remember it...
I think Maggie get the bat and Glenn gets shot in the head
she was already so weak and on verge of miscarriage so there's no way she could be "taking it like a champ"
thehnl well Negan said that like he was surprised. So it still could be her
I'd be surprised to if someone could still sit after taking Lucille to the head
But another theory is abe dies and that's it for a Lucile kill
Then Daryl interferes and gets shot
That's why the teaser trailer was "right hand man"
if u like it put a ring on it
I know maggie is alive because on tv there is an advert of season 7and you can see what seems to be maggies hair and her grey cloths and also eugine has a black eye so at the end of season 6 the death pov would be blurry
NoVaclan you can hear Maggie cry in the season 7 preview and people would freak the fuck out so I highly doubt it's her
It's not Glenn!!!!
Darth Gallade I don't think so either!!
This is all he says
+Darth Gallade Because it is Glenn
no its not
I think it's Glenn.
SPOILERS****
I think Daryl as being seen with the numbered shirts and probably a prisoner so the group cooperates with the Saviors more and the Right Hand Man video showing the blanket on him to throw us off, he's the shows money maker and new things need to be added to the show for his character and things removed from the main story, Daryl being a Prisoner, Dwight having fled from Negan and not letting him have his GF, as Negan is aloud "access" to any of his Saviors wife's or GFs anytime anywhere anyplace, Dwight originally being a coward and looking up to Daryl, even taking on his looks, because in the Comic Dwight drives a motorcycle and pretty much as Daryls style, Dwight was scared because of his disobedience to Negan for the previous things I mentioned, upon recapture he succumbed to Negan's demands, helping him out with capturing the Group etc etc giving up his GF and having the scars to show, THIS could lead up to Dwight's major major major role in All Out War, being the traitor to Negan and the Saviors to help the Group, Hilltop, and The Kingdom take them on, because of his knowledge about them and his role, hatred , and wanting revenge for what they did and took from him, this does happen in the story, verify if you want everyone, but to wrap this up I'm gonna predict that he will do this with the help of Daryl if it plays out the way I think, after all I explained think about it, it would make sense. for Dwight to help Daryl escape, (incorporating Daryl into the shows story arc) with Dwight's revenge , mutiny against the Saviors to help the Group and the Others fight the Saviors.
NEGAN KILLS MANY ua-cam.com/video/Tncl4Ewwkqo/v-deo.html
Eddy Monies Hey Eddy, Thank You for being a condescending sarcastic fucktard that only shows up on channel to leave half-witted moronic statements in an attempt to gain some form of credibility. Be the way, you're on my channel and vice versa....
Honestly and for the most part I found your videos to be insightful as far as speculation goes. I was being critical when I got to the point where I couldn't tell where one began and the next ended out the numerous ones you've posted lately.
So calm down and don't feed the trolls or you're gonna have a bad time, guy. Since I am a jerk I will subscribe and recommend your channel to even it out, so cheers.
Negan hits Daryl on the right shoulder after he tries to intervene in Abraham being Lucilled, but doesn't kill Daryl, instead, after killing Abraham, he kills Glenn as punishment since Daryl is already shot.
We will know in 2 weeks🎉😱
yes cant wait
I bet we don't know. I bet the first Episode will be all about Morgan and Carol. They will not play this till Episode 2.
Michael McGuiggan that would be absolutely TERRIBLE. but I did see an interview with Andrew Lincoln saying that it may not happen the first minute but it will happen in the first episode and they won't drag it out the full length of the episode.
Hope your right.
Michael McGuiggan I doubt the are that cruel lol
How the hell would a watch get near his head ,I've watched 30 videos and nobody knows
Not Maggie :(
is too :P
is not
Hey I would like to ask because mainly I'm curious but what would it feel like to be Luciled??? Anyone have an idea?
999 gaming great video keep the good work up
Thanks Luke!
can you look into the first person camera shots from the finale last season...? why have those angles unless they are significant? I think it's one of the people from the van cause that's where the first person angle comes from, and the last time we.see this angle, it is from.who is sitting in the back of the van....who comes out last???? Glenn. just one reason I feel it's glenn. check it out, it's certainly interesting
Wasn't Steven (the actor who plays Glenn) with Norman (Daryl) on the shoot because of a car accident that happened and they both came out to help the people and see what was wrong??
If Negan turns when he swings (and you've shown that he obviously did), then why didn't he turn for the swing during the finale? Was this something they brought up after the finale, or is it a different swing altogether?
Classic Gaming Central that's a different swing they have 6/7 versions of the kill swing and also when they actually filmed him swinging in the footage used in the S6 finale none of the rest of the actors were actually present they had all gone home for the day, AMC also shelled out and filmed every one of the actors dying by Lucille so because the actors position can change and coz the actors weren't present when he was swinging I don't think you can take his body angle in account just like I don't think you can count the RV in the background to use as landmark - but that's just my opinion
in the end, right before he swings his bat, you cansee him moving to the right of the screen and a shadow on rick. so it cant be abraham, cause he is on the left
I just think there HAS TO BE A PURPOSE for the 1st person camera views in the finale. please look into this
He says taking it like a champ and I really don't think Maggie could take a swing from his bat let alone "like a champ", the language used makes me think he was talking to Abraham
What about the pov theory in the last episode - from inside the van and then seeing Lucille? Does everyone think it was Glenn's point of view? I always thought it was michonne, but I guess she has been seen filming? Could it still be michonne and she was filming dream sequence or flashback? Also, does anyone still think that Enid was a spy and poisoned Maggie with the pickles?
Just an observation about Judith from watching the trailers. One trailer comments "we've been at this for 10 years"
Judith was born in the very beginning. 1-2 years in. Shouldn't she be at least 7-9 years old by now?
I have said Abraham since before the bat. the whole episode they focus on him and Eugene, but Eugene is now stepping to a man's role in this. the only thing I see that points to Eugene a little more is handing the bullet blueprint to Rick. AMC says there are clues to who it was but everyone is so focused on the physical clues instead of the emotional clues shown throughout the whole episode. I am so ready for October 23rd.
I think Eugene gets picked and then Abraham interferes and they both die and Maggie accidentally dropped her ring mid way through Abrahams beating
What about when Glenn and Daryl (the actors in real life) got photographed when they helped a car crash victim? Maybe if Daryl is hiding a weapon and interrupts (the blanket falls down), Glenn is the one who must be punished by death. If it's true Daryl is taken hostage by the Saviors, maybe Daryl is remorseful and has a flashback/dream (or a hallucination like when he saw Merle in season 2) of a moment of just him and Glenn on a run.
Also, Simon focuses on the RV, while the camera and first person view (except the end?) focused on someone in the van. All in all, I think it's both Abe and Glenn. That'll satisfy both requirements.
Maggie, I think she'll live but lose her baby (we already have a baby on the show) so then she has an arc dealing with the loss of Glenn and their baby (after losing the rest of her family!). Eugene is starting to pull his weight and I think people like him (even more than Abe) so I don't think he's dying.
I am still holding my ground that it is Abraham. Then again "two" Negan kills could mean Maggie and her unborn baby...
Does anyone find the people on the spoiling dead fans so frustrating as if you so much as question TSDF page, they attack! I don't think they have filmed in order, so them saying Glenn and Abe haven't filmed past episode 1, they may have filmed their scenes for 7A in the time when episode 1 would traditionally be filmed.
From the second I saw 6.16 I thought Eugene and Michonne were LV, from what I've seen so far Michonne is safe, but not one photo of Eugene is weird. I think it will be Glenn and Eugene now, and Abe gets injured so is with Maggie at Hilltop.
I hope the writers have out witted TSDF as this is such a big moment, for it to really be Glenn and Abe would suck and take away from episode for me.
Abraham has a ring, he gets Lucille, Daryl interferes but is held down, as a punishment Glenn dies.
Didn't Abraham always wear a ring because of his family from before ?
Does Daryl look infected to you in those pics?
Cause I'm thinking they bash Abe with the bat, Daryl tries to step in and they stab or shoot him, but they keep him like Michonne's pets.
And it would be a constant dominance reminder for the group to follow Negan. And plot sweet revenge. :{
So I am an avid glenn fan and will admit to watching the whole series of walking dead 3 times now. I could be wrong but I don't think it's glenn and here is why. 1. The response from the first time they tried to kill him off was just very bad for the show so bad that they almost lost lots of fans. 2. I am pretty familiar with what glenn sounds like and well he has been in pain a great deal which means crying, sobbing, agony. Go to the trailer for right hand man and put the sound up to high. Now go to exactly 3:10 on the clip. The two first cries that are heard sound distinctly like glenn. He has a very particular and unique voice that is not like any of the other actors. Again, could be a whole hell of a lot of wishful hoping. But that is just what I observed.
I can almost guarantee its Abraham due to the fact he was at paracon at shooting star casino in northern mn on October 8 not a likely place for someone currently filming. ps he was the only cast member there
Plus the last episode focused too much on how at peace Abraham finally was. and it seems that happens before all major deaths.
He does not switch targets, he picked someone up away from the group right? Also the secound swing could just be him swinging in a different direction, for exemple if "x person" felt down to Negans left side, so of course he'd need to change direction to keep bashing that skull.
In the other shots, the ring does not look anything like the pocket watch but it does here. I thought that was crazy the first time I saw the, but now I'm thinking its possible. Not knowing is driving the fans crazy!!!! The Mechonne theory made sense until seeing her with other cast members, but whose to say its not from last season. Less than 2 weeks and we will all know, finally!!!
This is actually simpler than a lot think, if you go to IMDB.com you'll see that Josh Mcdermitt and Christian Serratos (the people who play Eugene and Rosita) have recorded 41 episodes while Michael Cudlitz's Character (Abraham) only has 38 epidoes, despite the fact that the three of the appeared at the same time in the series. It's settled that only 3 episodes have been reported, which means that he's not in any of them. Hence, Abraham is dead.
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as soon as i saw Eugene hand over the bullet instructions,
i thought he was going to die.
guys at second 24 in the sneak peak u could hear Maggie saying Glenn in a way when someone gets killed
i wonder if maggie like faints im just wondering how abraham blood would splatter that far to hit ricks face also when that clip hit the remains are right next to where rick is kneeling. maybe maggie faints and they take her away and abraham moves closer to rick. just a thought
Sorry folks, we already know the people that get killed. Yes, you read that right, "people". They are Glenn and Abraham. The season 7 cast information has been released and both are only present in the first episode of season 7 -- in fact, the actor that plays Glenn is somewhere abroad shooting for another film.
the swing wouldn't make sense because in the finale you see the pov of the person getting hit and he didn't even move he kept his target and killed the target
do you think maybe only 1 is killed and then the other is critically injured
In the promo that came out a hour before this video posted, at the end it shows an angle to the right side of Negan and it is him swinging to the right of Abraham which would be Maggie I did not see him move to the left so I think he killed Maggie and maggie put her hands on top of her head so that would explain the ring that looks like Maggie's and explain the gun missing because Glenn revolted and he shot him
Nice vid Kilz!
Still think it's gonna be Eugene. Him being spotted on set after this episode doesn't matter, as they could hypothetically still be shooting scenes that become flash-backs.. to explain why he betrayed the group. Nobody's taking this seriously, lol. I posted a long explanation on another one of 999's videos, and nobody bothered to comment :P I'm still pretty sure of my theory, cause it makes most sense (to me at least). And it doesn't focus on irrelevant things like pictures, lights and shadows, and what-not.
and don't forget Maggie did have a blanket which we seen strewn on the ground. Daryl had a poncho , that's not a poncho on the ground.
sorry for long comments, the one below is worth the long read if you're familiar with the Comic story and if you want a little insight into the future how it could pan out and is definitely looking to be a possibly for Daryl being alive, staying alive.
I think it Abe because who ever died was to the right of Rick that's y he had blood on him and if it was Maggie then sence he was Otha next to her then there would be a lot of blood on him like if u agree
Sand in the boot isn't a tradition, just sand getting into the boots from walking.
Looking back when Eugene showed Abraham how to make bullets it signaled the end. Given he was driving the RV. Negan may have come to the conclusion that he was far more important than he was. His story was ready to end.
My other guess being Sasha since she has since started a new show on USA. Though the beating of a barbed wire baseball bat from a man seems a little intense on basic cable.