what season are you playing in, you MUST be lying. Tanks rn can deal so much damage and take none even against champs they shoud be weak against.@@sparkyanimations213
@@kauanjos3199 no one was talking about axiom arcanist. we were talking about his passive in general and interactions with items like horizon that also increase damage in genera.
@@2amce355No. Shojin is garbage on him. The lowest cd he has is 5 seconds on q. He can’t weave spells to get any use of it, e and w are both 10-15 second cooldowns most of the time. The biggest change here is last stand and all of the other runes at the bottom row of the precision tree
True damage is really stupid especially how they executed it in game Having no counter play whatsoever and basically telling you to end yourself before they end you
It would be fine if the true dmg had fixed dmg, that way building health would be a direcct counter. But most of true dmg is based on health % leaving only one counter, kill them before they killl you
True damage was once given to champions like Vel'Koz. And then it was balanced, because it has a rather complex activation condition with fixed damage.
@@ИльяВейнаров Yeah but Vel'Koz's true damage is beyond busted. The range, slows, cc and how spammy the abilities including being able to move during them & all are with not that much mana cost is insane. If you land 1 or 2 combos you can insta kill anyone really. Only good thing is Vel is incredibly squishy but the range makes it so hard to get to them
you guys have no idea wtf you want, 1 second you are complaining about tanky being way over powered, with no counter play, then now you complain about them buffing the number one counter to tank, yall just like to complain for the fun of it
@douglaswalker7707 Yes but every time I am not the one laning against them my troglodyte teammates feed the shit out of them and they have no counterplay when fed
Oki now the question is.. if they want to make true damage more consistent.. does it mean they are going to fix some ability that give damage resistance apply to true damage when they obviously shouldnt ? Or did they, like with everything, forgot about it
oh do you mean the %damage reduction compared to defences? there's nothing bugged there, damage reduction reduces your total incoming damage. it's not bugged it's intended, unless there's something i don't know of. Anathema's chains were an exception since they would have decreased by 25% the true damage recived.
Yep i dont what these guys are talking about except i think the flat damage reduction for bone plating and the 1k gold armor item nothin else reduces true damage. @Wavinto
@@Wavinto Here is the thing, I don't know if they fixed it but some characters had their damage reduction abilities reducting true damage, vandril made a video about it a long time ago (if I remember correctly, if not it was another youtuber) while other were not reducing true damage
So ok, you take an already uncounterable type of damage that is incredibly hard to manage...and makes it even stronger...why? Why Garen needs another buf seriously?
I think their goal was to give more reasons to play counter to the tanks that are dominating the current meta. It's a stupid choice because they have in parallel buffed the tanks that have true damage, but probably this was their idea.
I dont think that's a good idea since, when you take a look at it, most true damage in the game is already at unhealthy amount like Darius, Camille, Cho'Gath dealing 1k+ true damahe is already absurd and Fiora and Vayne dealing %hp true damage kinda lacks counterplay.
Even if it was physical or magic Dmg it would still kill you as it would be tuned be reliable true Dmg doesn’t matter it only allows champs to build somewhat tanky and still do Dmg. Which most champs can do anyways with or without true Dmg
i mean august has said that the whole thing about vayne having true damage is that your on a timer fighting vayne, which is still a bit bs with the amount of selfpeel vayne has. but I definitely agree that there is too much true damage (or damage in general) I honestly think that assassins and burstmages are slowly losing their identity due to everyone getting insane amounts of dmg, riot definitely needs to turn the overall dmg down by like 10-30% aside from assassins and burstmages, AND THEN NOT TURN THE DAMAGE BACK UP AGAIN I DONT CARE THAT TANKS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT HARDLY BEING ABLE TO KILL PPL, THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB. I DONT CARE THAT PEOPLE ARENT ABLE TO ONE SHOT OTHER PPL ANYMORE(aside from burst focused champs) THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE
Wait a minute, you want to say, formerly, some amplifiers, such as Coup de grace, Cut down, Last stand, etc., which literally say _“deal №% increased damage”_ without any clarification, did not increase all of your damage?.. And, according to the third paragraph of the Spideraxe's post and some comments below this video, same with damage reduction effects, such as Exhaust, which literally just says _“reduces their damage dealt by 35%”?.._ And I'm supposed to discover, which effect actually does what it says (e. g. Spear of Shojin, Haunting guise) and which has unnoted exceptions, anywhere but outside the game itself? (like just now I rechecked about true damage at «LoL Wiki»)? Really, Riot?
I'm not sure if sett, at least normal sett is gonna be affected that much. Conqueror only increases adaptive damage, which the haymaker already scales with, but doesnt increase the power of his abilities like say spear of shojin does.
Buff true damage, not nerf tanks who are nearly unlikable without it and can out damage carries. Typical riot putting a band aid on the problem and not actually addressing it. Let’s address Heartsteel
@ no, because changes like this are made to address an issue. Which the issue currently is tanks being near unkillable while doing massive amounts of damage due to Heartsteel.
@ bro no, that is not what this change is adressing. its adressing the problem that increases to true dmg is inconsistent. thats what its fixing. u cant expplain to me why PTA and coup the grace didnt increase truie dmg, but axiom arcanist does. and items do apparantly. but this isnt mentioned anywhere. first strike too. this is, an EXTREMELY minor buff to SOME true dmg users. the most notable is vayne. sure, it will help out garen and darius too, perhaps fiora will be slightly tempted by PTA, but its mostly just about making the bottom 3 precision runes make true dmg also increase, as all the items and axiom arc does. also tanks are very killable. crit items just suck.
I would like to have a honest answer from the riot balance Team on following question: The W and Ult of Mel, the Changes to TP and now this...who asked for it? For real idk, are u bored or why u need to ignore the lit 1000 other problems that are existing in leagues balancing and only make it worse? Maybe its a sozial experiment: How many tickets can our support system handle until it crashes or our employes are quitting...just make it make sence
As a top lane main. The changes to TP were necessary in some fashion, because so many champions would TP and still run you down like a dog in lane if they were slightly ahead, because of how much of a mess the lane is, same goes for team fights, if you were facing a nasus. You leaving to TP benefits your team, had unreasonably huge impact. And if the nasus went. Even if he doesn't die, he still ends up behind because of it, theres a lot of reasons behind the change for a lot of champions and reasons, but i feel top lane will always be the most impacted with TP/resistance items.
why wouldnt it work bro ? like why would it be a special case? it calculates the flat and the percentage, adds them together, and then multiplies it by the amp’s percentage. But like why tf would it not work, what’s the line of thinking here…..?
Shojin, liandry and riftmaker will now increase your true dmg with the last two increasing ignite's dmg While axiom arcanist just increases the ult dmg regardless of the damage being true dmg or not it just cares if your ult counts as an aoe spell or not
not just PTA, just all sources in general. which sure, is PTA, but also other sources like bottom 3 runes on precision tree. then theres situations like champions doing % more dmg, and when they do true dmg it doesnt work atm.
i better hope so. I had a camille build that was built around the idea of "What if true damage can be amped?" and a counterbuild that was "What if true damage could be reduced?" while the counter one does not work aymore sadly (Rip anathemas chains) if i can damage amp camille's q to the degree i have my suspicions, it WILL be ugly
@@kev1310im gonna be honest, tanks aren't overpowered and this is gonna impact bruisers more than it does tanks imo, its more-so the tank items that are problem, if they're not on the cheaper end, their stats are insane, a lux bought a banshee veil against my sylas and i watched his damage flatline to her when he was full ap lmao, the resistance numbers seem wacked out.
why? for the sake of consistency. why exactly does it work with dmg amp from items, but not runes? it doesnt say it anywhere. or anywhere in the game. someone who doesnt know, isnt gonna easily find out that coup the grace doesnt work on darius ult. and if or when they find that out, why would they think shojin would work? or axiom arcanist?
As a dedicated Rumble enthusiast, I am excited to experiment with Axiom Arcanist rune. With 700,000 mastery points as a Rumble ADC player, I am looking forward to an enjoyable experience.
It stated that it worked on some champion and riot is making it consistent to work for every source of true damage before it worked only for ultimates and Camille q since her true damage is unique she transforms her damage into true damage so the damage is increased then transformed into true damage.
Not quite. Before this change, the only way to increase true damage was through item passives, like Shojin, Haunting Guise, Riftmaker, yada yada, but it didn't interact with things like Press the Attack
... damage amp from items has done this already. Except those also affect smite, ignite, and red buff. You could literally make abilities that do true damage deal 60-75% increased damage. Even ones without scalings. Are they really that understaffed that they didn't know this?
I dont feel thats the play. Because tanks would probably be less picked, if their entire team is AD/AP, and they shred you before you can engage or really lockdown. It'll make your role useless.
Interesting buff considering the massive abuse of top garen in KR right now with axiom anarchist and ignite allowing him to literally kill you a little over half hp, now he can kill you at 75% hp while moving at lightspeed and still being incredibly tanky
True Damage is absolute crap from my point of view. It's simply the result of the fact that Riot doesn't manage to balance damage and resistances properly. The worst is True Damage like Vayne and Garan, which you can't even build against
I don’t get why they need this true damage already is viable the issue is hp pools are too high so anything that doesn’t deal true damage doesn’t do well into metas like this…. Like why is true damage buffed and not things without it
why riot is so horrified to just make tanks be TANKS, it's not like they got a huge playerbase, those guys are always the top demage of my matches evern tho they biuld full tank items, just make tanks tank, if amor pen is suck an issue just make itens that alow tanks to counterplay it, really can't understand what they are thinking
Let's buff the most unhealthy type of dmg, instead of buffing composition, team building etc. I think this game needs champion synergy just like Marvel Rivals, it makes the game more fresh and you always see different kind of champions.
Wait....so that Lol Dobby video of the garen main "supposedly" becoming even stronger because of Axiom Arcanist, wasn't actually real? It was all Placebo? Nah that's crazy.
no, cus it did work. it literally tracks the dmg in game aswell. the point is to make it consistent. it works some places, other places not and it doesnt make much sense. coup the grace, cut down, last stand.... these dont work on garen ult. so this would change for instance. and for other ppl with true dmg, like fiora darius cho vayne etc...
Sure buff true damage, but there is no proper way to mitigate true damage... Build more health they said to counter true damage, vayne laughs and shreds you in 0.5 seconds because of your max hp...
Didn't it already do this? Atleast some true damage could be buffed for example Smolder burn by shojin/liandry and Sett W damage was buffed by shojin aswell.
yes, which is why its being changed. it wasnt consistent. some runes worked some didnt, item dmg amp generally worked tho. but coup the grace wouldnt work for true dmg.
Darius and Sett will terrorize toplane. Last stand will increase Darius R (if you add axiom arcanist and gathering storm...) And Sett W by a lot. Now whether its better top go PTA or CONQ IDK yet
@@palnic3832 this already works, and has been working since axiom was out the only difference for fiora is that PTA and coup de grace didnt work before on her vitals people already took PTA for earlygame power in some matchups, but with this change it wouldnt nerf her lategame anymore and probably be her best rune in all matchups
These changes make sense for riots way of thinking. Riot is always trying to make new champions stronger and old champions weaker, and thus establishing a more rigorous meta where new always wins vs old. It also makes the game less about skill and more abusing the meta. These changes work very well in that regard, since true damage is more comon in modern champions than old champions, thus increasing the balance gap. Riot is destroying the game, and their methods are cirurgical
You say that but don't most of the old champions have true damage, and newer ones don't have as much? Sett and Gwen are the only two that come to mind that aren't old.
@KOHoxton depends on your concept of old. Vel koz, Camile, new fiora, ksante, Bel Beth, smoulder, are all new for me. Only yi olaf and vayne are truly old champions with true damage in my opinion
@@Strawberry_Soda. bro, vel koz came out in like 2014. hes ult didnt have true dmg at first, but was added in like 2016... we are closing in on 9 years since that happened. thats not "new". camille also came out in 2016. "new" fiora was 2015... and yi got his true dmg in around 2013, which is very close to these other "old" chamoions u listed. so idk what u rly intend to convey here.
@Cryoptic_ That's why it all depends on your concept of new. If you started playing league yesterday, those are all old champs. If you started playing league since the open beta (like I did) those are all new champs. Now, It's no secret to anyone that the amount of true damage in the game objectively escalated in modern league, just like mobility. And I am only speaking of champions with a LOT of true damage, I'm not even talking about other new champs like yone. And this is why, riot is cleverly buffing true damage, to increase the unbalance gap between old and new
Wow if only rek'sai had some true damage in her kit it would really help her to get out of the hole riot put her in when they reworked the kit... Oops seems like I was about 10 months late
wait... so this means, my CHO ult never got axiom buff because it was true damage...? ... rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What? True damage ia already cancer vs tanks, building more HP doesn't usually help and they buff it? Man, Vayne top is already reportable, now I have to ban her 24/7
That's a really interesting change, how do you think will benefit the most from this? 😺
is this live in s1.2 patch or is in pbe only?
I don’t like it. As a tank main I already get blown up by everything and this makes it worse again…
can you link the sources in the vid description
vel'koz is going to be so op ult + liandry's torment
what season are you playing in, you MUST be lying. Tanks rn can deal so much damage and take none even against champs they shoud be weak against.@@sparkyanimations213
So...not the band true damage...but the damage type...
I had the same thought 😢
SAME😢😢😢😢😢
me too (not the movement)
I was so excited for a new song until my brain actually worked through that not making sense lol
I got clickbaited so dam hard, he knows this too judging by the thumbnail
Riot doesn't know how to nerf tanks so instead just increase true damage haha
I mean they‘ve been buffing tanks and nerfing max hp damage focused characters like gwen, fiora, vayne, etc for two years now
It's good@soupsnorter6990
Heartsteel buff incoming once this goes live 🤡
Such cope. In high elo literally nobody plays tanks
@@moogiwatta what are you smoking?
Finally, my ap garen will be able to use Axiom Arcanist!!!
phase rush
Axiom arcanist already increased garen ult
what he said
Shadowflame Garen/Pyke OP!!!
garen actually uses Axiom Arcanist (((:
so....its a velkoz buff,buy horizon,liandrys and deal more dmg with pasive
they already increased true damage
Doesn't change for vel koz axiom already incresed his ult true damage.
@@kauanjos3199 no one was talking about axiom arcanist. we were talking about his passive in general and interactions with items like horizon that also increase damage in genera.
@@piece-kun4168 nah horizon already increased it theres a reason why smolder gets spear of shojin
@@kauanjos3199 but his passive that does true damage
i'm wondering how well would this work on Sett W
Maybe shojin 🤷
True damage?
@@2amce355No. Shojin is garbage on him. The lowest cd he has is 5 seconds on q. He can’t weave spells to get any use of it, e and w are both 10-15 second cooldowns most of the time.
The biggest change here is last stand and all of the other runes at the bottom row of the precision tree
@@nimrodszocs2795 late game sett has more or less 7-8 cooldown of W, with the strongest build you can use on him
@@nimrodszocs2795 Atleast his Q applies Shojin twice. 2 Q autos and an E gives 3 out of the 4 stacks.
I clicked the video expecting the true damage band to comeback
True damage is really stupid especially how they executed it in game
Having no counter play whatsoever and basically telling you to end yourself before they end you
It would be fine if the true dmg had fixed dmg, that way building health would be a direcct counter. But most of true dmg is based on health % leaving only one counter, kill them before they killl you
Tanks are disgusting and need counters
True damage was once given to champions like Vel'Koz.
And then it was balanced, because it has a rather complex activation condition with fixed damage.
@@ИльяВейнаров vel'koz still has true damage and it still does a shit ton of damage if you land all 3 abilities on someone
@@ИльяВейнаров Yeah but Vel'Koz's true damage is beyond busted. The range, slows, cc and how spammy the abilities including being able to move during them & all are with not that much mana cost is insane. If you land 1 or 2 combos you can insta kill anyone really. Only good thing is Vel is incredibly squishy but the range makes it so hard to get to them
Ah, so Riot IS really trying to shoo all the players away. Good to know.
you guys have no idea wtf you want, 1 second you are complaining about tanky being way over powered, with no counter play, then now you complain about them buffing the number one counter to tank, yall just like to complain for the fun of it
whaaa, they are nerfing wholesome tankss????
@@douglaswalker7707 Idc about tanks, Vayne and Darius are stupid champs
@ vayne isnt even that strong right now, and darius is shit in any elo gold and below
@douglaswalker7707 Yes but every time I am not the one laning against them my troglodyte teammates feed the shit out of them and they have no counterplay when fed
Does this mean Gwen Q can one shot faster?
it sounds like so, maybe pta will be an option too
now we are talking lets go, she will able to heal now more with her q
She Will be in every Game lmao
Oki now the question is.. if they want to make true damage more consistent.. does it mean they are going to fix some ability that give damage resistance apply to true damage when they obviously shouldnt ? Or did they, like with everything, forgot about it
oh do you mean the %damage reduction compared to defences? there's nothing bugged there, damage reduction reduces your total incoming damage. it's not bugged it's intended, unless there's something i don't know of.
Anathema's chains were an exception since they would have decreased by 25% the true damage recived.
@saveborg1091 Damage reduction abilities don't reduce True damage though
Yep i dont what these guys are talking about except i think the flat damage reduction for bone plating and the 1k gold armor item nothin else reduces true damage. @Wavinto
@@Wavinto Here is the thing, I don't know if they fixed it but some characters had their damage reduction abilities reducting true damage, vandril made a video about it a long time ago (if I remember correctly, if not it was another youtuber) while other were not reducing true damage
So ok, you take an already uncounterable type of damage that is incredibly hard to manage...and makes it even stronger...why?
Why Garen needs another buf seriously?
speaks volume when you say garen is a problem xD, you are either a tank player or iron 5
@@Mcrays1337 Garen is currently strong in high elo too dipshit ?
@@Mcrays1337 i can see you ve never played vs a good phase rush garen
@@Mcrays1337 Ya know garen was a problem in pro play as well when it was garen&yuumi bot meta.
I think their goal was to give more reasons to play counter to the tanks that are dominating the current meta. It's a stupid choice because they have in parallel buffed the tanks that have true damage, but probably this was their idea.
I dont think that's a good idea since, when you take a look at it, most true damage in the game is already at unhealthy amount like Darius, Camille, Cho'Gath dealing 1k+ true damahe is already absurd and Fiora and Vayne dealing %hp true damage kinda lacks counterplay.
skill issue
thanks rito-rds.
Even if it was physical or magic Dmg it would still kill you as it would be tuned be reliable true Dmg doesn’t matter it only allows champs to build somewhat tanky and still do Dmg. Which most champs can do anyways with or without true Dmg
They might just nerf specific champs with true damage hopefully if this buff is too big
i mean august has said that the whole thing about vayne having true damage is that your on a timer fighting vayne, which is still a bit bs with the amount of selfpeel vayne has.
but I definitely agree that there is too much true damage (or damage in general)
I honestly think that assassins and burstmages are slowly losing their identity due to everyone getting insane amounts of dmg, riot definitely needs to turn the overall dmg down by like 10-30% aside from assassins and burstmages, AND THEN NOT TURN THE DAMAGE BACK UP AGAIN
I DONT CARE THAT TANKS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT HARDLY BEING ABLE TO KILL PPL, THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.
I DONT CARE THAT PEOPLE ARENT ABLE TO ONE SHOT OTHER PPL ANYMORE(aside from burst focused champs) THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE
Wait a minute, you want to say, formerly, some amplifiers, such as Coup de grace, Cut down, Last stand, etc., which literally say _“deal №% increased damage”_ without any clarification, did not increase all of your damage?.. And, according to the third paragraph of the Spideraxe's post and some comments below this video, same with damage reduction effects, such as Exhaust, which literally just says _“reduces their damage dealt by 35%”?.._ And I'm supposed to discover, which effect actually does what it says (e. g. Spear of Shojin, Haunting guise) and which has unnoted exceptions, anywhere but outside the game itself? (like just now I rechecked about true damage at «LoL Wiki»)? Really, Riot?
From the title, I thought there were going to be more skins for True Damage skinline. Got my hopes up for a sec there.
tactical sett nuke has been engaged.
I'm not sure if sett, at least normal sett is gonna be affected that much. Conqueror only increases adaptive damage, which the haymaker already scales with, but doesnt increase the power of his abilities like say spear of shojin does.
So important question. Since it now gets affected by damage amps, it means it also its affected by damage reducttions?
(Sona's, W exaust, grit, etc?)
Prob not, since there is written " still unaffected by debuffs"
Buff true damage, not nerf tanks who are nearly unlikable without it and can out damage carries. Typical riot putting a band aid on the problem and not actually addressing it.
Let’s address Heartsteel
every came to mind, that maybe this hasnt actually got anything to do with the current state of balance?
@ no, because changes like this are made to address an issue. Which the issue currently is tanks being near unkillable while doing massive amounts of damage due to Heartsteel.
@ bro no, that is not what this change is adressing. its adressing the problem that increases to true dmg is inconsistent. thats what its fixing.
u cant expplain to me why PTA and coup the grace didnt increase truie dmg, but axiom arcanist does. and items do apparantly. but this isnt mentioned anywhere. first strike too.
this is, an EXTREMELY minor buff to SOME true dmg users. the most notable is vayne. sure, it will help out garen and darius too, perhaps fiora will be slightly tempted by PTA, but its mostly just about making the bottom 3 precision runes make true dmg also increase, as all the items and axiom arc does.
also tanks are very killable. crit items just suck.
I would like to have a honest answer from the riot balance Team on following question:
The W and Ult of Mel, the Changes to TP and now this...who asked for it? For real idk, are u bored or why u need to ignore the lit 1000 other problems that are existing in leagues balancing and only make it worse?
Maybe its a sozial experiment: How many tickets can our support system handle until it crashes or our employes are quitting...just make it make sence
As a top lane main. The changes to TP were necessary in some fashion, because so many champions would TP and still run you down like a dog in lane if they were slightly ahead, because of how much of a mess the lane is, same goes for team fights, if you were facing a nasus. You leaving to TP benefits your team, had unreasonably huge impact. And if the nasus went. Even if he doesn't die, he still ends up behind because of it, theres a lot of reasons behind the change for a lot of champions and reasons, but i feel top lane will always be the most impacted with TP/resistance items.
I have not yet seen a comment on Master Yi. He also deals true damage. I misunderstood the video?
I was looking for this too 😂
so does this work with garen's R true dmg since it not only has % but also a flat amount it?
why wouldnt it work bro ? like why would it be a special case? it calculates the flat and the percentage, adds them together, and then multiplies it by the amp’s percentage. But like why tf would it not work, what’s the line of thinking here…..?
ofc? why would it not?
@@nimrodszocs2795 weirdly hostile...
does this also count for the blue potion ture damage?
But is it only from PTA?
Axiom arcanist already increased true damage on garen's ult, Thing like shojin also did
They want garen to one shot full HP champs pressing R
Shojin, liandry and riftmaker will now increase your true dmg with the last two increasing ignite's dmg
While axiom arcanist just increases the ult dmg regardless of the damage being true dmg or not it just cares if your ult counts as an aoe spell or not
@@LEO-BLAZE shojin already did as it was, Darius Ult and Olaf E were all increased by 12% by Shojin
@cosimocosimo2319precision tree last row runes, last stand, cut down, coup de grace
not just PTA, just all sources in general. which sure, is PTA, but also other sources like bottom 3 runes on precision tree. then theres situations like champions doing % more dmg, and when they do true dmg it doesnt work atm.
Does this mean damage reduction effects will also reduce true damage? That would make sense.
i better hope so.
I had a camille build that was built around the idea of "What if true damage can be amped?" and a counterbuild that was "What if true damage could be reduced?" while the counter one does not work aymore sadly (Rip anathemas chains) if i can damage amp camille's q to the degree i have my suspicions, it WILL be ugly
no, it says "still unaffected by debuffs"
@@panpan4757 well that is just wonderfull.
@@panpan4757 they'll have to nerf many of the true damage champions for sure then
@@distraction2803 eh not really, the only think it majorly affects is just coup/last stand which is only like 8%
Why
Tanks op
@@kev1310im gonna be honest, tanks aren't overpowered and this is gonna impact bruisers more than it does tanks imo, its more-so the tank items that are problem, if they're not on the cheaper end, their stats are insane, a lux bought a banshee veil against my sylas and i watched his damage flatline to her when he was full ap lmao, the resistance numbers seem wacked out.
@@KOHoxton bruisers build HP
why? for the sake of consistency. why exactly does it work with dmg amp from items, but not runes? it doesnt say it anywhere. or anywhere in the game. someone who doesnt know, isnt gonna easily find out that coup the grace doesnt work on darius ult. and if or when they find that out, why would they think shojin would work? or axiom arcanist?
As a dedicated Rumble enthusiast, I am excited to experiment with Axiom Arcanist rune. With 700,000 mastery points as a Rumble ADC player, I am looking forward to an enjoyable experience.
There's a special place in hell for you, my friend.
PTA Fed Sett unleashing the BOMBA white stream of damage
i could take his white stream of damage 😳
Just what we needed the most... Thanks riot.
Is this live or on PBE?
this is live
is this in live server? (edit: no lmao)
I thing that damage amp already works with True Damage, right? Like how Shojin works for Camille or Garen?
It stated that it worked on some champion and riot is making it consistent to work for every source of true damage before it worked only for ultimates and Camille q since her true damage is unique she transforms her damage into true damage so the damage is increased then transformed into true damage.
Not quite. Before this change, the only way to increase true damage was through item passives, like Shojin, Haunting Guise, Riftmaker, yada yada, but it didn't interact with things like Press the Attack
0:52 Axiom aranist didn't work on garen R before these changes??? How come it shows bonus damage on R when i play garen ?
its a bug either way, either it gives bonus dmg even though it shouldnt, or it doesnt give bonus dmg but shows that it does
... damage amp from items has done this already. Except those also affect smite, ignite, and red buff.
You could literally make abilities that do true damage deal 60-75% increased damage. Even ones without scalings.
Are they really that understaffed that they didn't know this?
Is this live or next patch?
Kog maw passive is busted now, it triggers so often they don't even realize it
I'd rather have tank items nerfed and true damage removed from the game, these buffs might get out of control once tanks are out of the meta.
I dont feel thats the play. Because tanks would probably be less picked, if their entire team is AD/AP, and they shred you before you can engage or really lockdown. It'll make your role useless.
Interesting buff considering the massive abuse of top garen in KR right now with axiom anarchist and ignite allowing him to literally kill you a little over half hp, now he can kill you at 75% hp while moving at lightspeed and still being incredibly tanky
i wonder if exaust works on gwen, vayne, etc....
Genuinely curious how this will effect Kog passive stocks
true damage is already unfair for what it is. now damage amps work but not damage mitigators? damn
So this means that Camille, who has a cho'gath ult on a 3 sec cooldown, will be able to one shot faster with shojin
I wonder if death stance hasn't been affected poorly
Axiom Arcanist already buff True Damage Ults by 14%, thiss is why is strong on Garen
True Damage is absolute crap from my point of view. It's simply the result of the fact that Riot doesn't manage to balance damage and resistances properly. The worst is True Damage like Vayne and Garan, which you can't even build against
how does this effect my ekko stocks. does he go harder or is he just the same
if you run ignite he goes harder.
@@YanYanicantbelievethistakenffs it doesnt affect ignite
fiora loving this
I don’t get why they need this true damage already is viable the issue is hp pools are too high so anything that doesn’t deal true damage doesn’t do well into metas like this…. Like why is true damage buffed and not things without it
as if true damage wasn't already a shitty idea in itself
This will definitely break something in the game.
what about exhaust? does it decrease true dmg? hope so...
says in the post, no debuffs dont work for it. and that also doesnt make a lot of sense and would feel like shit for some champs more than others.
Axiom Arcanist Cho'Gath will be straight up nightmare
It already increased the damage you guys have been sleeping.
I got mislead by the thumbnail, my hopes all shattered and my day is ruined
Oh damn Ignite works too? I really think they're gonna add Ignite to the exception list later on
why riot is so horrified to just make tanks be TANKS, it's not like they got a huge playerbase, those guys are always the top demage of my matches evern tho they biuld full tank items, just make tanks tank, if amor pen is suck an issue just make itens that alow tanks to counterplay it, really can't understand what they are thinking
Nice. Now my Cho'gath ult can do even more damage because of Axiom Arcanist while still building full tank.
axiom already worked for ults. no change there. u can however go coup if u want extra 8%
I thought its all about that band, i was wrong.....
Absolute baited
Let's buff the most unhealthy type of dmg, instead of buffing composition, team building etc.
I think this game needs champion synergy just like Marvel Rivals, it makes the game more fresh and you always see different kind of champions.
I still disagree with true DAMAGE not being mitigated by DAMAGE REDUCTION
Mathematically correct SETT let's go
I wish the true damage dont crit and ignore shield.
So will we be able to increase velkoz passive damage?
with some stuff? sure. u were already able to with items. u can run coup the grace now tho.
@Cryoptic_ eeeeyyyy awesome thanks for the info.
GIVE REKSAI TURE DAMAGE BACK RIOT😭😭
Yes first they removed it from R years ago and last season they removed it fm E 😢
I'm sure this change won't have any negative effects on the game
Unaware
That will affect the true damage of Zoe's E ability? since it has true damage in it.
yes...? why wouldnt it. it affects all true dmg. thats the point.
Wait....so that Lol Dobby video of the garen main "supposedly" becoming even stronger because of Axiom Arcanist, wasn't actually real?
It was all Placebo?
Nah that's crazy.
no, cus it did work. it literally tracks the dmg in game aswell. the point is to make it consistent. it works some places, other places not and it doesnt make much sense. coup the grace, cut down, last stand.... these dont work on garen ult. so this would change for instance. and for other ppl with true dmg, like fiora darius cho vayne etc...
Sure buff true damage, but there is no proper way to mitigate true damage... Build more health they said to counter true damage, vayne laughs and shreds you in 0.5 seconds because of your max hp...
Didn't it already do this? Atleast some true damage could be buffed for example Smolder burn by shojin/liandry and Sett W damage was buffed by shojin aswell.
yes, which is why its being changed. it wasnt consistent. some runes worked some didnt, item dmg amp generally worked tho. but coup the grace wouldnt work for true dmg.
whattf was that at the end now im bricked
Cho'Gath eating good this patch (literally)
Ah yes, the consequences of their actions has led them to not know anything how to rebalance adc and tanks
can't wait to try it on my full crit garen
Ultimate rune is bugged and doesn’t work on Vayne ._.
Darius and Sett will terrorize toplane. Last stand will increase Darius R (if you add axiom arcanist and gathering storm...) And Sett W by a lot. Now whether its better top go PTA or CONQ IDK yet
shojin axiom arcanist fiora goes crazy
Will this work?
@@palnic3832 this already works, and has been working since axiom was out
the only difference for fiora is that PTA and coup de grace didnt work before on her vitals
people already took PTA for earlygame power in some matchups, but with this change it wouldnt nerf her lategame anymore and probably be her best rune in all matchups
how about reksai gets her fking true dmg back?
if they are changing it, they could at least bring it back...
These changes make sense for riots way of thinking.
Riot is always trying to make new champions stronger and old champions weaker, and thus establishing a more rigorous meta where new always wins vs old. It also makes the game less about skill and more abusing the meta.
These changes work very well in that regard, since true damage is more comon in modern champions than old champions, thus increasing the balance gap.
Riot is destroying the game, and their methods are cirurgical
You say that but don't most of the old champions have true damage, and newer ones don't have as much? Sett and Gwen are the only two that come to mind that aren't old.
@KOHoxton depends on your concept of old. Vel koz, Camile, new fiora, ksante, Bel Beth, smoulder, are all new for me.
Only yi olaf and vayne are truly old champions with true damage in my opinion
@@Strawberry_Soda. fiora, darius, chogath, Master Yi, Ahri, Garen.
@@Strawberry_Soda. bro, vel koz came out in like 2014. hes ult didnt have true dmg at first, but was added in like 2016... we are closing in on 9 years since that happened. thats not "new". camille also came out in 2016. "new" fiora was 2015... and yi got his true dmg in around 2013, which is very close to these other "old" chamoions u listed.
so idk what u rly intend to convey here.
@Cryoptic_ That's why it all depends on your concept of new.
If you started playing league yesterday, those are all old champs. If you started playing league since the open beta (like I did) those are all new champs.
Now, It's no secret to anyone that the amount of true damage in the game objectively escalated in modern league, just like mobility.
And I am only speaking of champions with a LOT of true damage, I'm not even talking about other new champs like yone.
And this is why, riot is cleverly buffing true damage, to increase the unbalance gap between old and new
Liandrys, Riftmaker, and Shojin pasives.- So, what changed?? -
coup , last stand, cut down, PTA... its a small change, but id say a welcome one.
Ap Chogath will go hard with this changes
New math correct sett just dropped
This only really affects pta as the other things like horizon worked with it
all the 3 runes on precision tree. yes pta too.
can’t wait for crit true dmg shadowflame ap vayne 🥶🥶
meow bye
So your telling me my AP vayne with PTA, shojin, riftmaker, nashor and liandry is finally viable!
This will buff the winrate of Smolder a bit more.
Wow if only rek'sai had some true damage in her kit it would really help her to get out of the hole riot put her in when they reworked the kit... Oops seems like I was about 10 months late
I instantly tapped cuz I thought it's about the music group
shojin darius already taking over korea. Shojin and arcanist is op af
Does that mean that sheen will buff camille q 2?
no theres no buff here, but sheen already works on camille q1 btw.
Lol I hope one day the girlfriend does the closing words and Remus does the meow
give me a single true damage champ thats not op already?? garen, vayne, gwen, fiora, velkoz, like wtf?
which ones of these are actually op and isnt just a list of champs that can do true dmg?
wait... so this means, my CHO ult never got axiom buff because it was true damage...?
...
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What? True damage ia already cancer vs tanks, building more HP doesn't usually help and they buff it? Man, Vayne top is already reportable, now I have to ban her 24/7
The ending always gets me, anyway I don't like this change cause I don't play true dmg dealers
Here i am who thought true damage was always implified by percentage :D
and u my friend, is why its being changed. its not consistent at all atm lmao
So Shojin garen and such would be a greater thing now
Cool but, where are the free hexchest?
camille and fiora might start going PTA now
I thought it was the TRUE DAMAGE band noooo!
Axiom arcanist already buff Garen R even if its true damage
so i have to sacrifice a sum for the limited true damage items left to be viable, thx riot :D