RTD: "We're trying to reach a younger group of people." RTD: "We're going to p*** off the older fans." Okay, so older fans have left, no one young knows who Sutekh is, and you've completely alienated anyone who would have cared... so where does that leave you? Galloping up Diarrhea Drive without a saddle is EXACTLY where that leaves you!
Older viewers regard Pyramids of Mars as a classic. Some, like me, saw it on broadcast at the time, others came to love it from the novelisation and later VHS releases. I'd hazard a guess that very few of that cohort wanted to see Sutekh return. Younger viewers are more likely to have wanted their own version. There are myriad problems but I'll just pick out two. Sutekh was a powerful member of an alien race called the Osirans (ho ho) who was pursued across the galaxy by his fellow aliens (including the named Horus) to end his destructive rampage, finally cornered on Earth during the ancient Egyptian period and imprisoned. In the process the Osirans had such an impact on human society that they became regarded as gods. But they weren't gods, merely very powerful and extremely long lived. The Doctor managed to hook up a component of the TARDIS to an Osiran transit device (shaped like a sarcophagus naturally) to age Sutekh to death in some kind of future. Davies is probably trying to be being clever - the Doctor's line when he's having a tantrum hitting an elevator is "I sent him forwards" - what he did to Sutekh but we're supposed to think he means what he did to the meaninglessly introduced soldier. My second problem is that of context. Sutekh has virtually no resonance at all unless specifically tied to the context of Egyptian mythology, which doesn't happen here. The final big bad could have been "insert fan favourite here". Oh so Triad suggests pyramids and a soldier gets turned to sand. Not enough - not so much as a hieroglyph in sight. And the puerile wordplay of "Sue Tech" is beneath contempt. Yes, most of us with a triple digit IQ had seen the possibility but didn't think Davies would be THAT stupid. Frankly I'm confident it's insulting to the intelligence of most children. If anybody cares, the resolution will probably involve the idea that somehow Sutekh "remained dormant in the buffer" of the TARDIS component and has been waiting for some other hand wavy blx to return. Mrs Flood will probably turn out to be the embodiment of the TARDIS component in question. The Doctor himself will be taken out of the equation and it'll somehow be up to one of the plucky young others (probably the tiresomely "special" Ruby) to sort things out with a few prompts from him. The result will be a sad cheapening of a damn good idea from a far better writer from a far better time in the show's history.
Pyramids is my all time favorite episode of the show ever. Sutekh is one of my favorite villains in the show ever. I'm slightly repulsed by the fact that he has been associated with the current queer fanfiction that the show has become. It sullies and taints something great.
@@lesigh1749 My distaste at the recent direction era is not specifically to do with the queer agenda. I object to the childish overemotional histrionic characterisation, the idea (dating from Tennant's time basically just reprising his blokey Casanova) that the Doctor is romantically interested at all and the second rate self-indulgent writing. And if anyone wants to jump on: Hartnell was keen on an Aztec but it didn't really mean anything at a time when the show didn't know what it was yet; Susan was written as his grand daughter to avoid awkwardness; the TV movie was a badly judged misfire; Ecclestone loved Rose only platonically for teaching him to live again after his life was shattered by war; he flirted with Jack the way most confident straight men behave with gay men, as a good natured expression of acceptance. I didn't have a problem with a female Doctor but Whittaker was badly (and lazily) miscast. Imo the same applies to Gatwa. Redgrave and Dhawan would have been good in the role - although I doubt either could have committed to a major lead.
@@Pooter-it4yg Hartnell's Doctor having a brief courtship with that Aztec woman was quite sweet and very tastefully handled, as i recall he didn't even realize she was expressing an interest in him at all to begin with, then found it charming rather than anything lewd. it was just two elderly people sharing some time together. nothing like the grotesque display of hip gyrations and lustful facial expressions exchanged in "Rogue". Hartnels Doctor never lost his dignity or the sense of him being an intelligent otherworldly scientist during the Aztecs, but Ncuttis "Doctor" degenerated into a childish teenager flirting like an idiot and behaving incredibly immaturely.
@@lesigh1749 Indeed. I can't help feeling that the world would be a better place if people weren't so obsessed with what goes on in each other's pants. Even back in my wild oats days there were other, more important things for me. There's a difference between being repressed and mature control of one's urges. Sexual or otherwise. It doesn't seem to have been mentioned that Gatwa's performance is actually an insulting stereotype to gay and black people - I've heard that view from friends. Very few people are flamboyant, predatory, "scene", obsessed with fashion and dance...
Jon makes the point that once again Davies writes fantasy and not sci-fi. Pyramids of Mars was the complete opposite, taking the old Egyptian gods and mummy stories and giving them a scientific explanation. The fact Davies is referring to Sutekh as a god in some pantheon (League of Supervillains) is just terrible!
You should watch Classic Doctor Who, it's so much better. The villain in this is actually from Classic Who serial Pyramids of Mars. If you ever only seen Post 2005 Who, you don't know Doctor Who.
And so they bring back one the Doctor’s biggest foes. One even he had a very hard time defeating. And one who actually Controlled him for a while. Yet somehow This Doctor who is constantly Running Away is going to Defeat him?
@@sussudioharvey9458 Doctor won't do a thing, there will be a female character that will ultimately defeat Sutekh. All you have to do is read the synopsis of the next episode to come to this conclusion.
@Unicorn-jr4wx Recommending that modern fans should watch a classic story isn't gatekeeping, especially when this episode brings a villain from that era back. You literally won't know who this character is if you haven't watched Classic Who. Pyramids of Mars is also widely considered to be one of the best episodes of DW.
The scene in The War Machines where a frail looking Hartnell not only stands his ground as everyone, including armed soldiers fall back, and even advances and stares defiantly at the menace approaching them couldn't be done at the moment. The fruity doctor hasn't got it in him.
@@TheZodiacz that’s scene is the quintessential characteristic of the doctor. I always saw that scene as the most fundamental character of the doctor, doesn’t matter if the personality or actor change but the doctor will always be brave! Even 13th had that on her, this one doesn’t and it upsets me. In the devils chord any other doctor would’ve said “Ruby, go to the tardis” and would’ve at least stayed to see what it was. This doctor needs a heroic moment ASAP!
Ok theres a lot to unpack with this episode. First of all, why would UNIT, a "gold-level" organisation bother putting any effort into finding Ruby's birth mother? I mean sure, it snows when she remembers her, and that strikes me as unusual activity, but it just seems like such a silly amount of effort to go to on their behalf for something so minute. Second, absolutely nothing has happened this season to set up Sutekh of all people. All we had to go on was snow and Susan twist, two things that have no obvious relation to Sutekh as a character. Basically you could have removed the whole Susan Twist content and have been in the same place. It in no way adds anything to the story other than to get the doctor in that auditorium. Which he didnt need to be, since Sutekh or Sutekh's minion or whatever was wrapped around the TARDIS the entire time anyway. The episode was a huge amount of nothing for the sake of nothing. You could have skipped to the reveal at the end and have missed absolutely nothing of concequence. Third, RTD and Ncuti have been on a press meltdown for months now talking about how this show is for new younger viewers, and that older viewers could get lost and have actively alienated them. It doesnt matter if you have letitimate greviences with the show as it is now in terms of writing or casting or any of that, because if you have a problem with any of it, you are officially a racist or a bigot or whatever hell buzzword they use. RTD has been vocal about this the entire time, every interview is him talking about his, and i quote, "Left-wing bubble" and how he has been trying to encorporate that into the show, whilst at the same time creating a season that is apparently a jumping on point for new fans. This is apparently the reason why the Daleks, Cybermen, Master or any of the classic show or the 2005-now show arent in it. So... he decides to waste an entire episode on revealing a classic villain as the big bad. A season catered to "new young fans" and his big brained idea was to use a big bad villain that hasnt been mentioned in the show for 48 years? Really, Russel? He actually wasted 1 of 8 episodes on a villain who will ONLY be recognised by the people in the fanbase he has actively targeted and told to go touch grass. Do you want us, or don't you? Pick a fucking lane. As an added, I like a doctor who is able to show emotion when necessary, but it takes away from those moments when Gatwa has cried in every single episode of the season so far, and its fair to say he will cry in the next one too. What the fuck is going on with this show??
RTD just does not know what he is doing or wants, as he was telling long time fans they won't like the new show, then he tells long time fans he has ditched them for 20/30 year old demograph, while he uses the show as a Queer as folk reboot, and now he brings back a villian from the Tom Baker era........what is it RTD wants?
You’re right, the ‘who is Ruby’s birth mother?’ stuff is so boring. I’m glad it’s not just me who can’t think of a deeper way to critique why it’s all left me so cold. It literally doesn’t deserve it. If it bored you then it failed as entertainment and drama, end of story. We had years of “ooooh! Who IS River Song really?” bs and the soapy answer was she’s the daughter of the two companions, but she looks like she could be THEIR mum so you never would have guessed. Was so lame.
8:19 No. the woman working for UNIT is named Harriet Arbinger (or Harbinger). The real anagram for Susan Triad Technology is Sutekh, a Doctor Who villain from a Fourth Doctor episode
I gave up last week. It was a great thing when RTD, a Welshman, brought Dr Who back in 2005. It started off good too and gradually got even better. Then it hit a bumpy road for a few series and we despaired it was finished. Then we heard RTD was coming back, he'll fix it! I am so disappointed how far he's twisted this, shock as to how he thought this was a good thing, singing gnomes, space babies with creepy CGI, a snot monster, a drag queen, musical theatre and a one-trick pony actor who can only act gay-camp-blackman. This isn't something he created that he can mess up for fun, this has been going 60+ years, it's a show with many custodians over the years. It's had it's up's and down's, usually due to funding, but to be sabotagèd by your own showrunner? To RTD I would say. "The Doctor's personality is not the same as yours, you have no right to twist a character to suit your narrative. If you need to write another LGBTQ tv series by all means go ahead, but you dont turn my childhood into your crusade. You've betrayed millions of fans. If all you have left to give is this then give up, you've had your say, walk away now".
The doctor was completely miscast. If they wanted a black doctor, there were so many other people they could have casted that would have been far, far better. Guess it was more important to pick a gay black actor….who doesn’t fit. At all. And change the character to fit the actor, which is horrible. Guess that matches the writing now.
They also wanted Sex education (whatever that is, never watched it) because they think kids will lap up Doctor Who if its just like some other show they watch.
I've watched this show since I was 5 I'm now 58..Doctor Who has a format that for almost 60 years has worked..and now for some bizarre reasoning R.T.D seems intent on changing that format in order to please what seems to be one certain corner of the viewing audience..and as far as audience goes there's fewer and fewer of them each week,never has the show had such dismal ratings or viewers and the show was canceled before for far more viewers,Disney ratings are also dismal..how ironic that the man who bought the show back in 2005 to become a global phenomenon is also responsible for its ultimate demise and cancelation.
As bad as putting a space gun in the middle of their helicopter pad so that a villain could capture it and shoot at anything in London? As bad as intercepting a ghostlty entity in a town centre when they know they can ask someone to move it into in big field in the middle of nowhere?
@leonais1 I think it’s the modern setting that makes it more of a problem for me here. In a 2024 show, I just want to take a military group seriously. UNIT tower is also a complete ripoff of STARK tower btw
Why on earth would this tough military organisation hire a 13 year old boy and a soft, girly 15 year old "girl" and put them in senior positions? It's a travesty.
I see what RTD is trying to do here, it’s called The Carrot and the Stick routine, basically he is trying to draw you in and then business as usual. But now things are changing on the horizon and there is nothing that the BBC and Walt Disney can do about it as the fans have spoken and warned them not to go down the pathway of abyss with these franchises and now they are all dead in the water, Headland has had her future projects canned by Disney and RTD will be getting no more funding from Disney after season 2, now whose dead in the water!
The first black Dr.Who should have been more like Black Panther,Killmanger, Shaft, Shaka Zulu, Superfly, MLK, Malcom X, Blade or Captain Cisco from Deep Space Nine 🤔
I'd like to see a debate about what good contemporary Black actor might have been cast as the Doctor. Gatwa is obviously unqualified and not even Sidney Poitier could have saved this terrible writing.
If they want a younger audience then allow parents to introduce their children to The Doctor. Except - I showed Trans Rose to my kids and they were horrified. And then I was too ashamed to show them camp Ncuti and gay kisses. Why would any parent want to show their kids that?
Why would anyone even remotely care about a gay kiss or a trans person on a screen, its not brainwashing you forcing you to be trans or gay and if you think watching that on a screen can have that effect you might have to do some deep soul searching as to why youre so close to that already
@@buntyhoven9163 yes, and look at the parallels (I won't say plagiarism, lol) with The Invasion. A tech CEO with some technology which is pivotal to an alien menace.
SHIELD did pre-date UNIT by about three years, but I highly doubt UNIT was copied from SHIELD, since very few middle-aged English people read American comic books in the 1960s.
I think you are so right about NG and his potryal of someone who is not the Doctor and this undermines the core of the show. Millie Gibson is a decent enough companion but she simply has nothing do do, so your titular leads are not pivotal in the resolution. Add to this RTD's narcisstic clever writing, the double anagram, the Tardis shifting 68 metres (73 yards) and the like and you feel someone who is thinking how good I am at these little fan puzzles while neglecting the bigger picture and so producing better episodes The episode was the best of the bad bunch so far but was only average, the big reveal ( I still wonder if cleverclogs is going to rin on triad ie three , and there being another bigger boss) but too easy to pick holes. For instance in 73 yards Ruby's stepmom ran away from her as did Kate LS, but here she is welcomed with no issue at all and there are more. I welcomed the almost lack of "wokey" stuff, but worried about the plot synopsis that only one "woman" can resolve this.....anyone think RTD will double down on this and present that person as Rose?
Yes, for the triad we have Sue, Mrs. Flood and...Ruby's mother. She could be Ruby herself from the future (I wouldn't put it past RTD), or Susan Foreman, or Maestro????
As a life long fan of Who with a preference for the classic series - esp the 60s and 70s stories - I am not even going to bother with this. Like Star Wokes; Dr Woke is dead!
Seasons been shite but really enjoyed this one apart from the politics bit. Blink and you mist it but l noticed right away and ended up shaking my head at this bit. The moment Susan twist started dancing on stage which was definitely a scit at the uk prime minister Teresa may
Jon, believe it or not U.N.I..T. was a good over from classic Dr Who - I recall the Jon 'Pertwee era, and possibly Patrick Troughton era. Something like a cross trademarked forces/government agency task force setup to deal with extra terrestrial incursions. More often than not 3-4 steps behind the Doctor and his/her companions.
@@michaelblackett8195 it was introduced in Troughton's episode "The Invasion" where the cybermen appeared in 60s London. it came back for Pertwee's first episode and he stayed with them for most of his run. Finally went out in Tom bakers second series and wasn't seen again until Sylvester McCoy's last season.
If you include EU materials, officially U.N.I.T. is a multi-national anti-terrorism group. Secretly, they guard Earth from interplanetary and super-scientific attack. When the Doctor is there, they provide the force to keep the bad guys at bay until he can think up a way to stop them permanently. When he's not there, they take them out on their own. They were replaced for part of RTD's initial tenure by Torchwood (RTD's own creation), reappeared off and on later in Ten's era and afterwards, then were written out during Chibnall's tenure.
I'm someone who loves wordplay and anagrams, but even I understand that such things don't constitute the plot of a TV show. The Doctor pressing one button on his screwdriver and changing on-screen graphics intto custom animations of animated letters is beyond idiotic.
And stolen the Villain from Pyramids of Mars, and mixed him with some tech company front which is stolen from a Big Finish audio story where Sutekh returned on a far future Earth colony. The man is as big a hack fraud as Chibnall.
overall quite disappointed in the doctors character he is just a emotion wreck and need someone else to save the day constantly and when he gives orders the people die. smh, the worst doctor by far. and dont give me the "you are a racist" as its not he is just bad character and doesn't portray the doctor at all
I thought the pace of this story at the beginning was terrible compared to some Tennent and Smith stories. And just in case you were not aware, Sutekh was in the classic series, Pyramid of Mars.
Wait, they brought back Sutekh? Russell T Davis brought back the godlike-alien Sutekh and S. tried is some kind of avatar. Sounds like a hackneyed adaptation of a previous encounter during the classics with Sutekh.
I do have to point out that Sutekh is a character from the Tom Baker story Pyramids of Mars. It's explained he's from an ancient race called the Osirons, who visited Earth in ancient times. Having said that I hope they don't mess up an other old villain like they did the Toymaker. I prefer the old style U.N.I.T when it was a primarily military organisation made mostly of professional men and women in uniform with the Doctor and assistant being the only none military people involved. Now it's like if her mums involved then so can I be. Also what's with the huge tower (aside form trying to be the Avengers) U.N.I.T used to try and keep a lower profile. Maybe Kate should have taken a note from her dad on that one.
I remember watching that episode at Christmas with family and when he started singing and dancing all my family looked at each other in comical shock. I think we decided that Christmas pud was more desirable and turned off.
There was a time when I would've embraced the return of the most fearsome villain of all time in Dr Who - Sutekh but now...couldn't be bothered...this is NOT real WHO!
Nah, this ain't it. They destroyed what Dr.Who was and turned it into some DEI GAY trash show! They want people to love this show but they don't want none of it, period!
Bringing back former companions is looking like an act of desperation to attract fans. They are simply there as human sonics. It's almost as though the showrunner knows that what went before is crap (before it is even broadcast) and this is the only trick left to boost viewing numbers. It should only be used for important anniversaries, not as a regular feature for each series.
Aside from the absurdity of this government intelligence unit being run by women, children, transsexuals and minorities-yeah, the episode probably isn't too "annoying" compared to the rest of the series, but it is a total mess and a failure to tell a STORY. RTD just threw dozens of characters into this, giving none of them a chance to have any real focus or character. A good story is about two characters, maybe three. Here we have, literally, about 18. All the sci-fi in the episode is nonsensical gibberish - how the holodeck works, we have no idea. It's all nonsense. Villages didn't have CCTV cameras in 2004. Why are they treating the footage like it's a one-time event that can't be re-played? It's all nonsense. Yes, the episode had ONE nice moment in the middle when they were in the holodeck. Probably the only scene in this entire SERIES I enjoyed. It was nice, very intriguing, and the episode actually slowed down for a moment and took a breather. But then we got swiftly back into the giddy nonsense. Cliched tropes that seem to have been written by a child, with possessions, spooky voices and CGI smoke monsters. Yawn. The ending is absurdly drawn out. I felt like I was waiting about 3 hours for the monster to emerge at the end. It just kept cutting and cutting between the two locations with nothing actually happening. None of the mysteries were resolved at the end of the answer. Just a pointless episode. And this Doctor has yet to DO anything. He's never saved anyone. He never knows what's going on. He never seems confident or in control, he just cries and throws tantrums like a teenager. Note I'm only reviewing this for fun. I do not consider this to be canon any more and I do hate this show with a loathing. Moffat ruined Who, but Chibnall and RTD have pounded this corpse into the ground.
The monster they revealed is bad too, its Sutekh! do you know who that is? 90% of the people watching it sure don't know or care, because its from a 1975 Episode of the show that only the audience that were told to go touch grass would remember. Its like RTD doesnt even know who he is making the show for anymore.
@@TheZodiacz No clue, the old version was badly done due to the budget but was modeled on the Egyptian god Set, Anteater snout, square topped upright ears. The new one looks like they went for an alien dog with pointed ears, i guess RTD knows nothing of Egyptology and couldn't be bothered to look it up.
@@lesigh1749 I figured Sutekh must have been a pre-established villain, and I don't mind it being "one for the hardcore fans", but you're absolutely right about the muddled demographic. The reveal of Sutekh's name was clearly intended to be exciting and familiar to the audience - yet it's an audience of queer children who likely don't have a clue whom Tom Baker is.
@@lesigh1749 Sigh. Homophobic Google deleted my comment because I used the q word in a comment about a q show that's all about promoting and celebrating q-ness. FFS! Let me try writing it again… I figured Sutekh must have been a pre-established villain, and I don't mind it being "one for the hardcore fans", but you're absolutely right about the muddled demographic. The reveal of Sutekh's name was clearly intended to be exciting and familiar to the audience - yet it's an audience of q children who likely don't have a clue whom Tom Baker is.
I thought the last 10 mins or so was some of the best Nu Who era I've seen. To give RTD some credit he can go from soap opera vibe to chilling horror with comparative ease. He did go on full horror stakes in this episode. Scary stuff. And there was no sense RTD or the BBC compromised to suit a Disney family agenda. The final act of ep 7 was full on proper Doctor Who. No woke vibe at all.
And it looked good. The lighting, sets, all high budget vibe for tv. It looks lightyears better than the 2005 standard definition resolution 2005 series. We're fortunate to live in HD and UHD times. 😉
Never really been a big fan of Dr Who, but I feel for avid die-hard fans of the show. It's the kind of anguish I felt when modern day writers and producers destroyed the SW franchise.
On bad writing; I read a book recently that is a compelling story about a set of murders from the past coming back to haunt the protagonist. The story is solid, however when the lead investigator from twenty years ago is introduced, who is a woman, there was a big speech about equality, accompanied by a couple of male cops "mansplaining" protocol, and foolishly stumbling over themselves to show her incompetence. The whole scene is a political statement and had nothing to do with the plot. It could have been cut from the book. In fact, it undermined the female character because I would have assumed her to be fit for the job without the message. It broke my immersion as a reader. From that point forward, I was on guard for more political messaging, and couldn't sink back into the story as deeply. The way it was jammed into the story didn't fit at all, it wouldn't surprise me if it was some advised to insert the awkward statement by someone along the editing/publishing chain. Regardless, these forced messages are cancerous in story telling.
Real hate can come only from true love... This show was loved so much by so many that it's hard to let it go. And it's sad and painful to watch what it has become.
You really find it "puzzling" why many of us watch a show we now hate? There are many reasons… 1) Curiosity, like keeping informed of what an old friend is up to 2) It's interesting to see just how bad it can get 3) Shock/comedy value 4) Given that a show we love has now been destroyed, it's good to review the situation, to talk about it and affirm what's gone wrong, why it's failed. 5) Fans used to be united by our love of the show, now, at least we can be united by our hatred of the show and console one another with reviews 6) Early in the season it would be foolish to stop watching without trying to give it a chance and see where it led to. Later in the season, we feel like we've seen so mcuh we may as well stick around to the end. 7) Ever since RTD's return was announced we've been hoping the show will turn around and get good again. Every week we're clinging to the possibility that things might start to get good again, though we're constantly disappointed. I love Moffat and personally I thought Boom was a good episode, the only episode this season which actually felt like Doctor Who.
I rewatched Pyramids of Mars for the first time in 44 years. Sutekh wasn't a God; he was a powerful alien. His race, the Osirans, had trapped him before he wiped out life in the universe. Like in Stargate, Egyptian culture created a mythology based on the Osirans. RTD has taken a clever science fiction trope and is turning it into a magic pantheon because he is a lazy writer and thinks the audience is unsophisticated.
I noticed that the Doctor isn't acting right either. He threw himself on the floor and cried and a middle aged woman had to help get through it. The women talking like teenagers was offensive too. I am a middle aged woman and at work we don't talk about celebrities and say "Oh! I like love her!" and tell gay men how gorgeous they are and stuff like that. Women in their 30's are more likely to be like that.
I know Lenny Rush has had a tough life, and I'm glad he is getting work and enjoying success in his career. Truly. But his role was shoehorned as fuck.
As for "Rose", can you seriously imagine a government military agency employing a soft, girly 15 year old girl with a ribbon in her hair? And that's putting aside the bizarre fact she's played by a man in his 20s.
The pacing was all over the shop. Couple that with Rose them self saying they're only there because of who they know and the Doctor being one of the dumbest people in the room it wasn't the worst episode but it wasn't great.
THE ROBOT WAS GOOD - AND AT LEAST YOU GAVE GOOD PART TO THE KID FROM CHILD FROM CHILDREAN IN NEED BONNY WAS DOING WHAT VERY LITTLE, CLEAR POLITICAL SHOT - IN THE SHOW, WITH A TAKE OF TERESA MAY TAKING TO THE STAG CAN THEY STOP CRYING - OR DO THEY KNOW THE SHOW IS RUBBISH
Ruby is Susan and used the thing to make her human and forget she’s a time lord like the doctor done in series 3 with the fob watch. The person who dropped ruby/susan off on Xmas eve is Susan but the original Susan so ostensibly she’s dropping herself off 🤷🏻♂️🙈😂 or something around the lines. Ruby’s mother will be the doctors daughter jenny who is now the kind woman regenerated from original jenny 🤷🏻♂️ either that or original Jenny will return. Just a guess and then what if ruby dies and then regenerates into new companion varada the actress from boom. And similar to capaldi choosing the face of guy from fires if pompeii as a reminder who he is.
The David Tennant story that you are referencing has the worst CGI monster in the history of Doctor Who. LOL I am not disparaging your opinion but just making an observation. The Lazarus Experiment would have been so much better had the CGI been up to snuff.
The charm of the show was always its stories, and the special effects were always bad but people didn't care because the story was entertaining. Back in Ark in Space they used bubble wrap painted green for a monster, but the episode was telling a good tale so nobody cared.
Sutekh got aged to death by the Fourth Doctor. He is DEAD. DEAD. Also can we get over the anagrams? They are lame. Sutekh is making anagrams in English? Really? Also if we are going to play anagrams where you can remove letters, can anyone make an anagram from the word Ncuti? Don't look at me like that, Davies started it. This episode was rubbish.
I would classify Dr Who more as science fantasy than hard science fiction. Usually any 'scientific' explanation it gives is little more than gobbledegook! Sutekh is an old villain from the 70's Tom Baker story Pyramids of Mars. He was the last of the Osirians, a race of godlike aliens who inspired Egyptian mythology. This was a typically Dr Who take on the claims of Eric von Damiken and other writers that ancient mythologies (and even events in the Bible) were inspired by extraterrestrials. That being said i still have no interest in watching current Dr Who. Sutekh strikes me as an odd choice if you want to bring back an old enemy.
When you go back and watch older Doctor Who, you all too easily see the differences that make for better stories and characters that you can become invested in. Disney can make Doctor Who shinier with better production values, but this season has basically just polished a turd, it's all shiny and beautiful and superficial, but at its core, it's a turd...
So the big Tech billionaires just take your money, the kind of billionaires that produce the technology that’s used to make this fifth rate TV show. RTD didn’t think that one through, obviously.
S.H.I.E.L.D. first appeared in comics in 1965. UNIT first appeared in 1968. Neither copied the other but UNIT in Disney Who is a bargain basement Avengers.
@@TheZodiacz S.H.I.E.L.D. was pretty much the comic book version of U.N.C.L.E., while U.N.I.T. was inspired by Quatermass and all the monster movies with the army fighting the aliens while the scientists develop new weaponry.
Not to defend NuWho in the slightest....but your comment about them ripping-off Shield/Avengers for the new era Unit is a bit off: just watch the 2010 Tennant episode with the Sontarans and you'll see what really came first. Overall, though, yeah: this IS truly terrible horseshit; masquerading as Doctor Who.
Technically SHIELD came first, by three years (1965) but it's highly unlikely that UNIT was copied from SHIELD since British people in the 1960s didn't read American comics.
@@Scripture-Man Was actually referring to NuWho Unit; with that flying fortress thing seen in Torchwood and the Sontaran two-parter bearing a striking resemblance to what Marvel later offered us in that first Avengers movie. Fully aware the actual Shield comic predates the arrival of Unit in the classic series, naturally. I suppose it's a silly/moot point I was attempting to make, anyhow....everyone copies everyone, in one direction or the other!
RTD: "We're trying to reach a younger group of people."
RTD: "We're going to p*** off the older fans."
Okay, so older fans have left, no one young knows who Sutekh is, and you've completely alienated anyone who would have cared... so where does that leave you? Galloping up Diarrhea Drive without a saddle is EXACTLY where that leaves you!
Older viewers regard Pyramids of Mars as a classic. Some, like me, saw it on broadcast at the time, others came to love it from the novelisation and later VHS releases. I'd hazard a guess that very few of that cohort wanted to see Sutekh return. Younger viewers are more likely to have wanted their own version.
There are myriad problems but I'll just pick out two. Sutekh was a powerful member of an alien race called the Osirans (ho ho) who was pursued across the galaxy by his fellow aliens (including the named Horus) to end his destructive rampage, finally cornered on Earth during the ancient Egyptian period and imprisoned. In the process the Osirans had such an impact on human society that they became regarded as gods. But they weren't gods, merely very powerful and extremely long lived. The Doctor managed to hook up a component of the TARDIS to an Osiran transit device (shaped like a sarcophagus naturally) to age Sutekh to death in some kind of future. Davies is probably trying to be being clever - the Doctor's line when he's having a tantrum hitting an elevator is "I sent him forwards" - what he did to Sutekh but we're supposed to think he means what he did to the meaninglessly introduced soldier.
My second problem is that of context. Sutekh has virtually no resonance at all unless specifically tied to the context of Egyptian mythology, which doesn't happen here. The final big bad could have been "insert fan favourite here". Oh so Triad suggests pyramids and a soldier gets turned to sand. Not enough - not so much as a hieroglyph in sight. And the puerile wordplay of "Sue Tech" is beneath contempt. Yes, most of us with a triple digit IQ had seen the possibility but didn't think Davies would be THAT stupid. Frankly I'm confident it's insulting to the intelligence of most children.
If anybody cares, the resolution will probably involve the idea that somehow Sutekh "remained dormant in the buffer" of the TARDIS component and has been waiting for some other hand wavy blx to return. Mrs Flood will probably turn out to be the embodiment of the TARDIS component in question. The Doctor himself will be taken out of the equation and it'll somehow be up to one of the plucky young others (probably the tiresomely "special" Ruby) to sort things out with a few prompts from him. The result will be a sad cheapening of a damn good idea from a far better writer from a far better time in the show's history.
NuWho has consistently misused villains from the original series.
Pyramids is my all time favorite episode of the show ever. Sutekh is one of my favorite villains in the show ever. I'm slightly repulsed by the fact that he has been associated with the current queer fanfiction that the show has become. It sullies and taints something great.
@@lesigh1749 My distaste at the recent direction era is not specifically to do with the queer agenda. I object to the childish overemotional histrionic characterisation, the idea (dating from Tennant's time basically just reprising his blokey Casanova) that the Doctor is romantically interested at all and the second rate self-indulgent writing.
And if anyone wants to jump on: Hartnell was keen on an Aztec but it didn't really mean anything at a time when the show didn't know what it was yet; Susan was written as his grand daughter to avoid awkwardness; the TV movie was a badly judged misfire; Ecclestone loved Rose only platonically for teaching him to live again after his life was shattered by war; he flirted with Jack the way most confident straight men behave with gay men, as a good natured expression of acceptance.
I didn't have a problem with a female Doctor but Whittaker was badly (and lazily) miscast. Imo the same applies to Gatwa.
Redgrave and Dhawan would have been good in the role - although I doubt either could have committed to a major lead.
@@Pooter-it4yg Hartnell's Doctor having a brief courtship with that Aztec woman was quite sweet and very tastefully handled, as i recall he didn't even realize she was expressing an interest in him at all to begin with, then found it charming rather than anything lewd. it was just two elderly people sharing some time together. nothing like the grotesque display of hip gyrations and lustful facial expressions exchanged in "Rogue". Hartnels Doctor never lost his dignity or the sense of him being an intelligent otherworldly scientist during the Aztecs, but Ncuttis "Doctor" degenerated into a childish teenager flirting like an idiot and behaving incredibly immaturely.
@@lesigh1749 Indeed. I can't help feeling that the world would be a better place if people weren't so obsessed with what goes on in each other's pants. Even back in my wild oats days there were other, more important things for me. There's a difference between being repressed and mature control of one's urges. Sexual or otherwise.
It doesn't seem to have been mentioned that Gatwa's performance is actually an insulting stereotype to gay and black people - I've heard that view from friends. Very few people are flamboyant, predatory, "scene", obsessed with fashion and dance...
Happy 84th birthday on 6/16 to the original Doctor's granddaughter, Susan - Carol Ann Ford!
Utter bilge. If Gatwa's acting goes any further over the top he'll be meeting himself on the way down.
Stop calling Rose Noble she, they are male, a 15 year old male played by a 20something man in a dress. Nothing weird going on there...
working at a secret deep state organization alongside a 13 year old. "Benton, what are these children doing here? Have them removed...at once!"
Go watch Pyramids of Mars for an amazing story.
That’s one of the best. Also, check out Tomb of the Cybermen, if you haven’t already. Bruh.
I AM
Interestingly enough, I did on a whim earlier this week. I felt moved to re-watch it after not seeing it for a few years. Strange coincidence.
Jon makes the point that once again Davies writes fantasy and not sci-fi. Pyramids of Mars was the complete opposite, taking the old Egyptian gods and mummy stories and giving them a scientific explanation. The fact Davies is referring to Sutekh as a god in some pantheon (League of Supervillains) is just terrible!
You should watch Classic Doctor Who, it's so much better.
The villain in this is actually from Classic Who serial Pyramids of Mars.
If you ever only seen Post 2005 Who, you don't know Doctor Who.
And so they bring back one the Doctor’s biggest foes. One even he had a very hard time defeating. And one who actually Controlled him for a while. Yet somehow This Doctor who is constantly Running Away is going to Defeat him?
@@sussudioharvey9458 Doctor won't do a thing, there will be a female character that will ultimately defeat Sutekh.
All you have to do is read the synopsis of the next episode to come to this conclusion.
nice gatekeep dog
@Unicorn-jr4wx Recommending that modern fans should watch a classic story isn't gatekeeping, especially when this episode brings a villain from that era back. You literally won't know who this character is if you haven't watched Classic Who. Pyramids of Mars is also widely considered to be one of the best episodes of DW.
The Lazarus Experiment isn't one of Tennants best even, it's quite a poor episode for him in my opinion, and it's still better than Gatwa's best.
Yeah, but you get to see him slapped.
@@paulwatson9486 Ncuti's version would cry after the slap until someone would hug him and tell him how hot he is))) Sooo NOT the Doctor)
I like The Lazarus Experiment
I hated Lazarus Experiment. I hate CGI monsters.
@@Scripture-Man It's 2007, get over it
Review begins at 2:10
Building an entire channel around pretending to review doctor who so you can try to sell your books as /better/ is definitely a choice.
@jonzu4 You have a point.
@@ChesterSilverman365 Imagine taking a sci-fi series and warping it to sell the WEF agenda.
I hate videos with third-party sponsors, but I see nothing wrong with self-promotion, as long as it's brief and doesn't distract from the video.
I watched Lazarus experiment yesterday and I was shocked when I saw the doctor run towards the danger rather than away. New doctor is a coward
The scene in The War Machines where a frail looking Hartnell not only stands his ground as everyone, including armed soldiers fall back, and even advances and stares defiantly at the menace approaching them couldn't be done at the moment. The fruity doctor hasn't got it in him.
@@TheZodiacz that’s scene is the quintessential characteristic of the doctor. I always saw that scene as the most fundamental character of the doctor, doesn’t matter if the personality or actor change but the doctor will always be brave! Even 13th had that on her, this one doesn’t and it upsets me. In the devils chord any other doctor would’ve said “Ruby, go to the tardis” and would’ve at least stayed to see what it was. This doctor needs a heroic moment ASAP!
Ok theres a lot to unpack with this episode.
First of all, why would UNIT, a "gold-level" organisation bother putting any effort into finding Ruby's birth mother? I mean sure, it snows when she remembers her, and that strikes me as unusual activity, but it just seems like such a silly amount of effort to go to on their behalf for something so minute.
Second, absolutely nothing has happened this season to set up Sutekh of all people. All we had to go on was snow and Susan twist, two things that have no obvious relation to Sutekh as a character. Basically you could have removed the whole Susan Twist content and have been in the same place. It in no way adds anything to the story other than to get the doctor in that auditorium. Which he didnt need to be, since Sutekh or Sutekh's minion or whatever was wrapped around the TARDIS the entire time anyway. The episode was a huge amount of nothing for the sake of nothing. You could have skipped to the reveal at the end and have missed absolutely nothing of concequence.
Third, RTD and Ncuti have been on a press meltdown for months now talking about how this show is for new younger viewers, and that older viewers could get lost and have actively alienated them. It doesnt matter if you have letitimate greviences with the show as it is now in terms of writing or casting or any of that, because if you have a problem with any of it, you are officially a racist or a bigot or whatever hell buzzword they use. RTD has been vocal about this the entire time, every interview is him talking about his, and i quote, "Left-wing bubble" and how he has been trying to encorporate that into the show, whilst at the same time creating a season that is apparently a jumping on point for new fans. This is apparently the reason why the Daleks, Cybermen, Master or any of the classic show or the 2005-now show arent in it.
So... he decides to waste an entire episode on revealing a classic villain as the big bad. A season catered to "new young fans" and his big brained idea was to use a big bad villain that hasnt been mentioned in the show for 48 years? Really, Russel? He actually wasted 1 of 8 episodes on a villain who will ONLY be recognised by the people in the fanbase he has actively targeted and told to go touch grass.
Do you want us, or don't you? Pick a fucking lane.
As an added, I like a doctor who is able to show emotion when necessary, but it takes away from those moments when Gatwa has cried in every single episode of the season so far, and its fair to say he will cry in the next one too. What the fuck is going on with this show??
For real, lore either matters or it doesn't. Oh but everything is Canon now.
Awesome comment, great points. I have a whole other bunch of complaints about the episode to add to yours.
RTD just does not know what he is doing or wants, as he was telling long time fans they won't like the new show, then he tells long time fans he has ditched them for 20/30 year old demograph, while he uses the show as a Queer as folk reboot, and now he brings back a villian from the Tom Baker era........what is it RTD wants?
Maybe he wants to 'deconstruct' logic. Wokes excel at it.
To burn into our retinas the joyous gay and any extreme the LGTBQ fanatics can dream up. Fascist propaganda.
who cares?
@@mancyank564 You see the irony of taking time out of your day to type "who cares". lol
Very true, Bob. But at the moment I'm laid up at home recovering from an injury so I have LOADS of time.
You’re right, the ‘who is Ruby’s birth mother?’ stuff is so boring. I’m glad it’s not just me who can’t think of a deeper way to critique why it’s all left me so cold. It literally doesn’t deserve it. If it bored you then it failed as entertainment and drama, end of story.
We had years of “ooooh! Who IS River Song really?” bs and the soapy answer was she’s the daughter of the two companions, but she looks like she could be THEIR mum so you never would have guessed. Was so lame.
Who is the father why isnt that mentioned?
8:19 No. the woman working for UNIT is named Harriet Arbinger (or Harbinger). The real anagram for Susan Triad Technology is Sutekh, a Doctor Who villain from a Fourth Doctor episode
Ahh, brain fart. My bad.
and is that supposed to be Henry Arbinger from The Devil's Chord after a gender swap?
@TheZodiacz Henry Arbinger was the Harbinger for the Mistro. Harriet Arbinger is the Harbinger for (not 100% but pretty sure) Sutekh
I gave up last week.
It was a great thing when RTD, a Welshman, brought Dr Who back in 2005.
It started off good too and gradually got even better.
Then it hit a bumpy road for a few series and we despaired it was finished.
Then we heard RTD was coming back, he'll fix it!
I am so disappointed how far he's twisted this, shock as to how he thought this was a good thing, singing gnomes, space babies with creepy CGI, a snot monster, a drag queen, musical theatre and a one-trick pony actor who can only act gay-camp-blackman.
This isn't something he created that he can mess up for fun, this has been going 60+ years, it's a show with many custodians over the years. It's had it's up's and down's, usually due to funding, but to be sabotagèd by your own showrunner?
To RTD I would say.
"The Doctor's personality is not the same as yours, you have no right to twist a character to suit your narrative.
If you need to write another LGBTQ tv series by all means go ahead, but you dont turn my childhood into your crusade. You've betrayed millions of fans.
If all you have left to give is this then give up, you've had your say, walk away now".
He's definitely not The Doctor. The real Doctor would take immediate action. Not this impostor, he's standing there like a lump on a log 😲
@@explore8539 its a cliff hanger, the 10th doctor literally did the same exact thing in rise of the cybermen
Dr is weak as water. Things happen TO him but he never makes things happen much. Repellent Dr.
Was the best episode so far, but the bar isnt even a bar anymore...its in the dirt, rip dr who
Really it was only the last 5 minutes when anything interesting happened.
Yasmin Finney, as Rose Noble: "I'm only here for the representation!"
The doctor was completely miscast. If they wanted a black doctor, there were so many other people they could have casted that would have been far, far better. Guess it was more important to pick a gay black actor….who doesn’t fit. At all. And change the character to fit the actor, which is horrible. Guess that matches the writing now.
They also wanted Sex education (whatever that is, never watched it) because they think kids will lap up Doctor Who if its just like some other show they watch.
I've cast at least five Asian-British actresses to be the Doctor, they all did a better job than Jodie, Tennant 2 and Gatwa
I've watched this show since I was 5 I'm now 58..Doctor Who has a format that for almost 60 years has worked..and now for some bizarre reasoning R.T.D seems intent on changing that format in order to please what seems to be one certain corner of the viewing audience..and as far as audience goes there's fewer and fewer of them each week,never has the show had such dismal ratings or viewers and the show was canceled before for far more viewers,Disney ratings are also dismal..how ironic that the man who bought the show back in 2005 to become a global phenomenon is also responsible for its ultimate demise and cancelation.
Ncuti-Gatwa's Doctor seems as though he is permanently stuck on a sugar rush.
🤣🤣🤣
is that why he makes people feel sick?
Well, now that you mention it....😓🤑🤕
Everything about the way UNIT acts in this episode is ridiculous and makes it impossible to take it seriously
As bad as putting a space gun in the middle of their helicopter pad so that a villain could capture it and shoot at anything in London? As bad as intercepting a ghostlty entity in a town centre when they know they can ask someone to move it into in big field in the middle of nowhere?
@leonais1 I think it’s the modern setting that makes it more of a problem for me here. In a 2024 show, I just want to take a military group seriously.
UNIT tower is also a complete ripoff of STARK tower btw
Why on earth would this tough military organisation hire a 13 year old boy and a soft, girly 15 year old "girl" and put them in senior positions? It's a travesty.
Well yeah, those are all post Gatwa events. This whole season has been wrong@leonais1
I see what RTD is trying to do here, it’s called The Carrot and the Stick routine, basically he is trying to draw you in and then business as usual. But now things are changing on the horizon and there is nothing that the BBC and Walt Disney can do about it as the fans have spoken and warned them not to go down the pathway of abyss with these franchises and now they are all dead in the water, Headland has had her future projects canned by Disney and RTD will be getting no more funding from Disney after season 2, now whose dead in the water!
Typical supranational organisation, that UNIT, ploughing vast resources into the global crisis of identifying Ruby Sunday's biological mum.
The first black Dr.Who should have been more like Black Panther,Killmanger, Shaft, Shaka Zulu, Superfly, MLK, Malcom X, Blade or Captain Cisco from Deep Space Nine 🤔
I'd like to see a debate about what good contemporary Black actor might have been cast as the Doctor. Gatwa is obviously unqualified and not even Sidney Poitier could have saved this terrible writing.
Great list!
Personally I wanted Idris Elba to be the first black doctor, but Disney fucked that up! 🤬🤬🤬
If they want a younger audience then allow parents to introduce their children to The Doctor.
Except - I showed Trans Rose to my kids and they were horrified. And then I was too ashamed to show them camp Ncuti and gay kisses. Why would any parent want to show their kids that?
Maybe they haven't taught their kids that gay and trans people are bad.
If the parent had been brainwashed into believing that stuff should be normalized
@@LeviPennington-vv2kq It's 2022.
Better get used to it.
Why would anyone even remotely care about a gay kiss or a trans person on a screen, its not brainwashing you forcing you to be trans or gay and if you think watching that on a screen can have that effect you might have to do some deep soul searching as to why youre so close to that already
@@pandaphil its 1989 better get used to it. Bot
There was no story in this episode. It was just an info dump.
Who is Ruby's father?
u.n.i.t. has been around in doctor who since the third doctor in the 70s and brought in to new doctor who
Since the Second Doctor in 1968, as it happens.
With RTD, there are no NEW ideas... only BAD ideas.
60’s.
@@buntyhoven9163 yes, and look at the parallels (I won't say plagiarism, lol) with The Invasion. A tech CEO with some technology which is pivotal to an alien menace.
SHIELD did pre-date UNIT by about three years, but I highly doubt UNIT was copied from SHIELD, since very few middle-aged English people read American comic books in the 1960s.
I think you are so right about NG and his potryal of someone who is not the Doctor and this undermines the core of the show. Millie Gibson is a decent enough companion but she simply has nothing do do, so your titular leads are not pivotal in the resolution.
Add to this RTD's narcisstic clever writing, the double anagram, the Tardis shifting 68 metres (73 yards) and the like and you feel someone who is thinking how good I am at these little fan puzzles while neglecting the bigger picture and so producing better episodes
The episode was the best of the bad bunch so far but was only average, the big reveal ( I still wonder if cleverclogs is going to rin on triad ie three , and there being another bigger boss) but too easy to pick holes. For instance in 73 yards Ruby's stepmom ran away from her as did Kate LS, but here she is welcomed with no issue at all and there are more.
I welcomed the almost lack of "wokey" stuff, but worried about the plot synopsis that only one "woman" can resolve this.....anyone think RTD will double down on this and present that person as Rose?
Yes, for the triad we have Sue, Mrs. Flood and...Ruby's mother. She could be Ruby herself from the future (I wouldn't put it past RTD), or Susan Foreman, or Maestro????
Disney is now a death sentence for IP’s, bruh.
I agreed
RTD brings Disney's Gift of Death to the Dr. Who franchise.
They already addressed ID issues with day of the doctor and the living flesh. All this is now is just bad woke that doesn't fit in this series.
As a life long fan of Who with a preference for the classic series - esp the 60s and 70s stories - I am not even going to bother with this.
Like Star Wokes; Dr Woke is dead!
Seasons been shite but really enjoyed this one apart from the politics bit. Blink and you mist it but l noticed right away and ended up shaking my head at this bit. The moment Susan twist started dancing on stage which was definitely a scit at the uk prime minister Teresa may
Jon, believe it or not U.N.I..T. was a good over from classic Dr Who - I recall the Jon 'Pertwee era, and possibly Patrick Troughton era. Something like a cross trademarked forces/government agency task force setup to deal with extra terrestrial incursions. More often than not 3-4 steps behind the Doctor and his/her companions.
I say possibly Troughton because I was born during the 70s and never eat thru the Broughton era series.
@@michaelblackett8195 it was introduced in Troughton's episode "The Invasion" where the cybermen appeared in 60s London. it came back for Pertwee's first episode and he stayed with them for most of his run. Finally went out in Tom bakers second series and wasn't seen again until Sylvester McCoy's last season.
@@lesigh1749 and sort of got a cameo in The Five Doctors.
If you include EU materials, officially U.N.I.T. is a multi-national anti-terrorism group. Secretly, they guard Earth from interplanetary and super-scientific attack. When the Doctor is there, they provide the force to keep the bad guys at bay until he can think up a way to stop them permanently. When he's not there, they take them out on their own. They were replaced for part of RTD's initial tenure by Torchwood (RTD's own creation), reappeared off and on later in Ten's era and afterwards, then were written out during Chibnall's tenure.
@@TheZodiacz oh Colonel Crighton, yes. They had redecorated the office. Someone didn't like it.
The S-Triad anagram was... "clever" ??
Not: Adolescent?
Not: Puerile?
Not: Cheesy?
Not: Dumb?
I'm someone who loves wordplay and anagrams, but even I understand that such things don't constitute the plot of a TV show. The Doctor pressing one button on his screwdriver and changing on-screen graphics intto custom animations of animated letters is beyond idiotic.
Russel has combined Eutopia with the Satan Pit and made an episode not fit to lick the boots of either of those stories. Truly trail blazing.
And stolen the Villain from Pyramids of Mars, and mixed him with some tech company front which is stolen from a Big Finish audio story where Sutekh returned on a far future Earth colony. The man is as big a hack fraud as Chibnall.
overall quite disappointed in the doctors character he is just a emotion wreck and need someone else to save the day constantly and when he gives orders the people die. smh, the worst doctor by far. and dont give me the "you are a racist" as its not he is just bad character and doesn't portray the doctor at all
I thought the pace of this story at the beginning was terrible compared to some Tennent and Smith stories. And just in case you were not aware, Sutekh was in the classic series, Pyramid of Mars.
Wait, they brought back Sutekh?
Russell T Davis brought back the godlike-alien Sutekh and S. tried is some kind of avatar. Sounds like a hackneyed adaptation of a previous encounter during the classics with Sutekh.
Appeared during Colin-Baker's run as the Doctor as Sutekh the Destroyer. So parallel with Disney Star Wars, adapting and rethinking old mythos.
Pyramids of Mars is from Tom Baker's era, not Colin Bakers.
@@LloydEWatson1983 ty for correct, memory a lil fuzzy from drinking n last time I saw. Yet 70s n 80s the best.
And also a ripoff of the big Finish story "kill the Doctor" where Sutekh returns through the machinations of some tech company in the future.
@@lesigh1749 oh yes a rip-off definitely 🤣💀
Gatwa is the human incarnation of the sixth doctor's coat...it just says the wrong thing.
LOL great comment!
Sutek is actually an old villain from classic Who “The Pyramids of Mars”. doctor Who was never a hard sci-fi but an adventure show.
Sutekh was defeated by Tom Baker in The Pyramids of Mars.
And?
I do have to point out that Sutekh is a character from the Tom Baker story Pyramids of Mars. It's explained he's from an ancient race called the Osirons, who visited Earth in ancient times.
Having said that I hope they don't mess up an other old villain like they did the Toymaker.
I prefer the old style U.N.I.T when it was a primarily military organisation made mostly of professional men and women in uniform with the Doctor and assistant being the only none military people involved.
Now it's like if her mums involved then so can I be.
Also what's with the huge tower (aside form trying to be the Avengers) U.N.I.T used to try and keep a lower profile.
Maybe Kate should have taken a note from her dad on that one.
I gave up with singing goblins
Singing is usually the final straw in the destruction of any franchise. "The power of one... the power of TWO... The power of MANY!"
I remember watching that episode at Christmas with family and when he started singing and dancing all my family looked at each other in comical shock. I think we decided that Christmas pud was more desirable and turned off.
There was a time when I would've embraced the return of the most fearsome villain of all time in Dr Who - Sutekh but now...couldn't be bothered...this is NOT real WHO!
I’m sorry but I couldn’t understand a single thing that little guy was saying. 😂…and anagrams?🙄
Nah, this ain't it. They destroyed what Dr.Who was and turned it into some DEI GAY trash show! They want people to love this show but they don't want none of it, period!
Probably google the antagonist's name before making a video...this is an old school Tom Baker villian from Pyramid's of Mars.
Bringing back former companions is looking like an act of desperation to attract fans. They are simply there as human sonics. It's almost as though the showrunner knows that what went before is crap (before it is even broadcast) and this is the only trick left to boost viewing numbers. It should only be used for important anniversaries, not as a regular feature for each series.
Mrs Flood(Anita Dobson) is evil. I wonder if she will kill Rubys adopted grandmother? Please!
drown her in tea?
I feel an episode is missing. Could they have cut an episode to fit rogue?
My theory for future tv series what if ruby might be mother of Susan also could rose or river be mother of ruby?
This is why I refuse to pay for a TV license. As soon as I realised (about 7 years ago) I could legally get away from paying it, it was gone!
Aside from the absurdity of this government intelligence unit being run by women, children, transsexuals and minorities-yeah, the episode probably isn't too "annoying" compared to the rest of the series, but it is a total mess and a failure to tell a STORY.
RTD just threw dozens of characters into this, giving none of them a chance to have any real focus or character. A good story is about two characters, maybe three. Here we have, literally, about 18.
All the sci-fi in the episode is nonsensical gibberish - how the holodeck works, we have no idea. It's all nonsense. Villages didn't have CCTV cameras in 2004. Why are they treating the footage like it's a one-time event that can't be re-played? It's all nonsense.
Yes, the episode had ONE nice moment in the middle when they were in the holodeck. Probably the only scene in this entire SERIES I enjoyed. It was nice, very intriguing, and the episode actually slowed down for a moment and took a breather.
But then we got swiftly back into the giddy nonsense. Cliched tropes that seem to have been written by a child, with possessions, spooky voices and CGI smoke monsters. Yawn.
The ending is absurdly drawn out. I felt like I was waiting about 3 hours for the monster to emerge at the end. It just kept cutting and cutting between the two locations with nothing actually happening. None of the mysteries were resolved at the end of the answer. Just a pointless episode.
And this Doctor has yet to DO anything. He's never saved anyone. He never knows what's going on. He never seems confident or in control, he just cries and throws tantrums like a teenager.
Note I'm only reviewing this for fun. I do not consider this to be canon any more and I do hate this show with a loathing. Moffat ruined Who, but Chibnall and RTD have pounded this corpse into the ground.
The monster they revealed is bad too, its Sutekh! do you know who that is? 90% of the people watching it sure don't know or care, because its from a 1975 Episode of the show that only the audience that were told to go touch grass would remember.
Its like RTD doesnt even know who he is making the show for anymore.
@@lesigh1749 and why did they cast Pluto as Sutekh instead of his old form?
@@TheZodiacz No clue, the old version was badly done due to the budget but was modeled on the Egyptian god Set, Anteater snout, square topped upright ears. The new one looks like they went for an alien dog with pointed ears, i guess RTD knows nothing of Egyptology and couldn't be bothered to look it up.
@@lesigh1749 I figured Sutekh must have been a pre-established villain, and I don't mind it being "one for the hardcore fans", but you're absolutely right about the muddled demographic. The reveal of Sutekh's name was clearly intended to be exciting and familiar to the audience - yet it's an audience of queer children who likely don't have a clue whom Tom Baker is.
@@lesigh1749 Sigh. Homophobic Google deleted my comment because I used the q word in a comment about a q show that's all about promoting and celebrating q-ness. FFS!
Let me try writing it again…
I figured Sutekh must have been a pre-established villain, and I don't mind it being "one for the hardcore fans", but you're absolutely right about the muddled demographic. The reveal of Sutekh's name was clearly intended to be exciting and familiar to the audience - yet it's an audience of q children who likely don't have a clue whom Tom Baker is.
I hope Sutekh destroys the entire universe of this terrible fanfiction show. I am rooting for him.
I thought the last 10 mins or so was some of the best Nu Who era I've seen. To give RTD some credit he can go from soap opera vibe to chilling horror with comparative ease. He did go on full horror stakes in this episode. Scary stuff. And there was no sense RTD or the BBC compromised to suit a Disney family agenda. The final act of ep 7 was full on proper Doctor Who. No woke vibe at all.
And it looked good. The lighting, sets, all high budget vibe for tv. It looks lightyears better than the 2005 standard definition resolution 2005 series. We're fortunate to live in HD and UHD times. 😉
This episode worked for me even tho I'm not sold on Gatwa
Blue is a hard angle.
8:19 you are mistaken the harbinger was the "lesbian" black lady, you were talking about. It had nothing to do with Susan Triad.
The fact he thinks Harriet Arbinger was forced is crazy
Why does Bonnie Langford, aka Melanie Bush, look so sad?
Never really been a big fan of Dr Who, but I feel for avid die-hard fans of the show. It's the kind of anguish I felt when modern day writers and producers destroyed the SW franchise.
On bad writing; I read a book recently that is a compelling story about a set of murders from the past coming back to haunt the protagonist. The story is solid, however when the lead investigator from twenty years ago is introduced, who is a woman, there was a big speech about equality, accompanied by a couple of male cops "mansplaining" protocol, and foolishly stumbling over themselves to show her incompetence.
The whole scene is a political statement and had nothing to do with the plot. It could have been cut from the book. In fact, it undermined the female character because I would have assumed her to be fit for the job without the message. It broke my immersion as a reader.
From that point forward, I was on guard for more political messaging, and couldn't sink back into the story as deeply. The way it was jammed into the story didn't fit at all, it wouldn't surprise me if it was some advised to insert the awkward statement by someone along the editing/publishing chain. Regardless, these forced messages are cancerous in story telling.
Not copying marvel at all! Unit has always been a thing
yeah but it was a clandestine army unit with handpicked soldiers not a bunch of weirdo civvies in a tower wasting tax dollars.
@@TheZodiacz he took inspiration from avengers Tower I believe that doesn’t mean he’s ripping off The Avengers
Show has been dying since 1963 and will outlive us all, if it's ever cancelled it will just regenerate again like it did in 2005.
Jon, I'm puzzled. You clearly hate the show: why are you still watching it?
Real hate can come only from true love... This show was loved so much by so many that it's hard to let it go. And it's sad and painful to watch what it has become.
And, so we don't have to.
@@allenrhys844 So if you aren't watching the show, what are you getting out of visiting this UA-cam channel?
You really find it "puzzling" why many of us watch a show we now hate? There are many reasons…
1) Curiosity, like keeping informed of what an old friend is up to
2) It's interesting to see just how bad it can get
3) Shock/comedy value
4) Given that a show we love has now been destroyed, it's good to review the situation, to talk about it and affirm what's gone wrong, why it's failed.
5) Fans used to be united by our love of the show, now, at least we can be united by our hatred of the show and console one another with reviews
6) Early in the season it would be foolish to stop watching without trying to give it a chance and see where it led to. Later in the season, we feel like we've seen so mcuh we may as well stick around to the end.
7) Ever since RTD's return was announced we've been hoping the show will
turn around and get good again. Every week we're clinging to the possibility that things might start to get good again, though we're constantly disappointed. I love Moffat and personally I thought Boom was a good episode, the only episode this season which actually felt like Doctor Who.
I rewatched Pyramids of Mars for the first time in 44 years. Sutekh wasn't a God; he was a powerful alien. His race, the Osirans, had trapped him before he wiped out life in the universe. Like in Stargate, Egyptian culture created a mythology based on the Osirans.
RTD has taken a clever science fiction trope and is turning it into a magic pantheon because he is a lazy writer and thinks the audience is unsophisticated.
I noticed that the Doctor isn't acting right either. He threw himself on the floor and cried and a middle aged woman had to help get through it.
The women talking like teenagers was offensive too. I am a middle aged woman and at work we don't talk about celebrities and say "Oh! I like love her!" and tell gay men how gorgeous they are and stuff like that. Women in their 30's are more likely to be like that.
I know Lenny Rush has had a tough life, and I'm glad he is getting work and enjoying success in his career.
Truly.
But his role was shoehorned as fuck.
Doctor Who Needs A Hug.
Why is he so emotionally fragile?
All the hugging and crying doesn't convey a character who is meant to be a confident hero
The interactions at Unit were like an episode of Neighbours or something. Why are they all so friendly suddenly? Complete nonsense
As for "Rose", can you seriously imagine a government military agency employing a soft, girly 15 year old girl with a ribbon in her hair? And that's putting aside the bizarre fact she's played by a man in his 20s.
Is anyone still watching this?
no i'm not. and i lurve Dr Who
You
Nope
Yes, just to see how awful it is. Popcorn?
Suhdech was in The Original Doctor Who. He is Not a New Creation here.
UNIT was created in the show way back in 1968, so they were NOT copying SHIELD!
Back in 68 they were more dads army than shield and that’s not an insult, that was their charm.
Modern unit are just a rip off and soulless
Why would you re-watch Lazarus Experiment? What I remember from that episode was that Mark Gatiss would have made a better Dr than Casanova.
For funsies
@@JonDelArroz It's like a Little Britain sketch
Bringing back a 50yr old antagonist only really works if you haven't purposely driven away the classic who fans.
Sometimes it feels like The Ruby show, with her gay friend. P.S Remember when white non-gay men were often on Doctor Who episodes? Yea, neither do I.
The pacing was all over the shop. Couple that with Rose them self saying they're only there because of who they know and the Doctor being one of the dumbest people in the room it wasn't the worst episode but it wasn't great.
THE ROBOT WAS GOOD - AND AT LEAST YOU GAVE GOOD PART TO THE KID FROM CHILD FROM CHILDREAN IN NEED
BONNY WAS DOING WHAT VERY LITTLE,
CLEAR POLITICAL SHOT - IN THE SHOW, WITH A TAKE OF TERESA MAY TAKING TO THE STAG
CAN THEY STOP CRYING - OR DO THEY KNOW THE SHOW IS RUBBISH
Ruby is Susan and used the thing to make her human and forget she’s a time lord like the doctor done in series 3 with the fob watch. The person who dropped ruby/susan off on Xmas eve is Susan but the original Susan so ostensibly she’s dropping herself off 🤷🏻♂️🙈😂 or something around the lines. Ruby’s mother will be the doctors daughter jenny who is now the kind woman regenerated from original jenny 🤷🏻♂️ either that or original Jenny will return. Just a guess and then what if ruby dies and then regenerates into new companion varada the actress from boom. And similar to capaldi choosing the face of guy from fires if pompeii as a reminder who he is.
You think Lazarus is a contrast, try rewatching "Pyramids of Mars". My boy Tom snaps some goon's neck. :)
The David Tennant story that you are referencing has the worst CGI monster in the history of Doctor Who. LOL I am not disparaging your opinion but just making an observation. The Lazarus Experiment would have been so much better had the CGI been up to snuff.
The charm of the show was always its stories, and the special effects were always bad but people didn't care because the story was entertaining. Back in Ark in Space they used bubble wrap painted green for a monster, but the episode was telling a good tale so nobody cared.
Agreed. I only saw that episode once when it aired and to this day I've still never forgotten the sheer awfulness of the CGI. A bad videogame.
Typical woke attitude whose her mother . What about her father?
Sutekh got aged to death by the Fourth Doctor. He is DEAD.
DEAD.
Also can we get over the anagrams? They are lame. Sutekh is making anagrams in English? Really?
Also if we are going to play anagrams where you can remove letters, can anyone make an anagram from the word Ncuti? Don't look at me like that, Davies started it.
This episode was rubbish.
TIME WINDOW
I would classify Dr Who more as science fantasy than hard science fiction. Usually any 'scientific' explanation it gives is little more than gobbledegook!
Sutekh is an old villain from the 70's Tom Baker story Pyramids of Mars. He was the last of the Osirians, a race of godlike aliens who inspired Egyptian mythology. This was a typically Dr Who take on the claims of Eric von Damiken and other writers that ancient mythologies (and even events in the Bible) were inspired by extraterrestrials.
That being said i still have no interest in watching current Dr Who. Sutekh strikes me as an odd choice if you want to bring back an old enemy.
Make ruby Sunday the doctor who is she
When you go back and watch older Doctor Who, you all too easily see the differences that make for better stories and characters that you can become invested in. Disney can make Doctor Who shinier with better production values, but this season has basically just polished a turd, it's all shiny and beautiful and superficial, but at its core, it's a turd...
Anyone notice that trans gender rose spends half her time with her arm’s crossed
bro thinks THE LAZARUS EXPERIMENT is better than this episode. holy moly hahahahahhaha
So the big Tech billionaires just take your money, the kind of billionaires that produce the technology that’s used to make this fifth rate TV show. RTD didn’t think that one through, obviously.
A lazy dig at musk I guess.
Personally I liked the episode but yeah this felt empty throughout the season has nothing to set up to
Sounds like the Greatest show circus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least you can get to end of a program i never can !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr Who Cares?💀💩😒🙄
It's great getting anti capitalist messages from multiple billion dollar corporations. It seems so genuine.
UNIT has been around since the 1960’s. Who copied whom?
S.H.I.E.L.D. first appeared in comics in 1965. UNIT first appeared in 1968. Neither copied the other but UNIT in Disney Who is a bargain basement Avengers.
@@TheZodiacz S.H.I.E.L.D. was pretty much the comic book version of U.N.C.L.E., while U.N.I.T. was inspired by Quatermass and all the monster movies with the army fighting the aliens while the scientists develop new weaponry.
@@TheZodiacz stop calling it Disney who, they don’t even have the right to own
There was almost certainly no copying involved. No one in 1960s England read American comic books. It's rare even today.
Not to defend NuWho in the slightest....but your comment about them ripping-off Shield/Avengers for the new era Unit is a bit off: just watch the 2010 Tennant episode with the Sontarans and you'll see what really came first. Overall, though, yeah: this IS truly terrible horseshit; masquerading as Doctor Who.
Technically SHIELD came first, by three years (1965) but it's highly unlikely that UNIT was copied from SHIELD since British people in the 1960s didn't read American comics.
@@Scripture-Man Was actually referring to NuWho Unit; with that flying fortress thing seen in Torchwood and the Sontaran two-parter bearing a striking resemblance to what Marvel later offered us in that first Avengers movie. Fully aware the actual Shield comic predates the arrival of Unit in the classic series, naturally. I suppose it's a silly/moot point I was attempting to make, anyhow....everyone copies everyone, in one direction or the other!
Another American has never seen Doctor Who before how sad
SUTEKH IS DOCTOR WHO
HE WAS FIRST SEEN IN PYRAMIDS OF MARS IN 1975
WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING?
@@Br1cht what are you talking about
I'm not
i wrote in caps because i felt like it
it's a whim i have
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω OK IF YOU SAY SO!!!!!!
@@Br1cht he brings Sutekh's gift of capitalization to all humanity.
Harlot Binger!
if you look at this episode singularly, it wasn't the worse. however, looking at it as part of the whole season. it was trash.
guy doesn't even know who Sutekh is. embarrassing lmao