Why Paris Is Strangely Designed

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    Why Paris Is Strangely Designed
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    Video by:
    Oliver Franke
    Research & Script:
    Charles Street, Oliver Franke
    Edit & Animations:
    Oliver Franke
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  • @OBFYT
    @OBFYT  Рік тому +26

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  • @uvejspreza9879
    @uvejspreza9879 Рік тому +711

    As a former student in Paris in 2021, I was really impressed by the city transport system. Well-connected and efficient, minus the delays because at times some dude threw himself in the rails or a bag was forgotten at the train. Getting access to all modes of transportation for just 38 euros a month was an absolute bargain.

    • @haraldlenudpilc
      @haraldlenudpilc Рік тому +12

      Now more 50 € but yes that's the idea

    • @angora6881
      @angora6881 Рік тому +51

      @@haraldlenudpilc 50€ for students, if your over 25 it's now 90€ for a service that doesn't work well since this summer🤡

    • @luqmaanabrahams1971
      @luqmaanabrahams1971 Рік тому +19

      Im so jealous, my bus ticket is almost double that and is not evens a tenth as efficient as Paris. I live in South Africa

    • @lh2738
      @lh2738 Рік тому +5

      Well, now it's shit. Everyday there's a new problem

    • @Insaneronald
      @Insaneronald Рік тому +30

      @@angora6881 it's 84 not 90 + if you're employed half is paid by the company. If not you have the right to various discounts. I'm unemployed since September and it's free to me lol

  • @ramon475
    @ramon475 Рік тому +172

    The Paris public transport system is honestly amazing, it's extremely useful and extensive

  • @ezkymos
    @ezkymos Рік тому +15

    6:40 Yes it's 84.10€ but French laws constrain your employer to refund at least 50% of your transport cost, so it's only 42.05€ which is far less than the cost of a car with oil and insurance

    • @steezy2695
      @steezy2695 Рік тому

      Not everyone has a employer, or a employer in Paris

    • @ezkymos
      @ezkymos Рік тому +6

      @@steezy2695 Any employer (wherever he/she is) has to refund 50% of your transport in France. If you have no job, you maybe don't need to take transports every day so you should take tickets or daily passes (as weel as finding a job). Seniors get a ~50% reduction as well as students.

    • @marcbuisson2463
      @marcbuisson2463 Місяць тому

      ​@@steezy2695You can ask for support at the mission locale jeune if you're under 25 and not a student/employed, and they'll reimburse even more. I'm also highly suspecting Pole Emploi to also give some financial support there if needed.

  • @barmybarmecide5390
    @barmybarmecide5390 Рік тому +533

    "Not enough pay for drivers but somehow enough pay for new lines" seems a little facetious, given that a lot of the money for the Grand Paris project is coming from the national, regional and city governments, plus private investors

    • @davidmichels5295
      @davidmichels5295 Рік тому +5

      🙄

    • @CodeNameT3rror
      @CodeNameT3rror Рік тому +37

      Furthermore, given that these funds were allocated for these projects many years ago!

    • @walideg5304
      @walideg5304 Рік тому +28

      Yes. The project are paid by the state mainly
      The drivers are paid by their companies. And those companies are paid by the Ile de France region which uses tax, Navigo pass and tickets to pay them. Not by the state. So yes.

    • @Homer-OJ-Simpson
      @Homer-OJ-Simpson Рік тому +21

      Yeah, that whole section was terrible. French are known for striking for the smallest thing so for him to argue that they are wildly underpaid and his evidence is the strikes is a terrible argument. In addition, the did another strike after the pay hike! It’s just the French way - strike as much as you can.

    • @rogink
      @rogink Рік тому

      @@Homer-OJ-Simpson Looks like we in Britain have caught the French disease! Trains, then posties, nurses, all on strike. School teachers probably next :)

  • @Figue-
    @Figue- Рік тому +90

    I’ve lived in Paris my entire life and I can confirm the bike lanes are great since the pandemic ! I’ve being taking the bike every work day for the past 4 years now, and since 2020 there was a real increase in quality. There are more lanes and they’re now separated from the cars and the buses. If you come to Paris, rent a bike !

    • @mrflynn1205
      @mrflynn1205 Рік тому

      Paris is an absolute dump.

    • @nonokbh
      @nonokbh Рік тому +3

      yes but they need to finish them, stop the works on the streets and secure them ! Look t how the lanes are in Scandinavia !

    • @bellycurious
      @bellycurious Рік тому +2

      I did it last April. It was a blast! All day biking around Paris.

    • @SJRS700
      @SJRS700 Рік тому +1

      i have been to paris and the cycles are the biggest problem, its a disaster for pedestrians and cars alike. Like majority of them would just bump into you

    • @plumage.mp4
      @plumage.mp4 Рік тому +2

      @@SJRS700 It will get better with time, most parisians didn't cycled daily their whole lifes, they will learn.

  • @Sebiminator
    @Sebiminator Рік тому +187

    The first time I was in Paris, I was very happy my friend ce to pick me up at the train station. The metro is a fascinating and immense labyrinth. Right now I'm for the third time in Paris and I got to admit I really enjoy the metro system here. It's efficient, you can get everywhere you need and there are coming like every 5 minutes.
    But I can imagine it being quite annoying if you live here and have to constantly use it.

    • @crunchy_kvass
      @crunchy_kvass Рік тому +11

      I feel like daily users of most massive modern metro systems (not just Paris, but Moscow comes to mind) get accustomed to resting their bodies and minds during the various rides, and they restart themselves in time to catch transfers. I can't imagine that very many people grow to despise the routine, at least not even to the extent a bad urban commute where you're driving might.

    • @blanco7726
      @blanco7726 Рік тому +9

      @@crunchy_kvassI’ve done both in Paris, in rush hours it’s definitely less stressful to wait 5 minutes more for a train, than get stuck 5 minutes on every intersection. The only way car is less annoying, is 1. if you have a parking spot, 2. if it’s middle of night or 3. if you’re going to a suburb with bad connections.

    • @svenyboyyt2304
      @svenyboyyt2304 Рік тому +4

      Why would it be annoying to use all the time?

    • @backintimealwyn5736
      @backintimealwyn5736 Рік тому +1

      no it's not. It's fine. I was born here ,I feel like home in the metro. The only real problem is that crime is on the rise and less and less locals actually take it.

    • @CEDRICKB
      @CEDRICKB Рік тому +5

      I lived in Paris. Even though the metro was great, I hated it because I had to use it every day. I guess that's the problem with big cities: you spend a lot of time wasting your life on public transport.

  • @letrouvere2158
    @letrouvere2158 Рік тому +102

    2 corrections:
    all RER crosses the city except line E which has one end inside the city and the others end( it branches off) outside the city
    the rer E is going to be expanded to the West, not the East

    • @Emi_LDA
      @Emi_LDA Рік тому

      This will change soon !

    • @maeglow
      @maeglow Рік тому +1

      « Soon » is 2026 😅

    • @cdrw92
      @cdrw92 Рік тому +3

      @@maeglow Nope RER E will be extended to Nanterre la Folie in June 2024

    • @Katfully_foody
      @Katfully_foody Рік тому

      There's H too

    • @Emi_LDA
      @Emi_LDA Рік тому +1

      @@Katfully_foody the line H is a regional train line not a RER

  • @Geschichtsbananen
    @Geschichtsbananen Рік тому +33

    11:03 This isn't an RER train but a German ICE (Intercity Express)

  • @timotheerochotte6163
    @timotheerochotte6163 Рік тому +41

    As someone who lives near Paris and uses RER and parisian subway regularly I can confidently say that the transport system is really good when the trains are on time
    but I can understand why its difficult to use for tourists.
    Good video

  • @samwalton1579
    @samwalton1579 Рік тому +34

    Châtelet-Les Halles is unlike anything I have ever experienced. Major metro hub with a Westfield mall in the middle just to add to the confusion when you come up from the platforms and are searching for a way out 😵‍💫

    • @KyrilPG
      @KyrilPG Рік тому +4

      There's Shinjuku in Tokyo. It's pretty much a gigantic station-mall too, with a railway station on top.

    • @TheLegoPerson
      @TheLegoPerson Рік тому +3

      Ugh Châtelet is a nightmare, I don't think I've ever gotten out at the right exit, though I have accidentally discovered many

    • @lhananas8875
      @lhananas8875 Рік тому +2

      @@KyrilPG Having gone to both, I have to say that...... its a love/hate relationship I have for those two stations. You can literally spend a day there but its a literal nightmare, too many people, easy to get lost and if you want to cross both station from the beginning to the end ( Only YOU can describe what is the beginning and what's the end cause nobody really knows) you'll need 10 good minutes 😂😂

    • @KyrilPG
      @KyrilPG Рік тому

      @@lhananas8875 I've been to both too and love them both. Shinjuku's logic can be a little hard to get at first, especially when you don't speak nor read Japanese.
      But when you've traveled a bit it's not that complicated, there's international signage.
      And Chatelet les Halles is even easier to navigate since the major overhaul. The sectors are easily identified and the new silvery tiling and brighter mood lighting are great, giving a roomy and clean feeling.
      Maybe that's because I'm a born and raised Parisian.
      But my friends from across the pond also like it, they've lost their initial apprehensions once they tried it and just followed the signs.
      There's so much "legend" about it being a nightmare that most visitors have strong preconceived feelings well before experiencing it, so they brace for the worst or fear getting lost and don't really experience it with an open mind.
      I just told them it's like a rollercoaster where you shouldn't close your eyes and not resist the forces.
      In Chatelet just follow the signs and go with the flow : it's gonna be much easier than you thought. And they liked it for the energy and ant farm feeling.
      The one that can be a bit more confusing is the humongous Haussmann Saint Lazare - Auber - Opera (+ Saint Augustin & Havre Caumartin) underground complex, with 3 different stops on the same line M3 and 2 stops on M9 serving different parts of the complex.
      But it's quite fun and amazing to experience from end to end. Especially when simply stopping and watching the flow of people on the Auber RER mezzanine.
      The one that I really don't like for some reason is the Montparnasse complex : long connecting tunnels and weird layout but lacking the energy and quirkiness of Chatelet les Halles and HSL Auber Opera.

  • @0megax788
    @0megax788 Рік тому +184

    As someone who uses the RER A frequently, I would say it also depends on which part of the line (if it has multiple branches) you use. I only use the A4 (the one that goes to Disney) frequently, with occasional trips to Paris. This branch is by far the best managed and the best to use, it has the least problems compared to the branches on the west part of the line (Poissy/Cergy and SGL).
    One critic I can give to the RERs is that, contrary to the metro lines, RERs (and I'm guessing Transiliens as well) have few correspondences between other lines outside of Paris itself. It leads to very complicated situations when there is maintenance happening and a station has to be shut down. Around two months ago there were maintenance work on a station called Bussy-Saint-George, which was in-between the stations Torcy and Val d'Europe. To go to Disneyland, which is right after Val d'Europe, tourists had to get off at Torcy, take one of the two buses put in place to either Val d'Europe or directly Disneyland. Another example is the station of Nation, which is the first RER A station when you enter Paris, which was closed. The only way to get to other stations in Paris was to get off at a station called Val de Fontenay two stations before and take the RER E to Paris.
    So yeah, I hope we can at least have more correspondences outside of Paris and looking forwards for the Grand Paris Express.

    • @SoftJellauw
      @SoftJellauw Рік тому

      i agree as someone who use the same line you have to go to the nearest big exchange point to go somewhere you want which is nation that is RER and metro station

    • @avia994
      @avia994 Рік тому +1

      the other branch on the east side works well too (because it's RATP managed, and the poissy/cergy branch -not st germain- are managed by the SNCF)

    • @0megax788
      @0megax788 Рік тому +1

      @avia994 maybe it does but each time I see a "traffic perturbé" on citymapper or bonjour ratp its almost always the western branches 😅

    • @noefillon1749
      @noefillon1749 Рік тому +2

      Or you could go to Vincennes and walk to the metro line 1

    • @dinogt8477
      @dinogt8477 Рік тому

      no one cares

  • @karljones543
    @karljones543 Рік тому +28

    11:04 that's not an RER train, that's a German ICE (Intercity Express) train. Although the ICE does also have problems with punctuality.

    • @ThePixel1983
      @ThePixel1983 Рік тому +6

      And although the ICE goes to Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est, that's a German train station in the video. 😁

  • @huguesjouffrai9618
    @huguesjouffrai9618 Рік тому +49

    I've been living in Paris for a while, using the metro, the RER, the bikes etc. + I'm very curious about these matters I found this video to be a great and accurate synthesis of the subject.

  • @artimist0315
    @artimist0315 Рік тому +13

    Whenever I go to Paris, I am always pleased with how generous the metro system is here. You have metros everywhere, they barely take any time to arrive and it is very easy to go where you want. The only big problem are the stations themselves. I grew up in bruxelles and here you just have to go down stairs and you directly arrive in front of the metro, and then you only have to validate. Paris is a complete maze, where everything look the exact same because of the bathroom esthetic that's going on everywhere and you never know where you're going and you barely have any indication. While I understand it is to avoid over crowding, it makes it very difficult to find the right line and make you lose time in the corridors. It is not to say that Bruxelles is better than Paris, our metro is critically underdeveloped for a city this important and entire chunks of the city are not connected, and you can wait up to 10 min for the next metro. Plus there are theoretically 6 lines, but it is really 3 lines with minor differences, and one of them is an underground tram. Like one of the line, line 2, is the exact same as line six, but shorter. That means that you have no reason to ever take the line, and you have to change metro if you want to continue on line 6. Brilliant!

  • @guyphillips13
    @guyphillips13 Рік тому +84

    As someone who lived in Paris and London over the last couple of years, the Paris Metro was definitely better which is more and more plagued by resource problems. The Elizabeth line was a great addition, but the rest of the network desperately needs modernisation and staff (not so much drivers) are underpaid.
    Weekday transport is better in Paris than London as it has an amazing commuter network and it runs until after 1am. Also, Chatelet near closing hours was a pain - ended up almost getting locked in the adjacent mall. At the weekend, London used to have an advantage with the nighttube but it’s become less and less reliable in recent years. Plus, inner Paris is so much more walkable and conducive to bikes.
    From my experience in a European capital, Berlin probably has the best transport with its trams and buses included, since it’s so well integrated.

    • @iwasborn8470
      @iwasborn8470 Рік тому +6

      Agreed, the driver's (whom pay I remind are payed 65,000+ a year) keep whinging and going on strike, this has led to a neglect in funding for the actual stations/experience and the foundational staff.

    • @ixlnxs
      @ixlnxs Рік тому +1

      If you think Berlin is best, I assume you haven't lived in Madrid. 🤩

    • @guyphillips13
      @guyphillips13 Рік тому

      @@ixlnxs not yet ! Plan to visit this year

    • @BlackHoleSpain
      @BlackHoleSpain Рік тому +1

      @@iwasborn8470 Madrid subway drivers are paid 34,000 euros a year... quite more than most IT engineers I know. The most usual salary in Spain is 16500 €/y

    • @TheAvenger62
      @TheAvenger62 Рік тому +3

      Also paris metro, rer etc. is much more cheaper than London. London train fares are redicously expensive. I was once quoted 60 quid on peak to go from reading to paddington. Luckly I wasn't in a rush that day I thought screw that and decided to drive and park my car in westfield shepherds bush car park where it costs 10 quid for 24 hours and tube it from there. It's a joke how expensive rail is in england

  • @rogink
    @rogink Рік тому +10

    I'm pleased he put that bit in about the bikes. The Paris metro is well known, and as an occasional traveller to both, I'd say it's much cleaner, more efficient and comfortable than the London underground.
    London has made great strides with safe bike lanes, but we tend to go for crap like painted lines, or spend vast amounts on something the Dutch would be impressed with. Which means you mostly get nothing. Paris have gone for a compromise, so you get protection, even if it's ugly stuff like concrete barriers from road works. Which means they have gone from very little bike infrastructure to lots in a couple of years.

  • @Hollandstation
    @Hollandstation Рік тому +30

    Beside the automation on only two lines and the accessibility issue, I think this is a real good transit network. The combination of the fast RER trains with the more 'local' metro network gives a fast and dense network.

    • @orsaz924
      @orsaz924 Рік тому +4

      Metro line 4 is also in the process of being automated

    • @tarmil
      @tarmil Рік тому +2

      @@orsaz924 Line 13 automation is also planned, although for the much longer term.

    • @orsaz924
      @orsaz924 Рік тому

      @@tarmil I didn't know that. Nice!

    • @Clery75019
      @Clery75019 6 місяців тому

      @@orsaz924 Line 4 is actually already fully automated. If you count the 2 CDG airport shuttles and the Orly airport shuttles, that actually makes 6 fully automated GoA4 lines. With the Grand Paris Express 4 new metro lines, that should make 10 by 2026.

  • @leroiarouf1142
    @leroiarouf1142 Рік тому +12

    I live near paris and im proud of our train system especialy the RER

  • @videlina978
    @videlina978 Рік тому +29

    I've been living in Paris for 2 years and if I've got into the habit, like any real Parisian, of spitting on the metro😅 (especially line 13 which is literally hell on earth during crowded hours), I realize that I couldn't do without it and that the network is really great. Public transport is generally excellent in Paris.

    • @Difdauf
      @Difdauf Рік тому +8

      A true parisian must be grumpy otherwise you get fined.

    • @lisaw150
      @lisaw150 Рік тому

      I used to live between place de Clichy and place Blanche, so it was either line 2 or 13 for me. I think I took line 13 three times? That was enough for me to consider early retirement haha

    • @nonokbh
      @nonokbh Рік тому

      @@Difdauf ahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

    • @zxszert573hg46
      @zxszert573hg46 Рік тому

      Line 13 = cultural enrichment not any real Parisian ffs 😑

    • @lisaw150
      @lisaw150 Рік тому

      @@zxszert573hg46 nothing against the people on the line 13, on the xontrary! It's just that it's way too busy! It's also terrible for those living outside the city limits who have to travel on line 13 on a daily basis. Thankfully the network is being expanded northward to make the commute easier for those who rely on line 13.

  • @shawnodonahue1680
    @shawnodonahue1680 Рік тому +34

    Great video and very informative. With that said, live in a major city in the United States for any length of time, and you will say that Paris is light years ahead of any city here. I've spent a lot of time using the Paris metro system and would rather use it (happily I might add) over anything in the United States.

    • @scepter0143
      @scepter0143 Рік тому +11

      Most American cities do suck at public transport. I've found Chicago and the northern East Coast to have the best systems. It's not necessarily that Paris is light years ahead, it's more that the US is light years behind every other major city in the world.

    • @Emi_LDA
      @Emi_LDA Рік тому +5

      Im proud to say that I am Parisian and I don’t need a car at all !

  • @paulverot6399
    @paulverot6399 Рік тому +8

    As a parisian living near line 11 I am really excited about the new tarins (MP14 replacing the MP59). The handle problem never was a big issue for me, but I understand how people wouldn't like touching that piece of metal. Concerning the punctuality of trains, I blame the management system for not giving enough care to the conductors. And social movements essentially backed by the CGT are definitely in the right. Impeding the network is the best way to get your voice heard but it sure is annoying.
    anyways, your video was really interesting and quite complete. I wish you the best for your next videos .

  • @esteban.r11
    @esteban.r11 Рік тому +9

    line 11 is fine actually. its line 13 that is a real nightmare

  • @theobeaver
    @theobeaver Рік тому +17

    Just a slight correction for 11:21 the RER E line is expanding to the West not East. Was an interesting video though, keep up the good work 👍

  • @Victor_Gvne
    @Victor_Gvne Рік тому +3

    For the price per month, ~90€ it's huge, but nearly no pariser take the monthly subcripition (we take the yearly one).
    And when you work, your company is obliged by law to pay at least between 50% and 100% of your subscirption.
    In my case, they paid 100% of it 🤷

  • @amanciooo
    @amanciooo Рік тому +3

    As a Parisian, I can assure you that the transport network in the city is surely the best in the world, we have here a motto that says that you can go anywhere in the city while changing train at most 2 times, though the problem is more outside of the city, as out of 12 million inhabitants in the region, 10 million of them live in the suburbs. Outside Paris there are still many different transports available but they are way less reliable and the passing frequency is also way smaller than in Paris itself. That is why the Grand Paris project was started. This video was very interesting, though I think it would have been better to focus more on the suburbs than on the city itself, because that is the big challenge for the region, as transport in Paris are complicated to improve

  • @pau6062
    @pau6062 Рік тому +9

    I'd love if you talked about the Barcelona Metro! Loved the video!

    • @metalblind95
      @metalblind95 Рік тому +2

      I’d love to see that. As a french, I have great admiration for the Spaniards, what they did with their cities, transit and rail. Cheers

  • @imo6927
    @imo6927 Рік тому +7

    3:06 Minor correction, quarry is pronounced 'kwory'

    • @GWJUK
      @GWJUK Рік тому

      Seine has a different pronunciation too 😂

  • @_bearcat
    @_bearcat Рік тому +10

    Speaking of the RER, I think the French president announced that the RER system will be reproduced in 10 other cities in France a few weeks ago

    • @LaT00pe
      @LaT00pe Рік тому

      The "president" is piggy backing on previous ongoing projects in other cities, which started without his help and without waiting for him.
      They are a simple mirror of the German S-Bahns.

    • @_bearcat
      @_bearcat Рік тому +7

      @@LaT00pe 🙄...
      I'd like to know more. What are your sources?

    • @justsamoo3480
      @justsamoo3480 Рік тому +2

      I hope this is true, it’s about time that France starts to focus on cities that aren’t Paris

    • @LaT00pe
      @LaT00pe Рік тому +3

      @@_bearcat regions started working on it since 2014 thanks to the MAPTAM law.
      First results can be seen in Nantes (tram-train) or Bordeaux (official launch in 2018), and smaller results in Hauts-de-France (TERGV), ARA (unique ticketing system), Centre (capacity augmentation between Blois and Tours), and before COVID the Thello service on the line Marseille-Toulon-Nice for PACA.

    • @noefillon1749
      @noefillon1749 Рік тому +1

      @@justsamoo3480 It's actually a project in many metropolis, but many rail hubs are really saturated so a RER is sometimes impossible before extending capacity by improving the signalling (which is currently being implemented) and making new tracks.
      In Toulouse, a RER will be impossible before the first phases works for the HSR (= LGV) which will consist in extending the width from 2 to 4 tracks north of Toulouse to Saint-Jory and the actual HSR (by 2028) which will free some capacity on the classic line for more regional and freight trains. But projects of RERs are a thing since many decades. Macron only said this to take advantage of the Strasbourg RER which opened some days after his speech and was obviously planned way before he was president.

  • @zachryder3150
    @zachryder3150 Рік тому +21

    Who exactly was in Paris?

  • @riderramblings
    @riderramblings Рік тому +2

    At rush hour RER A is an absolute nightmare (except at it's extremities). It's so bad that a lot of people won't use it during these periods. Hopefully, the Grand Paris Express will help ease the congestion.

    • @zaydalaoui9397
      @zaydalaoui9397 Рік тому +2

      I take it everyday and I don't find it that awful, except when there is a problem, then it becomes a nightmare I agree because so many people use it and they all have to find alternative.

  • @oui164
    @oui164 Рік тому +2

    The part of the video about the catacombs is full of mystakes notably about the fine which is clearly not 3700€ except in the "val de grace". Most of the time, people caught in this place pay around sixty euros.

  • @FayotSonic
    @FayotSonic Рік тому +3

    We French (and especially Parisians) love to complaint about everything ! But we must admit that Paris Transit System is really efficient taking account of its longevity. Actually the system is built to make cars useless

  • @ledfloyd5647
    @ledfloyd5647 Рік тому +1

    I would like to say that if they remain illegal and potentially dangerous for the uninitiated, the Catacombs ("KTA") of Paris have been a major place of Parisian Counter Culture since the 1960's.

  • @BensonNyasae
    @BensonNyasae Рік тому +30

    People usually don't appreciate what they have until they are presented with other poor options. I visited Paris in Nov 2022. I found the ile de France transportation system quite efficient compared to many. It may not be the perfect but at least it works.
    P/s: I was caught up in the Nov 10th strike😂. I didn't mind since i had all the time on earth. I hope they were able to solve all their issues.

    • @joachimnijs1967
      @joachimnijs1967 Рік тому +8

      Exactly. Try getting around on public transit in cities of a comparable size like Rio de Janeiro (3 metro lines, "kind of" 3 light rail/tram lines and many, many buses) or LA (2 metro lines, 5 light rail lines and many, many buses) and you'll be very happy with the Paris system with all its issues and problems...

  • @GagaMEFr
    @GagaMEFr Рік тому +6

    well, I live in Paris and I really love our public transport. every time I travel around Europe I remember how lucky we are. I live inside Paris circle and the closest Metro station is 100 meters away from me, along another RER station (30 meters) and bus line (40 meters). I can't complain!
    More and more people are coming to Paris which makes the metro lines crowded always, also peopel that are not Parisians and work here, take it every day (more than 15 million)

  • @MirceaAgrigoroaie
    @MirceaAgrigoroaie Рік тому +1

    Gave up commuting using RER B and the metro lines after 3 months. I was getting depressed and spent about 3-4 hours a day in 'sardine' mode. Bought a 125 scooter and then a bigger 500c 3 wheeler and never looked back.

  • @jeanbobillier
    @jeanbobillier Рік тому +1

    I'm from patis and all the information is impressively accurate, this is great!

  • @tgustafson85
    @tgustafson85 Рік тому +12

    Made friends with some fellow parkour athletes from Paris, and they took me into the forbidden Catacombs. Definitely worth it!

  • @solalflechelles1216
    @solalflechelles1216 Рік тому +2

    I think an important problem with the age of the metro is the density of stations.
    The Paris metro is the densest in the world, and on average in Paris you're about 500m away from a metro station. What that means is that though you're unlikely to spend much walking to and from a station, you'll spend a lot more time on the train. Because the stations on any line are close together, the train cannot accelerate much, and it spends more time stopped at a station as well.
    The Paris metro is slow. Line 14 was a huge change for this reason, and it certainly helps that its station are much further apart.

    • @KyrilPG
      @KyrilPG Рік тому +1

      Lines equipped with tyres tend to compensate their frequent stops with strong acceleration and braking, that helps a lot.
      And the thrill ride is part of the charm ! 🤣

    • @Clery75019
      @Clery75019 6 місяців тому

      That's why the Paris metro is complemented with the RER network that allows crossing the city with much fewer stops (on average one every 2km). Any large and dense city would ultimately require such a double-scale network. That is the case in NYC, Tokyo, Berlin or Paris.

  • @stongaasali
    @stongaasali 11 місяців тому +1

    Half of the Navigo Pass cost is payed by the users employers. So technically when you have a job that requires a daily use of transport, it costs half of the 84€ you spoke about

  • @MichaeloApC
    @MichaeloApC Рік тому +2

    I must disagree that illegal part of Catacombs is not intresting. It is actually really intresting with lots of arts, cultural and historical relics remains, incredibly intresting rooms and tunnels and tones of secrets to discover. I was there few times and thats one of the most amazing things i have ever done honestly

  • @veezerrscharnhorst
    @veezerrscharnhorst Рік тому +13

    Paris is strangely designed: the buildings surrounding arc de triomphe are designed to rise up to reveal giant guns and spare parts

  • @Furitokama
    @Furitokama Рік тому +1

    Line 11 trains are called MP59 but there were actually built in 1966. These trains are going to be replaced by next years. Replacement was delayed by the fact that a new maintenance facility needed to be completed with the new extension of line.

  • @Woompawoompa
    @Woompawoompa Рік тому

    Parisian here. I use the metro a lot, line 11 in particular.
    The lack of staff and all works being done atm made the metro a very very shitty experience lately, even more since last September. Even small lines have become crowded, it feels like its rush hour all the time.
    Good job on the video !

    • @Clery75019
      @Clery75019 6 місяців тому

      There is definitely a Paris metro driver recruitment issue as frequency has become lower. Outsider will tell you that 4 minutes waiting for a train is good, but considering most trains are only 75m long, they fill up very fastly, therefore you need higher frequency if you want them to not get jammed.
      The other problem is that in order to make the city inaccessible for cars, they clogged all surfaces traffic, including bus, taxis, delivery trucks, professional vans, motorbikes, bikes, etc. This has deteriorated trafic flows and increased the number of metro users in the same time, leading to a harder experience to move around the city. Rather than clogging surfaces traffic the way they did, they should have instead totally banned private cars from the center and make it so other trafic could flows smoothly.

  • @icreatedanaccountforthis1852

    Can't wait to try using this one day.

  • @UnspokenChicxulub
    @UnspokenChicxulub Рік тому +2

    Coming from a local, line 13 is my least favorite line. I will usually prefer taking busses to taking this usually packed, loud, humid, and dirty train line between my school and Montparnasse.

  • @ognjenmilicevic8530
    @ognjenmilicevic8530 Рік тому +1

    strange but works is the best description for the paris network… and also little remark RER E is expanding to west not east.

  • @NCR-Veteran-Ranger-O-Casey
    @NCR-Veteran-Ranger-O-Casey Рік тому +3

    Got really surprised about the stock-fotage of German ICE-Trains on a Video 'bout the Paris metro. at 11:02

  • @emmettl7953
    @emmettl7953 Рік тому

    Those planners are true masters on using curves, focal points and knots to weave an incredibly efficient network.

  • @stephaneberthaud9991
    @stephaneberthaud9991 Рік тому

    Nice and well documented video, congrats ! even as a Parisian, I learned a few things here thanks to this !

  • @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598

    Not a bad video but the title is misleading. This isn't about Paris's design, only its public transport network.

  • @MrTomtomtest
    @MrTomtomtest Рік тому +2

    That Navigo price is still cheap AF when compared to the UK.... For a much better network....
    The entity exploiting the network isn't the one financing its construction... RATP pays employees, it doesn't pay extensions, that's public money.
    The closed off catacombs are actually pretty interesting, but you better go with someone that knows the place don't try it on your own (you probably won't even find an entrance tbh).

  • @cagataycoban3093
    @cagataycoban3093 Рік тому

    i love these kinds of videos it's so interesting ! will we get a video about brussels soon ? :D

  • @lukasrentz3238
    @lukasrentz3238 Рік тому

    Just outside of Paris, in Clamart, such a Limestone Mine collapsed in 1961. A Neighbourhood collapsed into the Tunnels, killing 21 People.

  • @ln2deep
    @ln2deep Рік тому

    I’d recommend cycling everywhere. There has been a lot of effort to improve cycle paths throughout the city. I’d add a few complaints such as metro entrances without ticket machines, unclear signage and a couple of hub stations that are unwieldy.

  • @carljo002
    @carljo002 Рік тому +1

    On which lines does any of the older stock run?

  • @Hession0Drasha
    @Hession0Drasha Рік тому

    I am excited for the ongoing rail electrification/upgrades to the danish network

  • @CONDOM_MAN
    @CONDOM_MAN Рік тому

    You need to make a vudeo on how you make the edits on the maps , when it says open street map at the bottom

  • @Superfluous.
    @Superfluous. Рік тому +1

    Where I live, by car, it takes me 15-30 mins to get to work depending on how much traffic there is. I live in the capital, mind you.
    By public transport, it takes me anywhere from 1h30 to 2h depending on traffic as well.
    Why? Because, for some reason, whoever planned the public transportations for the outskirts thought it was a brilliant idea to make those passengers circle half the city, as if enjoying the _same_ urban landscape for over an hour every day would brighten their day.
    Paris having plenty of lines just encourages people to actually use public transports. The fact that I save between 2 and 3 hours of my day just by taking my car to work makes the expenses on fuel and monthly maintenance worth it. Besides, imagine what a person can do with those *extra 40-60 hours every month* on a side hustle. It's like I'd have the part-time job of commuting. No thanks.

  • @marvellousmeatball123
    @marvellousmeatball123 Рік тому +1

    I love how you complain about the RER delays and show background footage of Deutsche Bahn 😂
    Great and interesting video btw!

  • @user-vo1um7kx8h
    @user-vo1um7kx8h 5 місяців тому

    Louis 16th: “Our quarry inspection department is tasked with inspecting the tunnels to see if their structurally sound by adding supports and filling cavities”
    OBF: *shows pic of 6 million skeletons as pillars and filling the walls 😅

  • @rulipari
    @rulipari Рік тому

    The random German Intercity Express trIan near the end really threw me off.

  • @kroooassant9899
    @kroooassant9899 Рік тому +7

    We have the special forces training in the catacombs every once in a while but that's also to make sure it does not get populated because the place is huge, the place has many urban legends, everybody as heard stuff about it like satanic parties and stuff like that. There are some places that can be very dangerous as he says you can die falling in very small and deep pit and nobody will find you.

  • @rockieworld3730
    @rockieworld3730 Рік тому +1

    When I worked in Paris my employer had to pay half of my navigo pass since I lived 40min away. Not sure if it's still the case now.

  • @lucas_dameron
    @lucas_dameron Рік тому

    Awesome video :)
    There's actually 5 metro lines and 3 RER in chatelet!

  • @jeremiasrobinson
    @jeremiasrobinson Рік тому +3

    Very informative videos. The audio EQ is hard on my ears, though.

  • @duuttdh
    @duuttdh Рік тому +8

    Thank you so much man. Your channel is the best because the quality behind these videos is insaneeee. Well Done!

  • @XPCuts
    @XPCuts Рік тому +1

    the metro is very easy to understand in 3 days

  • @phlarrdboi
    @phlarrdboi Рік тому

    as a former person who used to live in paris for a while, i can tell you that i used to take the metro a LOT. I was a commuter, so I know a lot about it. I used to get on and off the trains and go through the stations i even had a carte orange, which insiders will know means i really was a regular user. So i know what I'm talking about.

  • @dustin628
    @dustin628 Рік тому +1

    How was this video sponsored? It was just a rambling opinion piece on Paris metro.

  • @gleam7138
    @gleam7138 Рік тому +2

    very interesting, God bless you guys ✝️🫶

  • @paulquirke79
    @paulquirke79 Рік тому +1

    For the majority of Parisiens 50% the 84€ cost of the navigo is covered by their work. It’s a legal requirement for large companies to pay this

  • @aliemirduran5530
    @aliemirduran5530 Рік тому +2

    Does anyone else think OBF might not know What he’s talking about?

  • @annach109
    @annach109 Рік тому

    187 million euros per km is not bad. Ontario line in Toronto Canada is set to cost $1 billion Canadian dollars per km, and that’s before it even started. In with local budget overruns there is no way it would be cheaper, but likely more expensive

  • @jjjjjf7
    @jjjjjf7 Рік тому

    You should look into the story of the lady who ended up under the rer b and survived. Her hand got stuck in the door and she slipped underneath. Shes absolutely traumatized but it's an interesting story I guess

  • @NowOnYoutube
    @NowOnYoutube Рік тому +4

    I have a book about this and it's kinda unfortunate how a line could be abandoned like that

  • @bluesberrysmoothie69420
    @bluesberrysmoothie69420 Рік тому +2

    At 11:00 that is an ICE in a German Station....

  • @adamcheklat7387
    @adamcheklat7387 Рік тому +2

    1:08: There’s also Budapest.

    • @thehun1234
      @thehun1234 Рік тому +2

      The Budapest Metro 1 was opened in 1896, 4 years before the Paris one. Of course, we like to skip over the fact that the second line opened more than 70 years later ;-)

  • @fredmunoz7350
    @fredmunoz7350 2 місяці тому

    That image is Manhattan. It's not the entire city of New York. That image would be like showing an image of Hollywood and calling it Los Angeles.

  • @pauljansen1137
    @pauljansen1137 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the effort....this Channel is very informative....have a great New Year!!!!

  • @tflm9802
    @tflm9802 Рік тому +2

    Title of the video and the content are completely different... I am so confused, are you talking about town planning or providing a history about Paris's Metro system?

  • @ezkymos
    @ezkymos Рік тому

    6:10 and in summer, because of the tires and brake system, it's an undergound hoven. No A/C, almost no wind/air.

  • @flancrestenterprises945
    @flancrestenterprises945 Рік тому +3

    Paris has an amazing public transport infrastructure. I live here and don't need a car because I can get to anywhere else in the city in less than an hour for under two euro. For those few areas that are a little further from the nearest metro stop, they also have a fantastic network of bike lanes, with bikeshare points on every other street. I've never been in a city with a better setup.

  • @Lillireify
    @Lillireify Рік тому +1

    For me the worst part of using Paris metro system as a tourist is lack of information online about ticket variants, costs etc. Researching this was a nightmare, information on official transport site sucks (I had to use a private blog that some good Samaritan wrote, I mean really?), and I wasn't able to check how pricey it will be for me to go from station A to B to evaluate if one week ticket will be a good idea or not. The ticket zoning in Paris is also weird af, whose idea was that?

    • @isegard2957
      @isegard2957 Рік тому +5

      reason why you talk to the ticket vendor who guard the gates they will give you the best options according to your need

    • @Lillireify
      @Lillireify Рік тому

      @@isegard2957 that's awesome, although not really helpful when you're trying to assess how much money you need before travelling to France :D

    • @isegard2957
      @isegard2957 Рік тому

      @@Lillireify depend how long you planing to stay. I would suggest buying weekly pass which cost like 20 euros each week

  • @ElectroRome
    @ElectroRome Рік тому

    Great video! Although I think RER is going to be expanded to the west, not east 😊

  • @BruneSixtine
    @BruneSixtine Рік тому

    Besides the Grand Paris Express, the absolute priority should be the automation of all the lines with drivers. So when there's a strike, parisians could still use the transports !

  • @Emi_LDA
    @Emi_LDA Рік тому +2

    Im proud to say that I am Parisian and I don’t need a car at all !

  • @OGSoundFX
    @OGSoundFX Рік тому +1

    Nice video :)
    By the way at 11:02 it's a German ICE train ;)

  • @zaydalaoui9397
    @zaydalaoui9397 Рік тому

    Most delays in Paris are due to users, not really mechanical or technical problems. Anytime a person leaves a bag, or crosses the rail or whatever, it stops the whole line and delays everything. That being said, technical problems have become more frequent due to the aging systems.
    The metro as mentioned has a lot of stairs and is not very friendly for handicapped people and families with babies and strollers.

  • @shift-happens
    @shift-happens Рік тому

    We used to rave down there in the 90 :)

  • @thegrumpydragon7601
    @thegrumpydragon7601 Рік тому +2

    Went to Paris and my biggest thing was go to catacombs but it was packed and never was able to go inside

    • @momusufan964
      @momusufan964 Рік тому

      Did you try buying tickets before going ?

    • @thegrumpydragon7601
      @thegrumpydragon7601 Рік тому

      @@momusufan964 nah , we where hunting to get covid test for we could fly home & seen it.

    • @isegard2957
      @isegard2957 Рік тому +1

      @@thegrumpydragon7601 yeah the thing is you gotta book ticket online beforehand or you can't get in. They limit the entries per day

  • @macjonte
    @macjonte Рік тому

    Maybe time to visit Paris this spring. Is there night train to Stockholm? :)

  • @alioshax7797
    @alioshax7797 Рік тому

    The Metro in general is great, the main issue is crowd, especially in RER. But, well, I don't think there is any solutions to that in a 12 millions inhabitant city.

  • @PaulMayeul
    @PaulMayeul Рік тому +1

    I'm from Paris and no, line 11 isn't a pain to ride in, and I don't want them to change the trains

  • @Maximannik
    @Maximannik Рік тому +1

    The footage at 11 minutes is definitely not a Parisian train nor line B 😅 otherwise its a nice video. I lived all my life in Paris but traveled to many other places, I have to admit Paris network is really really huge and crazy, just a pity it is a bit run down in some parts.

  • @Blaqjaqshellaq
    @Blaqjaqshellaq Рік тому

    I heard they found a movie theatre in one of those tunnels!

  • @hamzawaykonect2016
    @hamzawaykonect2016 Рік тому

    Gare de Lyon its my nightmare first time i dropped there , i got anxiety lol

  • @matthiasmayer7328
    @matthiasmayer7328 Рік тому

    11:05 showing delays with a German ICE train :D

  • @drugspotatoes
    @drugspotatoes Рік тому

    at 11:15, the trains we see are not RER, I'm not even sure those are french trains