Wicked is a strange movie with the most extreme reaction to a minor poster edit I've seen. The movie story is already a horrific message, but I didn't expect the actors to to be trying to sink the movie before it even launched. While Ariana Grande at least seemed to have some media training, maybe the rest of the cast could do with some too. Learn where their money comes from and who is actually important in the movie industry, and it's the people who have the money. I thought there had to be some kind of motivation behind such an extreme reaction. But what do you think caused it? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
IDK about the movie or play but the book was amazing and the themes were all on point. It is literally about class struggle and what someone who is at the bottom can rise to do if they so choose.
'While Ariana Grande at least seemed to have some media training...' Funny you should mention that. She pulled out of a memorial concert for the victims of the Manchester incident. That was one year after the event where the media had reported that youngsters at her concert had been killed. Remember? They said it was a bomb? She pulled out at the last minute without any reason despite her 'media training. Oh! You didn't hear anything about that? Well, if you think THAT'S strange, the REALLY strange thing about the whole affair is that........oh...sorry. My phone is ringing and I like life :)
I think, deep down, she knows she's replacable; even more so in this era, just ask the dude Tig Nitaro replaced in that zombie movie. Or the actresses and Understudies for the stage shows, who have played Elphaba over the years. The role is not intrinsic to her, as say; Leonard Nimoy is to Spock. Every iteration of Spock is "just act like Nimoy" to some degree. She's not the only "Black singy-lady-who-can-act-too". Hell, she's not even the only blacktress who can wear green. Just look at Zoe Saldana.
If you have a tragic backstory and *that’s* why you are evil, you’re still evil. “Your Honor, I was bullied when I was young” Isn’t going to hold up in court
"We communicate with our eyes" ... And that's exactly why the eyes are obscured in the original. I swear, symbolism in art is pearls before swine when it comes to people like this.
The fact Ariana grande came out and said it was only an edit that’s what fans do.. while the witch has a meltdown shows the mentality between those two women.
Grande ain't no saint either. Who knows what she saw Dan get up to on those Nickelodeon shoots, cheating on all her SOs, etc. But she knows how to keep her trap shut at least.
I never liked her since she said she hated Americans/America and yet has earned a comfortable living thanks to the very people she despises. And then licking that donut at the shop. Come on! She was NOT a kid doing that, and even a kid would know better because I did! I NEVER would have touched food, let alone lick it! I was even very mindful going to buffets to not touch the food or doing anything "gross". Granted my parents, or at least my mom, was usually by my side and helped me, but even when I was old enough to get my own plate, I was always careful! She has always been disgusting and I REFUSE to support anything she's in. I didn't even recognize her as she legit looks like a 40 year old who had way too many face lifts that she's not starting to look like a cat. I find her so disgusting and wish she would lose everything. Same with all the monsters in Hollyweird.
Nope. You are lame. The original actress was Caucasian. Green isn’t blackface because the actress beneath the paint is black. You are really like that. I bet you are a real pleasure to know irl. Is milk racist because it white? Good god😂
I mean... it's not that much of a stretch. The song "Popular" is basically about being conventionally attractive from the perspective of someone with condescending compassion. It's not that out there of an idea. The problem is taking what was subtext and trying to make it text.
@@chrisperrien7055 It’s the same expression that one sees in traffic stops when they declare they have no license, no insurance, and it’s not their car, and they don’t understand why there a problem.
This reminds me of Karl Urban, who refused to remove the Judge helmet to show his face for the movie Dredd. That's a guy who respects the role more than his own image.
I don't think it's that he REFUSED to remove it, I think it's just that he respected the source material and DIDN'T remove it. It's not like anyone was asking or demanding that he remove it.
@@ColinFox from interviews, he said he read the script and was ready to refuse the role if the character removed the helmet. He has always been a fan of Judge Dredd comics.
@@marcogenovesi8570 that's what I heard as well 😂 what a legend. And did it hurt his performance? Not one bit. His chin was acting circles around these goofs. Karl knew that the movie is Dredd. People want Dredd. Look at the Stallone movie! 😂 Completely missed the point!
Margaret Hamilton received 3rd degree burns to her face and hands from poorly controlled special effects when she played the role in 1939. Cynthia Erivo had her face edited in photoshop by someone not even directly associated with the studio. Compare and contrast.
James was more mature, humble and kind to everyone, why would you expect him to be as immature as this actress? They clearly had a different education, resulting of him being a proper adult.
The eyes are supposedly the window to the soul. With that in mind, the vacant blank stare in the original movie poster unintentionally says some things.
yep. especially for the pre-made audience who saw the play, and liked the original poster. Hell most places like free press. fan art made, fan art hosted...lots of money saved.
Not a good marketing strategy for those looking to make a profit from a given project, but it's a GREAT marketing strategy for us viewers. It helps us quickly separate the wheat from the chaff. And that is getting easier all the time. Never in my 53 years of life have I seen a time when you could tell so much about a person with just a glance. They wanted 'identity' to be front and center. Now it is. They're beginning to reap what they have sown. I've seen mud puddles with more depth than 90% of the people in entertainment. They truly are no deeper than "what you see is what you get."
@@bluebunny000 Well, the film is about equality in a world where somebody was born different. 99% of the time they would've chosen somebody black. If anything, they're not racist, they just understand Hollywood.
@@bluebunny000 Nonetheless, it is true. Ever heard of the globalist agenda? The 45 declared goals of the communist takeover of America? Look it up because I can't post the link on this platform that wants to keep you ignorant
people die every day, 2 countries are fighting a war and the world might go into a world war 3, but this is the worst thing she ever seen! so sheltered.
Ehhh i think theres more than 2 countries As of June 2024, there are 56 conflicts, which is the highest number since World War II. 92 countries are involved in conflicts outside of their borders, which is also the highest number since the GPI's inception.
Andrew Garfield has the best take on what an actor does, he sees it as a service to society and gives himself openly to his work. Something all actors should aspire to, with care of course
Cynthia is the first person to graduate with a double major from the Amanda Stenberg School of Acting and the Rachel Zegler School of PR. And what an outstanding graduate she is!
Hollywood seems to think everything they do is Michelangelo's Last Supper, simply because they did it, and we must pay our admission and be awed and amazed. Erivo is the perfect example of this. Grande, on the other hand, understands that entertainers come and go like the wind and she knows you have to hustle to keep ahead of the competition. Grande is happy to have us pay any attention at all and pleased if we fork over admission too. Like the witch, Erivo will be gone with the next season. Erivo won't understand why she's forgotten and Grande will be hustling to sell songs on Itunes, and concert tickets and movie roles and marketing bling.
Poetic justice has already arrived. I tried to search for an image of the movie's original poster, but all I got was a sea of articles about this, along with some pics of the fan edit, lol.
@@paulanderson771They cast a black actress with obvious…um…characteristics that clearly show up underneath the makeup. So, of course it’s going to be about THE MESSAGE.
Fr. With Ariana Grande in the movie, the actress is basically a shadow to Ariana. Ariana will get more love and spotlight because she used to act for Disney and also because she’s a famous singer. The actress is just green with envy (pun intended).
It's all the stranger considering that her costar (Ariana Grande) had one of the largest terror attacks in British history on her concert, Manchester, 2017.
@@buzzsawkhan jeeeeez I hadn't even thought about that! I didn't realise who was in the poster with her! The brass neck on this woman to say that when Arianna is stood next to her......
That attack happened right after she put out some asinine tweet about how she didn’t like touring the US b cause something something racism. I’ll bet she wished she was in LA when all that mess went down.
The use of shots of the original Wizard of Oz film was quite appropriate. Margaret Hamilton went on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood to help teach children that scary people and monsters in movies were just people playing pretend, and after her appearance even kept in touch with members of cast and crew. Total class act. The contrast is quite stark.
She also tried to steer Judy Garland away from drugs. She was asked to go on The Muppets but didn't want to as Henson wanted her to appear as the witch. She eventually relented and appeared on the show. She spent many years trying to shed her witch image. People literally thought she was a horrible person in real life because of that character.
This actress would go on there and lecture everyone about oppression and make the kids leave feeling like they'd done something wrong just by being born with the wrong colour skin.
3:15 “I stare down the barrel of the camera lens…” Did she just really equate looking into a camera with someone pointing a gun? The overdramatized comparison ruins the credibility of her entire post. They are not the same. Not even close.
Removing her eyes and changing all that is deeeply hurtful for her, but it would be in the end way better for her career. She wont make a career with that level of acting. Unless..........
@@sesinhosantos5047 I heard a rumor that the actress demanded they keep her eyes int he poster. Which goes a ways to explain why she got mad.... she WANTED it like this.
@@marhawkman303And that's the shittiest kind of hubris. The poster is not about her, its a marketing campaign to sell the movie to general audiences so that the people who invested millions of dollars could get at least enough to break even. She already got paid and has now sabotaged the income of others by being a total douche.
@@marhawkman303 Imagine a nobody actress making decisions for the marketing department, which directly concern investors money. And imagine everyone having to comply. They deserve whatever failure they get
Actually…the musical doesn’t excuse Elphaba’s actions at all. Wicked is both a prequel and supplement story to the book and film. The things that happen in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz still happen. They just happen offscreen in Wicked. And that’s why the show works so well as a “actually, this is why the villain is this way” story. Elphaba still terrorizes the citizens of Oz and Dorothy. Glinda is still the witch who either helps or hurts Dorothy. The Wizard is still a humbug trying to hide the fact he’s completely powerless. The Scarecrow is still looking for a brain, the Tin Man his heart and the Cowardly Lion his courage. In fact, Elphaba gets chewed out twice in Act Two by Glinda for her behavior (once for stealing Fiyero away and the second time for kidnapping Dorothy).
Society "makes her wicked" by lying about her and skewing public opinion against her so everyone views her as the villain. I read the novel by Gregory MacGuire and kind of disliked it because I preferred the original novel by L. Frank Baum. But I enjoyed the musical for some reason.
i heard someone say this, I also bet money that the people making the movie originally wanted to make the poster more like the original playbill, but then Cynthia insisted that her face be shown and she got mad that the fan edited one looked better lmao
I thought that the fanmade poster was actually the original poster, but the actress didn't like it, so they changed the poster, it's really pathetic that such a poster is used for a multi-million dollar Hollywood movie.
She needs to cast herself as under threat and a victim. Nah, bitch, you made a stupid choice and now you're reaping the consequences. Have fun with that.
I bet my paycheck that she made the same confused face when she read the news about her entitled outrage after everything backfired. She really thought that everyone was going to be on her side.
@@floydfanboy2948 "The film’s iconic poster, on which a scantily clad Roberts is grabbing Gere by the necktie, was actually a clever work of Photoshop. Shelley Michelle, Roberts’s body double in the film, was the one striking a pose; Roberts’s head was later superimposed." However, I've seen the movie poster and images from the scenes where Michelle's body was used and I think it was less about "risque" and more about either Roberts or the Producers lack of confidence in Julia Robert's body. Julia Roberts has worn much less at the beach in papparazzi photos many times.
@@drummergirl2319 my guy, I’m referring to the fact that this character is gonna be nothing less than an absolutely unlikable monster. about as far from the character from the stage play that many of us, including myself have seen. Because you know dam well they’re not gonna do her any justice in this lol.
The problem is they get paid before the movie is released; they go out and trash the film on the press tour; they attack the fans - if you don't like it don't watch it.. And then complain when no one goes to see the movie. They should get paid depending on how the movie performs. We'd see a whole different attitude if the movie losing money means they don't get paid. She should reassess - her "resting cow" face isn't her money maker - it's her singing voice.
Great point. But I think the problem sorts itself out, producers will avoid people who can handle media because it costs MULTIPLES of their salaries. When they can just go with their 2nd choice and there's always a second choice. She is not special and there are people who aren't actually this bad at promoting the project not attacking the baked in fans.
I blame the companies as well. By now, they should know to make actors sign NDAs costing them hundreds of millions if they open their mouths until the movie has run its cinematic course without explicit approval from sane employees.
From what I've heard, some actors do get payed based on the movies performance rather than a flat rate. If memory serves me correct, the two leads of Dumb and Dumber had the choice between a % of the profits or a flat paycheck, and one of them ended up getting significantly more than the other for it...
This actress is actually really talented. I've seen parts of some her Broadway performances and she's excellent. But behaviour like this can only hurt her. It reveals her as an entitled diva. I now don't want to watch this movie because I don't want to financially support this kind of person (although I already kinda felt like that after Ariana had an affair with her married coworker on the film - he also happened to be a new father, so... nasty). This is how you tank a promising career, and possibly a film's profit margins, all at the same time.
The eyes are often described as the "windows to your soul", by hiding them you're adding a element of mystery to the character, with only the mouth visible, is she being kind, mischievous, evil, there are so many elements, but NOOO, "You MUST see my face, my ego demands it!"🙄 I wonder how much of it is also an element of, like her or not, Ariana Grande is a household name, who exactly is this other actress? "How DARE someone more famous than me get more exposure than me!"🤦♂
Nothing screams narcissist like thinking the hiding of your face as being the most offensive thing you've seen. The most offensive thing you've ever seen!?! What an insufferable creature.
yep, the emotionless dead fishface look isn't the best image for a poster, doesn't speak to much when the movie company can't do as good a job as a freaking TikToker.
From the first minute of your analysis, I can tell you haven't watched the play, but in a GOOD way. In the play, the idea isn't "are people born evil or is evil thrust upon them?" In fact, Alphaba (the protagonist, the witch) goes "If this is what evil is, then so be it." She embraces it. Literally in the pre-chorus of the most popular song of the play, she says "Something has changed within me/ I'm through with playing by the rules of someone else's game/ Too late for second-guessing." The concept of the play was never is someone born good or bad. The concept was what actually constitutes as good or bad, and how much of that is dictated by media and the people in power? Which just goes to show that the people directing the movie never understood the play, and goes to show that they also haven't presented it well to the audience by your own reaction. WICKED was never "nature vs nurture." It was "what is good and evil, and is there such thing as a necessary evil?"
@TheTimplatte I honestly didn't mind the way they did it in Maleficent bc that wasn't "is someone born good or bad," it was about a character who wants to get revenge by lashing out at someone innocent and how she comes to change her mind. I enjoyed the angle Maleficent took. It's unfortunate though, how EVERY live action villain movie after that tried to emulate what Maleficent achieved, and ended up reducing the nuance of good and evil to nature vs nurture, which has culminated into what Wicked looks like :')
Which is also why the hiding of both faces in the poster was key characterization. The point is to question who these people are. Choosing to "stare down the barrel of the camera" was just a bad character choice and a major sign she doesn't understand the character.
The whole point of the original illustration was to show Elphaba with a little mystery and a Mona Lisa smile, like she knows a secret we don't. It's designed to draw you in. The movie poster only serves to illustrate how dull and lifeless the eyes are and the total lack of any meaningful expression or ability to connect with the viewer. There is no mystery or secret. There is no draw. She erases herself.
It also happened to make casting easier as anyone could play/fit into the roles if say an understudy need to fill the role that night. Then the audience wouldn't go through complete shock when the person didn't match the person on the poster
The new poster looks like she's confused or embarrassed by what the other girl is whispering. "Psst, hey Elphie, you tore a hole in the back of your dress earlier. Everyone can see your undies."
i think her response tells us they were gonna cover up her eyes themselves but couldnt because she threw a tantrum behind the scenes aswell. and now some lowly peasant that can't be controlled like the film studio has done it anyway. some people just dont know their place
Okay. Well I officially will not be watching the movie now. Fans of the book understand that Elphie actually IS born evil. The circumstances of her conception, the brutality of her birth, how she treats her mother from the get go. There is something not alright about Elphaba, and we as readers understood this from chapter one of the book. Yes, she has redeeming qualities. But she is not a heroine! Also, haven't we had enough of the musical version of Wicked? The book is about politics and religion. It's not a happy go lucky story. It's deep and dark. Music makes the story cheap. Where tf is Gregory McGuire?!
The musical is superior in my opinion. But like, if this was an adaptation of the book, I wouldn't complain if they went in the direction you just described. But it's based on the Musical, so they have to do the musical justice. Thus, making Elphaba born evil wouldn't be great
The eyes are the window to the soul, hiding them means you can't tell if theres evil or happiness behind the smile, that was the point of the original poster.
Glinda: covers her mouth because she doesn’t speak out against The Wizard, we see her eyes because she serves as the narrator. Elphaba: covers her eyes because she is blinded by her ideals, we see her lips because she is the vocal driving point of the plot. Movie poster: let’s lose the metaphor by showing both actresses from lips to eyes.
@@JacksonCharvelRULEWhy would anyone go check out any new show with all the crap coming out of every production house? Now is a good time to find better ways to pass the time.
When you said ‘floating through life’, all I could think of was the missed opportunity to riff off the lyrics from on of the wicked songs ‘dancing through life’. 😂😂😂
I didn't even know that Ariana Grande was in this movie as she looks so different. She looks like a 40-year-old with an almost extreme cat-like face lift. Also, I prefer the fan edit poster. I saw that before I saw the original and thought it looked good until I saw her going viral for slamming it! I had that same thought; the fan edit was a lot better than the actual movie poster! The fan one seems mysterious and intriguing. The movie one, she looks lost or confused.
They chose an actress for Elpheba who had incredibly striking African American features, so they could bludgeon us with the allegory for racism. In the movie, talking animals are beginning to be shunned from society. Dollars to donuts: They WILL change dialog to push a cringe message.
@@John-fk2ky in the musical there are talking animal characters, and there's been segregation against them. One of which is Dr. Dillimond, who was in the trailer and is one of the supporting characters of the musical. Again, I am talking about the original musical the 2024 movie is based on, not the original Wizard of Oz book or the 1939 film
she talks as if it was her idea to show her eyes, like all the photographers, decision-makers, art directors, etc., simply bowed to her all-knowing choices. had the aforementioned 'professionals' been competent at their jobs, we'd have gotten the fan edit to begin with.
It's amazing how much insight has been gleaned from one tweet responding to one fan poster. It's all spot on to, kudoos to Disparu for making this, he explains it all admirably.
Joker: Society made a man terrible because they treated him badly and he got a raw deal. Embraces being the villain. People loved it but Hollywood said "No your not supposed to like him." Wicked: Society made a woman terrible, not because she was bad, but because society treated her wrong because- racism. Embraces being a villain. People "meh." Hollywood "Yas! Slay queen!"
@lovelovelovelovelove616 One is a story of someone being treated badly, not because racism, sexism or gay, but because people are apathetic, and one day they decide to punch back. The other is musical that piggybacked off someone elses book, and made it about "Skin color" and racism. And when she fights back its because everyone is actually the evil. Also the point I was making you missed was Hollywood loves it when its about oppressed minorities fighting back, but they don't like it when non minorities do it.
@lovelovelovelovelove616 The original book the broadways is "Loosely" based on (that I doubt you have read), the story follows that a Girl was born with green skin and looking scary. She eventually sets out in the world and then she meets glinda. They become friends eventually but Wicked decides to join an underground rebel terrorist group that wants to overthrow the wizard. She has an affair with a married guy and hides from her crimes. Eventually she even gives her daughter she had to the guys family before going into hiding again. Then most of the normal story happens but specifically, at the end, Dorthy says she is sorry and offers to give the silver slippers to her, but Wicked cannot forgive her and when she acidentally sets her skirt on fire with her lit broom, Dorthy, out of kindness puts it out by dumping water on her, accidentally killing her. The witch was not originally evil, but WAS by the end. The broadway bastardizes both the original book and the Wizard of Oz. Wicked never did no wrong, and everything she does goes bad. However the wizard now instead of just being a guy playing to system to keep in power, is actively evil now. He takes slaves and hides the truth while using Wicked as a scapegoat because she did not join him. She and Glinda are frenemies and Glinda means well but can never help. Dorthy and all the land want to kill the witch out of hate and glinda has a dark secret. Basicly everyone is the bad guy but the witch. In the new Movie version it has gotten even worst. The book was never about racism, the original play was not about racism. But in the movie it opens with a "Your green!" as everyone gawks at the black woman for a solid minute like its the 1840's. And the actor is making it all about racism for trying to make the poster closer to the original broadway poster. Your so wrong it is embarrassing.
@lovelovelovelovelove616I’m sorry, but if you stopped being obssessed over both, you’ll realize how ridiculous the activism behind both are. Expecting everyone to feel bad for a character, because "racism" is manipulative, Oz is taking place in a world full of fantasy, what’s the point of porting any "first-world problems" into it? Plenty of minorities didn’t asked to be "defended", the "defenders" popped out of nowhere, just let people having some good fantasy and enjoyment, if you want politics, contribute to it outside of fiction.
@lovelovelovelovelove616 Imagine focusing on that in a litteral piece of fiction.. Something that wasn’t created by yourself. Sounds desesperate to me.
Well Colombia is a European product. Do you know history? I have met a blonde, blue eyed, pale skin Latinia from there before. All kinds of folks live in the New World. Being Colombian isn't the problem.
Indeed, it's about the two-faced natue of her existence where her not being Cuban for West Side Story didn't matter but now it does despite it being a German Folk Tale because as Disparu says "It's about increasing my bank balance"
The sympathetic villain deconstruction trope was a fun novelty for a while but now it has certainly overstayed its welcome. I want movies to feature fun, deliciously irredeemable witches, vampires and supervillains again.
The thing that always got me is that in general in the present era when it comes to these things, it was almost exclusively an iconic female villain. Like there’s thanos, but he went from absolute evil to just kind of ideologically stupid, rather than than a tragic/sympathetic one. They did it with the most classically evil Disney villain that was maleficent, an attempt was made with cruella deville, and the wicked witch of the west having her evilness being set as misunderstood and the real bad guy being the wizard ever since the wicked books (of which the play is based).
for the record, I went to watch Wicked in Birmingham at the theatre and it was surprisingly amazing, the pacing was decent, the showmanship and quality was very evident when compared to other musicals I've watched, the jokes were quite funny and perfectly timed, the songs were quite catchy. Heck- I even bought the overpriced mug and pin that was at the merch stand. I was honestly thrilled to hear that they were making a live action film on the play. But now I'm starting to feel a little skeptical about the film now that I've heard about this. The main actor having a hissy fit over a theatre accurate film poster? This whole situation is honestly laughable.
That is why for that reason, I will not spend a dime to go watch this even if it IS good. It's time to put the agenda away, which is what this is hidden behind "racist" rhetoric
She claims she had control over the marketing poster. I doubt that very much. Sure there will be A listers who get a say in some marketing perhaps, but she is new to the industry, few people know who she is.
@@JoeOvercoat marketing has been the first to be infiltrated, they are still doing the things but adding THE MESSAGE now so it's entirely possible they let the diverse and brave woman actress decide important aspects of her representation on the poster. See for example the bud light debacle, who was the marketing team?
6:14 Comparing the unedited version of the poster to the og poster there are big differences in what it says. The movie poster looks like Elphaba just did/saw something horrible and Glinda is repeating into her ear again while the og poster looks like Glinda is telling Elphie a secret and Elphaba has a wicked idea of something she’s gonna do
Ever since the 1939 MGM musical, "The Wizard of Oz", fans have speculated what Oz was like before Dorothy fell in. It's obvious that there's a relationship among the witches that the movie barely hints at, like the fascinating conversation between Glenda and Wicked when they meet in Munchkinland. "Life In Oz" is a story that should have been told during the golden age of Hollywood when talented people could render storylines that entertained. But it's a different world now and that kind of talent may be a thing of the past.
One could try reading the books by L. Frank Baum…..they pretty much tell you all of that. They were written in the early 1900’s so you may haves missed them
But that’s exactly WHY stories like this weren’t made during the golden age Hollywood because at that time Hollywood told good stories and had plenty of talent to write movies…. Now in the dusty age of Hollywood as I call it they just keep blowing dust off of broken records and keep going back to old IPs and being creatively bankrupt means they don’t know how to do anything now except for prequels, sequels, origins, and spin offs
10:02 _"Someone that was relying on their TALENT to get the job, wouldn't be concerned about this picture. They bring other things to the table. They have acting ability . . . singing ability . . . they would be confident in and of themselves and would know that they could walk out of that job and into another one because they know that they can compete with other people"_
All have tragic backstories. The hero protects others from the pain they themselves have endured. The villain wants to inflict the same pain they have felt onto others.
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Exactly. It is why heroes are to be looked up to and for us to aspire to be like, where as villains are meant to be WARNINGS to not go down that dark path of inflicting your pain on others.
The actress's overreaction only confirms that Hollywood actors have lost sight of the fact that they're there to play OTHER people. They are using IP's for blatant self-promotion. She actually thinks this about only HER. True narcissism.
She talks as if people can no longer recognise her without her face staring at you directly. As if people could recognise her anyway, without the green paint
I had no idea who she was prior to this "controversy" (it isn't). Now, I'll be certain to avoid any future films she's in. Good job. You played yourself!
"I'm a big fan of Wicked on the stage. I think I'll do an homage to the original using artwork from the film I'm excited for..." ... One tirade from the horrible excuse for a human being unhappily cast in the leading role later...
The original book also has Elphaba's face half hidden. It has nothing to do with interchangeable stage actors. It's fundamental to the nature of the character
Same, that trend isn’t that great, Dreamworks did it best in The Last Wish. You’d think that Jack Horner would be good? No, he’s a villain who clearly enjoyed that role throught the movie. I legit need more villains like him, it’s what i can call an unique character.
modern actors not realizing that only like 10~15% of the audience cares what actors are in a movie and see it based on them, people go see movies to see either pretty flashing colors or the characters and the stories they love, not to see popular actors, a least not these days..... the time of famous actors having the ability to get people to see movies outside their interests has all but passed….
You are so right. There are zero box office draws anymore. If I like the plot, I just wait for it to go to video now. With today's rude audiences, and too high prices, I don't bother with the movies at all anymore. More often than not, I'll just skip it altogether. And of course, there's food prices nowadays. So there's that...
There are a lot of movies I think would have been better with an new actor who portrayed the character. Not a character being played by a famous person.
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is one movie I finally truly enjoyed. Same actors for the iconic roles they played. No social justice messages. No DEI or die nonsense. So much fun and I laughed most of the way through. Fist movie in 2 years I've been happy to see and glad I did. As for the ticket and snack bar prices.....ugh!!
She had an over-the-top reaction because she comes from a group of people who define themselves by feeling oppressed. The more oppressed, the more heroic.
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Wicked is a strange movie with the most extreme reaction to a minor poster edit I've seen. The movie story is already a horrific message, but I didn't expect the actors to to be trying to sink the movie before it even launched. While Ariana Grande at least seemed to have some media training, maybe the rest of the cast could do with some too. Learn where their money comes from and who is actually important in the movie industry, and it's the people who have the money. I thought there had to be some kind of motivation behind such an extreme reaction. But what do you think caused it? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
IDK about the movie or play but the book was amazing and the themes were all on point. It is literally about class struggle and what someone who is at the bottom can rise to do if they so choose.
have you ever even watched/read Wicked?
No matter what made her who she was. We all know what happens to the bi,,,witch in the end.
'While Ariana Grande at least seemed to have some media training...' Funny you should mention that. She pulled out of a memorial concert for the victims of the Manchester incident. That was one year after the event where the media had reported that youngsters at her concert had been killed. Remember? They said it was a bomb? She pulled out at the last minute without any reason despite her 'media training. Oh! You didn't hear anything about that? Well, if you think THAT'S strange, the REALLY strange thing about the whole affair is that........oh...sorry. My phone is ringing and I like life :)
I think, deep down, she knows she's replacable; even more so in this era, just ask the dude Tig Nitaro replaced in that zombie movie.
Or the actresses and Understudies for the stage shows, who have played Elphaba over the years.
The role is not intrinsic to her, as say; Leonard Nimoy is to Spock.
Every iteration of Spock is "just act like Nimoy" to some degree.
She's not the only "Black singy-lady-who-can-act-too". Hell, she's not even the only blacktress who can wear green.
Just look at Zoe Saldana.
If you have a tragic backstory and *that’s* why you are evil, you’re still evil. “Your Honor, I was bullied when I was young” Isn’t going to hold up in court
it does here in canada.
The real scary thing is that there's a portion of the population who actively believe that it should let you off the hook.
@@jbbj9720well in Canada you can go to prison for misgendering so let's not get excited about anything coming out of that country just yet.
@@jbbj9720 in the words of song by South Park "Canada isn't a real country anyway"
@@JacksonCharvelRULE canada will be little india by the end of the decade. its a wrap for my country.
"We communicate with our eyes"
... And that's exactly why the eyes are obscured in the original. I swear, symbolism in art is pearls before swine when it comes to people like this.
Any aspect of art
The "we communicate with our eyes" work
with talented comedian, not soulless actresses.
The fact Ariana grande came out and said it was only an edit that’s what fans do.. while the witch has a meltdown shows the mentality between those two women.
She's a Hollyweirdo either way haha
I had no intrest in seeing it to begin with. Even with ariana grande in it. Amd i still dont @reservoirdude92
Wicked Witch of the West and Glinda the Good indeed.
Grande ain't no saint either. Who knows what she saw Dan get up to on those Nickelodeon shoots, cheating on all her SOs, etc. But she knows how to keep her trap shut at least.
I never liked her since she said she hated Americans/America and yet has earned a comfortable living thanks to the very people she despises. And then licking that donut at the shop. Come on! She was NOT a kid doing that, and even a kid would know better because I did! I NEVER would have touched food, let alone lick it! I was even very mindful going to buffets to not touch the food or doing anything "gross". Granted my parents, or at least my mom, was usually by my side and helped me, but even when I was old enough to get my own plate, I was always careful! She has always been disgusting and I REFUSE to support anything she's in. I didn't even recognize her as she legit looks like a 40 year old who had way too many face lifts that she's not starting to look like a cat. I find her so disgusting and wish she would lose everything. Same with all the monsters in Hollyweird.
"Oh you're green" is an allegory for" oh you're black"
These people are lame.
@bigcod14 nah its more like "oh you're a bastard" because Elphie's mother cheated and drank green juice thats why shes green.
It's more like "You're green" Since it's an abnormal skin color. Black people already exist within the Wicked canon
Nope. You are lame. The original actress was Caucasian. Green isn’t blackface because the actress beneath the paint is black.
You are really like that. I bet you are a real pleasure to know irl. Is milk racist because it white? Good god😂
I mean... it's not that much of a stretch. The song "Popular" is basically about being conventionally attractive from the perspective of someone with condescending compassion. It's not that out there of an idea. The problem is taking what was subtext and trying to make it text.
@@bigcod14 I can't see my reply here anymore, so I'll say it again: it's more like "oh you're green" since green is an abnormal skin color
It's really weird how Hollywood is pretending that Rachel Zegler is somehow a "poor Colombian girl."
Thank you!
To quote Dr Evil: BOO-FRICKETY-HOO
Even if she was, so what? There's people in the world who are much worse off. 😂 Everyone has problems.
@@lillymsf5946 "i had the best grades in the class and i didnt get diddlysquat!"
@@TheChampionofEnki 😂😂😂
There's nothing behind those eyes. Not physically, not metaphorically.
@@chrisperrien7055 It’s the same expression that one sees in traffic stops when they declare they have no license, no insurance, and it’s not their car, and they don’t understand why there a problem.
it's the yaldabaoth stare
@@JoeOvercoat Sorry I deleted my comment you replied to.
But yea, I agree
the eyes say im need to urinate NOW"....
@@2st_duallist Snake
The green skin paired with green lips and black freckles makes this character look like an ogre out of shrek.
That’s it!! I was trying to put my finger on who she looks like. It’s Fiona! Only not as pretty.
Nailed it!!
🐸
Copycat.
Ive been saying since the first trailer was shown that she up here looking like Shrek.
This reminds me of Karl Urban, who refused to remove the Judge helmet to show his face for the movie Dredd. That's a guy who respects the role more than his own image.
Awesome movie btw. I highly recommend it.
I don't think it's that he REFUSED to remove it, I think it's just that he respected the source material and DIDN'T remove it. It's not like anyone was asking or demanding that he remove it.
@@ColinFox from interviews, he said he read the script and was ready to refuse the role if the character removed the helmet. He has always been a fan of Judge Dredd comics.
Great point. Highly underrated film. We need more like Urban and Caville, legit nerds like us!
@@marcogenovesi8570 that's what I heard as well 😂 what a legend. And did it hurt his performance? Not one bit.
His chin was acting circles around these goofs. Karl knew that the movie is Dredd. People want Dredd. Look at the Stallone movie! 😂 Completely missed the point!
Margaret Hamilton received 3rd degree burns to her face and hands from poorly controlled special effects when she played the role in 1939.
Cynthia Erivo had her face edited in photoshop by someone not even directly associated with the studio.
Compare and contrast.
One's an actor who works hard at what she does and the other just wants to stir the pot like a real witch
@@lillymsf5946 🤣
Imagine James Earl Jones (RIP you legend) throwing a fit because people couldn't see his face as Vader
He was literally never even in the costume...
James was more mature, humble and kind to everyone, why would you expect him to be as immature as this actress?
They clearly had a different education, resulting of him being a proper adult.
And also from different era’s of history and acted in also different era’s
James Earl Jones DIED??!?
@@fibanocci314 Sorry you found out here
The eyes are supposedly the window to the soul. With that in mind, the vacant blank stare in the original movie poster unintentionally says some things.
It's a vacant, run down apartment.
She looks constipated 😂
Ikr get that starved model lifestyle out of my movies.
@@ColinFox yep, definitely no one home
That the only thought going through her head is "Who farted"
"The Fans Suck", is not a good marketing strategy.
yep. especially for the pre-made audience who saw the play, and liked the original poster. Hell most places like free press. fan art made, fan art hosted...lots of money saved.
Its beek hollywoods strategy for ten years and look at them now
Hey, it worked very well for "Ghostbusters:Answer the Call".
.....Wait....
"Fans Suck" = NO FANS AT ALL lol
Not a good marketing strategy for those looking to make a profit from a given project, but it's a GREAT marketing strategy for us viewers. It helps us quickly separate the wheat from the chaff. And that is getting easier all the time.
Never in my 53 years of life have I seen a time when you could tell so much about a person with just a glance.
They wanted 'identity' to be front and center. Now it is. They're beginning to reap what they have sown.
I've seen mud puddles with more depth than 90% of the people in entertainment. They truly are no deeper than "what you see is what you get."
WICKED FAN: Hey, I’m super excited to see your show. I loved the original.
ACTOR: Well that’s just bigoted.
STAR WARS FANS: Welcome to the party, pal!
One IP and hell-bent Hollyweird worker at a time!
Lord of the Rings fans: Welcome, our deepest condolences
I think "first time?" would be more appropaite from the starwars fanbase
😅 tbh this want on my ruined IP bingo card...
Wheel of Time fan with his head in a noose: "First time?"
"This is the wildest, most offensive thing I've ever seen!"
She doesn't own a mirror?
apparently not.
She oughta check out my primary school at some point then she can tell me what's offensive
🤣
The actress was chosen because A) she’s black, and B) to use Part A to stir up controversy.
C) She love whining for no good reasons.
Saying an actress was chosen just because she’s black is racist. So please be respectful.
@@bluebunny000 Well, the film is about equality in a world where somebody was born different. 99% of the time they would've chosen somebody black. If anything, they're not racist, they just understand Hollywood.
@@bluebunny000 Nonetheless, it is true. Ever heard of the globalist agenda? The 45 declared goals of the communist takeover of America? Look it up because I can't post the link on this platform that wants to keep you ignorant
True
people die every day, 2 countries are fighting a war and the world might go into a world war 3, but this is the worst thing she ever seen! so sheltered.
Ehhh i think theres more than 2 countries
As of June 2024, there are 56 conflicts, which is the highest number since World War II. 92 countries are involved in conflicts outside of their borders, which is also the highest number since the GPI's inception.
Much more than two countries are at war.
And we are actually living in incredibly peaceful times compared to this time 100 years ago.
@@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoffIV the 1920s were pretty peaceful.
Cause she thinks everything is racist, when in reality they just wanted to make it akin to the original broadway poster. 🙄
Who knew Area Grenade would turn out to be the hero in all this dreck? Not I.
When a pop star has a more reasonable take on the situation then you do, that's when you know you should be seriously rethinking your life choices.
When Ariana Grande is the voice of reason, you ought to know you fucked up.
Than*
You forget she was an actress too on tv and broadway.😅 She's grew up in that industry so she's very well versed in that world.
Andrew Garfield has the best take on what an actor does, he sees it as a service to society and gives himself openly to his work. Something all actors should aspire to, with care of course
Cynthia is the first person to graduate with a double major from the Amanda Stenberg School of Acting and the Rachel Zegler School of PR. And what an outstanding graduate she is!
I heard she got a minor from the Bri Larson school of doing your own stunts
Lol I call it the Rachel Zegler School of Victimhood, but that works too!
I'd give her a doctorate for just effort 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 I can't
🤣🤣🤣💀
Hollywood seems to think everything they do is Michelangelo's Last Supper, simply because they did it, and we must pay our admission and be awed and amazed. Erivo is the perfect example of this. Grande, on the other hand, understands that entertainers come and go like the wind and she knows you have to hustle to keep ahead of the competition. Grande is happy to have us pay any attention at all and pleased if we fork over admission too. Like the witch, Erivo will be gone with the next season. Erivo won't understand why she's forgotten and Grande will be hustling to sell songs on Itunes, and concert tickets and movie roles and marketing bling.
That is a really good point. Saying that if she knew she got this job because of her talent and skills, a fan edited poster wouldn't matter to her.
The actress just showed how deeply insecure she is.
She's probably gonna get trolled 100x more.
Poetic justice has already arrived. I tried to search for an image of the movie's original poster, but all I got was a sea of articles about this, along with some pics of the fan edit, lol.
It tells you where her headspace was for the whole production. My guess is they've changed the entire play to be solely about "the Message"
The Streisand effect is alive and well.
@@paulanderson771They cast a black actress with obvious…um…characteristics that clearly show up underneath the makeup. So, of course it’s going to be about THE MESSAGE.
Fr. With Ariana Grande in the movie, the actress is basically a shadow to Ariana. Ariana will get more love and spotlight because she used to act for Disney and also because she’s a famous singer. The actress is just green with envy (pun intended).
So a picture is worse than the Cambodian killing fields. Good too know
😂
It's all the stranger considering that her costar (Ariana Grande) had one of the largest terror attacks in British history on her concert, Manchester, 2017.
@@buzzsawkhan jeeeeez I hadn't even thought about that! I didn't realise who was in the poster with her!
The brass neck on this woman to say that when Arianna is stood next to her......
That attack happened right after she put out some asinine tweet about how she didn’t like touring the US b cause something something racism.
I’ll bet she wished she was in LA when all that mess went down.
😂
The use of shots of the original Wizard of Oz film was quite appropriate. Margaret Hamilton went on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood to help teach children that scary people and monsters in movies were just people playing pretend, and after her appearance even kept in touch with members of cast and crew. Total class act.
The contrast is quite stark.
She also tried to steer Judy Garland away from drugs. She was asked to go on The Muppets but didn't want to as Henson wanted her to appear as the witch. She eventually relented and appeared on the show. She spent many years trying to shed her witch image. People literally thought she was a horrible person in real life because of that character.
This actress would go on there and lecture everyone about oppression and make the kids leave feeling like they'd done something wrong just by being born with the wrong colour skin.
This is indeed a bruh moment.
Emphatic upvote!
3:15 “I stare down the barrel of the camera lens…” Did she just really equate looking into a camera with someone pointing a gun? The overdramatized comparison ruins the credibility of her entire post. They are not the same. Not even close.
Imagine how painful and insufferable this human must be in real life
The fan art looked so much better than the special ed look of the original poster.
Oh the "D.E.I." edit is so funny it's like watching a car fire just starting..
Removing her eyes and changing all that is deeeply hurtful for her, but it would be in the end way better for her career. She wont make a career with that level of acting.
Unless..........
@@sesinhosantos5047 I heard a rumor that the actress demanded they keep her eyes int he poster. Which goes a ways to explain why she got mad.... she WANTED it like this.
@@marhawkman303And that's the shittiest kind of hubris. The poster is not about her, its a marketing campaign to sell the movie to general audiences so that the people who invested millions of dollars could get at least enough to break even. She already got paid and has now sabotaged the income of others by being a total douche.
@@marhawkman303 Imagine a nobody actress making decisions for the marketing department, which directly concern investors money. And imagine everyone having to comply.
They deserve whatever failure they get
Actually…the musical doesn’t excuse Elphaba’s actions at all.
Wicked is both a prequel and supplement story to the book and film. The things that happen in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz still happen. They just happen offscreen in Wicked.
And that’s why the show works so well as a “actually, this is why the villain is this way” story. Elphaba still terrorizes the citizens of Oz and Dorothy. Glinda is still the witch who either helps or hurts Dorothy. The Wizard is still a humbug trying to hide the fact he’s completely powerless. The Scarecrow is still looking for a brain, the Tin Man his heart and the Cowardly Lion his courage.
In fact, Elphaba gets chewed out twice in Act Two by Glinda for her behavior (once for stealing Fiyero away and the second time for kidnapping Dorothy).
Society "makes her wicked" by lying about her and skewing public opinion against her so everyone views her as the villain. I read the novel by Gregory MacGuire and kind of disliked it because I preferred the original novel by L. Frank Baum. But I enjoyed the musical for some reason.
Anyone who must say 'I am a real life human being' is no real life human being
"This carpet is alive and has feeling and value"- Rachel Zeigler.
"I love movies, I love making them" -- Rachel Zeigler
I think she's tired and needs to go to bed.
just say "i'm not a robot"...
"I am the king"
Covered in green makeup, green lipstick and green eyes, she’s not even there to erase, there’s just a character
Studios refusing the muzzle their actors, it's like Hollywood refuses to make money anymore
I think she's really mad because the fan edit looks so much better
i heard someone say this, I also bet money that the people making the movie originally wanted to make the poster more like the original playbill, but then Cynthia insisted that her face be shown and she got mad that the fan edited one looked better lmao
I thought that the fanmade poster was actually the original poster, but the actress didn't like it, so they changed the poster, it's really pathetic that such a poster is used for a multi-million dollar Hollywood movie.
🎯
"I looked down the barrel of the camera for you"
Gee relax
It's camera, not a gun
Yeah, Alec Baldwin isn't involved in this one.
She needs to cast herself as under threat and a victim. Nah, bitch, you made a stupid choice and now you're reaping the consequences. Have fun with that.
these people are so dramatic, is tiresome
@@morscoronam3779 boy Alec woke up with a desire to shoot some living flesh that day
@@morscoronam3779Not the same scenario, Nice try, though.
I’m so sick of these people and their defunct ideology.
not being racist but all of them aren't white either. might be wild to say but just cause they coarse unwanted drama.
Narcissism isn’t an ideology, calm down 😂
It's really dumb.
@@mommytsunami sure.
but they're making up ideologies with their narcissism ..
I feel the same about you.
I bet my paycheck that she made the same confused face when she read the news about her entitled outrage after everything backfired.
She really thought that everyone was going to be on her side.
TBH I'm outraged by the blatant greenface and the marginalisation of green people.
Fr. Shrek deserved better 😔
Hulk is disgusted by this movie.
My Martian friends got angry at me for watching this movie
Leprechauns unite in protest! ☘️
@@angelalewis3645 leprechauns only WEAR green, though.
I could never imagine Julia Roberts, complaining that they “erased her” from the Pretty Woman poster because they used a body double 😂
They used a body double? Ow no. My world just got destroyed! Thanks a lot 😡
@@floydfanboy2948 "The film’s iconic poster, on which a scantily clad Roberts is grabbing Gere by the necktie, was actually a clever work of Photoshop. Shelley Michelle, Roberts’s body double in the film, was the one striking a pose; Roberts’s head was later superimposed."
However, I've seen the movie poster and images from the scenes where Michelle's body was used and I think it was less about "risque" and more about either Roberts or the Producers lack of confidence in Julia Robert's body. Julia Roberts has worn much less at the beach in papparazzi photos many times.
I mean, plenty of movies posters are edited, but lady Shrek never realized that.
Wow, for the first time in a while, they actually hired the right actress to play the right role… A VILLAIN!
Color me impressed
That isn't right. White straight men are supposed to be evil
"color" HA, I see what you did there
So I take it you've never actually seen the musical?
@@drummergirl2319 my guy, I’m referring to the fact that this character is gonna be nothing less than an absolutely unlikable monster.
about as far from the character from the stage play that many of us, including myself have seen. Because you know dam well they’re not gonna do her any justice in this lol.
A shame that villain can't sing worth a damn. Shes a great screamer, but not singer.
The problem is they get paid before the movie is released; they go out and trash the film on the press tour; they attack the fans - if you don't like it don't watch it.. And then complain when no one goes to see the movie. They should get paid depending on how the movie performs. We'd see a whole different attitude if the movie losing money means they don't get paid.
She should reassess - her "resting cow" face isn't her money maker - it's her singing voice.
more upsetting is a lot of people who will see the movie are Ariana Grande fans and have no idea what 'wicked' is about
Great point. But I think the problem sorts itself out, producers will avoid people who can handle media because it costs MULTIPLES of their salaries. When they can just go with their 2nd choice and there's always a second choice. She is not special and there are people who aren't actually this bad at promoting the project not attacking the baked in fans.
To be fair, she usually sports a bull ring.
I blame the companies as well. By now, they should know to make actors sign NDAs costing them hundreds of millions if they open their mouths until the movie has run its cinematic course without explicit approval from sane employees.
From what I've heard, some actors do get payed based on the movies performance rather than a flat rate. If memory serves me correct, the two leads of Dumb and Dumber had the choice between a % of the profits or a flat paycheck, and one of them ended up getting significantly more than the other for it...
This actress is actually really talented. I've seen parts of some her Broadway performances and she's excellent. But behaviour like this can only hurt her. It reveals her as an entitled diva. I now don't want to watch this movie because I don't want to financially support this kind of person (although I already kinda felt like that after Ariana had an affair with her married coworker on the film - he also happened to be a new father, so... nasty). This is how you tank a promising career, and possibly a film's profit margins, all at the same time.
The eyes are often described as the "windows to your soul", by hiding them you're adding a element of mystery to the character, with only the mouth visible, is she being kind, mischievous, evil, there are so many elements, but NOOO, "You MUST see my face, my ego demands it!"🙄
I wonder how much of it is also an element of, like her or not, Ariana Grande is a household name, who exactly is this other actress? "How DARE someone more famous than me get more exposure than me!"🤦♂
Nothing screams narcissist like thinking the hiding of your face as being the most offensive thing you've seen. The most offensive thing you've ever seen!?! What an insufferable creature.
I advise her to go living in a European country where innocents got killed by a certain culture. The poster will be the least offensive thing she saw.
yep, the emotionless dead fishface look isn't the best image for a poster, doesn't speak to much when the movie company can't do as good a job as a freaking TikToker.
"...she had black, lifeless eyes, like a dolls eyes..."
We'll need a bigger pitchfork.
Imagine being so privileged that a fan made poster is the “most offensive” thing you have seen. 🥴
She should be proud, because the fan is talented.
It just makes me wonder what friggin highschool did she go to???
@ probably some hoity-toity arts high school where they coddled the kids.
@lillymsf5946
The one from Glee?
@@fibanocci314 😂 Probably!
From the first minute of your analysis, I can tell you haven't watched the play, but in a GOOD way. In the play, the idea isn't "are people born evil or is evil thrust upon them?" In fact, Alphaba (the protagonist, the witch) goes "If this is what evil is, then so be it." She embraces it. Literally in the pre-chorus of the most popular song of the play, she says "Something has changed within me/ I'm through with playing by the rules of someone else's game/ Too late for second-guessing." The concept of the play was never is someone born good or bad. The concept was what actually constitutes as good or bad, and how much of that is dictated by media and the people in power? Which just goes to show that the people directing the movie never understood the play, and goes to show that they also haven't presented it well to the audience by your own reaction. WICKED was never "nature vs nurture." It was "what is good and evil, and is there such thing as a necessary evil?"
I’m not surprised they took this route. This is the same thing that was done with Maleficent. She wasn’t really evil, she was just misunderstood. 🙄
I read the book
@TheTimplatte I honestly didn't mind the way they did it in Maleficent bc that wasn't "is someone born good or bad," it was about a character who wants to get revenge by lashing out at someone innocent and how she comes to change her mind. I enjoyed the angle Maleficent took. It's unfortunate though, how EVERY live action villain movie after that tried to emulate what Maleficent achieved, and ended up reducing the nuance of good and evil to nature vs nurture, which has culminated into what Wicked looks like :')
Yes, the play was fun and the plot worked so that the green witch appeared something that she wasn’t
Which is also why the hiding of both faces in the poster was key characterization. The point is to question who these people are. Choosing to "stare down the barrel of the camera" was just a bad character choice and a major sign she doesn't understand the character.
The whole point of the original illustration was to show Elphaba with a little mystery and a Mona Lisa smile, like she knows a secret we don't. It's designed to draw you in. The movie poster only serves to illustrate how dull and lifeless the eyes are and the total lack of any meaningful expression or ability to connect with the viewer. There is no mystery or secret. There is no draw. She erases herself.
It also happened to make casting easier as anyone could play/fit into the roles if say an understudy need to fill the role that night. Then the audience wouldn't go through complete shock when the person didn't match the person on the poster
"But they need to know I'm Black!"
But is it Area Grenade playing this Alfalfa? or is it the black one
sorry African-americans
The new poster looks like she's confused or embarrassed by what the other girl is whispering.
"Psst, hey Elphie, you tore a hole in the back of your dress earlier. Everyone can see your undies."
She thought her face being visible would show the world how stunning and brave she is.
Trying to make a point....and hey! We get it! She's a lifeless, soulless adult pretender.
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Shes just a narcissist who thinks the world should see as much of her as possible.
Oh it’s stunning and brave… stunning how terrible that poster is and brave for her to want people to see it
@@TrueBladeSoul Yep lol
i think her response tells us they were gonna cover up her eyes themselves but couldnt because she threw a tantrum behind the scenes aswell.
and now some lowly peasant that can't be controlled like the film studio has done it anyway. some people just dont know their place
I was thinking same thing 😅
I'm a Blackity Black Black woman, mixed with Black and mo Black and I find this "outrage" silly. Honestly, she's setting us back. By like a LOT.
Okay. Well I officially will not be watching the movie now. Fans of the book understand that Elphie actually IS born evil. The circumstances of her conception, the brutality of her birth, how she treats her mother from the get go. There is something not alright about Elphaba, and we as readers understood this from chapter one of the book. Yes, she has redeeming qualities. But she is not a heroine! Also, haven't we had enough of the musical version of Wicked? The book is about politics and religion. It's not a happy go lucky story. It's deep and dark. Music makes the story cheap. Where tf is Gregory McGuire?!
The musical is superior in my opinion. But like, if this was an adaptation of the book, I wouldn't complain if they went in the direction you just described. But it's based on the Musical, so they have to do the musical justice. Thus, making Elphaba born evil wouldn't be great
Yes thank you! In that regard she's more of an antiheroine that gradually becomes a villain.
They made her green in the movie, they already “hid” who she is.
well said. they did "degrade" her identity
The eyes are the window to the soul, hiding them means you can't tell if theres evil or happiness behind the smile, that was the point of the original poster.
If the eyes are the window to the soul, then that vacant blank stare from the original movie poster unintentionally says some “unfortunate” things.
@@forsociopoliticalstuff2629 it just confirms what we all know. Empty vessels it's what these people are
@@forsociopoliticalstuff2629The lights are on but nobody’s in 😂
Man shrek 5 looks sick I didn’t know animation could look so real
😂 Nice
lol
That is just an AI image. And the response generated by ChatGPT.
You would think she would be mad that they painted her green. Since her skin color is the only reason she got the job.
Glinda: covers her mouth because she doesn’t speak out against The Wizard, we see her eyes because she serves as the narrator.
Elphaba: covers her eyes because she is blinded by her ideals, we see her lips because she is the vocal driving point of the plot.
Movie poster: let’s lose the metaphor by showing both actresses from lips to eyes.
You just got to love “resting cow face” brilliant Disparu.
The unedited pic is pretty awful. Either the pic is hideous or the actress is hideous. The fan edit was a favor to both the actress and the public.
I hope she does a “diss track”……….
Gonna involve twerking and cringe lyrics
Lmao!! 😂😂😂 I'm here for it
I hope we get another Ryan remix.
That would be awesome
That would be wicked
Damn near all film and TV coming out of Hollywood recently has really been showcasing how evil they really are, eh?
best new show is FROM... check it out
Most people don't even recognize it. 🤷🤦
@@JacksonCharvelRULEYeah, that's been mostly good so far. Pretty sure they got a lot of influence from Silent Hill.
@@JacksonCharvelRULEWhy would anyone go check out any new show with all the crap coming out of every production house? Now is a good time to find better ways to pass the time.
Can you imagine if Ryan did this for the Deadpool mask? The mask erases him!
When you said ‘floating through life’, all I could think of was the missed opportunity to riff off the lyrics from on of the wicked songs ‘dancing through life’. 😂😂😂
I didn't even know that Ariana Grande was in this movie as she looks so different. She looks like a 40-year-old with an almost extreme cat-like face lift.
Also, I prefer the fan edit poster. I saw that before I saw the original and thought it looked good until I saw her going viral for slamming it! I had that same thought; the fan edit was a lot better than the actual movie poster! The fan one seems mysterious and intriguing. The movie one, she looks lost or confused.
Lost, confused, stupid. Pick one.
The blonde washes her out
They chose an actress for Elpheba who had incredibly striking African American features, so they could bludgeon us with the allegory for racism. In the movie, talking animals are beginning to be shunned from society. Dollars to donuts: They WILL change dialog to push a cringe message.
the racism against talking animals was already in the original book/musical. They didn't change anything to "push a message"
Striking African features
@@davidhwang5838
WTF? Taking what you’re saying as generously as possible, none of the major characters are animals, so your point makes no sense.
African features. She's Nigerian
@@John-fk2ky in the musical there are talking animal characters, and there's been segregation against them. One of which is Dr. Dillimond, who was in the trailer and is one of the supporting characters of the musical. Again, I am talking about the original musical the 2024 movie is based on, not the original Wizard of Oz book or the 1939 film
11:45 Isn't there enough Colombian representation in...Colombia? Why is it America's job to represent Colombian culture?
Exactly.
Because it is an American movie. And you Americans struggle with other cultures anyway with your blatant ignorance
Couldn't even get a real Colombian to play Escobar in Narcos, but definitely need it here
It's not about being America's job to represent cultures; it's about pushing that Hollywood is the place to be if you want to be successful.
she talks as if it was her idea to show her eyes, like all the photographers, decision-makers, art directors, etc., simply bowed to her all-knowing choices. had the aforementioned 'professionals' been competent at their jobs, we'd have gotten the fan edit to begin with.
It's amazing how much insight has been gleaned from one tweet responding to one fan poster. It's all spot on to, kudoos to Disparu for making this, he explains it all admirably.
Joker: Society made a man terrible because they treated him badly and he got a raw deal. Embraces being the villain. People loved it but Hollywood said "No your not supposed to like him."
Wicked: Society made a woman terrible, not because she was bad, but because society treated her wrong because- racism. Embraces being a villain. People "meh." Hollywood "Yas! Slay queen!"
CRT in a nutshell
@lovelovelovelovelove616 One is a story of someone being treated badly, not because racism, sexism or gay, but because people are apathetic, and one day they decide to punch back.
The other is musical that piggybacked off someone elses book, and made it about "Skin color" and racism. And when she fights back its because everyone is actually the evil.
Also the point I was making you missed was Hollywood loves it when its about oppressed minorities fighting back, but they don't like it when non minorities do it.
@lovelovelovelovelove616
The original book the broadways is "Loosely" based on (that I doubt you have read), the story follows that a Girl was born with green skin and looking scary. She eventually sets out in the world and then she meets glinda. They become friends eventually but Wicked decides to join an underground rebel terrorist group that wants to overthrow the wizard. She has an affair with a married guy and hides from her crimes. Eventually she even gives her daughter she had to the guys family before going into hiding again. Then most of the normal story happens but specifically, at the end, Dorthy says she is sorry and offers to give the silver slippers to her, but Wicked cannot forgive her and when she acidentally sets her skirt on fire with her lit broom, Dorthy, out of kindness puts it out by dumping water on her, accidentally killing her. The witch was not originally evil, but WAS by the end.
The broadway bastardizes both the original book and the Wizard of Oz. Wicked never did no wrong, and everything she does goes bad. However the wizard now instead of just being a guy playing to system to keep in power, is actively evil now. He takes slaves and hides the truth while using Wicked as a scapegoat because she did not join him. She and Glinda are frenemies and Glinda means well but can never help. Dorthy and all the land want to kill the witch out of hate and glinda has a dark secret. Basicly everyone is the bad guy but the witch.
In the new Movie version it has gotten even worst. The book was never about racism, the original play was not about racism. But in the movie it opens with a "Your green!" as everyone gawks at the black woman for a solid minute like its the 1840's. And the actor is making it all about racism for trying to make the poster closer to the original broadway poster.
Your so wrong it is embarrassing.
@lovelovelovelovelove616I’m sorry, but if you stopped being obssessed over both, you’ll realize how ridiculous the activism behind both are.
Expecting everyone to feel bad for a character, because
"racism" is manipulative, Oz is taking place in a world
full of fantasy, what’s the point of porting any
"first-world problems" into it?
Plenty of minorities didn’t asked to be "defended", the "defenders" popped out of nowhere, just let people having some good fantasy and enjoyment, if you want politics, contribute to it outside of fiction.
@lovelovelovelovelove616 Imagine focusing on that in a litteral piece of fiction.. Something that wasn’t created by yourself.
Sounds desesperate to me.
Gotta love Zegler talking about being represented as a Colombian in a European folk tale.
Well Colombia is a European product. Do you know history? I have met a blonde, blue eyed, pale skin Latinia from there before. All kinds of folks live in the New World.
Being Colombian isn't the problem.
Indeed, it's about the two-faced natue of her existence where her not being Cuban for West Side Story didn't matter but now it does despite it being a German Folk Tale because as Disparu says "It's about increasing my bank balance"
The sympathetic villain deconstruction trope was a fun novelty for a while but now it has certainly overstayed its welcome. I want movies to feature fun, deliciously irredeemable witches, vampires and supervillains again.
Zenescope Oz is the superior modern Oz
The thing that always got me is that in general in the present era when it comes to these things, it was almost exclusively an iconic female villain. Like there’s thanos, but he went from absolute evil to just kind of ideologically stupid, rather than than a tragic/sympathetic one. They did it with the most classically evil Disney villain that was maleficent, an attempt was made with cruella deville, and the wicked witch of the west having her evilness being set as misunderstood and the real bad guy being the wizard ever since the wicked books (of which the play is based).
Agreed.
Tho this *IS* an adaptation of a Broadway musical that contains that trope, so this is kinda a different case.
@@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020 fair argument, I just mean about movies in general
@@arthurshort6619 Oh...
for the record, I went to watch Wicked in Birmingham at the theatre and it was surprisingly amazing, the pacing was decent, the showmanship and quality was very evident when compared to other musicals I've watched, the jokes were quite funny and perfectly timed, the songs were quite catchy. Heck- I even bought the overpriced mug and pin that was at the merch stand.
I was honestly thrilled to hear that they were making a live action film on the play. But now I'm starting to feel a little skeptical about the film now that I've heard about this. The main actor having a hissy fit over a theatre accurate film poster? This whole situation is honestly laughable.
That is why for that reason, I will not spend a dime to go watch this even if it IS good. It's time to put the agenda away, which is what this is hidden behind "racist" rhetoric
It's quite stunning and brave to make an entire movie based on the fact that women are incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions.
Guys, she cHoSe to look straight down the camera 😂 As if she's in charge of marketing or something
She also referred to it as the "barrel of the camera", like she's stunning and brave staring down the barrel of a gun. What a narcissistic b*tch.
I imagine they brought her in to get her take on the promotion and the final product is what she suggested (read: demanded).
I think the marketing boss babes bent over backwards to make her stunning and brave, defiantly looking right at those evil w**** people.
YAAAS!
Or that staring at a camera requires some sort of rare skill. And she is one of the few people who has it.
@@demoulius1529 I certainly hope she does, since she’s an actress! 😂
00:15 'A real good anime'
The fact that Cynthia had more control over the movie poster in order to show her face. Makes you wonder how much of her input she had on the movie.
she could not ruin what is already trash
She claims she had control over the marketing poster. I doubt that very much. Sure there will be A listers who get a say in some marketing perhaps, but she is new to the industry, few people know who she is.
Why anyone gives actors so much power? She doesnt know first thing about marketing or film making. Her job is to act and entertain thats it.
@@justinm2697 I find it difficult to imagine that a marketing agency/department would’ve created the new poster.
@@JoeOvercoat marketing has been the first to be infiltrated, they are still doing the things but adding THE MESSAGE now so it's entirely possible they let the diverse and brave woman actress decide important aspects of her representation on the poster. See for example the bud light debacle, who was the marketing team?
This may be why there seems to be no great actresses, because she thinks her acting is in her eyes and not her face, expressions, your body.
6:14 Comparing the unedited version of the poster to the og poster there are big differences in what it says. The movie poster looks like Elphaba just did/saw something horrible and Glinda is repeating into her ear again while the og poster looks like Glinda is telling Elphie a secret and Elphaba has a wicked idea of something she’s gonna do
Ever since the 1939 MGM musical, "The Wizard of Oz", fans have speculated what Oz was like before Dorothy fell in. It's obvious that there's a relationship among the witches that the movie barely hints at, like the fascinating conversation between Glenda and Wicked when they meet in Munchkinland. "Life In Oz" is a story that should have been told during the golden age of Hollywood when talented people could render storylines that entertained. But it's a different world now and that kind of talent may be a thing of the past.
One could try reading the books by L. Frank Baum…..they pretty much tell you all of that. They were written in the early 1900’s so you may haves missed them
Yup like this guy says.
Books dude
No, mostly people who wanted to know read the books instead of speculating.
But that’s exactly WHY stories like this weren’t made during the golden age Hollywood because at that time Hollywood told good stories and had plenty of talent to write movies…. Now in the dusty age of Hollywood as I call it they just keep blowing dust off of broken records and keep going back to old IPs and being creatively bankrupt means they don’t know how to do anything now except for prequels, sequels, origins, and spin offs
@@Matthewwithers33I mean… I think it needs to be said that the stage production of Wicked SLAPS. SUPER good plot and music.
0:52 oh gosh, if this movie ends up being a villian sympathy story instead the original plot of the musical, I'm going to be supremely disappointed
I've prepared lube.
Disappointed? Yes. Surprised? No.
After the Rachel Ziegler thing, I expect it to be just that
my guy the original plot of the musical is a villain sympathy story
Have you seen the show?
When we thought you couldn't go full Rachel Z or Brie Larson
Go full Cythia witch mode
10:02 _"Someone that was relying on their TALENT to get the job, wouldn't be concerned about this picture. They bring other things to the table. They have acting ability . . . singing ability . . . they would be confident in and of themselves and would know that they could walk out of that job and into another one because they know that they can compete with other people"_
She knows she is an imposter who shouldn't be in the movie period
All have tragic backstories. The hero protects others from the pain they themselves have endured. The villain wants to inflict the same pain they have felt onto others.
Exactly.
It is why heroes are to be looked up to and for us to aspire to be like, where as villains are meant to be WARNINGS to not go down that dark path of inflicting your pain on others.
Very well said.
Yes, well said.
The actress's overreaction only confirms that Hollywood actors have lost sight of the fact that they're there to play OTHER people. They are using IP's for blatant self-promotion. She actually thinks this about only HER. True narcissism.
If you constantly play the victim you will never be anything more than that
14:21 the point so important it had to be said twice!
Supply & Demand
These stars need to understand that as an entertainer, the best thing to do for your “image” is to shut up, and keep your opinions to yourself.
She talks as if people can no longer recognise her without her face staring at you directly.
As if people could recognise her anyway, without the green paint
I had no idea who she was prior to this "controversy" (it isn't). Now, I'll be certain to avoid any future films she's in. Good job. You played yourself!
@@johnnylight0 did she expects everybody to know this woman?? Like, dude, I have zero percent have no clue who she is.
yeah, who the fck is she anyways?
"I'm a big fan of Wicked on the stage. I think I'll do an homage to the original using artwork from the film I'm excited for..."
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One tirade from the horrible excuse for a human being unhappily cast in the leading role later...
Cue the Chappelle show clip "At that moment she knew she fked up..."
The edited poster actually made me kind of want to watch the move
that's what happens when the posters are designed by actual marketing people. Back in the day they were
"starring down the barrel of the camera" We all know why she used that sentence in that way... And it's disgusting
The original book also has Elphaba's face half hidden. It has nothing to do with interchangeable stage actors. It's fundamental to the nature of the character
In the books she chose to be viewed as wicked and was innocent, and I really hate the fad of taking villains and making them heroes.
Same, that trend isn’t that great, Dreamworks did it best in The Last Wish. You’d think that Jack Horner would be good? No,
he’s a villain who clearly enjoyed that role throught the movie.
I legit need more villains like him, it’s what i can call an unique character.
modern actors not realizing that only like 10~15% of the audience cares what actors are in a movie and see it based on them, people go see movies to see either pretty flashing colors or the characters and the stories they love, not to see popular actors, a least not these days..... the time of famous actors having the ability to get people to see movies outside their interests has all but passed….
You are so right. There are zero box office draws anymore. If I like the plot, I just wait for it to go to video now. With today's rude audiences, and too high prices, I don't bother with the movies at all anymore. More often than not, I'll just skip it altogether. And of course, there's food prices nowadays. So there's that...
There are a lot of movies I think would have been better with an new actor who portrayed the character. Not a character being played by a famous person.
I’d rather go see a high school production where the kids put their heart into it over some Hollywood drivel where everyone hates me for being alive
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is one movie I finally truly enjoyed. Same actors for the iconic roles they played. No social justice messages. No DEI or die nonsense. So much fun and I laughed most of the way through. Fist movie in 2 years I've been happy to see and glad I did.
As for the ticket and snack bar prices.....ugh!!
I don't know, there are a lot of movies I watch because of the actors.
That's one nightmare fuel thumbnail. She doesn't even need makeup to pass as a witch.
she ain’t pretty, that’s for sure
that wig... is ... awful...
Yeah kinda works.. as in, witch that turned herself into a frog
Hope she gets sued to hell and back by the studio for ruining the movie's word of mouth with her selfimportant nonsense.
The only sure-fire conclusion to that look on her face we can come to reveals an expression that only says "I'm always surly".
Finally great casting! Incredible they found a real Wicked Witch.
I think I need to start calling twitterites "flying monkeys"
the power of manyyyyyyyy
Nah, that's Kamala Harris
@@littleluxia 😂
She had an over-the-top reaction because she comes from a group of people who define themselves by feeling oppressed.
The more oppressed, the more heroic.
So she's a wicked witch after all.
“Begone! Or someone else may drop a house on you!”
The reason she wants them to show as much of the actress' faces as possible is so she can elevate their own brand.