Architecture: The Stuff That's Hard to Change - Dylan Beattie

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @steveyuhas9278
    @steveyuhas9278 2 роки тому +72

    I'm currently on a binge of all Dylan's NDC talks. Just came from "the web that never was". I love these talks so much.

    • @cjnewbs
      @cjnewbs Рік тому +1

      I’ve just binged about 5 now. Amazing speaker!

    • @chriskeller5226
      @chriskeller5226 Рік тому

      I think Im up to about 7 in the last 2 days. How does he do it? Every subject is great. @@cjnewbs

  • @chuckyb9469
    @chuckyb9469 4 роки тому +357

    Came here after watching " the art of code".

  • @striker865
    @striker865 5 років тому +82

    This was the most real and honest talk I've heard in a while. I understand the architecture perspective better now. Thank you.

    • @TheOceanLoader
      @TheOceanLoader 2 роки тому

      Dylan Beattie is one of my favourite talkers. He may be a bit too glib for some people, but that guy has definitely improved my consideration and solidified my comprehension of development.

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 2 роки тому +21

    4:30 "And it's only software and buildings that have architects. There aren't aeroplane architects or racing car architects or plumbing architects."
    Doesn't affect the larger point, but ships are designed by naval architects.

    • @kaiserruhsam
      @kaiserruhsam Рік тому +6

      ships are just buildings that are intended to float

    • @IanBLacy
      @IanBLacy Рік тому +2

      @@kaiserruhsamnot just buildings, whole-ass cities

  • @reginaldwalker4407
    @reginaldwalker4407 5 років тому +26

    Excellent talk, you had me smiling and nodding along. If I could I'd buy you drink. I especially found the prohibition against architects writing product code useful. There is a great temptation when you 'see' something new that has to be built and you are too impatient to change the formal design.

  • @mellertid
    @mellertid 11 місяців тому +2

    "Allow it to emerge". That applies to many areas, I think.
    When (not) to intervene may be more important than how.

  • @NevadaWilliford
    @NevadaWilliford 2 роки тому +10

    Great talk. These are the kinds of talks that have legs. I can see myself watching this again next year while having coffee on a Sunday morning.
    It's close to 3 years later and it's interesting considering some of these points after coming through the pandemic. The ideas about teams organizing around tech stack or geography for example.
    Overall I appreciate the down to earth manner in which it was presented. Often architecture talks tend toward big words and abstractions to allow architects feel important and superior to "normal" developers and business people.

  • @BlockMag-g5l
    @BlockMag-g5l 7 місяців тому +1

    Where can i find the talk mentioned at 20:31

  • @cat-.-
    @cat-.- 2 роки тому +6

    Effective immediately you've been promoted to the role of the device driver. You're now responsible for driving the devices!
    -- Boss

  • @hemantsharma5893
    @hemantsharma5893 2 роки тому +2

    you nailed it. Its to the point but in detail as well. Lots of problem covered about architecture roles and responsibility. I liked the example you provided on reminding the value that developers are delivering.

  • @VinayUdekar
    @VinayUdekar 3 місяці тому +1

    Loved this

  • @codyheiner3636
    @codyheiner3636 2 роки тому +1

    What is "Moss ed" (?) referenced around 21:03?

    • @yondaime500
      @yondaime500 2 роки тому

      Mossad.

    • @mrmimeisfunny
      @mrmimeisfunny 4 місяці тому

      The Israeli Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations. Mossad is just Hebrew for "The Institute".

  • @coder8515
    @coder8515 3 роки тому +9

    Great content, great speaker. Love your references and quotes. Funny use of south park characters. Last year I've partially designed and developed a cloud deployment tool (for my org internal use). It's different from an enterprise application but principles exposed here can be applied the same.

  • @iwanjones4705
    @iwanjones4705 2 роки тому +1

    A story told with joy and passion. Loved it

  • @danielscott4514
    @danielscott4514 3 роки тому +7

    There is another kind of architect out there: the naval architect (not to be confused with a navel architect - that discipline is just pure fluff)

  • @NickRoman
    @NickRoman 2 роки тому

    26:48 😆 that drawing really cracked me up. I really like the word rectabular.

  • @MiMi-pb8sq
    @MiMi-pb8sq 2 роки тому +1

    Anyone know NDC meaning?. Thank you.

  • @dratir
    @dratir 2 роки тому +3

    "The guy who designed the Brookly Bridge did not build it by himself"
    [citation needed]

  • @gregf9160
    @gregf9160 4 роки тому +5

    Is F sharp still a thing? I thought they had killed it. Never actually met someone who ever used it or worked in any organisation where it was used, ever.

    • @baopham392
      @baopham392 4 роки тому

      I was interviewed by a company for an internship position in 2018 which requires me to code in F sharp. Luckily, I did not get it :). I believe that it is good to know many programming languages. But... why F sharp, when we have C/C++, Python, JS :D

    • @protowalker
      @protowalker 4 роки тому +3

      @@baopham392 because functional programming is a better choice in a lot of circumstances

    • @salvatoreshiggerino6810
      @salvatoreshiggerino6810 4 роки тому +2

      I asked a really pushy .NET recruiter to find me a job in F#. Never heard from him again.

    • @Qrzychu92
      @Qrzychu92 2 роки тому +1

      It is a thing! it even got new version and tooling in .NET 6

    • @yvrelna
      @yvrelna 2 роки тому +1

      F# is what you get if you're a corporate programmer that wants to develop in a functional programming language, but too chicken to actually develop in a real functional language like Haskell. Or you're just .NET shill.
      #roast

  • @eddyecko94
    @eddyecko94 5 років тому +8

    Great stuff. I enjoyed it even as a background noise.

  • @kapilpatel9379
    @kapilpatel9379 11 місяців тому

    Interesting talk :)

  • @catalinstan3423
    @catalinstan3423 2 роки тому

    really good stuff here! This guy is awersome

  • @billiardsforum8338
    @billiardsforum8338 3 роки тому +1

    Officer Barbrady as "Systems Architect" - HILARIOUS

  • @kps2642
    @kps2642 2 роки тому

    Really good talk!

  • @ayoubdkhissi
    @ayoubdkhissi 2 роки тому

    Great Talk!

  • @ronnieglendinning
    @ronnieglendinning 4 роки тому +1

    Naval Architect!

  • @shelivsbaxters
    @shelivsbaxters 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant !

  • @hhhsp951
    @hhhsp951 Рік тому +1

    there -- are -- Matrix architects..

  • @tOmzz4video
    @tOmzz4video 4 роки тому

    great talk

  • @Stopinvadingmyhardware
    @Stopinvadingmyhardware 2 роки тому

    Without touching the architecture

  • @H.D.83
    @H.D.83 Рік тому

    No racecar architects? Adrian Newey would like to have a word

    • @lukealadeen7836
      @lukealadeen7836 Рік тому +1

      He is an engineer, Aeronautics engineer or simply an aerodynamicist

  • @poodlelord
    @poodlelord 4 роки тому +4

    touch screens are still a disaster...

    • @realReyLopez
      @realReyLopez Рік тому

      Exactly. Either lagging, constantly in need of calibration or over-responsive. I hate them, especially in cars. I want my buttons back!

  • @gns2soma977
    @gns2soma977 3 роки тому

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  • @carlyoung2512
    @carlyoung2512 4 роки тому

    The ratty orange cytogenetically correct because coil inspiringly sip out a strong metal. well-to-do, horrible smell

  • @diligencehumility6971
    @diligencehumility6971 2 роки тому

    As soon as someone says they believe in the moon landings, I start to hear circus music in the background

  • @lextr3110
    @lextr3110 5 років тому +1

    ndc have gone down the drain..

    • @theorderoforange
      @theorderoforange 4 роки тому +5

      what makes you say that?

    • @nachiketh3650
      @nachiketh3650 4 роки тому +4

      Huh?

    • @gagaxueguzheng
      @gagaxueguzheng 3 роки тому +8

      I don't know about NDC in the past but I enjoyed this talk and "The Art of Code". I found them entertaining, although they didn't revolutionize my thinking and also didn't teach me many things I didn't already know. To me, the videos served their purpose to entertain me while I'm sitting here with a beer.